they hate women more than any other demographic does. cause every other demographic besides asexual wants on some level to get with women. and asexual people don't care about any of this.
trans man** bud, trans man. Woman to man is trans man, which is what makes it even funnier is that she was a woman at first and can't relate to another girl. But takes ownership or and gate keeps the womanhood she gave up
Not really? dumb people exist in all sects of life- From gay people who vote for anti lgbt politicians to black people who vote for racist politicians there are people who will vote against their own self interest because it hurts the minority group they're against the most, Just because you're a woman that doesn't mean you're not dumb for voting against women's rights
That's because weak women are allowing are allowing it to happen and even encouraging it lol. You wont find that happening in the men becuase we don't put up with that
Nah fr. I'm trans myself, but it really makes my eyes roll when the extremists make everything about being trans. Racism and being transgender should not be in the same conversation unless we're specifically here to speak about racism within the trans community. Same thing here. We're here to speak about feminism and it's absurd that the conversation quickly became about trans issues. That has a small amount to do with feminism.
@@AdamLove-mebased I feel like all the left extremest stuff around trans people drives ppl away from seeing and having basic empathy for ppl I’m an adult now so I see trans ppl as equal to any other human group but when I was a teen a lot of the toxic leftist traits made it easier to watch those anti sjw/trans channels it’s cause of regular ppl like u who go outside lol that I myself went outside big ups to u hope ur day is great
Honestly felt bad for Emma. Imagine being in a "safe environment" thats supposedly supposed to SUPPORT WOMEN she ended up being discriminated and shut down....
@@Dancky2 victim mentality? If women say they don’t agree with for example some of the trans movement their reputations get destroyed. It’s not a victim mentality it’s just sad.
@@jordinometry1589Oh please. Women always play the victim card. Nothing is ever their fault. "Never underestimate a woman's ability to rationalize bad behavior and avoid all accountability."
It's really not that crazy at all. Feminism has never been about equality. It's been about supremacy at any cost even if it's hypocrisy gets exposed along the way.
What's craziest is that they kicked her to the curb for being unsure. You're allowed to not be sure about your take on any topic. That's more than fair.
@@marvin2678nah man it’s just saying that she thinks she’s in the wrong when anybody yells at her for anything or is accusing her of anything, no matter how in the wrong the person doing the accusing is.
Maybe it’s just me being too presumptuous and assuming something that’s not true. But I don’t even think she genuinely has that mindset. But it just seems that way because in her efforts to not get shamed by the group, she’s metaphorically walking on eggshells and sounding submissive? But I could be wrong
Pretty privilege at work 🙄 honestly they just think she looks too conservative, because of the fact that a lot of conservative women are bottle blonde, feminine, home maker types. Honestly feminism can come from any and every demographic because there is no "specific look" to ppl who support equality in genders. They are men, women, and from the left, right and center. Freedom to choose includes freedom to choose to be stay at home mother, or a business owner, or career woman etc.
She is the only one who is not living in a echo chamber, and thinks for themselves. So honestly I don’t think she would be affected to hard after this.
It's crazy how Emma gave the mildest statement, which she had to qualify the hell out of with "oh I'm not sure, I could be wrong", and did so in a way that was still respectful...and they still immediately treated her as hostile.
It's like some weird movement that glorifies ugliness that no one really likes but we're on some emperor's new clothes shit so when they get presented with an actually attractive woman (yknow a woman. the thing the entire movement was supposed to be about) they just instinctively attack her in some bizarro mean girl style.
@@DeadpoolX9 Yeah, I definitely think there's some elements of feminism that exist to drag certain women down. It's probably because feminism is no longer largely about women's issues, but has been subsumed into the broader left-wing ideologue sludge. It's basically just about trans issues now, which are fine to talk about obviously, but they have their own place. I'm not sure why trans activists have such a powerful vice grip on a movement unrelated to them. It's crazy that an episode about feminism turned into a trans debate, and that the deciding factor that Emma wasn't a feminist is that she wasn't completely aligned on trans issues, even though feminism has nothing to do with trans rights.
It's amazing how quickly trans advocates flip from "just let people live their lives" to making demands of how you live yours. Right down to how you think.
And then they wonder why we're soo angry with them?? I've gotten to the point where I just say NO to all of it, they need to be put back in their place....
Step number one: stop being scared to tell people to stfu. Respect them, let them live, be nice, but have firm boundaries. What are they going to do, cry to (social) media and say "although they were nice to me they wouldn't let me tell them the way they needed to think about something"? F them.
Because trans people truly think the world revolves around them and everyone just agrees. One day, I hope we learn to tell these people to shut the fuck up.
I relate to Emma SO much. The amount of times people assume I’m not a feminist because I don’t look like a stereotypical “blue hair, emo feminist” etc… is absolutely fucking insane. I was watching this video and I knew exactly what they were going to do to Emma. She was one of 2 WOMEN THERE…why are the men out numbering the women while talking about women’s issue’s, that’s crazy because that’s actually how it is now.
Don't feel bad. People who choose to indulge in these peoples insanity and delusions are as guilty as the nutcases for perpetuating this nonsense. People need to go back to saying what is fact and true without fear of being labeled a "bigot, racist, anti whatever" by a bunch of mentally ill conformists and sheep who are following whatever they are told.
Emma did nothing wrong. Imagine being in a space with people who are supposed to support you and they make you feel uncomfortable to speak you mind and opinion. That's wild
Emma is representative of the general problem that nobody has the fortitude to simply say what they know us true. And all the (mostly conservative) people who would be your bulwark against this progressive nonsense have been marginalized from mainstream culture and media. We're checking out and letting y'all lie in the bed you made.
It kills me, they'll scream believe the science then call me TERF for bringing up biology. I was an athlete when I was younger. I was a sprinter and I was good. I held my HS womens 200m dash record from 2002 to 2021. I trained year round. Even then I could only just barely beat our slowest male sprinter. Men and women are quite literally, build different.
It's so funny how they scream science and then science is also against them. It's like that meme "You just have to say that you're fine but you're not really fine".
Definitely, and it shouldn’t be something people get so butthurt about. Typically, men have more muscle mass to be physically stronger. Typically women can withstand more pain to account for childbirth. Men’s brains typically have more testosterone leading to different drives and thought processes. Women typically have more estrogen which leads them to behave differently as well. TYPICALLY. Pointing out what is most common between 2 sexes has never meant that one is better than the other. We are different and it’s not a bad thing.
Yeah in sports is where the difference is actually enormous and I don't understand why people who have no clue about physicality, athleticism or sports at all feel like they're entitled to tell other people that their opinion is uneducated and or wrong. That shit just blows my mind, it's the same spectrum of global warming deniers walking up to magnitudes of scientists and telling them that they're wrong because said person actually had snow this winter. Like in fighting gyms, you will literally have professional female fighters unable to beat hobbyist (hobby as in they practice with discpline/routine but are not professionals) male fighters, due to the difference in raw strength. Serena Williams, probably one of the most powerful female athletes (relative to competition) there is, to paraphrase, returning serves from male players is akin to trying to catch a missile. Hobby powerlifting males will often outlift female professionals. The greatest difference there probably will ever be between male and female (barring the obvious such as genetalia or ability to be pregnant etc) is our physical capability. The difference is enormous. You can't argue for the idea that patriarchy exists, only to then deny the very foundation of why it exists in the first place.
Men literally has more muscles than women not more as in bigger more as in name for example if you have muscle a, b, c, d, e as a woman men has a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, k, l, m muscles. Its impossible for women to compete against men in majority of sports. men on average has 40% more upper body strength than women like the discrepency is massive.
In order to combat this I think we just socially ice out the wanna be women like how real women do to other women that they do like. That simple. Except I think it would possibly turn into trans women reverting back to their male rage and be violent in order to be heard.
In my country, feminism is all about getting rights to education, right to choose your own spouse, saying no to virginity tests and right to have a career... American feminism is so weird.
American feminism used to be about this. Problem is, when a movement like this reaches their original stated goal, they can't just pack everything up and say "well, we're achieved our goals, let's be like everyone else now". They're so invested in the cause, the oppression points, the victimhood, that they have to keep going, which necessitates inventing oppression (like manspreading, air conditioning, etc). Same thing with LGBT, etc.
I'm not a woman , but I understand , I wouldn't want people who bully their own groups representing for me . I'm not a feminist or anything but it's really sad to see these people make the other feminists who are actually doing something seem like nothing by shutting them up and making them uncomfortable and fight for the wrong thing instead because now they are bullied into w.e the more outspoken bullies want .
I’m very confused as to why they booted out the only woman who expressed any hesitation about conflating trans and feminist issues… surely that should be a dead giveaway that she’s an actual feminist. These people are too dumb for this to be a genuinely useful experiment.
Not really......... Not being a certain thing (eg a Feminist) doesn't mean you're 'anti' that thing; it just means you're not one yourself. It IS possible to respect different states of mind/outlooks without subscribing to it yourself. This is why we're in such a mess these days... There is very little 'live and let live' anymore...... Very little pursuit of simple harmony. People throw around the word 'tolerance', but it's not the same thing as there's a degree of reluctance wrapped up in that term.
That person was scared of getting cancelled or attacked. 😂 Plus that person wouldn’t label themselves as anti feminist if they weren’t strongly against it and didn’t care at all.
Another feminist: “she really takes charge of her own individuality by dressing well but also dressing for *herself*, in a world where being feminine is political in itself, she’s really girlbossing by presenting herself as hyperfeminine!”
Walking on egg shells is one of the signs of being in a abusive relationship. Which is telling when she is talking about transwomen, as a women, in a feminism space. These people man, they are just bullies.
Abusive. Hmmm. You cant demand other people to always care about your fragility. Rather she should have stood up for herself and her questions, regarding "men born" trans in woman sport. The responsibility is on her.
@@communist-hippie Mate, if you can't tell she is limited in her speech and pressured into thinking something else there is something wrong with you. Not everyone has the ability to speak up for themselves. And these transgender advocates are the first to cross other boundaries while virtueing free speech and liberty. They are the prime example of abusers.
I had this teacher in high school who was a self-proclaimed feminist, but she went around shaming girls for wearing short shorts, spaghetti straps, and makeup. She once made a girl cry for wanting to be a stay at home mom. That teacher was anything but a feminist!
It’s funny how whenever a feminist behaves like that they say she’s not a real feminist, when really that’s just what feminists become like the deeper they get into the ideology.
@@fatboitino2Not all schools have a dress code, and not all dress codes include spaghetti straps and shorts If the purpose of feminism is to empower women, then the teacher in question is a complete failure
Ironic cause that’s men’s experience for decades tryings to address men’s issues. Y’all have advocacy groups, institutionalized support systems, gov funding, corporate backing etc. Anytime men try to rally its always labeled as misogynistic and hate group.
Ironically, the mole not showing up managed to dismantle the feminist group just by them having the idea there is a non-feminist in their group. Shows how much self-sabotage can happen against people who really support the idea but not agree fully with everyone on everything.
It’s pretty darn rough and funny to watch the houses movements burn down because of their lack of having different perspective then someone else and the stupid safe space bull crap is not helping
@salguodrolyat2594 LOL. And labelling everything as communist when they has nothing to do with communism is an inescapable sign that you are an idiotic usa-ian with a single braincell
Emma is just a kind person, she's going to have trouble being disagreeable, it's not sexism it's her difficulty speaking up for herself.A lot of women don't need feminism they need assertiveness training.
@@xxxmelissatacionxxx I mean, when you look at and consider what men will do and how far some men will go to abuse either their position of power or physical attribute, it's not crazy to see why her voice has been broken down like that. Sure she does need to be more assertive, but she will never learn to do so in an environment that will keep punishing her for it. Unlike the group of people in this video, she needs supportive people who will allow her to speak her mind and engage in the conversations that she's clearly willing to talk about, just in the right company
@@MyNameBEGrey That has nothing to do with it. Not every aspect of a woman's personality is defined by her interactions with men, you evil mysoginist. Some people are naturally agreeable and struggle with being assertive. Most of these people are women, with some men there. Bad people will take advantage of them regardless of their gender.
@@MyNameBEGreyNnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh, we see what her speaking her mind amounts to, zilch. I do find it funny you would go talking about how men abuse power, look at the fat bych and tell me she ain't leveraging petty power against Emma. You're adorable, get a grip on actual reality and stop watching hentai.
I’ll preface this by saying that I don’t invalidate a trans person’s experience, however they can’t possibly relate to the experience of a woman who has been a woman her ENTIRE LIFE. It’s not the same thing and I’m honestly tired of people who lived their lives as men and now want to invade women’s spaces and conversations. The entitlement of these people are bind blowing.
