2020 Honda Africa Twin vs. Triumph Tiger 900
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Two of the best adventure bikes on the market: the Honda CRF 11000L Africa Twin and the Triumph Tiger 900 in the Rally Pro version. Both of them new for 2020, with lots of updates: bigger and more powerful engine, more electronics, better handling. It’s one of the most anticipated reviews of the year, so we pot the dual sport tires on and hit the road to find out which one is the best. The Africa Twin or the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro.
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God Bless you mate Cristian, R.I.P
What happened?
@@ClaesN1973 He passed away in an accident. Sadly.
@@alangioro I'm sorry to hear that :(
@@alangioro wait what?? Fricken hell, I’ve been watching these guys on and off for a while now. This is devastating to hear 😟 Wow…may he ride in peace ✌️
Such sad news. RIP Cristian and sincere condolences to his family and friends😢
Hello, dear friends. After five years with the DriveMag Riders, it's time for a new step. Two weeks ago we launched a new TH-cam channel, and we're not a part of the Riders anymore. We're missing you, so join us in this new adventure. :D Cristian and Bogdanel.
You guys, Fortnine, and Bret Tkacs are about the only motorcycle channels worth watching these days. Congrats on the 100K!
Seriously?. !
Never seen ari and zack?
Rev Zilla
Same! (+Ari and Zack!)
Spot on! Absolutely agree
44 teeth bruh
I just rode 700 miles of dirt in Utah, Moab and the surrounding areas on my Rally Pro. Amongst our group we had a GSA, AT, a couple CRF450, a KTM 390 and a Triumph 800..... when we were blasting down a washboarded section I was relaxingly sitting in the saddle hauling ass on my 900RP. When we stopped they all asked me how in the hell I could do that and not get destroyed by the bumps being shoved up my back....my answer is because the RP suspension is so good you don’t even feel the bumps...it was an amazing ride. It’s not as capable on road as my wife’s 900 GTpro, but I get where I’m going with lots of energy to spare...then I hammer the dirt...
RIP Christian, you will be missed man.
Always loved your videos 😔🥀
What's happened?
Honda starts no mater if the display loads or not,you don't have to wait to start the engine,it will load even if you start riding and you can press the enter button to go in the main paige,and you buy Honda to ride all your life,not to keep it in service like other brands..🙂
Honda Africa Twin the legend lives 👍😎
It is not legend
Don’t understand why everybody that tests the Africa twin always uses the DCT which is not a fair comparison.
He said manual version was not available for the test.
@@jobrn1 Understandable, but then it's not a good comparison. DCT is best suited for road, manual clearly gives rider more control and connection to off road conditions, inc less weight. By not postponing test until manual availability, it may sway some to not appreciate AT in rough off-roading.
It was always the same back when it launched in 2016 and ever since, may be it's just Honda pushing it. You've got to play along if you wanna get some bikes :P
@@diogomorato Sadly your right. The trend is clear, more and more electronics and computers taking over riding control, guess many want that as it sells. At least the new Yamaha T700 didn't go overboard.
@@larryj8924 whats wrong with using dct in manual mode?
That's why I love this channel. Half way through the video and they've already declared a winner. My curiosity forced me to finish the video and I wasn't disappointed. Thanks guys.
To Christian. I still miss you buddy. God be with you.
I could have bought any mid-weight adventure bike. The motor and shifting on the Triumph is best over all the brands I tested. Traded my 2020 BMW R1250GSA for Tiger 900 Rally Pro and no regrets!!
Rest in Peace Christian 😔 I've been an avid follower from Istanbul.. You'll be sorely missed....
Can you please tell me the full name ?
@@Arjun.Ambadi. Cristian Predoi
Quality of your videos is crazy good nowadays! Love the drone footage :-)
Love the 2020 Africa twin. Loaded with amazing tech. If only people would actually try to use it. Getting sick hearing bike testers on TH-cam say that there are ‘too many buttons’. It’s not rocket science. Seriously. CarPlay on this bike is immense. I just wish Honda Uk were as good as bmw for after sales support. Bmw can ship parts to my dealer overnight. Honda ? Been waiting on part of a kit deal and the crash bars for months. Puts me off Honda in future.
