No. There were 2 fouls anyway. #70 reported as eligible but lined up at right tackle. But was covered up by the TE. Which is an illegal formation. Even if the #68 penalty wasn't called, there was an illegal formation penalty which also would have had the exact same result
What they were trying to do was confuse Dallas by sending three lineman to the referee at the same time and only have one of them report eligible to try to confuse them. What ended up happening is the wrong player reported and the lions screwed that up
Pretty obvious 68 never reported. That’s why they called the penalty. That’s why the cowboys didn’t cover 68. Closed loop communication would have prevented this.
What about the tripping call that was called on the wrong team right before this possession. It was the defense that clearly had committed the penalty… at the point dallas would just need knees to end the game and this play would have never happened. So y’all would have lost either way.
The refs should be fined and or suspended from crappy calls. Do we really need them with all the technology available for reviewing plays. Let the guys in the booth do it.
Lmao how did they get cheated? The ref announced the player and the Lion's didn't correct them. The Lions screwed themselves after the refs tried to give them the game on a platter. They got them the ball backs and then the Lions totally butchered the 2 point conversion. Bad coaching and not clutch play
Not true at all one play doesn't represent the outcome of the game. Lions should've kicked the field goal and went into overtime they 2 chances to do so. Also they missed a tripping call on Hutchison and Lions gave up 92 yard touchdown when it should've been a safety plus the call isn't exactly wrong
The NFL schedule is predetermined EVERY year. It's literally set every year - on into infinity. You play 6 games against your division. You rotate playing a different inter-conference division each year. You also rotate playing a different out of conference division each year. You then play one team from each of the other two inter-conference divisions - which will be matched up by your placing in your divisions the season prior. Now, with the added 17th game. You rotate through out of conference divisions. Playing a game with a team from that division - matched up by your placing in each of your divisions the year prior. This is the type of stuff you have to explain to people who think the league is "rigged" lmao.
After what happen to the ineligible play, the Lions should’ve just kick the extra point and went into overtime. Going for 2 in that situation seems like they have nothing to lose and they pretty much lost themselves the opportunity to get the 1 seed.
@aresgodofwar2336 If it's rigged, why did the same refs literally give them a 3rd chance after a pick from Parsons, thus giving them yet another try. 😂 Lions made many mistakes this game that cost them. It's not ALL the refs fault.
@@aresgodofwar2336 70 also reported and lined up making the point irrelevant and the play illigal regardless if 68 reported. additionally the call of tripping shown that they made up a imaginary player and penalty before hand to put lions down there to begin with.
@@aresgodofwar2336 lmao why would you think the game is rigged. The illegal touching call was the correct call because the Liond didn't correct the official when the official announced number 70 as eligible and not 68
If they said that the only reason 68 was there was to report as eligible. Why are 68, 58 and 70 all there around the official?? They all can't report as eligible. Bad coaching on the special teams!
Assuming they didn't actually report, it's one of the few times this penalty makes any sense. Otherwise, lineman down field is one of the dumbest penalties in football. NFL defenders are NOT IDIOTS; they know just cuz a lineman runs down field, it doesn't mean they have to be covered. The penalty should ONLY be called if they touch the ball. I see way too many great plays, especially runs, get called back cuz "lineman down field".
Go back and watch the video again... St Brown at the top of the screen (right side) is on the line and covering the left tackle (Skipper), you count him and the lineman on the line, and it's 7 (Decker is on the line on the left side), the receiver to Decker's left is off the line, along with the tight end/slot receiver between Skipper and St Brown, then Goff and our runningback... 7 on the line, and 4 in the backfield. Legal formation... only reason they are saying illegal formation is if Skipper was really the one that checked in as eligible, because he reported as eligible but was covered up by St Brown
Uhh there’s supposed to be exactly 7 men on the line of scrimmage every play. The 5 lineman plus 2 other players, whether they be TE, WR, or any other position like RB or QB, just has to be 7 total guys on the line. That’s why when a player on the line goes in motion, he first steps back then another player steps up to the line before he goes in motion.
Skipper did not report as eligible. 68 did. The reason they are saying illegal formation is because the ref got confused. Skipper never reported. The only thing Skipper done was make gestures to his teammates to let them know they were going to a Big 12 formation.
The ref looks Decker right in the face and Nods at him. He starts running away while Skipper is coming in! Why would a professional athlete, that knows he is going to be covered up on the line (Skipper) report as eligible??!! The ref messed it up, plain and simple
It doesn't really matter. The ref never announced to Dallas that 68 was eligible so the play could have never stood. One they had the mishap as announcing the wrong player as eligible the Lions would have had to correct them or 68nwould be ineligible. The rule book states the ref has to annouce the eligible receiver to the defense and that didn't happen. Not to mention yall got another try from the same spot and failed. You can't guarantee that if Dallas was told 68 was eligible that they wouldn't have guarded him and made the stop so you can't just say the Lions should have won
You can see the cowboys players looking to cover 70 who was announced as eligible. Lions thought they were cute but confused the ref and 70 ran on signaling he was reporting.
