This feels similar to Duskmourne, where the creative team actally did a great job with most of the worldbuilding, but there is always this undercurrent of shallow, focus tested corporate grime over the whole thing. That said, I am excited we get to see some more of Muraganda. It has lost a lot of it's identity I think since Dinosaurs are just a big part of magic now in general even apart from Ixalan. I think there could have still been some potential in showing very early socities living there. While I'm not too hot on the racing theme, I do like the idea of a "compilation set" like this where we visit multiple planes that mabye we wouldn't get to see otherwise. A plane like Xerex for example is really cool but probably wouldn't work too well for a standalone set. They might as well have put in a team of goofy cavepeople with Flintstone cars to match Muraganda, but maybe that was deemed to goofy.
I actually think Valgavoth allowing people to get out in exchange for a spark makes a lot of sense. He really wants to expand out of Duskmourn and the spark would give him that. Him letting people out and even sparing their lives is not unprecedented either, with the whole cult of Valgavoth and his deal with Winter. I actually want to see what he could do with a Planeswalker spark and how it interacts with his curse.
I've really disliked the implementation of Omenpaths so far, so I'm glad you mentioned that it's cool to see them used as to make this set take place on multiple planes. I feel like it's a good way to showcase them, better than Thunder Junction in my opinion.
So far Omenpaths only seem to make planes feel less internally integral with people from different planes showing up on other planes. Takes away some form of identity
Seems like an awfully high number of teams to be able to get a significant amount of lore and support cards for each team/color pairing. Remember when Ravnica had to split into multiple sets, just to cover each Guild!
Well, "helping Avishkar grow as a multiversal, interdimensional power" as a reason to host a Grand Prix sure tracks with the sorts of reasons F1 gives for going to real up-and-coming tourist destinations like Azerbaijan, Qatar, Bahrain, Jeddah, and Sochi (that just happen to be willing to pay F1 a small fortune for the privilege of hosting Grands Prix). So that's at least sort of faithful to real life.
If we are getting this silly in MTG, I wish the Universes Beyond for this set was Fast and Furious so you can give flying to Vin Diesel, to attack "in the air" so the spanish meme "EN EL AIRE" is canon in MTG. EDIT: So my Opponent can respond with "¿¡QUE!?"
The worst part for me currently is why would this interplanar organization allow the Valgolavoth team to officially enter. Seems like letting a plane consuming super-demon have a legitimate chance to win a Planeswalker spark might be a bad idea.
@PleasantKenobi That's the angle I hope they go; the formatting of the guide article makes it seem like they are "official", but maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
7:43 I think from a farther standpoint this may be Valgavoth trying to get his own spark, possibly trying to use a spark to expand his plane out into other planes? Possibly.
Minor nitpick: the reformed Consulate post-Aether Revolt was still unpopular because it didn't do enough to loosen restrictions on Aether - and were completely unprepared for the Phyrexian invasion. The current Assembly that changed the name of the plane and is trying to become a multiplanar center of culture is the result of *another* revolution. The New Culture Collective used underground street racing as a flashy recruitment tactic to entice people to join their resistance to the Consulate, which left them uniquely prepared to serve as recon scouts and search-and-rescue during the invasion. With help from some Renegades from the first revolution, they rode their wave of popularity into a new, more democratic government.
Personally I’m disappointed with Aetherdrift because I care a lot about flavor and I like being able to take my fantasy settings seriously. Bloomburrow was super, super cool to me. Duskmourn, Outlaws, and Karlov were disappointing for the obvious costume reasons. I haven’t been playing for *that* long but after experiencing Bloomburrow, I’m sad knowing there won’t be anything like it. Maybe the Tarkir one will be cool.
This set very much feels like a return to the very mid to poor sets of late such as murders and outlaws and I don’t hold out much hope that it’ll be as fun as DM or as well designed as BB
Murders I can agree, was poor. But Outlaws, aside from a weak theme, was a fun set imo. It had a lot of good and fun cards that slot well into existing decks. Murders on the other hand had both a massive flavour fail, and very forgettable cards. The surveil lands were nice but nothing about the set interests me in the slightest.