@@nolabratteig988 I see it as two ways of thinking. I believe that people can choose to live their lives however they want and deserve acceptance, but we are all dealt a hand when we are born AND through our experiences and cannot ignore that. That's why I cannot act like I know what it's like to be another ethnicity, even if I strongly identify with their culture. There are certain physical/mental/cultural differences that make us different from one another, and that is okay. We should be accepting of differences, not pretend like they don't exist.
The glee in the "Emmett" person says it all (clearly not passing nor trying and still acts like a woman). They were reveling in the social kill they could make because Emma was scared and not articulate and couldn't get her arguments straight. Same with the eye roll in the pink dude. They are the types, low on the totem pole, so grab any kind of social clout... in this case, gender bending and they will use it to take down folks. Haha, shows everyone can be a mean girl and has it in them.
The only difference between a fully transitioned female and a female from birth. Is periods and birthing a baby. Which there is more to a woman than merely being a baby maker. Lastly, many women cannot birth children due to their uterus being under developed. Which requires them to have another woman's uterus to be transplanted into them for a birth. A transitioned woman did this same process in 2016 with a successful birth. So really there is very little differrence between the two genders. Like in all of gods creations everything is made in matching sets. Its only hormones the determine developement otherwise we would look identical in function. There is some real science for you.
“Imagine being in a group and being ostracized from that group for not catering to other groups!” Bro, this was beautiful at the end to see the shame and mental gymnastics going on to address a way they didn’t have to admit fault or accountability.
TERFs aren't wrong. Exactly like individual underprivileged groups aren't wrong for not taking on the challenges of other underprivileged groups. Nothing wrong with indigenous groups not taking up black social issues. They have their own full plate.
yeah they were stretching with those gymnastics. i mean he really said i don't wanna be here but i am and i didn't succeed in our objective, which proves that i should be here! wait..
@@5050TM yh cuz she's stupid. The movement bred this bs. Now we should feel bad for her? Like that makes sense. She simply shouldn't be one. There, problem solved
That’s what they do, it’s exactly like he said in the video. These people don’t want equality they want to be able to speak over everybody. Any outwardly ‘oppressed’ person has that as their goal
@@NachoAE360 - I bet you say that about all the different groups and ideologies that differ to yours........... Wait... Is that Irony creeping into view?
As someone who used to struggle with the same things as Emma, assertiveness, the inability to say no, and I was constantly ostracized and still am from all feminist circles because they think I'm not feminist enough or I don't care about women as much as they do. Over the years, I've learnt to rely on my critical thinking abilities, and lead with honesty of intentions. That helped get over the need for social acceptance. I'm sure Emma will get there soon, she seems so empathetic and humble. God Bless. 🙏
Women somehow think only onces that have a hard time in jobs and life in general but most women would not be able to deal with how it would be like to be a man. You get zero help from anyone and your never bailed out of bad decisions you have made. When you speak about your emotions in public your most of the time laughed at or made fun off. Also you can be a real dick to someone without there being a consequence for your actions.
@@Lightflames85 Try thinking about it this way. Both Russia and America are EXTREMELY dangerous countries. However, if you grow up in Russia or America you learn to navigate the country with ease. Sure there are aspects of the country that are more dangerous than others and you know to be hyper vigilant to your surrounding in those areas when you are there, like New York or Chicago. Different rules for different environments. BUT if you took an America and dropped them in Russia, they may not be able to navigate with ease. Customs and expectations are different. You can get a way with one thing in Russia that you could not in America and vice versa. The same applies to sex. If you are a woman you may struggle to adjust as a man and vice versa. But when you are brought up to be a man or woman your approach to the world and adversity is much like being conditioned to meet adversity in your own country. Hope this lens helps. It's just two sides to the same coin.
@@Lightflames85well there are many benefits for being a man. But this is the most important one. Given that we would be willing to sell anything and everything to stay alive. Consider it amazing that a man is less likely to be unalived by a woman, meanwhile a woman is most likely to be unalived by a man. And these chances increase in a relationship 5% for men likelihood to be unalived by female partners or exes against 91% of women likelihood to be unalived by male partners or exes Secondly, a man is most likely to live longer and healthier, make more money than a single man thanks to being in a relationship with a woman while a woman is most likely to have her lifespan reduced by 20%, to be unhealthy and make less money than a single woman for being in a relationship with a man, especially marriage or cohabitation. Not to mention that a man will do less chores than a woman in his lifetime and have more free time than a woman in his lifetime. Married men have 5hrs more of leisure over married women. A man will sleep more hours than a woman in his lifetime. A woman will spend more time working than a man in her lifetime because women's house chores and services to men and children are 24/7 and even at the grandma stage they don't retire, if the men and the children are still around. And many times grand children are left in their care too. And most women also have a 9-5 or a business. They work in and outside the house. Something men rarely do. So apart from all the other benefits of being a man , I think a comfortable life and money is what people care about the most, and as a man you're winning in comparison to a woman. Focusing on all your advantages as a man will prevent you from feeling sorry for yourself and perhaps have gratitude, for your position although not perfect but also empathy for the other gender. Finally, this system is created and run by men. And as far as I have observed given these benefits and some, that men are receiving they haven't done anything to change it. However every now and then men will complain about the situation men have created to women, to make them feel guilty about it or convey to women that men have it harder? Which is strange I don't know if men think in a system created by men, men who are known as the face of instability, the originators of oppression on the planet will not prioritise themselves, but women. And I wonder if these complaints are intended to make women rescue men from the system men have themselves created and uphold. Which is obviously the most unmanly or cowardly thing for men to do, but also understandable given the position of a woman as the cleaner, and the backbone in a man's life. Again even this attitude alone shows that while women fight for themselves against men, men are also counting on women to fight for them against men. So men's life may not be perfect but these comparisons alone show women have it way harder than men, and if the roles were reversed, men would have dismantled the system a long time ago. Feminism would not have been their push. Ultra feminism, it would have been Men being comfortable with more pay wouldn't have pushed for equal pay like feminism does, but for more pay like they have and extra change for the trouble. They wouldn't have pushed for equality in the home and reciprocity like feminism does but for supremacy in the home like they have it now, with more benefits for the trouble. But the current comfort and benefits sedate them, blurs their ambitions until they meet a stone in the road, then they dream of a revolution which dies out at the next life's caress.
@@dearbrave4183Nonsense. Men have it harder, but that's what they're built for. Men are the disposable sex, meant to throw ourselves at the world in the hopes of attracting a mate in the attempt. Men built the world, yes, but they didn't do it for men, the world is built for women to live in and men to work for. If there are any advantages to being a man, they're almost entirely biological, as a consequence of our role in relation to the species. Simply put, women and men are not equals in reality, we possess different natures. So to expect equity in outcomes along any statistic is absolutely bizarre. Men do the vast majority of work, women control the vast majority of the economy, they tend to be a net cost for the system in western nations; extracting more money as a group than they generate, by a wide margin. If we start comparing men and women as apples to apples, women are going to lose at every point, they're weaker, less stable, less loyal, higher maintenance both materially and socially, they're more gullible, weaker to general social pressure and less hardy and capable of necessary job types. Men have a much wider distribution of traits, meaning, for example; that almost all geniuses are men, as well as almost all total morons, and this applies for pretty much any trait. This means that as a society scales up in population numbers, the extremes of society will become more and more male-dominated. From 10 million people, the 10 smartest, toughest and most competent are likely all men.
i feel you, im not really assertive or confrontational. while i do like discussing these topics, i still have a hard time putting my thoughts into words or trying to make sense of my beliefs especially when asked about by others around me.
This is becoming misogyny in a new skirt. Men taking over women's spaces. But ladies we have ourselves to blame. We were outside screaming "YASSSS QUEEN" "SLAAYYYYYYYY" and now they're looking to slayyy us out of existence, but they could never!
@@BlueNorth313 except the feminists were supporting it for men, they cheered on the destruction of male spaces and weird theories on masculinity. Terfs are just the feminists who can’t handle the chickens coming home to roost.
And men have been against this since day one, because we are all such misogynists, am i right? 😂 Naah, dont listen to us about what are bodies can do, we only say it because we hate women... Cant make this shit up 😐
No Emma...you do not have to educate yourself! except if is to accept you are a woman and you have to assume your position, your voice, without being afraid to be canceled...
@@Ndasuunyeeducating yourself means I can't say shit unless I feel educated on the matter. Not going to happen. You educate me if I say something wrong.
Im be honest, no one on the panel is a feminist, the fact that they deny women the right to be women and want to include men. Thank you for covering this, hopefully one day Emma learns to us her voice against bullies like this.
As it turns out: Most feminists are incredibly stupid and just go with the flow One day they're gonna say you have to suck dick to be a feminist, and they're gonna do it
@@sumsayslug- You mean you both would have ended up talking nonsense? "Woke" - Time to grow up and stop using such reductive language if you want to be taken seriously.
It's insane that those people cannot tolerate a pretty feminine woman expressing her concerns about problems that affect the female experience, Emma is an excellent feminist she's concerned about the women's problems about women spaces, about males taking over those spaces and the fact that two biological males are telling her how to think, how to express it's insane. The feminist movement and the LGB movement were pretty justified and logical at first but once the tr*nsgender and q*eers were added to the lingo the two movements absolutely lost all meaning.
People pretend women aren’t awful to each other because we always blame men for women’s problems. Women can be TERRIBLE human beings to one another and get away with it because no one holds women accountable in general.
Interesting how the discourse went from: “being a feminist or not being a feminist” to “being a pro trans feminist or being an anti trans feminist.” It’s like the whole discourse dropped anti feminism And now feminism is the accepted norm. Crazy how that works
You genuinely don't even need to argue against these people. Just let them talk and anyone who isn't stuck in a cliquey middle school girl mindset will see none of their views or opinions are in good faith. You know these people must be miserable to be around. Every single thing you say they will want to correct and control or you're ostracized
They're little authoritarian hypocrites addicted to feeling like they're in charge of and have control over others. It's normal to see in people who've made careers out of leadership positions, but to see so many random people walking around every day feeling like that is terrifying. Even more so to know how many people easily get addicted to that feeling and will do just about anything to keep getting the fix after a while.
That's what I've thought about the 'woke' movement for some time now. How it started with good intentions, but was quickly taken over by high school mean girls (psychologically that is, many are adults). It's now all about social dominance and control, passive-aggressive bullying, etc, all from behind a false cloak of virtue.
Yeah, it's the cliquey middle school girl mindset or the corrupt nobles of the King's court mindset. Snakes everywhere, ready to sink a blade in your back, poison in your drink or poison in another person's ear about you.
@@paulw5039 Yeah I've pointed this out and wow will they get upset if you do. You unmask them and they'll lose it. It's hilarious to watch them have a melt down when they get called on their manipulative crap
Thanks for saying "some", often I see people not using that word, and thinking everyone trans must be a narcissistic type like like that... Definitely met ones like that, but also met ones that acted like everyone else. If it's online it's usually not hard guessing which someone is, there's patterns in profiles I noticed over time :v
This just goes to show that no matter what race, gender, group, or creed, you're a part of people within that same group will tell you how to think and act. In conclusion, allow these conversations to motivate you to do your own research on a topic to form your own opinion because life is just perspective and everyone has their own. Anyways, funny ending to the video. Thank you for the content.
These kinda people in the LGBT+ community legit make me feel so embarrassed for being gay and just in general being in this community. Like, why do we constantly have to force ourselves into spaces, why are we all always trying to cancel people simply from something we don’t agree with and gatekeeping women and their struggles when it has NOTHING to do with us. We’re making so many steps backward, after we made so many steps forward. I just need smarter people from my community to come out and speak for once ☠️☠️
Well, feminism and it's ideology is open for anyone to discuss and be part of. This movement is continually changing like our society. So don't feel too bad, they don't accurately represent the whole community, just themselves.
Well Snow you are a beautiful soul and you should never be embarrassed for what other people do. I think most of us out here can still see people for who they really are, and it's pretty evident that you're a wonderful individual. I wish that everyone could just be recognized for who they are, not for which group they belong to, or sexual/gender anything they identify as, I don't understand why any of that matters, or is considered the basis of a person? Just be a good person and everything else is private business. But I'm old so maybe I'm just not seeing it??
@@nizarbellamqaddam2644 I’m the rare breed of gay who legitimately thinks we should have just stopped at LGBT+, to continuously add on more and more is ridiculous and makes us look even more like clowns.
I'm glad you guys brought this topic up. It's crazy to me that as a woman I feel completely left out of the feminist conversation. It's been completely taken over it's now a debate between the red pill manosphere the LGBTQ, trans women and basically everyone but biological women seem to have a voice in this lately.