The formation is what screwed the Lions. Even if you report as eligible you have to line up correctly. There was a WR outside of 68 and one one the other end of the line. This caused 68 to be ineligible. The Lions needed another lineman on the inside of 68 or the WR to be in the backfield. The Lions screwed themselves and then Campbell had two chances after that. Since the first one wasn't executed correctly they should have played for overtime. This is what happens when you get locked on stupid.
Okay...so people are saying how he wasn't covered, can you help me understand him not being covered and why that would be a penalty? I've seen plenty of players not being covered and then catching the ball for a touchdown or a lot of yardage and it was just a blown coverage by the defense. What makes this different is it because he is a lineman ?
@@alanhobbs7360 The people saying he was ineligible 'because he wasn't covered' are wrong (covered, in this case, means that there is a teammate on the line of scrimmage outside of him. It has nothing to do with the defense.) So many people misunderstand eligibility. Covering him would make him ineligible, not eligible. (Also, ignore the OP -- what he said about formation was all wrong. The WR outside of 68 *was* in the backfield. This is why #68 was considered 'uncovered', which makes him eligible if he reports as such.) The formation was 100% legal and he was 'uncovered', as he ought to be; all that happened was the ref was confused - for some unknown reason - about who was reporting as eligible. That's all. Everyone is making far too much of it and adding a lot more confusion to an already misunderstood rule. The announcers didn't help, either, but they were confused 'in the moment' so it's somewhat forgivable.
@leomdk939 nah regardless he was lined up illegally. They sent 3 over to the ref. All 3 of those lines men couldn't be elliagble but they all run to the refs. They screwed themselves because they wanted to get an unfair advantage.
@@TheBathulk10 it was... the ref announced number 70 as eligible before the play. The Lions didn't correct the ref of the announcement was incorrect therefore it was the right call. The Lions and the refs both messed up. Either way the call didn't really effect the game so it doesn't matter. Had the Cowboys known who was eligible the outcome would have been different. You can't say the Lions got screwed when they are the ones that heard the refs say number 70 is eligible and did nothing before the play to tell them that it should be 68 not 70. Just bad coaching on the Lions part
@@TheBathulk10 it is 100% their job to make sure the right player gets reported because if not it is a penalty and the play is a illegal. The Lions messed up twice. Confusing the refs by sending multiple people over to the official and then not correcting the official when the ref announced the wrong name. The Lioms tried to be slick and cheat the rules but really they just hurt themselves. I don't know why their fans are making excuses for this stupidity and lack of good coaching
If the guy had successfully reported then they would have announced over the PA that he reported. That is required by rule. So before he even lined up, he knew he had not reported.
It really doesn't matter what a guy set up in a booth on a microphone that was watching the game. What matters is who reported as eligible. Number 70 had reported eligible several times earlier in the game. This time number 58 and number 68 walked over to the ref and 68 reported as eligible. You can see the ref walking away from the huddle up with those two guys and 70 is walking toward it he had never even talked to the ref at that point.
Lmao you are literally saying the opposite of the truth. It doesn't matter who reports all that matters is who the ref announces to the defense as eligible. They told the defense that 70 reported before the play which is required by the NFL rule book. The Lions should have then told the ref that they wanted number 68 instead of 70 so they could announce that to the Cowboys. The Lions failed to alert the ref that he announced the wrong number therefore it is definitely on the Lions. They screwed themselves. They just weren't paying attention in a clutch moment
Why is everyone talking about "Detroit getting screwed?" Why is no one talking about ------> Officials missed tripping call before Lions' controversial penalty ByADAM SCHEFTER December 31, 2023, 11:09 AM A missed call late in Saturday night's game between the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys led to an even higher-profile error in what has escalated into the latest and most egregious example that the NFL has an officiating issue. The latest controversy surrounding referee Brad Allen and his officiating crew -- involving an overturned 2-point conversion by the Lions -- may have been avoided if not for another missed call on the Cowboys' previous possession. Allen's officiating crew is expected to be downgraded, which will influence whether those officials are chosen for the postseason. The Cowboys owned a 17-13 lead when they intercepted Jared Goff at the Lions' 29-yard line with 2:05 remaining. Tony Pollard's 7-yard run on the ensuing play was called back after Dallas tight end Peyton Hendershot was called for tripping, and the Cowboys faced a first-and-25 on the Lions' 44. Video of that initial first-down play, reviewed by ESPN, showed that Lions defensive end Aidan Hutchinson -- not Hendershot -- should have been the one flagged for attempting to trip Pollard. The NFL has not commented on the tripping call mistake as of Sunday morning. A penalty against the Lions on that play would have set up the Cowboys with a first down after the two-minute warning and a chance to run more of the clock while forcing the Lions to use their remaining timeouts.
