Milwaukee M18 FUEL Framing Nailer
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- Milwaukee M18 FUEL™ 30° Framing Nailer (2745-21)
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Milwaukee Cordless Framing Nailer
• Nail Sizes: 2” - 3-1/2”
• Nail Diameter: 0.113” - 0.131”
• Magazine Capacity: 51 nails
• 700 nails per charge on a REDLITHIUM XC5.0 Battery
• Sequential and Contact Actuation Modes
• Dry-Fire Lockout, Belt Hook, Rafter Hook, & LED Work Light, No Mar Tip Cover
First Impression -Milwaukee 30° Paper Tape Framing Nailer
First impressions are important. The first time I picked up the 9.4 lb. nailer I thought it was heavy. The first time I fired a nail I thought WOW this is nailer is powerful, fast and loud!
We used this nailer on framing lumber, plywood and LVL material. It is able to easily sink nails in engineered lumber and can can fire up to 3 nails per second. That’s fast for cordless. The only other nailer that is that fast is the Metabo HPT nailer.
This nailer measures 13.3” w x 14.1” l and 4.7” wide. It was designed to fit between studs and joists. At 9.6 lbs [bare tool] the Milwaukee nailer is 1-lbs heavier than my Makita pneumatic nailer which has a magazine capacity for 2 nail strips.
• Length 14.1"
• Width 4.7"
• Weight 9.4 lbs.
• Height 13.3"
Nail Capacity
The nailer accommodates nail sizes from 2” to 3-1/2” [clipped or full head nails] and comes with a magazine that holds one strip of nails, or an overall equivalent of 43 nails. That’s two nails shy of the 45 nail schedule for nailing plywood panels.
An optional Extended Capacity Magazine [48-08-2745] is available and will allow the nailer to accept two strips of nails, [93 nails] which I highly recommend if you’re doing any real framing. This accessory easily replaces the smaller magazine and is secured in place with 3- Allen screws.
Loading Nails
The Milwaukee has a rear loading nail slot -the nails slide into the bottom of the magazine and then a press of the “pusher-release,” allows the slide mechanism to pass over the nails. There is a spring loaded tab to release the slide mechanism from the nails. Stripping nails and reloading different length nails, from framing to sheathing nails, was, easy and intuitive.
An anti-dry fire mechanism stops the tool with 4-5 nails remaining in the magazine.
Firing Modes
This nailer has fire rate delivers a fire rate similar to pneumatic. It has two buttons. On / Off and a mode button that controls single-sequential and contact-bump fire selections. One nice feature of this nailer is the auto-off feature. The nailer once turned on will stay on for 60-minutes. This eliminates you having to turn it on every time you set it down for a few minutes.
Tool Nose and Hook
As far as framing nailers go I’m a big fan of an aggressive nose tip spur-design. Why? Well when your firing huge pieces of metal you want to ensure that your nailer’s nose securely grips wood, at any angle, for controlled nail placement. No one want to mistakenly fire a nail across a jobsite. Been there done that - not fun! The Milwaukee nailers tip is not as aggressive as I’d like but I did not have any issues using it.
The Milwaukee has a ½” x 2.5” belt hook on the left side of the tool and a 2-1/4” x 3.5” deep rafter hook on the right side of the tool.
Depth of Drive
The depth of drive dial is located on top of the tools nose and is a solid, knurled metal knob that is secured on a threaded rod with a c-clip. This is one of the best depth of drive adjustments I’ve seen. Its accessible from both sides of the tool, and is easily operated with or without gloves.
How’d it work?
The Milwaukee framing nailer is fast. It has a strange sound when firing. When firing the nailer its fast and powerful, you can feel the power in this tool. It was able to keep up on bump fire mode easily.
Runtime
On a XC5.0 Ah battery this nailer will fire approximately 700 nails. That’s about 16 sheets of subfloor or sheathing.
Improvements
I’m impressed with this nailer but if I could improve anything it would be to reduce the weight and lessen the tools activation noise.