@@Ndasuunye you know there are non-binary and transmen. your polemic sucks. there's literally a transman in this vid playing along, so what IvanaSantini writes is also a bit disingenous. although as someone who is technically LGBT I agree somewhat and I don't want to be associated with LGBT anymore. sadly.
@@Ndasuunye I'm assuming you were talking to someone else? It seems as though two comments have been deleted I guess your rebuttal destroyed whatever point they were attempting to make lool
Honestly if you live in the US where most of this nonsense is happening, women over there being shut down this way is deserved. Got too complacent and lacking self awareness to a point where they became fighting mules for everyone they see as marginalized and now they are being erased because smart people put their interest first. Women wants to be the savior of everyone but them and accepted the rainbow as king in their own spaces. That's what you get I guess....
"Anti feminists dress for comfort rather than style." He really said that in this lineup. But what you guys both said about feminism and how transwomen act in feminist spaces is so true it should be used in all the arguments. That twist though? wow man, really exposes how quickly they turn on you for saying the 'incorrect' opinion.
Completely agreed with Preach on "most feminists are not 'feminists'" Emma looks and acts the most "feminine" in this video and they critique her because she looks so feminine if modern 'feminism' is designed to ignore the voice of feminine/weak women, then it's anti-feminist
I remember having a discussion with a liberal and they kept interrupting me and not letting me have a say in the conversation, so I stopped, said respectfully I can't even talk in this conversation, so I will simply agree to disagree and no longer try to speak when I am just going to be stomped down before I even talk... and I kept shutting down further chatting until the person realized what they were actually doing. Not listening. Not actually having a conversation. It becomes a "ready to take my turn to shut yours down" style of talk. That's not a conversation.
Came into a group where they determine who is not a feminist and the women who said she felt she never could speak up around men had two biological men explain how they should think
The thing is, the majority of people who who obsess over women’s sports don’t actually give a fuck about it. I’m talking people who have either never thought about women’s sports or used to mock it until they realised they could use it to shit on trans women and pretend they have a rational reason for it. If you deny this then you’re not being honest. Just look at the US for instance. In Arkansas, they passed a slew of anti trans women laws and when the governor was asked how many trans athlete she thinks there are in her state, she couldn’t give an answer. Turns out, there’s literally just *2* . *2* trans athletes and spent so much energy, time, political capital on this as if this was a serious issue in her state. Meanwhile, like most Republican states, Arkansas has a high infant mortality rate and that’s even something that’s under Republicans radar. I don’t necessarily disagree about separating trans athletes and cis athletes (even though, if you actually want total fairness in sports then you’d also have to exclude cis women who naturally have higher testosterone levels and higher muscle mass than the average cis woman. Someone like Serena Williams does have that natural advantage, more so than even some trans women who have fully transitioned so if your concern is genuinely fairness then you’d also want athletes like Serena to be banned from competing against other cis women) Bur when this insignificant issue becomes a major part of one’s political identity, then you know they’re not honest about their true motivations.
As a feminist, I relate a lot to Emma. It scares me that we can't even feel safe to address our concerns. I know a lot of my friends who are feminists like me and don't feel safe anymore in what is supposed to be a female space. I mean that's kind of the point of what is happening right now. We are told we can't have female-only spaces anymore. We have no rights to fairness, safety and privacy... It warms my heart to see you guys agreeing with us as well. We are all confused about how to fight it though because when you have a prime minister who would be the first to call us transphobic, then how do you fight for your right?
There is no "safe." When you speak up and you speak out, be prepared for someone to try to shut you down. That's how free speech works. Plant your feet and don't back down if it's important to you. Waiting for someone to give you safety is going to be a long, long wait. If they walk away mad or you end up being the outcast then live with it.
I fully support women having women only spaces. Honestly, for how many groups the LGBT have under their umbrella, it would make total sense for each of them to have their own spaces with their own people that they can identify the most with. I'm still trying to make sense of why anyone wants to forcefully identify with someone else's struggle that they know nothing about. And if anyone is against you or your female friends grouping up together exclusively just to have one place of comfort in this world, then they can go kick rocks and fuck them very much.
Reminds me of when countless male spaces were deemed "sexist" and unfair by feminists and bulldozed, despite the evidence of its detrimental effect on men and boys. Not particularly fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it? I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to feel even the smallest bit of empathy or compassion for this complaint. I think it's a valid point, but feminists did the same thing---and worse---to men and celebrated it as a victory over their patriarchy boogeyman. The trans debate tearing you all apart is a fitting dose of payback.
😂 A good way to win the war is to not start it. You ladies weren't oppressed in 2007 so the fact we're here at all is a travesty. The Westboro crazies predicted everything that would happen this decade. I know a good way to fight it, how about when men give you good advice you actually take it?
I don’t know if Jubilee ever realized this but when they do these Odd Man Out videos, they are actually exposing just how deplorable some of the people they bring on are. Like Sweeney saying the guy wearing running shoes for comfort is a conservative thing, I thought “what kinda kangaroo logic is that?!” A lot of the people in these videos will try to get people to think they’re deep thinkers but the more you watch, the more surface level their thinking is.
My grand dad was an old fashioned male chauvanist. He thought women were over emotional , cried for no reason, and didn't say what they meant. And now we have dylan mulvaney, who thinks he is a woman because he cries all the time and says he's fine when he's not. Progress is a wonderful thing.
As a Feminist, I agree with Preach. I'm a Feminist but don't claim it out loud because the Feminist I grew up with are not the same Feminists now. I dont know who tf these people are. Or what they stand for.
why would even need to be in a community that will force you not to be yourself and spend your life walking on egg shells around them while they place rules to basically control you and won't even allow you to leave as a respected person? i am not a feminists nor will ever be even if the damn world forces me to be. i'm red pilled or mgtow LIKE, but never in any actual groups. i don't need to be one, but i often agree and disagree with them like anyone and respect their voices as they respect mine. rather be who you are and by your own choices and decisions. than a mindless disposable and used drone.
Perhaps it’s because the movement has been infiltrated and taken over? The “new” feminists have alienated everyone that’s not them. I don’t want to have anything to do with them, even if I agree with certain topics. Those people who are the gate keepers are insufferable.
We've gone into full goofy mode with feminism where so-called "women's rights activists" are supporting men unfairly competing against women and hurting their athletic careers.
the basics today are : 2nd wave feminists (old school thoughts from materialism and class analysis, anti porn, anti surrogacy, gender critical "terfs", pro choice) VS 3rd wave feminists (new wave postmodernists, "sex work is work", "trans women are women", still pro choice) Emma is a little gender critical (a smidge!) and all the others turned against her for that because they are all firmly 3rd wave gender woo loonies.
As a trans woman, you are 'a guest at best'. I'm going to use that, Aba. And I'm so glad you finally recognized the stunning bravery of that Destiny woman. Edit: I never got so many likes, MOM I'M FAMOUS. Mom...?
As a Caribbean American I agree and we both go about our lives differently but we’re still human making mistakes which is what we do a lot because of our faults
I think "invasive species" is a more accurate term than "guest". Considering how women are expected to conform to the wants and demands of transwomen (biological men).
@@buttersstotch4922 lol and you get called a bigot for that. Biological men dressing up as women are allowed to boss feminists and women around in general but they look at you weird if you were a normal man saying the same shi. It's a circus Olympics at this point, who is the greatest clown?
With only 2 women in the group, they ganged up on and kicked out one of them. None of them are feminists. They all failed to support women. Isabel didn't support Emma, and Emma was afraid to speak up against trans in sports. The all failed.
These types of people are just so miserable. Fake friendliness, vapid personalities because of the clamping force of potential to offend, the condescending and smug attitude that somehow comes along with it. I just dislike almost everything about them. Edit - EMMA. PLEASE, PLEASE do NOT go against your gut instinct and let these narcissistic CRYBULLIES turn you to delusion or, just, who you are not as a person. Don't let them play that game on you.
I had a coworker confide in me that she sometimes calls her trans friend by their dead name on accident. I told her to give herself grace and that she wasn’t a bad person if she had the right intentions and tried her best. Another coworker who happens to be trans overheard and called me out (shouting) in front of a group of about 5 or 6 people for being a transphobe. They lectured me about how trans people can choose their gender and I should respect their pronouns that may change even if they change pronouns daily. Nobody stood up for me, not even the coworker who confided in me about their trans friend’s dead name. As a Black woman, I felt so embarrassed and realized that I no longer had to only worry about men or nonblack people silencing or threatening me in the workplace. It felt like that trans person wanted to compete with me to be ‘more oppressed.’
Just shows the true color of a lot of transgender people and how authoritarian they are. Many regimes in the past and present have used intimidation tactics and pseudoscience to have their ideology reign supreme, just like transgenderism.
For someone screaming not to be labeled and to be treated equally to then judge someone based on “only conservatives wear comfortable shoes…” is just mind blowing. I’m 3 min into this video and have already rolled my eyes so much Imma need physical therapy after.
Great Video! Loved the bring back of "Layers" joke and intersectionality description. Showing this to my female friends because this is exactly what is problematic with allowing females to be outspoken by Trans-Women and Gay Men in everyday society.
The patriachy is so strong that even when it gets some HRT, a surgery or two, and wears a skirt and makeup, it still tells women what TF they should do/think. Some OP type sh*t, that is. Undefeated. Lmao.
And the sad part is, I guarantee that those "feminists" (or trans advocates) who were so quick to judge based on appearance and slight variations in beliefs learned NOTHING from this experience. Self awareness: zero.
I don’t feel bad for women at all because they collectively supported these movements and now it’s becoming oppressive to them and I find it hilarious 🤣
The same techniques of silencing, obfuscating, overtalking, playing the victim, accusations and labels are coming back and biting them in the butt. It's delicious.
@jcrunkthank you that’s what I’ve been thinking for along time and really oppression is happening in other countries and much more dangerous than we can’t even imagine.
Men are only enjoying this because they think women will just peace out feminism (women's rights) because of the toads in this video lol. Rad fems exist. Logical opinions Emma shared aren't mainstream feminism in America but they do have their spaces, AND those spaces actually talk about female centered issues rather than whatever is going on in liberal media for the year.
It's sad it's come to this point. It's like having guests you invited into your home who just start squatting, claim the home as theirs and kick you out.
" walking away from this, I really want to educate myself more on transgender women" *Gets marginalized by the people she wanted to learn about* I hope she learned her lesson 😂
This video was one of the best one's yet! Finally Jubilee is showing them how they treat people within their "group(s)", it's so refreshing to see it done the way it was! Also, thankyou to you two for adding actual depth and nuance to a subject that usually has one way tunnel vision, I feel like you've explained things many people think but aren't sure how to put into words.
Equal rights for women, which they absolutely have in the West + lady privileges of being treated like a lady. Modern feminism is: female superiority at the expense of men.
Your missing a key component in the definition that makes these kind of people go crazy with supremacy ideas: a feminist is a person who support women's right, ON THE BASIS OF EQUALITY. Not for giving more right to women, trans or anything else. That's a tiny but huge difference.
Man you can see Emma shut down and immediately start trying to do damage control. It was like they were yelling at and hitting her without actually doing it. I felt so bad for her.
The Trans debate will always be a tough one especially within liberal spaces and sports. I’m pretty liberal myself, but I’m also really engrossed in athletics and it’s VERY hard to deny advantages between genetically male and female participants.
Forcing people to compete in athletics against others that have an inherent physical advantage in strength, reaction time, endurance, and quickness just because said party FEELS like they are of the opposite gender is the antithesis of Liberalism. I hate that the far left hijacked the term liberal.
@equos5060 no no it isn't a joke... in reality feminism can't really get anywhere without ignorance or a degree of allowance by men. That's what David was trying to say...
@@IHNIFANIt makes perfect sense. For women to get rights, they had to recieve it from men. What can be given, can also be taken away. That's why feminists must keep men on side, and yet have failed miserably. So, sooner or later, women's rights will be taken away.
an independent conservative woman is also a feminist. i find it funny that these "corporate and commercialized" feminists are ironically NOT diverse and inclusive. it's like atheists stating that conservative atheists doesn't exists. they actually do.
America is a mess. They wonder why other countries laugh at us. These kind of videos never cease to show me how out of touch people are when they actually leave their echo chamber 🤡 Great video as usual aba and preach.
Well, the state of America is not as bad as it seems. These videos have just been in the focus of the mainstream so long it makes people feel like this mindset is taking over. If people would just go outside and talk to the average person, they would find that most of us are quite reasonable.