They guy saying "it's ineligible man, it's illegal touching, it's illegal formation" is a rule analysis why is everyone ignoring the fact they could've called 3 different penalties
Play was legal he was just saying shit. It was legal, they’ve ran this before and gotten called with the same thing, they wouldn’t make the same mistake again 2 weeks later. The ref fucked it
@@Just_Ryn0 if 68 was eligible he has to be naked on the left side... has to be the last man over there and he wasn't as there was a wr on his left. Doesnt matter if the wr was on the line of scrimmage or not the wr needed to be lined up clearly inside decker's left shoulder and the only way he can do that is to be behind him
The Lions confused the wrong person. I know they confused Dallas, but they also confused the official by having three guys go toward the official when they only needed one and confusion creates errors, plain and simple.
@@TheBathulk10 yeah and the Lions should have corrected the officials when they announced the wrong number to the Cowboys. The Lions dropped the ball during the 2 point conversion and it is funny watching everyone make excuses. The ref announces the eligible receiver on a PA system right next to both teams. If it was the wrong player then all they had to do is correct the official before the play started and they failed to do that
For all of you, who don’t realize what the lions were trying to do answer me , this why did they send three lineman to the referee when only one of them was going to be reporting eligible? 🤔 2 lineman from the huddle and number 70 came from the sideline and they all met at the referee. What they were trying to do was confuse Dallas by having one of those three report eligible so they didn’t know who to cover . What ended up happening is the Lions confused themselves and the wrong guy reported to the official.
Decker was the only one who reported. Sewell and Skipper were indeed there as decoys but Decker was the only one who actually reported. The refs screwed up, not the Lions
@@ZachPfeiffer yeah but the cowboys would have had no idea so it would have been even more unfair to the cowboys to let the play stand - whereas to call the penalty at least gives both teams a fair chance
@@cdngravy844 it's more unfair to let the play stand for 15 seconds and then throw the flag. It's a trick play. The whole point is that 58 and 70 are there as a distraction. Dan Campbell specifically went over that play with the refs before the game and got the ok from them. Then they change their minds because it would cost Dallas the game.
Unfortunate call, ref looked 68 in the face as well as the two other linemen around him. Refs should let the players just play effing football, but you reap what you sow Detroit, you ended up tricking the ref. Alas the lions wouldn't even be in that position if Dallas didn't literally throw the game away in your favor the drive earlier.
Thats not true the ref see 70 coming in and his doing the motion that he is eligible and completely ignores 70 who is also doing the motion. Also he announce #70 to everyone yet lions didn't correct the ref. I am not a cowboys fan nor a lions fan sure this very controversial but refs got it right
Decker was covered up on the play, which makes him ineligible to catch the ball. Look at 0:00 of the tape. Decker is clearly covered up by a WR. Disagree we should let plays play while ignoring the rules.
@@pbewared9540 how did the lions fuck up when they did exactly as they were supposed to and it was on the ref who didnt make sure he made the right call
@@vger9186 the wr on Decker's left does not appear to be on the line of scrimmage, if I am reading the rule correctly that wr can't be outside Decker's left shoulder on the line or behind the line, he has to be lined up clearly inside decker's left shoulder and the only way to do that is to be in the backfield his left foot inside of decker's left foot.
@@vger9186 Looking at it again I think you're correct. It looks like the NFL rule is different in that you're off the line if you're one yard behind the LOS when the ball is snapped.
@@billsmith8322 No one. My fault. Looking at it again I think you're correct. It looks like the NFL rule is different in that you're off the line if you're one yard behind the LOS when the ball is snapped.
Just ditch the whole tackle-eligible silliness altogether. It's not necessary. It's weird. It's gimmicky and stupid. No one's offense relies on it and it's mostly just used to trick the defense into leaving someone uncovered rather than actually outplaying them. Just make it the rule that tackles are never eligible, no matter what. The rules are complex enough and tackle-eligible is such a dumb, unneeded monkey wrench.
no dog in this fight. how is this controversial? The rule states that only ONE team member (jersey number 50-79) can be declared eligible in any given play. The refs HAVE to advise the defense so campbell or any coach can't pull a fast one. Campbell and/or his team members don't know the rules? or 70 ran in pretending that he wanted to be eligible while 68 whispered into the refs ear....again, the ref HAS to advise the defense which team member has been declared eligible. The NFL is now making sure teams are clear on this tackle eligible rule. Don't get me wrong there has been some pretty poor officiating this year and refs have been brutal for years. Watch one of the worst non calls ever that kept the saints out of the superbowl a few years ago. Officiating stinks. But don't throw them under the bus for this one. bad coaching is to blame. and consider if 68 were eligible maybe Dallas would have been smart enough to prevent the 2 point conversion? Live and learn. move on. they messed up. and Det could have kicked extra point providing an opportunity to win in OT but Campbell wanted to be the hero and go for the win.