Price
The Milwaukee M18 FUEL™ 30° Framing Nailer sells as a kit for $ 450.00
The kit includes: (1) M18 XC5.0 Battery Pack, Charger and Contractor Bag. It sells as a bare tool (2745-20) for $ 350.00 - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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3 years later this is still the best tool review, video content and education anywhere. thorough, succinct and engaging. you and your producers do excellent work rob! this is where I make my purchasing decisions.
@@breezzythumper there’s no producers my friend, it’s me and a tripod. On out Head2Head tests the TBB crew is invaluable with testing
One of the best real world use reviews out! Killer job looking forward to getting the 21° soon!
These are the best tool reviews you can find on TH-cam. Thanks for all the info!
Definitely my favourite tools channel, I trust you guys 100% I really appreciate that you take your time to evaluate tools and give us your best recommendation. Thank you sir for your work, greetings from California.
Yes a head to head up sounds awesome. Great vid
Very Cool Framing Nailer from Milwaukee. Thanks for showing the Milwaukee M18 FUEL Framing Nailer, Rob !!!!!!!!!!!
Milwaukee indeed hit a home run. I’m just doing smaller remodel projects in semi retirement and this is worth every penny. I always hated being tethered to a hose… Powerful and ultra convenient. A must have tool.
Great that you've reviewed so quickly,thanks guy's 👏👍
I like your no-nonsense style. Well done.
Thanks Matt I appreciate that
Would like to see that head to head with the the Metabo HPT and Milwaukee nailers. would like to see an updated circular saw head to head even more tho!
Interesting- well would like to see this in a head to head with other framing nailers since I think you guys do the the best job in the buy every major brand and compare them videos.
pick mine up last weekend LOVE IT
Great review. Using same nailer and absolutely agree Big Red hit out of the park. I'm a big fan of 'serious picks' on the nose of my framers also and for the same reasons. What I've done for years is use a dremel or foredom with appropriate round stone stone shape sharpen the pics in the nose. Works every time. Keep 'em coming!
huh! Really good idea
Appreciate the analysis. 😎
I've been using my M18 15ga finish nailer to frame in knee walls and put up slacks. Worked great....it's out for repair! Hopefully they've fixed the bugs!
Thanks Rob for your review...awesome 👍
Cheers Rob, much appreciated
Hey Rob,
Thanks for your hard work. It would be good to see if you would make a video about how bad Milwaukee's quality and quality control have become. It is amazing to see how some tools are built to a decent standard whereby some tools as just garbage and are not up to a contractor standard. I have had multiple tool failures on almost new tools and some were even out of the box problems. Hope to see something in the near future.
You nailed it too Rob 👍🏻
Thanks again Rob for the very informative review!! I ALWAYS come here first looking for your reviews! It might be awhile before I pick this one up, so hopefully there's no major problems that pop up with this nailer.
As alway keep up the fantastic reviews!!
I had been waiting waiting for this video :)
Great review! Hopefully Milwaukee looks at making it a bit lighter in the future and makes a more aggressive tip. Been waiting for it to come out and will wait a few more months till I pick one up just to make sure they have all the kinks worked out.
Milwaukee tools in 10 years😍🤯
Head2head w/ metabo let's goo!!! Been waiting for this review for a while. Thanks Rob
I agree Johnny
@@ConcordCarpenter I assume you prefer the Milwaukee over the Metabo HPT after a year of use?
Works very well
I’m using the hikoki/Metabo cordless framing nailer and love it. The Milwaukee certainly looks the part it just a shame we couldn’t hear the gun firing considering you mentioned a couple of time the noise issue.
There’s always going to be a weight issue over air nailers but the freedom for me out ways the weight.
great nailer
Lot of sparks coming out of that beast
Love your reviews Rob been looking forward to the Milwaukee framer just as a home-gamer, looking forward to the head-to-head I’m interested in why you’d prefer the Milwaukee over the DeWalt (even though I’m already invested in the Milwaukee platform).
