so there's a secondary issue here that I ran into while working for a board game company as a playtester which is that licensing for different types of products can be a different license - one of the games I playtested, for example, has a card set based on the Guilty Gear fighting game, but our company could never make an online client that included those cards, because that would be considered a digital or video game adaptation of Guilty Gear - and unsurprisingly, the company that makes Guilty Gear video games charges a lot more for licensing to make Guilty Gear video games, assuming they would at all! Even things like that Dogmeat avatar probably involved a specific clause in a specific contract somewhere rather than being a thing they can Just Do. IP law is baffling.
It's probably why all the Fallout stuff in the store right now cost money instead of gems too. I know wizards loves money but if they released fallout packs that could only be obtained by paying money and could not be crafted there would probably be heck to pay from Arena players.
Came here to say this. Worked for Mattel for a few years. Licensing will consider a board game or card game to be entirely different than a video game, and they require different licenses and likely the video game one is a lot more expensive. Also someone else may have an exclusive right to the rights to use the stuff in a video game. So.... I mean,.if it were me I'd just not pay for a license that didn't let me put it on Arena... But I guess WotC had other ideas.
I think the defense of the resource allocation is torpedoed by the continual release of alchemy sets. Wizards can release those in addition to the regular sets on Arena, so they can definitely add Universes Beyond cards from a workload perspective.
I dislike alchemy as much as the next guy, but I don't think alchemy takes nearly as many resources as a commander precon would. From what I've seen the alchemy cards only use a handful of mechanics, they're mostly just variants of seek and conjure that were introduced in the first alchemy set. Whereas commander decks tend to have tons of new and old mechanics, the fallout decks alone have rad counters, energy, junk, monstrosity, squad, there's even a fortify card in there.
Fair but also , i wanted to draft fallout , i dont live in an area that has LGS let alone local LGS and the closest one in 3 hours only plays commander anyhow. So for me a limited and constructed player that plays modo and arena i basically dont get to play with fallout cards even though Fallout was the universes beyond i most looked forward to.
It’s also gonna create a psudo reserve list situation. If stuff like Lembas, Lorien Revealed, Orcish Bowmasters, one ring and the other format changing staples never get a reprint, you’ve all of a sudden made it prohibitively expensive for most people to play the game in 5-10 years
Mind goblin these nuts. Seriously though it's an unfinity sticker card called _______ goblin that sees play in legacy. People also call it name sticker goblin or blank goblin.
Mark rosewater said that was going to happen when the walking dead cards first came out. But then he recently said that “there doesn’t seem to be much people who actually want that” so they basically scrapped that
Because it's really hard to justify an in universe version of the really niche ones like stuff dealing with rad counters but most of them could absolutely have in universe treatments
You don't have to apologize for liking the game of Magic, even its weird parts. I'm a contrarian who enjoys the bad sets of Magic, who chose Aftermath over Lord of the Rings for my birthday present (I'm a standard player, so that makes a difference). Even though I'm concerned Universes Beyond will ultimately destabilize the game in the same way it did for other games people have forgotten like Mage Knight and HeroClix, I'll play with the cards if they end up being fun. I may even be drawn to sets I know nothing about like Assassin's Creed if the product fails horribly and becomes cheap as dirt.
You know what would fix all this stuff? Doing in universe versions of the cards. It would also make it so you could actually reprint cards from the UB sets without contract IP hell, solving the psudo reserve list situation as well.
Two things keep me away from non-paper mtg. First, the difference between the two have become a canyon. There are mechanics, cards, game systems, ect that only work in one version but not in the other. Second, I can barely justify buying magic cards as is. I can't see myself spending money on digital cards.
I went Easter shopping yesterday for my 7 year old. I bought him two outfits. It came to about 35-40$ I scanned a Ceaser precon I found on the shelf no label on it and no price indicated on the shelf. It rang up to $65 I was flabbergasted. Told myself I’m not buying anything magic for awhile after that.
@@devinloew7681True. Just pointing out that it's a (potentially) inexpensive way to scratch that itch, especially if you can't (or won't) just run down to the LGS to get a game or two in.
the problem with Fallout at least is that it is still considered a videogame... so you can see how delicate and complex a contract that allowed them to use the IP in that format without opening the door for other things.