The thing about bad calls is, if you look across the field, its not a bad call. Coach should have just kicked instead of complicating things. That one play didn't lose the game
@@paulhileman3300no the game wasn't over. The wrong player reported so either it was the ref or the Lions but before the play they only announced 70 as eligible. Lions should have heard this and corrected him if so
No. There were 2 fouls anyway. #70 reported as eligible but lined up at right tackle. But was covered up by the TE. Which is an illegal formation. Even if the #68 penalty wasn't called, there was an illegal formation penalty which also would have had the same result
@@glsgls1045 No, that only applies if #70 was the one that reported as eligible, if #68 reported as eligible like they are saying, and like you can see at the end of the video, then there are no fouls/penalties at all
@chrishoffman6396 he ran at the ref from the sideline with his right hand at his chest. If you don't want to be mistaken for reporting, don't RUN AT THE REF DOING THE SIGNAL FOR REPORTING 😆 then be like we'll that's not what I MEANT 😂 the ref announced him as eligible. There were multiple flags on the field and the ref stated afterward that yes the other flag was for illegal formation.
Don't they need to report it to the ref and other team ? Anyway, should have kicked the extra point. Analytics = biggest scam going. What ever happened to common sense!!!
Offense reports to the Ref, the Ref lets the Defense know (and its usually announced, and if it was announced that 70 was eligible, then someone from the Lions should have heard it and corrected it)
A lot of people here don't realize that in no situation could they have counted the 2 ppint conversion. The refs announced before the play that 70 reported. So rather they reported wrong or the Lions did. You can not penalize the Cowboys because they were told that number 70 reported so automatically nobody would even consider covering 68 because it was never announced by the official thatbhe was eligible before the play. So either you blame the refs or the lions but no way can you say the Lions should have won because the Cowboys were never told that 68 reported. Also, lets not act like the Lions didnt get gifted a call right before this
By having #58, 68 and 70 all go to the ref, the Lions were obviously trying to confuse Dallas as to who was going to be eligible. This is bad sportsmanship because the rule about reporting as eligible is designed specifically to prevent this confusion. They aren't supposed to get that advantage. I'm glad it backfired on them. Sportsmanship should still matter.
@@Thinkinator323Yeah, I know they do, but it's still an attempt to trick Dallas rather than outplay them. In the heat of the moment, it's easy to miss the refs telling you which combination of ineligible numbers is now eligible (as in: "Hey, did the ref say 68 and 70? Or did he say 58 and 70?)" . Detroit was trying to pull a fast one. Why do you think they sent 3 guys to talk to the refs when only 2 will be eligible? Why do you think both68 and 58 were there, when 58 wasn't reporting? Then they're wondering why the refs got confused, too? Serves em right. They got too deceptive for their own good.
I don’t care who reported as what. I’m not really a fan of either team, but 68 was clearly lined up in the left tackle position next to the left guard. An extra lineman lined up outside the tacklebox can be eligible but needs to be reported. But linemen within the tacklebox can’t be eligible no matter what they report.
Football gods got it right.. Dallas lost first round Detroit won first round.
This cost Philly the division
@@Chices-fo6oh Philly wasn’t going to do shit against that hot Green Bay team either.
And then Detroit got sent home
Yeah but Detroit choked in SF on their own, not at the mercy of the refs. GB obliterated an overrated Dallas team
@@brycejacobsen9613 Like sf choked in The Super Bowl. Detroit lost because their coach thinks going for it on 4th down is a game of Madden
Can't have shit in Detroit, they done stole my 2PT conversion.😭😭😭
Dallas lost three straight weeks 😂😂😂😂 Refs ripped them out of that L by Detroit
@Chices-fo6oh No they didn't, there was a phantom tripping called on Cowboys that even gave the lions this play. Should have never happened.
I think the Lions should've won this game. 68 reported as eligible.
No. There were 2 fouls anyway. #70 reported as eligible but lined up at right tackle. But was covered up by the TE. Which is an illegal formation. Even if the #68 penalty wasn't called, there was an illegal formation penalty which also would have had the exact same result
Yeah
What they were trying to do was confuse Dallas by sending three lineman to the referee at the same time and only have one of them report eligible to try to confuse them. What ended up happening is the wrong player reported and the lions screwed that up
Pretty obvious 68 never reported. That’s why they called the penalty. That’s why the cowboys didn’t cover 68. Closed loop communication would have prevented this.
What about the tripping call that was called on the wrong team right before this possession. It was the defense that clearly had committed the penalty… at the point dallas would just need knees to end the game and this play would have never happened. So y’all would have lost either way.
The refs should be fined and or suspended from crappy calls. Do we really need them with all the technology available for reviewing plays. Let the guys in the booth do it.
And it finally happened
Except it was a good call
The ref ran away! Total BS!!
Yeah because he saw 70 report
And Decker was covered up on the p lay, making him ineligible. New to the NFL?