Getting one mid next week, having a really hard time deciding on 21 or 30 degree model. So many pro's and con's.
I went with the dewalt ($250). I'm not framing house, but I do remodels and maintenance. I'm not going through 1k's of nails in one day. Nice looking nailer.
Rob is right. Milwaukee is playing catch up. People have been waiting on a track saw for years now. Glad to see a good framing nailer but let's get back to innovating Milwaukee!
I asked about the Milwaukee making a Track Saw before I bought the Makita. I was told by a TH-camr that Milwaukee doesn't cater to woodworkers but more general construction. Riiiiiiight.
BrianL 2-3 years ago they started looking at the carpentry trades seriously... I’ll bet a track saw will be out soon
In a head to head a drop test would be awesome. It sucks to potentially ruin something, but framers do get dropped from heights (roofs) with no air hose to grab and slow it down a bit, and it does have a rafter hook so it's obviously intended for that use... Anyway, Weve waited so long I don't even care anymore and I bought another nailer instead. Almost a year late on this thing. I'll see how many problems people have the rest of the year before even thinking about it.
Great review. This gun is just about to be released in New Zealand-- skin only (no battery or charger) for $650.00 +15% gst tax, I have my name down to get one of the first ones, can't wait.
Love your reviews bud.
Loving it so far I have to say. But without extra rack it holds surprisingly few nails
Thank you for the video.
Love my Milwaukee framing nailer
I love my Metabo HPT, but will also be getting this as well. On both platforms so might as well🤟🏼
I would like to see if you can swap out the nail clips and convert a 30 degree to a 21 degree just by changing the clip..it looks like a extra screw hole that will change the angle.. love to see you try it out .. great videos as always Rob
Yea I have been thinking of this to replace my paslode cordless. The expense of buying the gas cartridges is considerable. I also haven’t found them to be overly reliable. Still think I should wait to see how the reliability is with these Milwaukee guns first
Awsome Video I’ve been looking to purchase m a bother nailer i have the Dewalt cordless and I like it but just feel like I should give Milwaukee cordless nailer a chance looks like a solid and strong nailer thanks for sharing
My 18ga Brad nailer.....is a jewel!
awesome video well done 👍👍🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦🛠️
I wanted this nailer, but the delays in releasing it sent me to Metabo. I'd love to see a heads-up between the two, but now I have two Metabos,and it'll be a long while till they are done, and I like them. Its a shame as I have lots of milwaukee tools and batteries.
Milwaukee sells every replacement part to every tool online. Ive used that to fix a couple tools out of warranty. Its really convienent.
@KILLER Notforhire someone sounds jealous, whats the matter, cant afford quality?
@KILLER Notforhire
All tools break or fall apart over time.
Assisi friends on how people use tools some couldn't give any fucks about breaking tools, even if it's an important tool
I’ve got the new m12 radio on pre order 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Milwaukee came in late but they end up being the best in class.
I'll end up getting the Milwaukee nailer, but not right now. I've got 3 pneumatic Bostitch guns, 2 in 21 degree and one in 28 degree. I keep o-ring kits and spare anvils if required, so I can repair just about anything that would break on a daily basis.
For me, one place I won't use cordless tools is on a roof. If I clip off my airline to my belt, the tool won't go ever the edge. You sit it down, and it WILL go over, no if's, ands or buts.
The weight of cordless is a lot when framing all day and walking rafters. But anythingggg that’s semi small the cordless nailers are worth it. I hated paslodes but the weight makes them the go to if you want cordless for all day framing
I got tired of waiting on Milwaukee to bring these out and went with a cordless Hitachi. Very happy with it. I wish Milwaukee had the guts to be honest about what exactly caused the delays. Either way, im looking forward to a head to head for the fun of it. Hoping someone tears one of these down too and see the guts of it.
Sounds like a job for A.V.E.
The need to have it sent to a service centre is making me hold off, if it was something I could refill or service myself it would be an instant buy. I'm still thinking of going with the paslode, actually costs less and is well proven.
