Honda E-Cubs - How many could we convert to electric? | Fully Charged BIKES
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Elliot visits SHANGHAI CUSTOMS who have taken one of the biggest selling bikes in the world and electrified it. There are over 100 million Honda Cub bikes in existence, and now it's possible to convert these to electric in a day!
The Honda e-Cub is a cross between a scooter and a motorbike and its pretty awesome to drive. In cities with a high density of two-wheeled transport, could EV conversion by the way forward in accelerating transition? What's clear is that converting the Honda Cub has given this bike a new lease of life but begs the question why Honda aren't doing this themselves.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:47 1958
1:08 Easy rider
1:21 Shanghai Customs
1:42 Buzzing bikes
1:57 DIY conversion
2:04 Stripped back
2:28 Comfy seat
2:58 Watch out!
3:18 Really cool
3:26 100 million!
4:07 Nice & chunky
4:24 Boost button
4:39 Done in a day
5:17 Time for a facelift
5:34 Cost?
6:01 Range & speed
6:39 Going global
7:40 What's going on Honda?
8:10 Support & join
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Elliot visits SHANGHAI CUSTOMS who have taken one of the biggest selling bikes in the world and electrified it. There are over 100 million Honda Cub bikes in existence, and now it's possible to convert these to electric in a day!
The Honda e-Cub is a cross between a scooter and a motorbike and its pretty awesome to drive. In cities with a high density of two-wheeled transport, could EV conversion by the way forward in accelerating transition? What's clear is that converting the Honda Cub has given this bike a new lease of life but begs the question why Honda aren't doing this themselves.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:47 1958
1:08 Easy rider
1:21 Shanghai Customs
1:42 Buzzing bikes
1:57 DIY conversion
2:04 Stripped back
2:28 Comfy seat
2:58 Watch out!
3:18 Really cool
3:26 100 million!
4:07 Nice & chunky
4:24 Boost button
4:39 Done in a day
5:17 Time for a facelift
5:34 Cost?
6:01 Range & speed
6:39 Going global
7:40 What's going on Honda?
8:10 Support & join
I had thought he would do such conversion to show the world how it works instead of talking about it and not showing 1 single step of the conversion process. 15 hours cut down to 20 minutes can not be that complicated considering all the car channels showing their update and upgrades or even conversions like Rich rebuilds a Tesla to a V8 with a lot of fun.
That way it is more or less disappointing to see a more or less e-bike not streetlegal in the UK and Europe and even in US I guess.
Like the idea and the look. But it's far to expensive to pay more for just the parts. Than it cost for a Chinese completely built knock off, like the CSC New Monterey Electric Scooter.
Even if they do have different specs, but since most ppl do not finish projects like this and it costs a fortune to outsource. The CSC New Monterey Electric Scooter makes far more sense for most ppl IMHO.
@@typxxilps Like it or not e-bikes have limits for a reason. If you want to go above those limits just get a e-motorcycle and pay the extra cost.
BTW the USA limits seem pretty reasonable. With top speed of 28MPH for class 3 e-bikes in some states. Good luck getting that across the pond.
No one was talking about conspiracies, so there is no need for a BitChute channel...
1:57 - 'Now, if you've been to a city like *Vietnam* '...?!
In my day, E-Honda was a fast slapping sumo streetfighter.
That is a joke Honda shall capitalized on.
Whatever you say grandpa
Gold. LMAO
I have a mobylette motobecane 1977,
Tire size is 17 inch size tires.. is that motor hub kit compatible with my moped?
@@gerardogama120769 can't see why not, as long as the hub motor will fit in the swingarm
"A city like Vietnam" lol
Well many think Africa is a continent... sooooo 🤔
ok my pedantic trolling friend, who just fixates on trivia :)
@@nc3826 yeah who gives a shit about tiny things like details :)
It's trivia, since it's not it's not germane to the story...
