As a kid who grew up in Minnesota, The Coliseum holds a special place in my heart. Going to indoor baseball my early years, then having my dad take me to Oakland on a business trip and my first experience in an outdoor park was magical. I feel bad for Athletics fans.
I think it is more on the owner than the city. The owner is a billionaire and won’t put up his own money to help build a new ballpark, but would buy land in Vegas to build a stadium there. I still don’t get why the owner of the A’s would not fund more of a new stadium in Oakland. They could be good in Vegas, but not sure if Vegas will be a MLB hotspot.
The irony is the fact that the Raiders moved to LV due to the A’s. The Raiders wanted to redevelop the Coliseum Site, but were basically blocked by the A’s when Oakland decided to extend their lease and make them the primary Tennant of the Coliseum under the agreement that the team would stay In Oakland. The A’s squatted on the lease which basically kept the Raiders from redeveloping the site ultimately frustrated with the situation the Raiders relocated to LV. Now the A’s when the City and county were ready to hash out the final details on the Howard Terminal site ( literally a week away from the negotiations summit) A’s ownership pulled out, blind siding the city and announced they are planning on moving to LV down the street from the Raiders. Now the city is not without fault the politics in California are lined with red tape, but every ask the A’s had the City met. The cost of the Howard Terminal deal kept rising because the A’s wanted to build commercial, residential and retail space around the site (like the Braves). Oakland has stated if the A’s just wanted a stadium, shovels would already be in the ground. I still don’t get how all the sticking points in Oakland magically don’t matter in LV. Ultimately it comes down to cheap ownership. The Warriors, Rams and now clippers had no issues building new stadiums in California. I’m still holding out and hoping the LV deal falls through and the team is sold to Joe Lacob. I still think a team in LV would be great but rather an expansion team rather than rewarding a cheap owner that purposely drove a franchise into the ground.
The Braves done a incredible job with their new park . The battery is absolutely awesome. Smart move getting out of the downtown Atlanta area. Braves new stadium is in Cobb county much closer to Marietta. Best ballpark just overall experience I have ever had at any college or pro sporting event. If u get chance go to a Braves game at the battery you will not regret it . Hard to explain something u got c experience for yourself.
Nostalgic emotions are real, but Oakland got the A's bc at one time it was an attractive destination. Not anymore. Businesses don't want to jump through 1,000 hoops in order to do business. The "downtown" model is dead when your city does not control crime & actually appeases the criminals. LV will control crime near the strip because they know people need to feel safe.
it will be 3 stadiums within walking distance.. in Vegas. That will give vegas 4 pro teams and 2 minors plus a free tram from downtown to the strip to all stadiums.
@@4theloveoflife you mention minors…. Chances are the LV minor league team will be relocating… MLB doesnt like having ML and AAA right next to each other…. AA maybe
Well you can just change the definition of crime and it goes away. Oakland decriminalization drugs, Nevada decriminalization prostitution. No sanctioned drug trucks cruising the Oakland downtown streets though, unlike the Strip's trucks for the girls.
I had season tickets for the raiders man that stadium was old but man it had that old school style that no one has anymore!!! Going to miss the stadium when the lights go out 😢
As a former season ticket holder for the Niners, I feel your pain. Candlestick was an old and outdated stadium, but it had character, something that Levi's Stadium lacks. While it is a nice stadium, the design of Levi's is just too sterile for my taste. I surely do miss all of the little quirks of The Stick.
Oakland once had these major league teams-the A's,Raiders,the Golden State Warriors and the California Golden Seals. With the Warriors returning back to San Francisco, the Raiders in Las Vegas and the A's likely joining them, Oakland could become the first city in California to have all its team relocated. (P.S. In 1967, when the NHL came to the Bay Area, there was a team called the Oakland Seals. In 1970, A's owner Charlie Finley bought the Seals and renamed them the California Golden Seals. He unsuccessfully wanted the players to wear white skates. The Seals suffered in the box office in the Oakland Coliseum and on the ice. After eight unsuccessful seasons, the Seals moved to Cleveland and were rebranded as the Barons. The franchise died in 1977.)
