@@sean_connors Yeah, it's unfortunate they didn't make it but it's been 25 years, they could still do it but it wouldn't mean they'd have to exclude Disco. Any TNG movie made is for TNG fans, it'd be exceptionally difficult for someone who knows nothing about Trek to jump in and have a clue about what's going on at this point, that isn't so much the case for Discovery, someone who don't know jack shit about Trek can watch it without getting confused, there's Klingons, Andorians, Vulcans, humans and a time traveler who no one knew about until Discovery, nothing to get confused about. There is also an added bonus of introducing a new audience to the pre TOS Enterprise crew, mainly Christopher Pike, who could easily becone a series of its own. The way I see it, there's room in the Trek universe for just about anything they choose to throw at us. If it does well, the ratings will tell, if it does bad, the ratings will tell that too. I'm not particularly a huge fan of Disco, my outlook for it got a little better when they moved it out of the prime timeline and moved it so far into the future that fucking up the canon is now an impossibility, but I'm still not too optimistic about it. That said, the last episode of TOS aired 3 years before I was born, my Father tried to get me interested in it in the early 80's, I hated it, I thought the sets, makeup, everything was horrible and the cheesiest thing I'd ever seen, barring 'Lost in Space' and I thought, at the time, the storylines were even cheesier. Then TNG rolled around in '87 and I hated it almost as much as I did TOS. I did not realize at the time that a certian amount of TOS cheese flavoring was required in order to get the old fans back interested before they could transition to better sets, graphics etc. I didn't get into TNG until a little over halfway through season 2 but when I finally did get into it, I didn't miss an episode. After that, I finally watched TOS and rewatched TNG again. It wasn't until that point that I really began to see exactly how pertinent the show was, some episodes addressed events and issues that were going on in real life at that time, others are still going on and those episodes are still just as pertinent today as they were when they aired over 50 and 25 years ago respectively. The problem they had with TOS was presentation, they had neither the technology nor the imagination to present it better but they got their point across without ruffling the feathers of certian demographics too bad, which was exactly what Roddenberry had in mind. I've watched TOS through about 3 times and TNG about 5, I didn't get a chance to watch DS9 or Voyager first run but I plan to watch those soon. I did watch ENT first run and it was eh, not too bad but not top shelf Trek either, but that was ok because it opened the door to a new generation of people who had missed out on TNG a decade earlier. Had it not been for TNG, I would have totally missed out on TOS, I would never have voluntarily watched it before TNG came around and I'm quite certain that ENT probably did the same for a lot of people who would never have given neither TNG nor TOS a chance. I said that to say this, Trek changed my mind about more than a few things for the better and each time I watch an episode or a season, I notice things I missed before and make connections I hadn't noticed before and a lot of those have made me see some things from a point of view I had never thought of before. I'm not saying Trek changed my life or core belief system or drastically changed my outlook on the universe, but it did teach me a few things. IF Disco is able to do that too, then it will have served its purpose. IF it totally flops but still gets people who ordinarily wouldn't have given Trek a second thought, then it has served its purpose. IF Disco gets just a handful of people interested enough in Trek to go back and watch at least a few episodes of TOS or TNG, or better yet, the whole series, then it will have opened the door to another generation who just might get something out of it that just might change their minds about some backwards thinking ideas they may have which is what Gene Roddenberry had in mind when he created Trek. Regardless of what happens to Disco, it has peaked a new interest in the franchise and if, or when things go way south, there will be something else that will come along to take its place and hopefully it will be better, and hopefully it'll be a little closer to what Trek was supposed to be. Every series won't be for everyone but the really cool thing about Trek is that it takes place across a galaxy of about 200-400 billion stars, and there were more alternate realities created in TNG than anyone can count so there's plenty of room for the writers to create new series, both good and bad so don't get overly discouraged over one show, there's never been a series or movie yet that's broken Trek and I don't expect there will be, at least not anytime soon.
Enterprise C shows that the Federation was Honor bound and the Klingons value honor over all. Super powerful story and one of the best episodes of anything ever put on TV.
You're telling me that the Enterprise only managed to take down one warbird...and that by self-destruction? Come on, Kirk would have taken out at least 2-3 before having to blow it up.
I like to believe the Klingons wrote songs about the Enterprise C and her crew to honor them. And on that outpost that she and her crew gave everything to try and save there is a memorial with the name of every crewman who died doing what was right. They couldn't know it, but the C made all the difference.
Rachel Garrett and the crew of the Enterprise although fictional are inspiring to all Trek fans, and the Ambassador class deserves more screen time. Thanks to the creators of this film
One thing I noticed in that Episode is that Captain Garrett didn't even recognize Captain Picard! Picard had been in Command of Stargazer at the time of Narendra III and would have met Captain Garrett more than a few times. Oh and another underused Star Trek ship the Constellation Class.
I wish the people who made this had also made an episode about the battle from the DS9 episode 'Once More Unto the Breach'. Specifically in regards to the final fight of Kor, the Dahar Master. One Bird of Prey against an entire Jem'Hadar fleet, buying time for the rest of the Klingon fleet to reach the Defiant, and succeeding. The death of a Warrior and the birth of a Legend.
I love the introduction to the Star Trek theme. I'm surprised the destruction of the Enterprise-C didn't result in an escalation of hostilities between the Romulans and the Federation.
I'm more surprised the Kilngons haven't done something about this attack on one of their colonies by the Romulans. After all, his people were attacked and allies were killed for coming to the aid of Narendra 3.
There was pushback on the Romulan Klingon border( taking Khitomer and several other worlds). It's just the empire didn't want to escalate the Federation side.
It sort of did; there is a Cold War element present throughout much of Next Gen going into DS9 which lasts until the Romulans join the war alliance, notably after the Tal Shiar are all but destroyed. There are a lot of near misses in the Next Gen, but in this instance here the critical point is that the Romulans attacking do NOT represent the central government.
I agree with these other comments. A painful battle to see, but the honor and loyalty of the Enterprise Starfleet crew yet again showed the commitment in Starfleet to justice and sacrifice when needed. A pivotal battle that greatly deepened the trust and mutual alliance of the Federation with Kronos. One of the best episodes I've seen. Thanks to those who fleshed this out. Long live the Federation of Planets!
@@iamsuzerain3987 I'm afraid your timing is off. The launch of the USS Enterprise-B which was an Excelsior class, was not a decade after Khittomer accords (ST:VI) Non aggression pact was accomplishment for Spocks generation. Italian guy in his late 20s said he'd be shy middle aged guy at the party if she ever saw him again. Sacrifice of the EntC led to further thaw with Klingon Empire and true peace treaty
I saw Yesterday's Enterprise tonight and I'm so glad i did it was the best episode to me. i loved the how the futuristic Enterprise took over to cover the older enterprise the crew all looked very good very excellent sound effects awesome military leadership Captain Picard .Excellent director.Thank you for making this movie.
The moment the Enterprise-C returned to her time, she should have been able to take at least a few dozen hits, not just one. She can't have taken just one hit and been disabled.
she took 2 future kvort class disruptor shots just before entering the rift in yesterdays enterprice, plus the damage she took when the captain was killed.
@@franciscojavierrivera7962 I agree with you on that plus it made their shields very weak to at least 25 maybe 30% and their hull integrity may have been compromised badly
@@franciscojavierrivera7962 She still took out a couple of Romulan ships. And even dieing her explosion took out another Romulan vessel. C was one tough ship.
@@IceWolf-23 and what is this based on? How much damage does a kvort distruptor do? How powerful are the Enterprise C's Shields/armor? None of this is specified anywhere.
@@NeverDoubtMe23you think about it, that before they entered they took a couple of nasty hits that weakened the shields badly. plus the shields were weakened badly as the Klingons killed the Captain so that suggests that the shields were down to 25-30% as they didn't take much punishment from the Romulans before they were forced to abandon ship which they then put on self destruct
This video is absolutely amazing and it fills in the gaps for one of my favorite next-gen episodes ever which was of course yesterday's Enterprise. You guys are unbelievably talented thank you so much for making this
You really can't feel sorry for the Romulans in the new Picard series lore established. its Intergalactic karma. they were always doing these terrible acts. remember how they started the war after season 4 of Enterprise on star date 2160. Then on star date 2266. Captain Kirk of the Enterprise engaged the Romulans at the Neutral zone after they had attacked a few federation colonies. Then in the undiscovered country they tried to breakoff the peace talks between the Klingons and the Federation on Star Date 2293, . They also launched an unprovoked attack on a Klingon Colony at the battle of Narendra III Star Date 2344. On which the Enterprise C was lost. they then attacked Khitomer in a similar fashion to Narendra III on star date 2346. Then there was the Incident at Galorndon Core Star on which they were building a base in federation space on star Date 2366. Then the Trap set for the Enterprise at Nelvana III on Star Date 2366. Adding to this list is the fact that they started the Klingon Civil war on star date 2367.. They also had spies in the Federation High Counsel. Ambassador T'pel who was actually sub-commander selok Star Date 2367. They also tried to take control of Vulcan with a false unification On star date 2368. almost starting a war they'd probably lose badly. years later they tried to destroy Deep space Nine on star date 2371. They finally stopped the Bull and admitted that they wanted the Federation to fall had on star date 2374. On Star Date 2375 they tried to take control of one of Bajor's moons ''Derna'' preparing for the next war and expanding their territory into Federation/Bajoran space. And Finally on star Date 2379. they released their final bid to take the Federation with a Picard clone spy. They deserved to lose their home world. They're worse than any other race in the 2 quadrants
This video isn't without it's flaws, however the Enterprise C is beautifully rendered, and I like how you matched the shots of both Enterprises together with those used in the actual episode. I always thought the Enterprise C was a beautiful ship, it's amazing to see her in flight like this :D
@@Jason75913 The D can look good, but only from some angles, and others it looks bad. Also depends on the model used. Some have too big saucer dimension and it looks wrong like you say.