@@boringmonkey6958I agree re the cards in outlaws, some good stuff in there. My worry is that even if there are decent cards in the set the new set will share the same weaknesses in terms of theme
Honestly, goofy, high-concept fantasy camp is my favorite type of magic. Especially after like 3 straight arcs about multiverse-threatening uber-baddies. The war is over, of course the planes are gonna try to "have fun" again. I'm more worried about power-creep and "oops we broke a format"-cards than the aesthetics of vroom-vroom go fast.
Maybe it would feel more earned if they'd actually given us some stakes during the big scary events. This just feels like another ass-pull flavor fail.
"Especially after like 3 straight arcs about multiverse-threatening-uber-baddies." The last arc that remotely resembled that description was the Phyrexian invasion arc, which concluded almost 2 years ago with March of the Machines. We have been having these cheap "theme" type sets without a proper story arc for over a year now. So I'm not sure what you mean by your comment.
Ironically this set is the official start of an interplanar conflict between Ravnica and Avishkar, as both planes seek to become multiplanar hegemons. This race is not about fun at all. It's about exerting influence.
Thunder Junction was just a bunch of random people mostly villains there wearing cowboy hats, made little sense, here though there's a reason why we have a random group of people, it's a multiversal race which in itself is pretty rad, thematically on paper it seems silly but I'm kinda down with it
The issue for me isn't the reduced size of the box, cause I was one of those not happy of having the minimum price of a box at 160€ here in France when sets were 125-135 and draft 105-115 ; technically now it goes back to where set boxes were. The issue is that Play boosters have less value than sets : when we had the list there was a fifth chance of having a rare per box, now only 4 and the odds are way less than in sets, not to mention the joke of special guests that not only are so scarce but on top of that most of them are uncommons or commons artificially upgraded to the mythic rarity and so the odds to pull a good one are even rarer. So they just merged sets and draft into one with less value than the former sets, which were the type of boxes I was mostly going for. I used to pull 6-8 mythics in set boxes with 30 packs, it's only been 5-6 max in play boxes so far and I've got quite a few of them. In the end it's just a price increase for less value, with a fake excuse of it being draftable AND having value like sets, when the reason those of us buying set boxes was to get more value and less bulk, which doesn't happen in play boxes. At least when there was draft + set boxes we had the choice, now it's just forced price increase with less value...
English Kaladesh booster boxes up to $2000, lol. GG WotC/Sweet Baby. I think the whole controversy was designed to distract from the fact we're getting 6 less packs.
I would love this set if the borders were silver. I was shocked to mostly like the PW's guide. Love the explanation for renaming Avishkar, love seeing Amonkhet and Muraganda. Actually, the only thing I really hate is the road itself.
Missed opportunity to have Jace's home plane of Vryn - u know, the place with Mage Rings - in the racing set. If we're going all-out on the goofiness, just give me cards with race cars going through rings for a "speed boost" dammit.
I'm out on the current generation of M:tG art direction at the set level. Individual artists are still exceptional. I don't think I'm the target demo any more and that's ok.
I think the story has a lot of interesting angels, you can trap a spark in an artifact and anyone can use it, we see how Avishkar and Amongket have changed, Amonkhet has two new gods (maybe more in the future), we see how the omenpath effect planes and their normal citizens and what they do with them, Valgavoth seem to become a multiversal player (which I like because I though his concept was really unique and intersting). My only problem is the racing part, I think there could have been a way where it felt unique and like magic but the way they did it looks, at least for now, to gimmicky and to dependent on pop culture references. But maybe they manage to still make it feel like magic and have an interesting story. Duskmourn for example surprised me and was actually better than I expected
I'm really still not sold on it at all. The last 2 years of sets have just felt like WotC trying to do their best Hearthstone impression, and I'd rather they don't. Also, 'problematic' name or not, Kaladesh honestly just sounds way more catchy than Avishkar. Can't see too many enfranchised players actually bothering to train themselves to use the new name instead.
I think the issue is not enough effort was put into the machinery to make them really stand as vehicles. Chandra's motorcycle is too simple and futuristic for Chandra, why isn't it designed for her to channel her fire into the bike for propulsion? The bike instantly feels closer to her and would likely have a more steampunk visual which has been a staple for her for years.
An ideal number of players for draft is 8. So an ideal box size would be 24. A 6 person draft is a minimum. This is just from my experience as someone who drafts rather often at my lgs.
it was really easy to just by a box and do 3 sealeds with my dad, guess I cant do that anymore... maybie if your packs have an average value of 3 bucks, we can just reduce pack price to compete.