Two things: weird contracts as you laid out (only all at once, for whatever reason they did that), organization - they can release a ton of remastered sets, alchemy etc so I guess it comes down to priorities.
I live both Doctor Who and Fallout. I'd love to play with the UB cards. I no longer have a playgroup. WotC killed that with their increasing prices/declining quality. I also haven't purchased paper maguc in several years. I've never been in the habit of sticking with something that shows it doesn't care about me at all.
Sorry to hear. Have you tried finding a new playgroup at a LGS? I'd hate for you to miss out on the tabletop experience if you are genuinely still wanting that for yourself
Most of these wouldn’t even be difficult to make a universes within version. It’s not like Pre-War formalwear is copyrighted, just release it with artwork of Edgar Markov in a fancy suit and boom. The only slightly annoying ones would be ones with copyrighted UB types where you would have to make new within types that were analogous
That's why I was so against the types ever since we saw "astartes warrior". There is no reason we couldn't use existing knights, robots, warriors, mutants and zombies instead of UB types Imagine if necrons were just artifact skeletons. If tyranids were superfluous with Simic. If astartes were knights.
I think WotC needs to go back to the negotiating table and make digital only contracts. Players have to spend real cash to get this specific anthology. This system should be attractive enough for Singleton players as well as if you need 4 copies. Unlike other anthologies, these will remain in the store for sale.
WOTC are hilariously incompetent if the contracts are the real reason this stuff hasn't made it on - or, even more worringly, they've had to let the license holders screw them over because said license holders know Hasbro is bleeding money and will give them whatever concession they ask for if it will inject even a little more money.
I'd guess the problem is with unlimited revenue potential. Should've put an Arena/MTGO redemption code into the decks and disabled wildcard redeeming for those cards, that way they are bounded by the print run, which seems to be infinite anyway. And Arena redemption codes already have a healthy secondary market (at least on cardmarket)
There's no reason that they can't do digital Universes Within for popular or interesting cards. It's a way to put the cards in without the messy contract stuff. They can do it as is or curate them, especially for Arena so it'll fit powerwise as needed. Straight into the client for wildcards or combine some of the older sets to make a booster for it. Could even make it draftable too.
Kind of taking from a point you made in the video about Commander in some form coming to Arena and whether or not we would even want it, if that becomes the only way to get the universes beyond commander decks on the client then it would be worth it to me just for that alone, regardless of how scuffed the play experience might end up being
I feel like the UB sets should be released as UW sets that have UB treatments randomly in the set’ play boosters, UB collector packs and UB collector decks.
I think digital play is less important than physical. Real social interaction, physical cards and deck building, maybe not having the best cards so having to improvise, etc. all make mtg great. If there’s no lgs by you then try to find a facebook group or friends to make your own play group. I truly think there are more than enough cards already, we dont need the mass universe beyond nor every card in existence in digital. Its a card game, not a video game after all.
I have been saying for years MTGO should sell the commander precons and been told every time "but resources" but I've been told that for over ten years of commander growing and being a bigger and bigger things. Hear me out: allocate resources wow
I'd imagine this is actually a licensing issue either related to media (card game vs. "video game"), or instances/impressions. Ignoring the first issue, if the license for a particular property was paid per instance of IP use, they could account for it in terms of the actual number of cards printed and distributed. It's a one-time run, they made X cards, the total license is Y. If those same IP uses go online, there's suddenly an unknown number of instances, and the IP owner is always going to ask for the high side to be accounted for. It's the same reason TV bits (musical performances, SNL sketches, etc.) with prerecorded licensed music often don't appear online in an official capacity; it's easy to calculate royalties for the original transmission, but to post online the rights holder wants royalties for all possible future impressions.
This reminds me of that time when I saw the 40k sleeves on the MTGA shop and was hyped cause I thought they might bring the cards to the client. Still haven't emotionally recovered from that. Side note, a client for MTG commander would go crazy. Imagine having access to playing commander across the planet with an easy client and cheaper cards.
I do think there's a good chance for the contracts going forward to allow for digital clients (as in, not necessarily all the UB releases going forward, but contracts made going forward). Part of the issues with WH and FO UB was likely that when the contracts were made, there wasn't enough established in MTG of successful UB for the companies to easily agree to digital contracts, and on the other hand, hasbro probably similarly didnt want to overpay for digital without any idea of how it would shake out. Now with a big push for UB as a mainstay for Magic, I think there'll be less muss and fuss about it. It just might mean we have a few of the sets in this weird place of licensing issues that don't get as easily ported. Hopefully they'll come back and resolve these, but they very well may not.
