Full Review of the Priority 600x w Pinion/Gates Drivetrain
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The Priority 600x is a bikepacker's dream! We've been developing this bike for months, tested it on the GDMBR, and now we've got it exactly where we want it to be. With the Pinion and Gates drivetrain, this bike never fails, and the Wren suspension fork is icing on the cake of this truly unique bike.
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10:38 Wren Suspension Fork
20:07 Pinion GearBox info
27:03 Gates Carbon Drive info
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Not even a multi million dollar commercial in the Super Bowl for this bike would be more effective than this video
Thanks my friend, put a lot of time into this video, and the bike!
Lazy a** drunks don't ride bikes.
I don't watch the commercial bowl.
It's the best time for an idiot free trail ride.
As a confirmed minor bike nerd I really appreciated and enjoyed the interviews with company reps. Clear and informative. Some more content like this pls.
Mira says, "Hi"
Hello Mira
Minor? Haha! Love ya my man, can’t wait to ride with you two again.
Hello Mira!
@@odgreenoutdoors20 Mira says hello 👋
THIS IS THE COOLEST BIKE EVER! I'm so proud of what we all created, a lot of good people played a role in making this bike a reality.
As always thanks for the quality content.
Ryan, I pre ordered both the 600 and the 600x was wondering if the 600 would perform well on the GDMBR?
@@Cody-Craven Get the 600x for sure, if you're doing the GDMBR.
@@apache-yaquibrown4060 haha, Whoopsie!
@@Cody-Craven You could certainly ride the 600 on the divide (take off fenders and put on nubby tires), Dana did that for a few days, but the 600x is much more comfortable for off road riding. On that note, you could ride a unicycle on the Divide too, but you wouldn't be very happy ;)
Yeah, this Bike is amazing. Thanks for showcasing it after that amazing ride. Your videos really let the bike speak for itself. You just helped it along even more. Great video Ryan
Thanks man, we’re pretty excited with how it turned out
I already pre-ordered one back in August, have 3 trips planned next year with it. I was looking for a hard tail anyway and it's like this bike descended from Heaven.
It’s pretty much from heaven ;)
So what's it like mate?
so whats good about a hard tail? (i can think of two things) and whats your opinion on the bike now cheers
Update
Overpriced for what is truly a “concept” bike. Bold price for unchartered territory
Ryan, thank you for this awesome review! We followed your journey on the GMBR and Baja divide, and are inspired to do some bike packing. Also appreciate your support of local enterprise, so important always, but especially now. I will order this bike as soon as it's in the budget as it is perfect for the terrain here on Vancouver Island. Thanks also for all the great content. We will become patrons in 2021. Cheers!
Thanks for watching my videos, I really appreciate that. Happy trails!
Thank You for getting this review out! I've been looking forward to it and you did not disappoint! I like all the new upgrades to the original prototype. More threads for accessories.....Yes! An inverted front fork....Wow! Motorcycles have been using inverted forks for approx 30 years and longer for belt drives. Love the accommodation for 2.8" tires....A big plus! The interviews with industry experts on the components of the 600X was
great! My Priority 600X Adventure has been pre-ordered for a few weeks now. Probably the last bicycle I will ever need. Great work as always, Ryan. Thank You. Love a guy who can poke fun at himself......."Dork Van Duzer".
Glad you caught the ‘Dork’ humor;)
Happy trails my friend
Great video Ryan... love this whole bicycle concept and I agree that this type of drive train and that gear box is the way to go. I have a surly troll that I absolutely love but this is one bike that I am so going to get as part of my arsenal. Again, thank you for making this video. I will keep it as reference but I am so going to get me a priority 600. Cheers amigo y cuidate.
The Wren forks "just make sense" the Pinion and Gates really completes that Priority bike. They have really taken a bike packing bike to the next level, wow!
BTW, it was me that asked about the tire clearance and suggesting a frame capable or using 2.8" tires. It's nice that they addressed this. I can see that maybe in the future they have "drop down" selections for ordering these bikes with different wheels and other components. I'm very happy that they choose YOU Ryan and a spokesman, someone that goes way beyond any experienced bike packer.
