The Borderlands 4 Situation Is Stupid...

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  • @busnessman2148
    @busnessman2148 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    I was going in with the mindset that they look the way they do due to their lore/upbringing, like they look like nobodies because THEY ARE nobodies if that makes any sense

    • @pablocolo7655
      @pablocolo7655 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They remind me to the original bd1 vault hunters if it makes any sense

    • @travis7050
      @travis7050 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes bro literally this. I think from the gameplay and dark elements we saw they fit perfectly.

    • @ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna
      @ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a mighty fine excuse for the developers to put in less effort. Bungie mindset.

  • @pelusa4108
    @pelusa4108 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    i just hope they have another killer tune for the main menu

  • @ChandlerRobinsonCRV
    @ChandlerRobinsonCRV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

    Salvador is literally just a dude in tshirt and jeans lol

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      THIS TO THE MOON

    • @Weponizer
      @Weponizer 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Not wrong I've never understood how he was a vault hunter all the other ones had some sort of special skill or unique item and then there's Salvador just using two guns in a T-shirt

    • @sprite-consumer7677
      @sprite-consumer7677 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      I mean yeah sure but he has a lot more features to him that make him distinct. The jeans and t-shirt are actually a good way of displaying his character in comparison to someone like axton who clearly has military combat gear. Salvador isn’t a trained assassin or soldier, he’s just a guy who likes killing and looting and it’s cool. Plus the bright orange of his shirt, dark blue Mohawk and beard and stout frame are all very defining features that set him apart from the others. In all previous games each vault hunter looks like they come from somewhere different, something I can’t say for this new roster. They all look like they come straight from a cyberpunk city

    • @ChandlerRobinsonCRV
      @ChandlerRobinsonCRV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@sprite-consumer7677 reading this makes me think the vh in this one might know each other before the events of the game start just because they kind of look like theyre from the same place.

    • @Banditnova
      @Banditnova 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah but still rememberable

  • @milagrosgutierrezmartin9506
    @milagrosgutierrezmartin9506 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fourth lady does looks engineer-ish, but you do know what she reminds me off with the huge pants, gloves and tubes? A Maliwan soldier. And there's been an ex-corpo soldier in every game, so maybe she's an ex-Maliwan trooper, and as her action skill she could get the abilities they had, like the super dash, or flamethrowers, or a shield, etc.

  • @coltonwilkie241
    @coltonwilkie241 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think the characters look fine. Plus there's always customization options to change their looks a bit. Hopefully it's a deeper customization system than just new head pieces and clothing colours too.

  • @marqueseason6360
    @marqueseason6360 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    There will always be people who just can't be satisfied. What type of design were they expecting?? I'll bet they can't tell you because these people are not looking for answers....there are looking for issues.

    • @zekite6467
      @zekite6467 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ill give one, contrast and more color. Perhaps a robotic option like fl4k and Zero. One example in this trailer is the gold girl, she has more color and aesthetic appeal than any of the VH's

    • @Darthmonk864
      @Darthmonk864 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@zekite6467see that's the problem. It all boils down to individual personal preference. I've said it before but I have never enjoyed the look of more than one vault hunter in any borderlands and I have felt that way since the first game released. To me personally if there was a character who looked like the golden girl it would be my least favorite design. I think that's way too over the top and odd looking. Since 2 I've always used customization to improve the look of the other hunters and it's never bothered me. This whole thing is such a straw man argument and overreaction. Borderlands 3 was still an incredibly successful game as well as Tiny Tina's. I have no doubt in my mind that as long as the gameplay is good this whole thing is going to be forgotten about months after release. The only thing that could genuinely hurt the game is if the gameplay itself suffers. Because even with people not enjoying the writing of 3 it was still a major success and reviewed mostly exceptionally well by fans and critics.

    • @zekite6467
      @zekite6467 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Darthmonk864 I get your poiint and yes this is a FPS, so realistically it shouldn't matter too much. But that said despite it being an FPS design of the characters has been iconic in this game, and keeping that standard is important. However, when you take into account that VH's are going to be involved in cutscenes in this game, its not fair to compare it to the previous titles, it seems ironically the design will be more important in this game than any of the previous titles. That in tandem with the fact that the overwhelming consensus of fans regardless of time played or political affiliation is dulled by the designs, its shows its more than just preference and not a recipe for success.
      While BL3 was a solid game, its also true that since 2 every consecutive title ahs been trending downwards in ratings from 3-WNDLS-Tales2 and the movie, its more reason why the fans seem more hypercritical as their overall optimism for the franchise has decreased. I wouldn't call it a strawman because its a genuine criticism, an overreaction it could be.

    • @ryudhal
      @ryudhal 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Darthmonk864I'm sorry did you just say "it's all personal opinion" then in the same comment say that people are overreacting? Did it ever occur to you that people's opinions are just as valid as yours? And that if you really think it's fine then there's no reason to bitch and moan about people bitching and moaning? I never understood this argument. It's so silly. Noone is forcing you to hate these designs the same way noone should be forced to pretend they like them. Why is it "just personal opinion" if it suits your opinion but "overreacting and strawman" if it doesn't?

  • @1979LASSA
    @1979LASSA 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    The Siren is Emily Swan. Appears in presequel echos. Escape from Elpis after the watcher heal her.

    • @milagrosgutierrezmartin9506
      @milagrosgutierrezmartin9506 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Would be pretty cool. I've also heard the theory that she's somehow a "fake" siren, and that she's using eridium to forcibly awaken those powers, and that's why she's got those canisters in her wrist, and why her tatts are purple instead of the usual blue

    • @Roben647
      @Roben647 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amazing I have to check out the echos

    • @1979LASSA
      @1979LASSA 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@milagrosgutierrezmartin9506 Swann was sick. Her mother saw the watcher several times in her room, until one day she saw a purple glow, and the girl was healed. That could be where the purple tattoos that this Siren has come from, and not blue as usual. In addition, it seems as if her bracelet is administering eridium to her. And that is why her tattoos are sometimes visible and other times not.

  • @darionmcclinton351
    @darionmcclinton351 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    They act like we can't change the skin and heads. Not one person has ever kept the original look of a VH so why are y'all bitching

    • @Myles-q8h
      @Myles-q8h 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      I don’t like the change the skin argument. That just gives companies the excuse to continue promoting bad base character design so they can sell you a skin to fix it. Now I bet once we get gameplay and start playing the game ourselves. We will start to like the characters but that doesn’t change the fact that people will think they have bad base character designs.