The problem is, at some point WotC will lose the rights to use the UB IPs. It's not a big deal to remove things like dogmeat pets, or land skins, but losing functional cards from your decks would really suck. The same goes for paper magic. Don't expect UB specific cards to be re-printable in the future. In a way, I almost like this, because it practically guarantees card values won't be destroyed by future reprints.
I'd say don't apologize for liking what you like. Sometimes, the theme might be dumb? They've done that with while "real" sets, before, and this is one of the reasons I scoff when various people complain "we're getting too much product Wizards; slow it down." I remember when we could only get a set a year, or so, and if that set had been Strixhaven, or maybe even Capenna...that could have been a wastes year. It does seem a little odd that they won't port these over to digital. I AM one of those people who doesn't care for digital; I also want to play Magic, but DONT want to pay for old, expensive cards twice, especially when the digital cards aren't worth anything the same way, but that's neither here nor there, and I welcome anyone else to enjoy it. It just seems like, if they wanted, they could add an additional "slot" on the online loot box machine, and make it only dole out UnBy cards, or under that banner a crate that only contains Doctor Who, or 40k, themed stuff. SWTOR did it just fine, with stuff themed to various areas, of grabs, so it's odd Wizards can't? And sure, it might be the IP holders. I like 40k a lot, and yet u still acknowledge that GW can be draconian, or daft, in how they handle things, so maybe I'll just blame them, and BBC, but its too bad.
Making sure I'm not insane but aren't the Warhammer decks on arena now? I think ive seen them in the shop and cards like pox walker has been seeing more play
Honestly the problem with the epilogue style boosters is they don't price it cheaper. Like I don't want to pay $140 for 168 cards when normally for $140 I could get 504 cards. But if it was like $50 bucks maybe.
I havent even started the video, but I know its licensing. Games Ive played have lost rights to property and then people lose access to content they paid for (DbD, Friday the 13th, etc). When they print the cards, they can just stop when licenses expire. Having to remove content from digital games really pisses people off
I wish the universes beyond cards were printed in draftable sets. They often have quite strong set themes and mechanics that would be fun to draft around. And since I don't play commander these cards are largely passing me by.
2022. We want codes for digital cards in paper products. 2024. Can you at least implement the cards in digital clients? Seems like we took a step back.
Real synergy and cohesion would exist if WotC wouldn't demand of us to spend a fortune on paper cards and on the digital product. That is the real issue here I would think, I assume less people would be opposed to MTG:A if they wouldn't have to spend all the money they already paid for their cards one more time. I know personally I'd play a lot more online if I would get the same amount of cards (wouldn't even have to be the same cards) I already spent a lot of money on there. Just like other TCGs do.
Legacy - the best format. Don’t get me wrong, I am GLAD other formats exist, as it allows different cards to shine, different interactions to prove their worth. But Legacy is just so COOL. It shows what power creep does to a game.
Sadly I don't see much changing until Cocks leaves unfortunately. It's in Hasbro's best interest to pull players towards Arena and away from MTGO, so I'm sure this is a "sorry not sorry" situation. I wish they would have just overhauled MTGO instead of creating Arena, but then there wouldn't be a possibility to remove the secondary market and make everybody re-buy their collections.
Each to their own I suppose the Assassin’s creed I have already brought the starter and booster box, yet bit disappointed on how they done Altair yet can be playable.
Oh no is the Fortnitification of MTG and the seeking of profit over player/game sanctity coming around and making things worse? How terrible, if only this could have been forseen
Cockatrice is way too complicated to use, I get that's because MTG is complicated but it's not beginner friendly all. If you can tolerate glitching a lot, XMage is way better.
I uninstalled arena after learning fallout wouldnt be on there. I dont have any lgs in my rural area. Thats how i play. But im just beyond dissapointed that my favorite video game franchise ever whose cards i actually loved is unplayable with my method of play.
honestly i dont get dr who not on arena the most. warhammer is per se an "Offline" activity where it might be that warhammer fans also would prefer play it in paper but doctor who? come on alot doctor who fans (me included) dont leave their houses or see other people ever xD so having this on arena i think would sell like craaaazy
Corsair stuff is fine for the most part. Avoid their plastic band headphones though. Mine fell apart way too quick for what I paid. Invest in something with a metal band for any headset.