The only problem is the stantions are prone to damage in rocky areas. Not a new design and is rarely seen on a mountain/adventure bike.
@@sparks701 true but still a great design and either way forks can get damaged.
@@hardmtnbiker I appreciate that!
@@sparks701 All Wren forks come with Bash Guards for this very reason
Just bought a 600X! It’ll be here on Monday 1/23😁
HOORAY!!! You are gonna LOVE it!!
John, thanks for pulling all of this together. I'd given up on watching the news, then found your Great Divide "Full Experience" video, then watched the entire series, and along the way I fell in love with everyone you introduced us to! What a wonderful antidote to all the insanity in the world these days. Thanks for inviting us into your world and letting us meet everyone. I'll be following all of you.... PS - I love your sense of humor.
Thanks Ron!! I really appreciate the kind words! I just uploaded another long video called LoveCycles, it'll also warm your heart, lots of beautiful encounters with wonderful strangers. Sending you a HIGH FIVE from Boulder!
@@duzer Ryan, sorry for calling you John. Guess I was still fixated on John's fall, amazed he was still alive after watching his aborted climb on the Ice Pillar. Watching your videos is one amazing adventure after another. Thanks again, from Hingham. MA
Very fair price for what you get, I feel. A lot of intentionality went into the design and component selection.
True, the REEB bike that I used on the Durango-Moab trip was similar to the 600x, but that bike starts at 5k
For Americans. Including tariffs it’s getting way to expensive :/ (even there are European parts on it, we’ll have to pay the tariffs).
Hey Duzer--you're the best sales guy every for Priority! Mine is on order! Going to pick it up in person in NYC and can hardly wait to try it on some serious New England rocky and rooty single track!
Right on! Local pickup is best. Have fun my friend
Thanks to you I bought a Wren fork for my bike (Salsa Woodsmoke) most amazing upgrade ever and was great working with Russ and others at Wren. Thank you!!
Great video man! Making plans to get one of those bikes as well, love it.
Right on
Awesome! I pre-ordered too after I watched your GDMBR series. I am so excited to get mine and get out there!
Sweet!!
Did you get it yet? Or when is the date
Ryan I`ve been watching you for about 2 years now and I have done a little bit bike touring but have been wanting to try bikepacking and longer rides I am 62 years young and have recently retired and you have inspired me to get out there! so I just ordered the 600 adventure! keep doing what you`re doing! hope to see you on the road or trail sometime
Great to hear that! I wish you all the best on your future adventures!
I’m getting into this at 60 so it’s good to hear your comments
Wow thanks for all the info about the various technologies involved with the 600x...have to admit have already started saving for mine😉 and have started putting in miles on my fun bike...thanks for the inspiration!
Yay!! Those pennies you’re saving will be well rewarded
Ryan, great review, this bike has a lot of great features but I also agree that little things do matter, like the grips and kick stand. I am 73 and just ordered my 600X can't wait to Get Out There with this bike.
Right on Charles!! You’re gonna LOVE it!
I love your passion!!! I feel exactly the same as you. I am happiest when I’m in the saddle, and am so thankful to be able to ride, and I can only dream of mountain bike trails clime you have in CO.
A tough day on a bike is still 100 times than a great day off a bike!
As crazy as you are...dude...you kicked ass on the bike in 2020...what a blessing to have a life like yours...looking forward to 2021...😄
Thanks Andre! It's been a special year
I'll be visiting family in boulder next year when covid dies down some with vaccine availability. Meet and greet would be cool...if your around..💉👍
Would love to meetup!
Ryan - I love your videos so much that I preordered the 600X during the summer. I'm 66 and a long time backpacker, completing the Colorado Trail this past summer. Once I discovered your channel I decided to give Bikepacking a whirl and my buddy and I are planning to attempt the GDMBR in 2021. I plan to Get Out There for as long as I can. Thanks so much for the inspiration!
Love hearing this! You'll find that the GDMBR is a cakewalk compared to the Colorado Trail! Happy trails my friend!
@@duzer There's my riding and hiking buddy Blake, Ryan! Can't wait for the summer of '21!
