I may be having this problem with my traditional bow now. I know I have this panic when shooting my compound. I noticed improvement when I backed the poundage off with my compound bow, so I am seriously considering selling my 55 pound Martin, and going down to a 40 or 45 pound recurve. I am struggling to get the recurve to a full anchor point, so I tend to shoot so fast because I can't maintain full draw long enough due to the poundage. Thanks for posting this helpful video.
Sounds So much like you're telling my story at this moment! Struggling with TP for more then a year now, not able to hold at anchor when I want to shoot a target. Soon as I touch my face the arrow is gone! While it's not a problem to hold when there's no arrow knocked or when I don't plan to release or aiming at a brick wall for example. Now since a couple of weeks I'm having some lower back problems and because I still wanted to shoot some arrows, yesterday I decided to shoot my sons bow. It's 30# while my own bow is 45#. And I immediately could feel I was having much more control over my shot, Being able to hold and feel at anchor, decide when I would start my release. So I think I'm going to shoot this one for a while and then switch to my first bow that I still got and is 35#. Meanwhile start working on the mental aspect of dealing with TP and keep shooting the same side (RH). So thanks you very much Tim for this video, I'm going to watch part 2 now! 😉
Excellent video! Traditional archery can be a struggle with many highs and lows. But we keep coming back because we have a deep passion and love for the sport. Your sharing of your personal struggles lets other archers know that they are not alone when problems arise. Sharing your personal journey really adds to the effect of the video. I enjoy the information that you give and look forward to future tips and techniques from you! I am going to promote you and your channel with all of my customers. Thanks again and I hope you have a great day!
I do really appreciate this video. You have touched on some of the problems that I have deal with since I have started shooting traditional archery. At one time I was shooting longbows that was 70 lb at my draw length and it was hard to control but I continue trying to hit my mark. I have started shooting lower poundage and have found that it has been more productive. I am considering a 45 pound recurve to get better at my form and a good shot process.I have three compound bows and at times have become so frustrated at my recurve shooting that I thought about giving it up completely and just sticking with my compound but I do love the traditional side of archery. Thanks for a great video.
Oh my gosh!! You described my target panic, as well as my solution, to a T!! I have struggled with target panic for the past 10 years shooting traditional (which is the main reason why I still hunt with a compound a good bit) because a friend of mine started me out on a 70 pound recurve! Over the past 10 years I dropped to a 60#, then 38#, then last year someone gave me one of those green fiberglass bows for children. Low and behold, that was the best thing for helping with my target panic! A 20-pound bow! HAHAHA Great video
I need to go lower in weight, I have a bad habit of short drawing. Even if I tell myself to hit my anchor, I will drop that shot about an inch or so short, drive me crazy. Best video on this I've seen.
Thank you Tim,After years of working my way to champion status amongst friends stumping and in my backyard, a witnessed, "easy", hunting license test this weekend slapped me hard....What I can do all day, all year back home turned into total havoc -shot sequence, follow through and other important factors evaporated!Will get back in the saddle, maybe compete some 3D to get my head back straight also under some pressure!Great videos, shoot straightcheers, Thorsten
Love your videos. I’m having target panic so bad I’ve debated to stop shooting. I’m lefthanded and come to my anchor just fine but my bow arm freezes above target and can not get it down no matter what I do. I’ve shot traditional for a couple years and I haven’t been able to beat it. Debated going right handed and see what Happens, friend has a 35lb. RH recurve he said he would let me try.
Wow!!! I gotta wonder if this wasn't meant for ME personally..... In the late '80s (I think...) I switched from a 70 lb. compound to a 59# Brackenbury Drifter Recurve. Still have the bow. But I figured out, sorta on my own, and after borrowing a lighter draw weight bow, I didn't have the muscles yet to shoot the Brackenbury. Probably STILL don't. Have had to buy a lighter, inexpensive-but-decent longbow to learn form. Have also learned that on some days, I'm better off if I go build arrows, or play my guitar, or whatever, rather than continuing to shoot while tired. My way of saying "Thanks!" for this video, and "Great Job!"
Can you discuss how learning to shoot a recurve left handed cured your target panic shooting right handed and when you decided to switch back ?Your traditional journey is similar to mine and I am really working hard to get rid of it . Thank you !