A couple of nits... as previously mentioned, Yar states that the photons are depleted, so they should be firing lots of them before the anomaly. Also, Captain Garrett mentions a "fierce volley of torpedoes," indicating both sides were firing torpedoes at each other when the rift formed. Finally, the Enterprise-C had shields when she went back through the rift but in your vid she gets hit a couple times and powers down, no shield impacts. She also should have been fighting like a champ on return, with Yar at tactical, she will still get defeated but maybe takes out a ship before they cripple her. On the positive side the video looks AMAZING! As do all your videos. Keep up the good work!
@@johnstacy7902If that was the case they should have blown that warbird to pieces and the other 2 would have each taken out another warbird. 22 years of development and all that.
Knowing Klingons, and knowing their beliefs in honor, seeing them see a Federation ship, let alone an Enterprise defend to the death a Klingon colony is totes what the Klingons would love.
I kinda hated JJs Trek. I see little respect for the Enterprise itself. Damaged in every battle like it had no shields at all. To me, that's not respecting the true Trek ideal.
I think the complete opposite. I think JJs Trek was a wonderful homage with a modern restored 60's Hot rod look. In regards to it taking damage I was reading that it was because making believable shields in modern films was difficult. It's ok for the older movies to get away with a big green bubble of a shield but that not how realistically shields would work. Even star wars films don't have consistent shield effects.
As do I, it's been made clear in the television series' so the alternate universe is not Star Trek at all, but Roddenberry's works are, and always will be.
The biggest problem is that the Klingons were willing to go to war with the Federation for 22 years over what they thought happened to their colony, but when they find out it was the Romulans who did it they do nothing? Typical bs Star Trek writing.
@@chissstardestroyer Roddenberry died halfway through the TNG and many of his executive producers started taking away control from him as he became more "senile". It's unfair to ONLY give credit to Gene. TNG, DS9, and Voyager are amazing without Roddenberry and still gave him a great homage. We shouldn't be biased just because something isn't as close to the original as possible. Creativity takes many forms.
Yes, but there is a major, major flaw with that dedication plaque.... that Enterprise, would in fact... actually be the 5th ship in Starfleet named Enterprise To begin with, in order: 1. NX-01 Enterprise 2. NCC 1701 Enterprise 3 NCC 1701-A Enterprise 4 NCC 1701-B Enterprise 5. NCC 1701-C Enterprise So, thereby That would make it the 5th, to bear the name Enterprise, not the 4th...
Wolfchacer01 ---would her Trek character be Klingon? That would be pretty dope imho. She could even have a Klingonesque version of her throwing-ring-weapon that she holds up as she yodles. 😂. I wish that guy was being serious when he said Quintin was writing a script for this!
Absolutely right! "Yesterday's Enterprise" was my all-time favorite episode. I remember when it came out and I told co-workers (whom I had gotten addicted to Trek as well) that Tasha would make an appearance again later in the series because she had gone into the past. I bet them that she lived and by gosh, I was right. Nothing is impossible in science fiction.
+Soren Ingram Agreed, especially "Children? On the Enterprise?", then with "Parallels" Berman and staff backed themselves into a corner. With Worf bouncing around all those differing realities, we can have our TOS universe intact, say that the Bermanverse is an alternate reality [with many sub-realities] and the JJverse, with wrinkled Spock, another [and Vulcan is A.O.K.] universe with even more skewed laws of physics [like a supernova affecting a star system thousands of light years away almost instantly, where in RL, one would have said same thousands of years to evacuate Romulus] and where that wasn't the real Scotty because in STVI he bought a boat, with the idea of staying close to home and therefore that wasn't the real Kirk because the 'E-B' was in the Bermanverse. etc. etc. yadda yadda yadda. {and still hope Ballentine re-publishes the "Star Trek Maps" where the real Warp Scale is, in the booklet, but I won't hold my breath on that one......... :) }
A great imagination of what happened to an Enterprise that did her duty in only the most formidable way. Thanks for filling in this gap! Perhaps this could be incorporated into a future movie or series. The period after Enterprise B's launch but before Picard is not well defined and fascinates me to no end.
Towards the end of the battle, after the Enterprise-C had come back through the temporal rift, I thought it was a great touch how three photon torpedoes were fired anticipating the flight of the Romulan Warbird such that all three impacted at the same point on the Warbird's shielding, thus concentrating the attack.
Why is the Enterprise-C not firing photon torpedoes prior to entering the temporal rift? In "Yesterday's Enterprise," Tasha Yar reports to one of the Enterprise-C officers that their photon banks are depleted which indicates that they fired all of their photon's prior to entering the temporal rift.
Exactly! Where was the heavy barrage of torpedoes that was mentioned in Yesterday's Enterprise. The overwhelming torpedo fire is what caused the rift in the first place.
Yea I agree but in this version the Romulans decloaked and fired before Enterprise could raise shields, or the shields hadn't fully powered up before that first disruptor blast hit...after that it was kinda game over...it looked like C got hit near the impulse engine causing catastrophic damage...could be the impulse drive powered the torps in that class of ship? Dunno... Really frikkin amazing vid tho...modeling was top notch!
A fully crewed and armed Starship answering a distress call from a planet being attacked would NOT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS enter said system without having shields up and weapons powered up. They did an overall good job but COMPLETELY ignored any tactics what so ever. As Doug mentioned it was the barrage of torps and the probable destruction of a ship that would have caused the rift. This just has it magically forming from nothing while the Enterprise is half-heartedly throwing out an occasional shot for fun. I mean really what tactical officer isn't going to fire everything when they are passing close by not 1 but 2 of their enemies? A shuttle could have put up more of a fight before the rift!
@@Davey-TheDJ I hink she probably had shields down initially as the accompanying text says that she was preparing to transport medical teams to the surface. As for torpedoes, she does fire some at the Romulan Warbird after she disables its shield. If I recall correctly, torpedoes are hugely effective weapons, but against unshielded ships; they're not very effective against shields (the ending of Star Trek VI not withstanding...). There's a reason why (for instance) the Enterprise D usually fires Phasers, not Photon torpedoes.
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I know this doesn't fit with the original storyline of the episode, but the thought occurs to me of an alternate explanation for the time rift. What if it was Q who made the rift, to once again test Picard. Alter the timeline itself to see if Picard could think outside the box and realize that the alternate future was wrong and must be eradicated? Just a half-baked theory...
That's an amazing theory. Maybe the new Star Trek Picard series will have a similar idea, and maybe all events forward are an alternate time line, and they're all, Voyager, TNG, DS9, all exist in the Picard timeline like how the Calvin Timeline came about
Nice rendering and excellent use of music. Well executed, though like many would have liked to see large exchanges of torpedo before the rift. Ideal: Enterprise comes out of warp witnessing bombardment of colony. Romulans cloak. Enterprise moves over colony and is attacked with shields up. Mixed torpedo and phaser fire damage one warbird though Enterprise is pummeled in return and maneuvers towards pole where launches large barrages of torpedoes and destroys another warbird, though is heavily damaged in return, losing shields with hull breaches. Rift forms from one of the many torpedo explosions, in front of Enterprise as Romulans close in... As Enterprise emerges from rift, it takes more hits, though shields are restored and concentrated phaser fire destroys a warbird, though Enterprise shields are again taken down and takes significant damage including loss of first a nacelle and then power and begins to tumble. Escape pods are launched towards planet. One warbird moves and retrieves them while another closes in on the wreck, destroyed when it explodes from matter-antimatter explosion...
Very nicely done, including selection of music, dialog clips and sound effects. My only criticism has to do with the Enterprise-C waiting so long to begin using photon torpedoes, their most powerful weapon. Given the 3 to 1 odds they were facing at the beginning of the battle, they would have started to employ them almost immediately.
What a different story it would have been if War!Picard had taken the Enterprise D through along with them. Because nothing says screw you like 22 years into the future full on BATTLESHIP appearing out of a rift...
The super question would be what would have happened with the fragile peace between the Federation and Romulan empire in case the Enterprise D would show up and destroy all 4 romulan vessels. It could very possibly lead to an all in war with the Romulans and given how much more advanced the romulan tech was compared to the Federation (Starfleet), it simply could be a catastrophic chain of events leading to a total Romulan victory over the Federation. That would be a pretty high price to pay for the small victory over 4 warbirds. Oh god... we are talking about possible past / future and diplomatic consequences of a TV Series :D are WE the nerds? :D (ps: i know i am 10 months too late to this topic) :)
@mandellorian I am not sure i follow your train of thoughts here. the Enterprise C was outmatched here, and given that the Enterprise is the flagship of the fleet its pretty telling that other ships were not up for this standard - which means those are unlikely to take out any Warbirds. The cloaking devices and their disruptors are pretty much the edge they need against Starfleet. And the other thing is Romulan tactics are not ... how can i put it... is not about 1:1 fights. they are flying in flocks. They were pretty much given up their plans only because the Klingon Empire aligned themselves with the federation. and them together were too much for the Romulan Empire. I mean even the Klingons were too much for the 24th century Starfleet (Pickard himself tells the the Captain of the Enterprise C that defeat is inevitable and maybe they have 6 months left.) (and pretty much if the C and D together smashed the Romulan warbirds, the Klingon Empire might not have joined the Federation, but rather side with Romulans - which would inevitably lead to the loss of the Federation) But are we really arguing about a theoretical timeline on which there is no guideline to follow but our imagination? i mean i might be wrong but i haven't seen anything which would tell us how the Klingon / Romulan empire would develop in case the Klingons decide not to be friends with the Federation. (and also a Star Trek series however dire the situation is will have to come out as victorius anyway else the series would need to change title :) instead of Star Trek -- it would be Romulan Trek or something :D) in THAT sense, yeah of course, Starfleet would win by some miracle or something... resurrected Kirk or more timetravel... where they would convince the future that they were already helping because they ARE the future, which means they already gone back and helped, so they must do the same... so Sovereign Class battleships would appear and smash the Romulans :) i mean what a story it would have been "and the last starfleet vessel exploded... and with that the federation lost, the following decades had some local fights to break the resistance, but at the end the Romulans took control. A century later the Romulan empire destroyed the Klingon empire too... the end" :)
@@mityaboy4639 Enterprise D helping out would spark war? But the raiding warbirds were from mavericks, so this was closer to a pirate raid than official Romulan military engagement. Not something to declare war over no matter the situation. It would almost be like England declaring war on Spain because Spanish galleons sunk Blackbeard's ship, lol USA did not declare war on Mexico when Pancho Villa tried raiding US border towns in order to provoke US military involvement in Mexico's civil war. They could have, but it was no cause for that, though they did try to chase down and arrest Pancho Villa. Now a pair of Starfleet ships defeating Romulan raiders in defense of Klingons would still go over well with the Klingon Empire, just not quite like dying in a hopeless battle as the Enterprise C originally did. And like you said, Federation + Klingon Empire is too much for the Romulan Empire, so a future similar to what TNG takes place in normally is the most likely turn of events. Something you sound like you might be assuming is that the Romulan fleet is going to be entirely composed of those warbirds in the vid, those are clearly heavy cruisers of sorts (judging by their size next to the Enterprise) and will never be the majority of a fleet. Like Starfleet, most of the Romulan and Klingon navies are smaller, lighter ships simply because heavy cruisers and battleships/dreadnoughts are the most expensive, nevermind that too many big ships would limit projection of military power (and thus affect politics, too) and limit military presence in space, which then also limits the ability to retain conquered territories. I, too, doubt that the big warbirds will fare well against multiple Ambassador class ships in a proper fleet battle of a military campaign, and smaller warbirds and other light cruisers and frigates will get picked off by Mirandas and whatever other small Federation ships. Enterprise C was extremely unlucky to get ganged up on by multiple large warbirds and lose shields right at the start of the fight (or the fight would have been longer).