There is an MB2 card that devoids out it's own keywords/abilities. I have a Jasmine of the Boreal deck in Pauper Commander, that i'd love to see more vanilla stuff, honestly if they give some more interesting vanilla matters tech could make it more worth it, give more pushed cards at vanilla. There is space, but it will probably mostly buff token making decks. Maybe do mirrym style duplication but for vanilla creatures, not sure. There are things like putting counters on them, or certain enchantments that don't give creatures stuff but keep it all tied to the equipment or enchantment it's on. There are things to be done that have existed before.
1:48 damn its almost like if you have to wait 2 years for feedbak on a change that you should make changes slower. Like maybe do one stupid fucking dog shit set, and then wait for it to come out and see what people think as opposed to just sending it and doing 3 or more years of them
Its weird.. That the face footage makes this much of a difference in my perspective. It just is a different vibe and my brain is processing the fact it is susceptible to psychological bs
I'm legit stoked for the hat(helmet) era to end. It fucking sucks. Also, lol at Pokemon and other cards making Magic look expensive. There's a solution to that that isn't just making the boxes smaller.
The race concept would have been fine if it had not been on cars/motorcycles. There are other ways to race someone. The GW faction uses the way I had done it. Horses. Mtg needs moar Hoarse.
It's reasonable to change a plane's name out of embarassment if you've done an oopsie, wotc is being ridiculous with some changes, but this one is understandable and i appreciate them doing more than just saying "kaladesh is avishkar now bye". I can't blame people for having a problem with that however, you can be offended by the word "question" and ban a long-time contributor from a C++ ISO standards group for using it, because you find the title of his article "The Undefined Behavior Question" too similar to "The Jewish Question", which happened in real life and it's not a joke. There's a point where trying not to be offensive to poeple, who you don't want to be offended, becomes comedic.
Why the hell did they made such a big deal about desparking planeswalkers and creating omenpaths if they are just going to respark the planeswalkers back anyway?
This will be the worst set ever... not to mention the fact that they are screwing us where bundles have 3 less play boosters and booster boxes will have 6 less play boosters in them, which will cost the same amount as is basically shrinkflation like every other product in the world. We as players and buys of this material should protest right now and when it comes out buy not buying this set ever! Send them a message to never screw with us again!! :(
...so MtG wacky races. The worldbuilding let me reconcile the GP with the MtG universe. And the idea of having the event in Avishcar makes sense too. The name change is fine; a revolution would do that or return to a previously held name. After all nobody blinked an eye when Mirrodin's name was change.
Creatively bankrupt set. Now if one of the commander decks from the set was vehicle themed, I would be happy; with the inclusion of additional vehicles in the overall set. I want to play magic to cast magic spells not to open a portal and have a million vehicles run over the opposing magi. Weak. I really hope the person leading creative during this period 2 years ago is out of the loop.
Universes beyond is fun but the issue with it is that they went overboard with it. One or two universes beyond stuff a year would’ve been ideal as it would let Magic still keep its identity. I can’t even tell what Magic is anymore. It’s like fantasy Fortnite at this point.
I absolutely fucking hate the "oh oops we're now renaming this because of a foreign language". WOTC is an USA company that speaks english. Sometimes a mock up name ends up matching another language's, less fortunate words and tbh, that's fucking fine. When Katy Perry launched the song "Peacock" all the Brazilians went on a collective surge of immaturity because the pronounciation of Peacock is the same for one of the 100 words we have for male genitals. And the song lyrics really didn't help either. But here we are nowadays crowding up entire stadiums for Katy Perry concerns whenever she's down here.
IDK this set seems absolute gas The planeswalker's guides seem to take these worlds seriously The art that's been showcased is gorgeous, ESPECIALLY the amonkhet art. They introduced a plethora or new characters and new worlds, so it's not just "everyone you know in a hat" it's NEW PEOPLE THE BUGS BECOME CARS IN A MAGICAL RITUAL THAT'S CONSIDERED A HIGH HONOR It's a set where discussion of it has been around for over a decade They have an entire history about this race being a countercultural movement I think, after Bloomburrow and Duskmourn, we should consider MKM and Thunder Junction to be misstepps, and not the status quo. I don't see any memes or un-ness here, like if you do, how so Yeah, I just do not agree with these takes so far. I have been playing for over a decade which around the middle between the boomers and the zoomers, but this set seems really damn good so far
I love that you explain this thing that you are not pumped about in a way that has me extremely into it. I'm in for the Hanna Barbera Wacky Races set, with the teams from other planes.
