Every Type R will do this, even the unfairly underrated FN2. As soon as it's a bit damp, it will slide all day. I'm glad that character remains in a modern chassis as well.
The most dangerous car I’ve ever driven is an ep3 with an upgraded rear arb, dodgy tyres and overly stiff suspension. I was basically full lock every single corner trying to correct the ridiculous slides it would do on turn in. In the dry is amazing though
So many things went wrong this day. Unfortunately I had to leave as soon as you guys made it to the track. I still don't understand how these oversteer. It's magic.
Remove pressure in the tyres and your oversteer will diminish, what brake fluid you running as normally we get 10 to 15 minutes before brake fade with endless or motul 650 fluid.
It's lift-off oversteer. FWD experience a lot of it because all of the weight is in the front. Once you lose speed by braking or even just lifting off the throttle while entering the corner, it's going to try and do a spin. Performance FWD cars might have even more because of stiffer rears. As mentioned in the video, if you get too much angle you just step on the throttle to get out of the spin. To completely avoid it, you'll have to avoid letting off the throttle entirely when entering corners.
Do you need track insurance when you take your cars out to a track day? Been wanting to take my car out but been a bit paranoid about a bunch of things like insurance and what it'll need to be ready
If they put a manual in the new Prelude. Honda has already made 3 hybrid manuals. CR-Z. First-gen Insight. Briefly the Civic Hybrid. A manual hybrid isn’t impossible. Honda can do it again with the new Prelude.
Those hp pads you got are more of a street pad, they have an aggressive drop off on stopping force after a relatively low temperature. I believe 600f? Look into G-LOC pads, Carbotech pads, maybe even endless pads. Compare and contrast the data on there pads and find which compound suits your driving.
100% true. Swapped to dot4 a few years back and saw immediate results. Had been racing a 9g SI and was doing things very incrementally as I saw needs. That little thing was a really noticeable difference
the subaru love promise continues to grow at every event. definitely want to reconsider listening to whomever recommended that model of hawk pad to you for this type of driving application. I know you'll find the right balance for you eventually! keep up the good work.
Try the Hawk hp+ out , they still work well on the street but have a lot more hot bite and stability. Downfalls are noise (I don’t really have any noise in mine) and dust, tons of dust
Hawks are meh. If Brembo makes the HP2000/HP2 for your car, you should definitely give those pads a try. VERY streetable but they have excellent track capacity.
When your Honda and then even your Toyota starts breaking I think it's time to pack it in and go home for the day, lol. And please don't hit any unicorns on the way home boys. ;)
Forreal! The S2000 AND the Cayman both had seized idler pulleys, cayman was able to roadside repair, couldn’t get the right part for the s2k…STI blew a motor, another STI cracked a rotor, GR Corolla started sounding unhappy in 3rd gear so we parked it. It was carnage lol and this is all out of ~ 10 cars there
Brakes “feel funny” after one hot lap, yet the 2 piston front calipers in the Elantra N are fine for a whole session according to some… What’s up with that?
On track you typically don’t want to see coolant above 220°F, oil temps can get up to 265°F maybe a bit higher and still be safe, depending on the oil you’re running and how pressure is looking.
The factory brake pads use the Ferodo DS2500 compound which is slightly above the HAWK HP+ compound in fade resistance and friction. The factory pads are actually pretty good daily/track dual purpose pad. There's really not many better options without stepping to a dedicated track pad.
Yeah HPS pads are street pads. It's a shame they stopped making them, but Hawk had the "Street Race" pads which were basically rounded off DTC-30s, they were amazing for dual duty.
How was the Type R with the Integra ADS module? I have been thinking about importing one to the UK as the UK roads are awful! I like the exhaust mod too, adds some more sound but not to much. I had been considering a £2000 Remus system prior to seeing this video
Well well well I Was at Honda dealership a month ago and asked do u have a new Honda type R I like have a Test 🚗 Drive ...And the told me not we didn't order because not much demand on the Car almost nobody like it New Model ...it's best last generation much better.
@@ShaiyanHossain literally mfs act like its so hard to make the chassis to as a u please. If mfs cant drive wildly accurate, they shouldnt have a 'fast' car, dante on his 2nd rt and he jus got his first one this recent summer and smacked a month into owning it. An RT.🤦🏾♂️😂😭He drive that mf like it's a Cat
All the N drivers I know agree the CTR is great if not just better. Issue is the price mark ups and availability. Hyundai N series is incredible because you can actually get and afford them.