Sorry for the long delay. You are basically starting with a clean slate. When I switched sides it was all new and I made sure that I was in complete control of my shot process. The draw, the anchor, the aim and the release. My first traditional bow was too heavy for me. Sure I could draw it and hold it, I was young and strong but I couldn't hold it, aim it and shoot it well. Bad habits began to creep in and I became a mess. Any little break in concentration triggered the shot. I then became so focused on the getting to anchor and shooting that I forgot to aim. The downward spiral began and it becomes extremely difficult to every get back into the proper shot cycle. By going left handed and shooting an extremely light bow you are completely reprograming how you shoot the bow. Refuse to take short cuts and refuse to let the arrow go until "you" are ready. One of the best ways to do this is with a light bow you can control. Develop some type of unconscious trigger, a clicker, a feather to the nose.....something that will signal the release. This will help you as you improve and slowly increase the weight of your bow. There are plenty of solid instructors out there to help you along. Ask for their help, take lessons, it will be money well spent in the long run and you will enjoy the journey. Good luck and remember it takes time to shoot these bows well. Don't chase it....it will come with hard work and commitment.
I just started from scratch when I learned to shoot from the opposite side. I also started with a light weight bow that I could control during the shot process. Early on I shot bows that were too heavy and I was too busy trying to pull to anchor that my mechanics suffered. Unfortunately once I ingrained poor form it was difficult to correct. Going to the opposite side I was able to program my shot process and relearn the proper way to shoot a bow......let me rephrase. I learned how to shoot the bow the way I wanted to shoot the bow. Some feel shooting very quickly is what works for them and I in no way want to assume I know the proper way to shoot. Just passing along my thoughts.
The #1 cause of panic was generations of uneducated trad elitist archers too stubborn to learn how to shoot a bow properly! They were content to snap shoot with a touch & go anchor & then passed their horrible knowledge on. One way to shoot a bow & that’s with a Sequence & Proper Back Tension. Compound or Trad it’s the same. Firearm sequence is almost identical to a bow also.
If you joined the traditional ranks back in the 80's there was a lot of bad info out there on shooting the bow properly. That's just my thoughts and some of the challenges I ran into. If we all started with a 35-40 lb bow right out of the gate and solid mechanics it would have been a hell of lot easier. Back in the early 90's everyone shot, rather tried to shoot bows in the 60-70 lb range. That's a tall order and led to a ton of bad habits and frustration. Today there is so much good, positive info out there on how to shoot these bows properly. It's a great time to get into traditional bows! TH-cam and several solid shooters are passing on fantastic advice.
One of the best videos on target panic that I have ever seen.
I may be having this problem with my traditional bow now. I know I have this panic when shooting my compound. I noticed improvement when I backed the poundage off with my compound bow, so I am seriously considering selling my 55 pound Martin, and going down to a 40 or 45 pound recurve. I am struggling to get the recurve to a full anchor point, so I tend to shoot so fast because I can't maintain full draw long enough due to the poundage. Thanks for posting this helpful video.
Sounds So much like you're telling my story at this moment! Struggling with TP for more then a year now, not able to hold at anchor when I want to shoot a target. Soon as I touch my face the arrow is gone! While it's not a problem to hold when there's no arrow knocked or when I don't plan to release or aiming at a brick wall for example. Now since a couple of weeks I'm having some lower back problems and because I still wanted to shoot some arrows, yesterday I decided to shoot my sons bow. It's 30# while my own bow is 45#. And I immediately could feel I was having much more control over my shot, Being able to hold and feel at anchor, decide when I would start my release. So I think I'm going to shoot this one for a while and then switch to my first bow that I still got and is 35#. Meanwhile start working on the mental aspect of dealing with TP and keep shooting the same side (RH). So thanks you very much Tim for this video, I'm going to watch part 2 now! 😉
Excellent video! Traditional archery can be a struggle with many highs and lows. But we keep coming back because we have a deep passion and love for the sport. Your sharing of your personal struggles lets other archers know that they are not alone when problems arise. Sharing your personal journey really adds to the effect of the video. I enjoy the information that you give and look forward to future tips and techniques from you! I am going to promote you and your channel with all of my customers. Thanks again and I hope you have a great day!
I do really appreciate this video. You have touched on some of the problems that I have deal with since I have started shooting traditional archery. At one time I was shooting longbows that was 70 lb at my draw length and it was hard to control but I continue trying to hit my mark.
I have started shooting lower poundage and have found that it has been more productive. I am considering a 45 pound recurve to get better at my form and a good shot process.I have three compound bows and at times have become so frustrated at my recurve shooting that I thought about giving it up completely and just sticking with my compound but I do love the traditional side of archery. Thanks for a great video.
Oh my gosh!! You described my target panic, as well as my solution, to a T!! I have struggled with target panic for the past 10 years shooting traditional (which is the main reason why I still hunt with a compound a good bit) because a friend of mine started me out on a 70 pound recurve! Over the past 10 years I dropped to a 60#, then 38#, then last year someone gave me one of those green fiberglass bows for children. Low and behold, that was the best thing for helping with my target panic! A 20-pound bow! HAHAHA Great video
I need to go lower in weight, I have a bad habit of short drawing. Even if I tell myself to hit my anchor, I will drop that shot about an inch or so short, drive me crazy. Best video on this I've seen.
