Team Corally Kronos XP 6S unboxing and Arrma Kraton Comparison
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Thank you! This was very useful.
Maybe when they come out with metal chassis braces. Also everyone remember version 1 Krston? All the probs with diffs ect? I'll wait see what comes of it.
Man, great first look review!! Seeing how that truck has more/better chassis bracing and from the looks of it better shocks and servo, might just get one sometime down the road.!
Great comparison!👍
It's been awhile brother! Great video as always. Definitely got my eyes on one of these! Hopefully you'll be getting plenty of them in. Can't wait to see your first run video. 🍻🤠
Thanks for the comparison. Lighting was a little dark and hard to see at times. Looking forward to seeing how it holds up.
yeah sorry, thats why i switched to holding my camera with the light on... i really need to change that overhead to LED... It is bright in person but i noticed some while editing!
@@NPCRC I understand. Lighting can look fine in person and terrible on camera.
pretty sikk bro, great vid keep up the good work. ”kane halo
Nice and fair compared, no fan boying. Well done
The offset drive shafts will increase performance. Offset drive shafts stem from their compition cars, offset increases or decreases power bias front or reward 👊
VERY nice looking truck!!!! Looks to be pretty solid. Appreciate you doing this comparison video and as always, I enjoy watching your videos. Tons of good info!!! 😎😎👍👍 (oh yea, this is Brian from Nashville GA just in case you didn’t know I changed my TH-cam name).
Yes, it is actually made me put my kraton up for sale. Just too similar and I like the way it's built in comparison. Figured I'd need to give it a good set of test runs, for myself and others
That's one badass kraton excuse my language 💯💪🤝👊
Could you advise me weather a wheelie bar from the kraton would fit the kronos as the back kinda looks the same ??
it wont. You could bet a blank from T-Bone for the Kraton and drill your own holes to line up. That would work. Did it with my Kronos for the Basher front bumper.
@@NPCRC ok many thanks for your reply 👍
Appreciate your review. I understand it’s newer in the US but would you happen to know the parts support? I like it but am worried about getting parts when they break. Thanks.
The design is high tech
Great Video! That just a High End Kraton. So it will be a Winner!! Horizon Probably Owns Corally?! Looks way to Similar.
HRP is the distributor and Corally has been around for years, just in a racing market
It looks like the old kraton
Is it not pretty well established that chevron style tyres are shit on rc cars... like don't handle well or have much grip?
Very cool comparison man👏👍.....but I will stick with arrma. Just so close no need to buy one at this time in my opinion😉
Especially given they are at the same price. It doesn't make much sense. Now if they had come in 50-75$ cheaper it might tempt people. Also I think they did themselves a disservice by making them so similar. Why would us kraton owners wanna buy a copy that might not be as good. Now if it was a completely different looking truck it would intrigue me more.
I get that and that is why i mention having to have one in front of you. It is about $50 cheaper then the Arrma's through me and has better arms, better bearings, better wing mount by design, larger diff pinion, better rear and front bracing by design, better servo by spec and the fact the Arrma ones have a bad rap. There are benefits that make it more then the $50 though. Don't view that difference like grabbing a Bangood or Hobbyking RC and comparing it to the Arrma for the little difference. I am not telling you your opinion and feelings are wrong... Just pointing out that it is more then the money that leans in favor of Kronos out the box.
@@NPCRC Yeah I hear the diffs are not stamped and are cnc which that is a huge plus. I just wish they didn't copy the looks so much with the dementor and kronos. If they had a totally different look they wouldn't get compared as much. Plus alot of people own a kraton or outcast so isn't a ton of incentive to buy a rc that's so similar even if it has alot of upgrades over the arrma. I'm definitely still interested in them and looking forward to seeing long term reviews on them
@@cwatson42785 yeah the reviews are what is going to sell this truck to the people who are hung up on the similarities. But for about $50 less and some better stock features.. Some people will jump on board and get us testing some more of them. I plan on having some fun and comparing mine to my Kraton experiences. We will see what it's about, sooner or later
@@NPCRC Yeah I agree. Only thing I really didn't like with them being so similar is since I already own a kraton I don't see the need to run out and buy one. That's where I think they missed the mark. They are trying to take over arrma In the us market but they aren't gonna do it making trucks so similar. Especially with how many people own a kraton, typhon or outcast already. I would of bought one on day one if they came out with a proper 8th scale monster truck with no wing. Something that's lacking in the market and that traxxas and arrma don't have. That's what I'm hoping for. Anything new coming from redcat coming up?