The gas tanks raise the price over time. I've used the 16 gauge Paslode for over 5 years, but never liked their framer. This M18 is next on my list.
This is a must have for me. No need to pull out the compressor! I cant wait to get one!
Nice one Rob
thanks
Over here in Vancouver you can get the Milwaukee kit for $650 or get a pneumatic nailer for $200-$400+, then get a twin stack 1hp 4.6 gal compressor for $500 then fittings and hoses…just get the Milwaukee if its light duty
I'd definitely like to see the head to head. Like many others I waited a long time for Milwaukee to release this gun but ended up jumping on the Hitachi instead. I have no regrets it's an awesome nailer, holding up really well I can justify buying another until the hpt dies on me but in the event it would be awesome to see how they compare.
Or0s
I was in the same boat as you.
My Gen one Milwaukee 18g cordless nailer spent more time in the repair shop, than in my hand. So I was a little gun shy when it came time to purchase their framing nailer.
I went the Hitachi / Metabo HPT route instead.
The rafter hook is too big, for my work flow, I’ll replace it with more appropriate sized one shortly.
Do you run any other Hitachi gear how is it I'm considering switching from Milwaukee to Hitachi as seem to have to many trigger problems with Milwaukee
@@chefsteven34 I've had the same experience with the 15 ga. I sent it in twice because it would jam and I couldn't get it unjammed. After the third time it happened I threw it out of the truck. I do have the 18ga. Metabo which gets used far more than the 15 and it's not given me any issues. It's a bit more bulky but I'll take that over just not working any day.
@@leonhingston7511 I haven't tried anything other than the nailers. I use Milwaukee drills, impacts and sawzalls and have 2-3 of each. I haven't had any issues with any of those. I have a lot of other Milwaukee products like radios, vacs I haven't had issues with as well. I tend to go with whatever corded brand has served me well through the years and use their cordless tools as well. I've been tempted to go buy some metabo tools since I have some of the multivolt batteries but I just can't justify it.
@@leonhingston7511 I have broke so many milwaukee m18 tools it isn't funny...but i'm heavily invested in the platform so I keep buying. So far a sawzall, 2 circular saws, 2 , 1/4" impact guns and a 1/2" drill have all gone tits up. They dont like the rain much I will tell you that. On the bright side the batteries seem bulletproof.
I said this about the Milwaukee 16 g fixing gun “ PUT A 1 Inch LONGER NOSE SO YOU CAN GET INTO CORNERS !!!!!!” ....ahhh I’ll still buy it
I dont need to tell you I watched it to tell you I already like it!!
Ps. Yes I'm watching
Hello Rob!! I wanting this gun badly!
The best review on TH-cam 🤚🏻 the gun is way to heavy , if they can make it lighter that would be great .
Hearing this wont be out in the uk until end of the year. Have a dormer to build, so will have to go pneumatic, as I'm on Milwaukee battery platform. Shame
Looks great for punch out. Now i can ditch the impulse. I agree more aggressive tip for us stick framers. Will it hold up to the drop test? We all know when hanging roof guns will get dropped. Lets do some drop test. Like when setting the main ridge, 30' drops?
Pay attention to wtf you’re doing and don’t drop it
Already sold out on The Home Depot website.
I was looking at the 21degree nailer. The testing I saw was 3” ring shank nails, going into an LVL beam. Needless to say I was impressed.
I don't think they're sold out (I could be wrong), I think they're just not available yet. I'm not sure you can pre order on home depot website, that's why it shows out of stock. I checked several days ago (avout a week or so) and it said it was out of stock but only because it isn't available yet. I haven't checked lately though.
melgar palma
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll ask my local Milwaukee rep.
@@chefsteven34 no problem, sounds good, I'm waiting for them to be available to get it, too. The wait is worse knowing it's still several days before it even gets shipped haha
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A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz
Thank you Rob.
I heard about this Milwaukee framing nailer about a year ago, & waited a WHILE, for it to arrive. I finally ordered the Hitachi / Metabo cordless version.