good job. I would have thought though that the opening of the rift would have been caused by an exploding romulan ship over the magnetic pole mainly because a romulan core uses an artificial singularity as its power source and we have seen in other episodes such as "timescape" that it can have an affect on temporal space.
You know, thinking about the Romulan's using lots of artificial singularities for power makes me wonder if that had anything to do with the time rift that was caused when their sun went nova and sent Nero back in time. It would fit nicely with this same incident.
Yes that seem much more likely. Given their use of singularities as power source, basically a little black hole, there is no powering down the black=hole. Were the ship destroyed it would be freed and become wild feral B.H, GOBBLING UP EVERYTHING IN IT'S GRAVITY WELL..
A distant star went Nova and threatened the entire Galaxy... I mean really WTF? Jar jar verse indeed! How is a Nova supposed to threaten another star system in anything short of a few hundred years if they are VERY close? Not to mention that at those distances the threatening Nova shock wave would have dissipated to such a degree a modern shuttle could handle it never mind a planet! It is just such tripe!
Dear Romulan ambushers, If you're clever enough to sneak up on a renowned Federation starship and disable it without destroying it, you should be clever enough to make sure it's not rigged to blow up with you. You have scanners to analyze what's going on aboard the enemy ship and transporters to send engineers to defuse explosive situations. If you need me to explain all of this to you, I hope the Tal Shiar executes all your commanding officers for incompetence, preferably before you can cause more preventable destruction. Sincerely, Starfleet Admiral FissyQuil
To be fair, they likely did scan it and detected the explosives and likely realized the fact that any enemy ship captain worth their dilithium would have rigged the ship to explode the moment anyone beamed aboard or tried to enter externally. Even if they got past that, there would most likely be some kind of anti-tamper mechanism that would blow them up the moment they tried to defuse it or go near it. The Enterprise-C was going to explode and take as many Romulans with her as possible and nothing was going to stop her. The Romulan captains likely knew that but had to try with Tal Shiar agents aboard. The idea being they MAY die trying to capture Federation secrets and technology, they most certainly WOULD die if they didn't try. Either face Federation booby traps or Tal Shiar disruptors
Maybe Romulan sensor tech was better or worse than its Federation counterparts, we can assume there was an arms race but we don't know who was ahead. But 1701-C did have some future-tech upgrades ... plus an officer armed with knowledge, training, and "hindsight" decades ahead of her adversaries ... it seems quite plausible for them to fool Romulan sensors. For comparison, think of modern military stealth systems or computer encryption systems vs their counterparts from the 1990s.
But its the sacrifice of the Enterprise C that pivots the Klingons towards the Federation. Perhaps winning wouldn't have been enough, maybe their deaths were needed for that shift in Klingon opinion to happen, for them to view it as honorable.
I think their sacrifice was necessary, what Kirk would have done is find some way for the containment breach to take out all of the warbirds at once. Perhaps he would plan to escape with his crew at the last second, but failed, leading to the sacrifice of his ship and his crew depicted, and showing both the tactical skills and the bravery of Starfleet, leading to the solidifying of the alliance.
The Romulan fleet was actually sent secretly by the Praetor himself to attack a few Klingon worlds aiming at increasing his glory with a quick war and a quick victory over a far weaker enemy, but rogue commanders foiled his gamble, costing him just about 5 warbirds out of 7 as it turns out; at least according to the novels.
Good effects, but the descriptions giving every step of the battle need to be removed. When the Enterprise explodes in a Romulan warbird is cotton explosion, for instance, you don't need a title card that says "the Enterprise was destroyed it took a Romulan warbird with it in its antimatter explosion." We _just_ saw that and it slows down the action, better to just show than to over explain.
The wonder of diverging timelines and alternate realities is that they must all exist simultaneously. The horror is that bad writers and awful directors and idiot producers are able to worm their way into infesting every possible universe.
Wow this was really well done. The C is probably my favourite of the Ambassadors aside from the classic D. Always wished we could have had a series about C and her crew.
Great animation, though why it took so long to fire photon torpedoes (and even then, only one volley from the forward launchers, never mind the rear launcher) is puzzling.
VideoSpaceFX Not so big mystery, and you know it. Shame on you messing with Quessir. The Enterprise C crew maintained the space-time continuum by losing like they were supposed to. But losing with honor.
Quessir Federation Starships only carry a limited number of torpedoes. Photon torpedoes are capable of variable levels of yield according to need and are capable of stripping a vessel of its shields with a single hit at maximum direct yield. The problem there is that, at close range such as this, maximum yield would damage or destroy the firing vessel if it's shields were down. Starfleet policy is to use phasers to strip targets shields before using torpedoes when inside a range of 40km. This extends the use of torpedoes and prevents damage to the firing vessel. Also, the Romulans probably targeted the aft torpedo launcher, not hard to find if the Enterprise had its shields down, to prevent them firing.
Michael Saumure Interesting bit of information, thanks for that. I'm aware that phasers are used to strip shields before the torpedoes can get in there and do real physical damage, but as to the danger to the firing vessel, they needn't have used maximum or even near maximum yield - one torpedo can do massive damage, as we've seen countless times during the shows and films. One thing I did note is that the Romulans appear to be firing disruptors only in the animation. Captain Garrett reported that the last thing she remembered was a "fierce volley of photon torpedoes", so the Romulans were apparently able to fire them at such distances, at yields safe to themselves, as the Enterprise surely was capable of (ignoring the rear launcher, which we'll assume is damaged). I only see disruptor fire in the animation. One last thing is that torpedoes do great damage to shields themselves. They obviously don't have the precision of phasers, being explosive devices, but explosions in space generally are not a good thing and a single torpedo might have gone a long way.
+Quessir one thing that is consistent throughout Trek from original series through Voyager ,is the inconsistency of Trek Tech and engineering, even as far as the scale of ships varying.
This was pretty good, Yesterday's Enterprise is among my favorite TNG episodes. The Ambassador class is actually my favorite design, second is the Miranda class. I always wanted at least a movie featuring the Enterprise-C. Instead, all I get is crap put out by Abrams and CBS. Boycott Star Trek Discovery, don't get STD!
This was definitely a missed opportunity, someone should have miniseries of enterprises b&c. Rachel Garrett would be fantastic to watch as a captain in command of Enterprise C. And Captain John Harris as Captain of Enterprise B.
The Enterprise C has always been a very special ship to me, mostly because it was the first piece of Star Trek I had ever seen. It's painful to see her go down but at least it was not in vain
Doesn't that describe MOST of the Star Trek Movies out there? Asisde from First Contact and MAYBE Insurrection all Star Trek movies are shit. And when I posted that I was high as fuck and had just watched that episode too so visuals weren't really at issue.
Yeah, also, I'm a proud ASSHOLE but I'm not sure if you can say that about all Ent-C fans, nor do I understand how simply liking this makes me an ASSHOLE. But hey, I am (everyone else in the world is an ASSHOLE too) so it's all good.
Very well done! I've always wondered how the Enterprise-C got caught in that temporal vortex. And I really like how you ended the story, very satisfying with the planned explosion of a captured Federation vessel.
Most impressive. Nothing was over the top. Everything was well thought out. I saw nothing that disrupted previously established facts and instead, filled in some gaps. I wonder how the Romulans missed the overload trick, but perhaps they disregarded anyone else being inclined to act as they would. Certainly their arrogance might have cause that oversight. I supposed if they rigged it to slowly build and then suddenly fail, it might have just looked like the result of battle damage. I'm very impressed by the thoughtfulness of this video.
I actually saw ONE simple gap in this. (After watching the episode 'Yesterday's Enterprise') the Klingons were as well involved in this battle. There is only the Enterprise C. (Man I sound nerdy.) and 0 Klingon ships involved in this battle. If this was a perfect rendition of the battle, then how exactly do the Klingons know that the Enterprise-C fought and died for there outpost? But other then that, very entertaining.
nightcrowred I had thought that as well, but then I wasn't sure. I thought maybe they had analyzed wreckage post-engagement. I would have thought there would be at least one Klingon ship somewhere, but I couldn't remember from the episode.
Probably the same way that the Klingons missed the engine overload of the original NCC-1701 until they were standing on the bridge looking at the countdown clock.