I just watched TH-cam video review of the dementor and his had an all aluminum wing mount does this have that as well? Also I seen you have the 1450kv in your Kraton. I have that same CEN motor in mine I'm just curious what size pinion you run in yours?
20T currently with the stock esc. I tried 21t but seemed like too much draw for it. Might need a Hex6 or Max6 to make it go higher more consistently. As far as the Dementor, I too saw the wing mount and have already ordered all the parts to attempt to put it on the Kronos if possible. I will have an updated video if it is possible next week. Cost will already be a little high though... every part had to be bought individually, and need 4 bearings, 2 different screw sizes and some m3 nuts. Some people have the hardware to save a couple bucks on it but the parts MAP pricing $85 so selling it as a kit, I might have it down to $70-73... Let's see if it works first though, and then fir the inventory on parts to arrive. They have a skeleton inventory with the release... more said to be coming
@@NPCRC right on yea I love that motor on 6s I'm running a 23t on mine with stock esc fine, but am running the smaller dboots lp. That's is a little spendy to upgrade the wing mount, but if it truly makes it bullet proof maybe it's not! To be honest when I first seen these trucks coming out I wasnt to impressed. Now with the closer look at all the details they are looking more like there own design. Definitely can't wait for some run videos! Have good day!
@@alexbekkala1718 yeah the mount is high but if it works and makes everything a tank like the Dementor then I am fine with it.. hell I paid $50 for an SMT10 that I made into a brushless solid axle MT... so it's not unheard of.
They lack alot to me, everyone said the quality would be better but the only thing nice to me is the shocks, All the plastic and tires look very cheap to me very bang good like. So I'll stick to Arrma, plus parts out of the US would be a pain.
I think the motor and esc might be a upgrade over the arrma power systems and also the servo too but yeah I like the shocks. Tires look super cheap with no printing on them and shiny look to them. I think they missed the mark by copying arrma so much. Had this been a totally new style truck I think people would buy them up. I know they were trying to enter the USA market and "overtake" arrma but it makes zero sense coming out with copies when so many of us already own a kraton, typhon or outcast. Throw in its similar price points and its pretty stupid.
@@cwatson42785 yes sir like why have so close of names and styles lol like the dementor that's a straight notorious copy. The esc looks cheap also, the blx systems aren't bad and tons of people use them in tons of cars besides Arrma but we will see about the servo also, but ya these are a no go for me.
@@codenamethecleaner7519 Yeah brotha I definitely agree. It seems like the plastics might be a little bit brittle and cheap but time will tell. I just think they totally missed the mark copying arrma and at the same price. No real incentive to buy over a arrma. Plus in my opinion the kraton is a much nicer looking body than the kronos. But we will see
@@cwatson42785 The ESC looks like the King Kong with a different case on it exposing half the caps.
@@philthyco1 Good point philthy. It definitely does. Are these 180 amp tho? Or they 150a?
Armma and team corslly is the same based factory in the u.k.,that's why there so similar,I like it,makes more choices of rc u can collect from armma and these what do you like better Kronos or kraton??
I may have to take a trip to your store. I’m in AA co. Do you have Corally models in your store?
I do not have an RC shop yet. I am local PC and started the RC as time killer/hobby and it has just blew up. I do stock and sell some but no retail location.
