best of luck mate you will smash it. the results wont define you either. we live in a different world now. you can do whatever you want, those grades might help get you a job but follow your passions in life and life will start working for you rather then the other way around.
I wish this video was posted yesterday before I burned through the clear on my window pillars!! Inexperience, fatigue, lack of discipline and unreasonable expectations ended up with gut-wrenching regret... Thanks Jon! I'll stick to the "set piece" for the rest of my detail.
Good for you. Not many people leaving school would have the confidence and ambition to do that. Hope it all turns out OK for you. 'Find a job you enjoy, and you'll never have to work a day in your life.'
@@terencejay8845 Yeah man, it's going well, getting in 2 or 3 cars in a week added on top maybe about 2 or 3 ceramic coatings a month, deffo more room to grow though, but I can't get ahead of myself just yet hahaha
I'm no longer new to detailing but am very much so to machine polishing, so a video like this is actually incredibly helpful thanks Jon. I have a few questions about machine polishing despite watching just about every video you have done on it and dozens of others by other well known detailers so I plan to raise them as a topic in the Community section of your Patreon Channel Jon. I've said it before and will keep saying it, your Patreon Channel is the very best $1.00 I spend each month, about 70p in the UK, what a bargain!
Thanks for the reminder to have patience when doing that first polish of the year. But Jon, please wear some protection for your hearing. That polisher is made even louder by the closeness of your garage. Good video and good health my friend.
Very simple and useful tips there Jon. As so many lads do watch your vid’s, please consider the eye protection when making them. You have a lot of influence and a great platform to encourage this. Eye damage can be life changing.
Good point Jon, I think I tend to rush sometimes on cars like modern bmws that have lots of angles and I should really change pad size to get in more and it all feels like it's taking an age.
I got my polisher out for the first time today (early birthday present ftw) after calming down from discovering some twunt had scraped my nearside front bumper. Hit the bonet up with the low cut pad and compound from Koch and I was really surprised at the results from it big scratches were left in but the results from just the baby cut and finish were incredible! Can't wait for a day where I've got nowt on to sort the rest of the body and tackle the deeper scratches.
Totally agree with you Jon. I've been wathing your tutorials regarding this matter for past 8 months, and finally last weekend did my first machine polishing (just a basic DA polisher). My car is couple of years old Mercedes C series and it has some light, really tiny swirls, which can be observed only in a pure sunlight. Otherwise the gloss and shine is good, but i wanted to get rid of those fine swirls, so i did exactly the recommended steps i.e. prewash, contact wash with neutral shampoo, chemical decon i.e. iron fallout removal with Korrosol and tar removal with Innova car's product, after that did claying with Bilthambers white clay with proper dedicated lubricant and when the drying was done, started the polishing stage. Unfortunately i chose flexipads blue with Scholl s40 and did the whole car with this combo. The inspection was made with my Iphone's light in my car shelter and did not find any swirls and scratches. I was happy and did put Turtle Wax's ceramic spray SiO2 sealant on. But the horrible reality emerged when i drove my car back to the sunlight and those swirls are now even more enhanced due to this silicon sealant or polishing. So I am asking what pad and Scholl combo i should use, so that i can get rid of those fine swirls thus point being that you have to have also proper abrasive and pad combo as well for each car which is in my case MB C250 2018.
finish it out with Koch P3 on a soft finishing pad. red flex or scholl black waffle. and buff away final polish and wax with in2detail korean yellow. I will demo this soon on black paint. big danger in summer is overloading paintwork with product, looks good in low light.. goes out into heavy sunlight and it can show smears and stuff you just could not see in low light. Koch P3 AIO nothing else. maintain with BH QD at 1:9 with DI water.. nothing but this.
@@forensicunplugged4295 OK thanks for this info, but when it comes to this Koch product series, you cannot find anything here in Finland (it seems that Scholl has taken an exclusive market leader role) so do you have any spesific recommendation for Scholl series. If not then from which web site i can order Koch Chemie series products then and by the way, it looked in low sunlight perfect with that wet look, but as soon as another day came by, the reality truly popped out to my eyes...