I guarantee it is a license thing... WOTC of late have been a mix of greedy and stupid. Look at the home run that was waiting for them with 30th anniversary that they turned into a flaming dumpster fire. It would not surprise me in the least that the people negotiating the licenses to print cards either did not know that online was a thing for Magic (THEIR CEO HAD TO USE WIKIPAEDIA TO DESCRIBE THE GAME) or were planning on online and did not realize that publishing did not include the online version because... stupid.
I flatly hate Universes Beyond, especially when the cards are actually relevant for eternal formats. It makes MtG start to feel like Yu-Gi-Oh, where there is no attempt to create lore, it's just kinda "whatever" to justify all the text.
Oh, the tragedy! We cannot have a piece of shit product placement that pollutes MTG's identity on an already shitty client that needs no additional help to be awful! We have to settle for merely a mostly bad program instead of a completely bad one...
If only they literally didn't start this avalanche of shit with universes beyond to start with. Cool, you like 40k Vince. You could like, go play thay game though?
so there's a secondary issue here that I ran into while working for a board game company as a playtester which is that licensing for different types of products can be a different license - one of the games I playtested, for example, has a card set based on the Guilty Gear fighting game, but our company could never make an online client that included those cards, because that would be considered a digital or video game adaptation of Guilty Gear - and unsurprisingly, the company that makes Guilty Gear video games charges a lot more for licensing to make Guilty Gear video games, assuming they would at all! Even things like that Dogmeat avatar probably involved a specific clause in a specific contract somewhere rather than being a thing they can Just Do. IP law is baffling.
It's probably why all the Fallout stuff in the store right now cost money instead of gems too. I know wizards loves money but if they released fallout packs that could only be obtained by paying money and could not be crafted there would probably be heck to pay from Arena players.
Came here to say this. Worked for Mattel for a few years. Licensing will consider a board game or card game to be entirely different than a video game, and they require different licenses and likely the video game one is a lot more expensive. Also someone else may have an exclusive right to the rights to use the stuff in a video game. So.... I mean,.if it were me I'd just not pay for a license that didn't let me put it on Arena... But I guess WotC had other ideas.
Level 99 is that you?
I think the defense of the resource allocation is torpedoed by the continual release of alchemy sets. Wizards can release those in addition to the regular sets on Arena, so they can definitely add Universes Beyond cards from a workload perspective.
Imagine a world where instead of alchemy bs and endless overpriced cosmetics we got UB and old sets coded in
I think the enforcement to engage with competitive play on arena is the only reason that alchemy is profitable for them
It's also torpedoed by the wealth of the corporation that is producing it. They are actively choosing to do the bare minimum.
I dislike alchemy as much as the next guy, but I don't think alchemy takes nearly as many resources as a commander precon would. From what I've seen the alchemy cards only use a handful of mechanics, they're mostly just variants of seek and conjure that were introduced in the first alchemy set. Whereas commander decks tend to have tons of new and old mechanics, the fallout decks alone have rad counters, energy, junk, monstrosity, squad, there's even a fortify card in there.
Yeah. 30 cards made from leftover development scraps shouldn’t take _nearly_ as much resources as an entire set.
If only they could make in universe versions of these cards to use...
Fair but also , i wanted to draft fallout , i dont live in an area that has LGS let alone local LGS and the closest one in 3 hours only plays commander anyhow. So for me a limited and constructed player that plays modo and arena i basically dont get to play with fallout cards even though Fallout was the universes beyond i most looked forward to.
didn't they do that for the godzilla cards, and everyone still hated on it 💀
@@thade7062but Fallout isn't a draftable set?
It’s also gonna create a psudo reserve list situation. If stuff like Lembas, Lorien Revealed, Orcish Bowmasters, one ring and the other format changing staples never get a reprint, you’ve all of a sudden made it prohibitively expensive for most people to play the game in 5-10 years
Fuck that, I wanna play fallout on arena, give me my goddamn pip boy
Mind Goblin? What's Mind goblin Vince?
namesticker goblin or blank goblin
Mind goblin these nuts.
Seriously though it's an unfinity sticker card called _______ goblin that sees play in legacy. People also call it name sticker goblin or blank goblin.