@martinpadilla5224 Of course. This comment is more so about that even when you go out and interact in your daily life, there's been an alarming uprise of people with these kinds of mindsets. And I find myself coming across more of these kinds of people in day to day life than I did before. And I stand on what I said about America.
I live in New Zealand, and although this movement has caught on a little, it hasn't really captured the attention of the teens. They, for the most part, don't care. My oldest son is going to start high school next year, and we did the open night. You know how they have tables that show different groups, sports, classes etc the school offers? They had an LGBTQ table with students that had information on lgbtq at that school. Without a word of a lie, not a single person went to that table. The entrie night. It was manned by 3 teenage girls. I kind of felt bad for them after the night ended because it was hours of sitting there without talking to anybody because nobody cared. And it's not like there was only a couple of people there, it was at least 200 to 300 students, and their family (all the future year 9 students)
Sorry to tell you, but it isn’t just America, but it being so big and been at the center of western society it gets the spotlight 24/7. A great of example is the lesbian feminist activist who is(or was) facing charges because she said on Facebook that trans women can’t be lesbians
This was a banger video. The twist, everything. Jubilee have done it well this time. Emma did very well and still got ganged up on. After she was outed, she took it up and said "My bad, I'll educate myself." although she did NOTHING wrong. Props to the non-feminist who didn't show up as well, it led to this masterpiece and proved that there are common infighting within these groups caused by some people trying to combine both groups and make it into a one big new group that has lost all its meaning. It is fine if you want to tackle both issues at the same time, but they aren't COMPLETELY the same things, some properties of one group can be hugely different than the other. You can tackle similar issues that are present in both groups, but acting like both of the groups are all completely the same just will not work, simply put. 4:30 and 12:12 Men-women equality is one thing, trans rights and issues is another. There can be similar properties and similar issues, but they are not one and the same. Let's see how fast my notification inbox gets filled up.
Jubilee stumbled into this outcome whilst the contestants inadvertently found themselves on a wild goose chase under false pretenses. They did them all dirty, tbf. Despite the fact she would have been a crap mole anyway; in all honesty Emma didn't do anything "very well"..... She certainly didn't express her point of view particularly well. She made a poor job of presenting what could have been a very simple argument. You win that argument by taking it outside the realms of gender/identity politics and into the humanistic realm; illustrating it in the terms of combat sports, where the biological imbalance between competitors can have a potentially fatal outcome. ....Once you accept that to be of primary importance (rather than allowing ego to prevail) then working backwards from that there are only 2 viable options; remain competing within under your birth sex or you accept that a 3rd competitive 'league' must be created for post transition females (lets face it the idea of post transition males competing with so-called "CIS" men isn't be a troublesome issue any time soon!). On a broader level..... With a genuine willingness, we'll gradually find our way to amicably iron out the complicated challenges that sex/gender comparability/integration issues propose within modern society; but the culture war bullshit that it's currently been spun into certainly isn't the answer. ....It's gonna take (more) time and patience from every corner.
The funniest part is that they KNEW that one person is supposed to LIE and they voted out the person who clearly knew what she was not supposed to say but still said it.
lol right? If i was looking for the mole i'd be looking at someone who is agreeing with everything and saying all the "right things" to not get kicked out, not the one going against the majority. But they literally looked at the two presumed "cis whites" and they kicked them out first
its just explaining both genders do it, no matter what sex you always get condescending assholes.... feel like we going in circles, im not mansplianing lmao
I've been mansplained more by my own mother than any male I've ever interacted with. That's why I've considered the term mansplain so damn stupid. Like the other commenter said both genders can be interrupting know it all a holes.
Woman (who's extremely agreeable but somewhat reasonable) gets told she's not a feminist by a gay guy and a women that doesn't want to be one. It's hilarious.
Love this. Its like you took the thoughts out of my brain. The way they gaslight women and shoehorn their issues into these discussions without fail makes me want to tear my hair out. Emma is the only non cringe person on the panel
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Gay men and transwomen somehow marginalising women in the feminist movement will forever baffle me
then the said feminist woman will blame you for the shit the gay dudes did to her, like clean your own house i didnt do anything
@@laisphinto6372 Interesting strawman.
Feminists that notice will usually call them out and get labelled as "terfs"
they hate women more than any other demographic does. cause every other demographic besides asexual wants on some level to get with women. and asexual people don't care about any of this.
dont forget the trans man 😅
😂😂
So a trans woman is mansplaining what being a woman is to a female feminist and then proceed to call her a mole. This is a layered irony wedding cake
trans man** bud, trans man. Woman to man is trans man, which is what makes it even funnier is that she was a woman at first and can't relate to another girl. But takes ownership or and gate keeps the womanhood she gave up
Not really? dumb people exist in all sects of life- From gay people who vote for anti lgbt politicians to black people who vote for racist politicians there are people who will vote against their own self interest because it hurts the minority group they're against the most, Just because you're a woman that doesn't mean you're not dumb for voting against women's rights
Exactly lol
Transplaining *
😂😂😂😂😂 thank you for explaining the confusion that was in my head
Ngl I'm impressed with how transwomen can infiltrate women's spaces and silence them. It's like the patriarchy with extra steps.
Trans women are males, men😂
@@khadijahbegum3546absolutely!
dudes in wigs are not women
Facts
That's because weak women are allowing are allowing it to happen and even encouraging it lol. You wont find that happening in the men becuase we don't put up with that
Kudos to Jubilee: they found a way to show the toxicity of extreme transactivists without getting the flack for it
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I hate shows like Jubilee, but now I see what they're actually doing lol.
@@Rexorazorthey actually kind of are putting a spotlight on how shallow a lot of these keyboard activists are.
Nah fr. I'm trans myself, but it really makes my eyes roll when the extremists make everything about being trans. Racism and being transgender should not be in the same conversation unless we're specifically here to speak about racism within the trans community. Same thing here. We're here to speak about feminism and it's absurd that the conversation quickly became about trans issues. That has a small amount to do with feminism.
@@AdamLove-mebased I feel like all the left extremest stuff around trans people drives ppl away from seeing and having basic empathy for ppl I’m an adult now so I see trans ppl as equal to any other human group but when I was a teen a lot of the toxic leftist traits made it easier to watch those anti sjw/trans channels it’s cause of regular ppl like u who go outside lol that I myself went outside big ups to u hope ur day is great
Honestly felt bad for Emma. Imagine being in a "safe environment" thats supposedly supposed to SUPPORT WOMEN she ended up being discriminated and shut down....
Perfectly encompasses the current state of the movement.
That’s literally what happens when women speak up against others opinion and ideas
@@jordinometry1589 yes along with their chronic victim mentality.
@@Dancky2 victim mentality? If women say they don’t agree with for example some of the trans movement their reputations get destroyed. It’s not a victim mentality it’s just sad.
@@jordinometry1589Oh please. Women always play the victim card. Nothing is ever their fault. "Never underestimate a woman's ability to rationalize bad behavior and avoid all accountability."
It's even crazier when you realize that they essentially kicked out Emma because they didn't agree with her version of feminism.
It's really not that crazy at all. Feminism has never been about equality. It's been about supremacy at any cost even if it's hypocrisy gets exposed along the way.
That’s why modern-day Feminists dont make any real change
Yea they think men destroying women in sports is feminism when I reality it's misogyny to the highest degree.
What's craziest is that they kicked her to the curb for being unsure. You're allowed to not be sure about your take on any topic. That's more than fair.
Well think about black people and black lives matter. It's not so much crazy as it is a sad sign of the times we live in.
Emma is the classic example of the abused thinking the abuser was the righteous one.
she wa abused ?
Stockholm syndrome
@@marvin2678nah man it’s just saying that she thinks she’s in the wrong when anybody yells at her for anything or is accusing her of anything, no matter how in the wrong the person doing the accusing is.
Maybe it’s just me being too presumptuous and assuming something that’s not true. But I don’t even think she genuinely has that mindset. But it just seems that way because in her efforts to not get shamed by the group, she’s metaphorically walking on eggshells and sounding submissive? But I could be wrong
Nah, too deep. She was just afraid of being singled out and judged. It happens to everyone to some extent.
Emma walked out of that experience thinking she needs to educate herself and she was the only logical person in the room…. That’s crazy
Pretty privilege at work 🙄 honestly they just think she looks too conservative, because of the fact that a lot of conservative women are bottle blonde, feminine, home maker types.
Honestly feminism can come from any and every demographic because there is no "specific look" to ppl who support equality in genders. They are men, women, and from the left, right and center.
Freedom to choose includes freedom to choose to be stay at home mother, or a business owner, or career woman etc.
She is the only one who is not living in a echo chamber, and thinks for themselves. So honestly I don’t think she would be affected to hard after this.
That's how the left get ya.
It's called gaslighting and they're INCREDIBLE at it.
For all their faults, it's the one thing they're experts in.
Because she has empathy and is self reflective meanwhile the rest think they know everything.
Fr. She's legitimately trying to view all sides and remain humble while the others are quick to criticize@@landmindssoul4636
It's crazy how Emma gave the mildest statement, which she had to qualify the hell out of with "oh I'm not sure, I could be wrong", and did so in a way that was still respectful...and they still immediately treated her as hostile.
It's like some weird movement that glorifies ugliness that no one really likes but we're on some emperor's new clothes shit so when they get presented with an actually attractive woman (yknow a woman. the thing the entire movement was supposed to be about) they just instinctively attack her in some bizarro mean girl style.
Because they are confused ego driven little boys
Ideological conformity. Emma isn't as far left as the rest of them. The others are basically ideologues/brain dead.
@@DeadpoolX9 Yeah, I definitely think there's some elements of feminism that exist to drag certain women down. It's probably because feminism is no longer largely about women's issues, but has been subsumed into the broader left-wing ideologue sludge. It's basically just about trans issues now, which are fine to talk about obviously, but they have their own place. I'm not sure why trans activists have such a powerful vice grip on a movement unrelated to them.
It's crazy that an episode about feminism turned into a trans debate, and that the deciding factor that Emma wasn't a feminist is that she wasn't completely aligned on trans issues, even though feminism has nothing to do with trans rights.
@@DeadpoolX9its simple, it's because in Marxist collectivist ideology standing out is detested. Everyone has to be "equal"
It's amazing how quickly trans advocates flip from "just let people live their lives" to making demands of how you live yours. Right down to how you think.
Let me guess- you wear “Running Shoes”. ( wtf)
And then they wonder why we're soo angry with them?? I've gotten to the point where I just say NO to all of it, they need to be put back in their place....
Who’s controlling how you live your life?
Step number one: stop being scared to tell people to stfu. Respect them, let them live, be nice, but have firm boundaries. What are they going to do, cry to (social) media and say "although they were nice to me they wouldn't let me tell them the way they needed to think about something"? F them.
@@MrColdwilliam Thats what JK did and they basically swarmed her calling her transphobic and bigot.
So why did a Feminist debate turn into a Trans debate?
Because modern-day feminists cant stay on topic and just whine. Thats why they dont get anything done
because women have given up their place in society for trans
GREAT QUESTION! There are so many problems in this world that can be remedied with a feminine approach to it and yet this is where we stand in 2023
Because trans people truly think the world revolves around them and everyone just agrees.
One day, I hope we learn to tell these people to shut the fuck up.
because testosterone beats estrogen even when testosterone wears a skirt.
I relate to Emma SO much. The amount of times people assume I’m not a feminist because I don’t look like a stereotypical “blue hair, emo feminist” etc… is absolutely fucking insane. I was watching this video and I knew exactly what they were going to do to Emma. She was one of 2 WOMEN THERE…why are the men out numbering the women while talking about women’s issue’s, that’s crazy because that’s actually how it is now.
"men" lol
It was 3 women
It was three women. The weird person on the left deludes herself into thinking she's a man.
The first one with glasses looks like a biological woman.
@@TedEhioghae She is one.
Imagine being a "woman" for like a year and shutting down women on feminism
And they never had a period.
Women are getting all of their spaces taken away by men who want to cosplay as another gender, and just letting it happen without a fight.
He's not a woman and never will be......
@@indianamarshal3457 Hence the quotation marks
The irony is that this is a real man's reaction actually.
Feel bad for Emma. She's trying so hard to do what the bullies want without fully abandoning her rational thoughts.
Don't feel bad. People who choose to indulge in these peoples insanity and delusions are as guilty as the nutcases for perpetuating this nonsense.
People need to go back to saying what is fact and true without fear of being labeled a "bigot, racist, anti whatever" by a bunch of mentally ill conformists and sheep who are following whatever they are told.
Yea.. they basically ganged up on her.. “gently”.
