...That's one of the motives why the experiences of shamans/sorcerers are so different than the ones of those who use these plants (even when they think they have the correct "setting"). They lack a full part of the process and they usually never understand it. For what it concerns Datura (or Belladonna), it should be used in a state of trance (verge of sleep/waking) and from there you can do whatever you want (it's from there that the plant really works).
I took a heaping tablespoon of seeds at a party on a dare once. Didnt know what they were or nothing. I tripped very hard for seven days. When i say tripped very hard i know what im talking about and was probably anthing that you could imagine. After it was 15 days i started to feel ok but still weird. During those 15 days my mouth was very dry i couldnt get enough to drink but it was hard too pee. My vision was blurry for a solid month. My advice to anyone that knows what this is and wants to try it DON'T. It wasnt pleasant at all
Anthony, I am glad to hear you survived and learned from the awful experience to avoid this! It is a dangerous plant to experiment with and the 'trip' isn't worth the risks involved!
Because certain plants give certain experiences. The Belladonna/Datura/Henbane plants give you experiences that you cannot obtain in any other way. They really bring you to the so-called "underworld" or "infernal" regions. As for the "dangerous", as I tried to explain, they are dangerous because people use toxic doses to have "hallucinations" in a recreative way. You should NEVER use the plants that way. Already if you have dry mouth etc. you are taking a too high dose almost all the times.
How can you "read on the dosage" when none can be known for sure and the whole plant is very poisonous? As for the insanity issue, I know one guy who has been in and out of mental hospitals most of his adult life and he says datura is one of the main things that caused his illness and ruined his life.
There are ways. One of the best is through ointments. You can whip it out from the skin when the effect you need is obtained (that's usually just a bit after the euphoria state). The problem is that people always expect plants to do all the work for them. An hallucination in that sense it is just a toxic effect, nothing more. A power plant is just a tool, a sort of tuner, but you need the apparel to tune, and that can only come through yourself...
Some of the Brugmansias used to be classed as in the Datura genus. They are bigger plants but much the same when it comes to the dangerous tropane alkaloids they contain.
I'm glad to see you doing what you do very well. Try and keep the wind out of the mike. Any bit of open-cell plastic foam will do wrapped on the camera, if that's where the mike is. :)
only pure scopolamine extracted from datura can get you to do whatever a person wants you to do i myself tried datura a few times stramonium and innoxia are not that much fun but brugmansia if u consume the flowers u get nice visual distortions and the deliriant state is at the minimum so you are in control. im not encouraging anyone to try this but if you absoultely have to dont eat more then 2 flowers and make sure its brugmansia not stramonium or innoxia with the seed pods leave does alone!
iv heard that if you make it into a ointment ( apprantly the way witches used to do it) is the proper way to do it as your body can only absorb the chemicals that make you high and not the ones that make you sick dehydrated & blurry vision . also if you rub the ointment on your feet and calf's it gives you a flying sensation/trip. i dont know how true this is but if i ever do try it witch i probley wont i will make the ointment. Datura trips sound like me when i have bad sleep paralysis lol
Deliriants aren't shit you should mess with. I've delved quite deep into a diphenhydramine trip and the places it can take you are pretty dark, and absolutely terrifying. You're sitting on the couch, your arms feel like they weigh five tons a piece, and you're surrounded by spiders that begin to crawl all over your body. Dead people walked through my front door, a man hung from my ceiling and kicked around like he was dying. I can't imagine what a datura experience would be like...
Yeah i agree iv been reading allot of datura trip/experiences and alot of them sound exactly like what i go through when i have really bad sleep paralysis and lucid dreams.
