Damn. I don't know about you, but the reviewers we watch here on TH-cam have become like "family". An extension of what we are familiar and accustomed to. It's painful accepting loss.
@@joshuaberekinuthia4461 ive watched all his videos man. As I said he was my favorite motorcycle reviewer. Lots of real world experiences. I can only hope to see what he has seen on two wheels one day.
Wet road. He lost balance on his GS. First he hit a car then was thrown on a fence. He survived the crush but he died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. RIP
Cristian, your videos have always been so interesting to watch and I always looked forward to watching your adventures and listening to your opinion. RIP my friend, gone too soon and you will be missed.
My friend bought a 2020 with every option. The updated electronics made it a "night verses day" difference between the 2019 and later versions. The Africa Twin (now) is truly a "world class bike"!!
Brilliant review. I have exactly that bike, the 2020 DCT standard and you’ve highlighted exactly the same good points and faults as I have found. - The seat is uncomfortable after an hour. I have dictated an Air Hawk Dual Sport seat pad, which solves that. - The screen is non-adjustable. I fitted a Givi tall screen. - DCT. I have a left ankle injury, so it’s brilliant for me. Best of all about DCT - you can’t stall it. So if you’re off road, it’s excellent. - Tank size. I’m not as adventurous as you, but 18 litres at 55mpg gives me 200 miles or 300 km, which is fine. - Panniers. The Honda panniers are really expensive. I’d like to try the Honda plastic ones, as they integrate better with the styling and sit closer to the bodywork. - The electronics. This is one complicated machine and you will need to be familiar with menus to get the most from it. It took me over 1000km to get to grips with it, but it is superb. - Bluetooth and phone integration. It can now be updated to take Android Auto as well as Apple CarPlay. You’ve nailed the best thing about it though. It hits the sweet spot between the massive BMW 1250GS and the KTM790, Tenere700 type bikes. This is the best review I’ve seen on TH-cam.
Loving your work. I really respect your reviews too as a fan of your previous channel I know how much experience you have when it comes to Adventure bike travel.
Great review. I have the 2017 version. The most comfortable seat. Drove it for almost 11 hours straight and no pain whatsoever. I am 6’1”. Even in speeds over 130 the fuel consumption is almost the same as driving 110. Less buttons which I find great. Awesome bike. Just a bit on the heavy side. Love the DCT. I took the Mitas e07+ and they last for ever. I did more that 13k on them. The mitas tires become unstable after 165 km but who rides at those speeds? Maybe one pass for few seconds.... Anything over 130 km is just not realistic. Too noisy and what is the rush? Trying to get a ticket from the police? Found that the adjustable Givi screen is the perfect solution and it’s not that expensive. I also love the panniers that just slip on with no rack and easy to put. I dropped the bike few times with them loaded and no issues. Most of the time we don’t use them and bike looks better without the metal rack... Keep on the great stuff in the channel
I've test driven the Adventure Sports recently, with dct. Well it feels very different from my 2017 Africa Twin. The electronic suspensions on the new bike make the difference, and the dct works very well.
Great video, amigo! The AT is a fantastic bike, especially on off-road, it feels a little bit like a dirt bike, despite the size and weight. (This is coming from the GS 1250 owner in the background ) . :-))
When trying to decide between the standard and Adventure Sport versions try to get a test ride off road with both. If you never go off road the taller and heavier AS model is manageable, if you are tall enough. The added weight of the larger fuel load coupled with the high mounting position and taller suspension combine to raise the center of gravity significantly. In my considerable experience it is much easier to drop the AS model in these conditions. The better suspension on the AS does help with ride comfort and control. The DCT transmission is very refined, but adds 22 lbs and protrudes more. The cases are thin and crack easily in the rocks, leaving you stranded. For serious off road the standard model is much better. The stock skid plate is too thin and weak to properly protect the engine. Mine caved in and destroyed the sump on a rock. Fortunately I only needed to replace the sump, not the entire engine. Invest in a thicker aftermarket skid plate. If you are short of stature you will really like a KTM 790-890 better. Lower seat height, lower CG because of the innovative fuel tank design, and considerably lower overall weight. I would pay more for the better suspension that comes on the R model.
My thoughts as well. I went with the 2022 AT base model and added the good bits. I'm 5'9" 160 - totally comfortable. This is the best bike ever. In the future, should I get an itch to scratch, I'll add ohlins.