No, there was a Pacific Hockey League team called the San Francisco Seals, who played at the Cow Palace, in the late 1950s to late 60s that, when invited to the NHL, moved to Oakalnd. Even the Raiders played their first two seasons in San Francisco, at Kezar Stadium and Candlestick Park well before it was expanded. And the Warriors played in San Francisco from the time it left Philadelphia in 1962 until 1971, when ownership, who had for five seasons played in both towns, decided just to play in Oakland.
As a San Diego fan and native, I feel your pain Oakland. No fan deserves to lose their team. Chargers/Raiders rivalry will also never be the same. ❤😢😞🙏
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536I agree the Clippers should have moved to San Diego and the Chargers should have stayed in San Diego. L.A really has a appetite for just Lakers, Dodgers and Rams...maybe Angels at times
I’m a giants fan, sf born and raised. But I want to go to one last A’s game before they leave. The bay bridge series is a staple of our teams, and it won’t feel right without our neighbors across the bat
I’m doing a job in Stockton in 2023 and have been going to A’s game once a week tickets are usually 10-15$ I ride the Bart in from Dublin. Bart ticket and food cost more than ticket. But the enjoyment of a baseball game even if the team sucks is worth it
It's weird how professional sports teams in the US just up and move cities. That sort of thing is unheard of in other countries where teams are closely associated with towns and cities. Manchester United, for example, would never, ever, move to London or Liverpool. It would be the end of the franchise.
I was in Oakland in 1988 to watch my Blue Jays play the A's, it was a great walk from the Holiday Inn on Hegenberger to the Stadium this was before the Seat expansion, and yes it was a beautiful view from inside and out, and Attendance for all 4 games we saw was over 30,000 each game, had a great time, Thank you Oakland!
Once upon a time the sports fan was the cornerstone of the sports world. Now team owners and even players treat fans like something stuck on their shoe. I feel for A's fans. Only one of my teams ever moved(Arizona Cardinals) but I never lived in St. Louis so it made no never mind to me. But if the Phillies, Flyers, or Sixers ever moved I'd feel like Julius Caesar on the Ides of March. I'd probably give up on sports at that point.
Now we're a year later and that mentioned renewal at the coliseum never happened and instead the As are playing in a AAA park in Sacramento until their new Vegas home is done, this video deserves an update. There's also the allegations that the current owner did a Rachel Phelps (Major League) and made the team intentionally bad and the stadium experience also intentionally bad to drive away fans to justify the move, and how the owner become the most hated owner in MLB history (as far as I know as an outsider looking in on Oakland). All these things deserve some follow up on this sordid story.
A great venue for the thousands of homeless! California has got to smarten up. Since nobody wants to work and would perfer to live on the streets, why shouldn't the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum become THE PALACE OF HOMELESSNESS!! Might I add..... As a life long fan of the Oakland Raiders, THE CITY OF OAKLAND HAS GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!!!
i’m a marlins fan from oakland but have been going a’s games since i was a kid. when they move it will truly be a sad day. i’m sorry to the a’s fans, this shit sucks
Memories live on of my first visit to the Coliseum in 1974...I have been an A's fan since 1972, and the venue was so beautiful, before Mount Davis. After graduating from high school, I was determined to move to the valley in Lodi and get season tickets to the A's...but thanks to the building of Mount Davis, my plans quickly changed. THANK YOU AL DAVIS, YOU SCREWED THE A'S OVER!! Now the A's are moving to Las Vegas...let's see what happens now.
Man I grew up in San Jose and always thought of Oakland as trash. That city has way bigger problems than sports teams. As far as the A's are concerned. The Giants are to blame. F the Giants. If the Giants didn't cry territorial rights, then the A's would already be playing in Downtown San Jose.
Going to the coliseum was WILd! Fights everywhere, parked cars being broke into. But man, was that place rocking for playoff baseball with the redsoxs, ohh the memories
I'm surprised he didn't mentioned anything about the seals moving to cleveland, then merged with minnesota. The usfl or xfl can expand to oakland and play there for awhile.
@@billyrichards8834 I know. He was mentioning about the raiders moving to las vegas, and the warriors to sf. so, he was talking about their future, or just leaving the seals out?