    • @nerdynina4734
      @nerdynina4734 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      plus I was hoping for another robot , I main Zer0 and Fl4k. I didn't bother with borderlands 1 those characters were boring as well

    • @jasonmendoza2044
      @jasonmendoza2044 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Literally nothing can ever come out and not have massive backlash nowadays, it’s like these negative fools are just addicted to the feeling of “calling” companies on shit and being overly critical. Baffles the hell out of me, spoiled entitled mf’ers

    • @jasonmendoza2044
      @jasonmendoza2044 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Myles-q8hjust because a loud amount of people say they’re bad doesn’t equal bad tho.

    • @timhallsounds
      @timhallsounds 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Myles-q8hit’s first person not third….

  • @Ninjabro435
    @Ninjabro435 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    The devs said that they are going to focus on the vault hunters more so i hope they give the new vault hunters the sauce they're missing by developing them through out the story

    • @thebroskies4209
      @thebroskies4209 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Need to bring back dlc vhs and not dlc skill tree

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      COMPLETELY agree

    • @marquisepixley684
      @marquisepixley684 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@thebroskies4209I want both

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, stop

  • @rickywalter6707
    @rickywalter6707 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Personally, I'm not here to start drama or whatever on what the new vault hunters look like. But I do miss the days when Borderlands had a Mad Max-styled atmosphere. This was especially noticeable in the first BL game. I miss those days. : (
    Now it's too much robot, sci-fi cyberpunk copy paste stuff.

    • @cor4550
      @cor4550 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah I know what you mean BL1 was the mad max, BL2 is to me old west especially the music, 3 felt like cyberpunk even the menu screen music almost sound like synth wave music

    • @rickywalter6707
      @rickywalter6707 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cor4550 Yep, that's right. I enjoyed the first two games so much. Sad to see the series may not possibly ever return to its roots.

    • @6ghastlyghoul9
      @6ghastlyghoul9 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rickywalter6707the majority probably don’t want those themes. Trend analysis and all that

    • @rickywalter6707
      @rickywalter6707 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@6ghastlyghoul9 I understand that, but obviously not all trends are good and reoccurring trends get tiresome. BL3 and even BL2 already had a good amount of cyberpunk stuff.

  • @LordBlue1314
    @LordBlue1314 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think the siren might have Tyrone‘s power because her tattoos were also purple and when she died at the end of the game, someone else gained her power like with Ava and Maya

  • @Tundraic
    @Tundraic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I believe (or hope) that the reason why the characters in the BL4 trailer look bland is because it'll have a character customization. One thing I always loved about borderlands is you could kinda guess what the character's personality, class and abilities will be by just looking at them. Also, I think most people are disappointed because we're used to having really unique and cool looking vault hunters that people would attach to based on just looks, and you can't really do it here because they all look pretty basic IMO.
    It is a 1st person game after all, so I'm not that bothered. Just hope their voicelines are bearable to listen.

  • @TiimoFei
    @TiimoFei 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think, that BL4 will have 2 new game mechanics. First is the equipable melee weapons (from Tiny Tina Wonderlands), and second is more verticality - maybe even flight. So based on that, my predictions about new Vault Hunters:
    1) Skinny guy will be Zer0\Wilhelm analog with body modifications and fast melee assassin gameplay
    2) Siren will be summoner or just regular Soldier class with siren powers
    3) Big guy will be the Salvador analog, but with melee weapons
    4) Girl with glasses will be all about flight and shooting from the air. Maybe even drone summoner.

    • @Zoidberryable
      @Zoidberryable 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Holy crap, like her jetpack is part of her action skill? A flight mode with aerial movement and attacks would be so awesome! The Siren being a pet summoner would be pretty unique as well

  • @evergreenoaktree
    @evergreenoaktree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for being one of the only voices of reason amid all this nontroversy BS. Being a fan who actually enjoys things is mentally exhausting, doubly so when a fan of Borderlands

  • @Weponizer
    @Weponizer 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I left a comment on a video yesterday saying that it's practically the same thing with all the other previous Borderlands characters, they don't look that special, and even then their base looks. Don't that matter because within five seconds of you starting the game, you're going to customize them, you're never really going to see the base version of them anyway, so what does it matter also the guy on the far left I don't know he looks familiar to me he kind of gives me troy vibes for some reason I don't know why

    • @Creepymoose135
      @Creepymoose135 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I feel like anyone making a big deal out of this either are grifters or genuinely lost the plot and needs to touch grass. There is no other possibilities.

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly!!

    • @AdamSlander888
      @AdamSlander888 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Zer0 exists, maya, krieg, flak, Amara, Athena, all of them exist. I have never once looked at them and said “yeah those look real fucking generic”

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AdamSlander888 Exactly.. Now people wanna say shi bout these characters, and skin color

    • @AdamSlander888
      @AdamSlander888 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SadistAssist these characters look generic. They look like shit. The skin color remarks are racist and unwarranted. That however does not take away from the fact these characters are generic and look like you could and would likely find them in the saints row remake

  • @SiegeOC
    @SiegeOC 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great breakdown of the characters. Excited to learn more about them all. Personally leading towards the siren or the melee crit guy. Gives me Zer0 vibes and you know how I feel about him lol 🔥

  • @ttripathy5664
    @ttripathy5664 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    Honestly realizing that social media has completely ruined the perception of games and hype for upcoming titles.
    Everyone i know personally who has played BL thinks bl4 looks sick, and yeah the VH do look generic but who cares when their action skills will probably be really well designed as it was in 3. People really hate online for no reason and forget to enjoy things. Nice video btw

    • @adamjenson9369
      @adamjenson9369 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Devs ruined the perception of video games by leasing multiple terrible games.

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      There’s plenty of reasons to hate bud.