Great review as always. I'm sure if you ride at 120 instead of 130 on the highway you'd get easily over 300km between fill ups. The faster you go the more air resistance there's no way around it. On my 2019 AT I get 400km most of the time with a mix of country roads and highway.
If you are fronting this channel... I subscribe! As I really like and appreciate your honest and well rounded reviews. Can’t wait till aHonda releases the CB1100X (a more road focused Africa Twin) at the end of this year. I think this might be my next bike. Looking forward to your review of it...
Great Vid yet again. I have 2020 Africa Twin same as that but manual. FUEL: Fuel tank is actually 18.8L and on Hwy relaxed cruising at 115km/h I get around 4.3L/100km or less!! So 440 km per tank. So was surprised when you show 6L/100km and say fill up every 200km Even at that rate you still get over 300km from a tank. I wonder if the DCT is less efficient or the tyres affect a lot or your bike was not tuned well ?? I'd rather have a lighter bike than the Adventure Sport for 90% of my riding and then when I occasionally need more fuel for a remote trip than put a 5L fuel bladder on the back!! Why carry all that weight around ALL the time when you rarely need it. SCREEN: Definitely should be adjustable like rest of the competition!! Wolfgang Rolf at Batzenparts makes a great bracket to add on which makes your existing screen adjustable!
Same here, tires quite likely, panniers even more so. Standard bike with kinda road rubbers (metzeller karoo street) no problem up to 180/190 km/h. On the other hand with panniers (sw motech trax evo) it become pretty shaky pretty soon. On a more offroad tyre (karoo extreeme) it becomes scary at highway legal speed 😅
Outstanding real-world review of the overall capabilities of the Africa Twin. In my advancing years and overall stature I think it is too heavy and imposing; I am willing to sacrifice some travel comfort for off-road confidence.
Great review,all the things you said are true except the part about the Dct and that is it unstable over 150.I have the stock tires and I 've been travelling around 180-200 and I had zero problems,the bike is very stable,even on 210-215 when I reached it I had slight wobble,which is bearable. About the DCT box things are complicated either you will love it or hate it,its like Abs or no Abs on bike which many folks grinch about :P. For me I was about to choose between manual or Dct and I am happy that I picked the Dct one. In the city I use auto on S1 mode which u get me less fuel consumption around 4.6 to 5.1 (depends how fast I accelerate or driving),I had not to worry about gear shifting when I am braking. On open road/off road I go with manual always (gear shifting from hand which is cool) and yes the fuel consumption above 150 sux but who cares, the FUN starts and that is all that matters :D Greeting from Greece bro!
I almost get 500km out of my 23lt tank on my 1190 on the fwy. 270km is not enough for a big bike. Plus that Honda seems thirsty so a bigger tank is a must.
Love my 17 africa twin dct. Outback motortech crashbars & added spoiler adj. screen.Mefo super explorer tires are awesome ( no one seems to mention them for some reason) great review!
If money is no object, basic version fully equiped is better than Adventure Sports. Because of the weight and looks. Also i do not like the double headlights of the Adventure Sports and Gold rims. Solution for the seat is to buy optional Honda Touring seat for this model which comes 4cm more of foam.
You're right, but for a long adventure trip you will need to improve the basic version more than regarding the seat and the price will become the same. In my opinion the most important plus of the Adventure Sports version is that it has spoked rims (even if they are gold) with tubless tyres.
I have a 2020 AT base, and I agree about the seat; its very uncomfortable after about 2 hours. The seat is also a PIA to install. Other than that, it is the funnest bike I've owned, and I love it!
I love this bike more then Adventure sport. In Thailand 🇹🇭 we don't have this bike with DCT only clutch…. I l pefer dct! My current Atwin 2016 model dct hit 123 000km and doing very very good! Seat is narrow good for crazy enduro stuff but jo food for touring! Atwin is enduro crazy mashine on this bike you can follow smal enduro dirt bike in 80% cases.
