3:14-3:32 my interpretation of this part is that the older brother has a daughter himself with another woman. “He hates the way you look at me. You’re already dead” and “if he wakes up, he’ll show you what I’m talking about”. To me, in this part ethel is singing to the daughter, they both share a knowing look, both being victims of the same man’s abuse. She proclaims they’re both already dead meaning they have both already experienced it. Everytime he wakes up the cycle of abuse continues to both the sister and the daughter. Maybe the daughter is ethel’s as well but the way she talks about it seems disconnected maybe in denial it truly is hers because of the rape and incest. Not sure but when I read those lines this is what I thought of
Thats an interesting take! When I heard the song I honestly thought the rapist she's referring to is her grandfather. The song being called inbred kind of insinuates complicated family dynamics and she references her bedridden mother, who I assumed is the "baby" in the "her daddy's a rapist" line. Like, "does your daughter know you do this to me?" I visualized her idolizing her protective but also sociopathic brother as an escape from a grandfather who is likely acting as their primary caregiver due to the mother being sick/addicted to something. It sounds like she is fantasizing about her brother finding out and harming him to protect her, though there is no guarantee he would or even that he doesn't already know. She says "he hates the way you look at me" kind of suggesting maybe he knows something. Her perception of love/attachment is unhealthy because of the abuse/her upbringing so she transfers romantic attachment to her brother to endure her grandfather. The whole song feels like a threat, there is an awareness they are all bad/wrong to some extent, but she is pointing to her abuser as the worst of them all. She is aware her brother is always the one in trouble with the cops, but its her abuser that is trying to keep his secrets. She knows he is worse and that her brother is troubled, not evil, because to some extent he makes her feel safe.
You see i like ethel cain alot because her delivery is unclear enough that you can blast this as loud as ti deserves and no one but you knows what she's saying
@@Hey_Jamiei Can always tell what she’s saying if I listen to it, what drew me to her music was just listening to her lyrics maybe you guys have…a hearing problem
Only few response to this? WTF? Her work is over the top and comes to us at such perfect timing. I'm saying this as an old previous 70s glam rock, gone alt, gone this gone that fan, until finally understanding and appreciating only the greater creations through them all. This awakened working class America is where our immediate future is heading. The Predatory Capitalist society is collapsing and she is on the forefront helping us along. Wake up people! Thank You milkartonangel for submitting.
"Pissing on the stove to put the fire out" I know she doesn't know what this means but maybe subconsciously, its a reference to poverty. Maybe having to cook food in inventive ways and can't spare water to put the self-made fire out. If he's the fire, and she pisses on him, maybe it echoes "touch me til i vomit'. Her body reacts in repulsed and averted ways to the acts.
2:00 I just blow up .. spine and head pure tingles. Rarely does that feeling ever reach my skull with music. This stuff is just beautiful. The howl and crescendo at the end is just so F'ing good.
People misinterpret this song a lot, there’s the obvious theme of her incestuous relationship with her brother but she idolises him she feels he is her protector, when she refers to the abuser (the rapist) she’s speaking about someone else that her brother confronts and fights/possibly kills for what he’s done to her “he hates the way you look at me you’re already dead” there’s a more in depth analysis on the lyrics page for it but I’m just saying it bc a lot of people seem to think she means her brother rapes her when actually her thing with him is consensual and she loves him.
@@carriethompson84 as far as I know she doesn’t actually have a brother but she might be I’m not too sure x Ethel Cain as a whole is a persona Hayden made up though so I doubt it
Or it could be she has a love/hate relationship with him because she idolizes him as her protector but her trauma has her disassociating his identity from that of her abuser and sees them as two separate people.
This song, and others like it, by this artist, make me sick to my stomach. Not because they're bad, just because I don't know if I could have survived at all in a life like that. Is there anything I can do for you?
I know she said none of her previous work is related to the Ethel Cain lore, but this feel like an AU where Ethel's mom is actually dead, she and her brother kill their father and he goes down for it to protect her. Since he feels responsible for all the things Ethel went through and he was too focused on going through his own trauma. Wich would also make sense with the Family Tree lyrics "I've killed before and I'll kill again"... I still hope in the Canon lore she still had something to do with her father's deth
"You can't win 'em all" Her brother was smooth and could have had anyone, he wanted her because he wasnt supposed to. He can never "win" her though. Not in spirit and its not like this could ever be a relationship.
"From the start they knew you were wrong" He was born damaged in some way, either in spirit or mind or both. And of course that leads into "you were wrong" to do what he did
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3:14-3:32 my interpretation of this part is that the older brother has a daughter himself with another woman. “He hates the way you look at me. You’re already dead” and “if he wakes up, he’ll show you what I’m talking about”. To me, in this part ethel is singing to the daughter, they both share a knowing look, both being victims of the same man’s abuse. She proclaims they’re both already dead meaning they have both already experienced it. Everytime he wakes up the cycle of abuse continues to both the sister and the daughter. Maybe the daughter is ethel’s as well but the way she talks about it seems disconnected maybe in denial it truly is hers because of the rape and incest. Not sure but when I read those lines this is what I thought of
the older brother is the "he", ethel said it in a genius annotation ^^
Thats an interesting take! When I heard the song I honestly thought the rapist she's referring to is her grandfather. The song being called inbred kind of insinuates complicated family dynamics and she references her bedridden mother, who I assumed is the "baby" in the "her daddy's a rapist" line. Like, "does your daughter know you do this to me?" I visualized her idolizing her protective but also sociopathic brother as an escape from a grandfather who is likely acting as their primary caregiver due to the mother being sick/addicted to something. It sounds like she is fantasizing about her brother finding out and harming him to protect her, though there is no guarantee he would or even that he doesn't already know. She says "he hates the way you look at me" kind of suggesting maybe he knows something. Her perception of love/attachment is unhealthy because of the abuse/her upbringing so she transfers romantic attachment to her brother to endure her grandfather. The whole song feels like a threat, there is an awareness they are all bad/wrong to some extent, but she is pointing to her abuser as the worst of them all. She is aware her brother is always the one in trouble with the cops, but its her abuser that is trying to keep his secrets. She knows he is worse and that her brother is troubled, not evil, because to some extent he makes her feel safe.