@@jwbogacki The Golden Seals are long gone from the NHL. They began life as the Oakland Seals in 1967. However, in 1970, when A's owner Charlie Finley bought the team and renamed them the California Golden Seals. They almost resembled the Los Angeles Kings sweaters, but they had not a jeweled crown, but the with the word "Seals" and were gold. The Seals suffered big time on the ice and at the box office. After eight unsuccessful seasons (1967-75), the Seals became the Cleveland Barons. In 1977, the franchise did not technically disband, but the then-Minnesota North Stars absorbed the defunct Seals-Barons franchise and its players.
Lifelong A's fan. My mom was pregnant with me when she and my Dad went to the 1972 World Series. So I've literally been going to A's games my entire life. This whole roller coaster is wearing me out as a fan. I wish all the owners would get to get together friggin' Fisher to sell the team. No matter what I'll always be ride or die with my A's.
There are somethings that were missed (of course it’s a short video on TH-cam ) but Howard Terminal was rejected by Lew Wolf & MLB for years and considered impossible by Wolf and was more focused on SJ. Jerry Brown & Jean Quan tried for years for them to build a stadium in Brooklyn Basin (which was close to the Laney site). And Mark Davis said Fisher was the reason why he couldn’t do anything at the Coliseum because he didn’t want to chip in with a few different developers who wanted to redo the area for three teams
5:08 "You can't say the A's haven't made an effort to stay in Oakland". Yeah, I can. They only did this after snubbing fans in Oakland by attempting to move to San Jose. Then buying land in Fremont, and trying to move the team out of Oakland then (sound familiar, Vegas?) and then, and only then did they attempt to "stay" in Oakland, which was likely merely a bargaining tactic to leverage a better deal elsewhere. Even the original plan to build a stadium on the Laney college land was shut down before it began because the A's announced it and didn't even get approval from the land owners (Peralta colleges). John Fisher has always want to move, to get a new stadium elsewhere and then likely sell the team when it's at maximum perceived value, Oakland fans be dammed. He's scum.
BS. The City has made zero real attempt to improve the venues and assist pro teams in stadium deals. Good/. F em. This is what they get. Every team is gone now
@@tonyc8752 You sound like someone rooting for the owner in the movie Major League. You couldn't be more wrong. City gave them Howard Terminal site, and the A's backed out of negotiations when it was getting close to fruition. Look it up.
I think Jerry Reinsdorf is secretly plotting to move the White Sox out of Chicago to Nashville or Charlotte. His and his front office team have been feeding the fans more and more BS over the past few seasons, the fans have called it out, and I don’t think they care. If MLB is satisfied with having only one team in the Bay Area, that throws the door wide open for his plan. Other than the condition of the venue (Guaranteed Rate is a bland but otherwise decent ballpark), there are a lot of similarities between Oakland and the South Side of Chicago. Sox fans would like nothing better than to have Jerry sell the team. But I don’t see that happening and he probably sees the value of his franchise being much greater outside of Chicago.
The A's seem to be struggling to get approval for anything in Vegas now too. Nevada doesn't want to provide funding at all, but the city itself might, or maybe if they can find a casino partner. This team just needs a new home somewhere. It's a shame they can't just build a new baseball specific stadium with a theme based on the old version of this staidum in the same lot. Bring back those iconic views, but I know the team views that lot as non-viable for the future.
Part of me wonders if they should look at a move to Sacramento? It's actually a pretty good sized television market, and they'd still be in Cali. The California Athletics has a nice ring to it!
Hope so... Although I still prefer them to move though, but to Sac, SLC, or Austin/SA instead... In fact, I don't even see Vegas ready for an MLB team, not even the expansion... If not for MLB is salivating their sports gambling money, none of the Big 4 (or 5) would make a team there... 🤔🤔🤔
@@chriseasterly5142 yet baseball wants the rays in Tampa? They make less the A's do hell Pittsburgh Cleveland Kansas and ciniy all make way less then Oakland has ever made why dose baseball keep them there?
@@dantehaskell5688 the Marlins are under contract until 2047 so they can’t relocate. If they could they probably would move cause that market sucks. The other teams actually have fans show up to games and they have baseball only parks and not the football/baseball combo that was built in the 60’s.
