I love that you guys are noticing the distance growing between the Scoobies and how strained it sometimes feels when they're together. It's a foe that you as a group probably have battled quite a bit.
Petty Giles is best Giles. The wacky episodes are the saving grace of this season, and these reactions make them even better! Oh, we're getting into one hell of a stretch coming up -- can't wait.
It took me a minute to realise what episode this was, and then when I realised I made an audible noise of joy. Such a great episode, so funny but also genuinely advancing the story. And the dynamic of the Scooby Gang is also being developed in interesting ways. Oh, and by the way, there's a whole bunch of episodes coming up which are absolutely killer. Very excited. This season is a lot better than it's generally perceived by the old-school Buffy fandom tbh. Just to clarify, Walsh is not Riley's mother, but he does look up to her and she has a very maternal attitude to him.
@@ReXtion88 on one hand the idea of a Frankenstein monster and a Dr. Frankenstein is pretty cool. The execution however wasn't the best. Shame really. Adam had great make up.
I love how funny you find the show and the discussions you have off the back of it around morality and things. And yes, as seen in Angel, and in Buffy previously, not all demons are evil. Where do you draw the line on their rights? ❤ I can see how much youre enjoying the show and im loving watching along with you!
Giles was drawing 2 paychecks all the way up to his firing in season 3. His Watcher paycheck and his Librarian paycheck. So he should be loaded for a while.
Not necessarily "Loaded", but enough savings so that he can take his time finding something new. A Librarian, as an Academic Department head in 1997 would get 44k a year, and a "Beginning Librarian" would get 28k/yr. Also, we have no idea what the Council was paying him. Remember too, he actually has a pretty nice house, plus all the books and artifacts that he buys (Which he might be able to write off to the Council).
"Fishwife" is UK slang for an annoying woman. It's pretty archaic now, not something you hear too often. It comes from the idea that the wives of fisherman have to spend long periods without their husbands and that this causes an... independent streak that many men found to be disagreeable. The more common usage these days is to describe a gossip, as in "gossiping like fishwives" but ironically this is most often used to insult gossiping men, as in "you're worse than a bunch of fishwives".
I've always assumed the demons hate salt thing came from the seasoning's uses in ancient cultures. Earliest human society was built on salt in a lot of ways. Stuff like salting meat to preserve it and then they didn't get sick when they ate it later. But they didn't fully understand the process of food rot and certainly had no idea about bacteria so it must have seemed to them like, "The salt drove the evil spirits out of the meat!" Something like that.
You're not too far off. In a lot of religions, salt is represented as incorruptible purity and immutability and in some sects of Christianity it's still put in holy water. Probably the ability to preserve food with salt had a lot to do with how the mythos around salt was created.
Salt as a purifying and sacred thing way predates christianity. it’s been associated with the ocean and birth waters for a long time, and therefore rebirth. But ancient people definitely knew that salt stopped microbial activity as well. They conjectured about the mechanisms behind it using the lens of their culture and era, same as we do now. As someone who works in the health field, I think the amount of practice that is based on theory would be startling to most people. Technological progress is not necessarily linear
I love that the show makes you have a debate about the morality of what's the Initiative is doing and the difficulty of automatically assuming sentinet creatures that are different are bad. This episode is a great example of how Buffy as a show has stayed fresh - it's funny, but also makes some serious points and always pushes it's narrative forward even when it's at its craziest. And really, who doesn't love petty Giles!
Another almost too comedic episode! But it was fun especially where Giles chases Walsh down the street. Interesting juxtaposition with Giles having to seek the help of Spike. The Xander, Spike in the basement part painfully funny again. The body swops, personality swops, etc a current theme throughout the whole series for lots of characters. The interminable Ethan Rayne back again causing havoc. A decent little episode and great fun.
when it comes to the whole 'secret govt camp' thing, i think it's really important to keep in mind that there is absolutely no way to argue in favor of incarceration that doesn't also apply to current and historical atrocities. 🤷🏻♀like, full stop. my grandma's entire generation of nikkei people was incarcerated for having japanese heritage while living on american soil. my great-grandfather didn't even see the inside of camp til after the loyalty questionaire was distributed, he was disappeared to a DOJ prison less than 24 hours after pearl habor. if i want a copy of his 'enemy alien card' from the national archives it'll run me about $100. it's not really a theoretical discussion, campy show or not. ya can't say 'well if aliens come blah blah blah' without also describing a time where entire groups of people were being inhumanely treated as inhuman. it is literally, word for word, the same arguments.