I’m Guilty as charged John. Recently tried to polish my whole car in one day. Looking at the car the following day the finish went from pretty damn good on the first panel to why did I bother on the last.
I have a Sakhir Orange BMW and been keen to get out the polisher to make it perfect. The hot weather really caught me by surprise on how it affects the results. Even with Menzerna 3800 and on Orange CG pad, it's left aweful holograms. I don't have the luxury of shade, so it was 23-25 degrees in the sun. They'll polish out easy enough, but just a pain. Live and learn I guess!!
lucky man :) nice car. Menz 3800 no way has this left hollograms. maybe on a rotary if you were running very rapid machine speeds even then though on a DA no way mate sorry... I think think you are not seeing buffer tails. I think you are seeing, greasey oily residue in the sun that you are not buffing off properly thats appears a bit like a buffer trail but Im just guessing.
Thanks so much for this Nugget JON.... I know this will be a prob for me as I like to rush lol... embarking on my 1st correction with KC minor and fine with respective pads on a near new Mazda... Hopefully this does the Job 🙏 and I can do it in 1 day
Hi John, are the cutting compounds and polisher better then the products you used in your video that you done a couple of years ago. I think it was the das 6 pro polisher using the scroll compounds? I’m a beginner and I’m looking to do some paint correction on my own vehicle. Regards Karl.
Hey Jon have you come across or used the new ShineMate cordless EB351 Polisher they have a few varieties....maybe a good video opptunities if shinemate or one of the detailing stores could let you test them I'm eager to learn more about them I've heard alot of good things about them
hi Jon, thanks for vids one of my customers thought it would be good and have a go at polishing his car after watching some you tube vids and save some money, WRONG ! I now have to correct his work which will proberly cost him more than if I did it in the first place, oh by the way it wasn't one of your vids that made him do it 😉👍
Good video mate!!... would love to see you buy a banger and just show us how you can bring the paint back to life !! Then raffle it off or something !!! Keep the content coming!!
problem is bangers need repainting and overhaulling mechanically mate. all these videos out there on you tube polishing cars up when there is rust and clearcoat missing are a lot of effort mainly to make videos for views but its not really real. detailing is more able looking after cars with good "base level" condition. You dont really detail bangers. You restore them and then detail them to maintain I guess.
5 inch main pad 3 inch mini and 1 inch spot. thats all I use (sometimes 6 inch on large cars). so I will bust out the PXE 3 inch for bumpers. Rest I will do with the 5 inch XCE. If Im using a free spinning corded combo with a 3 inch mini I would use the 3 inch mini more, but the PXe is a little bit down on power so I tend to save it for the softer plastic bumpers.
John have u got any videos on applying Wax with a DA. ? First time polishing last month doing my Ford custom finished with autoglym UHD wax . My arms honestly detached from my soul whirling that little applicator in circles 😂
I would not apply think paste was with a DA really. apply a water based emulsion wax or AIO by machine. all you need to the autoglym product is bigger applicator flex do a whopping big soft red applicator puck thing makes waxing a lot quicker once ou have the pickup of the wax on there.
Hi John, great video, i'm getting ready to give my car a machine polish, but as I cant get my car into the garage will have to do it on the drive, any tips for doing it safely outside? Cheers
pick a day when its cloudy but not rain and low wind mate, try and be organised and have a trolly or somewhere to keep those things you see me using to hand.
Do you not mask up around windows etc. ? I always do but maybe its just me.... hear what you say about rushing - i certainly have in the past. Go over with M2 afterwards jon ! 👌👌👌
not on this rear quarter section, the window surround is a painted finish. so you can just wipe off any polish if the pad hits it. but on rubber or something yes. saying that the horizonatal section you will see me masking up in another video because theres a lip and the polish can get stuck in it.