    • @nightsmaysushi83
      @nightsmaysushi83 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      everyone i know irl says the game looks like shit meanwhile im slightly hyped lol

    • @MinecraftSteve-fe9kq
      @MinecraftSteve-fe9kq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      this has to be rage bait, bro look at them and then look at borderlands 3 vault hunters, its night and day. the big guy with the beard looks cool but his action skill looks lame

    • @trevorwalsh7196
      @trevorwalsh7196 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MinecraftSteve-fe9kqevery character is gonna have like 3 or 4 actions skills just like in 3

  • @charlesmcfadden9858
    @charlesmcfadden9858 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Personally, I think the biggest problem with the character design is that they are not creative. To me it feels like they took the previous VH and mashed them together instead of making something new. The guy on the left is literally just zane reskin, the siren looks like ava and mose put together, the big guy just looks like willhelm and brick had a baby, and the girl on the end is just kinda boring. Seems like the devs are loosing the art style of the OG games, these characters look like they belong in fortnite or valorant

    • @molerm9442
      @molerm9442 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The big guy and the Asian girl look kind of cool still look unoriginal the girl reminds me of cyber punk and the big guy overwatch inspired the action skills look cool which is more important but the characters looking bland and uninspired is not unreasonable criticism

    • @nerfherder33
      @nerfherder33 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go cry everyone a river and learn to reserve judgement until the game is out. Personally i don't give a shit what they look like. I care about how they feel to play and their unique mechanics. We got a long ways to go yet princess so sit back and just relax.

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As if the others were better stupid

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep, agreed. I think they also lack history. They look like each other. The universe is huge, why do they have similar looks? Where is the character?

  • @alphaskys0129
    @alphaskys0129 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The problem I feel with these characters as a borderlands veteran is the characters simply lack display of personality. The characters in the past were much better at this. One of my favorite examples is Amara from BL3. You get a very rough vibe and can tell she’s a brawler from her design from the biker jacket to the scars from having her lip split open in fist fights. A lot of people look at Axton and compare him to the the new character but even with axton you can sense that he was once a soldier whose been resorted to mercenary work in the chaotic world of borderlands. Although he’s dirtied up he still has a cleaner haircut likely from his days back in the military. Using the girl on the right as a prime example here. She has glasses. This on its own isn’t a problem but the issue stems from the aesthetic of how clean the characters themselves are in such a chaotic world. Her glasses don’t have any tape wire or glue holding them together. The lenses aren’t cracked. They’re just fine. And in the world of borderlands it just doesn’t feel realistic for such a chaotic world. The characters on the left has those really cool swords for his ability but when you look at him without them on there’s no sign of anything like that ever even being there. There’s nothing on his person at all that would not only signify that he has such cool tech at his disposal but that he’s carrying himself so poorly it’s surprising he has access to anything like that at all. The characters look like they’ve been living care free in a crazy world and it really takes away from the entirety of what borderlands just is.

    • @dmgdrunkenmultiplayergamin5631
      @dmgdrunkenmultiplayergamin5631 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is the best description ive found explaining why these characters are considered bland. I equate character design in borderlands to TF2 character designs. Theyre always dynamic even when standing still and their silhouettes stand out amongst the 4 vault hunters in every game up to this point. So to see 3 characters have similar body types and heights kinda hurts the design of them all. The most unique one out of the new 4 is brick 2.0 which is a shame considering how cool past designs have been.

    • @alossforwordswastaken
      @alossforwordswastaken 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you DO realize that borderlands doesn’t take place in a post apocalyptic universe and that the majority of it is actually fine? pandora is just a blasted wasteland of a planet turned into a mad max like hellscape.

    • @alphaskys0129
      @alphaskys0129 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ Oh for sure we’ve seen a handful of planets plagued with bandits, some with horrendous monsters so far, some with relics of an ancient alien race long before us, and planets that were peaceful before war ravaged them. It still doesn’t change the fact that it doesn’t make much sense the very people on the forefront of all of those things would somehow not have the scars to reflect it.

    • @alossforwordswastaken
      @alossforwordswastaken 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alphaskys0129 we’ve only seen one planet plagued with bandits and that’s pandora. the only times we’ve seen bandits on other planets were because they were sent there FROM pandora. prometheus, eden 6, athena, etc. only had issues with them because they were being attacked. everything was normal and peaceful before that. there are places in this universe that don’t see constant combat and bloodshed and that should also be reflected.

    • @alphaskys0129
      @alphaskys0129 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@alossforwordswastaken I can agree with this but this has very little to nothing to do with Vault Hunters. I couldnt care less how bandits themselfs got to planets or if some of the monsters weve seen were born there or not. I care that we have a cast of 4 characters that all have gadgetry specifically to survive while in pursuits of the vault and theyre all extremely clean. Youve clearly lost the point of vault hunters with the idea that they COULDVE been born on a peaceful planet. They absolutely could have. No one disagreed with this. What people dont like is theres nothing very unique about these characters that shows much personality in the slightest.

  • @dabloodynine
    @dabloodynine 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I learned a long time ago that this is one of the whiniest fanbases in gaming so it doesn't surprise me that folks are crying about literally nothing. Regardless, I can't wait to play the game

  • @meta3323
    @meta3323 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I liked this video, you just got a sub. Cant wait to see you cover all BL4 content! I will be playing the big buff guy aswell!

  • @MentalMars
    @MentalMars 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    initially, I wasn't blown away by the character design but I'm going in trying to analyze everything in the trailer. After watching the trailer a couple of times the new Vault Hunter started to grow on me. Also, I'm not a fan of melee action skills. I do think that the previous games presented their playable characters better. You can argue about the first scene but I don't think that really matters. To your point, yes we didn't learn everything about the borderlands 3 vault Hunter but we did get to see their main features. This one uses turrets, mech, drones, magic, pets, etc. And then, we later learned how they actually used those abilities but we did had a bigger initial vibe check at the start.

  • @majorxdf
    @majorxdf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I would be more worried about the writing. The writers from 3 are baaack!

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I can agree with you on pacing and placement, but they did great with the lore. Also the same writers did Wonderlands and that had a phenomenal story.

    • @Roark787
      @Roark787 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Alright. That's convincing enough for me to not bother.

    • @mikemerchant9242
      @mikemerchant9242 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also when you remember how the tales from the borderlands game tie in to the story and what a dumpster fire the last one was thing don't look to good.

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not written by the same people and likely isn’t cannon because of its poor reception. Y’all need to just chill until the game actually launches lmao

    • @Orangetoastsss
      @Orangetoastsss 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Byrdmanbro you need a hit puberty first then you can talk ok 😏

  • @itsKimi
    @itsKimi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    you're right... it's stupid because gearbox is a multi millions company and they can't make interesting character designs anymore. nor write good stories. they should be better. they should do better.