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That slide was SICK
Every Type R will do this, even the unfairly underrated FN2. As soon as it's a bit damp, it will slide all day. I'm glad that character remains in a modern chassis as well.
The most dangerous car I’ve ever driven is an ep3 with an upgraded rear arb, dodgy tyres and overly stiff suspension. I was basically full lock every single corner trying to correct the ridiculous slides it would do on turn in. In the dry is amazing though
Man, you make it look so effortless to drive 10/10. I’d be sweating like a maniac going full focus mode. Great driving MD!
So many things went wrong this day. Unfortunately I had to leave as soon as you guys made it to the track. I still don't understand how these oversteer. It's magic.
It was bad bad juju!
Remove pressure in the tyres and your oversteer will diminish, what brake fluid you running as normally we get 10 to 15 minutes before brake fade with endless or motul 650 fluid.
It's lift-off oversteer. FWD experience a lot of it because all of the weight is in the front. Once you lose speed by braking or even just lifting off the throttle while entering the corner, it's going to try and do a spin. Performance FWD cars might have even more because of stiffer rears. As mentioned in the video, if you get too much angle you just step on the throttle to get out of the spin. To completely avoid it, you'll have to avoid letting off the throttle entirely when entering corners.
The FK8, FL5, and DE5 really like a good dedicated race pad for all the track activities.
Your living my dream bro, love watching your driving skills!
Wannabe race car drivers: FWD is shit.
Honda/hyundai: hold our sake/soju
10:08 thanks for the honorable mention!
Hope it’s not too bad to get fixed!
Do you need track insurance when you take your cars out to a track day? Been wanting to take my car out but been a bit paranoid about a bunch of things like insurance and what it'll need to be ready
You don’t need it, but it’s good peace of mind - I usually get it 👍
@@TheTopher Thank you!
@@TheTopherhow much is it n how do u get it?
@@ll.7927 Hagerty is a good option
10:30 FWD oversteer just doesn’t seem right! 😅
Honda REALLY needs to build a new RWD 6MT architecture.
If they put a manual in the new Prelude. Honda has already made 3 hybrid manuals.
CR-Z.
First-gen Insight.
Briefly the Civic Hybrid.
A manual hybrid isn’t impossible. Honda can do it again with the new Prelude.
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2:43 Doc Hudson wants to know your location haha, nice vid !
Those hp pads you got are more of a street pad, they have an aggressive drop off on stopping force after a relatively low temperature. I believe 600f? Look into G-LOC pads, Carbotech pads, maybe even endless pads. Compare and contrast the data on there pads and find which compound suits your driving.
Yeah, lesson learned- going with Paragon R5 pads up front next year
I was confused when I could control the oversteer in my FK8
You'd do much better with a good DOT4 fluid like Endless RF650 and stock pads vs OEM Fluid and any aftermarket pads
Spot on its the fluid that is just as important as pads 👌
100% true. Swapped to dot4 a few years back and saw immediate results. Had been racing a 9g SI and was doing things very incrementally as I saw needs. That little thing was a really noticeable difference
Honda is the only company where you can hear FWD and oversteer in the same sentence
Don't forget Renault! The Megane RS even has four wheel steering (which to be fair the Prelude had years ago), it rotates a lot.
Wrong, all the Hyundai N cars rotate as good or better in the corners with very predictable lift off oversteer.
the subaru love promise continues to grow at every event. definitely want to reconsider listening to whomever recommended that model of hawk pad to you for this type of driving application. I know you'll find the right balance for you eventually! keep up the good work.
Topher, which car you like driving more? Civic Type R or Gr86?? Which is more fun as a daily?
Try the Hawk hp+ out , they still work well on the street but have a lot more hot bite and stability. Downfalls are noise (I don’t really have any noise in mine) and dust, tons of dust
Hawks are meh. If Brembo makes the HP2000/HP2 for your car, you should definitely give those pads a try. VERY streetable but they have excellent track capacity.
When your Honda and then even your Toyota starts breaking I think it's time to pack it in and go home for the day, lol. And please don't hit any unicorns on the way home boys. ;)
Forreal! The S2000 AND the Cayman both had seized idler pulleys, cayman was able to roadside repair, couldn’t get the right part for the s2k…STI blew a motor, another STI cracked a rotor, GR Corolla started sounding unhappy in 3rd gear so we parked it. It was carnage lol and this is all out of ~ 10 cars there
@@TheTopher A massacre.
Obviously the Civic will be faster around a course, but which is more “fun” to drive? Type R or an ND2 MX-5 Club with a 6-Speed?
