sure after I drop 100 jeganthas off at gamestop for grading so I can retire and grade pokemon energy(lands?) cards to create a penny(stocks?) grading market thats absolutely valid and fills a niche that totally needs filled.
Commie Commander here, I have used Surf Shark for the last three years, not a bad service. Ended up canceling it though, they don't offer port forwarding, but if you just need a standard VPN with no limits (no one is going to hit 100 devices unless you are a business) it's a solid vpn.
I found just the other day a whole TH-cam channel that was a cult run by Ai. It was called the galactic federation of light or GFL, and just posted Ai videos or images of aliens talking and pretended to be those aliens to thousands of people. Worse the comments were full of people praising them and thanking them.
"Is it harming anyone?" Yes, it's harming the environment. It takes a significant amount of energy and carbon footprint to fulfill all these generative AI requests. This account along with the millions of other spam AI content farms contribute a lot to this environmental issue.
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Indeed. Hosting data on servers uses energy and ressources (videos are the heaviest of all, having visual and audio included), it is even worse for AI, as we also actively feed them information to make them better, and each learning task/query to create something uses additionnal energy. AI is not a free ressource, to the point where microsoft is investing in nuclear energy in the prospect of having to produce an enormous amount of energy just to fuel their data centers.
Gen AI is theft in all its forms. The very act of using it causes harm. Even if they somehow fix the enviornmental damage (they won't) they can't sustain the system without stealing from real artists, writers, coders, voice actors, photographers, models and musicians.
well nuclear is gonna be the future of energy if the world doesnt get their shit together and invest a bunch into actual renewable energy. But yea this sort of use for ai is just adding more slop to yt
@@sethadelman8 Nuclear was always going to be the future because its cheaper and easier. Corporations don't give a fuck about environmental damage, they just say they do to look good lmfao.
Imagine: right now rainforest is being cut down and oil wells are being drilled to power AIs that generate meaningless and unpleasing videos about MTG cards that literally zero human beings are actually ever going to watch. Now THAT'S efficiency, Baby! 🔥🔥🔥
The faceless AI videos already exist. The ones I see most often, and have the biggest dislike for, are the ones that take stories from Reddit (most often AskReddit) and just have the AI read, while they superimpose either Minecraft parkour stuff or those crafting videos. Sometimes they do it with text messages. And it is only going to get worse.
The forest grows ever more dense, and I find it harder to find content like I did back in the 2010s naturally. I feel like the internet is eventually going to be too big and too full of just garbage.
not for long unfortunately. a bot will scrape your music, feed it to llm, and continuously generated stream of sounds will be uploaded to a streaming service and content id service and said service will issue copyright strike on _your_ music because it sounds similar to what machine generated based on _your_ music... i really do not know we have any solution to this.
@@sablesalt there is nothing stopping anyone from claiming to have copyright over material generated with llm even without any human modification of if after it was generated and the onus will be on you to prove insufficient modification to be copyrightable. in the meantime your content will be demonetized or taken down completely (worst case third strike and your channel disappears). and last but not least this is just usa ruling (i assume we are talking about the comic book case from last year and such) and it does not apply to other parts of the world, which from what i have heard is quite big. ;)
This is a particularly bad AI channel, I've seen some damn convincing ones and that isn't even close. I have seen channels about motorsports which would definitely make you think twice if they were real or not. This one hasn't even followed the basic advice for any TH-camr, human or not, which is to pick a niche and stick in it. Just incredible scenes honestly, truly awful slop. I suspect that's because they're not attempting to monetise the channel itself through the partner programme, but rather, entirely make money off of the Amazon links. Social Blade can't tell you that, it thinks I make £201 - £3.2K a month, but I make nothing, because I'm not in the partner programme because the partner programme has standards, and that channel would never meet them. As for if this is hurting anyone? Yeah. I am most of the way to having a masters in content creation, so these aren't the only issues but they are the ones I understand best. If an AI channel _is_ in the partner programme, it's hurting legitimate creators, firstly by taking a portion of TH-cam Premium money, which is pooled, which means the more of it that goes to these channels, the less goes to people that actually put in effort; and secondly it hurts the value of ads on the platform, companies are less likely to run ads if those are going to appear alongside this kind of slop. However even when they're not, any impression they get is one that a human created video doesn't, and that makes starting out just that little bit harder, and damn man, it's hard enough as it is to find any kind of traction here. Competing with this just means more people won't keep going long enough to make it, and that hurts TH-cam, it hurts TH-cam viewers, and it hurts the ecosystem of TH-cam creators.
This is a youtube problem as a whole I recently learned that a tuber that I follow was nothing more then a bot but until that came to light the youtuber got 380k subscribers for Southpark content.
Ah, Ceric Artman. Never liked that channel, watched one video and it was weird. Decided not to engage further, then saw the Blooms video calling them out.
@@PleasantKenobi which is kind of odd to me. You'd think Warhammer fans would understand why it's important to do art by hand because they spend so much time painting miniatures. Think of how much less interesting Warhammer would be if your opponent didn't include gross little details on their Nurgle or if every Space Marine had identical weathering on their armor.
The short feed for me here on TH-cam is nothing but TV show clips, comic book summaries and ripped reels & TikToks. With almost no original content. It’s a little frustrating to go through.
I would go out on a limb and say there's not even a person behind this channel and the 'review' was scraped from some other site. Through RPA it's quite easy to automate clicks like uploading images
There will be a person who set this up. They are doing this all automated to make some amount of quick/easy money. They may have never saw what the video was about, or anything like that, but there is a person at the end of it all.
@@PleasantKenobi most of their subscribers and views probably come from other click/view bots. I can easily see someone with a good set up simply automate making the videos, automate liking/viewing on another computer and self monetize
I'm really looking forward to the PK roast when wotc inevitably starts utilizing AI for card art, key set art, or whatever else they can't be bothered to pay artists livable wages for.
TH-cam is littered with garbage text-to-speech vids like that. Look how many of those are "No views" - it's attempting (badly) to become a content farm. They'd be better off stealing TikToks.
Meh, sure it had its fun moments but let's not go too hard on the rose-tinted nostalgic look back. There were still plenty of problems with it back then. Eg. viewbotting/viewhacking was rampant in those days in order to get onto the Most Viewed pages (this was back when you could just keep auto-refreshing a video and have it count as a view each time). Or do many other things trying to game the system.