Thank you Tim,After years of working my way to champion status amongst friends stumping and in my backyard, a witnessed, "easy", hunting license test this weekend slapped me hard....What I can do all day, all year back home turned into total havoc -shot sequence, follow through and other important factors evaporated!Will get back in the saddle, maybe compete some 3D to get my head back straight also under some pressure!Great videos, shoot straightcheers, Thorsten
Very good advice. Thanks for sharing , You were like listening to a friend. Keep the vids coming.
Great!!!
Love your videos. I’m having target panic so bad I’ve debated to stop shooting. I’m lefthanded and come to my anchor just fine but my bow arm freezes above target and can not get it down no matter what I do. I’ve shot traditional for a couple years and I haven’t been able to beat it. Debated going right handed and see what Happens, friend has a 35lb. RH recurve he said he would let me try.
tim , covered tophics very well. You havent missed a beat bud . Mark in Louisiana
Wow!!! I gotta wonder if this wasn't meant for ME personally..... In the late '80s (I think...) I switched from a 70 lb. compound to a 59# Brackenbury Drifter Recurve. Still have the bow. But I figured out, sorta on my own, and after borrowing a lighter draw weight bow, I didn't have the muscles yet to shoot the Brackenbury. Probably STILL don't. Have had to buy a lighter, inexpensive-but-decent longbow to learn form. Have also learned that on some days, I'm better off if I go build arrows, or play my guitar, or whatever, rather than continuing to shoot while tired.
My way of saying "Thanks!" for this video, and "Great Job!"
Very cool... Thanks Tim.
Thanks Tim, very helpful
Can you discuss how learning to shoot a recurve left handed cured your target panic shooting right handed and when you decided to switch back ?Your traditional journey is similar to mine and I am really working hard to get rid of it . Thank you !
Sorry for the long delay. You are basically starting with a clean slate. When I switched sides it was all new and I made sure that I was in complete control of my shot process. The draw, the anchor, the aim and the release. My first traditional bow was too heavy for me. Sure I could draw it and hold it, I was young and strong but I couldn't hold it, aim it and shoot it well. Bad habits began to creep in and I became a mess. Any little break in concentration triggered the shot. I then became so focused on the getting to anchor and shooting that I forgot to aim. The downward spiral began and it becomes extremely difficult to every get back into the proper shot cycle.
By going left handed and shooting an extremely light bow you are completely reprograming how you shoot the bow. Refuse to take short cuts and refuse to let the arrow go until "you" are ready. One of the best ways to do this is with a light bow you can control. Develop some type of unconscious trigger, a clicker, a feather to the nose.....something that will signal the release. This will help you as you improve and slowly increase the weight of your bow. There are plenty of solid instructors out there to help you along. Ask for their help, take lessons, it will be money well spent in the long run and you will enjoy the journey.
Good luck and remember it takes time to shoot these bows well. Don't chase it....it will come with hard work and commitment.
I just started from scratch when I learned to shoot from the opposite side. I also started with a light weight bow that I could control during the shot process. Early on I shot bows that were too heavy and I was too busy trying to pull to anchor that my mechanics suffered. Unfortunately once I ingrained poor form it was difficult to correct. Going to the opposite side I was able to program my shot process and relearn the proper way to shoot a bow......let me rephrase. I learned how to shoot the bow the way I wanted to shoot the bow. Some feel shooting very quickly is what works for them and I in no way want to assume I know the proper way to shoot. Just passing along my thoughts.
What happened to this channel... ?
Great vidoes and then they just stopped?
The #1 cause of panic was generations of uneducated trad elitist archers too stubborn to learn how to shoot a bow properly!
They were content to snap shoot with a touch & go anchor & then passed their horrible knowledge on.
One way to shoot a bow & that’s with a Sequence & Proper Back Tension. Compound or Trad it’s the same.
Firearm sequence is almost identical to a bow also.
If you joined the traditional ranks back in the 80's there was a lot of bad info out there on shooting the bow properly. That's just my thoughts and some of the challenges I ran into. If we all started with a 35-40 lb bow right out of the gate and solid mechanics it would have been a hell of lot easier. Back in the early 90's everyone shot, rather tried to shoot bows in the 60-70 lb range. That's a tall order and led to a ton of bad habits and frustration. Today there is so much good, positive info out there on how to shoot these bows properly. It's a great time to get into traditional bows! TH-cam and several solid shooters are passing on fantastic advice.
I'll agree and plead guilty!