The lions clearly got cheated after a beautiful drive, jerry jones paid good this year to get an easy schedule and some ref assistance
Lmao how did they get cheated? The ref announced the player and the Lion's didn't correct them. The Lions screwed themselves after the refs tried to give them the game on a platter. They got them the ball backs and then the Lions totally butchered the 2 point conversion. Bad coaching and not clutch play
That’s not how it works
Not true at all one play doesn't represent the outcome of the game. Lions should've kicked the field goal and went into overtime they 2 chances to do so. Also they missed a tripping call on Hutchison and Lions gave up 92 yard touchdown when it should've been a safety plus the call isn't exactly wrong
The NFL schedule is predetermined EVERY year. It's literally set every year - on into infinity. You play 6 games against your division. You rotate playing a different inter-conference division each year. You also rotate playing a different out of conference division each year. You then play one team from each of the other two inter-conference divisions - which will be matched up by your placing in your divisions the season prior. Now, with the added 17th game. You rotate through out of conference divisions. Playing a game with a team from that division - matched up by your placing in each of your divisions the year prior.
This is the type of stuff you have to explain to people who think the league is "rigged" lmao.
I can tell you the schedule (not dates, but the opponents) for next year right now for every team. That's not how it works.
After what happen to the ineligible play, the Lions should’ve just kick the extra point and went into overtime. Going for 2 in that situation seems like they have nothing to lose and they pretty much lost themselves the opportunity to get the 1 seed.
I totally agree. The coach had several changes to tie it and win in overtime.
@@33ladyRAMits rigged for them to lose the game regardless probably 😂
@aresgodofwar2336 If it's rigged, why did the same refs literally give them a 3rd chance after a pick from Parsons, thus giving them yet another try. 😂 Lions made many mistakes this game that cost them. It's not ALL the refs fault.
@@aresgodofwar2336 70 also reported and lined up making the point irrelevant and the play illigal regardless if 68 reported. additionally the call of tripping shown that they made up a imaginary player and penalty before hand to put lions down there to begin with.
@@aresgodofwar2336 lmao why would you think the game is rigged. The illegal touching call was the correct call because the Liond didn't correct the official when the official announced number 70 as eligible and not 68
The flag came in around 30 to 45 seconds AFTER the play was done keep in mind.
Lol that doesn't matter at all
It was more like 5-10 seconds and so what? It just means they needed to discuss it. That's not unusual.
If they said that the only reason 68 was there was to report as eligible. Why are 68, 58 and 70 all there around the official?? They all can't report as eligible. Bad coaching on the special teams!
Assuming they didn't actually report, it's one of the few times this penalty makes any sense. Otherwise, lineman down field is one of the dumbest penalties in football. NFL defenders are NOT IDIOTS; they know just cuz a lineman runs down field, it doesn't mean they have to be covered. The penalty should ONLY be called if they touch the ball. I see way too many great plays, especially runs, get called back cuz "lineman down field".
They was tryna confuse Dallas, so they wouldn't kno who was eligible
@@nahor88 runs would not get called back b/c of lineman down field, that’s the time a lineman can be downfield !
@@teejaymelvin8911 Which is bad sportsmanship because that is exactly what the rule is designed to prevent.
Maybe so the other team doesn't realize which player is reporting as eligible, smart guy
There are six men on the line of scrimmage. Illegal formation should have been called, too.
Go back and watch the video again... St Brown at the top of the screen (right side) is on the line and covering the left tackle (Skipper), you count him and the lineman on the line, and it's 7 (Decker is on the line on the left side), the receiver to Decker's left is off the line, along with the tight end/slot receiver between Skipper and St Brown, then Goff and our runningback... 7 on the line, and 4 in the backfield. Legal formation... only reason they are saying illegal formation is if Skipper was really the one that checked in as eligible, because he reported as eligible but was covered up by St Brown
Uhh there’s supposed to be exactly 7 men on the line of scrimmage every play. The 5 lineman plus 2 other players, whether they be TE, WR, or any other position like RB or QB, just has to be 7 total guys on the line. That’s why when a player on the line goes in motion, he first steps back then another player steps up to the line before he goes in motion.
@@CarnivoreNomadit’s too bad casuals won’t understand a word you just said but you explained it perfectly
Skipper did not report as eligible. 68 did. The reason they are saying illegal formation is because the ref got confused. Skipper never reported. The only thing Skipper done was make gestures to his teammates to let them know they were going to a Big 12 formation.
@@mikemoola2101 - The Lions tried to be slick, confused the refs, and out-slicked themselves.
The ref looks Decker right in the face and Nods at him. He starts running away while Skipper is coming in! Why would a professional athlete, that knows he is going to be covered up on the line (Skipper) report as eligible??!! The ref messed it up, plain and simple
Yeah but he messed up pre play so the only solution here was the Lions had to correct him which they didn't or it was going to be a penalty.
It doesn't really matter. The ref never announced to Dallas that 68 was eligible so the play could have never stood. One they had the mishap as announcing the wrong player as eligible the Lions would have had to correct them or 68nwould be ineligible. The rule book states the ref has to annouce the eligible receiver to the defense and that didn't happen.
Not to mention yall got another try from the same spot and failed. You can't guarantee that if Dallas was told 68 was eligible that they wouldn't have guarded him and made the stop so you can't just say the Lions should have won
You can see the cowboys players looking to cover 70 who was announced as eligible. Lions thought they were cute but confused the ref and 70 ran on signaling he was reporting.