People just do it to get by, but are very insincere, and not real like TH-cam used to be, to 'Broadcast yourself'. I think the same is true with sponsorships most people take. It's blatantly obvious while peddling some VPN on a channel with zero relation to the topic, or inserting a sponsor for a mattress or whatever else. Personally, I do not respect it, the same way you wouldn't respect someone putting that amazon affiliate in that bio. I think youtube is pretty damn bad now, I use it less and less. I foresee leaving the platform soon enough. A few good science youtubers keep me hanging on, just barely.
I remember a few months ago listening to music on my phone (notably I'm not logged into google on my phone) and the third video in the recommendations was always ai music with tens of views. I get less ai recommendations nowadays so maybe youtube has figured out nobody wants this slop, but for a good while the algorithm was really pushing ai content. It's annoying cuz ai feels like something you have to opt out of, you gotta tell youtube 'don't recommend these channels' multiple times before it stops shoving slop onto you.
At least on the plus side for mtg anything that is not Universes Beyond should be next to impossible for the AI text to speech to say correctly if the card has any plane specific naming
That's the dream for them: Unlimited artwork, without having to pay any pesky, ungrateful (their sentiment, not mine) artists for it. Imagine the endless deluge of product they could print if they could get away with it. 😐 And I wouldn't ever put it past them given their recent history.
@@dpv007 I find it hard to be that pessimistic. WOTC has already said multiple times they wont (intentionally) use AI art for their products, and while I wont give the multi-billion dollar corporation too much credit, I do kinda buy that. Games like Magic are at the end of the day a luxury product like most forms of art, where its literal function isn't the thing that derives its actual value. Luxury products get their value by selling you on the amount of work that went into making them, which Magic is really leaning into with all of the various art treatments and foilings and such of their cards. They go out of their way to try and avoid seeming cheap, and the various posts their artists make showing their process for the pieces that go into the game are functionally more advertising. They've also cut ties with the individual artists that snuck AI art past them already, and makes sense purely from a financial standpoint. The artists are paid on commission, likely for a full original piece, so I doubt the company is happy to hear the artist is taking shortcuts and delivering a product that, thanks to how laws about AI art work right now, they might not actually have the copyright to. Dont get me wrong, Hasbro is stupid and I wouldn't put it past them to make a very dumb decision, but I'm skeptical when the art IS THE PRODUCT. Of all the corners that can be cut, its one of the least feasible ones to. It would be like a jewlery store deciding to sell only brass bands because they're technically rings. Yeah, they're far cheaper, and I could propose to someone with one, but its not what anyone is in the market for.
It's like this was written for someone who doesn't know what Magic is but also why would someone who doesn't know what Magic is care about Jegantha to begin with?
It's because jegantha gets mentioned a lot due to being in many decks, then input cards text into the ai and asking it analyze why such a card is good causes it spew a bunch of generalized nonsense since most mtg knowledge is about the basics. It's not able to comprehend that everything of interest about the card has to do with the other cards in deck
It’s not even WOTC official was caught using AI slop on instagram. Honestly at what point of saturation will it take until people turn away from social media platforms altogether is the more interesting question
@@biotopebiologist5030 I don't think you would like the answer. I've seen some AI stuff get a lot of positive comments engagement from people who clearly don't know it's AI and probably wouldn't care even if they did. These people are a corporation's dream. People who will consume the sloppiest content they can create for free. I've also seen some mtg artwork on cards that is obviously AI generated although it could just be individual artists secretly using AI and WotC may not know. But my suspicion is the complete opposite. I believe that WotC have developed a model like Midjourney trained on their vast catalogue of artwork and they are generating backgrounds for the artists to use. The background art in nearly every set since Murders at Karlov Manor has been very suspicious. If WotC thought artists might use AI, they would want it to be trained on their own artwork to achieve the best results so why not get ahead of the trend and build a model.
JJJacksfilms has really been going hard on his videos tearing into spam and faceless youtube channels lately, in addition to his content calling out channels that steal content for reaction content but don't do anything but sit there and watch the content or laugh.
But all this low-effort shit has a following. "Calling them out" is pointless, because it's not like people get cheated. They watch and they enjoy what they watch enough to come back for more, at least for a while.
I really really really really really really really liked the analogy about avoiding giving it air and letting it suffocate....... Call me a violent person, but that was super satisfying to hear
Hey there. I have been using an AI speech to text program to make video shorts content for my pokemon tcg channel, using my own written scripts, about my favorite tcg sub format, GLC which is very similar to EDH. I started using it when I lost my voice to a cold, but I've kept using it because it's much better voice quality then my crappy microphone and voice and makes it easier for me to make the content I want to make, though I still record my own voice for my longer gameplay videos. I also spend a lot of time, up to 3 hours per short, not just editing the videos, but rewriting, regenning, and editing the voice so that it has a more natural sounding cadence to it. I don't do it to farm views, I'm barely able to make 2 shorts a week between my IRL dad/employee responsibilities, but it allows me to make the content I want to make with my restrictions. I will often watch and rewatch the shorts I make because I enjoy them. Am I doing something bad?
I'd say AI voice is the least offensive use of AI in content creation, hell there are so many useful how-to videos out there that are just hard to watch because people speak through their nose or hardly know english, that would be better with an AI voice. I just hope there'll be enough variety, cause the "ultra masculine movie trailer voice" is already overused and annoying.
Yes. AI is awful for the environment. Even the AI voices, which have stolen from other people and other VAs, are bad. Especially regenerating it constantly to sound different? It is ethically unacceptable because of the damage it does to the planet. Also, whenever I or most people see a short with an AI voice, we just scroll past it. It always gives the impression of low effort. No one wants to waste their time with it. So if you want to grow, you have to use a real voice
Yes. Using AI is an energy waste and stealing to even a minor extent as it can't cite things or make original content. Only rewrite what it's already seen.