Great job on an incredible value in the industry. I don't expect to do anything like you do but just got a 600 for my future exploits.
Excellent video, Ryan! Thanks! My riding buddy and I have had our bikes on order for a couple months now and I'm really excited to ride it when it gets here. Really excited about the improvements/changes that were made too. Inverted front forks for example. Great design used on some really great downhill forks (Carnutt, Lefty) for years, and gives us a sprung rather than unsprung place to attach our extra water! Nice! Glad they also include the bash guards--very important to protect the stanchions from damage that can mess up the seals. I've talked to Eddie about the bike an he's been incredibly helpful, including with dimensions of the triangle for ordering the frame bag. Glad they have nailed them down and you posted them for all. I'd love to hear your thoughts about shifting with the Pinion gearbox now that your are doing more MTB'ing with it since getting back from the GDMBR. The drivetrain sounds bulletproof, but I'm wondering how much of an adjustment it is for shifting on climbs, etc.? Thanks again for getting this video out and for working with the Priority, Pinion and Gates teams to put this machine together! Pete
Hello Pete!!
Psyched to hear that you'll be rocking the 600x!
Thumb shifters are a bit of an adjustment for mountain biking, cause you're firing through gears much faster than you would commuting. I got used to it while riding Durango to Moab last year for 7 days. Even on steep uphills, it's fine, you either shift before you hit the hill, or lay off for a micro-second mid hill and you'll be fine. You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.
Enjoy the bikes!!
Thanks Ryan! Great review and update. I have been following this one and am seriously considering putting an order in for one. I am especially excited about Pinion\Gates drive train. The Wren fork seems like an awesome addition. I had never heard of Wren prior to this, but they seem to have a great product.
Adding a quick question. You mentioned that the dynamo hub has been removed from the setup. I (and I am sure there are others that agree) feel that a dynamo hub has value. I have used them for years and would want one on any touring bike I use. Will there be an option to include one? If not, would there be any issue with replacing the stock hub with something like a Schmidt (SON 28 15 110) front hub with the Wren fork? This might be a question for the guys over a Wren.
I really wanted the dynamo to be the solution to all my charging woes, but it just didn’t perform. There are more expensive models that might do the trick, and yes, you could easily add it on, but priority won’t have that option.
@@mateodiego3481 stoked to have your riding a Wren friend. Happy Trails 🚴♀️
I'm sold on this bike. I have wanted to get an adventure that can go off-road (my current touring bike is set up for on road rides, like RAGBRAI). Thank you for putting in the hard rides and sharing so we all know this newer drivetrain can hold up to hard use and extreme temperature variation.
Wow wasn’t expecting a tech heavy wrap up to your epic trip & I’ll be clear I’m a Gravel guy not a MTB guy but that said no question IF I ever get a MTB bike it will be this one, thanks Ryan!
Gravel is cool too, we'll be here if you ever change your mind ;)
Awesome bike...Cannot wait to buy one...Thx for another excellent review....
If you want one soonish, I'd put down your order soon, we're selling out.
This is how all advertising should be. Informative, charming, heartfelt. Bravo and may you live long and prosper!
This is an engineering wonder, lovingly created. That said, I don't need one. I'm perfectly happy with my Trek 850 that I bought BC (before children), and I expect it to outlive me. But I can see that this bike will be the perfect choice for many.
cheers from sunny rainy Vienna, Scott
I have a rohloff hub bike for about 7 years now. If I had to do it over again these days I'd definitely get a pinion drive bike like the priority.
For what reasons?
Thanks for this detailed review. It is possible that your review of the fork and the info on accepting the wider tires created extra motivation to order the bike. As part of my research on Gates belt drive bikes a few years back I came across your Minneapolis winter ride on a Priority bike. I started following your adventures on TH-cam after that. Watching your Great Divide trip I finally saw the bike I had to acquire. I had been debating with myself on the merits of buying a Priority 600, but when you previewed the 600X you sealed the deal I finally saw the bike that was going to meet multiple applications of a winter snow bike, bike packing, mountain bike, and extreme gravel.