AdmiralKarelia At first blush, I see how it appeared that way. However, you have to consider when we hear the Klingons talking to each other in English, they're actually talking to each other in tlhIngan. They just do it in English to make it easier on the actors, the audience and the sub-title budget. Conversely, there's no reason to believe the Klingon boarding party understood the English countdown. You could argue they should have figured out the general idea from the cadence, but they were feeling pretty cocky at the time.
Jalfmar3 and also they were probally at least in some way glory hogs the warriors that boarded anyway or were young warriors with the only veteran there being the captain hence his response
VideoSpaceFX I think he means that as this footage was never shown in the Star Trek canon(to my knowledge), it shouldn't be called a remastered edition.
0megasight From video text above: Original upload (5 Sept 2010) www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdU-M4... Re-composed, post-processed and upscaled into 720p HD with a few minor edits (but no newly rendered scenes) this is the remastered edition of the original video with 288,000 views as of this upload. Remastering comparison at 14:35. To make this look really good the best thing would have been to re-render everything, but I just wasn't up for that so I have made it look the best it can with other tweaks.
@@KLamki1 Funny, I happen to agree with the comment from 0megasight. Just because VSFX has technically been correct thanks to the small print, but the title is a blatant and initially misleading attention grab. Not subscribed or gone other footage of theirs. The fan-fic or Memory Beta level should be clearer UP TOP.
This for me was one of the most pivotal moments in Starfleet history, the C was powerful starship but no match against several warbirds but fought valiantly. In a TNG you get the impression the Klingons Realised that they and the federation was a true Friend as opposed to the romulans, who frequently showed their distain of the Klingons. Froren her death captain Garret was a badass
I was moved by this depiction of the "Battle of Narendra III" I was confused by mention of the Beta Quadrant but that would be nitpicking. Folks unfamiliar with canon who are interested in Star Trek and it's vision of the future would learn about discrepancies either by research and/or learning from others who enjoy sharing with other Trekkers/Trekkies. I especially like the distant view of the Enterprise and the Romulan War Bird at 4:52. I suppose it was the sight of what we know to be massive ships in battle seen as tiny objects in the vastness of space. That was a nice touch. What are acts of war compared to the incomprehensible vastness of creation? Perhaps it's the willingness to honorable sacrifice oneself for the welfare of others that provides meaning. Keep up what you're doing! It may inspire the Negative Nellies of the galaxy to contribute something inspiring as well. \\//,
Others have mentioned "some confusion" about referencing the Beta Quandrant, but I don't know why -- the Klingon Empire exists there, and I had always presumed that Nerendra III was proximal to there. (The Federation is primarily in the Alpha Quadrant, so maybe that's what some people are thinking...). Just saying...
If you look up maps of the galaxy from the Star Trek universe then Earth is on the Alpha-Beta border. So just to the one side your in Alpha quadrant and to the other Beta. As such then the Klingons are mostly in Beta and the Federation is in both. There are many potential enemies in Alpha that are never really talked about or dealt with in TOS or TNG while DS9 is kind of limited in what they can deal with but they do mention some of them during the Dominion War and of course Voyager is strictly Delta.
While I greatly applaud the effort this took, I'm curious about something. Why do the Romulans use no beam technology and the Enterprise C uses no torpedoes for what amounts to about 7 minutes of combat? I could see if battle damage took out the launchers, but they never even tried before the rift. Also, why do weapon impacts from phasers and disruptors cause a change in the ship's direction, as if those things have mass? As far as I recall, externally, there's never been this type of reaction to beam or pulse weapon impacts in canon (with the sole exception of the Defiant against the Borg in First Contact). The only exception has been torpedo impacts, and that's never been consistent. Just curious as to the choices.
LOL, loved how the entire ship got vaporised into nothingness and yet some how the plaque of the ship managed to escaped the destruction of the enterprise without even a single scratch on it. Wow Starfleet really know how to build those plaques :P
The Klingon homeworld is called Qo’nos. Other than that and the lack of photon torpedoes being launched, this is an absolutely splendid effort! (Maybe you could have had “C” destroy one of those bastards in actual combat, but I’m just nitpicking now. Well done!)
Yesterdays Enterprise should have been made into a feature length movie, waaaaay too much happened to be limited to just one episode.
Tell it like it is brother kha 🤘🤪🤘 phah
Ohh yeah
Yet they come up with STD instead.
100%. Would have been a better plot than any of the TNG movies except for First Contact.
@@sean_connors
Yeah, it's unfortunate they didn't make it but it's been 25 years, they could still do it but it wouldn't mean they'd have to exclude Disco. Any TNG movie made is for TNG fans, it'd be exceptionally difficult for someone who knows nothing about Trek to jump in and have a clue about what's going on at this point, that isn't so much the case for Discovery, someone who don't know jack shit about Trek can watch it without getting confused, there's Klingons, Andorians, Vulcans, humans and a time traveler who no one knew about until Discovery, nothing to get confused about. There is also an added bonus of introducing a new audience to the pre TOS Enterprise crew, mainly Christopher Pike, who could easily becone a series of its own. The way I see it, there's room in the Trek universe for just about anything they choose to throw at us. If it does well, the ratings will tell, if it does bad, the ratings will tell that too. I'm not particularly a huge fan of Disco, my outlook for it got a little better when they moved it out of the prime timeline and moved it so far into the future that fucking up the canon is now an impossibility, but I'm still not too optimistic about it. That said, the last episode of TOS aired 3 years before I was born, my Father tried to get me interested in it in the early 80's, I hated it, I thought the sets, makeup, everything was horrible and the cheesiest thing I'd ever seen, barring 'Lost in Space' and I thought, at the time, the storylines were even cheesier. Then TNG rolled around in '87 and I hated it almost as much as I did TOS. I did not realize at the time that a certian amount of TOS cheese flavoring was required in order to get the old fans back interested before they could transition to better sets, graphics etc. I didn't get into TNG until a little over halfway through season 2 but when I finally did get into it, I didn't miss an episode. After that, I finally watched TOS and rewatched TNG again. It wasn't until that point that I really began to see exactly how pertinent the show was, some episodes addressed events and issues that were going on in real life at that time, others are still going on and those episodes are still just as pertinent today as they were when they aired over 50 and 25 years ago respectively. The problem they had with TOS was presentation, they had neither the technology nor the imagination to present it better but they got their point across without ruffling the feathers of certian demographics too bad, which was exactly what Roddenberry had in mind. I've watched TOS through about 3 times and TNG about 5, I didn't get a chance to watch DS9 or Voyager first run but I plan to watch those soon. I did watch ENT first run and it was eh, not too bad but not top shelf Trek either, but that was ok because it opened the door to a new generation of people who had missed out on TNG a decade earlier. Had it not been for TNG, I would have totally missed out on TOS, I would never have voluntarily watched it before TNG came around and I'm quite certain that ENT probably did the same for a lot of people who would never have given neither TNG nor TOS a chance. I said that to say this, Trek changed my mind about more than a few things for the better and each time I watch an episode or a season, I notice things I missed before and make connections I hadn't noticed before and a lot of those have made me see some things from a point of view I had never thought of before. I'm not saying Trek changed my life or core belief system or drastically changed my outlook on the universe, but it did teach me a few things. IF Disco is able to do that too, then it will have served its purpose. IF it totally flops but still gets people who ordinarily wouldn't have given Trek a second thought, then it has served its purpose. IF Disco gets just a handful of people interested enough in Trek to go back and watch at least a few episodes of TOS or TNG, or better yet, the whole series, then it will have opened the door to another generation who just might get something out of it that just might change their minds about some backwards thinking ideas they may have which is what Gene Roddenberry had in mind when he created Trek. Regardless of what happens to Disco, it has peaked a new interest in the franchise and if, or when things go way south, there will be something else that will come along to take its place and hopefully it will be better, and hopefully it'll be a little closer to what Trek was supposed to be. Every series won't be for everyone but the really cool thing about Trek is that it takes place across a galaxy of about 200-400 billion stars, and there were more alternate realities created in TNG than anyone can count so there's plenty of room for the writers to create new series, both good and bad so don't get overly discouraged over one show, there's never been a series or movie yet that's broken Trek and I don't expect there will be, at least not anytime soon.
Enterprise C shows that the Federation was Honor bound and the Klingons value honor over all. Super powerful story and one of the best episodes of anything ever put on TV.
what the Klingon never realise is that the Federation would have done the same even if they didn't have a treaty.
I agree cause the Klingons value honour above everything else
Gorilla Jones you can say that again!!!
@@ginataylor6357 Gorilla Jones has a very good point
You forgot 1 thing the romulans scowed themselves with this battle since after words the klingons and federation became close allies
Amazing show accuracy, right down to the frustrating habit of enterprises firing one shot every 5 minutes.
I know right? No photon firing at all pre-wormhole...
They can't fire more often than that otherwise the tactical officer would be in danger of getting carpal tunnel.
You're telling me that the Enterprise only managed to take down one warbird...and that by self-destruction? Come on, Kirk would have taken out at least 2-3 before having to blow it up.
@@wills6230 Kirk would have transported over to seduce and/or punch the commander of one of them.
@@Klaaism What do you mean "or?"
I like to believe the Klingons wrote songs about the Enterprise C and her crew to honor them.
And on that outpost that she and her crew gave everything to try and save there is a memorial with the name of every crewman who died doing what was right.
They couldn't know it, but the C made all the difference.
Merecido o memorial.
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they must have known hence why the klingon empire didnt go to war witht he federation
Yesterday's Enterprise is one of the Best episodes of star trek tng
Unfortunately they did not extend the story of the Enterprise C it could have been a good 3 part story for the Enterprise C if they did
Yes it is
I agree it is by far one of my favorite 😍 episode's
I was glad they brought Tasha Yarr back, even if just for a minute. Probably everyone would agree her death was too sudden.
As a kid I recorded Yesterday's Enterprise episode on VHS and probably watched it a dozen times.