Hi, I was lucky to get the chance to take a look at his truck over XMas in a hobby shop in Berlin Germany, the fist thing i thought was Arrrma lol, I think it's down to it's colour scheme, I have watch a few videos on this truck running, as it may have a little more punch from is electrical system than the BXL system, but it suffers the same type breakage as the Kraton even with those suspension arms, no one has really tested it yet like rich duper bash or RCDUD81 to see what it can really do?, the real test will be in it's chassis ? will it handle big air and bad landings? the Kranton needed M2C chassis upgrades to make it a true beast that it is now once you have upgraded it, the Kronos is to much like a Kraton and I'm not one to have to many of the same type of vehicle, if you enter this market your product has to beat hands down Arrma /Traxxas, a product out the box that would not need almost no upgrade and tough, Corally should had come out with something completely different than what Arrma has to offer, at this point there are no upgrades for the Corally range and it will depend on how many units are sold? for any company to start making upgrade parts, as to know what parts will be needed? , Update KilleroffroadHobbyz doing a light bash and no way like rich duper bash or RCDuD81, Corally's Dementor XP ends up with bent chassis and other parts.
Well I've heard what the owner wants to do and I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and sometime to see what they put forth. I do think the chassis is going to be more durable than the arrma stop but not as durable as the m2c stuff. Rich breaks a lot of parts, almost every time he goes out. The trucks brake and that is understandable especially when you're putting them through huge air. She landed wrong that's when the problems come in. Rich and them get a lot of really good Landings out of those long jumps that help keep the vehicle in one piece. I do agree though that they're going to have to step it up and get some nice upgrades, but I did hear that they're working on their own so again, I will give them the benefit of the doubt to step up and see what they produce for the vehicle. It's brand new so they just need a little bit of time. No one was making parts for arrma the way they are now back when they came out.
@@NPCRC it this point there are no better than Arrma but with out any benfits, like tons of upgrades you can get form the Arrma brand, Corally needs to break the US market so they need to come with bang, my local hobby are buying in there 1/10 cars but will not buy the 6s rang as there happy to stock Traxxsa /Arrma it will be interesting to see what happens, if your not into on road racing here in the UK, London, then you would not have heard of Corally, Have a great day and thanks for the reply, like your channel.
How beefier the arms look doesnt matter all of the failure points are in the pins when the arms is attached to thats the only stuff that will split.
Traxxas arrma 80% of the arm failures are where the pin goes trought the arm
The important stuff is the flex the arms can hold
Does it have rubber sealed bearings, my arrma lasting 4 outing all wheel bearings gone, had a hobao years and bearings lasted, i prefer this over the kraton
yes sealed bearings all around and i was just informed that they are aluminum bores on the shocks too. So with the arms, bracing, bearings, suspension and servo and servo mount... it has some upsides over an out the box Kraton for sure.
No Problems Computer & Hobby definitely looks an upgrade to me, was looking at getting a another arrma but now seeing I won’t, the quality is better on the kronos, one thing with the kronos on 6s just wants to wheelie all the time under power its the only thing putting me off,im waiting to see if some diff playing will sort it and im in! Good review by the way mate ill be following
@@fluffymat1 upgearing and center diff oils will be where i go to tame that once i run into that problem. I saw some guys trying to run it on 6S but their area was not very large to open it up and they may have been trying to get to top speed too quick to accommodate. I will play with all that for sure
No Problems Computer & Hobby yes mate ive seen something similar, be good to see how you find it, yeah a thick oil may help with that
A brand new suspension system is going to be tighter than a used one.
This is true but the crayton's only got about five runs total in two of them were speedruns and the oil was done on the third run after two stock runs so the oil is upgraded and fresh in the kraton and stock in the Corally, to be fair
Hey karl did you see my follow up email from Jan 2nd? Wanted to get a price on just the pillow ball for the front and the front and rear aluminum shock kit for the TR-SC10E. You might of missed my last email. Thanks bud
i will look now.. email's are all screwed up. I get way to much spam and have filters on alot to catch them. Sometimes things make it to the junk mail folder which i go through about once a week. I will look for it and see.
I searched the name and it was in "others folder".. this stupid Outlook has my inbox split into 2 sections and all my RC usually comes in on the correct side. maybe cause this was direct and not via my site? Either way, reply coming. Sorry about that!
@@NPCRC no problem man! I was a little tapped on my rc budget from the holiday and bought the sc10e and also a Mojave around the holiday so now I wanna start upgrading! No worries as I wasn't in a rush. Thanks man. And I really appreciate you doing this video!
What are those tires on the kraton called? are they good?