Great vid. I would just like to know, did the drug affect his reasoning in a way that he was easy to control? was he docile and complacent? Even if it was hard to get his attention? Like... could you tell him to do something and he would just automatically do it like a zombie? Thanks -DJ
I have a lot of brugmansia seeds, what are the differences between datura and brugmansia? Got the seeds right in front of me right now, alone though.. not trying it at the moment
Brugmansia or " tree datura" contains much higher concentrations of. hyoscyamine atropine and scopolomine , than your average garden variety moonflower
That happens always, on all the so-called "hallucinogenic" plants, just because, as I've said you, people don't know how to use them. You can watch here in TH-cam videos of Ayahuasca sessions, or sessions with Mushrooms of even people that insist that they use the thing "ritually" but all you can see is people that at most "get a better sense of their life" (at most, in the majority of cases it is just utter nonsense what they get)....
i watched a 3 hour movie in hynogognia with subtites eyes closed... summoned several types of insect. seen strange un documented wildlife and witnessed intergalactic wars
...Now, "getting the sense of your life" can be good, but if you read some reports of Shamans/Sorcerers that really use these plants as they must be used, you will see completely different things. They have a completely different way to use these plants, and this way is the ritual way, a way were you direct the experience doing certain things (as the aforementioned trance state). If you cannot do so, the most powerful the plant (and Belladonna or Datura are immensely powerful) the more nonsense.
I lost my balance on the way to the toilet,and banged my head into the wall.Trying to avoid it happen again,i smashed by head in the opposite wall,and lights out, I will never eat datura leaves again.But now i grow her on my patio.
If you take mushrooms, peyote, morning glory or other such psychoactives you are still seeing this world, heightened and distorted as it may appear, whereas with datura you are mentally leaving the real world behind and are perceiving some other reality to everyone else.
Well you didn't post my comment, no, but you posted this one: "So i am not on TH-cam, fuck that's great, it must really work then."...at least that is what it says!
It would be probably impossible and very dangerous indeed, both to the person on the datura and anyone else they could run into. What you are seeing on this stuff is not what is here and where you think you are is not where you are.
i did it a couple times. once i imagined someone passed me a blunt and said thank you with my hand out. i looked around and my friends were all looking at me like wtf. I think we watched the movie (kindof) ratatouille like 6 times. at least it was on that many times.lol never again. shit makes your vision blurry and my friend almost died once cuz he was doing stupid shit on it.
Sounds alot like mexican tripping weed or salvia i cant remember but i had some once and i fully left this world i was in my mates room but i thought i was the side of a truck driving through a farm i actually could see the farm all around me and knew that i was just part of a truck and no im not just some amature lol.maybe it affects the same part of the brain. how ever datura sounds like the mother off all hallucinogenics to me.
Well, as someone who has seen others on it, I would say there is no "correct setting" because what you experience on this plant is not in this reality and you might as well be dreaming. You can see and talk with people that are not there, believe you are in places you are not in and do things that make no sense to others in the real world, such as smoking cigarettes that don't exist. It produces insanity!
I would never try Datura/Jimson Weed. I’m totally fascinated by the stories of people’s trips however.
I could listen to datura experiences for hours.
You are very wise. It is a very dangerous plant and best left alone!
...That's one of the motives why the experiences of shamans/sorcerers are so different than the ones of those who use these plants (even when they think they have the correct "setting"). They lack a full part of the process and they usually never understand it.
For what it concerns Datura (or Belladonna), it should be used in a state of trance (verge of sleep/waking) and from there you can do whatever you want (it's from there that the plant really works).
Liminal State?
Where did u hear about this id like to learn but id never try a 3 day trip lol
I took a heaping tablespoon of seeds at a party on a dare once. Didnt know what they were or nothing. I tripped very hard for seven days. When i say tripped very hard i know what im talking about and was probably anthing that you could imagine. After it was 15 days i started to feel ok but still weird. During those 15 days my mouth was very dry i couldnt get enough to drink but it was hard too pee. My vision was blurry for a solid month. My advice to anyone that knows what this is and wants to try it DON'T. It wasnt pleasant at all
Anthony, I am glad to hear you survived and learned from the awful experience to avoid this! It is a dangerous plant to experiment with and the 'trip' isn't worth the risks involved!
Because certain plants give certain experiences. The Belladonna/Datura/Henbane plants give you experiences that you cannot obtain in any other way. They really bring you to the so-called "underworld" or "infernal" regions.
As for the "dangerous", as I tried to explain, they are dangerous because people use toxic doses to have "hallucinations" in a recreative way.
You should NEVER use the plants that way. Already if you have dry mouth etc. you are taking a too high dose almost all the times.