If I hear AI voices I just click off. Your videos could be well-scripted and informative but the vast, vast majority of videos that use AI voices are just completely horrible. I don't want to waste time so I just don't watch videos that use AI voices. For every one that is actually interesting there are a thousand that are unwatchable. But I don't want that to be discouraging because I think there is actually an unfilled niche with GLC content on TH-cam. Outside of Andrew at Tricky Gym who created the format and his friend Morse who helps him collect data, I can think of maybe 2 GLC creators. 1 of them doesn't upload consistently and the other only makes GLC videos every now and then and is more dedicated to collecting. There just isn't a dedicated GLC channel on TH-cam from what I have seen, which sucks because I think it's a super fun format. If you got an entry-level recording setup, I think you are probably close to having a really cool TH-cam channel. You've already practiced video editing and script writiting, so it really is just the audio you need to learn. I don't make TH-cam videos but I am a music producer. I'd recommend looking at Shure microphones (the SM7B is the industry standard but the SM57 or SM58 with a pop filter would be perfectly fine) and Focusrite Scarlet interfaces (You can get whatever you want but you don't need more than the 4i4 to start, just make sure it has at least 1 mic preamp and and XLR input) and you can get a setup that's 95% as good as a professional setup for $300-500. Audacity is a free program to edit audio, but I'm sure whatever you use to edit videos also has something to work with audio. Recording audio can be intimidating and listening to yourself talk is awkward, but it is totally worth it for how much it can improve your videos. Again, don't get discouraged by us hating AI. You have a really good idea for a TH-cam channel and in my opinion you should keep working on it, just using your voice.
No, but he doesn't actually play mtg from my understanding, he hires others to write the scripts for him for mtg stuff. He does play yugioh and got started with his main channel the duel logs
When I started playing in 2002, I was drawn in by the artwork. It is what still drives my interest in Magic. Once card art becomes AI slop, I am out for good.
"TH-cam's great for finding tutorials for, I don't know, changing a lightbulb." Which really begs the question: how many content creators does it take to change a lightbulb?
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Gotta say I completely stopped watching shorts because AI nonsense ends up being 90% of the content the second you scroll past what you actually clicked on.
8:27 12 bucks and i can learn how to destroy youtube?!?! What a deal. Off to make 8000 youtube accounts that automatically make new videos every 10 minutes
No, every one of us should report that crap as spam, or offensive, or whatever else you feel applies. Report it. Sure, they may shrug off a few reports. Report it! But when a massive amount of the people who watch these videos keep reporting them as spam, TH-cam will have to respond. So, REPORT IT!
You nailed it, it does hurt real people. Real artist on youtube, giving us their art and these AI channels are taking from the giant pot. And it's only going to get much much worse as AI get much more powerful :(. -CC
Based on the history of that channel being live since 2008 but not uploading until recently, I'd wager that it's a hacked account where it was stolen, gutted, rebranded, and the flooded with this crap instead.
Any videos like this you can report as spam. Jacksfilms has also been calling out this crap on his secondary channel too, it’s an increasing problem and we should stand up to it. It seems harmless but it really isn’t!
Magic simply isn’t a game you can love for anything other than gameplay. Not anymore. They’ve assassinated the artistry entirely. It is imminent that official arts will be predominantly ai. We likely aren’t all that far away from basic card templates being ai generated and then just touched up by designers.
AI will kill humanity. Not like The Terminator franchise but deep inside our souls. This new era makes me so sad. If I want virtual stuff, I play video games. But the rest of the time, I need a real world with real people. Fake is the new Vibe... And don't launch me on art(work), music,...
Honestly. The AI slop especially like this is worse than spamming the site when you also consider the ecological impact all these layers of generative AI are having. The energy demands for this garbage content are insane and undoing every bit of progress we had made as humanity to reduce greenhouse gasses
As just one yutz who watches a lot of TH-cam, but rarely buys anything through it, I think the biggest problem I have with this is the dialog. I can accept that some people don't want to record their own voices; maybe they believe their own voice wouldn't sell well, or mesh with their market. Why do 40k content with your girly voice, when you can make it sound like David Attenborough, doing an historical review, but the thing that annoys me most is how choppy, and inaccurate, the voicing is? Now, I KNOW that there are a couple of words i might say wrong. I can think of one, from D&D, that i actively say wrong, and intend to keep saying differently than the majority of other people who might mention it, but i sit through a lot of LotR content, 40k content, and the like, and while I know some of those words are weird, and id love for the IP holder to publicly proclaim how we are to pronounce it; Roboute Guilliman, for instance, I just hate listening to some of those programs stilt through the content, saying words erong, or three different ways throughout the same video, leaving me wondering if the creator ever even listened to the end result video, before posting it, and decided that they were "okay" with the audio quality they had uploaded? There are several that I listen to, and have to weigh the options, because they might also just prattle out a script written by software that covbled together content from uother sources, or if it sounds like someone who actually cares, compiles their own words; maybe even tells me dpmething I HADN'T heard in four other videos, on the topic, but jyst in a synth voice, or if the entire content is synth? I like these less and less as i consume more of it.
We have so quickly proven that we cannot be anything but dangerously and harmfully irresponsible with generative AI. It needs to be banned and purged completely.
If the dumbass scammers on the phone aren't inherently evil for trying to eke out a living, then I'm not evil for stealing from Walmart. I'm also budgeting, man's gotta save money whenever possible, and my petty larceny won't make a dent in Walmart's fiscal reports. No harm done.
If they're as useless as it looks like they're gonna be, people aren't gonna watch. If people want to watch, they will. This is a self-correcting problem. And I say this very supportively, I genuinely love your content, not trying to argue or anything.
I was just watching a Blooms video on the same topic. They're profiting off of young children and gen x'ers. I know, my dad is one of them. Problem is... he is AWARE of it and he's IMPRESSED by it. 🤦
The irony. At 11:30 you were about to explain about how ads work for you, and I get a bs advert about a zombie survival game I’m never gonna play. In fact I keep blocking ads because of how irrelevant they are, but they keep serving me with even more shitty games I don’t want to play. Not like you. I actually like your content PK!
So if LESS people are working on their products they will charge LESS money... RIGHT??? lmfao. I warned everyone when hasbro bought it and the community laughed at and gaslit me.