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shut up

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shut up bih

    • @Darthmonk864
      @Darthmonk864 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro, you are such a loser. Lmao game isn't even out and you've already panned it because YOU don't personally like the way characters look. Whether you like it or not Borderlands 3 was a critical success and by far the best entry into the franchise in terms of pure gameplay whether you enjoyed the story or writing or not. It's successful and still has an audience and player base. Doesnt matter if you like the direction they took it if the game still sells and is reviewed overwhelmingly positively on any review platform. It's such a lame ass take to boil it down to, "Oooo the company is bad and you personally deserve better because something didn't make you happy." Real bad games don't sell well or succeed financially. And all this is ignoring the fact that customization of vault hunters is a core part of borderlands and has been since Borderlands 2 and you're not going to see the default character look past the first quarter of the game anyways hahaha. Or the fact that its definitely nostalgia fueling you to believe the character designs of 2 were perfect, you could Argue that Axton and Salvador were both uninteresting and that Maya is barely a step above character design of this current siren and arguably less visually interesting. If you don't like something though, speak with your wallet instead of being annoying online.

    • @evergreenoaktree
      @evergreenoaktree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're wrong and a simpleton

    • @itsKimi
      @itsKimi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@evergreenoaktree says you

  • @pennygirl015
    @pennygirl015 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    I love how from a still shot of Borderlands 3 characters you'd have no idea what someone like Mozes action skill is. Yet now shes one of the most popular VHs ever. We should withhold judgement until we know what they do, personalities, etc.

    • @trevorwalsh7196
      @trevorwalsh7196 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@FF8Irvine_Fanwould you know what salvador or zero did in borderlands 2 just looking at them?
      I’d bet you’d never guess Sal dual wields guns or that zero turns invis with a clone.

    • @Glorpious5
      @Glorpious5 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I mean she generally looks like a soldier specifically “tank girl” with that bucket helmet so I always assumed she was heavy artillery or at least another automated turret styled character which a mech is just a Pokémon evolution of.

    • @Glorpious5
      @Glorpious5 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@trevorwalsh7196Sal has bullet tattoos on his biceps and a bunch of bandoliers and bulllets strapped to him so In hindsight his ability set does correlate. Zero quite obviously looks like a cyborg ninja so a holgram to sneak up on enemies unseen does not at all confuse me

    • @pennygirl015
      @pennygirl015 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Obviously, but you can do that with the new Vault Hunters too with the exception of the left guy. I’m talking about action skills, personalities, and stuff like that.

    • @Glorpious5
      @Glorpious5 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pennygirl015 The new siren just looks like a sexy skinny lady. She got the fem fatal thing going on but also is kinda bundled up in the big coat like a wizard. She looks maybe kinda angry in the trailer or maybe like cynical “everyone is an idiot but me” sort of deal. There is no way you’ll guess her action skill though, nothing she presents in her design tells me anything about her skill set. We at least knew for a fact Amara would use her physical prowess to enhance her siren capability through that muscular build (I.e. punching, slamming, etc). Big guy is “big guy” so probably also a physical fighter or heavy ordinance (he was using those tomahawks so more specifically, tech Viking) He’s always got this dopey smile on his face so maybe he’s a battle hungry idiot. Right girl is a mechanic or scientist, she’s got that harness thing moze had. So jet pack maybe. Glasses say she’s probably smart. I can kinda see the vibes they’re going for with these guys but we’ll have to wait until a real action skill reveal. Even still haven’t really mentioned how their color pallete shape language kinda sucks compared to older titles

  • @MADOYS
    @MADOYS 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I dont get why people trash the entire cast when it's just 2 outliers.
    Siren is hot, Big guy is gigachad similiar to Brick and Wilhelm.
    It's just the two New Tales type characters being a thorn in the eye

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They look straight out of Portland

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Femtoisbackandbetter-g1byesssss. Like they got out of a cafe and are scared of getting their shoes dirty while telling ne about how i need to save the environment. They keep the siren chick around because shes a "rebel" whos "against the system" as she gets into her friends porshe, dies a bump of the dash, and complains that lifes unfair.
      Clean, manicured, soft, boring, no history.

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Femtoisbackandbetter-g1byessss. They looke like they got out of a cafe and are scared of getting their shoes dirty while telling me about the environment. They keep the siren around because shes a "rebel who wants down with the system." as she get into her friends porshe, does a bump off the dash, and says lifes unfair.

    • @rickywalter6707
      @rickywalter6707 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b Nah I can do you one better. The other two vault hunters look like generic citizens from Promethea.

    • @AdamSlander888
      @AdamSlander888 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@rickywalter6707they all look like generic citizens from Promethea

  • @alossforwordswastaken
    @alossforwordswastaken 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what if the character designs change depending on how you build your character? like exo sword dude could either be a walking whirlwind of death tank or a slimmed down hit and run assassin depending on what skill tree you go down. maybe the big dude could either look more like a traditional viking warrior or full on cyborg.

  • @bruhgamer7479
    @bruhgamer7479 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great point, I was hung up on how grey and brown the color palette of the guy on the left and the girl on the right and how boring their outfits look. I totally forgot about how bl3 let you swap around the color pallets, excited to experiment with what I wish their default costumes looked like

  • @chrisofblades5167
    @chrisofblades5167 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Classes look terrible, BL2 had bedt characters.

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I mean Salvador is just a short dude with t-shirt and Axton has the most basic soldier design ever. Trust I think it’s gonna work out.

    • @Imnotgonnaquit
      @Imnotgonnaquit 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, but be careful or he'll ban you.

    • @Imnotgonnaquit
      @Imnotgonnaquit 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Byrdman Quit lying. He literally has bandoliers, tattoos and ammo pouches ALL OVER HIM. Also, Axton is SUPPOSED to be "normal". He's the normal one of the group, and that's reflected in his gameplay.

  • @thesoffen48
    @thesoffen48 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everybody crapped on the Borderlands 3 characters when they were released as well. Plus, with the skins that have been in every game, you can change the way they look.

  • @Bannockburn111
    @Bannockburn111 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice to hear a voice of reason standiing out amongst all the hate-mongers (who have been BLOCKED from my TH-cam feed). Thanks - I'm now subbed to your channel.

  • @rulerasmodeus
    @rulerasmodeus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think the siren is most likely Emily swan who was talked about in some echoes in pre sequel

  • @OpticOlympus
    @OpticOlympus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    The only guy who really made me change my mind about their designs

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Big ol' W

  • @thebroskies4209
    @thebroskies4209 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Siren name is emily and apparently her siren powers are more on the healing side because of her back story which you can actually listen to on a side mission in the presequel. Where one of the aliens you fight in bl3 or wtv heals her when she was a little girl and very sick. Whe was in the medbay and a purple light beamed down on her and healed her. Then her mom named ammy or annie cant remember left elpis and went to pandora you can watch a video on it from another youtuber. Edit not bl3 the presequel honestly i dont remember someone help me out

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You for sure watched my homie EpicNNG!