There are too many tools that I would like to buy right now. The tool addiction skit you guys did a while back, hit close to home. With every trip to the Depot or Lowe’s - my eyes wander.
Then I get an email from Tool Nut - with the Festool remodelers kit with close to a $500 savings. Then comes a text message from Klein, with the new vented, reversible, hard hat, & the rechargeable headlamp. (Do I need to replace mine?) Yes, in orange please. Summer is on the was, do you want to get the Full brim version as well? Yes, in white please.
Safety first, & being prepared is a time saver.
Where do I stop? How many nail guns do I need?
One more please.
Man I love mine lol but it’s pretty heavy but beats carrying a air compressor and hose
Keen boots are great. Hate that they charge extra for the extended clip
Yea they could definitely have put extra weight on it
i like this Milwaukee but my cordless tools are mostly Makita, what do you suggest
The reason I want this one is the extended clip. No one else has the long clip in a battery gun.
Hilti has
*Magazine lol
I wish they had a cordless roofing nailer :/ I'll stay with the hose until then
Another Great character by Bob mortimer!
Here in Ireland its 800.00 euro for the kit with charger and 2 batteries in a toolbox (not bag) they are 5ah batteries not xc and 600.00 bare tool as another viewer commented the price kills sales in different countries
D m here in Australia it’s 750 just for the tool and 1000 for the kit
Rob, please *use the crap out of it to root-out any problems!*
I have 5 year old milwaukee tools even 1st gen. Blew allot of m12 motors. M18 is where its at but dont overwork em theyll pay you back every penny if you work in trade or diy
Alot of sparks come out from this gun..is it from the full head nails?
Let’s wait a few years before declaring how good a tool this will be. We all know how some of their gen 1 tools have gone. But we love to be prisoners of the moment.
Ken’s Festool Channel - you have a valid point and it’s understandable esp. after Gen 1 fiasco. But If any cordless nailer lasts a few years - it’s worth it. Cordless tools have a lifespan of cycles. Tool companies won’t share that number but think like 1000,000 or 200,000 or XXX? nails before service or replacement.
A few years of regular use is worth it
A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz You are correct. My Hitachi cordless lasted for about 6 months of heavy use before I had to send it back for a gas refill as it was starting to misfire and lacked power. Nothing lasts for ever...
@@fredericcouto141 warranty though? milwuakee is 5 year on tools, i havent had a tool a tool fail and not be warrantied yet, brushed angle grinder i leaned on for too long with a couple 9.0s back to back blew the smoke out understandably and they gave me the fuel model for free, brushed drill was in for new brushes once, no claims with the brushless grinder or circ saw, no issue with radio m18, impacts 1/4" and sawzall and i beat all my tools regularly, get them so hot you need welding gloves to use them and they keep going
Close your mouth Ken....you FesFool !
gen 1 was bad. Been very happy with gen 2 including framing nailer so far.
one thing that cordless tools has against all else is that you don´t have to adapt to when ever the Spark turns off the power in the building.
Waiting on mine from Ohio power tool. I have a shed to build.
Yes please do a head to head against the metabo
You said its heavy but from what I have read its a lot lighter than the Dewalt battery powered framing nailer, you own both maybe you could compare them and see if you may have misspoken as its not really apples to apples to compare it to air or fuel cartridge nailers.
7:03 You said it's too load? From what I've heard on other reviews it's respectively a lot quieter than other framing nailers.
Can't wait for my to come ,great review
Any idea if the new technology in this gun will be added to the brad nailers etc
I have the gen 2 brad nailer and it shares all the same technology as this tool minus how it loads, and depth of penetration. It loads from the top/side and you slide the clip into place after. I believe he did a review on it if you look. So far I've loved it and it's super small holes it leaves behind.
yes they have upgraded thier nailers
@@ConcordCarpenter the 16ga? THought just the 18
Im wondering if you can get the extended mag in both 21 and 31 deg and use both on the same gun.
I wish I could afford one right now. Definitely gonna buy one in the future.