If aliens come we need to hope for dear life that they are a peaceful and 'respects younger sentient races' type of civilization... Or we'd be screwed.
Mark 15:50? Daycare centers! In PV, OK, their yards have toys scattered everywhere, but they typically have fenced-in yards for that. People with money, may or may not have fenced-in yards, but if they have children, their yards have toys on them too. Their neighborhoods have those signs to warn you to drive extra slow because children are playing. Though as written, they look like signs warning visitors about not so bright children living there. 😁
@@transientanus seasons 8 and 9 tried too hard to be comics instead of just continuing the show how it was, however when they turned the series over to the guy who wrote the angel and faith comics the quality drastically improved.
You're right that not all demons are bad, although it's hard to fault others for not knowing it. There has been a lot of development in this area of slayer lore. In the beginning, everything Buffy had learned and was told said that demons are bad and it's the slayer's job to just kill them. Things changed in Angel's season one episode though when Buffy's life was made infinitely more complicated when she learned not all demons are bad. Before it was simple, she was a warrior. In that episode, she learned the true nature of the slayer was as judge and protector. It's easy to see the scene where she dropped the crossbow and presented her neck to Angel as a young girl with a crush putting faith in the guy she likes, however naive. Instead, what she really was doing was judging Angel worthy of death. She did this again in the 3rd season when he returned. That tear rolling down her face when he remembered her name was because she was so relieved she didn't have to kill him. A big part of the reason why she never told the scobie he was back was because she was judging him as the slayer. Initially, she was all but certain she was going to have to kill him again and she sti hadn't told anyone Angel's soul was back when she killed him the first time. So her locking him up and frantically checking into the mysterious deaths was her desperately hoping to find a reason to judge him not worthy of death. Still, while Buffy leaned all these things on her own, she has faced resistance. The Watcher's Council definitely has different views on the subject. Like the initiative, they view all demons as evil and worthy of death no matter if they pose a threat to humans or not. In Angel's episode, Giles was just as surprised as Buffy that a demon could be good. Kendra similarly was stuck on the idea that Angel should be killed no matter what. Same with Faith. That very issue ended Buffy's relationship with the Council, as they refused to provide a cure for Angel, saying it wasn't their policy to keep a vampire alive no matter if he had a soul or not. So, we can't really blame he Initiative for having a similar view. Still, knowing what we know from Angel so far, it does present an interesting view on things. We know there are Powers that Be now, higher order beings who manage the various players fighting for good. They were the ones that sent Angel to Buffy to learn how to be a warrior for good in the first place. We also know that the slayers have been pushed into a particularly harsh view of the demon realm by the Watchers. One that isn't really in line with the Powers that Be. In fact, Buffys realization that she is a judge and holding to that responsibility rather than continue to allow the council to push her to to against that role is one of the things that really makes her unique in the history of slayers. It's also something that appears to be of note, something to keep in mind going forward, as it's something she keeps having to deal with.
PS: I knew they existed before I ever saw the show, thanks to the toy treasure chest in the office of my childhood dentist. He had colorful, tiny, plastic, toy cars and airplanes. I tried to collect them all! One of the cars was a blue "Citroën DS"! 😊
Mark 4:31. Hmm. If I still had easy access to my boxed comic books and magazines, I'd probably look on your behalf, as you have me curious too. But I no longer know where those boxes are! 😢
Watching as an adult it's so obvious that Ethan is into Giles & all his schemes are the equivalent of a boy pushing a girl he likes over on the playground.
Mark 27:17. "Is what they did to Spike, right?" That's the moral of the story behind the movie, "A Clockwork Orange" about a criminal type that gets his free will taken away thanks to a British government experimental program. As for this series, though, they needed to come up with a way to allow SPOILER to happen! 😁
It always annoyed me not that Buffy assumed that Giles knew (when he was hurt and didn't go when everyone else found out about Riley), but that spending the day with Riley was more important. Its just another key moment in the theme of the season: the division of high school vs college and whether or not high school relationships can carry over and survive. I was waiting for The Normies reaction to "oh bugger, I thought you'd gone" and chasing Walsh while Giles was as a demon. Buffy has this attitude of bad guys lie because they're bad guys mentality. After dealing with Angelus (and now a reformed Anya), I've always thought that a naïve take on life that shows her age and character well. This carries over to defending Riley in Initiative matters. Soldiers follow orders, so his reaction now that he has questions (seeing 314) need to be suspect, and what his bosses are doing need to be suspect. No one questioned if Rana was OK with Willow and Tara. They questioned her denial of it going to happen. Buffy knew it was Giles by looking into his eyes. Its why there was a closeup on them just after she stabbed him.
