i was just watching a random video of yours because i was heavily inspired by the quick straught to the point demeanor you have, and now, i am happy i did. no wonder my file transfer dows that. im going to go get thermal padding. you are awsome.
Это то видео, что мне нужно! Снял 2230 Samsung у сына с ноутбука Dell G15 5515 с R7 5800H и RTX3060 в связи с апгрейдом. Подарил ему 2Tb WD SN770. И Ноут перестал фризить! Только задним числом понял, что виной был ssd 2230!!! Без охлаждения вообще!!! Поставил это (2230) в свой miniPC HP prodesk 600 G4, фризы замучали! Приделал кусок чипсетного радиатора от старого компьютера через thermopad, но не очень помогло! Спасибо, автор! Теперь я знаю почему и буду исправлять!
I've found better luck with the Arctic TP3 Pads, and they're cheaper too. Great video! These pads are especially useful for the 2230 drives. So much speed in such a small space.
A high-quality thermal putty like Upsiren UX Pro Ultra alii.pub/73v7ji easily outperforms thermal pads, not just because of higher thermal conductivity but due to its soft, adaptable nature. It molds around components, efficiently transferring heat from all surfaces to the heatsink, which pads can’t do. Plus, it doesn’t put as much stress on the SSD and other components like memory chips on graphics cards etc, unlike pads that can cause issues if the thickness isn’t right. That’s why thermal putty is the go-to choice for consoles, graphics cards, and other high-performance devices. In our repair shop, we use it for warranty products, certified repairs, and high-end hardware. For budget laptops, though, we stick to thermal pads.
I just bought WD SN740 2230 2TB for my ROG ALLY, I was wondering if I need to peel off the M.2 sticker to apply a thermal pad so I can put the heatsink on it? Thanks!
As for the sticker, it's up to you. I've tested the temperature difference with and without the sticker on a 2280 M.2 SSD, and I haven't noticed any significant changes. If your drive has a warranty, I wouldn't remove it. If not, then go ahead and peel it off.
No it's not an adhesive. It won't hold anything if you attach to it. If your laptop came without a heatsink, there are some universal solutions that may work for you. The links in the description.
Well, it's not that straightforward. Many people believe that 2230 SSDs consume less current than 2280 SSDs because they typically have fewer components like one NAND chip and a smaller controller, which makes sense in theory. However, in practice, it varies widely. From our experience in data recovery from SSDs, I can say that some 2230 models consume less power than 2280 models, but others consume more. The power consumption is influenced by various factors including Controller Efficiency, NAND flash type and density, thermal management, and even firmware version.
I bought the WD SN770 ssd, which doesn't come with any thermalpad. I'll install it in a Lenovo Ideapad 3, and I don't think there's any ssd heatsink that fits - I've been searching a lot and didn't find anything. Will thermalpad only gonna be enough? What thickness should it have? More is better, like 1.5mm is better than 1mm or 0.5mm?
Well, for some reason, Lenovo decided to cheap out on the heatsink for that model, and it doesn't make any sense attaching the thermal pad without the heatsink because that pad acts as a heat transfer medium between the components of the drive and the heatsink. The thermal pad will simply fall out when you flip your laptop. In your case, the only option is to use a universal heatsink, which is basically a copper strip attached to an SSD drive with rubber rings. It will provide great cooling and significantly extend the life of your SSD. Here's the link: alii.pub/6yy1oz
@@ElectronicsComputers using this universal heatsink scares me a lot because I've read (a few) reports of the rubber rings getting damaged and the copper strip hitting the laptop board. Is there anything I should be careful of when installing it? I've been using a kingspec 1tb ssd for some months now using the thermalpad that came with the laptop - no heatsink, only this blue thermalpad over the lenovo ssd. Some months ago, this ssd just died, but I managed to make it work again by getting the thermalpad closer.
@@adrianozzz Oh, yeah that's not the model I was thinking about. Just use two thermal pads of different thickness for the controller and NAND chips. Or simply apply some high performance thermal putty.
@@ElectronicsComputers I ended up buying the universal heatsink with the rubber bands. I also bought two good thermalpads, 0.5mm and 1mm thick each. Should I use this universal heatsink although my laptop has its own heatsink? Or should I use only the thermalpads?
could thermal throttling cause the drive from being "dismounted"? It often happens with two of my nvme drives which are connected with thunderbolt 4 SSD enclosures. (they are VERY hot when it happens).
Yes, that could be a reason. If the controller overheats, it can become unstable and reset, which may also happen with the PCIe-to-USB controller in the enclosure. Use a high-quality, short cable rated for the speed-like a 30 cm (1 ft) or shorter Anker cable. Also, M.2 2230 SSDs often fail from overheating, leading to solder cracks under the memory and controller chips due to constant heat cycling. Proper cooling is crucial to extend the life of these drives, especially the 2230 form factor.
In some cases, we can only use thermal pads or thermal putty, and in other cases, either of those can be used. In the latter case, I'd opt for thermal putty because it can perfectly cover all components with different thicknesses and provide cooling to small chips as well, not only to the NAND and controller. Also thermal putty has way better specs than thermal pads.