Rachel Garrett and the crew of the Enterprise although fictional are inspiring to all Trek fans, and the Ambassador class deserves more screen time. Thanks to the creators of this film
"I am Locutus of Borg
Records show that Capt Garrett Died after Enterprise C fell through a temporal rift.
She died to a Klingon attack"
One thing I noticed in that Episode is that Captain Garrett didn't even recognize Captain Picard! Picard had been in Command of Stargazer at the time of Narendra III and would have met Captain Garrett more than a few times. Oh and another underused Star Trek ship the Constellation Class.
One of the most important events in the history of Star Trek. This needs to be brought to film.
Exactly the enterprise C is painfully underused. I'd like Paramount+ making a 1-2 season mini series about this once Picard is done.
I agree. Maybe we would get to see what a 000 destruct 1 sequence would look like.
I wish the people who made this had also made an episode about the battle from the DS9 episode 'Once More Unto the Breach'. Specifically in regards to the final fight of Kor, the Dahar Master. One Bird of Prey against an entire Jem'Hadar fleet, buying time for the rest of the Klingon fleet to reach the Defiant, and succeeding. The death of a Warrior and the birth of a Legend.
Yessssssssss.
Yesterday's enterprise is undoubtedly the best episode ever written in the entire star trek franchise
feel bad for Kor, with the klingon Alzheimer’s and all, but glad he went out like any klingon could hope
I'll be honest. That made my eyes misty when Kor decided to go out as a warrior. That was writing! And that was Star Trek!
DS9 is not Star Trek.
Let's make sure history never forgets the name , ENTERPRISE !!
let's make sure the enterprise takes more photon torpedos with them next time.
Or another Battle Star
@@riphaven
More? I must have missed one because I didn't see a single one used, only phasers.
thats what im saying!!! the photon guy must of been on his union break.
@@0pnMnded just before the romulan ship cloak at the end they shot few then got hit
I love the introduction to the Star Trek theme. I'm surprised the destruction of the Enterprise-C didn't result in an escalation of hostilities between the Romulans and the Federation.
I'm more surprised the Kilngons haven't done something about this attack on one of their colonies by the Romulans. After all, his people were attacked and allies were killed for coming to the aid of Narendra 3.
@@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740, They did, resulted in the Romulan-Klingon war.
Romulans are the modern day democratic party-- they have destroyed this once great country
There was pushback on the Romulan Klingon border( taking Khitomer and several other worlds). It's just the empire didn't want to escalate the Federation side.
It sort of did; there is a Cold War element present throughout much of Next Gen going into DS9 which lasts until the Romulans join the war alliance, notably after the Tal Shiar are all but destroyed.
There are a lot of near misses in the Next Gen, but in this instance here the critical point is that the Romulans attacking do NOT represent the central government.
I agree with these other comments. A painful battle to see, but the honor and loyalty of the Enterprise Starfleet crew yet again showed the commitment in Starfleet to justice and sacrifice when needed. A pivotal battle that greatly deepened the trust and mutual alliance of the Federation with Kronos. One of the best episodes I've seen. Thanks to those who fleshed this out. Long live the Federation of Planets!
Federation and Klingon Empire had a non-aggression pact but were not yet allies. No obligation.
@@DrSmooth2000this battle led to that outcome
@@iamsuzerain3987 I'm afraid your timing is off. The launch of the USS Enterprise-B which was an Excelsior class, was not a decade after Khittomer accords (ST:VI)
Non aggression pact was accomplishment for Spocks generation.
Italian guy in his late 20s said he'd be shy middle aged guy at the party if she ever saw him again.
Sacrifice of the EntC led to further thaw with Klingon Empire and true peace treaty
Have to love Picard’s line when asked to surrender “That’ll be the day”
Estou contigo.
Such a beautiful yet sad story for such a gallant yet little known Enterprise.
As much as I love all the Enterprises from NX-01 all the way up to F, the C was most beautiful of them all IMHO, and my personal favorite.
I saw Yesterday's Enterprise tonight and I'm so glad i did it was the best episode to me. i loved the how the futuristic Enterprise took over to cover the older enterprise the crew all looked very good very excellent sound effects awesome military leadership Captain Picard .Excellent director.Thank you for making this movie.
The moment the Enterprise-C returned to her time, she should have been able to take at least a few dozen hits, not just one. She can't have taken just one hit and been disabled.
she took 2 future kvort class disruptor shots just before entering the rift in yesterdays enterprice, plus the damage she took when the captain was killed.
@@franciscojavierrivera7962 I agree with you on that plus it made their shields very weak to at least 25 maybe 30% and their hull integrity may have been compromised badly
@@franciscojavierrivera7962 She still took out a couple of Romulan ships. And even dieing her explosion took out another Romulan vessel. C was one tough ship.
@@IceWolf-23 and what is this based on? How much damage does a kvort distruptor do? How powerful are the Enterprise C's Shields/armor? None of this is specified anywhere.
@@NeverDoubtMe23you think about it, that before they entered they took a couple of nasty hits that weakened the shields badly. plus the shields were weakened badly as the Klingons killed the Captain so that suggests that the shields were down to 25-30% as they didn't take much punishment from the Romulans before they were forced to abandon ship which they then put on self destruct
This video is absolutely amazing and it fills in the gaps for one of my favorite next-gen episodes ever which was of course yesterday's Enterprise. You guys are unbelievably talented thank you so much for making this
Yesterday's Enterprise is my absolutly favorite Star Trek episode.
It's FENOMENAL to see this battle.
But I miss also the shields.
You really can't feel sorry for the Romulans in the new Picard series lore established. its Intergalactic karma. they were always doing these terrible acts. remember how they started the war after season 4 of Enterprise on star date 2160. Then on star date 2266. Captain Kirk of the Enterprise engaged the Romulans at the Neutral zone after they had attacked a few federation colonies. Then in the undiscovered country they tried to breakoff the peace talks between the Klingons and the Federation on Star Date 2293, . They also launched an unprovoked attack on a Klingon Colony at the battle of Narendra III Star Date 2344. On which the Enterprise C was lost. they then attacked Khitomer in a similar fashion to Narendra III on star date 2346. Then there was the Incident at Galorndon Core Star on which they were building a base in federation space on star Date 2366. Then the Trap set for the Enterprise at Nelvana III on Star Date 2366. Adding to this list is the fact that they started the Klingon Civil war on star date 2367.. They also had spies in the Federation High Counsel. Ambassador T'pel who was actually sub-commander selok Star Date 2367. They also tried to take control of Vulcan with a false unification On star date 2368. almost starting a war they'd probably lose badly. years later they tried to destroy Deep space Nine on star date 2371. They finally stopped the Bull and admitted that they wanted the Federation to fall had on star date 2374. On Star Date 2375 they tried to take control of one of Bajor's moons ''Derna'' preparing for the next war and expanding their territory into Federation/Bajoran space. And Finally on star Date 2379. they released their final bid to take the Federation with a Picard clone spy. They deserved to lose their home world. They're worse than any other race in the 2 quadrants
This video isn't without it's flaws, however the Enterprise C is beautifully rendered, and I like how you matched the shots of both Enterprises together with those used in the actual episode. I always thought the Enterprise C was a beautiful ship, it's amazing to see her in flight like this :D
its nice except the nacelle pylons. should have been more connie like if you ask me. but i get it, its a result of the excelsior
I like the Enterprise C design much better than the Enterprise D. The latter just feels like a meme-ified version of the former.
@@Jason75913 The D can look good, but only from some angles, and others it looks bad. Also depends on the model used.
Some have too big saucer dimension and it looks wrong like you say.
A couple of nits... as previously mentioned, Yar states that the photons are depleted, so they should be firing lots of them before the anomaly. Also, Captain Garrett mentions a "fierce volley of torpedoes," indicating both sides were firing torpedoes at each other when the rift formed. Finally, the Enterprise-C had shields when she went back through the rift but in your vid she gets hit a couple times and powers down, no shield impacts. She also should have been fighting like a champ on return, with Yar at tactical, she will still get defeated but maybe takes out a ship before they cripple her.
On the positive side the video looks AMAZING! As do all your videos. Keep up the good work!
she restocked from the the Newer Enterprize.
@@johnstacy7902If that was the case they should have blown that warbird to pieces and the other 2 would have each taken out another warbird. 22 years of development and all that.
The Enterprise C destroyed one Warbird and hit another nearly to death. Much is wrong in this and i thought it is remastered.
@@johnstacy7902 No, Picard refused restocking "C", Tasha only had the upper hand because of modern starfleet maneuvers
Yes in dialogue you are right. Cannon states the C took out 3 of 4 romulans warbirds, so the battle was not so one sided.
watching Enterprise C go back through the rift knowing they were going to their deaths,,,,,, right in the feels man
Well there was that misadventure in STO where it went to the 25th century and got captured by the Tholians.
Knowing Klingons, and knowing their beliefs in honor, seeing them see a Federation ship, let alone an Enterprise defend to the death a Klingon colony is totes what the Klingons would love.
I do consider it real Star Trek in the spirit of Roddenberry, unlike JJTrek, even if it does have issues.
I kinda hated JJs Trek. I see little respect for the Enterprise itself. Damaged in every battle like it had no shields at all. To me, that's not respecting the true Trek ideal.
I think the complete opposite. I think JJs Trek was a wonderful homage with a modern restored 60's Hot rod look.
In regards to it taking damage I was reading that it was because making believable shields in modern films was difficult. It's ok for the older movies to get away with a big green bubble of a shield but that not how realistically shields would work. Even star wars films don't have consistent shield effects.
As do I, it's been made clear in the television series' so the alternate universe is not Star Trek at all, but Roddenberry's works are, and always will be.
The biggest problem is that the Klingons were willing to go to war with the Federation for 22 years over what they thought happened to their colony, but when they find out it was the Romulans who did it they do nothing? Typical bs Star Trek writing.
@@chissstardestroyer Roddenberry died halfway through the TNG and many of his executive producers started taking away control from him as he became more "senile". It's unfair to ONLY give credit to Gene. TNG, DS9, and Voyager are amazing without Roddenberry and still gave him a great homage. We shouldn't be biased just because something isn't as close to the original as possible. Creativity takes many forms.