Bullies?
"There will be a time when people will not be able to speak because it will hurt the stupid"
@@carlitosskater89 its ok my friend this wont last long because its stupid and of course nature and stuff might not tolarated such a thing to go on.
@@daylightsavior6745 what
Emma did nothing wrong. Imagine being in a space with people who are supposed to support you and they make you feel uncomfortable to speak you mind and opinion. That's wild
Feminism HATES femininity
Whelp, when we told you ALL "no" you should have listened. This was inevitable and quite predictable.
Emma did everything wrong. She's a feminist who isn't brave enough to voice her real thoughts and lets men bully her. She's a clown.
Disturbed does a great job at it, u can actually be different politically and it doesn't matter. They're truly open minded
Emma is representative of the general problem that nobody has the fortitude to simply say what they know us true. And all the (mostly conservative) people who would be your bulwark against this progressive nonsense have been marginalized from mainstream culture and media. We're checking out and letting y'all lie in the bed you made.
It kills me, they'll scream believe the science then call me TERF for bringing up biology. I was an athlete when I was younger. I was a sprinter and I was good. I held my HS womens 200m dash record from 2002 to 2021. I trained year round. Even then I could only just barely beat our slowest male sprinter. Men and women are quite literally, build different.
It's so funny how they scream science and then science is also against them.
It's like that meme "You just have to say that you're fine but you're not really fine".
Definitely, and it shouldn’t be something people get so butthurt about. Typically, men have more muscle mass to be physically stronger. Typically women can withstand more pain to account for childbirth. Men’s brains typically have more testosterone leading to different drives and thought processes. Women typically have more estrogen which leads them to behave differently as well. TYPICALLY.
Pointing out what is most common between 2 sexes has never meant that one is better than the other. We are different and it’s not a bad thing.
Yeah in sports is where the difference is actually enormous and I don't understand why people who have no clue about physicality, athleticism or sports at all feel like they're entitled to tell other people that their opinion is uneducated and or wrong. That shit just blows my mind, it's the same spectrum of global warming deniers walking up to magnitudes of scientists and telling them that they're wrong because said person actually had snow this winter.
Like in fighting gyms, you will literally have professional female fighters unable to beat hobbyist (hobby as in they practice with discpline/routine but are not professionals) male fighters, due to the difference in raw strength. Serena Williams, probably one of the most powerful female athletes (relative to competition) there is, to paraphrase, returning serves from male players is akin to trying to catch a missile. Hobby powerlifting males will often outlift female professionals.
The greatest difference there probably will ever be between male and female (barring the obvious such as genetalia or ability to be pregnant etc) is our physical capability. The difference is enormous. You can't argue for the idea that patriarchy exists, only to then deny the very foundation of why it exists in the first place.
Men literally has more muscles than women not more as in bigger more as in name for example if you have muscle a, b, c, d, e as a woman men has a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, k, l, m muscles. Its impossible for women to compete against men in majority of sports.
men on average has 40% more upper body strength than women like the discrepency is massive.
In order to combat this I think we just socially ice out the wanna be women like how real women do to other women that they do like. That simple. Except I think it would possibly turn into trans women reverting back to their male rage and be violent in order to be heard.
In my country, feminism is all about getting rights to education, right to choose your own spouse, saying no to virginity tests and right to have a career... American feminism is so weird.
You from ?
American feminism used to be about this. Problem is, when a movement like this reaches their original stated goal, they can't just pack everything up and say "well, we're achieved our goals, let's be like everyone else now". They're so invested in the cause, the oppression points, the victimhood, that they have to keep going, which necessitates inventing oppression (like manspreading, air conditioning, etc). Same thing with LGBT, etc.
Wait, virginity tests?? We need those in the West ASAP!
Yeah, half of us think it's weird too.
Virginity tests?
What country are you from?!
As a woman, I don't want these people to fight for my rights...
I'm not a woman , but I understand , I wouldn't want people who bully their own groups representing for me . I'm not a feminist or anything but it's really sad to see these people make the other feminists who are actually doing something seem like nothing by shutting them up and making them uncomfortable and fight for the wrong thing instead because now they are bullied into w.e the more outspoken bullies want .
same. Because WTF did I just watch
sincerely,
a woman
Just the fact they think children can be Trans is ridiculous.
They are not people; they are clowns
I wouldn't trust these morons to make me a burger. They seem like absolute fools that can't even live in reality.
I’m very confused as to why they booted out the only woman who expressed any hesitation about conflating trans and feminist issues… surely that should be a dead giveaway that she’s an actual feminist. These people are too dumb for this to be a genuinely useful experiment.
Agreed
Because your average feminist (aka smarter then this bunch) has a real job, and real jobs would fire you for expressing sensible values
I couldn’t never have this conversation with some of these people besides Emma
5th wave feminism is a trans movement
they were just being emotional and kicking her out because they didn’t like how she felt on it.
The fact that the anti feminist did not even give a shit enough about feminism to even show up is hilarious 😂
Fucking absolute Chad move
Its fucking perfect.
Not really......... Not being a certain thing (eg a Feminist) doesn't mean you're 'anti' that thing; it just means you're not one yourself. It IS possible to respect different states of mind/outlooks without subscribing to it yourself.
This is why we're in such a mess these days... There is very little 'live and let live' anymore...... Very little pursuit of simple harmony. People throw around the word 'tolerance', but it's not the same thing as there's a degree of reluctance wrapped up in that term.
That person was scared of getting cancelled or attacked. 😂 Plus that person wouldn’t label themselves as anti feminist if they weren’t strongly against it and didn’t care at all.
They trust that feminism destroys itself at this point cause look at this debate.
"she looks feminin she looks great, sooo based on that: shes not a feminist"
Ok, that says it all
Another feminist: “she really takes charge of her own individuality by dressing well but also dressing for *herself*, in a world where being feminine is political in itself, she’s really girlbossing by presenting herself as hyperfeminine!”
@Schnirtit says how obtuse feminist are. The fact they speak for women to be whoever while putting a woman who choose to look nice is ironic
Walking on egg shells is one of the signs of being in a abusive relationship. Which is telling when she is talking about transwomen, as a women, in a feminism space. These people man, they are just bullies.
Abusive. Hmmm. You cant demand other people to always care about your fragility. Rather she should have stood up for herself and her questions, regarding "men born" trans in woman sport. The responsibility is on her.
They’re men. Women are the main ones indulging men like this. More women need to speak up.
@@communist-hippie Mate, if you can't tell she is limited in her speech and pressured into thinking something else there is something wrong with you. Not everyone has the ability to speak up for themselves. And these transgender advocates are the first to cross other boundaries while virtueing free speech and liberty. They are the prime example of abusers.
@@communist-hippieyour name invalidates anything you say
Duhhh. They want you to declare biological inaccuracy plus control your speech by threatening jail time for not supporting.
Aba is so right. These days, a lot of transwomen and gay men are always up in women's spaces telling women how to feel.
Would you say, it's pretty ironic?
Because they think they are smh
🤣
as they should
@@fuelty69 the world see this. And it shakes slowy in anger. Just wait how this will backfires on the gay dudes and trannies. We already seeing this
Hey. They kept defending the wolves. So. Misogyny is back and feminine now. 😅😅😅😅
I had this teacher in high school who was a self-proclaimed feminist, but she went around shaming girls for wearing short shorts, spaghetti straps, and makeup. She once made a girl cry for wanting to be a stay at home mom. That teacher was anything but a feminist!
I like her lol 😂😂 shame that young lazy bit#
Feminism has its own different factions and waves.
Plus, schools have a dress code.
It’s funny how whenever a feminist behaves like that they say she’s not a real feminist, when really that’s just what feminists become like the deeper they get into the ideology.
@@fatboitino2Factions? So one is the radical feminazis that treat women who don’t agree with them like shit and the other are the true feminists?
@@fatboitino2Not all schools have a dress code, and not all dress codes include spaghetti straps and shorts
If the purpose of feminism is to empower women, then the teacher in question is a complete failure
I just love when Aba explains the Layers of Oppression 😂
fr, its such a throwback
iykyk 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥 i cried laughing
😂😂
He should make a whole video just on that
I just love Aba…😩
What was supposed to be about feminism turned into a trans rights discussion 🤦♀️
What is a woman again?
Ah that's right....no one knows.
Ur gonna fight for women's rights when the concept of a woman seemingly "stopped existing"
It always does
@@Chelseaaa626Every. Single. Time.
@jcrunk the black trans, disabled demi sexual must win all the arguments
Ironic cause that’s men’s experience for decades tryings to address men’s issues. Y’all have advocacy groups, institutionalized support systems, gov funding, corporate backing etc. Anytime men try to rally its always labeled as misogynistic and hate group.
“Most feminists aren’t feminists”… you are correct sir 🙏🏼
This is insane. The only actual feminine woman there got spoken over, shut down and ostracized. I can't accept this shit.
feminism is not about feminity.
PURE INSANITY
@@johnmatthews4717 lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ivanamicimicihe’s not lying
@@A.l.a.c.feminism is anti femininity
Ironically, the mole not showing up managed to dismantle the feminist group just by them having the idea there is a non-feminist in their group. Shows how much self-sabotage can happen against people who really support the idea but not agree fully with everyone on everything.
It’s pretty darn rough and funny to watch the houses movements burn down because of their lack of having different perspective then someone else and the stupid safe space bull crap is not helping
Self sabotage is inescapable in all communist ideologies.🤣🤣
@salguodrolyat2594 LOL. And labelling everything as communist when they has nothing to do with communism is an inescapable sign that you are an idiotic usa-ian with a single braincell
@@salguodrolyat2594 Sooner or later communism evolves into fascism, the only difference is the fascists don't pretend to be your friends.
I really wanted the gay dude to be the mole and the entire flamboyant gay thing to be an act. That would've been hilarious
It's hilarious to me how the two most conventionally attractive and normally dressed people were immediately voted out of the group.
What do you expect from kinky person?
They're weirdo
Hilarious but not surprising.
Rather telling isn't it
The girl yeah, But they guy wasn’t conventionally attractive let’s be honest. He was just normal dressed.
The “cis white people” were voted out, is how I observed their voting method
The peak irony of the men shutting down Emma in a feminist space is next level 😂
Emmitt was a chick
Emma is just a kind person, she's going to have trouble being disagreeable, it's not sexism it's her difficulty speaking up for herself.A lot of women don't need feminism they need assertiveness training.
Yah this shows me that she has an issue with standing her ground generally. It's not the men. Wish her all the best tho
@@xxxmelissatacionxxx I mean, when you look at and consider what men will do and how far some men will go to abuse either their position of power or physical attribute, it's not crazy to see why her voice has been broken down like that. Sure she does need to be more assertive, but she will never learn to do so in an environment that will keep punishing her for it. Unlike the group of people in this video, she needs supportive people who will allow her to speak her mind and engage in the conversations that she's clearly willing to talk about, just in the right company
@@MyNameBEGrey That has nothing to do with it. Not every aspect of a woman's personality is defined by her interactions with men, you evil mysoginist. Some people are naturally agreeable and struggle with being assertive. Most of these people are women, with some men there. Bad people will take advantage of them regardless of their gender.
do not confuse weakness and foolishness with kindness.
@@MyNameBEGreyNnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh, we see what her speaking her mind amounts to, zilch.
I do find it funny you would go talking about how men abuse power, look at the fat bych and tell me she ain't leveraging petty power against Emma. You're adorable, get a grip on actual reality and stop watching hentai.
As a born disabled person your monologue about disabled people is so true Aba. Made me laugh out loud. Thanks for being yourselves you guys 😂❤
We're gonna eat you first. Because we care.
I laughed out loud too!!!! 😂
I’ll preface this by saying that I don’t invalidate a trans person’s experience, however they can’t possibly relate to the experience of a woman who has been a woman her ENTIRE LIFE. It’s not the same thing and I’m honestly tired of people who lived their lives as men and now want to invade women’s spaces and conversations. The entitlement of these people are bind blowing.
As a trans female I agree.
@@nolabratteig988 I see it as two ways of thinking. I believe that people can choose to live their lives however they want and deserve acceptance, but we are all dealt a hand when we are born AND through our experiences and cannot ignore that. That's why I cannot act like I know what it's like to be another ethnicity, even if I strongly identify with their culture.
There are certain physical/mental/cultural differences that make us different from one another, and that is okay. We should be accepting of differences, not pretend like they don't exist.
@@nolabratteig988 As in a trans man? Because AGP/Fail males are not female.