Dct is more a road oriented feature imo for the adventure sport. The lighter version for offroad opt for manual.
My buddy took a gamble with the DCT & loves it. The 1000cc one. I’m keen on trying the 1100 new one but can’t decide. I’m more for touring for 16-17 hour rids ... almost zero percent off road.
@@rajindarsingh1417 sounds like you might be better suited perhaps to a Gold Wing or BMW K1600 GT - unless you really like the riding position of the Africa Twin.
theonlyredspecial - I had a GS1200. I need an adventure bike as opposed to the GW , because I don’t like to baby my bike. I’ll have to cover it up all the time & keep it away from the sun. Maybe a Tenere ( a real tank )
@@rajindarsingh1417 Like you, I'm heavily biased towards on-road. I'm trying to decide between AT (manual probably) and Ducati 950S. I've always loved my Ducatis, and I think it would be way more comfortable for long rides than the AT, but the lack of dealers in the U.S. is a big concern; there are Honda dealers everywhere. I haven't ridden either one yet. If the AT is really top heavy as most people say, and uncomfortable, then I'll go Ducati and hope for good reliability like I've had in the past.
@@rajindarsingh1417 Wow! A Tenere for 16 hours a day? Great for off-road, but I can't imagine that.
I have a 2014 Tiger 800, I am glad to hear they made some changes to the engine placement and weight moving down especially. I may have to go test ride one. I can't imagine the Africa Twin is feeling heavier. My Triumph is so top heavy.
Well deserved award guys, you still produce the most professional videos, onwards and upwards...
Went from a klr to a 2021 ATAS manual and I’ll never regret it! Dealers everywhere, parts everywhere but reliability forever!
Really like that you guys put your plaque in a random video instead of creating a video entirely for it, its refreshing, and unique
The straightforward delivery and practical observations are nice.
Many reviewers concentrate on things that don't have much impact and avoid the things people really want to hear about.
You guys really went deep on this comparison! The one group I ride with, all 4 ride Triumphs, 2-800s and 2-900s. I think your observations are spot on. My only problem with the Africa twin is it’s awfully heavy for a man of my age, 68. However, I will not sell it until I can no longer ride it. I have found a workaround, riding a CRF 300L to gain off-road skill,that can be applied to the Twin.
Congratulations for your TH-cam Award, which I think you truly deserve. Oh, by the way, another very fine and helpful video. Thanks for making and sharing
2 great bikes evaluated comprehensively by 2 great riders. Thank you for guiding the adventure motorcycling community.
You forgot to mention one of the greatest strengths of the Tiger... It has one of the best, if not the best, quickshifter and auto blipper in any motorcycle.
Great point ! A quality quickshifter makes the 20 pound DCT irrelevant. The Triumph quickshifter is silky smooth compared to the clunky BMW unit, its on par with Aprilia
@@RedC63AMG Have you ever tried the DCT? ;) I like it.... The weak point is the infotainment system..
I test rode Triumph and yea it's quickshifter was great. But I needed to kick shifting lever rather pushing it to shift. It was a bit odd. Also rode Africa DCT and manual and I would go for manual version just to save that weight. Gearbox in Honda is just perfect no need for DCT. But that is my preference.
Look at roadcraft Nottingham bad build tiger
Congratulations on getting 100000 subscribers....Drivemag Riders is an awesome channel!!!
This video was like a 30mins meditation
Congrats and thank you for the review from Montreal!
I think I prefer the Tiger. If you want to spend hours in the saddle, day after day, the bike doesn't necessarily need to be "exciting", but does need to be comfortable. I tried the Africa Twin and found to feel very top heavy and cumbersome. Also, some of your footage looked like the AT suspension wasnt keeping the wheels in contact with the ground. Bit skippy ! Tiger for me.