@@bungeeeperson Absolutely not. That thermal putty is not conductive, and it's very good that it can penetrate everywhere and transfer heat from all components to the heatsink.
Sure! Even if your desktop motherboard doesn't have a mount for such a small size, you can use an extension adapter like the one I showed in the video. The link is in the description.
My series S console seems to be blackscreening mid game and kicking back to dashboard , also comes up with random sys_errors which states certain game files are missing. I am guessing the SSD is overheating and causing this issue? Would this solution still work for the series S models since they have no heatseak and use the chassis as one instead?
@Tiqahh Instead of stock green thermal putty, you can use high-performance thermal putty Upsiren UX. The link is in the description. In general, like I said in the video, those M.2 2230 SSDs don't last long. Before replacing the thermal putty, check SSD's SMART with any software like Aida64 and also check the drive for bad blocks. If the SSD dies, the console becomes a brick and can't be repaired. I have a video on SSD upgrade and cloning where I explained why it happens.
Yes, in terms of thermal conductivity and performance, thermal putty wins because it can conform to any uneven surface and effectively cover all components, transferring heat from them to the heatsink.
dont make any diference here , bm9c1 1024gb getting 92 on controller and 81 on memory . My old one of 512gb dont pass 65 on heavy stress or gaming , this one bm9c1 is heating just in turn on the laptop and i have a passive copper heatsink .
I'd suggest using thermal putty in that case. 92°C is quite high, so make sure you always have backups of your data, especially if your laptop is older than two years.
i was just watching a random video of yours because i was heavily inspired by the quick straught to the point demeanor you have, and now, i am happy i did. no wonder my file transfer dows that. im going to go get thermal padding. you are awsome.
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for the comment!
Это то видео, что мне нужно! Снял 2230 Samsung у сына с ноутбука Dell G15 5515 с R7 5800H и RTX3060 в связи с апгрейдом. Подарил ему 2Tb WD SN770. И Ноут перестал фризить! Только задним числом понял, что виной был ssd 2230!!! Без охлаждения вообще!!! Поставил это (2230) в свой miniPC HP prodesk 600 G4, фризы замучали! Приделал кусок чипсетного радиатора от старого компьютера через thermopad, но не очень помогло! Спасибо, автор! Теперь я знаю почему и буду исправлять!
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I've found better luck with the Arctic TP3 Pads, and they're cheaper too. Great video! These pads are especially useful for the 2230 drives. So much speed in such a small space.
We need more videos like this. Straight to the point! 😃
Thank you for the comment!
Excellent demonstration
Glad it was helpful!
Nice vid, is there any differences between putty and pad in terms of temperature?
A high-quality thermal putty like Upsiren UX Pro Ultra alii.pub/73v7ji easily outperforms thermal pads, not just because of higher thermal conductivity but due to its soft, adaptable nature. It molds around components, efficiently transferring heat from all surfaces to the heatsink, which pads can’t do. Plus, it doesn’t put as much stress on the SSD and other components like memory chips on graphics cards etc, unlike pads that can cause issues if the thickness isn’t right.
That’s why thermal putty is the go-to choice for consoles, graphics cards, and other high-performance devices. In our repair shop, we use it for warranty products, certified repairs, and high-end hardware. For budget laptops, though, we stick to thermal pads.
I just bought WD SN740 2230 2TB for my ROG ALLY, I was wondering if I need to peel off the M.2 sticker to apply a thermal pad so I can put the heatsink on it? Thanks!
As for the sticker, it's up to you. I've tested the temperature difference with and without the sticker on a 2280 M.2 SSD, and I haven't noticed any significant changes. If your drive has a warranty, I wouldn't remove it. If not, then go ahead and peel it off.
@@ElectronicsComputers Alright, thanks you so much for an advice!
It looks like to put two pads on the smaller square?
That's right. You can either buy two pads, 1mm and 0.5mm, or just stack two 0.5mm pads to make a 1mm pad.
Is that thermal putty also an adhesive so I can use it to install a heatsink on my ROG Ally drive?
No it's not an adhesive. It won't hold anything if you attach to it. If your laptop came without a heatsink, there are some universal solutions that may work for you. The links in the description.
can you make test power comsumption 2230 vs 2280 ?
Well, it's not that straightforward. Many people believe that 2230 SSDs consume less current than 2280 SSDs because they typically have fewer components like one NAND chip and a smaller controller, which makes sense in theory. However, in practice, it varies widely. From our experience in data recovery from SSDs, I can say that some 2230 models consume less power than 2280 models, but others consume more. The power consumption is influenced by various factors including Controller Efficiency, NAND flash type and density, thermal management, and even firmware version.
@@ElectronicsComputers yes, I just want to know how much power 2230 dramless, 2280 dramless... I want to save battery by replacing the SSD
I bought TG minus pad 8; it's "smooth" on one side and "zigzag pattern" on the other. Which way should I put the pads?
The smooth side goes to the heatsink and the rough one to the SSD.
@@ElectronicsComputers Thanks! I was looking through other vids, or even plain instructions, yet couldn’t find anything direct. Thanks again!
