BMW M4 Comp G82 vs Chevy Corvette C8 drag and roll race. Shocking Result.
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- BMW M4 Comp G82 vs Chevy Corvette C8 drag and roll race. Shocking Result.
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This is far from shocking. BMW and Mercedes have never given the REAL horsepower figures for their cars.
Its about the transmission too, not only horsepower
@@smollkitteh1337 Not in this case. This exact comparison was done by Edmunds with similar results. Speculation is this is not a 503hp BMW, more like 600hp.
@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I agree with that. Most of BMW cars are heat soaked before doing their testing, which results in lower hp on dyno. I had a 2015 RC350 F-sport and that thing was alright fast, with 306hp, butttttt.. when I test drove the 2018 N55 Motor M2 with 19,000 miles, holy shit, that thing was definitely not 365hp as advertised lol. Felt more like 420-430hp and 450lb torque. It's really not that bad for $40,000 used. I'm also considering the m2 competition "advertised" 405hp/406ft-lb. It's probably more like 450 or 475hp.
I believe there is speculation that the hp figures are whp...which makes sense. Good stuff Sam!
German auto makers do give their real horsepower numbers, they just do it in the worst possible conditions. So this M4 will make it's advertised 503 horsepower at 15,000 ft and 110 degrees with 90% humidity. What it makes elsewhere is a different story. They do this so you are guaranteed advertised horsepower no matter where you are and what conditions you are in.
I've seen several dynamometer tests on both cars and the results were as follows. C8 430whp - 450whp. The M4 competition's was always between 509whp - 536whp. In short, the difference in power between the two is quite large and the result was obvious from the start, since in addition to being AWD, the BMW has an advantage of more or less 60whp
X3M and M3/4 make 480whp consistent on dyno. Anything showing 500+ is exaggerated
@@lilnicky131 ????
@@laurent36 you don't know shit about cars.
M4 is heavier than the Corvette and has a better transmission. Stop bring up excuses. M4 is faster than this Corvette. That’s it!
@@m.b.6744 lmfao. Try again loser
This was expected. M4 just an amazing machine. Great job BMW
Yep it is
False
@@henzo7087aside ftom the warranty work coming in
@@Duece-_- it clearly is a great machine walked a mid engine car lol
They are so much faster than previous M cars
It's incredible
“Yea yea straight forward” proceeds to hit rev limiter 😂
That BMW does not have enough of a power and tq advantage to negate its roughly 250lb weight disadvantage. Point is, its definitely underrated. Its probably around 503whp not crank
They say 10hp is roughly 100pds or so. A 50whp gap is plenty of a gap to shrugg off 250 pds on a roll. Bmw's numbers are whp and not crank.
. It has more than enough power to compensate for 250lbs considering that 250lbs is a decimal if were talking hp/weight ratio. It makes 0 difference in acceleration.
The weight varies depending on the configuration and packages. An M3/M4 with carbon bucket seats and carbon ceramic brakes can be considerably lighter than a fully loaded car without those. Also, it matters where the weight is distributed. C8 wheels are bigger and a few pounds heavier.
N/A vs boosted
At my local tuner shop, I sat there and watched the guys dyno a g82 pre-tune. It was making 536hp and 473lb tq on 93 😂😂
Bmw is smart for underrating their cars
Strange because on my dyno show me 517hp. I think you talking shitttttt 😢
, so I go to the fish market, buy and pay for 2 fish 🐟, when I arrive home, find 3 fish on the bag???? In this case, thank you bmw for giving me more for the money
still not same as 700 hp 💀
Wow what a great race! Interesting to see how two very different cars (but similar on paper) perform.
Man those beemers can pull… (they make more hp for sure) the way BMW tune those engines is amazing
As we know the German monsters BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi/VW never give the real numbers when it comes to horsepower and torque. Plus the transmissions are usually dual clutch with the capability to tune it to shift even quicker. Doesn’t really surprise me here. I knew this would happen
M4 is torq converted corvette is DCT fyi
You knew they were'nt going to use the C8 launch control?!
@@volkswagenhawk7094better gearing than the vette at the end of the day
That M4 gets Down! Impressive launch with the X-Drive! Great way to start my Saturday with a new drag race from Sam Da Man!
Wouldn’t be surprised if the beemer put 503 whp stock
They're notoriously underrated from the factory for sure.