This is an outstanding film. The long, side tracking shots are fantastic, normal speed or slo-mo. Your tourist board should be thanking you too. Beautiful.
Stoked for you guys!! from Montana!!
Weight is the biggest problem with big adventure bikes, and cost, that’s why I ride a Yamaha WR250R. It takes me anywhere. I enjoy your honest bike reviews.
I currently ride a 2017 BMW F800 GS which I think is the perfect balance for me between road and off-road use.
Best photography on TH-cam, amazing job guys, love the channel , I just need to bust you on the reliability lack of testing, keep up the good work.
As a buyer of these types of bikes I take note of your opinions. Most buyers only get a 15-20 minute test ride from dealers to evaluate a preference before spending their money.
I have just done 3,000 + klms on my Tiger 900 Rally, with a recent three day ride on mostly sealed roads with 500 klms of gravel road. Fuel consumption was between 4.8lts - 6lts/100klms with panniers, the latter being with a strong head wind at 110klms/hour.
Some pluses for the bike so far are a comfortable seat and riding position (have bar risers fitted). Plush suspension (set at original settings.)
Negatives, the screen could be better for touring. Buffeting on helmet with screen in high position (I’m 178cm) OK when set lower. Wind on shoulders evident by all the squashed bugs on my jacket shoulders. Now ride with visor down the whole time. Previously had a Givi screen on a V Strom which was great for wind protection with no buffeting.
My Rally had a couple of software issues with the TFT screen which have now been rectified by the dealer.
I still have the original road tyres fitted so have kept away from more challenging rides.
I have not ridden an Africa Twin, so can’t comment on comparisons.
John English How do you find the heat off engine? Was out on mine yesterday, 32°c and is only spring! Heat at 100-110 kph hits legs and deflects up to stomach/ chest... shall be interesting come summer😱🥵🥵 Otherwise fantastic bike, feels much lighter off road than its actual weight👍👍👍
@@oldfart7479 I find the heat on the RP not bad compared to my previous Tiger 1200 it was terribly hot.
@@oldfart7479 I havn't had the bike out in anything over 30c degrees (and that was highway riding) so I've yet to find out what it's like on a hot day. I left Stanthorpe, Queensland in the morning, a few days ago with 2c degrees and an ice warning showing on the TFT screen, so that was a novelty for me living here in the sub tropics.
We'll be miss you Cristian thanks for everything
Congratulations with the 100k subscribers 👍👍👍
Congrats guys, your videos are world class and you deserve all the recognition. From South Africa.
What one will you get?
Great video .I have Africa Twin Adventure sports 2018 and i absolutely love it.
Congratulations on the award! Love this channel and look forward to your videos! Keep up the awesome work!
His reaction by sharing the success of the YT award typifies why Cristian is sadly missed. He moved on from this channel to his new channel with his colleague who shares this video, Bogdanel. Sadly he passed away as a result of an accident in 2021. Do I write this because I knew him personally ? No, I write it out of respect to the most professional moto journalist on YT.
Congrats from Southern California! Not surprised, great channel.
Congrats from Portugal 👏🏼👏🏼
It’s always a pleasure to watch your reviews! Keep up the awesome work 😎🏍✊🏼
That right phrase : when you ride Atwin you feel like you cab conquered the world! Best and precisely slogan for this amazing mashine! Merry Christmas 🎄
Hello guys, congratulations on TH-cam 100k subscribers, keep it going, honesty is the key.
Question, do you think the previous generation of Tiger would have been more competitive for the Honda?
Cheers from Scotland.
I personally enjoyed the previous one on asphalt. I dare to say that for me it felt better than the new one. But not on gravel and enduro. Cristian
Congratulations on the 100k subscriber milestone. Big fan of the channel. All the best!
Your channel is very good, technically qualified, excellent, visually appealing, honest. Congratulations from Italy.
OkmaTo
Congratulations on the silver button...much love and appreciation from India...