Title : MtG Topic as the vid progresses : Ai shit content of a creator that has so threadbare a tie to mtg that it's not worth being in the title. Rating : Garbage. If you're gonna say "vid about mtg being slurried into ai slop"... maybe lead with something that's not a single instance of it for less than 3 minutes of a 14 minute vid. Telling us about spam without depth, is itself spam. We expect better of you Pleasant bro. Show us better.
I went into depth in the video, you moron, giving huge amounts of explanation as to why this is happening, and what the gameplan is. If you don't want to listen, then piss off.
As for harm it contributes to the ensh*tificaion of the internet. Just putting more junk into the space that can keep you from getting the thing you want. I wish there was a toggle for youtube search that would filter AI generated results from human generated results.
Ai isnt going anywhere. Ai is only going to get better over time to the point where you wont be able to tell if the video is ai. Its easy now cause of the early stages of ai content but once its perfected we wont have any choice but to accept it. You dont have to like it but it is what it is.
Not linking the content you're referring to? Sheesh, tacky... (I don't get how anyone falls for this stuff - wonder if it's actually the AI watching itself and giving itself a big ol' pat on the back)
@@PleasantKenobi You know full well that this title invokes the thought that WotC are using AI in their art, not about the prevalence of AI spam videos using MTG content. I agree though; it does deliver in the discussion of AI slop videos, but it feels like a bait and switch. One thing I will say is I never see any recommendations for that kind of video, as I usually block and report most AI slop that comes onto my feed. The algorithm knows I've had enough of hearing the fake Morgan Freeman narrator and the fake "Did you know..." woman.
I watch a lot of random stuff that I haven't seen before - found some real gems that way. But as soon as I hear AI voice, I click off and never go back.
No one is even watching these. I mean maybe a few hundred people accidentally click on it or get this slop shuffled into their queue. But the vast majority of views and likes and comments are AI. So yeah it’s just garbage feeding garbage and people are making money off of it. Reminds me of bots in old video games harming the game economy and people making real world money off of it
Can we please stop calling this crap AI? It has nothing to do with ai and it’s only marketing to call Midjourney/ChatGPT/whatever as intelligent. They are algorithm finding algorithms, which can be useful, but aren’t intelligent.
That’s part of the problem. It’s false advertisement. Artificial neurons are neurons in the same sense a crude drawing of a human is human. It has roughly the same shape, but is infinitely simpler. It is also confined not only by laws of mathematics, but also by our understanding of those laws. It can be useful, but selling it as intelligent system is far from the truth. It requires huge amount of human input to train - that’s where the actual intelligence can be found in those systems. Corporations sell it as AI, so that we will gasp from awe at, at its core, crappy generated content (CGC). The best way to counter that is to refuse to call it this way. And if we want to be nice, we can always say it stands for Computer Generated Content 😊.
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sure after I drop 100 jeganthas off at gamestop for grading so I can retire and grade pokemon energy(lands?) cards to create a penny(stocks?) grading market thats absolutely valid and fills a niche that totally needs filled.
Commie Commander here,
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TH-cam needs to finally crack down on content farms, especially since AI allows even more low-effort garbage to spam onto the platform.
They have to do something before it's too late and it's all bots, all AI TRASH.
The way it said mah nah and magic... ... ...the gathering took me out.
Why would they, it makes them too much money
@@astrowerm does it? What are you basing that on?
I found just the other day a whole TH-cam channel that was a cult run by Ai. It was called the galactic federation of light or GFL, and just posted Ai videos or images of aliens talking and pretended to be those aliens to thousands of people. Worse the comments were full of people praising them and thanking them.
Let's not forget the non-zero amount of energy and physical infrastructure needed to house that spam. That is certainly harm.
Not sure if youtube is bothered by this, they don't really care about the content as long as they get views
@@Parker2038true, but eventually people will start to get tired of it and move on. Obviously it wont be tomorrow but down the line it will happen
Oh won't someone think of the environment 😂
@@bounceday dude you literally need the environment to live.
We drift closer and closer to the dead internet theory being a way of life and not just a theory
Well the theory is that it has already happened and hence already the way we are living
"Is it harming anyone?"
Yes, it's harming the environment. It takes a significant amount of energy and carbon footprint to fulfill all these generative AI requests. This account along with the millions of other spam AI content farms contribute a lot to this environmental issue.
Indeed.
Hosting data on servers uses energy and ressources (videos are the heaviest of all, having visual and audio included), it is even worse for AI, as we also actively feed them information to make them better, and each learning task/query to create something uses additionnal energy.
AI is not a free ressource, to the point where microsoft is investing in nuclear energy in the prospect of having to produce an enormous amount of energy just to fuel their data centers.
Gen AI is theft in all its forms. The very act of using it causes harm. Even if they somehow fix the enviornmental damage (they won't) they can't sustain the system without stealing from real artists, writers, coders, voice actors, photographers, models and musicians.
100%
well nuclear is gonna be the future of energy if the world doesnt get their shit together and invest a bunch into actual renewable energy. But yea this sort of use for ai is just adding more slop to yt
@@sethadelman8 Nuclear was always going to be the future because its cheaper and easier. Corporations don't give a fuck about environmental damage, they just say they do to look good lmfao.
Imagine: right now rainforest is being cut down and oil wells are being drilled to power AIs that generate meaningless and unpleasing videos about MTG cards that literally zero human beings are actually ever going to watch. Now THAT'S efficiency, Baby! 🔥🔥🔥
Well when it drains money it'll stop
@@Psychonautical89like Twitter, Facebook, TH-cam, … you mean? No one cares about draining money as long as the shares go up.
The faceless AI videos already exist. The ones I see most often, and have the biggest dislike for, are the ones that take stories from Reddit (most often AskReddit) and just have the AI read, while they superimpose either Minecraft parkour stuff or those crafting videos. Sometimes they do it with text messages.
And it is only going to get worse.
The forest grows ever more dense, and I find it harder to find content like I did back in the 2010s naturally. I feel like the internet is eventually going to be too big and too full of just garbage.
Check out the 'dead internet theory'
also, "enshittification" and "shitflation"
I scream into the void, "Am I the engagement farm?"
No, we're the engagement crops
Being a terrible artist, now I can at least be proud that I make the stuff myself. 🙃
not for long unfortunately. a bot will scrape your music, feed it to llm, and continuously generated stream of sounds will be uploaded to a streaming service and content id service and said service will issue copyright strike on _your_ music because it sounds similar to what machine generated based on _your_ music... i really do not know we have any solution to this.