    • @thebroskies4209
      @thebroskies4209 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @Byrdman i believe so. I had no clue they tied something together like that from like 10 years ago is crazy

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I remember this! Dont remember where. Healing sounds really cool, always like playing suppot. Dont know how that will fair in bl but well see.

    • @thebroskies4209
      @thebroskies4209 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @naturesfinest2408 epicnng he just dropped another video about it. Presequel where the mission is. I honestly cant wait if it true

  • @magiloulou
    @magiloulou 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm really glad you made this video. I understand that people feel the way they do about the vault hunters, but I still feel like it's a bit of an overreaction. I think they look fine, and I'm really interested to see what they do.
    I also had the same thoughts about the girl on the right, she looks like she'd use gadgets or turrets or drones or something. For now, I'm pretty torn between her and siren!

  • @WilliamLopshire-xq8dk
    @WilliamLopshire-xq8dk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well people forget is if you go back to Borderlands 1, they didn't look super unique either. They looked like normal people. It's more about what they can do than what they actually look like, but I can see why people would have somewhat of a problem with it, but I look at it as people being more spoiled because of the way they did Borderlands 3 compared to every other one I think people are jumping the gun with judging the game before actually jumping in it and playing the game because the only way you're going to know if it's good or not is by actually giving it a go around

  • @bluelyoko1041
    @bluelyoko1041 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They are bland first impression is everything we went from ragtag team to DEI hire

  • @user-yg8jf1zk9e
    @user-yg8jf1zk9e 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope for gun customization. The ability to swap weapon parts out and create your own weapons out of a kajillion guns would be awesome, I think.

  • @ryanalex4671
    @ryanalex4671 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Someone commented that Borderlands is transitioning into Fortnite

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Lmao they clearly haven’t played either game then 😂 I’ll say though I enjoy when games adopt good things from each other

  • @MrValentineful
    @MrValentineful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was immediately able to peg all of them for what they do aside from the specific Siren powers from the moment that I first saw them. I think they look good personally. Not 'wow, so amazing', but good. I will certainly be playing the little engineer first. She looks like she's going to be a badass with great voice lines. I'll probably play the big dude with friends first because I like his cybernetics.

  • @BrandonDenny-we1rw
    @BrandonDenny-we1rw 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I care way more about how they play

  • @Dankmemeslover69
    @Dankmemeslover69 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope there will be an ability to change the skin color of characters like we had bl3

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That’s super weird to say lmaoooo

    • @meta3323
      @meta3323 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Byrdman he didn't mean it like that. Some games like League use the terminology "Skin" instead of cosmetic /gear/ etc.
      But there could be a chance he's racist but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here lol.

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh I see. Well yeah they’re gonna have skins.

  • @Kakashi42069
    @Kakashi42069 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem with the character designs are that 3/4 of them look like dollar store overwatch characters and for the sake of reappearing in future games due to lore (older games characters brought back into future games), their character design is terribly meh. At least 3/4 of them do not stand out and need to be given some kind of uniqueness or a better default color scheme at least

  • @noticemeonii-chan5347
    @noticemeonii-chan5347 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, though I’m on the train where they kinda do look boring, I get that they have skins that they could change them up with, but if their voices are cringe, and the abilities and their play styles are not fun. It’s gonna be a big dealbreaker.

  • @thedankfloof3682
    @thedankfloof3682 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    People are acting like each set of VH from previous games are so great. Its been like this since day one. There are two kind of out of the norm looking characters and two pretty normal ones. Literally since BL1. I love Roland and Mordechai, but they are plain in comparison to Brick being a human skyscraper and Lilith glowing and being a siren. BL2 the same goes for Axton and Salvador. They are dope, and I mained Sal to max lvl until krieg dropped, but Ax and Sal are plain characters other than Salvador being short. I can go on for the other games, but do I need to?

    • @thenoisemaker8335
      @thenoisemaker8335 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      exactly

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bruh compare the prequel to this 🤣 bl3 did not have good designs either.

    • @ben.juan.
      @ben.juan. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Femtoisbackandbetter-g1bwdym, Bl3' VH desings are decent as the other prevuis ones

    • @thedankfloof3682
      @thedankfloof3682 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FF8Irvine_Fan Welp. You got me. Well played.

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mordercai isnt generic though. being skinny tells us something. Why does he think he can survive on this planet? What makes him unique? He wears a mask, why? And lilith is a petite pretty, blue tattooed, red hair woman surrounded by gruff men. Why does she think she can make it? Why is a soldier out here on his own with this group? Brick is full of scars and is huge. He just seems along for the ride. They all look like they came from different places.
      These 4 characters look like they came from the same place. If ONE looked like this i wouldn't care, but its all 4 with the same style.
      Character doesnt mean flashy or completely unique, it means different and shows personality, history, makes us question or understand why just by looking at them, these 4 vh dont do that. Same looking culturally means similar personality means bland.

  • @starfield.cyborg
    @starfield.cyborg 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just some lore hints that I think is good to take not of us that we have seen a siren with purple powers in a book I think and she can control animals and in the trailer when you see her tats glow there are rakks in the back maybe to hint to her controlling them… but it’s just as likely that she sucks in damage and lets it out in a beam like we see. I think the big guy is probably coming from that caveman-ish clan in the bl3 dlc

  • @fhernandoramirez623
    @fhernandoramirez623 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Literally no one can tell me that Brick from BL1 is not a fucking hugely generic ass design??? He looks like any brute you would fight in the game if unmasked, Soldier in BL1 is just a guy with crimson armor on, what the fuck are these complaints?? I think the biggest enemy of Borderlands is not just the gearbox's parent company and executives, their "biggest fans" just deliberately want the game to die with no chance.