I would appreciate it if UW sets didn't get made into parodies in the future. I am not a fan of this beach epsiode - set for Magic. We are already getting so much UB crap shoved down our throats every other week that it would be a nice refresher to experience a proper 3 set cycle on a single plain with cohesive storytelling instead of these one-of joke sets.
I think it’s pointless changing the name (call me the worst person you know). Been 8 years and no one complained. Only because they have now told us it’s offensive people r being offended. They should’ve kept quiet. The same people are mad about “tribal”. Just like DND players being offended by dark elves by being racist themselves and comparing them to black people. And the same with half elves. Ridiculous. 4:32
If we had to have a cars set I would have rather it been Mad Max themed than Tron. Both would be stupid but Mad Max would be a little cooler in aggregate. I guess I wouldn’t buy either though so it doesn’t matter.
Yeah I was pretty negative on the set and it does feel cheap, I agree with a lot of your early points. BUT... as I see more I think I may like it a bit more, I have more bits of art I really love, and I think kaladesh / avishkar may be my second favorite plane after new kamigawa. As a huge cyberpunk fan it's such a cool vibe with the tech. But yeah still, the set being focused k racing is pretty tacky. I think they could've found a cooler concept to base the plane around. There's definitely nuggets to love here! And as a standard player I have to pay attention to the powerful cards from EVERY set, so I'll probably still play it
Now this is pod racing!
This feels similar to Duskmourne, where the creative team actally did a great job with most of the worldbuilding, but there is always this undercurrent of shallow, focus tested corporate grime over the whole thing.
That said, I am excited we get to see some more of Muraganda. It has lost a lot of it's identity I think since Dinosaurs are just a big part of magic now in general even apart from Ixalan. I think there could have still been some potential in showing very early socities living there.
While I'm not too hot on the racing theme, I do like the idea of a "compilation set" like this where we visit multiple planes that mabye we wouldn't get to see otherwise. A plane like Xerex for example is really cool but probably wouldn't work too well for a standalone set.
They might as well have put in a team of goofy cavepeople with Flintstone cars to match Muraganda, but maybe that was deemed to goofy.
yeah the Travelogue sets (what maro called it) would be great for introducing new planes that can't fit a full set
I actually think Valgavoth allowing people to get out in exchange for a spark makes a lot of sense. He really wants to expand out of Duskmourn and the spark would give him that.
Him letting people out and even sparing their lives is not unprecedented either, with the whole cult of Valgavoth and his deal with Winter.
I actually want to see what he could do with a Planeswalker spark and how it interacts with his curse.
I've really disliked the implementation of Omenpaths so far, so I'm glad you mentioned that it's cool to see them used as to make this set take place on multiple planes. I feel like it's a good way to showcase them, better than Thunder Junction in my opinion.
So far Omenpaths only seem to make planes feel less internally integral with people from different planes showing up on other planes. Takes away some form of identity
Seems like an awfully high number of teams to be able to get a significant amount of lore and support cards for each team/color pairing.
Remember when Ravnica had to split into multiple sets, just to cover each Guild!
Give me that Vin Diesel Secret Lair baby!!!
@@EstimatedAdam The Family Bundle
Nah. Twisted Metal!
I cannot wait for Baywatch Jace and Vraska!
Can't wait to go back to Kalad- oh wait
"BOOST GOD" now I need JDM goblins
Well, "helping Avishkar grow as a multiversal, interdimensional power" as a reason to host a Grand Prix sure tracks with the sorts of reasons F1 gives for going to real up-and-coming tourist destinations like Azerbaijan, Qatar, Bahrain, Jeddah, and Sochi (that just happen to be willing to pay F1 a small fortune for the privilege of hosting Grands Prix). So that's at least sort of faithful to real life.
If we are getting this silly in MTG, I wish the Universes Beyond for this set was Fast and Furious so you can give flying to Vin Diesel, to attack "in the air" so the spanish meme "EN EL AIRE" is canon in MTG.