Ligma balls, lmao!
mind goblin deez nuts
Joe MAMA
As everyone else has already said - UNIVERSES WITHIN
So in short, they fucked up where they could, and where they couldn't, we have to pay double
Why not just make Universes within versions of certain cards?
Mark rosewater said that was going to happen when the walking dead cards first came out.
But then he recently said that “there doesn’t seem to be much people who actually want that” so they basically scrapped that
Which is absolutely fucking absurd.
@@mistercleff8819translation: "we couldn't convince hasbro execs that it's worth printing cardboard no one can FOMO over"
Because it's really hard to justify an in universe version of the really niche ones like stuff dealing with rad counters but most of them could absolutely have in universe treatments
Because why would they? I hate to say it but it doesn't seem like a priority for them.
FINALLY someone is addressing the Mind Goblin controversy!
You don't have to apologize for liking the game of Magic, even its weird parts. I'm a contrarian who enjoys the bad sets of Magic, who chose Aftermath over Lord of the Rings for my birthday present (I'm a standard player, so that makes a difference). Even though I'm concerned Universes Beyond will ultimately destabilize the game in the same way it did for other games people have forgotten like Mage Knight and HeroClix, I'll play with the cards if they end up being fun. I may even be drawn to sets I know nothing about like Assassin's Creed if the product fails horribly and becomes cheap as dirt.
You know what would fix all this stuff? Doing in universe versions of the cards. It would also make it so you could actually reprint cards from the UB sets without contract IP hell, solving the psudo reserve list situation as well.
Two things keep me away from non-paper mtg. First, the difference between the two have become a canyon. There are mechanics, cards, game systems, ect that only work in one version but not in the other. Second, I can barely justify buying magic cards as is. I can't see myself spending money on digital cards.
You don't have to and there's only a handful of cards that aren't on paper in comparison to the vast majority
At least for MTGA, you don't have to spend real money to get cards. You can earn packs and gold just from playing.
@@seanheath4492 There's pros and cons to both. Once you own a physical card, you own that card.
I went Easter shopping yesterday for my 7 year old. I bought him two outfits. It came to about 35-40$ I scanned a Ceaser precon I found on the shelf no label on it and no price indicated on the shelf. It rang up to $65 I was flabbergasted. Told myself I’m not buying anything magic for awhile after that.
@@devinloew7681True. Just pointing out that it's a (potentially) inexpensive way to scratch that itch, especially if you can't (or won't) just run down to the LGS to get a game or two in.
the problem with Fallout at least is that it is still considered a videogame... so you can see how delicate and complex a contract that allowed them to use the IP in that format without opening the door for other things.
Two things: weird contracts as you laid out (only all at once, for whatever reason they did that), organization - they can release a ton of remastered sets, alchemy etc so I guess it comes down to priorities.
I live both Doctor Who and Fallout. I'd love to play with the UB cards. I no longer have a playgroup. WotC killed that with their increasing prices/declining quality. I also haven't purchased paper maguc in several years. I've never been in the habit of sticking with something that shows it doesn't care about me at all.
Sorry to hear. Have you tried finding a new playgroup at a LGS? I'd hate for you to miss out on the tabletop experience if you are genuinely still wanting that for yourself
I wanted Xira, the Golden Sting to give Brawl a shot on MtG Arena, but they don't let you get any of the Legends Retold cards. Thanks WotC.
Most of these wouldn’t even be difficult to make a universes within version. It’s not like Pre-War formalwear is copyrighted, just release it with artwork of Edgar Markov in a fancy suit and boom. The only slightly annoying ones would be ones with copyrighted UB types where you would have to make new within types that were analogous
That's why I was so against the types ever since we saw "astartes warrior". There is no reason we couldn't use existing knights, robots, warriors, mutants and zombies instead of UB types
Imagine if necrons were just artifact skeletons. If tyranids were superfluous with Simic. If astartes were knights.
@@yargolocus4853 yes that’s why I’m glad at least they let the halflings be halflings in LotR rather than creating a “Hobbit” creature type
I think WotC needs to go back to the negotiating table and make digital only contracts. Players have to spend real cash to get this specific anthology. This system should be attractive enough for Singleton players as well as if you need 4 copies. Unlike other anthologies, these will remain in the store for sale.