Very nice..now hopefully makita will hurry up and add one of these to the LXT line. Still not the end of the world for me as I just overwhelmingly prefer screws to nails in most situations, but obviously sometimes speed is everything.
Makita has one patented and it showed the same flywheel type drive system as the dewalt. Not a nitrogen cartridge like Milwaukee.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 Which is sort of what I'm hoping for. I don't use a nailer often and as such would rather not deal with additional consumables, especially gas cylinders.
@@OmegaGamingNetwork no gas cartridges with this gun. battery only
How good that framing gun
$350 bare tool sounds like a steal. In the UK it's pre-order at £536 bare tool.
ouch. Buy 2 and there's a plane ticket...
Hey Rob, great review as always. You mentioned having issues with your current DeWalt cordless nailer. Do you have the old DCN692 model or the new DCN21PL? The newer model could address some of your reliability issues your team is experiencing.
newer
... is a really complex nail gun, fireworks are included or is a special edition just for you ?
I'm looking at this gun or the Paslode gun. Thoughts?
Nice, hopefully Ryobi will one day soon come out with one as well.
What took them so long?! They lost a sale as I went with the Metabo/Hitachi system. Couldn't be more happy with my Metabo framer.
Just returned a metabo framer. 3rd metabo nailer return in 4 months. Now I have a this.
Where the sparks coming off of the nail gun when you fire the Nail gun And to in to Plywood 🍻🥃
someone stole my packout from my truck that had my nailers in it in the home depot lot. I'm really trying to hold off until black friday to see if any deals come up. My nailers that were stolen were Paslode, which I never really had any issues with, considering I still have a few milwaukee batteries left and a handful of their cordless stuff in there (my gen 3 drill & impact was in the packout), i'm considering this setup. I've never used any of the milwaukee nailers whether it be the framer, brad or 15ga. Since you seemed to have used them for a while how are they holding up. Trying to do my research before i buy.
Will this gun accept the BECK fastener blue tipped nails?
Thanks!!
Can we please have a duel face off with the Milwaukee framer VS (Hitachi , hikoki , metabo hpt framer ).....PLEASE!!! Thx Rob!!!
Which degree is a better option 21 degree or the 30 degree gun? what’s the benefit? thanks!
Cordless nailers would work better than air driven in very cold work. Our framers have 10 air driven nailers and always have one or two in repair due to ice freezing in them in winter. Electric would eliminate that issue.
Under $500 in the US, that reasonable, but it'll probably cost twice that in the UK.
It's price here in the UK that's slowing down Milwaukee sales, some Makita equivalent tools are nearly half the price, yet both are great for everyday work.
D Reardon I started my working career with Makita and switched to Panasonic ,when I started getting battery issues due to non comparability I cracked it and switched to Milwaukie , Iv had the Milwaukee for about ten years now and the Makita tools are looking tempting to buy .
So what I'm trying to say is I may replace it all again with Makita and finish my working career where I started .
@@splashpit 35yrs in the trade and have used just about every named brand out there, they all have their own issues, I went from Makita to Milwaukee because of the batteries, might have considered Makita again but they're still too far behind with the battery technology.
Best cordless framing nailer coming up next??
If you are falling from a plane with no parachute pray to god you have a compressor hose because thay thing will get caught on something and save your life.
Too generous; itll only get caught on something when you dont want it to. The rare occasion that youd like it to catch on something it will slide past it like a buttered snake.
I heard that over 20 years ago.
🤣🤣🤣
Great review, as always! Which Pneumatic nail gun is your favorite for general framing?
RIGID pneumatic I bought 17yrs ago at Home Depot. The lifetime warrantee is what sold me. If it breaks you can take it to your local Home Depot and they'll give you a loaner nailer to use until yours gets back after being replaced or repaired. Just register the nailer online or mail in the registration warrantee card. A lot of Rigid cordless and pneumatic tools have the lifetime warrantee if you register them.
@@jetenginethrust863 Thanks!
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