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They look like they have history. When you look at the design of the characters you see something on them, scars, the clothes they chose to wear, that they are all physically different looking. Brick is big and has multiple scars, roland looks like a sad/out of luck soldier (especially by the opening scene) mordercai brandishes his knife and wears a full mask (hidding identity) and lilith (notably a woman, clean and pretty, with blue tattoos, how can she survive?).
      For the first game they are interesting, they look different, act different, even sit different. Showcasing personality. On an inhospitable planet for loot we can see how two big gruff guys may make, but a skinny masked boy and a petite woman, nah. It creates curiosity.
      Here, we see modern hippie on all of them. Crop top, big coat, side hair, tied back ponytail. Same personality on all of them. If ONE of them looked this way id give it a pass (like what we do with each soldier character that comes out). But it isnt one of them, *its all of them.*
      They dont *look* like they have history. Like they came from somewhere else. Like theyve been in fights and are hardened and skilled in what they do. They all look clean, well kempt.
      They all look the same and thus feel like they came from the same place, regardless of their true personality. Culture and background influences what you wear, how you look (skin scars piercings etc), walk. Theyre generic, they look soft, bland.
      Now, i think there are more important things to worry about. Like, will it even be a good game? But we get what we have. Personally, seems unpopular maybe, i want a serious game. Serious villans.
      Way better writing. Way less effects on screen (its disorienting and hurts my eyes. Atleast let me turn the off/wayyyy down.).

    • @fhernandoramirez623
      @fhernandoramirez623 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @naturesfinest2408 this is such a melodramatic, overcompensating analysis on a bleak matter, no they do not look fucking "clean" whatever that means man, they're in Borderlands, nothing in this franchise looks clean however you're meaning it as, maybe the black girl VH perhaps, none of the others do, I genuinely am so dumbfounded as to what that practically means. Also your knock on BL4's vault hunters are that they look like they know what they're doing? Are we just shooting air for arguments now? As if BL2's vault hunters didn't look like they knew how to team coordinate precisely and use all their weapons in the trailers. I'm sure you think BL3's vault hunters look so generic too because you absolutely have super valid and well thought out opinions right? I just don't know what to say man, it doesn't matter at all what there is to say, whatever you eat you're just gonna shit it out, hippies?? You could argue anything to like look a fucking hippie its a nonsense descriptor, we have a viking-esque cybernetic tank, a punk siren, a parkour looking blade user, and a technical class that looks something in the same vein as like lifeline from Apex. You wanna spit balls about generic yet the black girl has a uniquely wavery curled hair and baggy mechanic pants, but that means nothing right? But Salvador gets to where fucking jeans and a shirt and his designs get praised, its all just stupid, rage bait hypocrisy. They look just fine, end of story.

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @fhernandoramirez623 lots of ad homs here, yawn.
      Anyway, no i dont think 3 had bad characters. Why? Because they look different from one another. Also known as character. Their personality was reflected in the stylistic choices.
      These 4 look like each other, thus there is a lack of character. "clean" means unscared, unscathed, kempt, well put together. For people who are supposed be pirates looking for loot and badasses, you look like you just got a haircut and manicure with your big hair that gets in the way of living.
      Id be fine with if it was one person, but they all look like each other. So by default it becomes bland.
      Sal is the only generic dude surrounded by freaks. Being generic in this situation makes you a freak.
      Being generic surrounded by generic people makes you generic.

    • @naturesfinest2408
      @naturesfinest2408 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fhernandoramirez623 also, Salvador is surrounded by a soldier, a siren, and a cloaked mystery assassin, not to mention a girl who sawed her arm off at ~18 and a literal psycho, being genric in that crowd makes you a freak.
      Being generic in this crowd makes you generic.

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@naturesfinest2408 ... Man.. Such a serious long paragraph over them..

  • @Adz_Plays
    @Adz_Plays 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here the thing/problem. The default characters normally always look abit bland. People are too used to having cool skins. I'm not worried at all also you barely even see your character it's a 1st person game. People just love to moan and point put negatives

  • @Aquageo555
    @Aquageo555 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly, I think once we get more details, it will be fine. Unfortunately, the first impression with no context naturally would raise eyebrows.

  • @ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna
    @ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They look like literal NPCs you can criticize an aspect of the game without deconstructing the entire thing. Now is the time to speak up while changes and revisions can still be made.

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My man they are just base skins. 99% of people alter their vault hunters within the first 5 mins of the game. It’s gonna be okay.

    • @ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna
      @ThuyCawlEemThaBlaydRunna 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ My man base skins still need to look moderately appealing. If the base design isn’t good the skins are worthless.

  • @gameslol472
    @gameslol472 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We also don’t know there voice lines. Salvador had a lot of personality but looked boring

  • @bluebucket703
    @bluebucket703 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do think its too early too judge. Like maybe we should wait and see how their personalities and backstory plays out. 1 and 2 had some designs that were basic looking but they all had a fun personality and great backstory. Same with 3 i thought they would be uninteresting at first but seeing them interact and knowing some lore around them made them great

  • @fbiagent2442
    @fbiagent2442 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Honestly very good video, feels good seeing someone not mindlessly complaining about "wokeness" and actually take a positive critical approach.
    Keep it up

  • @JacobCallejas-vi6su
    @JacobCallejas-vi6su 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reason there making it a huge stink is one of the characters has that killmonger cut, that's the stink as well as the viking not being a full melee fella because he's a big brawlic dude, that and mostly the killmonger cut most are expecting this story to be bland due to that haircut alone.

  • @JohnShadoeStreams
    @JohnShadoeStreams 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here's the thing. We are just conditioned with the previous Vault Hunters and stories. There are skins. And honestly, i like their designs. We don't even know their whole abilities.

  • @bognarbarnabas5520
    @bognarbarnabas5520 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In borderlands 2 I knew I wanted to play Zer0 in about 10 seconds after taking a look at the vault hunters, he's been my favourite vault hunter ever since. in bl3 i knew I wanted to play FL4K (wasn't the best choice, wasn't my favourite vault hunter in that game) but by looking at these 4 npc-s I honestly wouldn't wanna play ANY of them, they are extremely bland and look uninteresting. I hope their skills and personalities are better than what they look like, but it's a big minus either way.

  • @mrmosty5167
    @mrmosty5167 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I see no problem. I will probably play as the two female characters. At the end of the day it's Borderlands and the guns themselves are your characters and your build is their cosmetics

  • @russellmuscle7434
    @russellmuscle7434 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I only play borderlands for the guns and the legendary farming, i could care less what vault hunters that i cant even see look like

  • @veganbadassTTV
    @veganbadassTTV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yea i didn't see anything wrong with the new vault hunters they literally look like any other borderlands characters. I just think people are looking for dumb things to shit on this game..
    Im very hype for this game..
    Thank you for being the voice of reason

  • @fenrirbooth7487
    @fenrirbooth7487 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want my axes already. I seen that you got a grappling hook and axes and my inner child said give me them so I'm most definitely gonna be maining him once BL4 comes out but I do know I'm already hyped for it

  • @cyrusleach9414
    @cyrusleach9414 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean just because you can tell what the character can do based off their look. Definitely does not mean they look good

  • @snip3r416
    @snip3r416 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man I can’t wait For Borderlands 4 I’m so excited I’m already ready for pre order just need to know the price tag 🏷️ but on that note just gotta wait.