Nice video. I have one too, the manual version, in red. I've had it for about 7 months now and I completely agree with most of what you said, especially the seat. I tried the Honda tall windshield and I didn't like it for the same reasons as you, so I opted for the Puig one, perfect. Blocks out the wind, is adjustable, doesn't distort the view if I choose to look through it, but I don't because I can see over it. I was however surprised with you mileage. For me, at the speed limit on the highway (+/- 120 km/h) I get 400 km from my bike. It might be the tires? On that note, they maybe the reason for your wobbles at +150 km/h (I believe you have M+S tires? Those aren't rated to go above 160 km/h). I still have the stock AX41T tires and I have zero complains on wobbling at high speed. For me, my biggest and probably only two annoyances - other than the seat - are the lack of rear carrier for top box and the central stand, that in my country amount to nearly 700 euros in extras. But I guess they wanted to save weight...
@@frankeethesledrider3953 Hey, yes, here it is. It's for the current AT. Enjoy puig.tv/en/tuning-motos/windscreens-for-fairing-bikes/touring-screen?bike=25979
Willcome back..Long time no see, honest review, The Big Red is no doubt a fantastic,yes,nit for touring, more offroad biased,so it's more adventurer..#soloride_zx
Nice review. I was waiting for this review. Now one question 😉if you are going for a long tour which one you choose from Africa twin standard & Tenere 700?
I’ve personally owned both. The Africa twin is defo more comfortable on long trips. But... feels cumbersome compared with tenere 700 which I now own. Both have different advantages
We met a Romanian guy in a petrol station in our last trip in Romania. He was a proud owner of an Africa 750 and 1000 and with the 1000 he rode from his town in Romania to cappadocia turkey in a single day 1700km. That says something about the bikes comfort.
Nice review as usual. I find the level of equipment on the standard AT low so basic options increase the bill quickly and at the en this bike is not competitive in terms of price.
The t7 have its perks, no doubt about it, but honestly is truly a different bike with a different target. The at way is more powerful (both power and torque), better finished in general, with and extremely complete and well working electronics. The t7 is cheaper, some 20cv lighter, simpler, likely a bit more inclined to the offroad side of the dual. It really depends on what one is looking for.
@@scldma114 Presne tak nerikam ze africa je spatna motorka je dobra a najde si sve kupce me osobne ale vubec neoslovila dlouhe bootovani displeje, zvlastni nuance od predni vidlice, mene pohodlne sedlo, mala nadrz, a hlavne cena u zakladniho modelu, proto volim tenere 700 :)
All the things you say that you don't like are solved by the adv sports version, I think the problem is that you got confused when choosing a model. Personally, it seems to me to be one of the most perfect motorcycle that has been manufactured in the last decade, a totally versatile motorcycle of high manufacturing quality, a Honda like the mythical ones of this brand.
Another great video and review! Choosing a new travel mate for 2021 I did consider Honda ATAS. Ended up with KTM1290. Not because of its power though. In fact, think it is right to say that if you're a lower grunt'ish or rpm sort of rider, who likes a mix and match between off/on-road, the 1290 needs the oomph to be a decent match to 1250GS. Or the ATAS for that matter. Almost all bikes have "flaws". Things we need to do for personal adjustments. Whether Honda, BMW, KTM or other. I always factor in or expect things to change, or add. Would think that applies to all or most riders? I also liked ergonomics, disliked the seat, the fact that there's no adjustable mechanism for the wind screen, the overall fuel economy, and a few other things. Yet the list of things to like was indeed comprehensive. At the end of the day, one only knows what one knows, by personal experience. Often gained whilst inspired by listening to good riders and reviewers like yourself. Their real life experiences. Maybe one day I'll choose the ATAS. It has a lot of compelling features. But this year (or next) a new creature will make it to the market A creature many expect much out of, or from. Thinking of Norden 901. It remains to be seen if indeed it will be a game changer, both a contender and fierce competitor to all the other creatures in the upper/middle adventure segment.
Great video again thanks :). I am sure the knobby tkc 80 causes the wobble at high speed. Could you please show us the routes you were riding on? Amazing.
Honda designed a smaller tank on this bike so you end up stopping more often to not feel the poorly made uncomfortable seat. Dude, @9:13 you were already out of gas!! I like to know if your drone is smart enough to follow you into those tunnels. LOL I subscribed to your NEW TH-cam channel, will you have your buddy with the eyeglasses on your channels too?
is it the original Honda crash bars? Looks great in black. I have only seen silver and it looks just bad on a black bike. Great Job with your channels really appreciate it.
Nice review from your travel with the Africa Twin. I like the standrad Red a lot and I´am a off road rider. You mean, the manuell gearbox with quickshifter is better for off road and gravel roads than the DCT? Thanks.