The glee in the "Emmett" person says it all (clearly not passing nor trying and still acts like a woman). They were reveling in the social kill they could make because Emma was scared and not articulate and couldn't get her arguments straight. Same with the eye roll in the pink dude. They are the types, low on the totem pole, so grab any kind of social clout... in this case, gender bending and they will use it to take down folks. Haha, shows everyone can be a mean girl and has it in them.
The only difference between a fully transitioned female and a female from birth. Is periods and birthing a baby. Which there is more to a woman than merely being a baby maker. Lastly, many women cannot birth children due to their uterus being under developed. Which requires them to have another woman's uterus to be transplanted into them for a birth. A transitioned woman did this same process in 2016 with a successful birth. So really there is very little differrence between the two genders. Like in all of gods creations everything is made in matching sets. Its only hormones the determine developement otherwise we would look identical in function. There is some real science for you.
Your take on the trans-feminine and their usurping of women's issues and the feminist movement is SPOT ON.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
“Imagine being in a group and being ostracized from that group for not catering to other groups!” Bro, this was beautiful at the end to see the shame and mental gymnastics going on to address a way they didn’t have to admit fault or accountability.
TERFs aren't wrong. Exactly like individual underprivileged groups aren't wrong for not taking on the challenges of other underprivileged groups.
Nothing wrong with indigenous groups not taking up black social issues. They have their own full plate.
yeah they were stretching with those gymnastics. i mean he really said i don't wanna be here but i am and i didn't succeed in our objective, which proves that i should be here! wait..
I wish Emma would've just said what was on her mind. She was actually being marginalized by people who claim to be marginalized themselves.
Then she would have outed herself as the non feminist
@@garenthal9638She is a feminist genius.
@@5050TM yh cuz she's stupid. The movement bred this bs. Now we should feel bad for her?
Like that makes sense.
She simply shouldn't be one. There, problem solved
That’s what they do, it’s exactly like he said in the video. These people don’t want equality they want to be able to speak over everybody. Any outwardly ‘oppressed’ person has that as their goal
@@NachoAE360 - I bet you say that about all the different groups and ideologies that differ to yours........... Wait... Is that Irony creeping into view?
As someone who used to struggle with the same things as Emma, assertiveness, the inability to say no, and I was constantly ostracized and still am from all feminist circles because they think I'm not feminist enough or I don't care about women as much as they do. Over the years, I've learnt to rely on my critical thinking abilities, and lead with honesty of intentions. That helped get over the need for social acceptance. I'm sure Emma will get there soon, she seems so empathetic and humble. God Bless. 🙏
Women somehow think only onces that have a hard time in jobs and life in general but most women would not be able to deal with how it would be like to be a man. You get zero help from anyone and your never bailed out of bad decisions you have made. When you speak about your emotions in public your most of the time laughed at or made fun off. Also you can be a real dick to someone without there being a consequence for your actions.
@@Lightflames85 Try thinking about it this way. Both Russia and America are EXTREMELY dangerous countries. However, if you grow up in Russia or America you learn to navigate the country with ease. Sure there are aspects of the country that are more dangerous than others and you know to be hyper vigilant to your surrounding in those areas when you are there, like New York or Chicago. Different rules for different environments. BUT if you took an America and dropped them in Russia, they may not be able to navigate with ease. Customs and expectations are different. You can get a way with one thing in Russia that you could not in America and vice versa. The same applies to sex. If you are a woman you may struggle to adjust as a man and vice versa. But when you are brought up to be a man or woman your approach to the world and adversity is much like being conditioned to meet adversity in your own country.
Hope this lens helps. It's just two sides to the same coin.
@@Lightflames85well there are many benefits for being a man. But this is the most important one. Given that we would be willing to sell anything and everything to stay alive.
Consider it amazing that a man is less likely to be unalived by a woman, meanwhile a woman is most likely to be unalived by a man.
And these chances increase in a relationship 5% for men likelihood to be unalived by female partners or exes against 91% of women likelihood to be unalived by male partners or exes
Secondly, a man is most likely to live longer and healthier, make more money than a single man thanks to being in a relationship with a woman
while a woman is most likely to have her lifespan reduced by 20%, to be unhealthy and make less money than a single woman for being in a relationship with a man, especially marriage or cohabitation.
Not to mention that a man will do less chores than a woman in his lifetime and have more free time than a woman in his lifetime. Married men have 5hrs more of leisure over married women.
A man will sleep more hours than a woman in his lifetime. A woman will spend more time working than a man in her lifetime
because women's house chores and services to men and children are 24/7 and even at the grandma stage they don't retire, if the men and the children are still around. And many times grand children are left in their care too.
And most women also have a 9-5 or a business. They work in and outside the house. Something men rarely do.
So apart from all the other benefits of being a man , I think a comfortable life and money is what people care about the most, and as a man you're winning in comparison to a woman.
Focusing on all your advantages as a man will prevent you from feeling sorry for yourself and perhaps have gratitude, for your position although not perfect but also empathy for the other gender.
Finally, this system is created and run by men. And as far as I have observed given these benefits and some, that men are receiving they haven't done anything to change it.
However every now and then men will complain about the situation men have created to women, to make them feel guilty about it or convey to women that men have it harder? Which is strange
I don't know if men think in a system created by men, men who are known as the face of instability, the originators of oppression on the planet will
not prioritise themselves, but women.
And I wonder if these complaints are intended to make women rescue men from the system men have themselves created and uphold. Which is obviously the most unmanly or cowardly thing for men to do,
but also understandable given the position of a woman as the cleaner, and the backbone in a man's life. Again even this attitude alone shows that while women fight for themselves against men, men are also counting on women to fight for them against men.
So men's life may not be perfect but these comparisons alone show women have it way harder than men, and if the roles were reversed, men would have dismantled the system a long time ago.
Feminism would not have been their push. Ultra feminism, it would have been
Men being comfortable with more pay wouldn't have pushed for equal pay like feminism does, but for more pay like they have and extra change for the trouble.
They wouldn't have pushed for equality in the home and reciprocity like feminism does but for supremacy in the home like they have it now, with more benefits for the trouble.
But the current comfort and benefits sedate them, blurs their ambitions until they meet a stone in the road, then they dream of a revolution which dies out at the next life's caress.
@@dearbrave4183Nonsense. Men have it harder, but that's what they're built for. Men are the disposable sex, meant to throw ourselves at the world in the hopes of attracting a mate in the attempt.
Men built the world, yes, but they didn't do it for men, the world is built for women to live in and men to work for. If there are any advantages to being a man, they're almost entirely biological, as a consequence of our role in relation to the species.
Simply put, women and men are not equals in reality, we possess different natures. So to expect equity in outcomes along any statistic is absolutely bizarre.
Men do the vast majority of work, women control the vast majority of the economy, they tend to be a net cost for the system in western nations; extracting more money as a group than they generate, by a wide margin.
If we start comparing men and women as apples to apples, women are going to lose at every point, they're weaker, less stable, less loyal, higher maintenance both materially and socially, they're more gullible, weaker to general social pressure and less hardy and capable of necessary job types. Men have a much wider distribution of traits, meaning, for example; that almost all geniuses are men, as well as almost all total morons, and this applies for pretty much any trait.
This means that as a society scales up in population numbers, the extremes of society will become more and more male-dominated. From 10 million people, the 10 smartest, toughest and most competent are likely all men.
i feel you, im not really assertive or confrontational. while i do like discussing these topics, i still have a hard time putting my thoughts into words or trying to make sense of my beliefs especially when asked about by others around me.
This is becoming misogyny in a new skirt. Men taking over women's spaces. But ladies we have ourselves to blame. We were outside screaming "YASSSS QUEEN" "SLAAYYYYYYYY" and now they're looking to slayyy us out of existence, but they could never!
I'm not a woman, but I know there have been lots of (based af) women not supporting this from the very beginning. Certain lesbians especially.
Women should stop dressing like men too.
@@BlueNorth313 except the feminists were supporting it for men, they cheered on the destruction of male spaces and weird theories on masculinity. Terfs are just the feminists who can’t handle the chickens coming home to roost.
And men have been against this since day one, because we are all such misogynists, am i right? 😂
Naah, dont listen to us about what are bodies can do, we only say it because we hate women...
Cant make this shit up 😐
thats what happens when you keep telling yourself youre oppressed. you get oppressed lol
No Emma...you do not have to educate yourself! except if is to accept you are a woman and you have to assume your position, your voice, without being afraid to be canceled...
Well said. Thank you.
Emma is too much of wimp and trying to pander to these weirdos.
everyone should continue educating themselves. But she shouldn't fear speaking her mind. Moots the point of the feminist movement.
@@Ndasuunye Educating themselves on what?
@@Ndasuunyeeducating yourself means I can't say shit unless I feel educated on the matter. Not going to happen. You educate me if I say something wrong.
Absolutely amazing how they immediately attack the most attractive woman.
Love how these comments I just kissing mad ass. Women = victim I guess. Poor wittle female…
@@maxhatush5918it is an observation. Why you spiraling
@@maxhatush5918 lol why can't a female be a "poor" ? Women are untouchable i guess, they have no feelings? 😂
@@janelleg597I'm genuinely curious if this kind of behavior should be considered normal or functional😂
I don't think that is why tho.
Im be honest, no one on the panel is a feminist, the fact that they deny women the right to be women and want to include men. Thank you for covering this, hopefully one day Emma learns to us her voice against bullies like this.
She probably has ACTUAL feminist beliefs and cares for women. Everyone else is probably just for trans people and mainstream feminism.
As it turns out: Most feminists are incredibly stupid and just go with the flow
One day they're gonna say you have to suck dick to be a feminist, and they're gonna do it
Emma YOU DID NOTHING WRONG!! Thank you!! She spoke for majority of the women the older guy was focused on minority women two they did good.
Aye 😂 they're so woke they're literally sleep deprived 😂😂😂
How are they woke tho😂
@@khadijahbegum3546 because they're so rtrd'd they're permanently in the I just woke up but am not awake state of mind.
@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984 thank you for this I couldn't have said it any better
@@sumsayslug- You mean you both would have ended up talking nonsense?
"Woke" - Time to grow up and stop using such reductive language if you want to be taken seriously.
It's insane that those people cannot tolerate a pretty feminine woman expressing her concerns about problems that affect the female experience, Emma is an excellent feminist she's concerned about the women's problems about women spaces, about males taking over those spaces and the fact that two biological males are telling her how to think, how to express it's insane. The feminist movement and the LGB movement were pretty justified and logical at first but once the tr*nsgender and q*eers were added to the lingo the two movements absolutely lost all meaning.
same thing with blm 😂
No one likes pretty feminine women, it’s unfortunate.
People pretend women aren’t awful to each other because we always blame men for women’s problems. Women can be TERRIBLE human beings to one another and get away with it because no one holds women accountable in general.
Found the terf
@@essies4294 i mean thats like most straight dudes preference lmao
It's hard to watch people being scared to speak the truth.
or even scared to have honest discussion lol
It's sad she didn't want to answer
Happens all the time, including on YT. It's a freaking shame.
Interesting how the discourse went from:
“being a feminist or not being a feminist” to “being a pro trans feminist or being an anti trans feminist.” It’s like the whole discourse dropped anti feminism
And now feminism is the accepted norm. Crazy how that works
You genuinely don't even need to argue against these people. Just let them talk and anyone who isn't stuck in a cliquey middle school girl mindset will see none of their views or opinions are in good faith. You know these people must be miserable to be around. Every single thing you say they will want to correct and control or you're ostracized
They're little authoritarian hypocrites addicted to feeling like they're in charge of and have control over others. It's normal to see in people who've made careers out of leadership positions, but to see so many random people walking around every day feeling like that is terrifying. Even more so to know how many people easily get addicted to that feeling and will do just about anything to keep getting the fix after a while.
just tell them there is a mole in their group and they tear each other apart it seems.
That's what I've thought about the 'woke' movement for some time now. How it started with good intentions, but was quickly taken over by high school mean girls (psychologically that is, many are adults). It's now all about social dominance and control, passive-aggressive bullying, etc, all from behind a false cloak of virtue.
Yeah, it's the cliquey middle school girl mindset or the corrupt nobles of the King's court mindset. Snakes everywhere, ready to sink a blade in your back, poison in your drink or poison in another person's ear about you.
@@paulw5039 Yeah I've pointed this out and wow will they get upset if you do. You unmask them and they'll lose it. It's hilarious to watch them have a melt down when they get called on their manipulative crap
This experiment just showed how some trans people can be entitled and forceful of their ideology. Good job Jubilee.
💯👏👏👏👏👏
There wasn’t any trans people there
@@velvetvulpixThe chick with the glasses literally said she was trans. You failure at life, pay attention.