The scene with the plaque: right in the feels
Yes, but there is a major, major flaw with that dedication plaque.... that Enterprise, would in fact... actually be the 5th ship in Starfleet named Enterprise
To begin with, in order:
1. NX-01 Enterprise
2. NCC 1701 Enterprise
3 NCC 1701-A Enterprise
4 NCC 1701-B Enterprise
5. NCC 1701-C Enterprise
So, thereby That would make it the 5th, to bear the name Enterprise, not the 4th...
@@madmardigan7662 NX-01 was pre-Federation
an incredible display of writing, and of acting talent, put forth in an episode in which you know the inevitable outcome at its beginning. astounding.
Thank you, it’s nice to see the enterprise c again, even if it was it’s last battle.
This should have been made into a stand alone episode.
I really loved the Design of the Ambassador class. It’s so clunky, so endearing. Doesn’t look like a cross between a spoon and a bloated space whale.
Agreed, it was the last Enterprise to have a proper circular saucer instead of an oval.
It actually looks more like a Constitution MkIII than the Star Trek Picard Constitution MkIII. The Saucer resembles the Constitution Class Saucer.
Well done.
I still get chills when Captain Picard says his speech
BRILLANT 🤘🤪🤘
The Enterprise-D plaque says fifth starship, therefore Ent-C is fourth if counting Federation ships named Enterprise. NX-01 is Earth Starfleet.
1701, 1701A, 1701B, 1701C, 1701D
I would like to see a movie on Enterprise C with Lucy Lawless as Captain Rachel Garret. It would be a master piece with her as the Captain.!
Quenton Tarantino said he'd like to do a movie on that episode. the writers are working on it now.
That would be Epic, she could do that battle scream as she enters battle and floor everybody lol
Hell yeah! Could we maybe have Jennifer Lawrence come in as Tasha Yar as well?
Wolfchacer01 ---would her Trek character be Klingon? That would be pretty dope imho. She could even have a Klingonesque version of her throwing-ring-weapon that she holds up as she yodles. 😂. I wish that guy was being serious when he said Quintin was writing a script for this!
"Wait a minute, Xena can't fly!"
"I'm not Xena, I'm Lucy Lawless." ·
The ambassador class is a good design the enterprise-c was a good ship went down fighting to help the Klingon colony against four romulan ships.
So, on the 9th minute the Enterprise C crew recalled that the ship is armed with photon torpedoes.
And this my friends is how Empress Sela of the Tal Shiar came to be...
To give their lives in service of the galaxy. Thats the humanity i hope we become.
Me too friend.
Same
This is really, really well done. Still brings a smile to hear that Trek theme played at the beginning!
A healthy DLC for one of the best TNG episodes. Well done.
yesterdays enterprise may be the pinnacle of TNG
Soren Ingram Indeed. Combat, personal drama and close adherence to science theory. Classic.
Absolutely right! "Yesterday's Enterprise" was my all-time favorite episode. I remember when it came out and I told co-workers (whom I had gotten addicted to Trek as well) that Tasha would make an appearance again later in the series because she had gone into the past. I bet them that she lived and by gosh, I was right. Nothing is impossible in science fiction.
lower decks might tie even
+Soren Ingram
Agreed, especially "Children? On the Enterprise?", then with "Parallels" Berman and staff backed themselves into a corner. With Worf bouncing around all those differing realities, we can have our TOS universe intact, say that the Bermanverse is an alternate reality [with many sub-realities] and the JJverse, with wrinkled Spock, another [and Vulcan is A.O.K.] universe with even more skewed laws of physics [like a supernova affecting a star system thousands of light years away almost instantly, where in RL, one would have said same thousands of years to
evacuate Romulus] and where that wasn't the real Scotty because in STVI he bought a boat, with the idea of staying close to home and therefore that wasn't the real Kirk because the 'E-B' was in the Bermanverse.
etc. etc.
yadda yadda yadda.
{and still hope Ballentine re-publishes the "Star Trek Maps" where the real Warp Scale is, in the booklet, but I won't hold my breath on that one......... :) }
+Richard Collingsworth dude, look at memory Alfa, it gives the scales of warp factor to light speed ratio, for all eras, as it does change
A great imagination of what happened to an Enterprise that did her duty in only the most formidable way. Thanks for filling in this gap! Perhaps this could be incorporated into a future movie or series. The period after Enterprise B's launch but before Picard is not well defined and fascinates me to no end.
Hey look, more non CBS stuff that's more fun to watch then CBS produced stuff....
Hopefully the nightmare that is discovery will end soon.
No. May it continue forever and ever just to spite you.
You can say that again, I mean a spore drive c'mon people.
Towards the end of the battle, after the Enterprise-C had come back through the temporal rift, I thought it was a great touch how three photon torpedoes were fired anticipating the flight of the Romulan Warbird such that all three impacted at the same point on the Warbird's shielding, thus concentrating the attack.
I always wonder how that battle played out - thank you for this interlude to how it ended!!!
Why is the Enterprise-C not firing photon torpedoes prior to entering the temporal rift? In "Yesterday's Enterprise," Tasha Yar reports to one of the Enterprise-C officers that their photon banks are depleted which indicates that they fired all of their photon's prior to entering the temporal rift.
could be that hits to key areas may have prevented the use of the torps.......like a hit to a power coupling
+Nico Ferguson then they would still have the tops.
it bugged me too. enterprise just didn't seem to be fighting all that hard
Exactly! Where was the heavy barrage of torpedoes that was mentioned in Yesterday's Enterprise. The overwhelming torpedo fire is what caused the rift in the first place.
Yea I agree but in this version the Romulans decloaked and fired before Enterprise could raise shields, or the shields hadn't fully powered up before that first disruptor blast hit...after that it was kinda game over...it looked like C got hit near the impulse engine causing catastrophic damage...could be the impulse drive powered the torps in that class of ship? Dunno... Really frikkin amazing vid tho...modeling was top notch!
A fully crewed and armed Starship answering a distress call from a planet being attacked would NOT UNDER ANY CONDITIONS enter said system without having shields up and weapons powered up. They did an overall good job but COMPLETELY ignored any tactics what so ever. As Doug mentioned it was the barrage of torps and the probable destruction of a ship that would have caused the rift. This just has it magically forming from nothing while the Enterprise is half-heartedly throwing out an occasional shot for fun. I mean really what tactical officer isn't going to fire everything when they are passing close by not 1 but 2 of their enemies? A shuttle could have put up more of a fight before the rift!
Ambassador-class has been my favorite Federation vessel ever since I first laid eyes on it,
This is like watching a video game from the 90's. How fun.
Very very nice!
I think this is very in the style of TNG. Well done :)
I strongly agree!
Why doesn't the Enterprise have shields where are the Torpedoes from the Enterprise C? I don't think it's very good show
@@Davey-TheDJ I hink she probably had shields down initially as the accompanying text says that she was preparing to transport medical teams to the surface. As for torpedoes, she does fire some at the Romulan Warbird after she disables its shield. If I recall correctly, torpedoes are hugely effective weapons, but against unshielded ships; they're not very effective against shields (the ending of Star Trek VI not withstanding...). There's a reason why (for instance) the Enterprise D usually fires Phasers, not Photon torpedoes.
It's tremendously easy to see why this Video has 1,250,000 views, wow. This is just one of the best stories I've ever seen from a fan team, you all blew it out of the Park. Everything is beyond amazing, the love and huge amount of effort you put in just gushes everywhere. This is one of my favorite STNG stories, they pulled no punches and just knocked it out of the park. It really got "The Borg Treatment" they spent and made it huge. The way you just put together what is a damn good story, it just fills in all the blanks. Great job, I know it's 8 years old but I hope you're still cranking them out. Love to see some 4K.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly well done in every detail and format provided indeed Sir!.
This is awesome. Thank you to whomever made this!
I know this doesn't fit with the original storyline of the episode, but the thought occurs to me of an alternate explanation for the time rift. What if it was Q who made the rift, to once again test Picard. Alter the timeline itself to see if Picard could think outside the box and realize that the alternate future was wrong and must be eradicated? Just a half-baked theory...
That's an amazing theory. Maybe the new Star Trek Picard series will have a similar idea, and maybe all events forward are an alternate time line, and they're all, Voyager, TNG, DS9, all exist in the Picard timeline like how the Calvin Timeline came about
The most heroic Enterprise. Even the original didn't *know* she was about to die.
Nice rendering and excellent use of music. Well executed, though like many would have liked to see large exchanges of torpedo before the rift.
Ideal: Enterprise comes out of warp witnessing bombardment of colony. Romulans cloak.
Enterprise moves over colony and is attacked with shields up. Mixed torpedo and phaser fire damage one warbird though Enterprise is pummeled in return and maneuvers towards pole where launches large barrages of torpedoes and destroys another warbird, though is heavily damaged in return, losing shields with hull breaches. Rift forms from one of the many torpedo explosions, in front of Enterprise as Romulans close in...
As Enterprise emerges from rift, it takes more hits, though shields are restored and concentrated phaser fire destroys a warbird, though Enterprise shields are again taken down and takes significant damage including loss of first a nacelle and then power and begins to tumble.
Escape pods are launched towards planet. One warbird moves and retrieves them while another closes in on the wreck, destroyed when it explodes from matter-antimatter explosion...
This was well done. I like the explination. Please continue to create these sort of things.
Informative. Useful. Calming. Inspiring. Life-changing. Enjoyable. Heart-warming. Other.
Very nicely done, including selection of music, dialog clips and sound effects. My only criticism has to do with the Enterprise-C waiting so long to begin using photon torpedoes, their most powerful weapon. Given the 3 to 1 odds they were facing at the beginning of the battle, they would have started to employ them almost immediately.
Space the final frontier, these are the 11-pm to 7-am voyages of the Enterprise's Night Crew and it's continuing mission is to PARTAYYYY!!