Also you're all trolling morons, without a life. For thinking he did not know what Vietnam is (it's called "a slip of the tongue") ...
Good luck getting a IQ high enough to mention something relevant someday.... FLMAO....
@@nc3826 I didn't realise that finding something funny was moronic trolling. But as you seem to have nominated yourself Chief Policeman Of The Comments I'll take you at your word.
Personally I would want to keep the leg guards and not have the feeble looking foot pegs. Where do you put your Shopping or your Fish Supper on your way back from the Chippie?
...a backpack? That's what I use on my e-bike.
What’s a Chippie? Ha
@@naps3386 it's a takeaway meal from a chip shop (serves chipped potatoes and fish/pies etc...)
@@loums52 But why remove a perfectly serviceable rear rack ?
... hook a bungie around the base of the mirrors. Loosen the left mirror bolt and leave slightly loose so it will swivel back pointing toward you IF you provide just the right angle of torque so the bungie let's it. Hook the plastic shopping bag full of groceries over the right mirror then over the left mirror and let it hang down into the step well. Swivel the left mirror back into position.. no need to tighten with wrench because the bungie pulling on it.
A whole video about a conversion kit but you never showed us the conversion kit to begin with, i.e., the individual components to give us an idea of what’s involved. 😉
@Åke Åkesson There's no bottom bracket on these motorbikes for those kits to attach to, so nope.
I really like the roadgoing Elliott 😊 Keep it up FullyCharged⚡
Finally an electric motorcycle review, more please we are not all car drivers!
I second that!
1/2 my electric vehicles have 2 wheels
Yeah, i like lightweight personal transport more than a cars, i feel more safe driving a bicycle than a wide car
Elliot what a wonderful video, thank you (and the whole team) It's so great to have such a talented presenter in china. :)
Kia Ora from Aotearoa, $2,800 USD per kit shipped anywhere on planet earth? Kool review. ;-) Great to see this kind of innovation to utilise existing bike frames and save them from being wasted in rubbish tips/landfills. Awesome stuff Shanghai customs! Kia Kaha from Aotearoa. ;-)
I remember hearing about the Shanghai custom ecub a number of years ago. Good to see they are still going and still growing. I am a big fan of custom Cubs in general, there are really creative people doing creative things with those bikes. Shanghai customs also had an electric tracker bike they were developing but I don’t know if anything happened to that! You say it’s great to convert these old bikes to electric, which is true as a project, but you also say that so many of the old components are replaced. It’s basically only the iconic frame that is kept. Looking forward to more videos from China! South China you say?
The production quality. STUNNING!
Elliot, absolutely fantastic vid!!! Why don't you do one of these conversions and make a vid. Your challenge from Seattle. Thanks.
Great review. Impressive individuals in respect of their imagination, spotting the market and hard work in getting it moving. I wish them continued success
Well done Shanghai Customs! Great idea and the big manufacturers are really dragging their heels. If I could find a good donor I would order a kit! Best of luck to you!
honda Cubs are crazy efficient regardless. they run on literally anything i used to own one and if i fed the carb with vodka it would start.
they don't need to be electrified necessarily as this would be more damaging regarding production of batteries.
You can also buy what is basically a brand new Honda Electric Cub today if you don't want to wait on Honda's own model. It's called the CSC Monterey and can be bought for around $2500 complete.
I would say projects like this are great, repurposing old vehicles and bikes and making them into something fit for the modern electric era. The problem is the costs, as in this very example where the kit costs $2500, and will likely also be charged import and customs duties and VAT if imported into the EU. Add in the cost of buying and restoring an old Cub frame if you don't have one and it gets expensive very quickly. Even more so if you have to pay someone to do the restoration and fitting of the kit, you probably looking at somewhere around the equivalent of $5000 in the EU in total, over $1000 more than the projected cost of Honda's own EV Cub and double the price of the aforementioned CSC Monterey. It's the same thing with many ebike kits such as the Swytch, where it can sometimes be cheaper to just buy a new complete e-bike than convert an older bike.