Man shut up
Why are the Lions penalized for the ref being bad at his job?
The formation is what screwed the Lions. Even if you report as eligible you have to line up correctly. There was a WR outside of 68 and one one the other end of the line. This caused 68 to be ineligible. The Lions needed another lineman on the inside of 68 or the WR to be in the backfield. The Lions screwed themselves and then Campbell had two chances after that. Since the first one wasn't executed correctly they should have played for overtime. This is what happens when you get locked on stupid.
Okay...so people are saying how he wasn't covered, can you help me understand him not being covered and why that would be a penalty? I've seen plenty of players not being covered and then catching the ball for a touchdown or a lot of yardage and it was just a blown coverage by the defense. What makes this different is it because he is a lineman ?
@@alanhobbs7360 The people saying he was ineligible 'because he wasn't covered' are wrong (covered, in this case, means that there is a teammate on the line of scrimmage outside of him. It has nothing to do with the defense.) So many people misunderstand eligibility. Covering him would make him ineligible, not eligible. (Also, ignore the OP -- what he said about formation was all wrong. The WR outside of 68 *was* in the backfield. This is why #68 was considered 'uncovered', which makes him eligible if he reports as such.)
The formation was 100% legal and he was 'uncovered', as he ought to be; all that happened was the ref was confused - for some unknown reason - about who was reporting as eligible. That's all. Everyone is making far too much of it and adding a lot more confusion to an already misunderstood rule. The announcers didn't help, either, but they were confused 'in the moment' so it's somewhat forgivable.
@leomdk939 nah regardless he was lined up illegally. They sent 3 over to the ref. All 3 of those lines men couldn't be elliagble but they all run to the refs. They screwed themselves because they wanted to get an unfair advantage.
@@leomdk939 okay yes... this is what I thought but people kept saying weird shit that didn't make any sense.
Just tie the game and go into OT
Six men . Illegal formation. I agree. Lions fans stip crying
The robbery of the century!!!
It was the right call so no robbery
@@parkermontalbano1905no it wasn't Dallas
@@TheBathulk10 it was... the ref announced number 70 as eligible before the play. The Lions didn't correct the ref of the announcement was incorrect therefore it was the right call. The Lions and the refs both messed up. Either way the call didn't really effect the game so it doesn't matter. Had the Cowboys known who was eligible the outcome would have been different. You can't say the Lions got screwed when they are the ones that heard the refs say number 70 is eligible and did nothing before the play to tell them that it should be 68 not 70. Just bad coaching on the Lions part
@@parkermontalbano1905 not the lions responsibility. Dudes paid 200k for part time work. He can keep track of numbers
@@TheBathulk10 it is 100% their job to make sure the right player gets reported because if not it is a penalty and the play is a illegal. The Lions messed up twice. Confusing the refs by sending multiple people over to the official and then not correcting the official when the ref announced the wrong name. The Lioms tried to be slick and cheat the rules but really they just hurt themselves. I don't know why their fans are making excuses for this stupidity and lack of good coaching
i don’t give a fuck. to me, detroit still won that game. karma got its though, as dallas lost in round 1, basically making detroit the 2 seed anyway.
And then they lost 47-9 the next season😂
If the guy had successfully reported then they would have announced over the PA that he reported. That is required by rule. So before he even lined up, he knew he had not reported.
You are correct nothing was said.
@@33ladyRAM They announced that #70 had reported over the PA. The Lions should've clarified or taken a pre-snap penalty and kicked the PAT.
It really doesn't matter what a guy set up in a booth on a microphone that was watching the game. What matters is who reported as eligible. Number 70 had reported eligible several times earlier in the game. This time number 58 and number 68 walked over to the ref and 68 reported as eligible. You can see the ref walking away from the huddle up with those two guys and 70 is walking toward it he had never even talked to the ref at that point.
Lmao you are literally saying the opposite of the truth. It doesn't matter who reports all that matters is who the ref announces to the defense as eligible. They told the defense that 70 reported before the play which is required by the NFL rule book. The Lions should have then told the ref that they wanted number 68 instead of 70 so they could announce that to the Cowboys. The Lions failed to alert the ref that he announced the wrong number therefore it is definitely on the Lions. They screwed themselves. They just weren't paying attention in a clutch moment
Why is everyone talking about "Detroit getting screwed?" Why is no one talking about ------> Officials missed tripping call before Lions' controversial penalty
ByADAM SCHEFTER
December 31, 2023, 11:09 AM
A missed call late in Saturday night's game between the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys led to an even higher-profile error in what has escalated into the latest and most egregious example that the NFL has an officiating issue.
The latest controversy surrounding referee Brad Allen and his officiating crew -- involving an overturned 2-point conversion by the Lions -- may have been avoided if not for another missed call on the Cowboys' previous possession.
Allen's officiating crew is expected to be downgraded, which will influence whether those officials are chosen for the postseason.