Thanks for saying "some", often I see people not using that word, and thinking everyone trans must be a narcissistic type like like that...
Definitely met ones like that, but also met ones that acted like everyone else.
If it's online it's usually not hard guessing which someone is, there's patterns in profiles I noticed over time :v
...And intolerant, hateful, bigoted , racists, should I go on ?
Telling Emma she did nothing wrong literally brought me to tears 🤣 I feel like Emma all the time so I thank y’all for that.
If you’re moderate these days you get flak from both sides lol
This just goes to show that no matter what race, gender, group, or creed, you're a part of people within that same group will tell you how to think and act. In conclusion, allow these conversations to motivate you to do your own research on a topic to form your own opinion because life is just perspective and everyone has their own. Anyways, funny ending to the video. Thank you for the content.
These kinda people in the LGBT+ community legit make me feel so embarrassed for being gay and just in general being in this community. Like, why do we constantly have to force ourselves into spaces, why are we all always trying to cancel people simply from something we don’t agree with and gatekeeping women and their struggles when it has NOTHING to do with us. We’re making so many steps backward, after we made so many steps forward. I just need smarter people from my community to come out and speak for once ☠️☠️
Well, feminism and it's ideology is open for anyone to discuss and be part of. This movement is continually changing like our society. So don't feel too bad, they don't accurately represent the whole community, just themselves.
Well Snow you are a beautiful soul and you should never be embarrassed for what other people do. I think most of us out here can still see people for who they really are, and it's pretty evident that you're a wonderful individual.
I wish that everyone could just be recognized for who they are, not for which group they belong to, or sexual/gender anything they identify as, I don't understand why any of that matters, or is considered the basis of a person? Just be a good person and everything else is private business. But I'm old so maybe I'm just not seeing it??
Gays were treated horribly prior to broad acceptance now its treating the culture that gave them the rights in total disregard.
You forgot the rest of the alphabet
@@nizarbellamqaddam2644 I’m the rare breed of gay who legitimately thinks we should have just stopped at LGBT+, to continuously add on more and more is ridiculous and makes us look even more like clowns.
There are many feminists like myself who watch your videos and appreciate you speaking TRUTH. Thank you.
stock up on dog & cat food its going to be a hard latter part of ya life
@@bigcockedman714Gotta stock up on that snail food for Gary.
@@sodokami6347 not me
Transplaining
@@bigcockedman714that name of yours is really doing a lot of heavy lifting for your brain dead ass.
I'm glad you guys brought this topic up. It's crazy to me that as a woman I feel completely left out of the feminist conversation. It's been completely taken over it's now a debate between the red pill manosphere the LGBTQ, trans women and basically everyone but biological women seem to have a voice in this lately.
so pretty much you can only speak if you were born with balls? kind of moots the feminist movement don't ya think?
@@Ndasuunye you know there are non-binary and transmen. your polemic sucks. there's literally a transman in this vid playing along, so what IvanaSantini writes is also a bit disingenous. although as someone who is technically LGBT I agree somewhat and I don't want to be associated with LGBT anymore. sadly.
@@Ndasuunye I'm assuming you were talking to someone else? It seems as though two comments have been deleted I guess your rebuttal destroyed whatever point they were attempting to make lool
Honestly if you live in the US where most of this nonsense is happening, women over there being shut down this way is deserved. Got too complacent and lacking self awareness to a point where they became fighting mules for everyone they see as marginalized and now they are being erased because smart people put their interest first. Women wants to be the savior of everyone but them and accepted the rainbow as king in their own spaces. That's what you get I guess....
Because women don't claim the space. You've freely given it to trans and other anti-women people.
"Anti feminists dress for comfort rather than style." He really said that in this lineup.
But what you guys both said about feminism and how transwomen act in feminist spaces is so true it should be used in all the arguments.
That twist though? wow man, really exposes how quickly they turn on you for saying the 'incorrect' opinion.
The irony being that Emma was being judged for dressing style over comfort
Wtf was that guy on about. So black and white “yo shoes look mighty conservative, I think you hate women because of yo shoes”
Is Emma the odd one out for being the only one who is even remotely an actual feminist?
shes the only remotely normal one lol
she will educate herself out of the feminism agenda, because she was voted out on second round unanimously. she was glazed by wtf happened.
Completely agreed with Preach on "most feminists are not 'feminists'"
Emma looks and acts the most "feminine" in this video and they critique her because she looks so feminine
if modern 'feminism' is designed to ignore the voice of feminine/weak women, then it's anti-feminist
I remember having a discussion with a liberal and they kept interrupting me and not letting me have a say in the conversation, so I stopped, said respectfully I can't even talk in this conversation, so I will simply agree to disagree and no longer try to speak when I am just going to be stomped down before I even talk... and I kept shutting down further chatting until the person realized what they were actually doing. Not listening. Not actually having a conversation. It becomes a "ready to take my turn to shut yours down" style of talk. That's not a conversation.
Im trying to learn this!!!!!
That was a leftist. There's a difference between them and liberals.
A lot of people overlook the listening part of communication. Listening can be very insightful
@@bendover7841all leftists I know are more based than that
@@Limbaugh_ Everybody in this video was a leftist. As you can see, ain't no such thing as a based leftist.
Came into a group where they determine who is not a feminist and the women who said she felt she never could speak up around men had two biological men explain how they should think
imagine saying someone IS NOT a feminist because they don't want MEN in women's sports. clown world
The thing is, the majority of people who who obsess over women’s sports don’t actually give a fuck about it. I’m talking people who have either never thought about women’s sports or used to mock it until they realised they could use it to shit on trans women and pretend they have a rational reason for it. If you deny this then you’re not being honest. Just look at the US for instance. In Arkansas, they passed a slew of anti trans women laws and when the governor was asked how many trans athlete she thinks there are in her state, she couldn’t give an answer. Turns out, there’s literally just *2* . *2* trans athletes and spent so much energy, time, political capital on this as if this was a serious issue in her state. Meanwhile, like most Republican states, Arkansas has a high infant mortality rate and that’s even something that’s under Republicans radar. I don’t necessarily disagree about separating trans athletes and cis athletes (even though, if you actually want total fairness in sports then you’d also have to exclude cis women who naturally have higher testosterone levels and higher muscle mass than the average cis woman. Someone like Serena Williams does have that natural advantage, more so than even some trans women who have fully transitioned so if your concern is genuinely fairness then you’d also want athletes like Serena to be banned from competing against other cis women) Bur when this insignificant issue becomes a major part of one’s political identity, then you know they’re not honest about their true motivations.
Its insane. These women are actually supporting real misogyny. They cheer for men destroying women in sports. They've lost it.
You mean biological males, not men
Exactly, men with a big M! Tired of these mentally ill people acting like narcissists!
@@Franz304No he said it right, they are men.
As a feminist, I relate a lot to Emma. It scares me that we can't even feel safe to address our concerns. I know a lot of my friends who are feminists like me and don't feel safe anymore in what is supposed to be a female space. I mean that's kind of the point of what is happening right now. We are told we can't have female-only spaces anymore. We have no rights to fairness, safety and privacy... It warms my heart to see you guys agreeing with us as well. We are all confused about how to fight it though because when you have a prime minister who would be the first to call us transphobic, then how do you fight for your right?
There is no "safe." When you speak up and you speak out, be prepared for someone to try to shut you down. That's how free speech works. Plant your feet and don't back down if it's important to you. Waiting for someone to give you safety is going to be a long, long wait. If they walk away mad or you end up being the outcast then live with it.
I fully support women having women only spaces. Honestly, for how many groups the LGBT have under their umbrella, it would make total sense for each of them to have their own spaces with their own people that they can identify the most with. I'm still trying to make sense of why anyone wants to forcefully identify with someone else's struggle that they know nothing about. And if anyone is against you or your female friends grouping up together exclusively just to have one place of comfort in this world, then they can go kick rocks and fuck them very much.
nature is healing
Reminds me of when countless male spaces were deemed "sexist" and unfair by feminists and bulldozed, despite the evidence of its detrimental effect on men and boys.
Not particularly fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?
I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to feel even the smallest bit of empathy or compassion for this complaint. I think it's a valid point, but feminists did the same thing---and worse---to men and celebrated it as a victory over their patriarchy boogeyman.
The trans debate tearing you all apart is a fitting dose of payback.
😂 A good way to win the war is to not start it. You ladies weren't oppressed in 2007 so the fact we're here at all is a travesty. The Westboro crazies predicted everything that would happen this decade.
I know a good way to fight it, how about when men give you good advice you actually take it?
I don’t know if Jubilee ever realized this but when they do these Odd Man Out videos, they are actually exposing just how deplorable some of the people they bring on are. Like Sweeney saying the guy wearing running shoes for comfort is a conservative thing, I thought “what kinda kangaroo logic is that?!” A lot of the people in these videos will try to get people to think they’re deep thinkers but the more you watch, the more surface level their thinking is.
Spot on
It's reassuring to see the weirdos exposing themselves & their thought process
Come on dude... that's exactly why they pick these people.
He’s just your typically catty gay man. Explains why he felt so comfortable pushing at Emma. He uses his femininity as armor to abuse women.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757right, normal balanced people wouldn’t get discussed or clicked as much
such shallow waters, that it doesn't even look like that there's any in it.
My grand dad was an old fashioned male chauvanist. He thought women were over emotional , cried for no reason, and didn't say what they meant. And now we have dylan mulvaney, who thinks he is a woman because he cries all the time and says he's fine when he's not. Progress is a wonderful thing.
Yeah, same shyt different day.
It's like Monday but it's on another new week
nah i dont think you're right in this one, dylan mulvany never made the claim that he is a woman because he's done curtain things.
@@sjkdsfsdf52 🤡
@@sjkdsfsdf52 he’s referring to the “day 1 of being a girl” tiktok
"i'm about keeping women accountable"
hmm hmm, yes, do go on.
"jk rowling"
LMAO
As a Feminist, I agree with Preach. I'm a Feminist but don't claim it out loud because the Feminist I grew up with are not the same Feminists now. I dont know who tf these people are. Or what they stand for.
Same for me ❤❤❤
why would even need to be in a community that will force you not to be yourself and spend your life walking on egg shells around them while they place rules to basically control you and won't even allow you to leave as a respected person? i am not a feminists nor will ever be even if the damn world forces me to be. i'm red pilled or mgtow LIKE, but never in any actual groups. i don't need to be one, but i often agree and disagree with them like anyone and respect their voices as they respect mine. rather be who you are and by your own choices and decisions. than a mindless disposable and used drone.
Perhaps it’s because the movement has been infiltrated and taken over? The “new” feminists have alienated everyone that’s not them. I don’t want to have anything to do with them, even if I agree with certain topics. Those people who are the gate keepers are insufferable.
We've gone into full goofy mode with feminism where so-called "women's rights activists" are supporting men unfairly competing against women and hurting their athletic careers.
Feminist has become a swear word. Lol. Why does everything have to swing so far to the opposite ends.
I feel like it would be so difficult to weed out who the “real” feminist is because there seems to be so many versions of feminism. Now it’s unreal.
😂 It would have been easy since only 1 is real Emma is the only real feminist here.
Nope. Feminism is a cult . That is OBVIOUS from the video. The white man and the sexy feminine woman were voted out.
the basics today are :
2nd wave feminists (old school thoughts from materialism and class analysis, anti porn, anti surrogacy, gender critical "terfs", pro choice)
VS
3rd wave feminists (new wave postmodernists, "sex work is work", "trans women are women", still pro choice)
Emma is a little gender critical (a smidge!) and all the others turned against her for that because they are all firmly 3rd wave gender woo loonies.
As a trans woman, you are 'a guest at best'. I'm going to use that, Aba. And I'm so glad you finally recognized the stunning bravery of that Destiny woman. Edit: I never got so many likes, MOM I'M FAMOUS. Mom...?
As a Caribbean American I agree and we both go about our lives differently but we’re still human making mistakes which is what we do a lot because of our faults
I think "invasive species" is a more accurate term than "guest". Considering how women are expected to conform to the wants and demands of transwomen (biological men).
So cultured
@@buttersstotch4922 lol and you get called a bigot for that. Biological men dressing up as women are allowed to boss feminists and women around in general but they look at you weird if you were a normal man saying the same shi. It's a circus Olympics at this point, who is the greatest clown?
U r gay man
This honestly went exactly the way I thought it would. Men and attractive women were gonna be the first out and immediately targeted.
With only 2 women in the group, they ganged up on and kicked out one of them. None of them are feminists. They all failed to support women. Isabel didn't support Emma, and Emma was afraid to speak up against trans in sports. The all failed.