Brakes “feel funny” after one hot lap, yet the 2 piston front calipers in the Elantra N are fine for a whole session according to some… What’s up with that?
I had fwd oversteer on a rainy offramp one time in my old 5 speed nissan sentra
When you have fwd oversteer how do you fix it? Counter steer and apply throttle?
So is the integera type s damper better ?
Will you be getting a Cobb Access Port when it releases?!!! Hope you do!!!!
so...what is considered a good water and oil temperature? The manual does not specify what are the acceptable, "good" values.
On track you typically don’t want to see coolant above 220°F, oil temps can get up to 265°F maybe a bit higher and still be safe, depending on the oil you’re running and how pressure is looking.
Track day with the new RS3 next (with track tires)
Just curious what is your top speed at the end of the longest straightaway?
whatt that was a dope powerslide
The factory brake pads use the Ferodo DS2500 compound which is slightly above the HAWK HP+ compound in fade resistance and friction. The factory pads are actually pretty good daily/track dual purpose pad. There's really not many better options without stepping to a dedicated track pad.
Yeah ferodo pads are great.
Yeah HPS pads are street pads. It's a shame they stopped making them, but Hawk had the "Street Race" pads which were basically rounded off DTC-30s, they were amazing for dual duty.
How was the Type R with the Integra ADS module? I have been thinking about importing one to the UK as the UK roads are awful! I like the exhaust mod too, adds some more sound but not to much. I had been considering a £2000 Remus system prior to seeing this video
Suspension is perfect with the type s module, I’d highly recommend it 👍
What brake fluid are you running?
How you get time on gingermen in December 😭
Do you have toe out in the front?
The more i see this car the more i like it
The r drift is beautiful
Will the integra module get rid of the wheel hop?
Upgrade the rear motor mount if you want to get rid of wheel hop. Personally use the 27won 70a mount.
I prefer the Golf R honestly. When can you do a Clubman JCW ?
Golf r better daily - comfort, interior etc, but feels nothing like a type r.
U sir, not only a car guy, but also a watch guy hah hah…. Nice looking speedy and Bark &Jack nato strap I suppose?! 👌😬
OMG can't wait to buy one at the dealer marked up for 100k!!!!!!!!!!! 🤩
They're @ msrp all over the county but keep going
Nice Car
Passenger bro should have worn matching red pants.
3:57
You know DK stands for? It means drift king! (insert Tokyo drift Music)
Subarus breaking?! Wait a minute, hold the phone! 🤭🤭🤭
Well well well I Was at Honda dealership a month ago and asked do u have a new Honda type R I like have a Test 🚗 Drive ...And the told me not we didn't order because not much demand on the Car almost nobody like it New Model ...it's best last generation much better.
That’s so sad
Dealers don't order a fl5. They are sent them based on previous type r sales. They don't get to pick color They are sent what they are sent.
And I talk about sliding my Si and all my srt buddy's think I'm lyin
i have a stiffer rear sway bar on the integra and its pretty easy to kick the ass end out. your srt friends need to get good
@@ShaiyanHossain literally mfs act like its so hard to make the chassis to as a u please. If mfs cant drive wildly accurate, they shouldnt have a 'fast' car, dante on his 2nd rt and he jus got his first one this recent summer and smacked a month into owning it. An RT.🤦🏾♂️😂😭He drive that mf like it's a Cat
I can't like this because there are 666 likes. 😄 can't wait till it warms up and I can get my R out again.
Right about now cue up the Elantra N sycophants chiming in that the CTR is garbage and the EN is by far the better car…😂
Better value, most would buy this instead if it was cheaper
All the N drivers I know agree the CTR is great if not just better. Issue is the price mark ups and availability.
Hyundai N series is incredible because you can actually get and afford them.
@@fireemblemaddict128 I really don't see many CTR or EN rolling around my area..
I’ve had my 2019 FK8 for 3 and a half years but I’m wanting a Elantra N in a DCT. I’ve had stick shifts all my life so looking to get away from it
The N cars are as fun or more to drive on track, more affordable, and come with track warranty. That's just reality.
Needs an automatic.
Defeats the purpose of this being a drivers car
CVT would be 🤌
@@TheTopherAll things considered, Subaru's new CVT in the WRX is far from the worst that could be had haha
@@kyleroberts6472they sound awful when one drives by. Especially when somebody with a CVT WRX has a modified exhaust.
Needs a DCT not a garbage CVT. Coming from a manual the DCT is very fun to drive.
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