Absolutely right, If time is against you it will probably result in a poor finish, whatever you are doing....When will I learn from what I already know?....Crips is that the time, gotta go!
ive done the whole side of the car with this one soft pad and the AIO. normally though with cuting compounds and pure abrasives I would swap out after 10 sets maybe.. when they gunk up and start dusting too much. but you must brush out after every set. This AIO P3 is so fine is never dusts and it doesnt seem to cake up either because Im not removing much clear
@@forensicunplugged4295 thanks very much going to start detailing my g30 next week trying to get all my equipment in order, love your channel learnt so much from your videos top man.👍
@@forensicunplugged4295 i saw your review on the newer flex forced rotation polishers. It seems that the cordless option will finish better that te corded option
@@niktherd3 the cordless has the advance of no cord, which means not drapping it on the shoulder or tripping over it. it does not perform better than corded in fact your down on torque and power and it costs a lot more. but I love it. XCE that is. XFE does not have enough grunt.
Me thinks you need a car lift installation. It’s a disaster companies/organisations now what quantity and not quality. Instead of saying ‘fast as you can’ they now say ‘On Time’ and screw the customer. The Flex DA Cordless looks really balanced and you making it look effortless. The Warranty on Flex seems really good. Are going to put a couple coats of CQUK 3.0 and a coat of Gliss?
probably yer, a grand though. I can dual trolly jack up one side quicker and take the bars out. but yer the lifter its the next step up. one day who knows matt.
I tend to pair the XCE with the PXE because there is no cordless mini 3 inch with more grunt (event though the PXE is a cordles mini 3 inch but its a nano tool) so I find myself using the XCE with 150ml pad for most things and the PXE for bumpers, and pillars. I would not want to polish even a small car though with a 3inch mini. that would be hard work.
Do you actually recommend a 75/80mm over the 125 for one to do it all? I have a NA miata and a swift sport to polish... A friend who is a professional detailer can lend me a smaller polishing machine... But I prefer not to
@@forensicunplugged4295 yes I'll give you that Jon, after a bonnet and roof or two you would be bored as can be.... There is certainly a huge place for the 75mm polishers nowadays though compared to 10 years ago that's for sure
@@bradtyson yeah, fortunately my mk3 Swift sport has gentle shapes ( that's what I love about it ). The Miata is just a sailing boat without any edges, even a 200mm would be fine ahaha
Jesus, jon. Finals on friday and i still don't allow myself to miss out on a video. Wish me luck guys.
best of luck mate you will smash it. the results wont define you either. we live in a different world now. you can do whatever you want, those grades might help get you a job but follow your passions in life and life will start working for you rather then the other way around.
@@forensicunplugged4295 jon, when you were a kid they didnt even know youtube would exist....look at all the money people earning from it
As an apprentice I was always told "If a jobs with doing then do it once properly". Good video Jon👍
i love to take my time when polishing, working and working that polish into the clear, love the new oily compounds you can work and work
I wish this video was posted yesterday before I burned through the clear on my window pillars!!
Inexperience, fatigue, lack of discipline and unreasonable expectations ended up with gut-wrenching regret...
Thanks Jon! I'll stick to the "set piece" for the rest of my detail.
You seriously helped me leave school and go straight into starting my own business with detailing! thanks! its going quite well now too!
Good for you. Not many people leaving school would have the confidence and ambition to do that. Hope it all turns out OK for you. 'Find a job you enjoy, and you'll never have to work a day in your life.'
@@terencejay8845 Yeah man, it's going well, getting in 2 or 3 cars in a week added on top maybe about 2 or 3 ceramic coatings a month, deffo more room to grow though, but I can't get ahead of myself just yet hahaha
I cannot believe you only have 14.4 thousand subscribes. I’ve been enjoying your channel for quite a while now.
dont forget the main channel "forensic detailing channel" the unplugged channel is the potatoe cam budget behind the scenes version of it.
@@forensicunplugged4295 I am subscribed to it as well.
I'm no longer new to detailing but am very much so to machine polishing, so a video like this is actually incredibly helpful thanks Jon. I have a few questions about machine polishing despite watching just about every video you have done on it and dozens of others by other well known detailers so I plan to raise them as a topic in the Community section of your Patreon Channel Jon. I've said it before and will keep saying it, your Patreon Channel is the very best $1.00 I spend each month, about 70p in the UK, what a bargain!
thanks steve your a top guy, appreciate having you as a patreon.