I bought the WD SN770 ssd, which doesn't come with any thermalpad.
I'll install it in a Lenovo Ideapad 3, and I don't think there's any ssd heatsink that fits - I've been searching a lot and didn't find anything.
Will thermalpad only gonna be enough? What thickness should it have? More is better, like 1.5mm is better than 1mm or 0.5mm?
Well, for some reason, Lenovo decided to cheap out on the heatsink for that model, and it doesn't make any sense attaching the thermal pad without the heatsink because that pad acts as a heat transfer medium between the components of the drive and the heatsink. The thermal pad will simply fall out when you flip your laptop. In your case, the only option is to use a universal heatsink, which is basically a copper strip attached to an SSD drive with rubber rings. It will provide great cooling and significantly extend the life of your SSD. Here's the link: alii.pub/6yy1oz
@@ElectronicsComputers using this universal heatsink scares me a lot because I've read (a few) reports of the rubber rings getting damaged and the copper strip hitting the laptop board. Is there anything I should be careful of when installing it?
I've been using a kingspec 1tb ssd for some months now using the thermalpad that came with the laptop - no heatsink, only this blue thermalpad over the lenovo ssd.
Some months ago, this ssd just died, but I managed to make it work again by getting the thermalpad closer.
@@ElectronicsComputers th-cam.com/video/xWWSQLFiZCY/w-d-xo.html actually there's heatsink in its carcass. in this video you can see its thermalpad too
@@adrianozzz Oh, yeah that's not the model I was thinking about. Just use two thermal pads of different thickness for the controller and NAND chips. Or simply apply some high performance thermal putty.
@@ElectronicsComputers I ended up buying the universal heatsink with the rubber bands. I also bought two good thermalpads, 0.5mm and 1mm thick each.
Should I use this universal heatsink although my laptop has its own heatsink? Or should I use only the thermalpads?
The m.2 drive I bought looks like both chips are the exact height.... Have you seen this before?
Sure! For such drives you can use only one 0.5mm thermal pad.
could thermal throttling cause the drive from being "dismounted"? It often happens with two of my nvme drives which are connected with thunderbolt 4 SSD enclosures. (they are VERY hot when it happens).
Yes, that could be a reason. If the controller overheats, it can become unstable and reset, which may also happen with the PCIe-to-USB controller in the enclosure. Use a high-quality, short cable rated for the speed-like a 30 cm (1 ft) or shorter Anker cable. Also, M.2 2230 SSDs often fail from overheating, leading to solder cracks under the memory and controller chips due to constant heat cycling. Proper cooling is crucial to extend the life of these drives, especially the 2230 form factor.
Would you recommend putty or pads?
In some cases, we can only use thermal pads or thermal putty, and in other cases, either of those can be used. In the latter case, I'd opt for thermal putty because it can perfectly cover all components with different thicknesses and provide cooling to small chips as well, not only to the NAND and controller. Also thermal putty has way better specs than thermal pads.
@@ElectronicsComputersAwesome, thanks for the insight! So it's no problem if the putty touches all the components on the ssd right?
@@bungeeeperson Absolutely not. That thermal putty is not conductive, and it's very good that it can penetrate everywhere and transfer heat from all components to the heatsink.
Do you have the links for the thermal pads at AliExpress?
I really liked this video 👍
Thank you for the comment! On Ali you can buy Gelid thermal pads, which have even higher thermal conductivity than Grizzly: alii.pub/6y2let
Can you use 2230 M.2 NVMe SSD for desktop?
Sure! Even if your desktop motherboard doesn't have a mount for such a small size, you can use an extension adapter like the one I showed in the video. The link is in the description.
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Thank you for the comment!
How do I check if its overheating
I use HWInfo: www.hwinfo.com/ software or Aida64. You can watch the same video for M.2 2280 SSDs to see how it works.
My series S console seems to be blackscreening mid game and kicking back to dashboard , also comes up with random sys_errors which states certain game files are missing. I am guessing the SSD is overheating and causing this issue? Would this solution still work for the series S models since they have no heatseak and use the chassis as one instead?
@Tiqahh Instead of stock green thermal putty, you can use high-performance thermal putty Upsiren UX. The link is in the description. In general, like I said in the video, those M.2 2230 SSDs don't last long. Before replacing the thermal putty, check SSD's SMART with any software like Aida64 and also check the drive for bad blocks. If the SSD dies, the console becomes a brick and can't be repaired. I have a video on SSD upgrade and cloning where I explained why it happens.
I would use thermal putty instead of thermal pad
Yes, in terms of thermal conductivity and performance, thermal putty wins because it can conform to any uneven surface and effectively cover all components, transferring heat from them to the heatsink.
Amazing vid as always.
Thanks again!
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Great video.
Thanks for the visit
dont make any diference here , bm9c1 1024gb getting 92 on controller and 81 on memory . My old one of 512gb dont pass 65 on heavy stress or gaming , this one bm9c1 is heating just in turn on the laptop and i have a passive copper heatsink .
I'd suggest using thermal putty in that case. 92°C is quite high, so make sure you always have backups of your data, especially if your laptop is older than two years.