You see i like ethel cain alot because her delivery is unclear enough that you can blast this as loud as ti deserves and no one but you knows what she's saying
her delivery is clear
@@yuripiIIed it absolutely isn’t
@@Hey_Jamie thats a you issue
@@Hey_Jamiei Can always tell what she’s saying if I listen to it, what drew me to her music was just listening to her lyrics maybe you guys have…a hearing problem
The vocals on Cain are unbelievable Ethel Cain deserves more views
Rip Ethel Cain you would've loved Resident Evil 7
GOODBYEEEE HAHA
I love music that makes me feel sick-
I have listened to this 900 times trying to piece the story together. I absolutely love her music
Gorgeous. This is art in a time where it's desperately needed. Lyrically this is up there with her best
when it is*** not where
Only few response to this? WTF? Her work is over the top and comes to us at such perfect timing. I'm saying this as an old previous 70s glam rock, gone alt, gone this gone that fan, until finally understanding and appreciating only the greater creations through them all. This awakened working class America is where our immediate future is heading. The Predatory Capitalist society is collapsing and she is on the forefront helping us along. Wake up people! Thank You milkartonangel for submitting.
i love ur way with words
@ltwig476 couldn't agree more- this music is *timeless*
this song hurts my spirit but i listen to it constantly
"Pissing on the stove to put the fire out"
I know she doesn't know what this means but maybe subconsciously, its a reference to poverty. Maybe having to cook food in inventive ways and can't spare water to put the self-made fire out. If he's the fire, and she pisses on him, maybe it echoes "touch me til i vomit'. Her body reacts in repulsed and averted ways to the acts.
Yessss
2:00 I just blow up .. spine and head pure tingles. Rarely does that feeling ever reach my skull with music. This stuff is just beautiful. The howl and crescendo at the end is just so F'ing good.
Look up her talking about "rings"
Flowers in the attic vibe
I know, right?!
OMG YES
I read the books.... still disturbed
I read it last week im never gonna recover
@@emilyjones9787 Yesss!
This song is is sickening in the best way
Woww the high notes at the enddd idk she could sing like that🫠
People misinterpret this song a lot, there’s the obvious theme of her incestuous relationship with her brother but she idolises him she feels he is her protector, when she refers to the abuser (the rapist) she’s speaking about someone else that her brother confronts and fights/possibly kills for what he’s done to her “he hates the way you look at me you’re already dead” there’s a more in depth analysis on the lyrics page for it but I’m just saying it bc a lot of people seem to think she means her brother rapes her when actually her thing with him is consensual and she loves him.
Do u think or even know if she's writing based on true events?
@@carriethompson84 as far as I know she doesn’t actually have a brother but she might be I’m not too sure x Ethel Cain as a whole is a persona Hayden made up though so I doubt it
She has atleast one brother! Can't remember if it was one or two, but she has Three siblings
Or it could be she has a love/hate relationship with him because she idolizes him as her protector but her trauma has her disassociating his identity from that of her abuser and sees them as two separate people.
@@elizabethhuber434 interesting take!
My situation was a bit different, but I relate to this so profoundly. Anyone else?
Me too, I find it actually comforting to listen to this song because it numbs me sm
This song, and others like it, by this artist, make me sick to my stomach. Not because they're bad, just because I don't know if I could have survived at all in a life like that. Is there anything I can do for you?
same
Same
You aren't alone
I know she said none of her previous work is related to the Ethel Cain lore, but this feel like an AU where Ethel's mom is actually dead, she and her brother kill their father and he goes down for it to protect her. Since he feels responsible for all the things Ethel went through and he was too focused on going through his own trauma. Wich would also make sense with the Family Tree lyrics "I've killed before and I'll kill again"... I still hope in the Canon lore she still had something to do with her father's deth
Her music fills me with an unexplainable feeling of dread and I love it
I wish this font was easier to read
Haha funny
Same
this hits way too close to home
"I'm bad he's worse we're already dead"
"You can't win 'em all"
Her brother was smooth and could have had anyone, he wanted her because he wasnt supposed to. He can never "win" her though. Not in spirit and its not like this could ever be a relationship.
her music rips and tears at my heart. It breaks it and heals it at the same time.. I love mother cain. 🤍
"From the start they knew you were wrong"
He was born damaged in some way, either in spirit or mind or both.
And of course that leads into "you were wrong" to do what he did
splattergore
i would recognize him immediately
that's a music talks to soul
mitskiとコラボするって本当かな
got to see a pond and swans. that was a first riiiight???
alone at school
where did you get the picture?
You can Screenshot it and image search it
🔺⚜️🔻
Obviously no ones read the book The Concrete Garden 😒 lots of direct reference here
You mean The Cement Garden?
Okay? Sorry I never read this book I never heard of before discovering this singer.
My brother
Yep
Yep
Yep
Yep
😶
What the fac did eth L jus do to mi inbred assss!!!!
you're an inbred?
Yall are really frothing at the mouth for… this…? Okay I guess
You dont get it. Youre not that special sadly
u don’t deserve to be here. sadly..
i like to play and draw
well yes!
who asked