This woman has a sick sense of humor.
Yeah, that's messed up. Does she realize people have died in from Datura?
Labyrinth1010 Not funny...
Madame Mazuni found it funny and I was simply being videoed.
How can you "read on the dosage" when none can be known for sure and the whole plant is very poisonous? As for the insanity issue, I know one guy who has been in and out of mental hospitals most of his adult life and he says datura is one of the main things that caused his illness and ruined his life.
Omg what a truly HORRIBLE story. So sad that someone would give in to their curiosity only to cause him a lifetime of mental/emotional problems.
There are ways. One of the best is through ointments. You can whip it out from the skin when the effect you need is obtained (that's usually just a bit after the euphoria state).
The problem is that people always expect plants to do all the work for them. An hallucination in that sense it is just a toxic effect, nothing more. A power plant is just a tool, a sort of tuner, but you need the apparel to tune, and that can only come through yourself...
Some of the Brugmansias used to be classed as in the Datura genus. They are bigger plants but much the same when it comes to the dangerous tropane alkaloids they contain.
@beachcomber2008 Thank you! Yes, I know about the wind problem but I wasn't filming it and was concentrating on what I was on about.
thanks for your support!
Why is your hair all turqoise though? I always wanted purple hair but don't have the guts to do it
***** because I got into the habit of colouring it! I have had it green and purple too.
I'm glad to see you doing what you do very well. Try and keep the wind out of the mike. Any bit of open-cell plastic foam will do wrapped on the camera, if that's where the mike is. :)
only pure scopolamine extracted from datura can get you to do whatever a person wants you to do i myself tried datura a few times stramonium and innoxia are not that much fun but brugmansia if u consume the flowers u get nice visual distortions and the deliriant state is at the minimum so you are in control.
im not encouraging anyone to try this but if you absoultely have to dont eat more then 2 flowers and make sure its brugmansia not stramonium or innoxia with the seed pods
leave does alone!
You are welcome!
iv heard that if you make it into a ointment ( apprantly the way witches used to do it) is the proper way to do it as your body can only absorb the chemicals that make you high and not the ones that make you sick dehydrated & blurry vision . also if you rub the ointment on your feet and calf's it gives you a flying sensation/trip. i dont know how true this is but if i ever do try it witch i probley wont i will make the ointment. Datura trips sound like me when i have bad sleep paralysis lol
You're thinking Black Henbane. Contains similar alkaloids. Also toxic and must be treated with respect.
Deliriants aren't shit you should mess with. I've delved quite deep into a diphenhydramine trip and the places it can take you are pretty dark, and absolutely terrifying. You're sitting on the couch, your arms feel like they weigh five tons a piece, and you're surrounded by spiders that begin to crawl all over your body. Dead people walked through my front door, a man hung from my ceiling and kicked around like he was dying. I can't imagine what a datura experience would be like...
What is the deal with spiders? Like everyone sees them on this stuff
Yeah i agree iv been reading allot of datura trip/experiences and alot of them sound exactly like what i go through when i have really bad sleep paralysis and lucid dreams.
Great vid.
I would just like to know, did the drug affect his reasoning in a way that he was easy to control? was he docile and complacent? Even if it was hard to get his attention?
Like... could you tell him to do something and he would just automatically do it like a zombie?
Thanks
-DJ
Ive heard a different plant is used for that the slang is dragons breath or devils breath i forget the plant name. Vice did a video on it a while ago
I would imagine it is not as such a willing 'love potion' but more a case of being so out of it that another could take advantage of you!
I have a lot of brugmansia seeds, what are the differences between datura and brugmansia? Got the seeds right in front of me right now, alone though.. not trying it at the moment
how was is
Brugmansia or " tree datura" contains much higher concentrations of. hyoscyamine atropine and scopolomine , than your average garden variety moonflower
So is that a load of it growing behind you ?
That happens always, on all the so-called "hallucinogenic" plants, just because, as I've said you, people don't know how to use them.