Oh yeah! Naming a blonde (girl) "Buffy" is like naming a redheaded guy "Rusty" or girls "Red" ("Red Sonja") and "Ginger" ("Ginger Grant".) Though the chief mechanic in "Black Sheep Squadron" is named or nicknamed "Red"! Then there's comic actors "Red Buttons" and "Red Skelton". The "Marvel" character "Red Skull"!
Mark 7:16. The movie is her origin story! Her family was together until after the events of it split her parents, albeit off-screen between the movie and the first episode, not counting the pilot. So it wouldn't be for most of her life. Just since then. It would make more sense though if that production time lag between the movie and the series hadn't occurred, thus causing a need to recast. Poor Kristy Swanson and whomever played her parents. I'm still wondering if Hillary Swank's character died or was merely knocked unconscious by the rude person that shoved her aside! Her head did hit the gymnasium wall hard, and she slid slowly down to the floor, but the wall wasn't bloody. 🤔
Thumb Up #917! 👍 You're welcome! Thanks! 😊 Notes: Hmm. 🤔 Quote - Female mentorship is the mentoring of women by women to further their career and development prospects. A female mentor is sometimes called a femtor. End quote!
Mark 28:11. "Girl or Woman?" Yes! For her age and maturity, Buffy is the latter! For her virginity status, she is the latter as well! But for the gender listed on her birth certificate, her marital status, and her motherhood status, she's still the former. If she and Willow were Hillbillies, they would be considered "Spinsters" for having not gotten married before 17 or 18! 😁
Honestly, why would you detain an Alien landed on Earth? The fact that an Alien can reach Earth, means they are technologically far superior then us. Unless they are aggressive first, do you really want to pissed off their species for no good reason? It boggles the mind that you think we can imprison or dissect some Alien visitors with no consequences.
If I was Ethan... I would have some dark occultist tattoos that could be activated in case of emergency/detention. I feel Ethan has made more than a few enemies in his time.
26:00 LITERALLY the entire plot and somewhat motivation of Batman v Superman: Ultimate Cut with how the world is reacting to Superman, an alien among us. Which is why I will always die on the hill of that film being one of the best modern comic book movies ever. ❤
Suraj and Pat over here thinking humans will have any capability of detaining a race that crosses the galaxy and rolls up on our planet lol, doesn't get much more "Murica" than that.
They really should have kept Ethan Rayne showing up once a season to do something goofy. Need a ridiculous concept for an episode? Ethan Rayne is here!
Mark 7:29. "40"?! Oh okay, that's what I thought. I had been giving her the benefit of a doubt, like with Joyce. But to me she either looks older than 40, or Buffy got the age wrong, or she's just plain, and not as cute as Joyce! 🤔
Mark 2:34. "Spoiler Alert"? 😁 SMG, is in a movie that has other cast members doing nudity, especially in an orgy scene. But for her sex scene, she has her clothes on just like she does in this series! But she had more fun in the scene in which she gets to roll around on a made bed covered in real cash! (The producer explained in the commentary that he hated scenes like that in which the money is obviously fake movie money! So he keeps real cash in a vault just to be used for such scenes! He makes sure the people are clean, dry, and in soft apparel so no harm is done to the cash so that it can bd reused. I think it is $10,000.00? 🤔
I love mickey he funny But when he said " I don't think you have that authority" in reference to Riley telling Buffy we will use the whole intiative if we have to. It angered me Mickey became the nerd hater 😂😂
Lol that’s what I was saying about those possible false reports of UFOs being shot down like so why would you just assume that they are hostile and why would shooting it down help is learn otherwise what their motives are
I read/watch a lot of supernatural stuff before watching Buffy and I agree with Rana, casting magic was just like that. I didn’t pick on anything between Tara/Willow until it was spelled out for me.