Let's make sure history forgets the name: Discovery.
What is Discovery, I already forgot?
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Shhhhh, it's a secret, only a few are supposed to know it ever existed, at least not for another 900 years.
Lets make sure history forgets the name Star Trek
I like the way you showed a three dimensional approach to the battle instead of it taking place on one plane like TNG seemed to always do.
What a different story it would have been if War!Picard had taken the Enterprise D through along with them. Because nothing says screw you like 22 years into the future full on BATTLESHIP appearing out of a rift...
The super question would be what would have happened with the fragile peace between the Federation and Romulan empire in case the Enterprise D would show up and destroy all 4 romulan vessels. It could very possibly lead to an all in war with the Romulans and given how much more advanced the romulan tech was compared to the Federation (Starfleet), it simply could be a catastrophic chain of events leading to a total Romulan victory over the Federation. That would be a pretty high price to pay for the small victory over 4 warbirds.
Oh god... we are talking about possible past / future and diplomatic consequences of a TV Series :D are WE the nerds? :D
(ps: i know i am 10 months too late to this topic) :)
@mandellorian I am not sure i follow your train of thoughts here. the Enterprise C was outmatched here, and given that the Enterprise is the flagship of the fleet its pretty telling that other ships were not up for this standard - which means those are unlikely to take out any Warbirds. The cloaking devices and their disruptors are pretty much the edge they need against Starfleet. And the other thing is Romulan tactics are not ... how can i put it... is not about 1:1 fights. they are flying in flocks. They were pretty much given up their plans only because the Klingon Empire aligned themselves with the federation. and them together were too much for the Romulan Empire. I mean even the Klingons were too much for the 24th century Starfleet (Pickard himself tells the the Captain of the Enterprise C that defeat is inevitable and maybe they have 6 months left.)
(and pretty much if the C and D together smashed the Romulan warbirds, the Klingon Empire might not have joined the Federation, but rather side with Romulans - which would inevitably lead to the loss of the Federation)
But are we really arguing about a theoretical timeline on which there is no guideline to follow but our imagination? i mean i might be wrong but i haven't seen anything which would tell us how the Klingon / Romulan empire would develop in case the Klingons decide not to be friends with the Federation. (and also a Star Trek series however dire the situation is will have to come out as victorius anyway else the series would need to change title :) instead of Star Trek -- it would be Romulan Trek or something :D)
in THAT sense, yeah of course, Starfleet would win by some miracle or something... resurrected Kirk or more timetravel... where they would convince the future that they were already helping because they ARE the future, which means they already gone back and helped, so they must do the same... so Sovereign Class battleships would appear and smash the Romulans :)
i mean what a story it would have been "and the last starfleet vessel exploded... and with that the federation lost, the following decades had some local fights to break the resistance, but at the end the Romulans took control. A century later the Romulan empire destroyed the Klingon empire too... the end"
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@@mityaboy4639 Enterprise D helping out would spark war?
But the raiding warbirds were from mavericks, so this was closer to a pirate raid than official Romulan military engagement. Not something to declare war over no matter the situation. It would almost be like England declaring war on Spain because Spanish galleons sunk Blackbeard's ship, lol
USA did not declare war on Mexico when Pancho Villa tried raiding US border towns in order to provoke US military involvement in Mexico's civil war. They could have, but it was no cause for that, though they did try to chase down and arrest Pancho Villa.
Now a pair of Starfleet ships defeating Romulan raiders in defense of Klingons would still go over well with the Klingon Empire, just not quite like dying in a hopeless battle as the Enterprise C originally did. And like you said, Federation + Klingon Empire is too much for the Romulan Empire, so a future similar to what TNG takes place in normally is the most likely turn of events.
Something you sound like you might be assuming is that the Romulan fleet is going to be entirely composed of those warbirds in the vid, those are clearly heavy cruisers of sorts (judging by their size next to the Enterprise) and will never be the majority of a fleet. Like Starfleet, most of the Romulan and Klingon navies are smaller, lighter ships simply because heavy cruisers and battleships/dreadnoughts are the most expensive, nevermind that too many big ships would limit projection of military power (and thus affect politics, too) and limit military presence in space, which then also limits the ability to retain conquered territories. I, too, doubt that the big warbirds will fare well against multiple Ambassador class ships in a proper fleet battle of a military campaign, and smaller warbirds and other light cruisers and frigates will get picked off by Mirandas and whatever other small Federation ships.
Enterprise C was extremely unlucky to get ganged up on by multiple large warbirds and lose shields right at the start of the fight (or the fight would have been longer).
FYI, when you're outside of an atmosphere (like every clip in this vid) stars don't twinkle.
good job. I would have thought though that the opening of the rift would have been caused by an exploding romulan ship over the magnetic pole mainly because a romulan core uses an artificial singularity as its power source and we have seen in other episodes such as "timescape" that it can have an affect on temporal space.
Yes indeed, I could have worked that in. It makes sense that all of those things in combination were the cause.
You know, thinking about the Romulan's using lots of artificial singularities for power makes me wonder if that had anything to do with the time rift that was caused when their sun went nova and sent Nero back in time. It would fit nicely with this same incident.
startrek online explains what really happened.
Yes that seem much more likely. Given their use of singularities as power source, basically a little black hole, there is no powering down the black=hole. Were the ship destroyed it would be freed and become wild feral B.H, GOBBLING UP EVERYTHING IN IT'S GRAVITY WELL..
A distant star went Nova and threatened the entire Galaxy... I mean really WTF? Jar jar verse indeed! How is a Nova supposed to threaten another star system in anything short of a few hundred years if they are VERY close? Not to mention that at those distances the threatening Nova shock wave would have dissipated to such a degree a modern shuttle could handle it never mind a planet! It is just such tripe!
Absolutely deserves a full length film.
Dear Romulan ambushers,
If you're clever enough to sneak up on a renowned Federation starship and disable it without destroying it, you should be clever enough to make sure it's not rigged to blow up with you. You have scanners to analyze what's going on aboard the enemy ship and transporters to send engineers to defuse explosive situations.
If you need me to explain all of this to you, I hope the Tal Shiar executes all your commanding officers for incompetence, preferably before you can cause more preventable destruction.
Sincerely,
Starfleet Admiral FissyQuil
To be fair, they likely did scan it and detected the explosives and likely realized the fact that any enemy ship captain worth their dilithium would have rigged the ship to explode the moment anyone beamed aboard or tried to enter externally. Even if they got past that, there would most likely be some kind of anti-tamper mechanism that would blow them up the moment they tried to defuse it or go near it.
The Enterprise-C was going to explode and take as many Romulans with her as possible and nothing was going to stop her. The Romulan captains likely knew that but had to try with Tal Shiar agents aboard. The idea being they MAY die trying to capture Federation secrets and technology, they most certainly WOULD die if they didn't try. Either face Federation booby traps or Tal Shiar disruptors
Maybe Romulan sensor tech was better or worse than its Federation counterparts, we can assume there was an arms race but we don't know who was ahead.
But 1701-C did have some future-tech upgrades ... plus an officer armed with knowledge, training, and "hindsight" decades ahead of her adversaries ... it seems quite plausible for them to fool Romulan sensors. For comparison, think of modern military stealth systems or computer encryption systems vs their counterparts from the 1990s.
They probably though it was another Corbomite bluff.
Nicely done. Believable and true to NextGen Lore. Very much appreciated. I enjoy stories that "fill gaps". Thank you. :D
Let’s all be honest. Captain Kirk would have found a way to win. Turn death into a fighting chance to live
Let the Romulans aboard The Enterprise C with the self destruct system on, killing the entire Romulan boarding party.
But its the sacrifice of the Enterprise C that pivots the Klingons towards the Federation. Perhaps winning wouldn't have been enough, maybe their deaths were needed for that shift in Klingon opinion to happen, for them to view it as honorable.
I think their sacrifice was necessary, what Kirk would have done is find some way for the containment breach to take out all of the warbirds at once. Perhaps he would plan to escape with his crew at the last second, but failed, leading to the sacrifice of his ship and his crew depicted, and showing both the tactical skills and the bravery of Starfleet, leading to the solidifying of the alliance.
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Let's not forget: Kirk cheated in the Kobyashi Maru test
The Romulan fleet was actually sent secretly by the Praetor himself to attack a few Klingon worlds aiming at increasing his glory with a quick war and a quick victory over a far weaker enemy, but rogue commanders foiled his gamble, costing him just about 5 warbirds out of 7 as it turns out; at least according to the novels.
The Ambassador class has always been my favorite Federation starship, and then the Constitution Refit.
Same about the Ambassador class.....however i would say that my next favorite would be the Nebula class.
Thomas Bryant It's Starfleet Clean
A nice design
Ambassador - C, Constitution refit-A, Sovereign -E, Original Constitution 1701, Excelsior -B, NX-01, Galaxy class -D
My favorite is the Galaxy Class.
Great stuff here! A sad story with a positive outcome for the Federation. One of my fav eps, despite my disdain for time travel stories.
Good effects, but the descriptions giving every step of the battle need to be removed. When the Enterprise explodes in a Romulan warbird is cotton explosion, for instance, you don't need a title card that says "the Enterprise was destroyed it took a Romulan warbird with it in its antimatter explosion."
We _just_ saw that and it slows down the action, better to just show than to over explain.
GReat video, however Enterprise C CPT said that there was a volley of photon torpedoes before they found themselves in the future.
Excellent job on one of the best TNG episodes.
Nice to see The Lost Era of star trek finally get the love and screen time it deserves!! 🖖🖖🖖
Wonderful video!
But then JJ made a new timeline, so Picards attempts to keep the prime timeline intact was for naught. Thanks a lot JJ.
The wonder of diverging timelines and alternate realities is that they must all exist simultaneously.
The horror is that bad writers and awful directors and idiot producers are able to worm their way into infesting every possible universe.
fuck jj timeline the prime tng timeline shoukd have have been and stayed as it was
Wow this was really well done. The C is probably my favourite of the Ambassadors aside from the classic D. Always wished we could have had a series about C and her crew.