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Gonna miss this dude. He was the best motorcycle reviewer.
? What happened?
@@dry509 had a bad accident on bike. I believe he was hit head on by a car and succumbed to his injury’s on way to ER. Definitely a sad situation.
Damn. I don't know about you, but the reviewers we watch here on TH-cam have become like "family". An extension of what we are familiar and accustomed to. It's painful accepting loss.
@@joshuaberekinuthia4461 ive watched all his videos man. As I said he was my favorite motorcycle reviewer. Lots of real world experiences. I can only hope to see what he has seen on two wheels one day.
@@Rundeezyy Thats correct, Google on his name. Nasty accident.
RIP my friend. Thank you for your honest reviews and for the inspiration!
What happened to him?
@@johnnyboy1586 he crashed
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Wet road. He lost balance on his GS. First he hit a car then was thrown on a fence. He survived the crush but he died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. RIP
He died doing what he absolutely loved. We should be so lucky to pass the same way. RIP champion. 👋
Cristian, your videos have always been so interesting to watch and I always looked forward to watching your adventures and listening to your opinion.
RIP my friend, gone too soon and you will be missed.
Chilli, Oh no, what happened? First I'm hearing of this.
@@Chenzoman Our dear friend Cristian passed from this life in July :(
My friend bought a 2020 with every option. The updated electronics made it a "night verses day" difference between the 2019 and later versions. The Africa Twin (now) is truly a "world class bike"!!
I bought a 2020 Adventure Sports. I can’t wait to share my adventures on it this year.
The very best review!!! I've just bought the Adventure Sports. Can't wait to try it out properly.
Brilliant review. I have exactly that bike, the 2020 DCT standard and you’ve highlighted exactly the same good points and faults as I have found.
- The seat is uncomfortable after an hour. I have dictated an Air Hawk Dual Sport seat pad, which solves that.
- The screen is non-adjustable. I fitted a Givi tall screen.
- DCT. I have a left ankle injury, so it’s brilliant for me. Best of all about DCT - you can’t stall it. So if you’re off road, it’s excellent.
- Tank size. I’m not as adventurous as you, but 18 litres at 55mpg gives me 200 miles or 300 km, which is fine.
- Panniers. The Honda panniers are really expensive. I’d like to try the Honda plastic ones, as they integrate better with the styling and sit closer to the bodywork.
- The electronics. This is one complicated machine and you will need to be familiar with menus to get the most from it. It took me over 1000km to get to grips with it, but it is superb.
- Bluetooth and phone integration. It can now be updated to take Android Auto as well as Apple CarPlay.
You’ve nailed the best thing about it though. It hits the sweet spot between the massive BMW 1250GS and the KTM790, Tenere700 type bikes.
This is the best review I’ve seen on TH-cam.
God bless that man. So missed, such a good reviewer. This channel must not end though. Bogdan find a new partner!
Your reviews still remain tops for anyone looking to buy a motorcycle and looking for good advice.Keep it going.Cheers.JHB-SA.
Hi Bruce, long time no see
Hello Bruce! Thanks for you kind words.
I bought the black one here in the USA. I love it! Surprisingly good off-road.
it's an oversized dirt bike
Surprisingly? That's what it's meant for!!
@@alexandrekirouac5921 yes but it’s very large
Exactly! Ergonomic is perfect! About seat, it is also right and is necessary find solutions in aftermarket product’s!
MY BIKE??? Your choice!!!! Africa Twin 1100 adv!!! with ES! i'm agree with your observations! Nice video! Greetings from Italy🇮🇹
Thank you! Stay safe!
Loving your work. I really respect your reviews too as a fan of your previous channel I know how much experience you have when it comes to Adventure bike travel.
I appreciate that! Thanks for joining the new one. Cristian.
@@RacingandAdventure Is the older channel no longer? Where are the other guys?
Great review. I have the 2017 version. The most comfortable seat. Drove it for almost 11 hours straight and no pain whatsoever. I am 6’1”.
Even in speeds over 130 the fuel consumption is almost the same as driving 110.
Less buttons which I find great. Awesome bike. Just a bit on the heavy side. Love the DCT.
I took the Mitas e07+ and they last for ever. I did more that 13k on them.
The mitas tires become unstable after 165 km but who rides at those speeds? Maybe one pass for few seconds....