EDIT: So my Opponent can respond with "¿¡QUE!?"
The worst part for me currently is why would this interplanar organization allow the Valgolavoth team to officially enter. Seems like letting a plane consuming super-demon have a legitimate chance to win a Planeswalker spark might be a bad idea.
Maybe his involvement isn't public.
@PleasantKenobi That's the angle I hope they go; the formatting of the guide article makes it seem like they are "official", but maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
First we had one plane three sets. Then we had one plane one set. Now we have one set three planes. The tictocification of Magic is real
My prediction: Nissa wins the spark and absorbs it, only to find out it's Tibalt's spark. Chaos ensues.
7:43 I think from a farther standpoint this may be Valgavoth trying to get his own spark, possibly trying to use a spark to expand his plane out into other planes? Possibly.
Minor nitpick: the reformed Consulate post-Aether Revolt was still unpopular because it didn't do enough to loosen restrictions on Aether - and were completely unprepared for the Phyrexian invasion. The current Assembly that changed the name of the plane and is trying to become a multiplanar center of culture is the result of *another* revolution. The New Culture Collective used underground street racing as a flashy recruitment tactic to entice people to join their resistance to the Consulate, which left them uniquely prepared to serve as recon scouts and search-and-rescue during the invasion. With help from some Renegades from the first revolution, they rode their wave of popularity into a new, more democratic government.
How am i supposed to watch a video without the Internet's best beard.
Personally I’m disappointed with Aetherdrift because I care a lot about flavor and I like being able to take my fantasy settings seriously. Bloomburrow was super, super cool to me. Duskmourn, Outlaws, and Karlov were disappointing for the obvious costume reasons. I haven’t been playing for *that* long but after experiencing Bloomburrow, I’m sad knowing there won’t be anything like it. Maybe the Tarkir one will be cool.
Yugioh 5DS fans everywhere getting bricked up when they see this lol. "IT'S ALL CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES NOW, BAAAAAABBBBBYYYYYY!!!!!!!!"
Bros face is speechless…
This is a weird looking UNset.
What if they did a spinoff mtg series that the story was rated R (the cards would still be pg 13 since its public stuff)
Oh shit, a big TH-camr watched my video.
@@PleasantKenobi Its the big guy
what's un about it?
@neminem233 ive seen you everywhere in recent vids lol
Magic has already turned into the TCG equivalent of Funko Pops, I just hope we get some cool cards.
I like the wacky themes. This one in particular hits home with me as someone who grew up with Hot Wheels World Race/Acceleracers
This set very much feels like a return to the very mid to poor sets of late such as murders and outlaws and I don’t hold out much hope that it’ll be as fun as DM or as well designed as BB
Murders I can agree, was poor. But Outlaws, aside from a weak theme, was a fun set imo. It had a lot of good and fun cards that slot well into existing decks.
Murders on the other hand had both a massive flavour fail, and very forgettable cards. The surveil lands were nice but nothing about the set interests me in the slightest.
@@boringmonkey6958I agree re the cards in outlaws, some good stuff in there. My worry is that even if there are decent cards in the set the new set will share the same weaknesses in terms of theme
The thumbnail leads me to believe that a Queen Atom must've escaped some Calcium. Looks like we've got a full scale Helvetica Scenario on our hands.
maybe the gobos are just trying to get back to the Waagh. The red ones go faster!
Honestly, goofy, high-concept fantasy camp is my favorite type of magic. Especially after like 3 straight arcs about multiverse-threatening uber-baddies. The war is over, of course the planes are gonna try to "have fun" again.
I'm more worried about power-creep and "oops we broke a format"-cards than the aesthetics of vroom-vroom go fast.
Maybe it would feel more earned if they'd actually given us some stakes during the big scary events. This just feels like another ass-pull flavor fail.
Mirrodin avenged and Elspeth smite were among the first MoM cards to be spoiled 😂 talk about anti-climatic
"Especially after like 3 straight arcs about multiverse-threatening-uber-baddies."
The last arc that remotely resembled that description was the Phyrexian invasion arc, which concluded almost 2 years ago with March of the Machines.
We have been having these cheap "theme" type sets without a proper story arc for over a year now. So I'm not sure what you mean by your comment.
Ironically this set is the official start of an interplanar conflict between Ravnica and Avishkar, as both planes seek to become multiplanar hegemons.