@@m1gr3nA thankfully for the time being AI content cannot be copyrighted but if that ever changes there is always the london greeting
@@sablesalt there is nothing stopping anyone from claiming to have copyright over material generated with llm even without any human modification of if after it was generated and the onus will be on you to prove insufficient modification to be copyrightable. in the meantime your content will be demonetized or taken down completely (worst case third strike and your channel disappears). and last but not least this is just usa ruling (i assume we are talking about the comic book case from last year and such) and it does not apply to other parts of the world, which from what i have heard is quite big. ;)
@@m1gr3nA I want to preform unlicensed surgery
This is a particularly bad AI channel, I've seen some damn convincing ones and that isn't even close. I have seen channels about motorsports which would definitely make you think twice if they were real or not. This one hasn't even followed the basic advice for any TH-camr, human or not, which is to pick a niche and stick in it. Just incredible scenes honestly, truly awful slop.
I suspect that's because they're not attempting to monetise the channel itself through the partner programme, but rather, entirely make money off of the Amazon links. Social Blade can't tell you that, it thinks I make £201 - £3.2K a month, but I make nothing, because I'm not in the partner programme because the partner programme has standards, and that channel would never meet them.
As for if this is hurting anyone? Yeah.
I am most of the way to having a masters in content creation, so these aren't the only issues but they are the ones I understand best. If an AI channel _is_ in the partner programme, it's hurting legitimate creators, firstly by taking a portion of TH-cam Premium money, which is pooled, which means the more of it that goes to these channels, the less goes to people that actually put in effort; and secondly it hurts the value of ads on the platform, companies are less likely to run ads if those are going to appear alongside this kind of slop. However even when they're not, any impression they get is one that a human created video doesn't, and that makes starting out just that little bit harder, and damn man, it's hard enough as it is to find any kind of traction here. Competing with this just means more people won't keep going long enough to make it, and that hurts TH-cam, it hurts TH-cam viewers, and it hurts the ecosystem of TH-cam creators.
I imagine even Seth, probably better known as Saffron Olive, would be put off by AI generated pronunciation of Magic content.
I heard this sentence.
This is a youtube problem as a whole I recently learned that a tuber that I follow was nothing more then a bot but until that came to light the youtuber got 380k subscribers for Southpark content.
ceric artman??
I dont understand why so many ppl were watching south park episode recaps regardless of quality. let alone ai ones.
Ah, Ceric Artman. Never liked that channel, watched one video and it was weird. Decided not to engage further, then saw the Blooms video calling them out.
Which basically means that bot-generated rip-off content was good enough to grab and hold your attention. This stuff gets made for a reason ;)
This has really infiltrated some of the warhammer space already, seeing channels like DBPreacherPlays which are entirely AI Generated
Warhammer fans are more likely to hoover the slop up, honestly. Shameful.
@@PleasantKenobi which is kind of odd to me. You'd think Warhammer fans would understand why it's important to do art by hand because they spend so much time painting miniatures. Think of how much less interesting Warhammer would be if your opponent didn't include gross little details on their Nurgle or if every Space Marine had identical weathering on their armor.
The solution is simple: bring back the dislike button.
feelsbad when the AI slop channel has more subs than a lot of people that make actual content
nontent is very good description- I like it:) great video as per usual. thank you
The short feed for me here on TH-cam is nothing but TV show clips, comic book summaries and ripped reels & TikToks. With almost no original content. It’s a little frustrating to go through.
I would go out on a limb and say there's not even a person behind this channel and the 'review' was scraped from some other site. Through RPA it's quite easy to automate clicks like uploading images
There will be a person who set this up. They are doing this all automated to make some amount of quick/easy money. They may have never saw what the video was about, or anything like that, but there is a person at the end of it all.
@@PleasantKenobi most of their subscribers and views probably come from other click/view bots. I can easily see someone with a good set up simply automate making the videos, automate liking/viewing on another computer and self monetize
I'm really looking forward to the PK roast when wotc inevitably starts utilizing AI for card art, key set art, or whatever else they can't be bothered to pay artists livable wages for.
Didn't they already do this for DND?
@@fasterbuilder11yup WOTC has used artists that have used AI to generate art.
"Magic... The Gathering..."
Cursed.
TH-cam is littered with garbage text-to-speech vids like that. Look how many of those are "No views" - it's attempting (badly) to become a content farm. They'd be better off stealing TikToks.
Anyone remember TH-cam before Google got a hold of it? Miss those days. Only going to get worse folks.
It isn't Googles fault this technology was coming no matter what
Meh, sure it had its fun moments but let's not go too hard on the rose-tinted nostalgic look back. There were still plenty of problems with it back then.
Eg. viewbotting/viewhacking was rampant in those days in order to get onto the Most Viewed pages (this was back when you could just keep auto-refreshing a video and have it count as a view each time). Or do many other things trying to game the system.
@@TheEvolver311 Its their fault for taking the soul out of yt, and promoting the garbage that they do now..
@@VashStarwind people want to watch garbage same then as now
People just do it to get by, but are very insincere, and not real like TH-cam used to be, to 'Broadcast yourself'.
I think the same is true with sponsorships most people take. It's blatantly obvious while peddling some VPN on a channel with zero relation to the topic, or inserting a sponsor for a mattress or whatever else.
Personally, I do not respect it, the same way you wouldn't respect someone putting that amazon affiliate in that bio.
I think youtube is pretty damn bad now, I use it less and less. I foresee leaving the platform soon enough.
A few good science youtubers keep me hanging on, just barely.
I remember a few months ago listening to music on my phone (notably I'm not logged into google on my phone) and the third video in the recommendations was always ai music with tens of views. I get less ai recommendations nowadays so maybe youtube has figured out nobody wants this slop, but for a good while the algorithm was really pushing ai content. It's annoying cuz ai feels like something you have to opt out of, you gotta tell youtube 'don't recommend these channels' multiple times before it stops shoving slop onto you.
At least on the plus side for mtg anything that is not Universes Beyond should be next to impossible for the AI text to speech to say correctly if the card has any plane specific naming
I am just waiting for people to see the name and think WotC is using AI.