  • @tonythunder6048
    @tonythunder6048 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think everyone is used to Bl2 and 3 designs where you can go “oh that’s kinda neat” just by looking at the VHs cause in Bl1 everyone kinda looked like normal people, even in. bl2 besides Maya and Zero, even Zane looked normal compared to the others with no action skills

  • @FULLSENDFC
    @FULLSENDFC 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    ok but why does the guy on the left of the trailer look like a we’ll done fryd hot dog 😂

  • @mark_delight
    @mark_delight 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow someone finally with a little common sense and the voice of reason. How refreshing!

  • @coyote_knight
    @coyote_knight 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Roland was bland and boring in BL1. Maya was bland AF in BL2 and yet they STILL looked interesting compared to the character of Amara in BL3... she legit made me was to drink a can of magnolia paint whenever a single voice line came out of her face hole. Then there's Wilhelm in TPS and the Tiny Tina game that straight up shouldn't have existed...
    How in the blue hell does one of my favourite communities forget all of that and suddenly decide "these characters look bland"?

  • @cairusdumas1306
    @cairusdumas1306 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They need to bring the commando class back Zane came really close with the flying turret, let’s not forget about DLC characters

  • @ricardopaccelle949
    @ricardopaccelle949 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think this has to do more with how they were presented in the trailer. I took a moment to notice they were the VH. Anyway, I really think that creating new characters every game will become a problem, if it isn't already.

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would that be a problem based off design?

    • @ricardopaccelle949
      @ricardopaccelle949 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Byrdman Because there are already too many characters to share the spotlight. In BL3, some of the returning characters barely appeared, imagine from now on. They should make existing characters playable, like in the Pre-Sequel. And also, the more characters are created, the harder it will be to try to escape the already established archetypes, they will end up missing the mark at some point.

  • @jessepeterson6694
    @jessepeterson6694 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I personally don't see too much of a problem with these designs but i also feel like there needs to be at least one thing that should be added or changed. Like the far right corner, that woman needs a better hair style.

  • @TechyCatz
    @TechyCatz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zero was the only style I liked and I didn't like his playstyle. It doesn't even matter that much as you don't see your character 90 percent of the time

  • @gunzkiller101
    @gunzkiller101 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The siren and the big guy aren’t that bad. The other two remind me of concord character design.

  • @bigbri4090
    @bigbri4090 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I like the new Vault Hunters. I'm amped for BL4.

  • @thenom6648
    @thenom6648 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m just saying, there is a charm to the previous vault hunters. It’s what made you really like them. Like everyone loves zero, because he’s mysterious and ninja looking. Or Zane, who looks like a silver tongue bounty hunter who has high tech stuff.
    these guys look pretty uninteresting to pick. Because when I look at them here, I’m not getting any vibe of who I want to choose. So they have to make sure to give these characters something interesting about them. It’s got to show us an interesting personality or amazing game play. If they fail both, then I’m not gonna be happy with our vault hunters.

  • @MDFarro2010
    @MDFarro2010 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t mind the character appearances but what if they are just generic presets and you can customise the characters

  • @SyBorg-to3ni
    @SyBorg-to3ni 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They look bland but BL1 Vault Hunters also looked bland (and had no real personality until the second installment). But since we have been spoiler by BL2 I agree they should have been more diverse (meaning freaky looking)

  • @boble3227
    @boble3227 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really don't get why people are bitching about this bro. Like theres real reasons to hate on GB. But this shit is the stupidest fucking thing. Like it's a first person shooter.

    • @boble3227
      @boble3227 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also good video bro. I think that this game will probably have the same problems as 3 but the gameplay will probably be amazing.

  • @isnoanoption
    @isnoanoption 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me, I don’t doubt that the Vault Hunters themselves will be unique, that’s not really my issue. My issue is that from first glance, the colors and initial design elements of them don’t pop out. Yes, you have the guy with the exoskeleton and the other with the large, robotic arm but the clothing and core elements feel incredibly boring. Both of the Characters on the far right and far left feel like I would see them as NPCs that say a couple lines of dialogue when I walk past. None of them have unique silhouettes outside of the really muscular Vault Hunter.

  • @redlethal4358
    @redlethal4358 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My favorite complaint is that it is using the same graphical style. Like, bruh, its a Borderlands game. You want it to be voxel? Pixel art? Get out of here with that.

  • @Profoundkarma2000
    @Profoundkarma2000 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s gonna be like Wilhelm, there’s going to be changes as the game progresses

  • @KillaTundant
    @KillaTundant 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They do look plain and boring tbh, no matter what the reason is. I personally believe its a stupid reason that begins with D and Ends with I.

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have a lack of braincells if that’s your reasoning

    • @zekite6467
      @zekite6467 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That isnt DEI, its just flat-out bad character design. Franchises that are "DEI" can actually make visually appealing characters, borderland sadly just flopped this time around for that aspect

    • @SadistAssist
      @SadistAssist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @zekite6467 Get a grip

  • @mcahtme2977
    @mcahtme2977 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You hit in on the head, ppl are overreacting. Why would they put out everything about the characters 5+ months out? Have the fans still wondering is my opinion & a good strategy.

  • @slushy1522
    @slushy1522 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A real concern would be the story being as bland and generic like borderlands 3 but seeing trailer this one seems like its going back to hansom jack type villain and it being more dark like it used to be. Which i could be wrong but the trailer just had that feel to me and i really hope my instinct is correct.

  • @RustyPawz
    @RustyPawz 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gotta admit I like the design, but even so they feel too similar æsthetically

  • @Shatter149
    @Shatter149 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they look generic, not overall bad.
    its like they hire a concord designer

  • @markmadsen1791
    @markmadsen1791 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They look fine to me. Anyone who is talking crap right now is doing it purely for views or to stir up controversy. If you find them tell them to "sit down, shut up, and wait for something more substantial."
    I'm looking forward to trying all four of these new Hunters. I'll either start with the Siren or the Big Guy, unless it comes out that the guy on the left is the Soldier in this game as I've always played the soldier first. After that I'll run the list. In BL1 I played Roland, Brick, Lilith, and then Modrecei. In BL2 I played Axton and hated the endgame so much I never played again. In the Pre-Sequel I played Athena and Wilhelm before I stopped playing it. In BL3 I played Moze, Zane, Amara, then Fl4k. In BL4 it's looking like Big Guy or Siren, then the other, followed by the guy on the left, and finally the girl on the right. However that can change in an instant if we learn more about the Hunters. Here's hoping the game don't suck.