This race is not about fun at all. It's about exerting influence.
@@scaredycat3146 and that would be a much cooler story if they didn't set the stakes in the absolute basement by having it be about race cars.
Thunder Junction was just a bunch of random people mostly villains there wearing cowboy hats, made little sense, here though there's a reason why we have a random group of people, it's a multiversal race which in itself is pretty rad, thematically on paper it seems silly but I'm kinda down with it
This is just wacky races
Looking forward to cyclonic drift getting printed
Waiting for a death race and mad Max promos
It's Sparky, from Arena!
The issue for me isn't the reduced size of the box, cause I was one of those not happy of having the minimum price of a box at 160€ here in France when sets were 125-135 and draft 105-115 ; technically now it goes back to where set boxes were.
The issue is that Play boosters have less value than sets : when we had the list there was a fifth chance of having a rare per box, now only 4 and the odds are way less than in sets, not to mention the joke of special guests that not only are so scarce but on top of that most of them are uncommons or commons artificially upgraded to the mythic rarity and so the odds to pull a good one are even rarer.
So they just merged sets and draft into one with less value than the former sets, which were the type of boxes I was mostly going for. I used to pull 6-8 mythics in set boxes with 30 packs, it's only been 5-6 max in play boxes so far and I've got quite a few of them.
In the end it's just a price increase for less value, with a fake excuse of it being draftable AND having value like sets, when the reason those of us buying set boxes was to get more value and less bulk, which doesn't happen in play boxes.
At least when there was draft + set boxes we had the choice, now it's just forced price increase with less value...
English Kaladesh booster boxes up to $2000, lol. GG WotC/Sweet Baby.
I think the whole controversy was designed to distract from the fact we're getting 6 less packs.
I would love this set if the borders were silver. I was shocked to mostly like the PW's guide. Love the explanation for renaming Avishkar, love seeing Amonkhet and Muraganda. Actually, the only thing I really hate is the road itself.
Missed opportunity to have Jace's home plane of Vryn - u know, the place with Mage Rings - in the racing set. If we're going all-out on the goofiness, just give me cards with race cars going through rings for a "speed boost" dammit.
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Mario Secret Lair would break the records but Nintendo does not like to share their IP :D
Card games on motorcycles?
I'm out on the current generation of M:tG art direction at the set level. Individual artists are still exceptional. I don't think I'm the target demo any more and that's ok.
Sometimes it slaps. Other times it's pandering. But at least it still slaps sometimes! Honestly on a card by card basis, it does more that it doesn't
Peacewalker Colossus go vroom
If the olympic comittee would see how I am going to jump this set..:
If there was a Kylem focus, _tag-team_ card games on motorbikes.
New mechanic "Go Fast". I can see it now.
Card Games on Motorcycles.
So yugioh essentially
Looks like a Hasbo Toy UB set
Should have been jayce and the wheeled warriors
I think the story has a lot of interesting angels, you can trap a spark in an artifact and anyone can use it, we see how Avishkar and Amongket have changed, Amonkhet has two new gods (maybe more in the future), we see how the omenpath effect planes and their normal citizens and what they do with them, Valgavoth seem to become a multiversal player (which I like because I though his concept was really unique and intersting). My only problem is the racing part, I think there could have been a way where it felt unique and like magic but the way they did it looks, at least for now, to gimmicky and to dependent on pop culture references. But maybe they manage to still make it feel like magic and have an interesting story. Duskmourn for example surprised me and was actually better than I expected
I'm really still not sold on it at all. The last 2 years of sets have just felt like WotC trying to do their best Hearthstone impression, and I'd rather they don't.
Also, 'problematic' name or not, Kaladesh honestly just sounds way more catchy than Avishkar. Can't see too many enfranchised players actually bothering to train themselves to use the new name instead.
If aetherdrift was the next set after khans block it probably would’ve gotten laughed out of existence
Okay, why does a mummy need a helmet? They already scooped the brains out.
I mean, I'd imagine a sapient undead with a hollow head would appreciate not having it cave in during a crash...
I think the issue is not enough effort was put into the machinery to make them really stand as vehicles. Chandra's motorcycle is too simple and futuristic for Chandra, why isn't it designed for her to channel her fire into the bike for propulsion? The bike instantly feels closer to her and would likely have a more steampunk visual which has been a staple for her for years.