The city of Oakland is a absolute joke. How many tourist come to Oakland every year? The middle of a donut. 0. All three teams have left , they know better.
@@armorybrunotjr.3204 I could see Philly supporting a second MLB team! The logistics of it all would be tough though and the A's would definitely need their own stadium somewhere away from the Phillies.
Hope Nevada says no so Fisher doesn't have anywhere else to go but to sell... But in restrospect, Coliseum also not it either, from eveb the AASEG plan the new stadium gonna stay at the exactly same place but you can't build a new one before demolishing Coliseum, because that's totally need to be demolished, and we know pushing forward to Howard Terminal gonna be very expensive and time consuming too, so I don't think Oakland has it either... Vegas is totally not ready for an MLB team, there are no support from general public for the A's but there are no incentives for expansion group, their gambling too much for the A's are totally gonna be their downfall... My personal preference is totally between Sacramento or Austin/San Antonio, and probably Salt Lake City too aftwr seeing theur rendering... 🤔🤔🤔
"but you can't build a new one before demolishing Coliseum, " They could do what the Reds did-build GAP in one of the Riverfront parking lots, and play at Riverfront until the new stadium was done. Then move to the new stadium and tear the old one down.
I'm a Utahn, and we'd LOVE an MLB team. It'd probably be an expansion team though, with the former Jazz owners pursuing the team. Also, the current Jazz and RSL owner is trying to get an NHL expansion team or he might buy the Arizona Coyotes if they can't get a new arena in the Phoenix area.
Many people forget the A's tried to move to San Jose and wanted to move to Fremont. Howard terminal is a pipe dream. Baseball is a business, and the A's are better off in Las Vegas.
It's pretty much out of the question. Breakdown of the colosseum is as follows: 1: City didn't want to pay for a new stadium but wanted to retain half ownership 2: Fisher offered to buy their half stadium the city wasn't on board. 3: Fisher offered to buyout the stadium and pay of the city's debt for a previous renovation, the city was on board. 4: Fisher reneged on the offer to buyout the stadium. 5: Fisher asked for the city to approve upgrading the stadium, the city said yes. Fisher walked away. 6: The city sold their half the stadium to a corporation that only wants black owned sports teams operating there.
@@Captain_Solo correct the county sold their half to the A's, the city and the A's never reached a deal and the city now has an exclusive negotiating contact with a corporation for the cities half that will not allow white owned teams on site.
@@MarloSoBalJrthank you...but too many of the anti public funding crowd were the loudest. Should have been a vote. We all pay taxes I rather have my sports teams then some apartments and condos nobody in the community can afford
I still wonder why the ufl doesn't move one of their teams to oakland, ca 🤔🤔?!?! They could tear down & renovate or just build a smaller 38,000-55,000 seat stafium for the ufl team. I think that would work. And the ufl needs to get their teams located in nfl cities out of those cities!! Ufl teams will work better in big cities with no nfl teams, like birmingham, al & saint louis, mo.
When the Coliseum and arena was planned and built, it was cutting edge and Oakland seemed to have a bright future. It’s probably not a coincidence that that was also the last time Republicans were running the city and Alameda county. Since the early 70’s it’s been a slow decline, to what is now the worst run city in America. In addition to losing all their sports teams, Oakland probably also has the distinction of being the only place where an In & Out Burger has been forced to close.
Take down Mt. Davis at the Coliseum and you'll have what it looked like for 2 decades with them mountains in the background. Simple solution but no one thought of that.
@@osaji922 If Congress passes a law forbidding taxpayer funding for stadiums, teams would stay put. "He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want" (Proverbs 30:6, KJV).
A's ownership drove the team into the ground and took the fans, employees, the city, and the football team with him on that journey. Must be a real nut job.
When Space Force archaeoligists dig up ruins of the Oakland Coliseum in the year 20,024, they are going to be confused as to how the Romans were able to build the same exact stadium on two different Continents.
Joe Lacob stated he planned to move the team back to SF when he purchased them. Then he privately financed the project and had the stadium built. Amazing what happens when you have and owner that wants to get things done.
What they probably should do with that land where the Coliseum and Arena stands is give it to Disney so they can develop a Disneyland North, now that Disney is not too keen on development in Florida.