@@WineHouse33bmw had the car in the worst possible condition when they did the dyno runs 😂
They definitely lied about how much HP it has wow has at least 60 to 100 more HP than they say it has easily…
Great cars! I am wondering how good are the new Corevette E-ray AWD systems compared to the BMW Xdrive.
Nice comparison! It didn´t shock me at all, I expected that outcome! C8´s lower mass centre is giving it a real advantage from a both RW start. Roll race M4 walks away and M4 in Xdrive mode is not comparable at all. Despite the M4 might have more power than factory claimed but more weight than the C8, it cannot keep up in the roll... Guess at least the sound competition will be pro C8
In awd sport mode, it’s faster than the c8 in all aspects. RWD mode does not put the same power/torque down. If you want to compare RWD platforms you compare the standard comp.
I think the E Ray would be a better contender than a regular C8
U realize the e ray is in another price range.
That launch with the Xdrive mode is insane!!!
Gave me Tesla Model S Plaid vibes!!
I mean it's only 0.5 seconds apart from the Plaid's 0-60 time, and the M3 actually does the 60ft and 0-30 better than the Plaid. A tuned M3 is faster than a Plaid. They are already in the 8s with proper setups
@@DMCarReviews and runs 9.4 with basic bolt ons on e85/gas mix full weight stock tires.
@@Bimmer_Bill Correct!
If seen one with a simple turbo upgrade run a 8.9 quarter mile. Not even a full build
@@user-my4xu4gf1z yup! Just did it! Stock turbos, stock engine, full weight with comfort seats. The s58 and b58 platforms are phenomenal!
Sam would you take a new M4 comp or new GT500?
I call bs. That Corvette was shifting way too early in all the runs except for last. You could even hear the guy clicking the paddle shifters. And then the Corvette beats the BMW at the end? You guys are so gullible. 😂🤣
This is how car drag comparison must be done. Probably best drag channel on youtube.
M4 is really good.
That was a fun matchup, but not difficult to predict a winner on.
Great video. What was the time for the XDrive mode? Was it below 11 seconds for the 1/4 mile?
I would imagine under 11 - 2.2 0-60
Mine pulls low 11.2s all day long
Corvette C8 E-Ray is the one to get. Please try to get one on the channel whenever they start getting delivered.
Great video Sam, not so shocking! 🤣
Not surprised by result. When Bmw advertise horsepower it is wheel horsepower. G80x dyno at about 480-500 wheel horsepower so crank is like 530-550.
As a 2021 C8 owner, I can appreciate this comparison. Both are great performance cars and respect should be mutual across the board.
Sam, funny how the comments are mostly people saying unfair race. But me, for the first time in a while.. thought it was a great race. Well done. That guy knows how to drive his vette, and you did well in the bmw.
BMW power numbers are notoriously underrated. Shocking only if you've never owned a BMW M series
Actually, they are usually dead on the money on a proper dyno, not a tuner dyno which produces massively inflated figures. It's a testament to BMW engineering, the cars are always on the money in terms of power. This is what you want, precision engineering, not shonky engineering with cars making different power. The only manufacturer that seriously underrates their cars is McLaren who always quotes worst numbers, they also like BMW though reliably produce the same numbers from car to car.
Nice attempt, but throughly incorrect@@LeeXRV
@@WineHouse33 - Nice attempt? Odd reply.
So what was the time of the m4 in Xdrive??
What was the time on the BMW Xdrive mode 0-60?
Not a shocking result to me more horsepower and torque usually win 🤙🤙🤙
At higher altitudes, force induction engines will have a big advantage.
What was the first drag race time with the BMW using its x-drive?
Them BMWs are something else! Next, we should see a BMW M5CS vs a Corvette Z06! Would love to see that 🔥💯
Z06 would win!!! It's just so much lighter and similar power
@emekaiheanacho274 idk it might be closer than you think. The m4 walked from this corvette and technically on paper the corvette should've won. Since its near identical power plus being lighter. Even in RWD mode the M4 was hawking it down the runway!
@@jefryherrera3242 exactly
@@emekaiheanacho274lol don’t be sure about that. Most 0-60 tests have them neck and neck and we know BMW are the ones that don’t overeaggerate HP. Example most dynos have the 660 hp zl1 and c7 zo6 only 70 wheel hp difference when on paper it’s supposed to be 160 crank hp more than the m3/m4 comp.