Partly by design. They deliberately slow burned it through small moments and subtext so the network censors wouldn't realize what they were doing until it was too late to stop it. That said, the sparks and chemistry between them right from their first interaction in Hush are so painfully obvious I really don't know how anyone misses it.
@@troikas3353 Yeah they had to be very careful since it was touchy. Faith and Buffy's chemistry was blocked entirely earlier in the show so they knew it wasn't something they could get away with unless they were careful. The people that miss it are the intended people to miss it. The people who are like the censors and won't notice.
How about instead of making people pay for Patreon you edit your Angel episodes and put them on TH-cam like your subscribers actually want? Your previous poll was clearly wrong and you continue to prove it by having to reference Angel almost every Buffy discussion.
“Oh bugger, I thought you’d gone!”
One of my favourite Buffy lines of all time. RIP Robin Sachs
Robin was so delightful as Ethan but his VO work also! RIP!
@@zenithquasar9623 loved him as Zaeed Masani in Mass Effect 2 & 3
Robin Sachs played Saris, the bad guy, in Galaxy Quest. (Also, lots of costuming.)
@@jameshenner5831 and Zaeed Massani in Mass Effect 2 & 3
@@pyrofan80I cut believe I never made that connection…
I love that you guys are noticing the distance growing between the Scoobies and how strained it sometimes feels when they're together. It's a foe that you as a group probably have battled quite a bit.
I like how the episode became parents meeting the bf or gf episode
This shows plays so well with how ridiculous some tropes are. The interrupted ethan monologue is amazing
“You were mythtaken” one of the best lines delivered perfectly by SMG.
Petty Giles is best Giles. The wacky episodes are the saving grace of this season, and these reactions make them even better!
Oh, we're getting into one hell of a stretch coming up -- can't wait.
That two parter coming up with a certain character is great!
I love season 4, it's one of the best for me. 🤷♀️
This season needs no saving grace. It's fine the way it is.
@@jp3813 eh Big Bad could have been better. Frankenstein is a great idea but execution was so dull
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 Every season has room for improvement. But requiring a saving grace is something else.
It took me a minute to realise what episode this was, and then when I realised I made an audible noise of joy. Such a great episode, so funny but also genuinely advancing the story. And the dynamic of the Scooby Gang is also being developed in interesting ways.
Oh, and by the way, there's a whole bunch of episodes coming up which are absolutely killer. Very excited. This season is a lot better than it's generally perceived by the old-school Buffy fandom tbh.
Just to clarify, Walsh is not Riley's mother, but he does look up to her and she has a very maternal attitude to him.
This season has an issue where people think about the villains and forget that it actually has a lot of the best episodes of the entire show
@@AnatoleVGC Yeah, Adam is fairly underwhelming as a villain but the writing as a whole is just stellar
@@ReXtion88 on one hand the idea of a Frankenstein monster and a Dr. Frankenstein is pretty cool. The execution however wasn't the best. Shame really. Adam had great make up.
I can confirm that Muffy is indeed a name, I have an aunt Muffy lmao. Poor Giles but also this was such a funny episode for him.
I remember a Muffy on the children's show Arthur too
Buffy is a pet form of Elizabeth
Muffy is a pet form of Margaret
@@overlookers Really? What, in toddler speak? LOL. I only know of Liz/Lizzy/Eliza/Beth & Mag/Maggie.
@@ameliacraiig4193 Bess, Bessie, Betsy, Bette, Betty, Elise, Ella, Ellie, Elsie, Elsa, Libby, Lillian, Lisa, Madge, Marge, Margo, Margie, Marjorie, Meg, Megan, Daisy, Rita, Greta, Gretchen, Peggy, etc...
I love how funny you find the show and the discussions you have off the back of it around morality and things. And yes, as seen in Angel, and in Buffy previously, not all demons are evil. Where do you draw the line on their rights? ❤ I can see how much youre enjoying the show and im loving watching along with you!
Giles was drawing 2 paychecks all the way up to his firing in season 3. His Watcher paycheck and his Librarian paycheck. So he should be loaded for a while.
Not necessarily "Loaded", but enough savings so that he can take his time finding something new. A Librarian, as an Academic Department head in 1997 would get 44k a year, and a "Beginning Librarian" would get 28k/yr. Also, we have no idea what the Council was paying him. Remember too, he actually has a pretty nice house, plus all the books and artifacts that he buys (Which he might be able to write off to the Council).