Thanks for the reminder to have patience when doing that first polish of the year. But Jon, please wear some protection for your hearing. That polisher is made even louder by the closeness of your garage. Good video and good health my friend.
its not loud enough to cause me problems really. cordless XCE is a nice low noise machine.
It’s the eye protection that leaps out to me every time. Lose or damage your sight, no way back, it’s life changing.
the fastest way to wash your car properly is to take your time! same for anything really.
Very simple and useful tips there Jon. As so many lads do watch your vid’s, please consider the eye protection when making them. You have a lot of influence and a great platform to encourage this. Eye damage can be life changing.
Eye protection for what exactly?
Good point Jon, I think I tend to rush sometimes on cars like modern bmws that have lots of angles and I should really change pad size to get in more and it all feels like it's taking an age.
Yes use the cleanser polish as we want to know how to use more BH products properly.
Also make sure you keep your back straight and use your knees, otherwise you will end in a lot of pain :)
yer Im awefull at managing posture really bad.
@@forensicunplugged4295 I'm usually broken after a solid day 😢 one of the main reasons I can't do it for a living
Same for me here. I wonder if there ever was a video here on working ergonomically?
Jon, use the PXE80, on the bottom, it makes it really easy because its so light.
I got my polisher out for the first time today (early birthday present ftw) after calming down from discovering some twunt had scraped my nearside front bumper. Hit the bonet up with the low cut pad and compound from Koch and I was really surprised at the results from it big scratches were left in but the results from just the baby cut and finish were incredible! Can't wait for a day where I've got nowt on to sort the rest of the body and tackle the deeper scratches.
you wont generally be able to take out big scratches.. remember your clearcoat is about 40-50 microns thick. Thats like dividing a millimeter by 20.
Totally agree with you Jon. I've been wathing your tutorials regarding this matter for past 8 months, and finally last weekend did my first machine polishing (just a basic DA polisher). My car is couple of years old Mercedes C series and it has some light, really tiny swirls, which can be observed only in a pure sunlight. Otherwise the gloss and shine is good, but i wanted to get rid of those fine swirls, so i did exactly the recommended steps i.e. prewash, contact wash with neutral shampoo, chemical decon i.e. iron fallout removal with Korrosol and tar removal with Innova car's product, after that did claying with Bilthambers white clay with proper dedicated lubricant and when the drying was done, started the polishing stage. Unfortunately i chose flexipads blue with Scholl s40 and did the whole car with this combo. The inspection was made with my Iphone's light in my car shelter and did not find any swirls and scratches. I was happy and did put Turtle Wax's ceramic spray SiO2 sealant on. But the horrible reality emerged when i drove my car back to the sunlight and those swirls are now even more enhanced due to this silicon sealant or polishing. So I am asking what pad and Scholl combo i should use, so that i can get rid of those fine swirls thus point being that you have to have also proper abrasive and pad combo as well for each car which is in my case MB C250 2018.
Scholl S30 or S20 will do it for sure and maybe step up to a pad with more bite. Hope that helps
finish it out with Koch P3 on a soft finishing pad. red flex or scholl black waffle. and buff away final polish and wax with in2detail korean yellow. I will demo this soon on black paint. big danger in summer is overloading paintwork with product, looks good in low light.. goes out into heavy sunlight and it can show smears and stuff you just could not see in low light. Koch P3 AIO nothing else. maintain with BH QD at 1:9 with DI water.. nothing but this.
@@forensicunplugged4295 OK thanks for this info, but when it comes to this Koch product series, you cannot find anything here in Finland (it seems that Scholl has taken an exclusive market leader role) so do you have any spesific recommendation for Scholl series. If not then from which web site i can order Koch Chemie series products then and by the way, it looked in low sunlight perfect with that wet look, but as soon as another day came by, the reality truly popped out to my eyes...