That's awesome! Glad you found me long ago, and glad that we finally made your dream bike, mine too ;)
@@duzer You should use your influence with Priority and have them send the gravel bike to Laura and Russ at www.pathlesspedaled.com for them to review.
I’m sure if they asked, they’d get one to review.
Yes the Volt saddle by WTB is great and thanks to you Ryan that's why I own one. Peace and love.
Good to hear! That's a sweet little seat
Awesome video and bike Ryan. Love the bike. This is the future of non-electric bike. Now Priority needs to put that front shock in their e-bike and we have a sale. Keep up the great work my friend.
Wow, what a bike!! I want one, your reviews and just being a great guy is awesome... God bless your rides sir 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks so much!
Anxiously waiting for mine...pre-ordered awhile back...this pretty much guarantees 2021 is going to be a great year!
Right on! You’re gonna be a happy camper
What does it cost ?
@@JSJ1978 $3000 if you order now...after the preorder time it goes to $3500.
@@CraigPringle ok, thanks
I couldn't resist it any longer. I just ordered it.
Right on!! Glad you snuck in for the first batch of 600x’s. You’ll be a happy Doug on delivery day;)
More manufacturers need you to review and design their gear. Love this stuff, man.
Thanks, we’re really excited about the bike!
What absolute marvelous components What an absolute marvelous bike! - I rarely have time to ride, so I can not say I need the Priority 600X what I can say is for bike packing this would certainly be the way to go with regards to maintenance of the drivetrain. CONGRATS Ryan for your input and to the rest of the team who worked with Priority for making something SOOOOOOOOOOOOO AWESOME
Thank you! We’re very excited about it
Lol….. your monthly cheque is in the mail Dale! Keep those positive reviews coming colleague, errr I mean partner, errr I mean guy we don’t have on the payroll. Lol
Great Information Brother 😎. These Bike Builders Are Very Clear and Professional! ✌️👍🤔
This is a cool bike i wish i have the money to afford it, but overall this bike is friendly in all situation of biking im gonna save some money for this!
Love from Philippines Ryan ride safe!
Excellent video, understandable, well explained and the whys,,,,,all of you did well
Dude, I love your energy!
Das war einmal ein anderes Video als sonst und wirklich toll. Total different kind of video compared to your other cool stuff and it was so interesting. The right questions and the most important answers! Thanks Ryan. Only the german map looks strange. It looks like we have only a coulpe of towns here :-) . Very informative!
Thanks, I appreciate that! I kept the map simple so as not to confuse people with too much information. Cheers!
@@duzer I wish the map was like Germany should be. It would be more space, fewer cities and more wilderness, so that we could enjoy the feeling of being somewhere in nowhere now and then. Prost zurück und genieße die Zeit!
Good on you. You can't go wrong with your life style. Inspirational happiness
You really know the workers and love that went into this bike ,not just frame but everything ,thinking thats a forever bike !!
Yep, it's a big family of friends put this together!
Great review! It was great to see the changes made to the bike based on your ride.
Thanks, so excited about this!
Bike looks really sweet!
Fun and nerdy! Just the way I like my review videos. Excellent job 🤓
Right on!! Come here for nerdiness whenever you need a fix!
I ordered mine and am stoked to ride it! I’ve been debating on my next touring bike and then Priority finally unveiled the final product! Thanks for all the beta on it and keeping the price down. I really thought the finished product was going to be up closer to $10,000, which is out of my range. RIde on! 👍🏼 🚴
You're gonna LOVE it! Happy Trails
$10,000? Lolololol
Great review Ryan, I’m very happy your views and suggestions were listened to as the upgrades will make this an even better bikepacking bike. Unfortunately, and you’ll have to blame John and Mira for this, I’ve placed an order with Salsa. I didn’t go with the Blackborow, but the Beargrease will do me fine. In looking at the 600x I was worried about support in Australia and that there wasn’t a size available in XL😊🇦🇺
That's awesome, you'll love that bike! Happy trails my friend
I gotta say it's a sweet looking ride. I'm not sure the extra one-kg (2.2 pounds) for the Pinion gearbox is worth it, but no maintenance on the ride is nice. Also I don't need the front shock. I have 27.5+ with 2.8 rangers. I run 10-15PSI on rocky terrain and I get all the "suspension" I need from that. The bike is really a good deal particularly when you compare it to co-motion which would be almost double the price. Good review!