I’d sure buy one of these pre-built, if they were available in my area.
Thanks for the excellent review, and for the inspiration.
Simple and elegant. I like to more brands being converted. This is the future. I like see it with more cars too.
I have an '87 c90 the idea was always to keep it forever and this just helps that dream. My only issues is the range but as I'd keep it stock and not streetcub it I think a few more cells where the engine was could work out.
Disc on the back is smarter than on the front for these purist in me would want to move that N switch back to heel toe of the original. 40mph is about the top speed of a 90 standard gearing but unlike the ice one I would think this could maintain that up a hill.
Honda currently have a patent for an e-cub based on the new model but it would be awesome to have a retrofit department.
Really interesting and well presented Elliot - thanks.
(Don’t get me wrong as I’m a massive “all electric” fan....) but I’m not necessarily convinced that someone who maybe bought an old hand me down cub off an older brother or sibling for say, fifty dollars to use to go to work on is then going to decide to spend 2500 dollars to go electric! Also I think some of those brand new Chinese electric bikes are actually cheaper than that?
I spent $6,000 on a Stromer electric bicycle.
Converting a 1958 moped with 1958 brakes, isn't particularly brilliant.
U have point there mate. I love the honda bike but with that money i can easily get a NIU electric bike.
@@akyhne 3:50 2021 disc brake on the rear hub motor.
@@edwyncorteen1527 The front brake is way more important, than the rear brake.
If you had ever ride a bike, moped or motorcycle for any period of time, you'd know.
Also, many cars still comes with disk brakes on the front, but drum brakes on the rear.
This is because adding disk brakes to the rear, helps little in improving the overall braking capacity.
I love it! I need to get my hands on a bike and this kit.
That's awesome, and it's great to have reasonable conversion solutions appearing. My only question: With so much of the original being replaced, how much beyond the frame itself is actually kept?
Thank you Full Charged for your China report. A cheap vehicle is normally the first vehicle for most people once they pass their test. Mine was a £500 3 month MOT rust box. Now I live in Peru and drive full electric paid for with the money I saved from not using diesel busses.
Yes yes YES. I have 3 old modified stripped back Cubs and and would love a modified EV Cub like this here in NZ
I wonder what it would how much, including shipping it here, would cost though.
Love the bikes added to the channel! Thank you!
They have not got rid of the gas (petrol) tank as it was not in the ‘traditional’ place ie between the riders knee’s. The petrol tank on a Cub as always been underneath the seat, exactly where the battery is now located. I think they should have kept to the original style of the Cub and retained the plastic leg shields. It is surprising as to exactly how much rain these things keep off you. I have an immaculate 2003 Honda C90 sat in my garage with only 1500 miles on the odometer. These bikes are increasing in value each year.
@michael johnson Would you convert your C90 to Electric? Why or why not?
I like the street camouflage scheme too!
Honda has a prototypes electric cub hopefully they will come out soon.
the prototype was a long time ago.. so good luck finding one to buy....
@@nc3826 2019? When the new supercub came out
Big oil company(s) in most countries will pretend they support electrification (alternative energy etc), but they will just do that, only to maintain statust quo and good PR. That's what holding those big motorcycle company like Honda to start mass product these e-motorcycle.
We need conversion kits for newer Honda / Toyota bikes that dominate SE Asia. - I love Asia but bike pollution is killer. - kits need to be cheaper to convince locals, since a new Honda in Bali or Cambodia is not expensive.
Missed opportunity - convert the petrol tank into a cubbie for storage.
always great to see elliot
This looks amazing and I reckon the price is very reasonable to restore a classic like the eCub. You can pay 3 times that for an overpriced eBike that has no soul at all. Spot on I reckon. Nice work boys.