I hope snidley whiplash and snagglepuss are in this one
It’s giving uninspired Wacky Races vibes
Give me Twisted Metal!
The video thumbnail reminded me: did you ever get to hit Urza with your car?
To shrink boxes they shouldve done 18 packs for half the price so drafters would still be able to have an even amount of packs.
An ideal number of players for draft is 8. So an ideal box size would be 24. A 6 person draft is a minimum. This is just from my experience as someone who drafts rather often at my lgs.
@jakynth oh crap ur right
I'm with Team Phyrexia for life, whose vehicles run on glistening oil, aka ichor.
it was really easy to just by a box and do 3 sealeds with my dad, guess I cant do that anymore... maybie if your packs have an average value of 3 bucks, we can just reduce pack price to compete.
Why not just buy a box plus 6 packs? Comes out to the same price of a 36 pack box?
There is an MB2 card that devoids out it's own keywords/abilities. I have a Jasmine of the Boreal deck in Pauper Commander, that i'd love to see more vanilla stuff, honestly if they give some more interesting vanilla matters tech could make it more worth it, give more pushed cards at vanilla. There is space, but it will probably mostly buff token making decks. Maybe do mirrym style duplication but for vanilla creatures, not sure. There are things like putting counters on them, or certain enchantments that don't give creatures stuff but keep it all tied to the equipment or enchantment it's on. There are things to be done that have existed before.
1:48 damn its almost like if you have to wait 2 years for feedbak on a change that you should make changes slower. Like maybe do one stupid fucking dog shit set, and then wait for it to come out and see what people think as opposed to just sending it and doing 3 or more years of them
8 year old me would be going crazy since I was a Hotwheels kid
CaRd GaMeS oN mOtOrCyCLeS!
Let's play card games Yusei
Standing completely still
On
The
Ground
_Yusei wakes up_
I need my alt art Beetleback Cheif on a VW
I'm definitely skipping this Tokyo Drift set.
Its weird.. That the face footage makes this much of a difference in my perspective. It just is a different vibe and my brain is processing the fact it is susceptible to psychological bs
I feel like they will work some fast and furious stuff in here. Give me dom's charger wizards lol
We better get a new version of my favorite character, greasefang
I'm legit stoked for the hat(helmet) era to end. It fucking sucks. Also, lol at Pokemon and other cards making Magic look expensive. There's a solution to that that isn't just making the boxes smaller.
We need more energy cards
Card games on motorcycles!
Not a fan of this one, it sorta fits but I do prefer when MTG takes itself at least a little serious.
Play Flesh and Blood
Are plane planets?
If/When Mtg UB?
If we don’t get a Paul Walker Planeswalker I quit
The race concept would have been fine if it had not been on cars/motorcycles. There are other ways to race someone. The GW faction uses the way I had done it. Horses. Mtg needs moar Hoarse.
Minion crossover when?
Didn't they had cultural advisors when they first made Kaladesh? Did those ended up not enough in some capacity?
I dont think they did, or not to the extent they do now.
WotC was a far smaller company then.
oh the finance side of MTG have already made their torches and pitchforks on the name change.
The cross over between MTG Finance and Grifters is pretty big? Shocked.
Very interesting to see the India-inspired plane get turned into a "progressive" colonial power. Once again incredible world building from WotC.
It's reasonable to change a plane's name out of embarassment if you've done an oopsie, wotc is being ridiculous with some changes, but this one is understandable and i appreciate them doing more than just saying "kaladesh is avishkar now bye".
I can't blame people for having a problem with that however, you can be offended by the word "question" and ban a long-time contributor from a C++ ISO standards group for using it, because you find the title of his article "The Undefined Behavior Question" too similar to "The Jewish Question", which happened in real life and it's not a joke. There's a point where trying not to be offensive to poeple, who you don't want to be offended, becomes comedic.
Why the hell did they made such a big deal about desparking planeswalkers and creating omenpaths if they are just going to respark the planeswalkers back anyway?
I hope this set sells so bad that they take a big step back from "fun themes".