Ryan - you are The MAN! My wife and I have been following you for a month now. We both have down-payments for the 600X, we expect to ride the Divide next year in July so your GDMBR video series was very enjoyable to watch. I have one obvious suggestion - so obvious that I don't know why I even have to mention it.... The model name of the bike is currently 600 X - kinda boring. I suggest a new name - The Van Duzer Cruzer!!!!
You're Welcome!
Right on! you both are gonna LOVE riding the 600x on the Divide next year. The unofficial name is certainly the DuzerCruzer, I hope you tell people that when they ask you about your bike ;)
Thank you so much Ryan, great video and great bike. I believe the price is reasonable, I wish I could have one asap.
Thanks for putting out the update on it. You answered every question I had after watching your other videos from the Great Divide.
Sad to see the dynamo go though. Recharging on the go seemed like it would have completed the package.
I wanted the dynamo to be the answer to all my charging woes, but it just didn’t perform. There are higher quality versions that cost 300 bucks that might do the trick
@@duzer I appreciate your honest input. You make a great point though that a 20K mah battery pack should satisfy most anyone’s electrical needs for a number of days.
Love the small tweaks for the production version. Especially the mounting points on the stays and larger frame area for a bigger bag.
Yeah, so excited about all the mounting points!
@@duzer gave in and ordered one tonight. Fingers crossed I enjoy it as much as you.
So cool you get to work on your own project! I'm quite interested in the priority 600 still when I can move somewhere I can commute everywhere!
That's still my go to everyday bike! Hope you move to a bike friendly area soon
@@duzer thanks im working all the angles I can on LinkedIn!
ordered mine when you first talked about. Excited and waiting
Right on! You're gonna LOVE it
Thank You! A Most Awesome and Gloriously Informative Video! Safe Rides and Blessings Always!😶🇺🇸
Epic intro. Epic bike. Epic review my dude 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Thanks my man, we’re pretty excited about it
@@duzer can’t imagine what the entire process was like. And now seeing it all come full circle! Stoked for all of you brotherrrrr!
I just entered into the raffle to won this bike, and its for a good cause! Thanks Ryan!
Thank you my friend!!!
I really like all of the work, improvements, and collaboration that came into this bike. I've been a reservation holder for a couple weeks now thanks to your videos and will hopefully get a copy of this bike when it comes in production in Q1!
Personally I feel that this ticks all the boxes for the perfect bike and the modularity means that you can customize it. Eventually the plan is to electrify this bike when battery and motor prices come down a little. I think that the pinion and belt drive system can take the extra strain... But it's just an idea and I'm sure I'll find the pedal assist alone to be sufficient.
Really think this is a game-changing bicycle that will probably be copied a ton by the big biking companies when the release is successful.
I'm excited to hear that you're on the list, you're gonna LOVE this bike!
Yes I watch your ride in Canada and it was awesome hope i can ride with you but it was impossible👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻goid job by the way👍
I just bought the Apollo, but this is the next bike on my list for sure!
The Apollo is sweet!!
So happy to see this video since I have preordered the bike. I was excited before about getting it but now I’m VERY excited!!
Can’t wait for it to arrive 1st quarter.
YOU ARE GONNA LOVE IT!!!
Convinced my wife this would make a great birthday, Xmas and anniversary gift!! Looking forward to gearing up for my first overnight in PA. Come do the GAP trail sometime!!
I hope your skills of persuasion worked ;) Have fun on your first overnighter!
I love the gear ratio from pinion, the simplicity of the belt drive from gates, and the many attachment points, and the wren forks. It's got to be a labor of love for you to design, test, and be able to give your final approval on a design that meets the everyday rider, as well as the hardcore enthusiast who spends hundreds of miles on trails. And you're right. It's a pretty penny. But you can't do better with the same options elsewhere. And keeping the setup as minimalistic and as reasonably light (and strong) as possible is great, for not only the potential heavier rider, but also for more gear to be stowed on the bike.