Great review guys. Where would you see the 850gs compared with these 2 bikes as I know you took the 850 across Russia a while ago. ?🇬🇧
Congratulations guys. Keep up the good work.
I watch most of the reviews and videos from your channel.
👍🏻👍🏻
I like Africa Twin, it's features like DCT, cool design and great reliability appeals to me. Yet, I suppose DCT will evolve, so there will be no more hesitation if it's good for off-road or not.
I must be getting old; rather have the Tiger for the more plush relaxed ride. Don't want to have the urge to go "fast" and push it...
I have to agree. The Tiger (or any other adventure bike of this class) is surely fast enough for an adventure bike and if you want more get a street/sports bike. These are adventure bikes afterall. And of course there's always an option to do some tuning as well if you want to get even more oompf out of the engines. Besides, we've had this powerful adventure bikes only for a small while. Similar kind of bikes in the past were way less powerful and slower. These current ones are really fast and have a lot of power.
Congratulations on the well-deserved success guys - onwards and upwards: keep it up!
Seriously!!!
The Tiger is a stand out winner by a huge margin!! Ride both in the dirt and it is superior in all respects!!!
No comparison!!!
Really do an honest report!!
Well done for the silver prize! Keep up the quality content. Greetings from Greece.
Enjoy for yours 100k suscribers (now 147k !!!), continue to share the passion for motorcycles
Congratulations! A DCT on an off-road bike was always a terrible idea to me. That new Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro is fantastic. I test rode one and almost bought it on the spot, but there is $5000US difference in price between the base 900 and the Rally Pro.
Nice review guys. You got some great beautiful footage of the rides. And I love you real world descriptions and analysis.
Just look at the AT!! There isn't a more exciting bike made! I absolutely love the look and the fact it towers over cars is a huge plus.
Awesome job with your channel, one of the best on youtube. Keep it going.
Congratulations for the 100’000 subscribers!! You have a great channel and you deserve it!!!
love the side angle view through the trees!
Literally been rewatching your Tiger900 and AT videos yesterday comparing the two. Love both bikes... Heart lies with AT, brain says Tiger.... and ego screams KTM :))
Congrats with the recognition! Very much deserved! And another zero will come. Keep rockin'N'rollin' ;)
and the GS is the winner 😉
3 months with the Tiger, and loving it.
I'm coming from a V Strom 1000, and gotta say... I'm never looking back.
Don't have any comments on the AT, but I'd say you can't go wrong with either.
Test ride them, so that'll make it easier for you to decide.
Fuck man, hard to believe Cristian is not with us anymore. These videos just popping up on TH-cam. You are greatly missed.
Another point that is of note is that the Tiger comes with way more kit than the Africa. If you add everything up it could be close to 1500-2000€ difference.
If you want go eat big mac at McDo both are great bike
Christian and Bogdan sir u all r really awesome in every aspects Big fan from India 😊😊
Thank you so much for all the hard work you do . And for taking us on great adventures with all your great videos. don't stop ever please
I love this channel! Very honest, genuine reviews all that with his credibility.
Congratulations (from the UK) on the award- you guys continue to produce useful and honest reviews.
Much love from the Philippines. Keep up the good work guys and Congratulations!
Well done on the subscription base. Love your professionalism and informative style.
2020 AT here, couldn't love it more!
Well you guys certainly didn’t make my decision any easier!
I like your honesty and the way you parley
The new triple firing order sounds way nicer than it used to too!
Well i loved the whistle
Congratulations on passing 100K. Your content is fantastic. Keep up the good work 🤜🏼
Thank you! Will do!
First at all congratulations for the plate, and... I just wonder... can you do a wheelie with that the África twin?? 🤔
"You Selfish Basterd" , 5 sec later
"You're So Nice"😂😂
Well done 100,000 subscribers, always look forward to your rides and reviews here in Australia. 🍺🍺🏍🏍👍
I love this channel, keep up the good work guys! Greetings from Colombia
All good and I like Tiger but ... Tiger with its 20L tank and fuell consumption of 5.2l/100km will take you around 240 mil, while AF Sport adv. with its bigger, 1100 cc engine, 4.9l/100km and tank of 24.8L, will go another 100 miles before refuelling. I didn't see any review so far where this would be mentioned and this seems to be rather important factor if you think of an adventure bike and going off-road more offen then staying on the tarmac. The KTM Adventure 790 R is right behind AF on power, torque and range, but at the lower price. It is also a bit lighter too.