This will be the worst set ever... not to mention the fact that they are screwing us where bundles have 3 less play boosters and booster boxes will have 6 less play boosters in them, which will cost the same amount as is basically shrinkflation like every other product in the world. We as players and buys of this material should protest right now and when it comes out buy not buying this set ever! Send them a message to never screw with us again!! :(
Just as I don't buy universe beyond sets, I won't be buing this filler set either.
wacky races + twisted metal? weird for magic with racing being such a huge focus instead of just a part of the story as a whole.
...so MtG wacky races.
The worldbuilding let me reconcile the GP with the MtG universe. And the idea of having the event in Avishcar makes sense too. The name change is fine; a revolution would do that or return to a previously held name. After all nobody blinked an eye when Mirrodin's name was change.
@@Keinish79 they had to extinguish multiple civilizations and had a player-response poll before they changed the name.
Creatively bankrupt set. Now if one of the commander decks from the set was vehicle themed, I would be happy; with the inclusion of additional vehicles in the overall set. I want to play magic to cast magic spells not to open a portal and have a million vehicles run over the opposing magi. Weak.
I really hope the person leading creative during this period 2 years ago is out of the loop.
Aren’t both the decks vehicle themed?
Universes beyond is fun but the issue with it is that they went overboard with it. One or two universes beyond stuff a year would’ve been ideal as it would let Magic still keep its identity. I can’t even tell what Magic is anymore. It’s like fantasy Fortnite at this point.
Whacky Racers.
I absolutely fucking hate the "oh oops we're now renaming this because of a foreign language".
WOTC is an USA company that speaks english. Sometimes a mock up name ends up matching another language's, less fortunate words and tbh, that's fucking fine.
When Katy Perry launched the song "Peacock" all the Brazilians went on a collective surge of immaturity because the pronounciation of Peacock is the same for one of the 100 words we have for male genitals.
And the song lyrics really didn't help either. But here we are nowadays crowding up entire stadiums for Katy Perry concerns whenever she's down here.
IDK this set seems absolute gas
The planeswalker's guides seem to take these worlds seriously
The art that's been showcased is gorgeous, ESPECIALLY the amonkhet art.
They introduced a plethora or new characters and new worlds, so it's not just "everyone you know in a hat" it's NEW PEOPLE
THE BUGS BECOME CARS IN A MAGICAL RITUAL THAT'S CONSIDERED A HIGH HONOR
It's a set where discussion of it has been around for over a decade
They have an entire history about this race being a countercultural movement
I think, after Bloomburrow and Duskmourn, we should consider MKM and Thunder Junction to be misstepps, and not the status quo.
I don't see any memes or un-ness here, like if you do, how so
Yeah, I just do not agree with these takes so far. I have been playing for over a decade which around the middle between the boomers and the zoomers, but this set seems really damn good so far
I love that you explain this thing that you are not pumped about in a way that has me extremely into it. I'm in for the Hanna Barbera Wacky Races set, with the teams from other planes.
I would appreciate it if UW sets didn't get made into parodies in the future. I am not a fan of this beach epsiode - set for Magic. We are already getting so much UB crap shoved down our throats every other week that it would be a nice refresher to experience a proper 3 set cycle on a single plain with cohesive storytelling instead of these one-of joke sets.
I think it’s pointless changing the name (call me the worst person you know). Been 8 years and no one complained. Only because they have now told us it’s offensive people r being offended. They should’ve kept quiet. The same people are mad about “tribal”. Just like DND players being offended by dark elves by being racist themselves and comparing them to black people. And the same with half elves. Ridiculous. 4:32
Then, Sponge Bob join to race , won and Jace invite him to fight against darth vader to save fairytopia.
If we had to have a cars set I would have rather it been Mad Max themed than Tron. Both would be stupid but Mad Max would be a little cooler in aggregate. I guess I wouldn’t buy either though so it doesn’t matter.
not for me
What? I'm sorry, I know you were talking about this set but, I just kind of tuned out.
Yeah I was pretty negative on the set and it does feel cheap, I agree with a lot of your early points.
BUT...
as I see more I think I may like it a bit more, I have more bits of art I really love, and I think kaladesh / avishkar may be my second favorite plane after new kamigawa. As a huge cyberpunk fan it's such a cool vibe with the tech.
But yeah still, the set being focused k racing is pretty tacky. I think they could've found a cooler concept to base the plane around.
There's definitely nuggets to love here! And as a standard player I have to pay attention to the powerful cards from EVERY set, so I'll probably still play it