I love the Wren -- the Lefty's inverted design is part of what makes it so responsive.
Running needle roller bearings instead of bushings for the sliding elements was what made the Lefty so good (Until any contamination at all got into the bearings and they started rusting). The Marzocchi Shiver is probably a better comparison as this has the benefit that the oil bath in the fork was permanently sitting on the fork bushings, so everything stayed as perfectly lubricated as possible. However, the Wren appears to be a closed oil bath fork, based on the damper, so lubrication may be no better than current closed bath right side up forks, so all you've got is the lower unsprung weight offset by significantly more steering flex, which is the reason most forks are not laid this way.
A huge benefit upside down forks offer for bikepacking is that when you mount things on the fork legs they're part of the sprung weight rather than unsprung, so the suspension works better rather than worse as weight is added. The benefit to right way up forks in this scenario is that you don't need to change the suspension pressure to account for weight added to the fork legs. Other benefits are steering stiffness as mentioned earlier, and that leaking oil from the fork seals will take longer to contaminate the disk because it has to run down a lot more fork leg do get there, so it gives you a better chance of spotting it and wiping it away before an issue arises.
All my forks die due to bushings wearing out and the cost to send them for bushing replacement, combined with the replacement charge itself is usually too close to the cost of buying another completely new fork to justify continuing with the existing one and waiting for a fatigue failure, so if replacing the fork bushings in the Wren is straightforward they might have another customer - the Wren website making no mention whatsoever of bushing replacement makes me suspect they're no better than anyone else in this regard. Old Marzocchi Bombers had fork bushings you could replace by hand with no special tools at all - a flat head screwdriver was about as much as was needed - if they're doing this then they'd probably be shouting it from the rooftops though.
I'm really waiting for the likes of the Lauf leaf spring forks, which potentially are maintenance free as they have no moving parts, only flexing parts, to hit the 400-600 dollar range (Which shouldn't be a problem given their mechanical simplicity compared to everything else) so I can ditch all the overcomplicated shenanigans involved in telescopic forks altogether.
Excited to hear about the 29 x 2.8 tire widths and the KICKSTAND ... it is on my purchasing horizon for my all arounder.
I'm happy about those upgrades too
Duzer, thanks for this video. Thinking about your Great Divide ride this morning on my Brilliant, 3 speed, 17 mile ride and what a wimpy ride I'm taking, but it's certainly better than no ride at all. I'd love to have that Priority 600, but I'm not getting any younger, we'll hvr t srr about that. I think about the rides you'll be taking when your're 88, probably the Great Divide, just maybe a bit longer time line. Blessings and following.
Hello Bill! Any ride is a great ride, enjoy that bike, it's a good one! Thanks for watching my videos
Ryan Happy Thursday, 12:52 am! Man nice work on this one. A very nice bike. I am so stoked you and priority are spec-Ing the Wren Fork. I hope to have one soon. And someday soon a 600x! Keep up the great adventures! What a cool bike and it’s finally here. I want one with a “ Plaid” Gates belt....and a plaid frame bag!
Plaid!! Coming right up ;)
I'm going to bring 'Plaid' decals for the Wren forks on our next executives skype call!
@@renaissancecyclist9120 nice keep me posted
Sick edit! Nice!
Thanks!!
2020 Is the year I discovered bike packing. Due to Covid-19 restriction and because I am a broke student I didn't have the money to go on a traditional vacation. I did two trips during my summer break. I cycled from the northern tip of the Netherlands to the south +- 300miles. The second trip was a few weeks later because I liked it so much. I cycled from Austria, trough Switzerland, trough Germany back to my home in the Netherlands +-620Miles in 10 days. If I had not found your channel I (and my cousin which I managed to convince to join me) probably wouldn't have gone on such a trip so, thank you for that. I did both trips on my 'Gazelle Medeo city 64-inch' city bike which is not made for anything of off-road, but it survived non the less. the Priority 600x looks like an awesome bike which I hopefully can afford one day. Be save out there.
I love hearing this!! So glad to hear that you got out there and saw Europe by bike! I really wanna ride in your country someday, nice and flat ;)
Wow excellent components at an incredible price. My girlfriend would kill me if I bought another bike. Just got one in July but I really WANT this bike.