@@Bimmer_Bill Interesting 👍👍
German engineering at it's finest! Heavier with only a slight HP advantage! Turbos + Xdrive is a beast!
I owned a C8 Stingray and a BMW with the B58 engine, I will tell you BMW sand bag the true HP on all their engines. If BMW says 503HP, that is at the wheel not at the crank. I have first hand experience with the S58 engine, and I tell you is a beast.
@@pablosantana6071 Yes sir I agree, they definitely understate the HP. I have a 2016 M4 competition and it feels great with the stock “444 hp”!
FYI those M4 Comps make 520-530 hp to the wheels whereas the C8 makes 440 hp to the wheels. So the hp advantage is not slight. its big. So the BMW claim of 503 hp is 1.one wheel horse power and 2. it is understimiated for business puposes.
Yea ai suppose German engineering truly shines when compared to *base model* American engineering. Lol. Price and trim level should be considered when you’re comparing the performance of someone’s top model (M4C) amongst their lineup to someone’s base model (Stingray).
I agree! But you sound salty AF and a real homer! Cool story though! 😆 @@G-Rated
Great video! Could you make the text of the specs of the car bigger? And show both at the same time, with both sets of data following the same syntax? Would be much easier to compare that way
Yes I was about to ask the same!
That's a great visual for the performance added to my car by installing a K&N filter for that extra 8HP boost. I knew it felt faster
Bro can't even shift a dct without slamming the rev limiter, can't launch a car with launch control. I'm speechless
My only problem with new BMW's is that you have to look at them...
😂
I feel like you get used to the new grille design after seeing it a few times. It's actually quite an interesting design
The beaver teeth grew on me.. especially the M3..
@@johngabucci Ugly chicks need love to, there's nothing wrong with that.
Not surprised today i just raced a c8 today from a 40 roll it was about 45 degrees today and from a 40 my Ats-v was making a little more boost than usual it was neck and neck all the way till like 150 then we ran into traffic!From a dig he would have had me !
Great stuff!
I sold BMW’s for 8 years, two things are true 1: BMW understates power 2: the transmissions are superb. On a side note, the AWD system shuts down and reverts all power to the rear at 100-110 mph.
Two different torque curves. The turbo in the bmw builds it's full torque like 2k rpms lower and quicker than the vette so I knew what the outcome would be. Power number alone aren't what would have made it equal, the way the power is built and delivered is what makes or breaks. Moral: N/A vs N/A same power ratings or Turbo vs Turbo same power ratings will be a closer race.
Entry level Corvette w/ RWD vs halo M4 Competition with AWD. Got it. Now let's see them around the track.
How can the C8 be faster in the 1/4mi when the M4 was way ahead of it when using xdrive?
Great racing.
Wow In Denver c8 barely run 13.5 it’s crazy how much altitude affects it!
That is horrible considering a Kia Stinger in Ontario Canada can do 10s on stock turbos.
@@FordPickUPRed yep the hellcats hear barely run 12.0 and that’s on drag radials
@@FordPickUPRed in vancouver at sea level i see tuned g80 m3s and m4s run 9.8 to 10.3 all day its insane used to live in the rockies only hypercars would run mid 10 s
Nice. Been wanting to see this race on TH-cam. I have an M3 Comp xdrive, but haven’t found a new corvette to race yet
Great race
The fastest model of one car versus the slowest of another car really shows the nasty over all.
That isn’t even the fastest M4- that would be the M4 CSL… it would have been worse 😂
@@show2imec8 Eray would dog the shit out of ANY bmw production car. Same with the c8 z06. Same with the c7 z06, same with the c7 zr1 lol. Cut the crap. 2023 M4 CSL is so slow! That it did 7:15 at the Nurburgring. When the corvette did 7:13 back in 2015 with the c7 z06 with a manual transmission by a car magazine journalist. C8 z06 ran 10.2 bone stock by Will farmer, go look it up. C8 ERAY isn’t out yet but savagegeese recorded the c8 Eray doing 2.2 0-60. Hagerty recorded a c8 Eray doing a 10.4 on non prepped surface. C7 z06 ran 10.4 by will farmer 100% stock. C7 zr1 ran high 9’s again by Will farmer (AKA professional drag racer) and again STOCK. Cut the crap.