@@singingwolf3929 that's fair. Of course money went farther back then so that helps.
@@ShadowDogProduction Facts!
Thanks for the laughs! It's crazy how funny this show can be. Jane Espenson wrote this. 😈
I'm sure I read that Anya is roughly based on Jane Espenson. A ridiculously exaggerated version of course
@@Faction.Paradox Haha! Nice.
had no idea, that's awesome.
"Fishwife" is UK slang for an annoying woman. It's pretty archaic now, not something you hear too often. It comes from the idea that the wives of fisherman have to spend long periods without their husbands and that this causes an... independent streak that many men found to be disagreeable. The more common usage these days is to describe a gossip, as in "gossiping like fishwives" but ironically this is most often used to insult gossiping men, as in "you're worse than a bunch of fishwives".
One would think that "many men" would love the company of lonely wives.
It was an old timey way of degrading men by insulting women. "Oh don't be such a girl" takes many forms, but is timeless.
I've always assumed the demons hate salt thing came from the seasoning's uses in ancient cultures. Earliest human society was built on salt in a lot of ways. Stuff like salting meat to preserve it and then they didn't get sick when they ate it later. But they didn't fully understand the process of food rot and certainly had no idea about bacteria so it must have seemed to them like, "The salt drove the evil spirits out of the meat!" Something like that.
You're not too far off. In a lot of religions, salt is represented as incorruptible purity and immutability and in some sects of Christianity it's still put in holy water. Probably the ability to preserve food with salt had a lot to do with how the mythos around salt was created.
I think its a purity thing, salt was and tbf is seen as pure
Salt as a purifying and sacred thing way predates christianity. it’s been associated with the ocean and birth waters for a long time, and therefore rebirth. But ancient people definitely knew that salt stopped microbial activity as well. They conjectured about the mechanisms behind it using the lens of their culture and era, same as we do now. As someone who works in the health field, I think the amount of practice that is based on theory would be startling to most people. Technological progress is not necessarily linear
The stop Ethan's monologue scene is hilarious.
Love demon Giles
Okay, I give Marketa props for that Level 10 clearance comment😂😂😂😂
I love that the show makes you have a debate about the morality of what's the Initiative is doing and the difficulty of automatically assuming sentinet creatures that are different are bad. This episode is a great example of how Buffy as a show has stayed fresh - it's funny, but also makes some serious points and always pushes it's narrative forward even when it's at its craziest. And really, who doesn't love petty Giles!
"If they got sentience, they got rights". Truth.
The argument at the end was really funny, can't wait to see if that means we get some reactions from the movies brought up.
"Well, you were mythtaken." Classic line!
Mark 21:03. Hey! When that song and dance were still a new fad, one of the pasta makers took advantage of it to promote their macaroni! 😂
The main character in the movie April Fools from 1986, great movie if you haven't seen it btw, was named Muffy. I also went to high school with one.
Another almost too comedic episode! But it was fun especially where Giles chases Walsh down the street. Interesting juxtaposition with Giles having to seek the help of Spike. The Xander, Spike in the basement part painfully funny again. The body swops, personality swops, etc a current theme throughout the whole series for lots of characters. The interminable Ethan Rayne back again causing havoc. A decent little episode and great fun.
This episode is hilarious but ish gets real after this, hopefully Spidey is back 😂
when it comes to the whole 'secret govt camp' thing, i think it's really important to keep in mind that there is absolutely no way to argue in favor of incarceration that doesn't also apply to current and historical atrocities. 🤷🏻♀like, full stop. my grandma's entire generation of nikkei people was incarcerated for having japanese heritage while living on american soil. my great-grandfather didn't even see the inside of camp til after the loyalty questionaire was distributed, he was disappeared to a DOJ prison less than 24 hours after pearl habor. if i want a copy of his 'enemy alien card' from the national archives it'll run me about $100. it's not really a theoretical discussion, campy show or not. ya can't say 'well if aliens come blah blah blah' without also describing a time where entire groups of people were being inhumanely treated as inhuman. it is literally, word for word, the same arguments.
If aliens come we need to hope for dear life that they are a peaceful and 'respects younger sentient races' type of civilization... Or we'd be screwed.