You can watch here in TH-cam videos of Ayahuasca sessions, or sessions with Mushrooms of even people that insist that they use the thing "ritually" but all you can see is people that at most "get a better sense of their life" (at most, in the majority of cases it is just utter nonsense what they get)....
i watched a 3 hour movie in hynogognia with subtites eyes closed... summoned several types of insect. seen strange un documented wildlife and witnessed intergalactic wars
Wut
a common thread in all jimson 'trips' seems to be the imaginary cigarette phenomena. i don't wish to try it again to see how tho. bad bad stuff.
Agreed! Once is more than enough for anyone and better off not at all!
Yea Bard
do not consume this plant, but let it grow. good luck
- an ayurvedin (sattva)
...Now, "getting the sense of your life" can be good, but if you read some reports of Shamans/Sorcerers that really use these plants as they must be used, you will see completely different things.
They have a completely different way to use these plants, and this way is the ritual way, a way were you direct the experience doing certain things (as the aforementioned trance state).
If you cannot do so, the most powerful the plant (and Belladonna or Datura are immensely powerful) the more nonsense.
Other dangerously poisonous psychoactive plants are legal too such as Deadly Nightshade, Henbane and Mandrake!
I lost my balance on the way to the toilet,and banged my head into the wall.Trying to avoid it happen again,i smashed by head in the opposite wall,and lights out,
I will never eat datura leaves again.But now i grow her on my patio.
I always have lucid dreams (rare are the nights were I don't remember)... Because video games!
You mean you experienced all that on datura and remembered it?
In my case it was permanent! I actually met a guy I knew years later who saw me on it and he knew more about it than me which was kind of worrying!
If you take mushrooms, peyote, morning glory or other such psychoactives you are still seeing this world, heightened and distorted as it may appear, whereas with datura you are mentally leaving the real world behind and are perceiving some other reality to everyone else.
I agree with Amioran and don't advise these plants to be taken at all! They are simply too dangerous and not worth it!
How can you say that? It is a serious poison as well as producing insanity?
Yes, jamesjaw, you are wise to leave this plant alone. It can kill!
yeah well it lasts for like infinity eaons at potent doses. the memory loss is only temporary. it's the stuff i dont remember thats frontier knowledge
@LORDwilliamsDJ No, but it is very common here!
Well you didn't post my comment, no, but you posted this one: "So i am not on TH-cam, fuck that's great, it must really work then."...at least that is what it says!
I suppose driving under datura influence is also bad. Darn it
It would be probably impossible and very dangerous indeed, both to the person on the datura and anyone else they could run into. What you are seeing on this stuff is not what is here and where you think you are is not where you are.
I think this is a completely insane world and kept that way on purpose by those at the top!
I suppose you could say the same difference!
It is exceedingly dangerous!
Very good advice - do not consume!
i did it a couple times. once i imagined someone passed me a blunt and said thank you with my hand out. i looked around and my friends were all looking at me like wtf. I think we watched the movie (kindof) ratatouille like 6 times. at least it was on that many times.lol never again. shit makes your vision blurry and my friend almost died once cuz he was doing stupid shit on it.
woah
@beachcomber2008 If I was on it I might be talking to people who weren't really there so yes, an illusion!
If you are not here how did you post this comment?
i only read the comments of Steve himself...
You might be talking to a videocam...
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.... this is an illusion...
Sounds alot like mexican tripping weed or salvia i cant remember but i had some once and i fully left this world i was in my mates room but i thought i was the side of a truck driving through a farm i actually could see the farm all around me and knew that i was just part of a truck and no im not just some amature lol.maybe it affects the same part of the brain. how ever datura sounds like the mother off all hallucinogenics to me.
Hello Rick Sanchez
Well, as someone who has seen others on it, I would say there is no "correct setting" because what you experience on this plant is not in this reality and you might as well be dreaming. You can see and talk with people that are not there, believe you are in places you are not in and do things that make no sense to others in the real world, such as smoking cigarettes that don't exist. It produces insanity!
Was not funny at all.
I agree!
I've heard of people eating 3 or 4 seeds from a dadura pod along with mushrooms to potentiate the trip.
It is stupid consuming any part of the datura! It is poisonous!
This crap sounds more dangerous than alcohol, cocaine and zolpidem combined
Why bother? It is an exceedingly dangerous plant!