The thumb/title implied it. Is this the content farm? 😂
That's the dream for them: Unlimited artwork, without having to pay any pesky, ungrateful (their sentiment, not mine) artists for it. Imagine the endless deluge of product they could print if they could get away with it. 😐 And I wouldn't ever put it past them given their recent history.
@@kozad86 The thumb and title implied no such thing. "MTG content" is not MTG.
@@dpv007 I find it hard to be that pessimistic. WOTC has already said multiple times they wont (intentionally) use AI art for their products, and while I wont give the multi-billion dollar corporation too much credit, I do kinda buy that. Games like Magic are at the end of the day a luxury product like most forms of art, where its literal function isn't the thing that derives its actual value. Luxury products get their value by selling you on the amount of work that went into making them, which Magic is really leaning into with all of the various art treatments and foilings and such of their cards. They go out of their way to try and avoid seeming cheap, and the various posts their artists make showing their process for the pieces that go into the game are functionally more advertising. They've also cut ties with the individual artists that snuck AI art past them already, and makes sense purely from a financial standpoint. The artists are paid on commission, likely for a full original piece, so I doubt the company is happy to hear the artist is taking shortcuts and delivering a product that, thanks to how laws about AI art work right now, they might not actually have the copyright to.
Dont get me wrong, Hasbro is stupid and I wouldn't put it past them to make a very dumb decision, but I'm skeptical when the art IS THE PRODUCT. Of all the corners that can be cut, its one of the least feasible ones to. It would be like a jewlery store deciding to sell only brass bands because they're technically rings. Yeah, they're far cheaper, and I could propose to someone with one, but its not what anyone is in the market for.
@@dpv007it has already began and we have had confirmation from a few artists that quit over it.
It's like this was written for someone who doesn't know what Magic is but also why would someone who doesn't know what Magic is care about Jegantha to begin with?
You cast a wide net to catch the most fish
It's because jegantha gets mentioned a lot due to being in many decks, then input cards text into the ai and asking it analyze why such a card is good causes it spew a bunch of generalized nonsense since most mtg knowledge is about the basics.
It's not able to comprehend that everything of interest about the card has to do with the other cards in deck
Ladies and gentleman, the Dead Internet Therory is real.
How much you want to bet the course on how to start a faceless TH-cam channel was also AI generated?! 😂
I don't think this is the first AI Magic video. I've seen a few AI TH-cam shorts about Magic
It’s not even WOTC official was caught using AI slop on instagram. Honestly at what point of saturation will it take until people turn away from social media platforms altogether is the more interesting question
@@biotopebiologist5030 I don't think you would like the answer. I've seen some AI stuff get a lot of positive comments engagement from people who clearly don't know it's AI and probably wouldn't care even if they did. These people are a corporation's dream. People who will consume the sloppiest content they can create for free. I've also seen some mtg artwork on cards that is obviously AI generated although it could just be individual artists secretly using AI and WotC may not know.
But my suspicion is the complete opposite. I believe that WotC have developed a model like Midjourney trained on their vast catalogue of artwork and they are generating backgrounds for the artists to use. The background art in nearly every set since Murders at Karlov Manor has been very suspicious. If WotC thought artists might use AI, they would want it to be trained on their own artwork to achieve the best results so why not get ahead of the trend and build a model.
Look at lofi music with ai thumbnails
I generally block AI channels, websites, and accounts; I even report them if I suspect they ripped off from another creator.
JJJacksfilms has really been going hard on his videos tearing into spam and faceless youtube channels lately, in addition to his content calling out channels that steal content for reaction content but don't do anything but sit there and watch the content or laugh.
Sure, it's not just kids, and could well be old people too.
But all this low-effort shit has a following. "Calling them out" is pointless, because it's not like people get cheated. They watch and they enjoy what they watch enough to come back for more, at least for a while.
The AI Plague has arrive everywhere! The end of days is close!
I really really really really really really really liked the analogy about avoiding giving it air and letting it suffocate....... Call me a violent person, but that was super satisfying to hear
Even if it is less than Pennie’s per ad -> so here’s another ad
Hey there. I have been using an AI speech to text program to make video shorts content for my pokemon tcg channel, using my own written scripts, about my favorite tcg sub format, GLC which is very similar to EDH. I started using it when I lost my voice to a cold, but I've kept using it because it's much better voice quality then my crappy microphone and voice and makes it easier for me to make the content I want to make, though I still record my own voice for my longer gameplay videos. I also spend a lot of time, up to 3 hours per short, not just editing the videos, but rewriting, regenning, and editing the voice so that it has a more natural sounding cadence to it.
I don't do it to farm views, I'm barely able to make 2 shorts a week between my IRL dad/employee responsibilities, but it allows me to make the content I want to make with my restrictions. I will often watch and rewatch the shorts I make because I enjoy them.
Am I doing something bad?
I'd say AI voice is the least offensive use of AI in content creation, hell there are so many useful how-to videos out there that are just hard to watch because people speak through their nose or hardly know english, that would be better with an AI voice. I just hope there'll be enough variety, cause the "ultra masculine movie trailer voice" is already overused and annoying.
Yes. AI is awful for the environment. Even the AI voices, which have stolen from other people and other VAs, are bad. Especially regenerating it constantly to sound different? It is ethically unacceptable because of the damage it does to the planet.
Also, whenever I or most people see a short with an AI voice, we just scroll past it. It always gives the impression of low effort. No one wants to waste their time with it. So if you want to grow, you have to use a real voice
Yes. Using AI is an energy waste and stealing to even a minor extent as it can't cite things or make original content. Only rewrite what it's already seen.
If I hear AI voices I just click off. Your videos could be well-scripted and informative but the vast, vast majority of videos that use AI voices are just completely horrible. I don't want to waste time so I just don't watch videos that use AI voices. For every one that is actually interesting there are a thousand that are unwatchable.