7:32 reasonable price lol lol 2800 USD
RIP off really. For collectors only. That model shown is a classic. Hasn't been made for decades.
@@mostlymessingabout that level of retro fits always expensive. And setting this price point is for a ninche hard core cub owner. So they expect very low volume sale.
And you can buy a new electric bike there for going around the city for a hundred quid or so
You can buy an electric car for not much more than that in China!
You don't get a lot of ebike for $2800. Also your average e-scooter is more likely to be lower quality than this cool kit.
This is so much better than the mostly charged channel.
I REALLY like this idea. Personally I would got full DIY and buy the parts and assemble a custom bike, maybe weld the frame even, but this is a awesome easy way to get a decent city e-scooter.
This is a brilliant idea. I'm looking for someone to do the same with the most common dirtbikes. crf250r and yz250f.
Great idea! I think the rear mudguard could be longer, it would stop the rain spinning off the rear whell onto your back!
Another very interesting episode. Thanks, Elliot.
Great video Elliot and such a sensible approach.
Elliot just 1 thing....You ride a motorcycle not drive it. I like the work of Shanghai customs. Well done.
Yep! Hit the nail on the head, I want one, well done
I was expecting it to still look like 2:12. Much more practical with a bit of weather protection.
Retrospective Scooters in London do electric kits for classic Lambrettas and Vespas. Swops in and out so you can put the original engine back without any devalue of a classic scooter if you sell it. Think they need to be looked at by Fully Charged
Cool. I converted a Cub in 1970 into a (gas) dirt bike, fun to drive through the farm woods and creeks. This E-cub is a very cool prototype. But a production E-cub conversion would be cooler, with city smooth tires, and quick conversion process. My BaFang ebike conversion was sold as a 6 hour conversion, it took me a week, I imagine this would take 2 weeks to convert, if all the odd parts were available. Nice story.
Very cool idea and one that looks like it's time has some.... now if we can find some policy frameworks to encourage a higher rate of conversion.
Hopefully these same fellows will do conversion kits for other Honda small bikes. Trail 90 conversion ... Or maybe a bigger one? Anything with a pressed frame (lightness) might be cool.
Do they offer a "universal kit" as in motor and swing arm with controls?
Nice work 👏👏👏
great video,I would buy one ,but in Canada this is a motorcycle and needs license ,tax, and insurance,It would need to cost less than Honda Grom,about 3500bucks Great work for Shanghai Customs,hopes for a bright future..
YES! We have enough vehicles, producing millions of new ones (including EVs) is terrible for the environment - electrify what we have and make it easy and cheap - job done!
Cut straight to ebay looking for cubs to convert. Wonder if you could still Mot it with that big a change. Great vid guys, thanks.
You've just got to notify the DVLA that it's been converted to electric. The bike already has a VIN and no modifications have been made to the frame.
@@th3d3wd3r that does make it tempting.
Nice review, thank you! 👌
Yay, more electric motorcycle content!
Please, cover RGNT Motorcycles next!
I'm contemplating one if these Honda C50 e-bike conversions. Will be sufficient to commute to work
Wow Shanghai is beautiful
Very nice video, and I love the idea of one of these conversions in an otherwise rusty and crusty Cub. But, I must say... all those show notes, and not one link to Shanghai Customs? For shame.
The Shanghai Customs Logo looks a lot like the Fully Charged Logo...
Great idea and the Guys have nailed it good luck to them
Ok now put the splash guard back on. Make the tank a storage location and it's a good one
Nailed the intro this time. :)
At 2:46 shows a Sabvoton speed controller. Its a good controller but they just added their logo to the firmware most likely.
Nice review Elliot.
I'd hope with a new product, though, Honda would give it 100km or 150km range. My commute is 25km one way, and with 50km being probably the maximum it will ever do, I'd be required to charge it after each way, and I'd rather do that just once per day or maybe even only twice a week... But I agree, the concept is great, and I think it's very important to be able to take the battery out and charge it on a normal outlet - for all of us who live in apartments without being able to "just use your garage".