CVN-65 retired, soon we will have CVN-80 Enterprise. History wont forget the name Enterprise. Ever.
A beautiful addition to the "things you didn't get to see" category. Great stuff! As far as I'm concerned, this is canon.
I enjoyed that very much, thank you.
Thank you for making this, very enlightening!
Great animation, though why it took so long to fire photon torpedoes (and even then, only one volley from the forward launchers, never mind the rear launcher) is puzzling.
Quessir Yes indeed, a big, big, big mystery...
VideoSpaceFX Not so big mystery, and you know it. Shame on you messing with Quessir. The Enterprise C crew maintained the space-time continuum by losing like they were supposed to. But losing with honor.
Quessir Federation Starships only carry a limited number of torpedoes. Photon torpedoes are capable of variable levels of yield according to need and are capable of stripping a vessel of its shields with a single hit at maximum direct yield. The problem there is that, at close range such as this, maximum yield would damage or destroy the firing vessel if it's shields were down. Starfleet policy is to use phasers to strip targets shields before using torpedoes when inside a range of 40km. This extends the use of torpedoes and prevents damage to the firing vessel.
Also, the Romulans probably targeted the aft torpedo launcher, not hard to find if the Enterprise had its shields down, to prevent them firing.
Michael Saumure Interesting bit of information, thanks for that. I'm aware that phasers are used to strip shields before the torpedoes can get in there and do real physical damage, but as to the danger to the firing vessel, they needn't have used maximum or even near maximum yield - one torpedo can do massive damage, as we've seen countless times during the shows and films.
One thing I did note is that the Romulans appear to be firing disruptors only in the animation. Captain Garrett reported that the last thing she remembered was a "fierce volley of photon torpedoes", so the Romulans were apparently able to fire them at such distances, at yields safe to themselves, as the Enterprise surely was capable of (ignoring the rear launcher, which we'll assume is damaged). I only see disruptor fire in the animation.
One last thing is that torpedoes do great damage to shields themselves. They obviously don't have the precision of phasers, being explosive devices, but explosions in space generally are not a good thing and a single torpedo might have gone a long way.
+Quessir one thing that is consistent throughout Trek from original series through Voyager ,is the inconsistency of Trek Tech and engineering, even as far as the scale of ships varying.
Ambassador Class Enterprise has always been the best looking federation ship imho.
This was pretty good, Yesterday's Enterprise is among my favorite TNG episodes. The Ambassador class is actually my favorite design, second is the Miranda class. I always wanted at least a movie featuring the Enterprise-C. Instead, all I get is crap put out by Abrams and CBS. Boycott Star Trek Discovery, don't get STD!
This was definitely a missed opportunity, someone should have miniseries of enterprises b&c. Rachel Garrett would be fantastic to watch as a captain in command of Enterprise C. And Captain John Harris as Captain of Enterprise B.
The Enterprise C has always been a very special ship to me, mostly because it was the first piece of Star Trek I had ever seen. It's painful to see her go down but at least it was not in vain
Duuuuuuuuude!!! The shimmer across the planet to show the cloaked Romulan ship passing over was *siiiiiiiiick!!!*
Brilliant touch!!
Good Job Bro!!! Nicely Done!!!
and somehow this didn't lead to another earth-romulan war
Man, after seeing this I like and became a subscriber of your channel. This was one of, if not THE best Star Trek movies ever.
Ivan Ramey You gotta be goddamn kidding - this was SHIT.
Fuck you, I'm an Ent-C fan this was good.
Doesn't that describe MOST of the Star Trek Movies out there? Asisde from First Contact and MAYBE Insurrection all Star Trek movies are shit. And when I posted that I was high as fuck and had just watched that episode too so visuals weren't really at issue.
Good point!
Yeah, also, I'm a proud ASSHOLE but I'm not sure if you can say that about all Ent-C fans, nor do I understand how simply liking this makes me an ASSHOLE. But hey, I am (everyone else in the world is an ASSHOLE too) so it's all good.
This was very cool. Thank you for doing this. It was amazing.
"Awesome video! I really like it!"
Very well done! I've always wondered how the Enterprise-C got caught in that temporal vortex. And I really like how you ended the story, very satisfying with the planned explosion of a captured Federation vessel.
Most impressive. Nothing was over the top. Everything was well thought out. I saw nothing that disrupted previously established facts and instead, filled in some gaps. I wonder how the Romulans missed the overload trick, but perhaps they disregarded anyone else being inclined to act as they would. Certainly their arrogance might have cause that oversight. I supposed if they rigged it to slowly build and then suddenly fail, it might have just looked like the result of battle damage. I'm very impressed by the thoughtfulness of this video.
I actually saw ONE simple gap in this. (After watching the episode 'Yesterday's Enterprise') the Klingons were as well involved in this battle. There is only the Enterprise C. (Man I sound nerdy.) and 0 Klingon ships involved in this battle. If this was a perfect rendition of the battle, then how exactly do the Klingons know that the Enterprise-C fought and died for there outpost? But other then that, very entertaining.
nightcrowred I had thought that as well, but then I wasn't sure. I thought maybe they had analyzed wreckage post-engagement. I would have thought there would be at least one Klingon ship somewhere, but I couldn't remember from the episode.
Probably the same way that the Klingons missed the engine overload of the original NCC-1701 until they were standing on the bridge looking at the countdown clock.
AdmiralKarelia At first blush, I see how it appeared that way. However, you have to consider when we hear the Klingons talking to each other in English, they're actually talking to each other in tlhIngan. They just do it in English to make it easier on the actors, the audience and the sub-title budget. Conversely, there's no reason to believe the Klingon boarding party understood the English countdown. You could argue they should have figured out the general idea from the cadence, but they were feeling pretty cocky at the time.
Jalfmar3 and also they were probally at least in some way glory hogs the warriors that boarded anyway or were young warriors with the only veteran there being the captain hence his response
Great video
Sod the nitpicking
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Someone needs to learn the difference between 'remastering' footage, and a fan-created edit of same.
What do you mean?
VideoSpaceFX I think he means that as this footage was never shown in the Star Trek canon(to my knowledge), it shouldn't be called a remastered edition.
0megasight From video text above:
Original upload (5 Sept 2010)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdU-M4...
Re-composed, post-processed and upscaled into 720p HD with a few minor edits (but no newly rendered scenes) this is the remastered edition of the original video with 288,000 views as of this upload. Remastering comparison at 14:35. To make this look really good the best thing would have been to re-render everything, but I just wasn't up for that so I have made it look the best it can with other tweaks.
Indeed, I read that just moments after making the comment
@@KLamki1 Funny, I happen to agree with the comment from 0megasight. Just because VSFX has technically been correct thanks to the small print, but the title is a blatant and initially misleading attention grab. Not subscribed or gone other footage of theirs. The fan-fic or Memory Beta level should be clearer UP TOP.
This for me was one of the most pivotal moments in Starfleet history, the C was powerful starship but no match against several warbirds but fought valiantly. In a TNG you get the impression the Klingons Realised that they and the federation was a true Friend as opposed to the romulans, who frequently showed their distain of the Klingons. Froren her death captain Garret was a badass
I was moved by this depiction of the "Battle of Narendra III"
I was confused by mention of the Beta Quadrant but that would be nitpicking.
Folks unfamiliar with canon who are interested in Star Trek and it's vision of the future would learn about discrepancies either by research and/or learning from others who enjoy sharing with other Trekkers/Trekkies.
I especially like the distant view of the Enterprise and the Romulan War Bird at 4:52.
I suppose it was the sight of what we know to be massive ships in battle seen as tiny objects in the vastness of space. That was a nice touch.
What are acts of war compared to the incomprehensible vastness of creation?
Perhaps it's the willingness to honorable sacrifice oneself for the welfare of others that provides meaning.
Keep up what you're doing!
It may inspire the Negative Nellies of the galaxy to contribute something
inspiring as well. \\//,
Others have mentioned "some confusion" about referencing the Beta Quandrant, but I don't know why -- the Klingon Empire exists there, and I had always presumed that Nerendra III was proximal to there. (The Federation is primarily in the Alpha Quadrant, so maybe that's what some people are thinking...). Just saying...
If you look up maps of the galaxy from the Star Trek universe then Earth is on the Alpha-Beta border. So just to the one side your in Alpha quadrant and to the other Beta. As such then the Klingons are mostly in Beta and the Federation is in both. There are many potential enemies in Alpha that are never really talked about or dealt with in TOS or TNG while DS9 is kind of limited in what they can deal with but they do mention some of them during the Dominion War and of course Voyager is strictly Delta.
As a kid in El Paso... I grew up going to Skaggs Alpha-Beta, Furrs, and Safeway! They spoofed Kirk in Airplane 2, Lunar Base Alpha-Beta.. 😎😁😜😀🖖🖖
Wow. Very well done. It explained one of the best episodes of Star Trek and its aftermath.
While I greatly applaud the effort this took, I'm curious about something. Why do the Romulans use no beam technology and the Enterprise C uses no torpedoes for what amounts to about 7 minutes of combat? I could see if battle damage took out the launchers, but they never even tried before the rift.
Also, why do weapon impacts from phasers and disruptors cause a change in the ship's direction, as if those things have mass? As far as I recall, externally, there's never been this type of reaction to beam or pulse weapon impacts in canon (with the sole exception of the Defiant against the Borg in First Contact). The only exception has been torpedo impacts, and that's never been consistent.
Just curious as to the choices.
incredible video for unquestionably the best episode ever made of all star treks
LOL, loved how the entire ship got vaporised into nothingness and yet some how the plaque of the ship managed to escaped the destruction of the enterprise without even a single scratch on it. Wow Starfleet really know how to build those plaques :P
The Klingon homeworld is called Qo’nos. Other than that and the lack of photon torpedoes being launched, this is an absolutely splendid effort! (Maybe you could have had “C” destroy one of those bastards in actual combat, but I’m just nitpicking now. Well done!)