Anything over 130 km is just not realistic. Too noisy and what is the rush? Trying to get a ticket from the police?
Found that the adjustable Givi screen is the perfect solution and it’s not that expensive.
I also love the panniers that just slip on with no rack and easy to put. I dropped the bike few times with them loaded and no issues.
Most of the time we don’t use them and bike looks better without the metal rack...
Keep on the great stuff in the channel
Thank you! It seems that the 2017 AT suits you perfectly. Glad about it. Thanks for the feedback. Cristian
Thanks for this review. I bought the red one allready. No complaints about it - looks tough and rides very well.
Great to hear! Have fun
You deserve more than you have.Fantastic video as usual
Thank you so much 😀
I have the Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L model 2018, same color as the one on the video. It is a great bike!
It's the best looking motorcycle I've ever seen. I can't believe that heated seat isn't available. Thanks for the review comrade.
Thanks for watching!
Great to see you back. Always enjoy your reviews . Some of the most professionally filmed and presented motorcycle reviews on you tube 👍👍
Thank you! More to come.
@@RacingandAdventure no more DriveMag Riders?
Best bike on market now!
You guys do a great job at testing and reviewing. Thanks for the great content and hi from the USA
Hey, thanks!
Pedro and Bogdan sir's English is much more understandable than any other English speaking motovlogger.🙂🙂 Plz visit India once
We will!
Yes. Great personality. Great reviewer. RIP Cristian.
I don't need to say this anymore, but YOU ARE GREAT MAN, feels like you are a family from BRAZIL :-) Cheers brother, thanks a lot.
Great review, you are really missed Cristian RIP!
I've test driven the Adventure Sports recently, with dct. Well it feels very different from my 2017 Africa Twin. The electronic suspensions on the new bike make the difference, and the dct works very well.
Finally i got recommended by TH-cam to your new channel! Great content as always. Subscribed! Hello from Malaysia!
Welcome aboard!
Very much missed, he was a brilliant reviewer
Great video, amigo! The AT is a fantastic bike, especially on off-road, it feels a little bit like a dirt bike, despite the size and weight. (This is coming from the GS 1250 owner in the background ) . :-))
Some say DCT model kills GS on offroad.
Love it! Someday this will be in my stable, just a little more cash than I have right now
you guys deserve way more subs than you have on your channels
Nice bike, great review . Hope they come out with a smaller version though , too big for me. Hope you guys test the new CRF 300 and Kawa KLX .300
We will! The CRF 300 is already confirmed for this year.
Try the CB500X. great value for money and very reliable. not as powerful as the Africa Twin of course but enough for most situations.
If you want a smaller more sport tour oriented with dct, check out the NC750X.
When trying to decide between the standard and Adventure Sport versions try to get a test ride off road with both. If you never go off road the taller and heavier AS model is manageable, if you are tall enough. The added weight of the larger fuel load coupled with the high mounting position and taller suspension combine to raise the center of gravity significantly. In my considerable experience it is much easier to drop the AS model in these conditions. The better suspension on the AS does help with ride comfort and control. The DCT transmission is very refined, but adds 22 lbs and protrudes more. The cases are thin and crack easily in the rocks, leaving you stranded. For serious off road the standard model is much better. The stock skid plate is too thin and weak to properly protect the engine. Mine caved in and destroyed the sump on a rock. Fortunately I only needed to replace the sump, not the entire engine. Invest in a thicker aftermarket skid plate. If you are short of stature you will really like a KTM 790-890 better. Lower seat height, lower CG because of the innovative fuel tank design, and considerably lower overall weight. I would pay more for the better suspension that comes on the R model.
My thoughts as well. I went with the 2022 AT base model and added the good bits. I'm 5'9" 160 - totally comfortable. This is the best bike ever. In the future, should I get an itch to scratch, I'll add ohlins.
Very humble guy..
Love your channel, great reviews, very informative and unbiased reviews, you visit some amazing places, ride safe 👍🏻
Thanks a ton!
Great review as always. I'm sure if you ride at 120 instead of 130 on the highway you'd get easily over 300km between fill ups. The faster you go the more air resistance there's no way around it.
On my 2019 AT I get 400km most of the time with a mix of country roads and highway.
Thanks for the info! I was complaining about it because I had a 800km day on highway in Turkey. Looong day.