Like the idea and the look. But it's far to expensive to pay more for just the parts. Than it cost for a Chinese completely built knock off, like the CSC New Monterey Electric Scooter.
Even if they do have different specs, but since most ppl do not finish projects like this and it costs a fortune to outsource. The CSC New Monterey Electric Scooter makes far more sense for most ppl IMHO.
I think the monterey's parent company is zongshen and they have been making scooters for a LONG time in china, its a model i looked at but no plans for a EU/UK launch ( atm)
Absolutely love it. Was waiting to disappointed by the price... and I was. To be fair, it's boutique pricing, they don't have the economies of scale. Pity they can't be awarded govt. funding to convert tens of thousands of these. All said though, still extremely cool.
A decent sized battery can run you a thousand alone if you build it your self...
Hi, great review. Please advise how much for the whole bike if you don’t have a frame. Australian market. The price for the kit is in US dollars? Many thanks.
I have two Honda Rucks scooters. The Ruckus would be a great platform for a project like this.
E-Ruckus
Great video thanks
The reason the Cub was so popular was because it was Practical Transport.
This 'Fashion Accessory' version has taken that practicality and removed almost every trace of it.
Yes, there is a Market for this sort of thing, but surely there is also a far larger Market for an EV'd 'Original' version with the leg guards, a rack on the back for your Shopping - and additional Batteries, to provide extra range for those of us 'Cursed' with journeys longer than to our local 'Artisan' Coffee Shop ... ?
Beautiful Video really interesting
Nice, something in my price bracket and skills
Great video!! Love it! 🙂
The price is probably a lot compared to that of the bike but probably not when compared to the value of what you end up with once you are finished. You are going to want to keep the fairing in most countries though.
I would like to see a video of the complete conversion from normal to stripped to rebuild. If you can.
Very good initiative.. I suggest you should build a kit for Indian Hero Honda Splendor.. there are millions of these on the road.. and many other similar structure bikes... Indian government is giving a big push for EV and such kits would definitely be welcomed.. this would help replace gas burners to clean driving.. awaiting your views and thoughts..
Please invite Tony Seba from Rethinx !!!!
Yes! Knows his stuff, good alliance.
Couldn't they find two the same tires?
I really like the possibilities here. For me the range is a bit limiting but it sounds like the electric equivalent of a 50cc scooter. I would be more interested in a conversion kit for bigger bikes.
damn, i wish i still had my 79 c90 cub, would have converted it asap
Really cool bike. Do you not require licence plates/registration in the UK?
Good idea, and I agree that manufacturers may be missing a trick here. And what about the hordes of well-made combustion engine cars that, as things stand, will be scrapped years before their time? Is there any sign that car manufacturers will start retro-fitting existing vehicles with all-electric innards? It would be good for everyone I would have thought, not to mention the environment. Any chance of a future episode on this subject?
I converted An Early 2000's Downhill mountain bike to electric and its absolutely as good or better than anything I could have bought. All told it cost $2000 Canadian and thats with 2 batteries. The plentiful 750W Bafang motors have all the power you would want on a bicycle and are easy to install.
Great idea. I wish them well.
I’m just wondering if $2k price point is doable for most people.
BRILLIANT!!
Outstanding
Good job on the video however the product is very expensive for what it is - for that price i'd expect the entire bike and not just part of it!
Thanks to you, Honda finally came out with sundiro honda so7.
What a great innovation. Hats off to these guys. Shame on Honda and shame on other motorbike manufacturers.
This would be so much better with a befang ultra mid drive and a gates belt driven 5 speed gear hub. Just dont fit the peddles. I would also keep the leg shields, they go faster with them. The direct drive hub is such a cop out.
Maybe a dumb question, but is it possible to have a pedal assembly & sprocket that'll work with the swingarm?