@@kevinb7058 Thanks , i was thinking of Scholl S20 black with more course pad
I’m Guilty as charged John. Recently tried to polish my whole car in one day. Looking at the car the following day the finish went from pretty damn good on the first panel to why did I bother on the last.
I have a Sakhir Orange BMW and been keen to get out the polisher to make it perfect. The hot weather really caught me by surprise on how it affects the results. Even with Menzerna 3800 and on Orange CG pad, it's left aweful holograms. I don't have the luxury of shade, so it was 23-25 degrees in the sun. They'll polish out easy enough, but just a pain. Live and learn I guess!!
lucky man :) nice car. Menz 3800 no way has this left hollograms. maybe on a rotary if you were running very rapid machine speeds even then though on a DA no way mate sorry... I think think you are not seeing buffer tails. I think you are seeing, greasey oily residue in the sun that you are not buffing off properly thats appears a bit like a buffer trail but Im just guessing.
Thanks so much for this Nugget JON.... I know this will be a prob for me as I like to rush lol... embarking on my 1st correction with KC minor and fine with respective pads on a near new Mazda... Hopefully this does the Job 🙏 and I can do it in 1 day
Excellent instructions as always!
Hi John, are the cutting compounds and polisher better then the products you used in your video that you done a couple of years ago. I think it was the das 6 pro polisher using the scroll compounds? I’m a beginner and I’m looking to do some paint correction on my own vehicle. Regards Karl.
Hey Jon have you come across or used the new ShineMate cordless EB351 Polisher they have a few varieties....maybe a good video opptunities if shinemate or one of the detailing stores could let you test them
I'm eager to learn more about them I've heard alot of good things about them
hi Jon, thanks for vids one of my customers thought it would be good and have a go at polishing his car after watching some you tube vids and save some money, WRONG ! I now have to correct his work which will proberly cost him more than if I did it in the first place, oh by the way it wasn't one of your vids that made him do it 😉👍
lovely camera work over the shoulder reach-around jon ;) lol hahaha
Good video mate!!...
would love to see you buy a banger and just show us how you can bring the paint back to life !! Then raffle it off or something !!!
Keep the content coming!!
problem is bangers need repainting and overhaulling mechanically mate. all these videos out there on you tube polishing cars up when there is rust and clearcoat missing are a lot of effort mainly to make videos for views but its not really real. detailing is more able looking after cars with good "base level" condition. You dont really detail bangers. You restore them and then detail them to maintain I guess.
I made that mistake , half way through I got tired and lazy and started to do my passes quicker and cover big areas
Hi if your cutting would you not use different size pads on the areas like arches etc an not go over peaks etc ??
5 inch main pad 3 inch mini and 1 inch spot. thats all I use (sometimes 6 inch on large cars). so I will bust out the PXE 3 inch for bumpers. Rest I will do with the 5 inch XCE.
If Im using a free spinning corded combo with a 3 inch mini I would use the 3 inch mini more, but the PXe is a little bit down on power so I tend to save it for the softer plastic bumpers.
John have u got any videos on applying Wax with a DA. ? First time polishing last month doing my Ford custom finished with autoglym UHD wax . My arms honestly detached from my soul whirling that little applicator in circles 😂
I would not apply think paste was with a DA really. apply a water based emulsion wax or AIO by machine. all you need to the autoglym product is bigger applicator flex do a whopping big soft red applicator puck thing makes waxing a lot quicker once ou have the pickup of the wax on there.
@@forensicunplugged4295 I will get one on order , all the best
Hi John, great video, i'm getting ready to give my car a machine polish, but as I cant get my car into the garage will have to do it on the drive, any tips for doing it safely outside? Cheers
pick a day when its cloudy but not rain and low wind mate, try and be organised and have a trolly or somewhere to keep those things you see me using to hand.
I’m the same so I bought a detailing gazebo
@@ptheledge5390 hi out of interest was it expensive
@@forensicunplugged4295 thanks John 👍
Do you not mask up around windows etc. ? I always do but maybe its just me.... hear what you say about rushing - i certainly have in the past. Go over with M2 afterwards jon ! 👌👌👌
not on this rear quarter section, the window surround is a painted finish. so you can just wipe off any polish if the pad hits it. but on rubber or something yes. saying that the horizonatal section you will see me masking up in another video because theres a lip and the polish can get stuck in it.