  • @YungBreezzyy
    @YungBreezzyy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The vault hunters look bland, however I’m more interested in the new gun & enemy designs

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I feel that but will say that design shouldnt matter, the skills should

    • @evergreenoaktree
      @evergreenoaktree 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, they don't. They look fine.

  • @CaleWhale123
    @CaleWhale123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wsg. New sub.

  • @myohmy851
    @myohmy851 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they change the short girl's hair, then she is perfect, because that hair is absolutely not good, and the left guy look like his gameplay with short sword look interesting but that doesn't change that his designe is very bad.

  • @MercilessBreed
    @MercilessBreed 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have to disagree with you on the chracters from 1 and 3. Roland was obviously the soldier, i think he was even introduced as such and Fl4k was a hunter, so it made sense along with his beast to be a rifle character

  • @RMT_IrishRedneck
    @RMT_IrishRedneck 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m honestly looking forward to the big guy, always wanted a Viking vault hunter, give him a Viking cosmetic and that action skill with the elemental axes 🤘🏻💪🏻

  • @PROPHYZ
    @PROPHYZ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2 was peak, esp. Zer0 for me personally - I couldn't relate to any vault hunter or found a liking to the design ever since.
    Around 98% of the community isn't feeling the new designs, HOW THE FK IS THIS NOT A BIG DEAL ?
    Guess when we are at it you could say game 1-2 just had massive personality and a soul.
    3 is an absolute travesty and 4 looks even worse, if you say the looks don't matter you are absolute out of your fkn mind.
    Not sure about those ''rAgeTubeRs'' and I give absolute 0 fks, but at least I can relate to what they saying.
    I thought after 3 the design can't get any worse and holy shit was I wrong. Not sure if it's gonna be ok man, far from it.

  • @jameswright2623
    @jameswright2623 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think everyone is missing the point of the discussion. We're talking about first impressions and like it or not furst impressions matter. If you're releasing a game and a large mahority of people are complaining that your game looks bland or your characters look bland then thats a problem for the game developers and publishers. You want to pique interest in your players and get that possitive feedback. Unfortunately a lot of games are judged by their covers. It may bot be right or even fair. Its the truth. Most players are not going to play a game, especially a game centered around specific characters if those characters aren't interesting to them.
    You can say you like these characters or are even interested in them. But you're just one person out of many. You might very well be the minority.
    When Borderlands 2 came out i was excited about all four of the characters. Their depictions drew me in and made me curious. When Borderlands 3 came out i really only wanted to know more about Moze and Fl4k until the game released. Amd for Borderlands 4 only the viking really catches my eye.
    At the end of the day how characters appeal to us is just an opinion. And everyone is entitled to their own opinion. To me, the viking stands out. Its not just the color palletes. But its the characters shapes and outfits and designs. The others just don't stand out all that much.
    The sirens akways stick out so i don't think its fair to compare them. But the others? Brick was a huge guy, he quite literally stands out. Mordecai looked like an Assassin. Roland was the only "plain" looking player character int the first game. Zero looked like a futuristic ninja and turned out to be exactly that. Salvador was a dwarf which is uncommon to see outside of fantasy. Keieg was a psycho and Gaige was a teenage girl woth a cybernetic arm and a deathbot. Only Axton really seemed "plain" until you saw he had two turrets. Moze looked "plane" until you saw she had an awesome mech. Fl4k was a robot with pets. Both of these are entirely new concepts in Borderlands. But arguably most of these characters immediately stood out as different in some way.
    Unfortunately or fortunately a lot of people myself included, aren't really impressed with the current choice of characters at first glance.

  • @befuddledalot8521
    @befuddledalot8521 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I completely agree with you. People are so quick to hate it's annoying. It's good to see there are still reasonable CCs out there. I appreciate your thoughts 🙏

  • @DragonBlade98
    @DragonBlade98 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can usually look at a vault hunter and go they look cool and I want to play them, from the little we have seen of the new 4 nothing really catches my attention, they look ok but I don't feel any are stand out currently. I do hope the more we see from them in the next trailer will make them more interesting, as what you said there was no real personality given to them in the trailer.

  • @darkjester374
    @darkjester374 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly yeah i agree with you we also need to see more of the characters before we call anything i really like the buff dude design

  • @StronyDK
    @StronyDK 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    people complaining about the look of these characters, bro it's a fps you don't even look at those on the entire game, you r looking the weapons and the enemies on the fast paced action but i guess i have to let em cry.

    • @zekite6467
      @zekite6467 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      character designs are a massive part of what go into initial character selection, keep in mind that most players only play one character, so having characters that players identify with is imperative in holding their interest.
      That and the VH's do appear in the story of this game, so it will make a difference.

  • @kingamongmen7455
    @kingamongmen7455 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I miss the bl2 weapons and the look/feel they had the bl3 weapons are laser beams and chonky they dont feel good imo. I prefer bl2 graphics over bl3 personally plus the mad max vibe not star wars

  • @thegreycrusader
    @thegreycrusader 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These designs really lack any personality or charm. They look bland, uninspired, and downright boring. Not to mention that the trailer barely showcased their skills or their names!
    How is it the villains have designs head and shoulders above the VH's? Did the same people even work on them? Lmao!

  • @iAmViking94
    @iAmViking94 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People complain literally about everything thing these days , i personality loved the trailer and excited for BL4 , the new vault hunters look great

  • @Banditnova
    @Banditnova 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Let me say this i dislike people who this got woke i know your fan bl games they always had diverse characters in there game my biggest problem this character models they are too boring looking noting scared vault hunter or badass just boring looking npc

    • @Byrdman
      @Byrdman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Half of what you just wrote doesn’t make sense and you unironically used “woke”

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Imagine getting defensive about people using the word woke

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine getting defensive about people using the word woke

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s gonna be funny when this game doesn’t even make a profit 🤣 because of people like you

    • @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b
      @Femtoisbackandbetter-g1b 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You’re unapologetically leftist