But I don't want that to be discouraging because I think there is actually an unfilled niche with GLC content on TH-cam. Outside of Andrew at Tricky Gym who created the format and his friend Morse who helps him collect data, I can think of maybe 2 GLC creators. 1 of them doesn't upload consistently and the other only makes GLC videos every now and then and is more dedicated to collecting. There just isn't a dedicated GLC channel on TH-cam from what I have seen, which sucks because I think it's a super fun format. If you got an entry-level recording setup, I think you are probably close to having a really cool TH-cam channel. You've already practiced video editing and script writiting, so it really is just the audio you need to learn.
I don't make TH-cam videos but I am a music producer. I'd recommend looking at Shure microphones (the SM7B is the industry standard but the SM57 or SM58 with a pop filter would be perfectly fine) and Focusrite Scarlet interfaces (You can get whatever you want but you don't need more than the 4i4 to start, just make sure it has at least 1 mic preamp and and XLR input) and you can get a setup that's 95% as good as a professional setup for $300-500. Audacity is a free program to edit audio, but I'm sure whatever you use to edit videos also has something to work with audio. Recording audio can be intimidating and listening to yourself talk is awkward, but it is totally worth it for how much it can improve your videos.
Again, don't get discouraged by us hating AI. You have a really good idea for a TH-cam channel and in my opinion you should keep working on it, just using your voice.
Yes. Knock it off please.
The thing I don't like is the A.I. powered ads on TH-cam.
It’s unfortunately been taking over all the proxy markets online since day one. AI is a problem for everything.
Side note, just finished Yellowjackets. Fantastic show
So good. Really excited for Season 3.
Coming soon to the cards themselves!
I'm not convinced that The Mana Logs isn't ai generated. It feels very much ai.
No, but he doesn't actually play mtg from my understanding, he hires others to write the scripts for him for mtg stuff. He does play yugioh and got started with his main channel the duel logs
If I didn't have the inspiration to make videos about the cards I love, this has been one. The AI voice has always bothered me.
At least we're getting more variety now. That robotic British man voice used to be everywhere and it would drive me crazy.
@@siukong I recorded the audio last night. I hoe to have it up later today.
When I started playing in 2002, I was drawn in by the artwork. It is what still drives my interest in Magic. Once card art becomes AI slop, I am out for good.
"TH-cam's great for finding tutorials for, I don't know, changing a lightbulb."
Which really begs the question: how many content creators does it take to change a lightbulb?
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As Count Dooku once said: "This is just the beginning!" Eventually WotC will have AI Art for cards that gets reviewed by AI lol
Gotta say I completely stopped watching shorts because AI nonsense ends up being 90% of the content the second you scroll past what you actually clicked on.
Do i need AI to understand what Vince is saying? Yes...
8:27 12 bucks and i can learn how to destroy youtube?!?! What a deal. Off to make 8000 youtube accounts that automatically make new videos every 10 minutes
6:03 authentic reaction thumbnail face
The only ai that should be involved with mtg is the good old "choose target creature" type that makes sure to tell you everything is still a land.
Imagine if the channel reviews pleasantkenobi lol 😂
AI is wasting huge amount of energy because it's an extremely and convoluted DB essentially. This shit is killing us.
No, every one of us should report that crap as spam, or offensive, or whatever else you feel applies. Report it. Sure, they may shrug off a few reports. Report it! But when a massive amount of the people who watch these videos keep reporting them as spam, TH-cam will have to respond. So, REPORT IT!
You nailed it, it does hurt real people. Real artist on youtube, giving us their art and these AI channels are taking from the giant pot. And it's only going to get much much worse as AI get much more powerful :(.
-CC
@PleasantKenobi Thank you for your opinion. I like your new word for that - nontent is exactly what it is.
All those videos have no views. I think we’re safe
fortunately youtube seems to be taking ai spam seriously and will limit channels that upload a video (not shorts) more than once a day...
Magic the dumbening
Magic Enshitification
Based on the history of that channel being live since 2008 but not uploading until recently, I'd wager that it's a hacked account where it was stolen, gutted, rebranded, and the flooded with this crap instead.
Any videos like this you can report as spam. Jacksfilms has also been calling out this crap on his secondary channel too, it’s an increasing problem and we should stand up to it. It seems harmless but it really isn’t!
Magic simply isn’t a game you can love for anything other than gameplay. Not anymore. They’ve assassinated the artistry entirely. It is imminent that official arts will be predominantly ai. We likely aren’t all that far away from basic card templates being ai generated and then just touched up by designers.
Magic
: .... .... .... The gathering
AI will kill humanity. Not like The Terminator franchise but deep inside our souls. This new era makes me so sad.
If I want virtual stuff, I play video games. But the rest of the time, I need a real world with real people. Fake is the new Vibe... And don't launch me on art(work), music,...
It’s one farm feeding another. TH-cam to Amazon. All of it is garbage. You, however, are great, for sharing this!
Honestly. The AI slop especially like this is worse than spamming the site when you also consider the ecological impact all these layers of generative AI are having. The energy demands for this garbage content are insane and undoing every bit of progress we had made as humanity to reduce greenhouse gasses
AI will continue to deliver groupthink slop until the day they rise up and destroy their creators.
As just one yutz who watches a lot of TH-cam, but rarely buys anything through it, I think the biggest problem I have with this is the dialog. I can accept that some people don't want to record their own voices; maybe they believe their own voice wouldn't sell well, or mesh with their market. Why do 40k content with your girly voice, when you can make it sound like David Attenborough, doing an historical review, but the thing that annoys me most is how choppy, and inaccurate, the voicing is? Now, I KNOW that there are a couple of words i might say wrong. I can think of one, from D&D, that i actively say wrong, and intend to keep saying differently than the majority of other people who might mention it, but i sit through a lot of LotR content, 40k content, and the like, and while I know some of those words are weird, and id love for the IP holder to publicly proclaim how we are to pronounce it; Roboute Guilliman, for instance, I just hate listening to some of those programs stilt through the content, saying words erong, or three different ways throughout the same video, leaving me wondering if the creator ever even listened to the end result video, before posting it, and decided that they were "okay" with the audio quality they had uploaded? There are several that I listen to, and have to weigh the options, because they might also just prattle out a script written by software that covbled together content from uother sources, or if it sounds like someone who actually cares, compiles their own words; maybe even tells me dpmething I HADN'T heard in four other videos, on the topic, but jyst in a synth voice, or if the entire content is synth? I like these less and less as i consume more of it.