Mark 15:50? Daycare centers! In PV, OK, their yards have toys scattered everywhere, but they typically have fenced-in yards for that. People with money, may or may not have fenced-in yards, but if they have children, their yards have toys on them too. Their neighborhoods have those signs to warn you to drive extra slow because children are playing. Though as written, they look like signs warning visitors about not so bright children living there. 😁
They ain't wrong. It holds up because it did it all first.
I love how chris picked up on a detail that won’t be relevant until the season 8 comics regarding ethan’s detention
@@transientanus seasons 8 and 9 tried too hard to be comics instead of just continuing the show how it was, however when they turned the series over to the guy who wrote the angel and faith comics the quality drastically improved.
@@transientanus no worries, i wish you as good a weekend as circumstances allow.
You're right that not all demons are bad, although it's hard to fault others for not knowing it.
There has been a lot of development in this area of slayer lore. In the beginning, everything Buffy had learned and was told said that demons are bad and it's the slayer's job to just kill them.
Things changed in Angel's season one episode though when Buffy's life was made infinitely more complicated when she learned not all demons are bad. Before it was simple, she was a warrior. In that episode, she learned the true nature of the slayer was as judge and protector. It's easy to see the scene where she dropped the crossbow and presented her neck to Angel as a young girl with a crush putting faith in the guy she likes, however naive. Instead, what she really was doing was judging Angel worthy of death. She did this again in the 3rd season when he returned. That tear rolling down her face when he remembered her name was because she was so relieved she didn't have to kill him. A big part of the reason why she never told the scobie he was back was because she was judging him as the slayer. Initially, she was all but certain she was going to have to kill him again and she sti hadn't told anyone Angel's soul was back when she killed him the first time. So her locking him up and frantically checking into the mysterious deaths was her desperately hoping to find a reason to judge him not worthy of death.
Still, while Buffy leaned all these things on her own, she has faced resistance. The Watcher's Council definitely has different views on the subject. Like the initiative, they view all demons as evil and worthy of death no matter if they pose a threat to humans or not. In Angel's episode, Giles was just as surprised as Buffy that a demon could be good. Kendra similarly was stuck on the idea that Angel should be killed no matter what. Same with Faith. That very issue ended Buffy's relationship with the Council, as they refused to provide a cure for Angel, saying it wasn't their policy to keep a vampire alive no matter if he had a soul or not.
So, we can't really blame he Initiative for having a similar view.
Still, knowing what we know from Angel so far, it does present an interesting view on things. We know there are Powers that Be now, higher order beings who manage the various players fighting for good. They were the ones that sent Angel to Buffy to learn how to be a warrior for good in the first place. We also know that the slayers have been pushed into a particularly harsh view of the demon realm by the Watchers. One that isn't really in line with the Powers that Be. In fact, Buffys realization that she is a judge and holding to that responsibility rather than continue to allow the council to push her to to against that role is one of the things that really makes her unique in the history of slayers. It's also something that appears to be of note, something to keep in mind going forward, as it's something she keeps having to deal with.
3:20 ….oh wow that’s funny
PS: I knew they existed before I ever saw the show, thanks to the toy treasure chest in the office of my childhood dentist. He had colorful, tiny, plastic, toy cars and airplanes. I tried to collect them all! One of the cars was a blue "Citroën DS"! 😊
Plymouth in the UK is also known locally as The Muff or Plymuff in reference to how the Janner accent pronounces the placename
A muff is a winter accessory to warm your hands without gloves :)
Mark 4:31. Hmm. If I still had easy access to my boxed comic books and magazines, I'd probably look on your behalf, as you have me curious too. But I no longer know where those boxes are! 😢
Watching as an adult it's so obvious that Ethan is into Giles & all his schemes are the equivalent of a boy pushing a girl he likes over on the playground.
Nah man they are just old mates.
@@minuette1752 Just old mates mating around. They might have even been roommates once.
Oh my god they were roommates 😏
And historians say they were good friends...
Mark 27:17. "Is what they did to Spike, right?" That's the moral of the story behind the movie, "A Clockwork Orange" about a criminal type that gets his free will taken away thanks to a British government experimental program.