I know the arena's footprint isn't as big as the coliseum, but would razzing that and building a new stadium next door be an option? Certainly wouldn't be the first time a team did that...
As a kid who grew up in Minnesota, The Coliseum holds a special place in my heart. Going to indoor baseball my early years, then having my dad take me to Oakland on a business trip and my first experience in an outdoor park was magical. I feel bad for Athletics fans.
Oajland ghetto don't miss it suckers
I think it is more on the owner than the city. The owner is a billionaire and won’t put up his own money to help build a new ballpark, but would buy land in Vegas to build a stadium there. I still don’t get why the owner of the A’s would not fund more of a new stadium in Oakland. They could be good in Vegas, but not sure if Vegas will be a MLB hotspot.
Keep posting regularly & this channel will sky rocket
Seriously, really awesome videos and very interesting. Keep it up and it will grow for sure
The irony is the fact that the Raiders moved to LV due to the A’s. The Raiders wanted to redevelop the Coliseum Site, but were basically blocked by the A’s when Oakland decided to extend their lease and make them the primary Tennant of the Coliseum under the agreement that the team would stay In Oakland. The A’s squatted on the lease which basically kept the Raiders from redeveloping the site ultimately frustrated with the situation the Raiders relocated to LV. Now the A’s when the City and county were ready to hash out the final details on the Howard Terminal site ( literally a week away from the negotiations summit) A’s ownership pulled out, blind siding the city and announced they are planning on moving to LV down the street from the Raiders. Now the city is not without fault the politics in California are lined with red tape, but every ask the A’s had the City met. The cost of the Howard Terminal deal kept rising because the A’s wanted to build commercial, residential and retail space around the site (like the Braves). Oakland has stated if the A’s just wanted a stadium, shovels would already be in the ground. I still don’t get how all the sticking points in Oakland magically don’t matter in LV. Ultimately it comes down to cheap ownership. The Warriors, Rams and now clippers had no issues building new stadiums in California. I’m still holding out and hoping the LV deal falls through and the team is sold to Joe Lacob. I still think a team in LV would be great but rather an expansion team rather than rewarding a cheap owner that purposely drove a franchise into the ground.
The Braves done a incredible job with their new park . The battery is absolutely awesome. Smart move getting out of the downtown Atlanta area. Braves new stadium is in Cobb county much closer to Marietta. Best ballpark just overall experience I have ever had at any college or pro sporting event. If u get chance go to a Braves game at the battery you will not regret it . Hard to explain something u got c experience for yourself.
Nostalgic emotions are real, but Oakland got the A's bc at one time it was an attractive destination. Not anymore. Businesses don't want to jump through 1,000 hoops in order to do business. The "downtown" model is dead when your city does not control crime & actually appeases the criminals. LV will control crime near the strip because they know people need to feel safe.
it will be 3 stadiums within walking distance.. in Vegas. That will give vegas 4 pro teams and 2 minors plus a free tram from downtown to the strip to all stadiums.
@@4theloveoflife you mention minors…. Chances are the LV minor league team will be relocating… MLB doesnt like having ML and AAA right next to each other…. AA maybe
Vegas also has the casinos. Oakland is not a bad city I would say, just not as wealthy as other CA cities.
Well you can just change the definition of crime and it goes away. Oakland decriminalization drugs, Nevada decriminalization prostitution. No sanctioned drug trucks cruising the Oakland downtown streets though, unlike the Strip's trucks for the girls.
You got human trafficking of women in Vegas
I had season tickets for the raiders man that stadium was old but man it had that old school style that no one has anymore!!! Going to miss the stadium when the lights go out 😢
As a former season ticket holder for the Niners, I feel your pain. Candlestick was an old and outdated stadium, but it had character, something that Levi's Stadium lacks. While it is a nice stadium, the design of Levi's is just too sterile for my taste. I surely do miss all of the little quirks of The Stick.
All I will know in my life is the Bart connection. Damn, all the memories others have had on that train ride.
As a Texan, Oakland was a great trip.