WOTC are hilariously incompetent if the contracts are the real reason this stuff hasn't made it on - or, even more worringly, they've had to let the license holders screw them over because said license holders know Hasbro is bleeding money and will give them whatever concession they ask for if it will inject even a little more money.
At least those platforms won't have in game advertisements for upcoming Amazon TV shows
I'd guess the problem is with unlimited revenue potential. Should've put an Arena/MTGO redemption code into the decks and disabled wildcard redeeming for those cards, that way they are bounded by the print run, which seems to be infinite anyway. And Arena redemption codes already have a healthy secondary market (at least on cardmarket)
There's no reason that they can't do digital Universes Within for popular or interesting cards. It's a way to put the cards in without the messy contract stuff. They can do it as is or curate them, especially for Arena so it'll fit powerwise as needed. Straight into the client for wildcards or combine some of the older sets to make a booster for it. Could even make it draftable too.
Kind of taking from a point you made in the video about Commander in some form coming to Arena and whether or not we would even want it, if that becomes the only way to get the universes beyond commander decks on the client then it would be worth it to me just for that alone, regardless of how scuffed the play experience might end up being
I feel like the UB sets should be released as UW sets that have UB treatments randomly in the set’ play boosters, UB collector packs and UB collector decks.
I think digital play is less important than physical. Real social interaction, physical cards and deck building, maybe not having the best cards so having to improvise, etc. all make mtg great. If there’s no lgs by you then try to find a facebook group or friends to make your own play group.
I truly think there are more than enough cards already, we dont need the mass universe beyond nor every card in existence in digital. Its a card game, not a video game after all.
Lotr is universes beyond it's on both?
What’s the advantage of mtgo vs spellbook? If your a paper player?
I have been saying for years MTGO should sell the commander precons and been told every time "but resources" but I've been told that for over ten years of commander growing and being a bigger and bigger things.
Hear me out: allocate resources wow
I'd imagine this is actually a licensing issue either related to media (card game vs. "video game"), or instances/impressions. Ignoring the first issue, if the license for a particular property was paid per instance of IP use, they could account for it in terms of the actual number of cards printed and distributed. It's a one-time run, they made X cards, the total license is Y. If those same IP uses go online, there's suddenly an unknown number of instances, and the IP owner is always going to ask for the high side to be accounted for. It's the same reason TV bits (musical performances, SNL sketches, etc.) with prerecorded licensed music often don't appear online in an official capacity; it's easy to calculate royalties for the original transmission, but to post online the rights holder wants royalties for all possible future impressions.
wait the 3rd party running MTGO figured out the Licensing issues; but HASBRO (wotc) couldn't? did they fire their legal department???
This reminds me of that time when I saw the 40k sleeves on the MTGA shop and was hyped cause I thought they might bring the cards to the client. Still haven't emotionally recovered from that. Side note, a client for MTG commander would go crazy. Imagine having access to playing commander across the planet with an easy client and cheaper cards.
I do think there's a good chance for the contracts going forward to allow for digital clients (as in, not necessarily all the UB releases going forward, but contracts made going forward). Part of the issues with WH and FO UB was likely that when the contracts were made, there wasn't enough established in MTG of successful UB for the companies to easily agree to digital contracts, and on the other hand, hasbro probably similarly didnt want to overpay for digital without any idea of how it would shake out.
Now with a big push for UB as a mainstay for Magic, I think there'll be less muss and fuss about it. It just might mean we have a few of the sets in this weird place of licensing issues that don't get as easily ported. Hopefully they'll come back and resolve these, but they very well may not.
The problem is, at some point WotC will lose the rights to use the UB IPs. It's not a big deal to remove things like dogmeat pets, or land skins, but losing functional cards from your decks would really suck. The same goes for paper magic. Don't expect UB specific cards to be re-printable in the future. In a way, I almost like this, because it practically guarantees card values won't be destroyed by future reprints.
I'd say don't apologize for liking what you like. Sometimes, the theme might be dumb? They've done that with while "real" sets, before, and this is one of the reasons I scoff when various people complain "we're getting too much product Wizards; slow it down." I remember when we could only get a set a year, or so, and if that set had been Strixhaven, or maybe even Capenna...that could have been a wastes year.