As for this series, though, they needed to come up with a way to allow SPOILER to happen! 😁
It always annoyed me not that Buffy assumed that Giles knew (when he was hurt and didn't go when everyone else found out about Riley), but that spending the day with Riley was more important. Its just another key moment in the theme of the season: the division of high school vs college and whether or not high school relationships can carry over and survive.
I was waiting for The Normies reaction to "oh bugger, I thought you'd gone" and chasing Walsh while Giles was as a demon.
Buffy has this attitude of bad guys lie because they're bad guys mentality. After dealing with Angelus (and now a reformed Anya), I've always thought that a naïve take on life that shows her age and character well. This carries over to defending Riley in Initiative matters. Soldiers follow orders, so his reaction now that he has questions (seeing 314) need to be suspect, and what his bosses are doing need to be suspect.
No one questioned if Rana was OK with Willow and Tara. They questioned her denial of it going to happen.
Buffy knew it was Giles by looking into his eyes. Its why there was a closeup on them just after she stabbed him.
And from here Ethan Raine joined the Buffyverse equivalent suicide squad along with that invisible girl...
Okay. I love your editor. It's official.
Lol Giles episodes are great and the dynamic of Spike and Giles is hilarious.
Oh yeah! Naming a blonde (girl) "Buffy" is like naming a redheaded guy "Rusty" or girls "Red" ("Red Sonja") and "Ginger" ("Ginger Grant".) Though the chief mechanic in "Black Sheep Squadron" is named or nicknamed "Red"! Then there's comic actors "Red Buttons" and "Red Skelton". The "Marvel" character "Red Skull"!
You guys are great. You made my day. Thank you.
Will Spidey be coming back to the Buffy panel?🙏
I will 😁
@@spideyharper618 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Christopher, you have such a nice voice. Do you do radio or anything?
11:57 lol Pat's armpits are obscene? :P
Whoever edited that is now my favorite normie
Mark 7:16. The movie is her origin story! Her family was together until after the events of it split her parents, albeit off-screen between the movie and the first episode, not counting the pilot. So it wouldn't be for most of her life. Just since then. It would make more sense though if that production time lag between the movie and the series hadn't occurred, thus causing a need to recast. Poor Kristy Swanson and whomever played her parents. I'm still wondering if Hillary Swank's character died or was merely knocked unconscious by the rude person that shoved her aside! Her head did hit the gymnasium wall hard, and she slid slowly down to the floor, but the wall wasn't bloody. 🤔
I’ve known a Muffy. Also a muffie is a cookie thats like the top of a muffin. Panera has them
"You have no idea how much thrashing you is going to improve my day."
It's true, girls in Iowa can hold their own ;)
Isn't there a character in Arthur (the kids show) called muffy
I figure, if aliens have those kinds of powers, they won't need to get our permission to be here.
This episode is very much a parents meets the partner episode in a way😂
Robin Sachs was great as Ethan Rayne, but even better as Zaeed Massani in the Mass Effect games.
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Notes: Hmm. 🤔
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Female mentorship is the mentoring of women by women to further their career and development prospects. A female mentor is sometimes called a femtor.
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Mark 28:11. "Girl or Woman?" Yes! For her age and maturity, Buffy is the latter! For her virginity status, she is the latter as well! But for the gender listed on her birth certificate, her marital status, and her motherhood status, she's still the former. If she and Willow were Hillbillies, they would be considered "Spinsters" for having not gotten married before 17 or 18! 😁
Someone should write an article “Monologuing Considered Harmful,” about the ways it goes wrong on Buffy.
I thought this was gonna be about a different type of smashing lol
Honestly, why would you detain an Alien landed on Earth? The fact that an Alien can reach Earth, means they are technologically far superior then us. Unless they are aggressive first, do you really want to pissed off their species for no good reason? It boggles the mind that you think we can imprison or dissect some Alien visitors with no consequences.
Mark 2:15. It has been my experience that they catch on to such abuse, and you don't get to do that for long. 😁
Giles: I hate that bloody woman.
Why did the editors blur out Pat’s armpits in the close up? 😂 11:57
OMG i love this episode so much! 😂
If I was Ethan... I would have some dark occultist tattoos that could be activated in case of emergency/detention. I feel Ethan has made more than a few enemies in his time.
This is fun. You're fun. Thanks.
Will you be making *Peacemaker* available, or is it a Patreon exclusive?