On the same bike as his bike with passenger and 3 boxes on the highway i got a range of around 350km at 30 degrees celsius
If you are fronting this channel... I subscribe! As I really like and appreciate your honest and well rounded reviews.
Can’t wait till aHonda releases the CB1100X (a more road focused Africa Twin) at the end of this year. I think this might be my next bike. Looking forward to your review of it...
Thanks for joining! Yes, I'm also eager to see this engine that type of bike.
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Great review. Convinced me to get the manual Adventure Sports model. Picking it up next week. Thanks for the insights.
Good choice! Enjoy it!
A good review and great filming 👍
what a beatiful country :) come again.
We will.
First. Happy new year. Second.. Really nice review, hopefully we can see the adventure you had on your new Africa twin. 👍
Thanks. Happy new year. Check our first video on this channel. It's the Africa Twin Adv Ride in Turkey.
Hard core off road respect!!
Great Vid yet again. I have 2020 Africa Twin same as that but manual. FUEL: Fuel tank is actually 18.8L and on Hwy relaxed cruising at 115km/h I get around 4.3L/100km or less!! So 440 km per tank. So was surprised when you show 6L/100km and say fill up every 200km Even at that rate you still get over 300km from a tank. I wonder if the DCT is less efficient or the tyres affect a lot or your bike was not tuned well ?? I'd rather have a lighter bike than the Adventure Sport for 90% of my riding and then when I occasionally need more fuel for a remote trip than put a 5L fuel bladder on the back!! Why carry all that weight around ALL the time when you rarely need it. SCREEN: Definitely should be adjustable like rest of the competition!! Wolfgang Rolf at Batzenparts makes a great bracket to add on which makes your existing screen adjustable!
Thanks for the real-life feedback, Allan. We appreciate it and thank you for joining.
Got my CRF1100 Adventure sports DCT august 2020. Hoping to put at least 10K miles on it this year. Love the channel by the way
Rest in Peace Cristian ! We will miss you !
Finally AT stuff xD, if you fill it unstable may be the tires yes, i have an ATAS2020 and its very smoth at 200km/h
Same here, tires quite likely, panniers even more so. Standard bike with kinda road rubbers (metzeller karoo street) no problem up to 180/190 km/h. On the other hand with panniers (sw motech trax evo) it become pretty shaky pretty soon. On a more offroad tyre (karoo extreeme) it becomes scary at highway legal speed 😅
Thanks for the feedback.
@@RacingandAdventure i have the metzeler karoo3 that came with the bike and top case, is very stable no problems
I own a honda crf 150L here in the Philippines. Wish i could upgrade to a higher engine displacement soon. Thanks for sharing this video. Ride safe!
Yeah, the first!!cool!
Outstanding real-world review of the overall capabilities of the Africa Twin. In my advancing years and overall stature I think it is too heavy and imposing; I am willing to sacrifice some travel comfort for off-road confidence.
Thank you, Paul! Yes, you're right it's heavy. Although better than the R1250GS, for real off-road confidence you need something else.
Great review,all the things you said are true except the part about the Dct and that is it unstable over 150.I have the stock tires and I 've been travelling around 180-200 and I had zero problems,the bike is very stable,even on 210-215 when I reached it I had slight wobble,which is bearable.
About the DCT box things are complicated either you will love it or hate it,its like Abs or no Abs on bike which many folks grinch about :P.
For me I was about to choose between manual or Dct and I am happy that I picked the Dct one.
In the city I use auto on S1 mode which u get me less fuel consumption around 4.6 to 5.1 (depends how fast I accelerate or driving),I had not to worry about gear shifting when I am braking.
On open road/off road I go with manual always (gear shifting from hand which is cool) and yes the fuel consumption above 150 sux but who cares, the FUN starts and that is all that matters :D
Greeting from Greece bro!
Greetings! Thanks for the feedback. Cristian
great and honest review thx a lo and congratulations for your channel
Thanks and welcome
I almost get 500km out of my 23lt tank on my 1190 on the fwy. 270km is not enough for a big bike. Plus that Honda seems thirsty so a bigger tank is a must.
Love my 17 africa twin dct. Outback motortech crashbars & added spoiler adj. screen.Mefo super explorer tires are awesome ( no one seems to mention them for some reason) great review!
Didn't try them, but I'll have a look. Thank you!
I like the honest review! Well done.
Thanks!
R.I.P brother. I miss your videos.