Can we do the same race with atop shelf Dodge product?😀
A 2 door purpose built mid engine sports car vs a 2 door 4 seat sports luxury sedan and both with ~500 hp. Better bring the z06 next time boys. 😂😂😂
Y’all really feel better after this race huh? 😂
@@G-Rated yup, taking my whole family on trips while smoking c8’s at the same time… it’s pretty nice. Oh and the m4 comp xDrive beats the c8 on the reference road course (Nurburgring) too (7’30” vs 7’28.5”). Better bring the ZO6.
@@Bimmer_Bill Yea, we’re going to bring the ZO6 and maybe the E-Ray too just to humble you down, because everyone here knows whenever *you* say “C8” you’re actually talking about a base model Stingray ($65k sports-car) - which is the only Corvette that will lose a race to a $90k BMW. 😂
@@G-Rated lol you’re trying to compare a purpose built sports car to a family car? 🤣🤣🤣🤣wrong, 🥲🥲🥲🤣btw the m4 CSL is even faster than the track specific Camaro zl1 1le despite having 120 less horsepower. The mighty Eray runs the same 1/4 mile as a bmw m5 cs (10.6), the z06 is actually slower yet you say any bmw doesn’t match up? The m5cs is a four door family car too! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
GM cars at a joke compared to European cars on the track (name your vette and I show you a faster production euro car). Stick with corvette price point, you peasant
No you need a real garage is GTR & Z nissan is Real daddy!
The AWD mode helps alot, as well.
Better transmission also helps
What is the 1/4 mile time for M4 in AWD?
In the 8s. Stock in the 10s
Stock is usually 11.0 seconds@@AlexFlores-cr6hb
@@AlexFlores-cr6hb what do you mean 8 seconds than proceed to say stock in the 10s boss?
Putting an AWD vehicle in RWD mode isn't exactly fair either, as all the additional weight from the AWD-drivetrain still contributes to the curb weight.
If you put the M4 in RWD-mode, it would only be fair to add at least 200 lbs (eg. a passenger) to the C8.
yup
Well done for n/a engine, good job Vette!
Disappointed with C8 I expected more
It’s the base model sting ray, not a z06. Idk what you were expecting 😂
@@nhlanhlamagagula7467.
@@MikeyG003 was expecting it to outperform the m3...M3 is family saloon with back seats while c8 is a sport car..
@@nhlanhlamagagula7467you must not be familiar with that an m3 can do then lmao. Results as expected for anyone that knows cars
Did NOT expect that 😮😮😮
I outran a friends 2022 M4 Competition in my modified 2006 Lotus Elise.
It strange racing because I am in an archaic 6 speed manual against a all wheel drive modern vehicle.
I did not blow the BMW away, but from a stand still my old school traction control would bog down terrible and I real the M4 in.
I was really surprised how fast the M4 was, very impressive, but there was no real driving. The M4 just stop and gone. Me bouncing off the rev limiter a few times.
Just fyi my Lotus runs mid 10’s, but a shift mistake the BMW was gone.
BMW M4 manual is all you need. Forget the slushbox.
I expected that outcome as someone noted the RW dyno numbers., but it didn’t sound like you were using launch control on the C8. In general your BMW driver seemed more aggressive.
5:38 corvette clearly engaging in launch control.
Yeah!!! The M4 has 503hp.....to the wheels!!!
Who cares? Lol
@@user-yi9hz3or2t BMW cares!!!
Could you have made the spec data any smaller?
Not surprising to me. The Corvette is a beast up until 60, but falls on its face after that.
Definatley not using launch conttol in C8, aside ftom very last race, heat revs building, not already built, a re-run is needed
"Average Joe's " love to hate on BMW 🤣
Define "average joe"? are you trying to say poor?
Great review Sam...but please provide stats we been begging for stats on all races...still not today
We don’t have the machines for roll races
@@SamCarLegion11.3 corvett 1\4 mile 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣.. 12.3 maybe.???
People really saying do the zo6 likes its not a 160k car with dealership markups 😂😂 these 2 are the same relative price. The m4 gives u the bang for the buck and has wayyy better luxury and tech. The fact even in RWD mode it was beating the C8 in this vid 😂😂
GM finally put a somewhat nice interior on a corvette but forgot to improve performance.
BMW is just a machine and always was. Stock LCI M5 Competition is faster on AutoGlory channel than tuned C6 ZO6
What did the M4 run in X-drive mode? Why only show RWD mode?