The Cowboys owned a 17-13 lead when they intercepted Jared Goff at the Lions' 29-yard line with 2:05 remaining. Tony Pollard's 7-yard run on the ensuing play was called back after Dallas tight end Peyton Hendershot was called for tripping, and the Cowboys faced a first-and-25 on the Lions' 44.
Video of that initial first-down play, reviewed by ESPN, showed that Lions defensive end Aidan Hutchinson -- not Hendershot -- should have been the one flagged for attempting to trip Pollard. The NFL has not commented on the tripping call mistake as of Sunday morning.
A penalty against the Lions on that play would have set up the Cowboys with a first down after the two-minute warning and a chance to run more of the clock while forcing the Lions to use their remaining timeouts.
They guy saying "it's ineligible man, it's illegal touching, it's illegal formation" is a rule analysis why is everyone ignoring the fact they could've called 3 different penalties
The play was legal. #68 did report, so no ineligible man and no illegal touching. The formation was legit. The lions got straight robbed.
Play was legal he was just saying shit. It was legal, they’ve ran this before and gotten called with the same thing, they wouldn’t make the same mistake again 2 weeks later. The ref fucked it
Ok. What would the three penalties be?
It's only those penalties if Decker didn't report and Skipper did. Which isn't what happened.
@@Just_Ryn0 if 68 was eligible he has to be naked on the left side... has to be the last man over there and he wasn't as there was a wr on his left. Doesnt matter if the wr was on the line of scrimmage or not the wr needed to be lined up clearly inside decker's left shoulder and the only way he can do that is to be behind him
The Lions confused the wrong person. I know they confused Dallas, but they also confused the official by having three guys go toward the official when they only needed one and confusion creates errors, plain and simple.
The lions wouldn’t even had the chance to drive if the refs called the tripping call correctly
That play had so many cowboys holding so
@@TheBathulk10 yeah and the Lions should have corrected the officials when they announced the wrong number to the Cowboys. The Lions dropped the ball during the 2 point conversion and it is funny watching everyone make excuses. The ref announces the eligible receiver on a PA system right next to both teams. If it was the wrong player then all they had to do is correct the official before the play started and they failed to do that
Coaches should be allowed to take the whole team to the side lines and decline to keep playing.
For all of you, who don’t realize what the lions were trying to do answer me , this why did they send three lineman to the referee when only one of them was going to be reporting eligible? 🤔 2 lineman from the huddle and number 70 came from the sideline and they all met at the referee. What they were trying to do was confuse Dallas by having one of those three report eligible so they didn’t know who to cover . What ended up happening is the Lions confused themselves and the wrong guy reported to the official.
Decker was the only one who reported. Sewell and Skipper were indeed there as decoys but Decker was the only one who actually reported. The refs screwed up, not the Lions
@@ZachPfeiffer nope 70 was reported by the officials
@@cdngravy844 right, they got it wrong.
@@ZachPfeiffer yeah but the cowboys would have had no idea so it would have been even more unfair to the cowboys to let the play stand - whereas to call the penalty at least gives both teams a fair chance
@@cdngravy844 it's more unfair to let the play stand for 15 seconds and then throw the flag. It's a trick play. The whole point is that 58 and 70 are there as a distraction. Dan Campbell specifically went over that play with the refs before the game and got the ok from them. Then they change their minds because it would cost Dallas the game.
Unfortunate call, ref looked 68 in the face as well as the two other linemen around him. Refs should let the players just play effing football, but you reap what you sow Detroit, you ended up tricking the ref. Alas the lions wouldn't even be in that position if Dallas didn't literally throw the game away in your favor the drive earlier.
Thats not true the ref see 70 coming in and his doing the motion that he is eligible and completely ignores 70 who is also doing the motion. Also he announce #70 to everyone yet lions didn't correct the ref. I am not a cowboys fan nor a lions fan sure this very controversial but refs got it right
Decker was covered up on the play, which makes him ineligible to catch the ball. Look at 0:00 of the tape. Decker is clearly covered up by a WR.
Disagree we should let plays play while ignoring the rules.
The fact they didnt storm that field and a riot broke out is a miracle.
For what that would have been dumb. Their the ones that f#$ked up
@@pbewared9540 how did the lions fuck up when they did exactly as they were supposed to and it was on the ref who didnt make sure he made the right call
Looks to me like he's covered which would make him ineligible even with reporting. Has that been discussed by the NFL?
No one to 68s left except a receiver off the ball, effectively making him a tight end and totally eligible.
68 is uncovered. Who is covering him?
@@vger9186 the wr on Decker's left does not appear to be on the line of scrimmage, if I am reading the rule correctly that wr can't be outside Decker's left shoulder on the line or behind the line, he has to be lined up clearly inside decker's left shoulder and the only way to do that is to be in the backfield his left foot inside of decker's left foot.
@@vger9186 Looking at it again I think you're correct. It looks like the NFL rule is different in that you're off the line if you're one yard behind the LOS when the ball is snapped.
@@billsmith8322 No one. My fault. Looking at it again I think you're correct. It looks like the NFL rule is different in that you're off the line if you're one yard behind the LOS when the ball is snapped.