Mashers from PL.. and mine are strapped and GREAT.. Pre-mounted they balloon and don't have the same drive experience
@@NPCRC okay, thanks a lot.
The thing looks perfect besides the wing and Chassis will fold like a taco
I don't foresee that. The chassis is cnc not stamped and the stock braces seem like they will support the towers and keep the chassis from flexing under decent impact. Not saying it will never happen but It is no more likely to happen on this then anything else in it's class.
Amazed this company hasn't copied the 8S Kraton yet!
Redcat remotes feel low-end ,Traxxas and armma remotes too,all rc companies are not gonna give heavy led lit remotes with rtr cars,they all come with the chespest
it is a way of keeping the costs down for sure
those tires kinda remind me of the og. mt8. lol idk if there as bad but remember how soft n chitty those mt8 tires were lol almost comical
I DO!!! I also remember the SUCKED in anything wet. These do have better trad then those for sure though, just very soft rubber, feel like they will balloon up like crazy. We will see
It's all the same,armma 8th scale 6s and these and another 8th scale a arms,chassis,shocks,how much comparison can there be all knuckles the same,all the same besides some minor differences
CNC vs stamped on the chassis. CNC diffs and a little bigger on the diffs... added wing support, faster stock out the box and sealed bearings are some of the Corally benefits... they are similar but not the same
Yeah your rite they are a little faster only cause of s few teeth on gears that come stock,that's about it,just because parts have a different shap or a wing support doesn't really make it pergorm any better,not got what most people do bashing around in backyards,I can see racing pro with buggy's or truggy so then performance parts make a difference,buy if you just vadh who cares if one has more screed or a better wing support,I love armma but I'll take a team corslly just as fast
How about the redcat Kaiju I live it,6s and smaller then most of the other 8th scales so it's got to be faster,I love redcat,I just wish they made more upgrade parts for them not just stock
@@mychameleons5506 its new and they do have upgrades for alot of their trucks... All the Team redcat stuff is loaded with upgrade options... Volcano/tornado can be almost full aluminum, Dukono as well... blackout has some upgrades for it as well... Give it time and i would expect to see some for the kaiju as well
the shock bodies are ALUMINUM hard anodised
yes, ty, i found this out this morning from my rep. I have mentioned a couple times in the comments already. I will be damned if they felt like it when i was scratching at the threads
also the diff's are CNC
I'd be interested in trying one. I think it's good that Traxxas, Losi and Arrma have another competitor. I did see this video on TH-cam today: th-cam.com/video/a0ezk8NBxB4/w-d-xo.html (3:40) and It was a little concerning. Seems like alot of damage for a single tumble. That being said, we have all had bad landings.
i actually asked him about this... this was his reply: "Yes, it is winter here, a little bit over 0°c. I don't blame it about the breakage, i need more time to make my opinion. But what is sure is, out of the box it is more powerfull than the Kraton, it flip really more fast, and not only because of the tires. I planned to use it yesterday, but i have spent 1 hour in a cold wind with an other car, at the end it was to hard to stay outside so i came back home, too bad i wanted to run it again on a different bash spot."
In my opinion, it HAD to be freezing for those kind of breaks as they were rough but not for the added thickness of both those arms and wing mount.
To be fair to the Corally, I have my Kraton on here in summer, with similar landings, loosing stock arms and 1 RPM on hits similar. Didn't film my wing mount break but it too was a direct hit on the side of the wing, also in winter. His hit was worse then mine though.. i wrote it off as the cold and didn't mention it or make a point of it because I knew it was cold!
They are very cheap tires for a 6s rc
Corale who???
Corally, they have been around for many years. They were mainly a racing brand. This is their step into the basher market
I have yet to see one of these rip-off Corally trucks hit 70. Atleast the Arrmas hit the advertised speeds. No thanks. Multiple videos of chassis’s folding, drivelines bending, wing mounts breaking, bone dry diffs, a-arms breaking, pillowballs constantly popping out, lack of any aftermarket support, range issues on radio. I’ll stick to what I know and not a company that tried to completely rip-off Arrma in design and strategy. You can keep that Belgium built junk.