Never enough time John. I wash the car and 10 mins later the missus wants to go somewhere, it's never still enough to do the stuff I want to do to it
Jon, it sounded like you were using the Forced Rotation Flex Cool Cordless? My personal favorite :)
XCE yes mate cordless awesome isnt it.
@@forensicunplugged4295 i dont care for the XFE, pad always stalling out drive me nuts
Whats the best hoover to have please
The other golden rule is keep your pads clean and switch often
Slow is smooth…and smooth is fast.
Absolutely right, If time is against you it will probably result in a poor finish, whatever you are doing....When will I learn from what I already know?....Crips is that the time, gotta go!
Bilt Hamber factory tour WHEN?
i will try and see if its possible.
How many pads do you roughly use on each panel mate?
ive done the whole side of the car with this one soft pad and the AIO. normally though with cuting compounds and pure abrasives I would swap out after 10 sets maybe.. when they gunk up and start dusting too much. but you must brush out after every set. This AIO P3 is so fine is never dusts and it doesnt seem to cake up either because Im not removing much clear
what pad do you use with the koch chemie m2.01 ?
i would recomend flex orange most times, or on really soft paint the flex red.
@@forensicunplugged4295 thanks very much going to start detailing my g30 next week trying to get all my equipment in order, love your channel learnt so much from your videos top man.👍
Was that a free spinning or forced rotation tool?
force rotation XCE mate i think its just a better all round tool than the XFE or at least you can cut quicker with it.
@@forensicunplugged4295 i saw your review on the newer flex forced rotation polishers. It seems that the cordless option will finish better that te corded option
@@niktherd3 the cordless has the advance of no cord, which means not drapping it on the shoulder or tripping over it. it does not perform better than corded in fact your down on torque and power and it costs a lot more. but I love it. XCE that is. XFE does not have enough grunt.
Me thinks you need a car lift installation. It’s a disaster companies/organisations now what quantity and not quality. Instead of saying ‘fast as you can’ they now say ‘On Time’ and screw the customer. The Flex DA Cordless looks really balanced and you making it look effortless. The Warranty on Flex seems really good. Are going to put a couple coats of CQUK 3.0 and a coat of Gliss?
no ceramic mate :) just wax
You should get those portable hydraulic lifts
probably yer, a grand though. I can dual trolly jack up one side quicker and take the bars out. but yer the lifter its the next step up. one day who knows matt.
@@forensicunplugged4295 yeah alot of money but probably worth it for the amount of stuff you do on your cars
@@forensicunplugged4295 maybe a sponsored video would facilitate one 🤔
You deserve it now :) channel investment, purchase. Install. Great videos.
To me it seems a 75/80mm polisher will do 90% of modern cars better and quicker than a 100/125/150mm
I tend to pair the XCE with the PXE because there is no cordless mini 3 inch with more grunt (event though the PXE is a cordles mini 3 inch but its a nano tool) so I find myself using the XCE with 150ml pad for most things and the PXE for bumpers, and pillars. I would not want to polish even a small car though with a 3inch mini. that would be hard work.
Do you actually recommend a 75/80mm over the 125 for one to do it all? I have a NA miata and a swift sport to polish... A friend who is a professional detailer can lend me a smaller polishing machine... But I prefer not to
@@LucaBonato no haha it was a bit of hyperbole. But not far off with the amount of angles and shapes on the newer cars IMO
@@forensicunplugged4295 yes I'll give you that Jon, after a bonnet and roof or two you would be bored as can be....
There is certainly a huge place for the 75mm polishers nowadays though compared to 10 years ago that's for sure
@@bradtyson yeah, fortunately my mk3 Swift sport has gentle shapes ( that's what I love about it ). The Miata is just a sailing boat without any edges, even a 200mm would be fine ahaha
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I have no garage so I going to have to pay someone