All it needed is just one person in there, male or female, who wasn't a feminist. The ideology is poison let's be honest.
Isabel was instigating against Emma on the behalf of men. What a clown.
There are 3 girls. Emment or whatever her fucking name is isnt a male. She is too weak minded for that
All because one of the women pointed out the advantages of males dressed in skirts trying to infiltrate women spaces!
Emma has common sense and thats why they voted her off she still has hope in a working society
These types of people are just so miserable. Fake friendliness, vapid personalities because of the clamping force of potential to offend, the condescending and smug attitude that somehow comes along with it. I just dislike almost everything about them.
Edit - EMMA. PLEASE, PLEASE do NOT go against your gut instinct and let these narcissistic CRYBULLIES turn you to delusion or, just, who you are not as a person. Don't let them play that game on you.
I had a coworker confide in me that she sometimes calls her trans friend by their dead name on accident. I told her to give herself grace and that she wasn’t a bad person if she had the right intentions and tried her best. Another coworker who happens to be trans overheard and called me out (shouting) in front of a group of about 5 or 6 people for being a transphobe. They lectured me about how trans people can choose their gender and I should respect their pronouns that may change even if they change pronouns daily. Nobody stood up for me, not even the coworker who confided in me about their trans friend’s dead name. As a Black woman, I felt so embarrassed and realized that I no longer had to only worry about men or nonblack people silencing or threatening me in the workplace. It felt like that trans person wanted to compete with me to be ‘more oppressed.’
Just shows the true color of a lot of transgender people and how authoritarian they are. Many regimes in the past and present have used intimidation tactics and pseudoscience to have their ideology reign supreme, just like transgenderism.
Should of called them a racist lol
Girl if I were with you I’ll call this out cause wth
Was said trans individual white?
@@godofmath1039 yes🥲
Mansplaining does not exist in this dojo.
Salutations to the grand master
Yoooo the goat. How’d u like the card?
@@viscount0405 Ayy!! 🙋🏻♂️
@@icecoldfire25 It was GREAT, bro! Way better than I thought it would be. 😆
Mansplaining is simply logic. Women don’t deal with logic so well.
It’s sad and hilarious that Emma got more balls. Than the guy’s on that show. 😂
Because a male-feminist has very low testosterone and isnt a real man
For someone screaming not to be labeled and to be treated equally to then judge someone based on “only conservatives wear comfortable shoes…” is just mind blowing. I’m 3 min into this video and have already rolled my eyes so much Imma need physical therapy after.
It's always the worst type of hypocrite that gets on these videos.
The funniest part is that the supposed "Comfort over style" peeps still had more style then the rest.
Great Video! Loved the bring back of "Layers" joke and intersectionality description. Showing this to my female friends because this is exactly what is problematic with allowing females to be outspoken by Trans-Women and Gay Men in everyday society.
The patriachy is so strong that even when it gets some HRT, a surgery or two, and wears a skirt and makeup, it still tells women what TF they should do/think. Some OP type sh*t, that is. Undefeated. Lmao.
😂
I'm wondering if the patriarchy is using trans women to eventually repeal the 19th and give up women's right to vote.
Men stay winning 🏆
I wish Mike Tyson would identify as a woman just for a couple fights to show these feminists how men have no advantages over women. Lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and that's the truth 💯 🤣
And the sad part is, I guarantee that those "feminists" (or trans advocates) who were so quick to judge based on appearance and slight variations in beliefs learned NOTHING from this experience. Self awareness: zero.
It's funny how all this progress ended up oppressing women even more 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t feel bad for women at all because they collectively supported these movements and now it’s becoming oppressive to them and I find it hilarious 🤣
The same techniques of silencing, obfuscating, overtalking, playing the victim, accusations and labels are coming back and biting them in the butt. It's delicious.
@jcrunkthank you that’s what I’ve been thinking for along time and really oppression is happening in other countries and much more dangerous than we can’t even imagine.
Men are only enjoying this because they think women will just peace out feminism (women's rights) because of the toads in this video lol. Rad fems exist. Logical opinions Emma shared aren't mainstream feminism in America but they do have their spaces, AND those spaces actually talk about female centered issues rather than whatever is going on in liberal media for the year.
I’m absolutely surprised how a gay man was chosen to be more feminist then an actual woman. A MAN
It's sad it's come to this point. It's like having guests you invited into your home who just start squatting, claim the home as theirs and kick you out.
that's such a great way to put it
They shouldn't have been invited in 😭
We told Em(ma) not to let them in. Y'all had to cry about marginalization.
Some people are marginalized for a fucking, reason.
I really hope Emma sees this somehow, she needs to know her instinct on the trans thing is right.
" walking away from this, I really want to educate myself more on transgender women"
*Gets marginalized by the people she wanted to learn about*
I hope she learned her lesson 😂
This video was one of the best one's yet! Finally Jubilee is showing them how they treat people within their "group(s)", it's so refreshing to see it done the way it was!
Also, thankyou to you two for adding actual depth and nuance to a subject that usually has one way tunnel vision, I feel like you've explained things many people think but aren't sure how to put into words.
The definition of a feminist is a PERSON who support women's rights.
And not batshit crazy.
The batshit crazy part might be paraphrasing a bit, but overall yeah that’s the definition.
Being batshit crazy is not in the definition so feminists can be batshit crazy
Equal rights for women, which they absolutely have in the West + lady privileges of being treated like a lady. Modern feminism is: female superiority at the expense of men.
Your missing a key component in the definition that makes these kind of people go crazy with supremacy ideas: a feminist is a person who support women's right, ON THE BASIS OF EQUALITY. Not for giving more right to women, trans or anything else. That's a tiny but huge difference.
That's the definition, but most people don't care.
Man you can see Emma shut down and immediately start trying to do damage control. It was like they were yelling at and hitting her without actually doing it. I felt so bad for her.
The Trans debate will always be a tough one especially within liberal spaces and sports. I’m pretty liberal myself, but I’m also really engrossed in athletics and it’s VERY hard to deny advantages between genetically male and female participants.
There’s no debate. The point isn’t if it’s “fair” or not. It’s that inclusion > fairness
How do they even manage to do that lol. Denying common sense that matches up with science.
Nothing tough about common sense. It’s when you start denying reality you live in delusion
its rather simple to include trans into sports, just put them in mens sports.
Forcing people to compete in athletics against others that have an inherent physical advantage in strength, reaction time, endurance, and quickness just because said party FEELS like they are of the opposite gender is the antithesis of Liberalism. I hate that the far left hijacked the term liberal.
the "layer" bit coming back killed me
Dave Chappelle was right. The only way feminism could achieve its goals is if it's run by men 🤣🤣
Can you elaborate? Doesn’t really make sense 😅
@@IHNIFANi think that's a trans joke.
@equos5060 no no it isn't a joke... in reality feminism can't really get anywhere without ignorance or a degree of allowance by men. That's what David was trying to say...
@@IHNIFANIt makes perfect sense. For women to get rights, they had to recieve it from men. What can be given, can also be taken away. That's why feminists must keep men on side, and yet have failed miserably.
So, sooner or later, women's rights will be taken away.
😂😂Bruh.
Also, they showing how small minded they are by saying anyone not a feminist must be a conservative.
They probably look like conservatives from their point of view.
They too caught up in their own bubble
an independent conservative woman is also a feminist. i find it funny that these "corporate and commercialized" feminists are ironically NOT diverse and inclusive. it's like atheists stating that conservative atheists doesn't exists. they actually do.
Can't instill logic into the willfully ignorant.
America is a mess. They wonder why other countries laugh at us. These kind of videos never cease to show me how out of touch people are when they actually leave their echo chamber 🤡
Great video as usual aba and preach.
Well, the state of America is not as bad as it seems. These videos have just been in the focus of the mainstream so long it makes people feel like this mindset is taking over. If people would just go outside and talk to the average person, they would find that most of us are quite reasonable.
@martinpadilla5224 Of course. This comment is more so about that even when you go out and interact in your daily life, there's been an alarming uprise of people with these kinds of mindsets. And I find myself coming across more of these kinds of people in day to day life than I did before. And I stand on what I said about America.
I live in New Zealand, and although this movement has caught on a little, it hasn't really captured the attention of the teens. They, for the most part, don't care.
My oldest son is going to start high school next year, and we did the open night.
You know how they have tables that show different groups, sports, classes etc the school offers?
They had an LGBTQ table with students that had information on lgbtq at that school.
Without a word of a lie, not a single person went to that table. The entrie night.
It was manned by 3 teenage girls. I kind of felt bad for them after the night ended because it was hours of sitting there without talking to anybody because nobody cared.
And it's not like there was only a couple of people there, it was at least 200 to 300 students, and their family (all the future year 9 students)
@@-Gax- Big fat W for all the teens who didn't go over to that table 🗿
Sorry to tell you, but it isn’t just America, but it being so big and been at the center of western society it gets the spotlight 24/7. A great of example is the lesbian feminist activist who is(or was) facing charges because she said on Facebook that trans women can’t be lesbians
This was a banger video. The twist, everything. Jubilee have done it well this time. Emma did very well and still got ganged up on. After she was outed, she took it up and said "My bad, I'll educate myself." although she did NOTHING wrong.
Props to the non-feminist who didn't show up as well, it led to this masterpiece and proved that there are common infighting within these groups caused by some people trying to combine both groups and make it into a one big new group that has lost all its meaning. It is fine if you want to tackle both issues at the same time, but they aren't COMPLETELY the same things, some properties of one group can be hugely different than the other. You can tackle similar issues that are present in both groups, but acting like both of the groups are all completely the same just will not work, simply put. 4:30 and 12:12
Men-women equality is one thing, trans rights and issues is another. There can be similar properties and similar issues, but they are not one and the same.
Let's see how fast my notification inbox gets filled up.
Jubilee stumbled into this outcome whilst the contestants inadvertently found themselves on a wild goose chase under false pretenses. They did them all dirty, tbf.
Despite the fact she would have been a crap mole anyway; in all honesty Emma didn't do anything "very well"..... She certainly didn't express her point of view particularly well. She made a poor job of presenting what could have been a very simple argument. You win that argument by taking it outside the realms of gender/identity politics and into the humanistic realm; illustrating it in the terms of combat sports, where the biological imbalance between competitors can have a potentially fatal outcome.
....Once you accept that to be of primary importance (rather than allowing ego to prevail) then working backwards from that there are only 2 viable options; remain competing within under your birth sex or you accept that a 3rd competitive 'league' must be created for post transition females (lets face it the idea of post transition males competing with so-called "CIS" men isn't be a troublesome issue any time soon!).
On a broader level..... With a genuine willingness, we'll gradually find our way to amicably iron out the complicated challenges that sex/gender comparability/integration issues propose within modern society; but the culture war bullshit that it's currently been spun into certainly isn't the answer.
....It's gonna take (more) time and patience from every corner.
The funniest part is that they KNEW that one person is supposed to LIE and they voted out the person who clearly knew what she was not supposed to say but still said it.
They're feminists, not supposed to be smart
lol right? If i was looking for the mole i'd be looking at someone who is agreeing with everything and saying all the "right things" to not get kicked out, not the one going against the majority. But they literally looked at the two presumed "cis whites" and they kicked them out first
As a feminist it’s really weird how a man explaining anything in a non condescending or non sarcastic tone could be considered mansplaining🙄
its just explaining both genders do it, no matter what sex you always get condescending assholes.... feel like we going in circles, im not mansplianing lmao
I've been mansplained more by my own mother than any male I've ever interacted with. That's why I've considered the term mansplain so damn stupid. Like the other commenter said both genders can be interrupting know it all a holes.
People who bring the term mansplaining into a conversation usually are the ones femsplaining.
Exactly. I can’t tell you many times I’ve been called a misogynist or an incel for pointing that women can be at fault too, just as well as men can.
Question for you. What are you fighting for in the US? What right, or ability do you not have, that men do?
Woman (who's extremely agreeable but somewhat reasonable) gets told she's not a feminist by a gay guy and a women that doesn't want to be one.
It's hilarious.
Bruh yall chemistry is crazy man!
"His speech seemed very practiced, or thought out."
Apparently thinking before speaking isn't a feminist trait 🤣
I wonder if she was trying to say that he seemed performative, and it didn’t come out right.
Lmao😂
“Anyone who must say I am a feminist is no true feminist”
Tywin Lannister
Debate about feminisms ended up being a debate about biological males. Perfect summary
Love this. Its like you took the thoughts out of my brain. The way they gaslight women and shoehorn their issues into these discussions without fail makes me want to tear my hair out. Emma is the only non cringe person on the panel