Very good review for me to go for the Africa twin 1100CC and I can save some more money if compare with the GS price!!!! Thanks
A question for you. If you won a prize and the choice was either a new AT 1100 OR a new GS 1250, which would you choose and why? Thanks
That's an interesting point of view. But the difference it's not that big anymore. The AT got more expensive with this new version.
RIP You will be missed my man.
If money is no object, basic version fully equiped is better than Adventure Sports. Because of the weight and looks. Also i do not like the double headlights of the Adventure Sports and Gold rims. Solution for the seat is to buy optional Honda Touring seat for this model which comes 4cm more of foam.
You're right, but for a long adventure trip you will need to improve the basic version more than regarding the seat and the price will become the same. In my opinion the most important plus of the Adventure Sports version is that it has spoked rims (even if they are gold) with tubless tyres.
God needs good people to drive on the roads of paradise, so he took you, rest in peace, we will miss your adventures
I have a 2020 AT base, and I agree about the seat; its very uncomfortable after about 2 hours. The seat is also a PIA to install. Other than that, it is the funnest bike I've owned, and I love it!
I suggest you secure your phone with that rubber thing on the Ram Mount. It does help. Great video, thanks.
Wery wery good review
Rest in peace my friend.
I love this bike more then Adventure sport. In Thailand 🇹🇭 we don't have this bike with DCT only clutch…. I l pefer dct!
My current Atwin 2016 model dct hit 123 000km and doing very very good!
Seat is narrow good for crazy enduro stuff but jo food for touring! Atwin is enduro crazy mashine on this bike you can follow smal enduro dirt bike in 80% cases.
Nice video. I have one too, the manual version, in red. I've had it for about 7 months now and I completely agree with most of what you said, especially the seat. I tried the Honda tall windshield and I didn't like it for the same reasons as you, so I opted for the Puig one, perfect. Blocks out the wind, is adjustable, doesn't distort the view if I choose to look through it, but I don't because I can see over it. I was however surprised with you mileage. For me, at the speed limit on the highway (+/- 120 km/h) I get 400 km from my bike. It might be the tires? On that note, they maybe the reason for your wobbles at +150 km/h (I believe you have M+S tires? Those aren't rated to go above 160 km/h). I still have the stock AX41T tires and I have zero complains on wobbling at high speed. For me, my biggest and probably only two annoyances - other than the seat - are the lack of rear carrier for top box and the central stand, that in my country amount to nearly 700 euros in extras. But I guess they wanted to save weight...
Hi! Do you have the link to the adjustable puig windshield? Is it for the 2021 model?
@@frankeethesledrider3953 Hey, yes, here it is. It's for the current AT. Enjoy puig.tv/en/tuning-motos/windscreens-for-fairing-bikes/touring-screen?bike=25979
Greeting from İstanbul city/Turkey....
I like your video. Let's go. I really love my AT too, it's a great bike
Thanks! 👍
Willcome back..Long time no see, honest review, The Big Red is no doubt a fantastic,yes,nit for touring, more offroad biased,so it's more adventurer..#soloride_zx
Well said! Welcome to our new TH-cam channel
He will be missed.
Nice review. I was waiting for this review. Now one question 😉if you are going for a long tour which one you choose from Africa twin standard & Tenere 700?
Africa Twin. More comfortable for long trips, love the engine, the quality of the materials is better.
I’ve personally owned both. The Africa twin is defo more comfortable on long trips. But...
feels cumbersome compared with tenere 700 which I now own. Both have different advantages
Wow, my 2018 model does 320 km on a full tank on the highway averaging 130 km/ h. That seems like a big difference...
I agree to your conclusion. But that’s probably due to I’m a owner of an 2020 ATAS manual with quickshifter
Good, choice!
thanks for the qualified story
Awesome stuff
The high speed wobble may be due to the panniers.
RIP very good reviews
We met a Romanian guy in a petrol station in our last trip in Romania. He was a proud owner of an Africa 750 and 1000 and with the 1000 he rode from his town in Romania to cappadocia turkey in a single day 1700km. That says something about the bikes comfort.
Essa moto e muito top parabéns (Adriano Itapipoca Ceará Brasil)
"waawaaweewaa, I like!"
Nice review as usual. I find the level of equipment on the standard AT low so basic options increase the bill quickly and at the en this bike is not competitive in terms of price.
Thanks. That's an interesting point of view.