The Tiger 900 has a 5.28 (20L)gallon tank, and gets 52.3mpg average. 5.28 x 52.3 = 276.144 miles to a tank.
Africa Twin has a 6.5 gallon tank and gets 46mph, so it can go 299 miles on a tank. Thats only 23 miles more to a tank, not 100 miles.
The Africa Twin makes more power, but the Tiger is lighter, giving it nearly the exact same power to weight ratio. Tiger is also way cheaper than the Honda. The KTM makes a tiny bit more power and is lighter than the Tiger, but the Tiger is cheaper at $12,500. KTM isn't winning any beauty pageants either
The Tiger 900 is actually one of the best ADV's for the money in this particular segment
We love you man , And I sincerely miss your humour and explanation .
My condolences to your family and friends 😞
Congrats from Sweden. Longing for a ride in Romania.
What video!! Nice job guys (as always)! The best of europe! Cheers from Spain!!
Trank you for all the fantastisch Reports.
I have a 2017 standard AT. Love it - and prefer it over the new model. My next bike will probably be the Tiger.
Congrats with the channel - always been great content and the video quality gets better every time.
Me too. And I think the same.
Why prefer it over the new model?
RihardChannel simpler - less to go wrong. Cockpit not as wide.
Thank you for such an honest review 🙂 and not sticking to the script given by the manufacturer
Really nice to see you making better videos all the time. And the discussions are getting better and better. It's not always about being faster. I do feel like most new bikes are to fragile, heavy and the joy of riding is hindered by having to navigate the menu's to turn off TCS.
I miss the fall, pickup, kick and go attitude of some older bikes.
RichyVida, The Missenden Flyer, Teapot 1 they will get your numbers up.
Congrats on the 100k! I really enjoy your channel and the reviews. Looking forward to hearing about the 1,000k subs!
You deserve your award. Great job your videos !
Congrats on 100k subs. I enjoy your production and edit. Congrats to the staff
Keep the good work guys, love your reviews. Bafta!
Excellent review of bikes and congratulations on 100ks subscriber's just subscribed
Guys these 2 bikes are excellent - choose which ever you want, you can't go wrong !
Very good 😀 I liked 😄 super nice reviews 👌 you do great Job guys. Have been watching you a lot on yours YT channels. Keep going 👏👏👏 Be chilled 😎 Do more, have fun 😆 Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
all this done in the AT DCT model; impressive tech.
Congrats from Brazil !!! Keep moving forward !!!
Thanks for the review. I'm also trying to choose between these two bikes for my next motorcycle. I still wish both bikes had a master switch to turn all electronic intervention off and keep it off.
Just cut the wire to the sensors!
5000 trouble free 50/50 miles on my Tiger RP in Colorado. Love it. Had many including the Africa Twin. Sorry can't disagree more.
How do you find the windscreen? Much buffeting or head wobble/noise?
@@SteveWKk I wear an Arai XD3. Best stock screen I've ever had. Up high on road down low off. Best do almost everything but hard single track bike...period.
Great video. I from Brasil. I bought Tiger, but Africa ia very strong bike. I chose this motocycle because i will riding more time um the city and highway. Hug to everyone.
Great Channel. Hugs from a Brazilian fan
You are generally dooing a really good job but in this case , if you choose the top of the class Rally Pro , the comparison is the manual shifted , EERA fitted ATAS . I know you mentioned there was only DCT but then , although its not as radically apart as apples and pears , its still not really to be compared . Just my 2 cents :)
Cheers from Ardeal ;)
Love your videos, guys, you're the best! Keep it rolling