You don't wanna make your GF mad....or do you? :)
so sick Ryan! I ended up getting a Salsa ti fargo for my new bikepacking bike!
Right on! Happy trails
I'm totally sold on the gearbox,no need for rear mech breaking,chain snapping etc,brilliant idea!
I love it!
Great day today! My "Van Duzer Cruiser" arrived at my home today. I was acting like a kid at Christmas, not able to get the box open fast enough. I got my Priority 600 X put together and took my first ride!!!!!
Love it!! I wish you all the best on that home. Lots of adventures to come
Kickstands are always cool. BTW I put in my order in for the 600x. Excited.
I'm glad you think so!
I'm not so sure about that...
I've always found them problematic. Asking the bike to teeter on its own, just waiting for an excuse to fall over. If it's properly propped against something, it's less likely to fall over. And it CAN'T fall over if it's properly rested on its left side on the ground!
I just watched "Bikes of Wrath" last night about five Aussies who decided to come to the US to ride Route 66 described in John Steinbeck's book.
On NUMEROUS occasions, their loaded bikes fell over! It became a recurring theme in the documentary.
I said to my wife, "And that's why you don't use kicks stands on loaded touring bikes!"
@@dudeonbike800 have one on my bike, done about 30,000kms on it. yes it's fallen over... but so do bikes leaning against stuff.
Ryan, thank you to whoever is responsible for the room for 29x2.8 tires! That sealed the deal for me! 👍 My Stache is now for sale. 😉
I really pushed for that, I love wide tires! You’re gonna love this bike
I agree! This was news to me today, learning 29X2.8 was possible sealed the deal. I completely dropped my desire for a new Trek 29er that I was looking at and placed my order today.
@@stevenordrum3026 DANG! You're a fast mover, you're gonna be a happy camper
Planning a front fork for one of my fat bikes next year, will definitely check out that Wren option!
I’ve seen a lot of fat bikers with the Wren!
Cameron from the video here with Wren! We'd be stoked to get you riding on Wren my friend. Let me know if you have any questions or if there's anyway I can help you. Happy Trails,
Great bike!
The bike and all the new gears are great, my only concern is the weight,I am not familiar with Bikes like this but when weight is so important 33 pounds seems high to me. My Gravel bike with its old components weighs 22 pounds. Thanks for the video Ryan, I will check It up at priority!
If I wasn't a panniers-fully-loaded-front-and-back-along-with-a-rear-rack-pack-kinda-guy I would be all over this bike.
Being a cold weather cyclist my stuff takes a lot of space so the traditional setup fits me a bit better over the frugal equipment of bikepacking. Also I like my comforts while at camp. I am however fascinated with the Gates Carbon drive and Pinion gearbox. I would really like to see that on my next touring bike.
I hear you man, panniers are great for carrying more stuff! Hope you're doing well, must be really dark these days up there!
@@duzer a ride from sunrise to sunset is a really short one these days. The term riding a "full day" really loses its meaning now but gets really expanded during summers. ;)
Check out Comotion Bicycles in Eugene. They have some Gates Pinion bikes
I need to make it out there at some point!
id love to fit a 36v 250w geared hub motor on the rear of one of these with the pinion gearbox and turn it into a camping beast. At like 52v 10A max, with a decent battery and conservative throttle use, you could get 2 days out of a charge and have a unique bike. I've been setting my 36v hub motors up with 52v batteries and controllers, but instead of running the original 15a max at 36v (540w), i limit the controller to 10A at 52v (520w). Gives a top speed of 43kph vs the original 30, but has less kick off the line, and smoother delivery, alongside less strain on the battery. It makes it feel more like a bike. With my 30ah battery, no PAS, and conservative throttle use i got 146km out of one charge over 2 days, and the battery doubled as a power bank for my lights, phone, speaker and tablet at the same time. When i get to my camp site, i can set up a few lights and run them off my battery for some basic comfort while setting up. It doesn't really make riding that much easier as its underpowered. I still suffer, but i find that i arrive at my designated campsites that hour or so earlier every day, suffer less cramps, and have a convenient way to charge electronics and lights.