I am sure you can figure that out 🤣🤣🤣 🚀
Sam…note the go: mark. Say it or state it on the screen when u guys kick down
Good race, m4 really takes a hit in RWD
As expected with AWD weight would be fair for RWD not Xdrive M3 has same power but less weight, C8 beaten in all races
C8 has advantage of mid engine. More weight on rear tires and comes with wider tires than m4 stock. Also NA motor with lower torque and less torque at lower rpm, so bmw rear tires gets blasted with way more torque and at low rpms, further giving it a hard time putting power down.
@@MikeyG003BMW does not execute traction control better than Chevrolet either. They will never put their power down as well as any high performance *gm* vehicle because their engineering does not exceed that of the Corvette racing team or Cadillac V-series performance division.
@@G-Ratedlol how dumb do you sound? The front engine M4 beats the mid engine stingray on Nurburgring, so much for your unstoppable corvette racing team. Oh yeah and so does the m4csl against the ZL1 1le on Nurburgring with less cylinders and power. Bmw engineering>
Because using RWD will disable launch control and limit the power. BMW officially said many times that RWD mode is designated for drifting only and not drag racing, but everyone is now doing a drag race with the RWD mode.
Without even fully watching this yet I’m sure Sam was in the losing car 😂
Why didn’t you post your xdrive quarter mile run?
Machine didn’t record
One time i think it was 2.4 for xdrive
What was the 1/4 mile time of the m4 on x drive mode?
You can imagine lol
Another great test. However, I heard both cars reving up before taking off in the XDrive drag race. But I only heard the C8 reving up on the RWD drag race. That make a significant difference.
This is an assault on the Corvette.
Doesnt sound like the c8 was being pushed. My c8 sounded more thunderous when pushed hard. Also, was the c8 a couple or convert? Launch of c8 was not good at all. Need to see the tach and speedo too. Helps remove bias....
Dude ur so deep in denial I feel sorry for u 🙏 m4 xdrive obliterated ur lil poor mans ferrari
Emunds did this exact race and it was so close how was it so different?
That one wasn't the XDrive m4 it was RWD..
No need to do the M4 in RWD mode... no one actually races in that mode and it's not the same as a RWD M3/M4 racing.
The Corvette did better than I thought though
Not shocked at all. The Corvette winning would’ve been shocking.
I have been saying it since the beginning, the base C8 should have came with 520-530hp stock out the door. The 495hp is a joke in modern cars and the small block definitely can crank out that type of power with no problem.
But now it needs to be done with the 2023 C8. Unstoppable
The 2023 c8 would have the same exact result. It's not faster then a xdrive m3 or m4. Get real dude. Only the 160k zo6 is faster
is this a non z51? C8s arent slow but theyre not the best for roll racing.
Beating a base model vette....WHOOWHOOOO!!🙄🙄😂😂😂
I own a Supra, at least for a short while longer. It will be for sale soon, but as far as performance, it moves. It has HKS exhaust, but even before that, I thought it has to be making more than 400HP!
Funny you say that. I have a 2022 z4 M40i, same platform, and I swear it’s over 400 for sure, more like 425. Very fast car. Just as fast as my C6.
Power to weight ratio shows that both cars are equal even after dynamometer test.
Them turbos suckin through them turtle nostrils show ya what it do up top, nice Vette but i would take the last year model vette with a manual an normal a v8 for the more aggressive sound
Next a Z06 or ERay?
The BMW coolaid drinker probably chipped his car..
Car and driver had the same results
M4 any day of the week!
Lmfao Corvette being mid engine, lighter and better aero just to get dumped on by a heavier BMW
C8 Corvette are duds
Everyone says they’re not surprised by the results but they forget some people still think BMWs are slow hair dresser cars
S58 motor is just ridiculous 🔥
Them BMWs underrated
Sam, we can barely see the specs now after you made the change. Good race.... surprised at the outcome for sure.
So the guy in the C8 can't drive? The mfg 1/4 mile times for them are the same.
People are moaning about ‘horsepower’ in the BMW. They should be talking bout it makes a crap load of torque more than the C8 through the rev range (as advertised by BMW…)
M3 and M4 makes probably 600 motor easy , there so underrated. Has anyone ever dyno them in stock to see ? Standard c8 no chance.
Didn’t realize the new corvettes were that heavy
Wow, how good the bmw did against vet in x drive I would like to see the bmw against the c8 z06🤷♂️😁
bmw has more poise and just better engineered, handles way better i bet too