We have so quickly proven that we cannot be anything but dangerously and harmfully irresponsible with generative AI. It needs to be banned and purged completely.
If the dumbass scammers on the phone aren't inherently evil for trying to eke out a living, then I'm not evil for stealing from Walmart. I'm also budgeting, man's gotta save money whenever possible, and my petty larceny won't make a dent in Walmart's fiscal reports. No harm done.
Walmart is a billion dollar corporation, whilst phone scammers are stealing from struggling families and normal people.
Absolutely huge ethical gap.
It sucks that there may come a time when people will only watch/read/enjoy content created before 2019.
unprincipled take.
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I almost unsubscribed from YT because of having to block so many AI slop channels. It's seriously annoying.
If they're as useless as it looks like they're gonna be, people aren't gonna watch. If people want to watch, they will. This is a self-correcting problem.
And I say this very supportively, I genuinely love your content, not trying to argue or anything.
I agree. I just thought the internal machinations of the people behind this was an interesting thing to shed light on.
@PleasantKenobi Yeah it feels like there's never a shortage of people looking for the easy get rich quick scheme.
why review these crappy ai channels? there has got to be channels using up-to-date technology; all of these are just hacks using last years gear.
Laughable.
I was just watching a Blooms video on the same topic. They're profiting off of young children and gen x'ers. I know, my dad is one of them. Problem is... he is AWARE of it and he's IMPRESSED by it. 🤦
Gen X’ers have some kind of weird fascination with creating and consuming AI swill, I swear.
So, that explains why Auspex Tactics is able to make so many Warhammer videos.
(I’m kidding of course)
He's a PowerPoint pro!
The irony. At 11:30 you were about to explain about how ads work for you, and I get a bs advert about a zombie survival game I’m never gonna play. In fact I keep blocking ads because of how irrelevant they are, but they keep serving me with even more shitty games I don’t want to play.
Not like you. I actually like your content PK!
Perfect timing. 🤣
So if LESS people are working on their products they will charge LESS money... RIGHT??? lmfao. I warned everyone when hasbro bought it and the community laughed at and gaslit me.
Hasbro bought Wizards a decade ago, and this has nothing to do with that? Are you a bot?
Between stuff like this and the Russian propaganda seeping into my sidebar, TH-cam's getting (gotten?) pretty grim.
Title : MtG
Topic as the vid progresses : Ai shit content of a creator that has so threadbare a tie to mtg that it's not worth being in the title.
Rating : Garbage.
If you're gonna say "vid about mtg being slurried into ai slop"... maybe lead with something that's not a single instance of it for less than 3 minutes of a 14 minute vid.
Telling us about spam without depth, is itself spam.
We expect better of you Pleasant bro. Show us better.
I went into depth in the video, you moron, giving huge amounts of explanation as to why this is happening, and what the gameplan is.
If you don't want to listen, then piss off.
@@PleasantKenobi a single card does not make a "mtg is getting ai slogged!"
I make a policy of not watching any video wit procedurally gen'd thumbnails. I just don't do it.
I think this is only problem for Google servers
Technically this is banned by the reused and repetitive content rules
And its only going to get worse if the muskboi fandom gets their way
As for harm it contributes to the ensh*tificaion of the internet. Just putting more junk into the space that can keep you from getting the thing you want. I wish there was a toggle for youtube search that would filter AI generated results from human generated results.
I like my magic slop lovingly created by humans. Click baiting humans, sure. But human. Mostly human. Human adjacent at least.
Ai isnt going anywhere. Ai is only going to get better over time to the point where you wont be able to tell if the video is ai. Its easy now cause of the early stages of ai content but once its perfected we wont have any choice but to accept it. You dont have to like it but it is what it is.
Sure thing, buddy.
Once they start putting AI in the cards, that's when i stop collecting.
Not linking the content you're referring to? Sheesh, tacky... (I don't get how anyone falls for this stuff - wonder if it's actually the AI watching itself and giving itself a big ol' pat on the back)
Love the clickbait title. Good job.
It's only clickbait if it isn't delivered upon. This delivers.
@@PleasantKenobi You know full well that this title invokes the thought that WotC are using AI in their art, not about the prevalence of AI spam videos using MTG content. I agree though; it does deliver in the discussion of AI slop videos, but it feels like a bait and switch.
One thing I will say is I never see any recommendations for that kind of video, as I usually block and report most AI slop that comes onto my feed. The algorithm knows I've had enough of hearing the fake Morgan Freeman narrator and the fake "Did you know..." woman.
AI has access from tournament results. AI can't give originality!
2024: AI created MTG content
2030: AI created MTG cards
There’s a part of me that loves the slop philosophy of, instead of making 1 video that gets 1 million views, make 1 million videos that get 1 view lol
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I watch a lot of random stuff that I haven't seen before - found some real gems that way. But as soon as I hear AI voice, I click off and never go back.
Whatever spam-as-a-service org is behind that channel probably has 100 such channels all pulling in some marginal revenue.
No one is even watching these. I mean maybe a few hundred people accidentally click on it or get this slop shuffled into their queue. But the vast majority of views and likes and comments are AI. So yeah it’s just garbage feeding garbage and people are making money off of it. Reminds me of bots in old video games harming the game economy and people making real world money off of it
I mean, AI is a tool. Tool can be used for good or for bad. This one is more for bad.
Can we please stop calling this crap AI? It has nothing to do with ai and it’s only marketing to call Midjourney/ChatGPT/whatever as intelligent.
They are algorithm finding algorithms, which can be useful, but aren’t intelligent.
It's what they are selling it as, and claiming will change the future.
It's AI.
That’s part of the problem. It’s false advertisement. Artificial neurons are neurons in the same sense a crude drawing of a human is human. It has roughly the same shape, but is infinitely simpler. It is also confined not only by laws of mathematics, but also by our understanding of those laws.
It can be useful, but selling it as intelligent system is far from the truth. It requires huge amount of human input to train - that’s where the actual intelligence can be found in those systems.
Corporations sell it as AI, so that we will gasp from awe at, at its core, crappy generated content (CGC). The best way to counter that is to refuse to call it this way.
And if we want to be nice, we can always say it stands for Computer Generated Content 😊.