If i could find a torque sensor equipped bottom bracket, i would be over the moon.
Great bike science and engineering .
Hi Ryan, thanks for the videos.. they are great!!
I am a Rohloff rider on a Surly troll, which is very good for off-road riding and touring thanks to low maintenance like pinon gear box.
However, I find the Rohloff having quite a lot of friction inside the hub and is noticeable when spinning the wheel compared with a traditional hub.
I wonder if you have noticed the same kind of friction with the pinion and if yes, how bad it feels?
many thanks once again!
take care
Sergio
Nice presentation. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Love for you to make video about the road surfaces and tire thoughts for the GDRMB... Maybe include some video of surfaces and also some shots of your amazing arial shots. Ive not been able to find much video of expected riding terrain and it might be popular with others like me for years to come.
It’s pretty darn smooth the whole way, I’m talking beautiful dirt roads. I’ve heard that NM is rougher...I’ll find out someday
I just bought a similar bike, 2022 TREK DISTRICT 4, it is an AMAZING BIKE, prior I had a FOCUS bike for 7 years, also with a belt drive and internal gear hub, still runs flawlessly, I was just ready for something new. I will NEVER go back to a chain/gears!
Oh cool! Glad to see that Trek is back using belt drives
This bike is soooooooo slick! I’m not even in the market for a bike, but I want it!
It’s pretty darn sweet
Great review Ryan!
I live in a flat area and my suggestion to Dirk from Pinion would be to make a 2nd version of the Pinion gearbox with 12speeds BUT with closer ratios (less than 17% per gear). I don't need super low gears where I am so a "road version" of the Pinion box (in addition to the existing 'adventure version') would be great! All they need to do is change the ratios inside the box, very little extra R&D required. This could be a BIG SELLER for them if they manufacture it in volume and got it installed on some big manufacturers road bikes. If you could pass on my suggestion, thanks.
Awesome, thorough review! Question: Since you now have both the 600 and 600x, which will you use more for daily commuting? What are the drawbacks, if any, of the 600x for daily urban riding? Also, do you think you could have done the Great Divide ride with the 600? Thanks!
I’ll use the 600 for commuting. The 600x is overkill, it’s a mountain bike, meant for dirt. I probably could have ridden the 600 on the divide, but it wouldn’t have been as comfortable.
Sweet bike ! 👍😎
“Kickstands are cool again!” 😂 Couldn’t agree more on the necessity of a beefy kick stand especially as I’m on and off my bike a ton filming throughout the day. Each time I lay my bike down in the road to set up a shot….i long for the ability to do that 8 year old kid kick the stand.
It’s a great feeling to kick out the kick stand!
Yep, this is the bike to get~
So cool to have a Wren fork on your 600x. I have worked with him and Russ for a number of years at my festival. They have been super supportive at local little fests by supporting with donations and having a booth to inform riders. I would love to have a Wren fork on both my bikes as I feel they are way ahed of the curve and game in suspension. I would give my left kidney for one of these forks. Plus i amy have to sell my ht plus bike to buy the Priority bike
That's great to hear! They seem like an awesome company.
Thanks for the love ❤️ friends.
Happy Trails - Cameron.
Very cool bike.
Nice little rig fer sure
I love my priority 600, the drivetrain is bombproof!
It’s my workhorse everyday bike too!
I have been talking to Kevin Wren for months off and on about a fork for my fat bike. The company is truly awesome . I will have every Wren product I need for sure! Stomp Strong!
Right on, Kevin is a great guy
Good to see you on the youtube forums as well Stomp. Happy Trails Friend - Cameron.
Hi Ryan, first let me say that you've been a real inspiration for me. I can watch your videos for days. And I've learnt a great deai from it. So, my first real bikepacking trip was a huge succes thanks to you. The thing I miss is the "Get Out There" logo on your bike. I'd like to use it on mine and would like your approval to do so. I hope you agree.
Thanks for watching my videos!! Of course you can use the logo. Happy trails
Love this bike.! Takes a little getting used to with the pinion but great bike.
Me too!! ;)