Muffy is a name in preppy circles, kind of like Skip and Bootsie.
Dry humping in college? Frfr? That was middle school for some of us....
What episode of buffy are you up to on patreon guys? 15 or 16?
26:00 LITERALLY the entire plot and somewhat motivation of Batman v Superman: Ultimate Cut with how the world is reacting to Superman, an alien among us. Which is why I will always die on the hill of that film being one of the best modern comic book movies ever. ❤
I'll join you.
Suraj and Pat over here thinking humans will have any capability of detaining a race that crosses the galaxy and rolls up on our planet lol, doesn't get much more "Murica" than that.
5:30 marketa showing what the czechs pride themselves on ,being the biggest 🌽 industry in europe
I just realised rosicky and cech are also czech
Where is spidey ??
I miss spidey 😢
Where is he?
I’m really enjoying your *uffy reactions.
If Giles can beat Ethan's ass there is NO WAY Riley should lose that fight!!!
I love how much Rena is loving riley/buffy
Same because i like Riley and Buffy. They’re a cute couple
Have you guys never seen Arthur?? There was a Muffy! Lol
They really should have kept Ethan Rayne showing up once a season to do something goofy. Need a ridiculous concept for an episode? Ethan Rayne is here!
Mark 7:29. "40"?! Oh okay, that's what I thought. I had been giving her the benefit of a doubt, like with Joyce. But to me she either looks older than 40, or Buffy got the age wrong, or she's just plain, and not as cute as Joyce! 🤔
Mark 2:34. "Spoiler Alert"? 😁 SMG, is in a movie that has other cast members doing nudity, especially in an orgy scene. But for her sex scene, she has her clothes on just like she does in this series!
But she had more fun in the scene in which she gets to roll around on a made bed covered in real cash! (The producer explained in the commentary that he hated scenes like that in which the money is obviously fake movie money! So he keeps real cash in a vault just to be used for such scenes! He makes sure the people are clean, dry, and in soft apparel so no harm is done to the cash so that it can bd reused. I think it is $10,000.00? 🤔
25:30 But do sentient things have rights?
I think salt is a purifying agent.
Muffy crosswire (Arthur)?
Muffy Crosswire from Arthur the kid show 😄 i guess they didnt watch it
Riley and Professor Walsh are not mother and son
Yes the magic here in the early 4th season and even a bit later is very much about 'Homosexuality' and acceptance of whom you love.
My cat's name was Muffy
I love mickey he funny
But when he said " I don't think you have that authority" in reference to Riley telling Buffy we will use the whole intiative if we have to. It angered me
Mickey became the nerd hater 😂😂
Watchers are well paid.
Giles Smash!!!!!!!!!
I mean... Ethan's probably not a US citizen... so... at least they didn't take him to Guantanamo?
Pat arguing: th-cam.com/video/5RQvSMu7BdY/w-d-xo.html
Mark 12:00? A second of censored hairy armpits? But the rest of the time he's okay? 🤔
why do they blur pats manlyness?? its it cuz of youtube regulations?
Lol that’s what I was saying about those possible false reports of UFOs being shot down like so why would you just assume that they are hostile and why would shooting it down help is learn otherwise what their motives are
I read/watch a lot of supernatural stuff before watching Buffy and I agree with Rana, casting magic was just like that. I didn’t pick on anything between Tara/Willow until it was spelled out for me.
Partly by design. They deliberately slow burned it through small moments and subtext so the network censors wouldn't realize what they were doing until it was too late to stop it. That said, the sparks and chemistry between them right from their first interaction in Hush are so painfully obvious I really don't know how anyone misses it.
@@troikas3353 Yeah they had to be very careful since it was touchy. Faith and Buffy's chemistry was blocked entirely earlier in the show so they knew it wasn't something they could get away with unless they were careful.
The people that miss it are the intended people to miss it. The people who are like the censors and won't notice.
Well how nice sura rana chris. Ive never dry humoed
How about instead of making people pay for Patreon you edit your Angel episodes and put them on TH-cam like your subscribers actually want? Your previous poll was clearly wrong and you continue to prove it by having to reference Angel almost every Buffy discussion.
Hey AOT Dub Crew... Where is the Attack on Titan Season 04 Part-3
Special 1 reaction...?
Please upload it.
🤨I want to hear all that without the beeps
Hey Ms.Renae