Take the T7 more economic, no traction control, bite lighter more simple you be happy
Presne tak, navic africa byla pro mne zklamanim a ta cena s doplnky je jak u BMW tak ze za me Yamaha tenere 700 :)
The t7 have its perks, no doubt about it, but honestly is truly a different bike with a different target. The at way is more powerful (both power and torque), better finished in general, with and extremely complete and well working electronics. The t7 is cheaper, some 20cv lighter, simpler, likely a bit more inclined to the offroad side of the dual. It really depends on what one is looking for.
@@scldma114 Presne tak nerikam ze africa je spatna motorka je dobra a najde si sve kupce me osobne ale vubec neoslovila dlouhe bootovani displeje, zvlastni nuance od predni vidlice, mene pohodlne sedlo, mala nadrz, a hlavne cena u zakladniho modelu, proto volim tenere 700 :)
@@majklnajkt5628 if only could understand what’s written there i might be able to answer 😉
All the things you say that you don't like are solved by the adv sports version, I think the problem is that you got confused when choosing a model. Personally, it seems to me to be one of the most perfect motorcycle that has been manufactured in the last decade, a totally versatile motorcycle of high manufacturing quality, a Honda like the mythical ones of this brand.
All besides the seat, that can be solved easily with an aftermarket version. :D Agree. Africa Twin is one of the best.
Another great video and review! Choosing a new travel mate for 2021 I did consider Honda ATAS. Ended up with KTM1290. Not because of its power though. In fact, think it is right to say that if you're a lower grunt'ish or rpm sort of rider, who likes a mix and match between off/on-road, the 1290 needs the oomph to be a decent match to 1250GS. Or the ATAS for that matter.
Almost all bikes have "flaws". Things we need to do for personal adjustments. Whether Honda, BMW, KTM or other. I always factor in or expect things to change, or add. Would think that applies to all or most riders?
I also liked ergonomics, disliked the seat, the fact that there's no adjustable mechanism for the wind screen, the overall fuel economy, and a few other things. Yet the list of things to like was indeed comprehensive. At the end of the day, one only knows what one knows, by personal experience. Often gained whilst inspired by listening to good riders and reviewers like yourself. Their real life experiences.
Maybe one day I'll choose the ATAS. It has a lot of compelling features. But this year (or next) a new creature will make it to the market A creature many expect much out of, or from. Thinking of Norden 901. It remains to be seen if indeed it will be a game changer, both a contender and fierce competitor to all the other creatures in the upper/middle adventure segment.
Spot on! Thanks for the comment. Wish you all the best and enjoy the 1290! Cristian
Yo me compré la Adventure Sports DTC y estoy encantado.
Great video again thanks :). I am sure the knobby tkc 80 causes the wobble at high speed. Could you please show us the routes you were riding on? Amazing.
Thank you. Check the Turkey trip video (the first video on this channel), I put the route in the pinned comment. Cristian
@@RacingandAdventure Cristian, god bless you! You are a star :)
Yeeeee😁 nice bike👍👍
If Honda increased even to a 20 liter tank giving you at least 350 to 375km range i would buy the adjustable screen from the sport model.
I always watch and enjoy your reports: I am considering Pan Am, AT, F850 and V85?
nice seat you have .did not know it can use for that .. good idee .
The seat of thiw bike is the reason why I sell it for a GS-ADV
Honda designed a smaller tank on this bike so you end up stopping more often to not feel the poorly made uncomfortable seat. Dude, @9:13 you were already out of gas!! I like to know if your drone is smart enough to follow you into those tunnels. LOL I subscribed to your NEW TH-cam channel, will you have your buddy with the eyeglasses on your channels too?
Thanks for subscribing. Yes, he is. Same team, new project. No, my drone would loose me over there.
is it the original Honda crash bars? Looks great in black. I have only seen silver and it looks just bad on a black bike. Great Job with your channels really appreciate it.
very informative
Beautiful bike. I agree with your review. What are your favorite Touring boots?
Hi, good video, are those the heed bunker crashbars?
I recommend my country to all motorcyclists.
That's the right thing. A nice country for riding.
Nice review from your travel with the Africa Twin. I like the standrad Red a lot and I´am a off road rider. You mean, the manuell gearbox with quickshifter is better for off road and gravel roads than the DCT? Thanks.
Great review. Wonder what aftermarket seats people are using.