It does seem a little odd that they won't port these over to digital. I AM one of those people who doesn't care for digital; I also want to play Magic, but DONT want to pay for old, expensive cards twice, especially when the digital cards aren't worth anything the same way, but that's neither here nor there, and I welcome anyone else to enjoy it. It just seems like, if they wanted, they could add an additional "slot" on the online loot box machine, and make it only dole out UnBy cards, or under that banner a crate that only contains Doctor Who, or 40k, themed stuff. SWTOR did it just fine, with stuff themed to various areas, of grabs, so it's odd Wizards can't? And sure, it might be the IP holders. I like 40k a lot, and yet u still acknowledge that GW can be draconian, or daft, in how they handle things, so maybe I'll just blame them, and BBC, but its too bad.
Making sure I'm not insane but aren't the Warhammer decks on arena now? I think ive seen them in the shop and cards like pox walker has been seeing more play
Nope. They are JUST onto MTGO. Dropped last week.
You mean Dog Walker?
🟦➕❤❤ I want Doctor Who on Arena so much, at least cosmetics 😔
Honestly the problem with the epilogue style boosters is they don't price it cheaper. Like I don't want to pay $140 for 168 cards when normally for $140 I could get 504 cards. But if it was like $50 bucks maybe.
I havent even started the video, but I know its licensing. Games Ive played have lost rights to property and then people lose access to content they paid for (DbD, Friday the 13th, etc). When they print the cards, they can just stop when licenses expire. Having to remove content from digital games really pisses people off
I wish the universes beyond cards were printed in draftable sets. They often have quite strong set themes and mechanics that would be fun to draft around. And since I don't play commander these cards are largely passing me by.
Universes Within dropping at the same time would be a pretty good way to get around these licensing issues.
2022. We want codes for digital cards in paper products. 2024. Can you at least implement the cards in digital clients? Seems like we took a step back.
Real synergy and cohesion would exist if WotC wouldn't demand of us to spend a fortune on paper cards and on the digital product. That is the real issue here I would think, I assume less people would be opposed to MTG:A if they wouldn't have to spend all the money they already paid for their cards one more time. I know personally I'd play a lot more online if I would get the same amount of cards (wouldn't even have to be the same cards) I already spent a lot of money on there. Just like other TCGs do.
They almost get me that dogmeat companion but i was also supremely irritated to not get the cards to use
Legacy - the best format. Don’t get me wrong, I am GLAD other formats exist, as it allows different cards to shine, different interactions to prove their worth. But Legacy is just so COOL. It shows what power creep does to a game.
I too would rather play paper Magic, but digital clients allow me to play much more regularly than I would be able to if I was only playing in paper.
Hmm, almost as if the people in charge of the deal thought that it wouldn't sell lol
Sadly I don't see much changing until Cocks leaves unfortunately. It's in Hasbro's best interest to pull players towards Arena and away from MTGO, so I'm sure this is a "sorry not sorry" situation. I wish they would have just overhauled MTGO instead of creating Arena, but then there wouldn't be a possibility to remove the secondary market and make everybody re-buy their collections.
Each to their own I suppose the Assassin’s creed I have already brought the starter and booster box, yet bit disappointed on how they done Altair yet can be playable.
Nothing worse than getting an awesome deck idea and then finding out you can't play certain cards on MTGO
Yes, MTGO is supposed to have every card. It was doing very well, especially with the reprint of the power 9.
Oh no is the Fortnitification of MTG and the seeking of profit over player/game sanctity coming around and making things worse? How terrible, if only this could have been forseen
But its not though is it.
It's really avoidable and isn't even remotely near the stupid issues people keep crying about.
I hate myself for loving UB stuff. Fallout and LotR are just amazing. I don’t want to love it but I do lol.
Untap and Cockatrice go brrr
This is actually a good thing. Let me keep my immersion 😅
Never got into digital magic. I play Hearthstone. I got weekly proxy legacy a few blocks away.
and yet, lotr arrived on both clients without any issue...
I like universes beyond, but as an alchemy player, if they're all gonna be ridiculously overpowered as LOTR was, I'd rather they keep that shit away.
Yeah this is why free software like Coctarice is becoming a more popular way to play online.
Cockatrice is way too complicated to use, I get that's because MTG is complicated but it's not beginner friendly all. If you can tolerate glitching a lot, XMage is way better.