Just ditch the whole tackle-eligible silliness altogether. It's not necessary. It's weird. It's gimmicky and stupid. No one's offense relies on it and it's mostly just used to trick the defense into leaving someone uncovered rather than actually outplaying them. Just make it the rule that tackles are never eligible, no matter what. The rules are complex enough and tackle-eligible is such a dumb, unneeded monkey wrench.
no dog in this fight. how is this controversial? The rule states that only ONE team member (jersey number 50-79) can be declared eligible in any given play. The refs HAVE to advise the defense so campbell or any coach can't pull a fast one. Campbell and/or his team members don't know the rules? or 70 ran in pretending that he wanted to be eligible while 68 whispered into the refs ear....again, the ref HAS to advise the defense which team member has been declared eligible. The NFL is now making sure teams are clear on this tackle eligible rule. Don't get me wrong there has been some pretty poor officiating this year and refs have been brutal for years. Watch one of the worst non calls ever that kept the saints out of the superbowl a few years ago. Officiating stinks. But don't throw them under the bus for this one. bad coaching is to blame. and consider if 68 were eligible maybe Dallas would have been smart enough to prevent the 2 point conversion? Live and learn. move on. they messed up. and Det could have kicked extra point providing an opportunity to win in OT but Campbell wanted to be the hero and go for the win.
#FireBradAllen
I am cowboys fan Detroit should have won but they got two cute for there on good
The thing about bad calls is, if you look across the field, its not a bad call. Coach should have just kicked instead of complicating things. That one play didn't lose the game
They won. The game was over and then Jerry told the refs it wasn’t.
@@paulhileman3300no the game wasn't over. The wrong player reported so either it was the ref or the Lions but before the play they only announced 70 as eligible. Lions should have heard this and corrected him if so
Worst officiating fail since the Fail Mary game. Complete BS
No. There were 2 fouls anyway. #70 reported as eligible but lined up at right tackle. But was covered up by the TE. Which is an illegal formation. Even if the #68 penalty wasn't called, there was an illegal formation penalty which also would have had the same result
@@glsgls1045 No, that only applies if #70 was the one that reported as eligible, if #68 reported as eligible like they are saying, and like you can see at the end of the video, then there are no fouls/penalties at all
It was definitely the right call. You can clearly hear the ref annouce 70 as eligible and never mention 68. How are you that confused lol
@chrishoffman6396 he ran at the ref from the sideline with his right hand at his chest. If you don't want to be mistaken for reporting, don't RUN AT THE REF DOING THE SIGNAL FOR REPORTING 😆 then be like we'll that's not what I MEANT 😂 the ref announced him as eligible. There were multiple flags on the field and the ref stated afterward that yes the other flag was for illegal formation.
Don't they need to report it to the ref and other team ? Anyway, should have kicked the extra point. Analytics = biggest scam going. What ever happened to common sense!!!
Offense reports to the Ref, the Ref lets the Defense know (and its usually announced, and if it was announced that 70 was eligible, then someone from the Lions should have heard it and corrected it)
@@CarnivoreNomadexactly
A lot of people here don't realize that in no situation could they have counted the 2 ppint conversion. The refs announced before the play that 70 reported. So rather they reported wrong or the Lions did. You can not penalize the Cowboys because they were told that number 70 reported so automatically nobody would even consider covering 68 because it was never announced by the official thatbhe was eligible before the play. So either you blame the refs or the lions but no way can you say the Lions should have won because the Cowboys were never told that 68 reported. Also, lets not act like the Lions didnt get gifted a call right before this
By having #58, 68 and 70 all go to the ref, the Lions were obviously trying to confuse Dallas as to who was going to be eligible. This is bad sportsmanship because the rule about reporting as eligible is designed specifically to prevent this confusion. They aren't supposed to get that advantage. I'm glad it backfired on them. Sportsmanship should still matter.
The refs literally tell the defense who’s eligible. Ref told Cowboys defense that #70 was eligible. It’s on the full story.
@@Thinkinator323Yeah, I know they do, but it's still an attempt to trick Dallas rather than outplay them. In the heat of the moment, it's easy to miss the refs telling you which combination of ineligible numbers is now eligible (as in: "Hey, did the ref say 68 and 70? Or did he say 58 and 70?)" . Detroit was trying to pull a fast one. Why do you think they sent 3 guys to talk to the refs when only 2 will be eligible? Why do you think both68 and 58 were there, when 58 wasn't reporting? Then they're wondering why the refs got confused, too? Serves em right. They got too deceptive for their own good.
Man this cost the Eagles the NFC East🤬🤬🤬🤬
F the eagles
KICK THE BALL!!!
I don’t care who reported as what. I’m not really a fan of either team, but 68 was clearly lined up in the left tackle position next to the left guard. An extra lineman lined up outside the tacklebox can be eligible but needs to be reported. But linemen within the tacklebox can’t be eligible no matter what they report.
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Fire lions hc 💀💀💀 JUST KICK IT