They need to revisit godzilla and give us actual godzilla cards, not just skins
Honestly, I wish Universes beyond would ONLY be available online. Tho.... that's probably due to a different reason
I uninstalled arena after learning fallout wouldnt be on there. I dont have any lgs in my rural area. Thats how i play. But im just beyond dissapointed that my favorite video game franchise ever whose cards i actually loved is unplayable with my method of play.
honestly i dont get dr who not on arena the most.
warhammer is per se an "Offline" activity where it might be that warhammer fans also would prefer play it in paper but doctor who?
come on alot doctor who fans (me included) dont leave their houses or see other people ever xD
so having this on arena i think would sell like craaaazy
Ah, legacy.
The best format.
Eventually physical magic and paper magic will be one again. Maybe...
MTGO is more likely to get these cards since that's where commander is played.
THIS.. please. WOTC bring em. I see thoe fancy pantsy cards in paper and im like. Oohh I cant wait to build that on arena. NOPE
I hate those gaming lights. Its like need for speed for pcs
Final Fantasy and Marvel should hit arena like LOTR because they are replacing universes-within sets.
Arena is STD legal, so this should not be an issue. MTGO is the client for non-STD play, like commander.
Ugh... I feel the hate well up in me, each time I hear about UB. 🤮
Means you probably need to chill.
Arena stil hase bugs that are there like 10 years ago.
i feel like i m being yelled at all the time
How great are Corsair products? Man, I miss having a PC.
Mostly overpriced tbh
@@vroomzoom4206 I've always gotten more than my monies worth. Milage may vary.
Proprietary AF that's how they are.
@Torsav I mean, I guess. You still paying more for the name lol.
Corsair stuff is fine for the most part. Avoid their plastic band headphones though. Mine fell apart way too quick for what I paid. Invest in something with a metal band for any headset.
The entire LotR set on Arena: did you forget we errata'd Bowmaster and the Ring already?
Not errata, rebalancing. They still exist in their original states in Timeless or Direct Challenge, just not Historic or Alchemy
@@XenobladeXSupremacy So they've been errata'd in those formats
I guarantee it is a license thing... WOTC of late have been a mix of greedy and stupid. Look at the home run that was waiting for them with 30th anniversary that they turned into a flaming dumpster fire. It would not surprise me in the least that the people negotiating the licenses to print cards either did not know that online was a thing for Magic (THEIR CEO HAD TO USE WIKIPAEDIA TO DESCRIBE THE GAME) or were planning on online and did not realize that publishing did not include the online version because... stupid.
I'm still convinced these universe beyond sets are a horrible mistake.
I flatly hate Universes Beyond, especially when the cards are actually relevant for eternal formats. It makes MtG start to feel like Yu-Gi-Oh, where there is no attempt to create lore, it's just kinda "whatever" to justify all the text.
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I agree with vince.
Idc. I just want to play brawl without alchemy. Alchemy is shite
I only play MTGO.
I absolutely hate universes beyond
i forgot why i unsubbed and then i watched this vid and yeah
Thanks for the view and comment. I hope one day you enjoy what I make again, but for now I'll settle for the hate watch.
Sigh...technology
Down with Digital MTG.
Why?
Middle aged man complains about traveling an hour to make content for thousands of pounds a month NEEEEEXT
Mtgo is cool arena is trash
another day, another complaining video from this dude.
Oh, the tragedy! We cannot have a piece of shit product placement that pollutes MTG's identity on an already shitty client that needs no additional help to be awful! We have to settle for merely a mostly bad program instead of a completely bad one...
You sound like such a downer.
MTG has devolved into garbage. Its not worth your time, money, or effort.
lol
vince has become a wotc corporate shill, ugh
god i miss the Captain format, at least those people were willing to fight back
What, in the loving fuck, are you talking about?
@@PleasantKenobi what do you stand for, man
this has to be satire
@@davidhower7095 how so?
UB has been and will continue to be a disaster for Vorthos folks that actually give a crap about the game's lore.
I meant mostly the bit about Captain. Nobody in their right mind thought Captain was ever going to work
If only they literally didn't start this avalanche of shit with universes beyond to start with. Cool, you like 40k Vince. You could like, go play thay game though?
Nah. Too busy playing Magic with these cool UB cards whilst yall are crying.
@@PleasantKenobi I can't even talk any more shit i bought all the fallout decks. Lmao.