Oakland once had these major league teams-the A's,Raiders,the Golden State Warriors and the California Golden Seals. With the Warriors returning
back to San Francisco, the Raiders in Las Vegas and the A's likely joining
them, Oakland could become the first city in California to have all its team
relocated. (P.S. In 1967, when the NHL came to the Bay Area, there was a
team called the Oakland Seals. In 1970, A's owner Charlie Finley bought
the Seals and renamed them the California Golden Seals. He unsuccessfully wanted the players to wear white skates. The Seals suffered in the box office in the Oakland Coliseum and on the ice.
After eight unsuccessful seasons, the Seals moved to Cleveland
and were rebranded as the Barons. The franchise died in 1977.)
No, there was a Pacific Hockey League team called the San Francisco Seals, who played at the Cow Palace, in the late 1950s to late 60s that, when invited to the NHL, moved to Oakalnd. Even the Raiders played their first two seasons in San Francisco, at Kezar Stadium and Candlestick Park well before it was expanded. And the Warriors played in San Francisco from the time it left Philadelphia in 1962 until 1971, when ownership, who had for five seasons played in both towns, decided just to play in Oakland.
I’m a giants fan, but baseball just isn’t baseball without Oakland.
What? 😂😂
As an Oaklander, thank u for this comment. We are heartbroken
Dodgers fan here, everything will be fine. We will get through this.
As a San Diego fan and native, I feel your pain Oakland. No fan deserves to lose their team. Chargers/Raiders rivalry will also never be the same. ❤😢😞🙏
I like how us San Diegans probably have the most sympathy for Oakland because we know what can happen if we lose our team
I still don't understand why the Chargers and Clippers want to share stadiums in LA vs have their own region in San Diego.
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 money and probably a bigger metro area I’d assume
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536LA will always provide more potential revenue than San Diego will, unfortunately
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536I agree the Clippers should have moved to San Diego and the Chargers should have stayed in San Diego. L.A really has a appetite for just Lakers, Dodgers and Rams...maybe Angels at times
I’m a giants fan, sf born and raised. But I want to go to one last A’s game before they leave. The bay bridge series is a staple of our teams, and it won’t feel right without our neighbors across the bat
Rivalries are what it's all about - hope you make it over for a game
Oakland doesn't even have In N Out anymore they chased them out too
the character of still being called the Coliseum is amazing and yes, that seating addition was NASTY
Wow! Just excellent content across the board and I admire your editing and storytelling skills. This is the start of a great channel, I can tell
Thank you ! 🙌
I’m doing a job in Stockton in 2023 and have been going to A’s game once a week tickets are usually 10-15$ I ride the Bart in from Dublin. Bart ticket and food cost more than ticket. But the enjoyment of a baseball game even if the team sucks is worth it
And Oakland is still paying off the bonds for Mt. Davis.
I grew up in Hayward in the late 60’ early 70’s and went to many A’s and Raiders games. I was a great time to be a fan.
It's weird how professional sports teams in the US just up and move cities. That sort of thing is unheard of in other countries where teams are closely associated with towns and cities. Manchester United, for example, would never, ever, move to London or Liverpool. It would be the end of the franchise.
I was in Oakland in 1988 to watch my Blue Jays play the A's, it was a great walk from the Holiday Inn on Hegenberger to the Stadium this was before the Seat expansion, and yes it was a beautiful view from inside and out, and Attendance for all 4 games we saw was over 30,000 each game, had a great time, Thank you Oakland!
Once upon a time the sports fan was the cornerstone of the sports world. Now team owners and even players treat fans like something stuck on their shoe. I feel for A's fans. Only one of my teams ever moved(Arizona Cardinals) but I never lived in St. Louis so it made no never mind to me. But if the Phillies, Flyers, or Sixers ever moved I'd feel like Julius Caesar on the Ides of March. I'd probably give up on sports at that point.
The Ark of The Lost Raiders.
I went to see Molly Hatchet, Cheap Trick, Black Sabbath, and Journey all together there.
Now we're a year later and that mentioned renewal at the coliseum never happened and instead the As are playing in a AAA park in Sacramento until their new Vegas home is done, this video deserves an update. There's also the allegations that the current owner did a Rachel Phelps (Major League) and made the team intentionally bad and the stadium experience also intentionally bad to drive away fans to justify the move, and how the owner become the most hated owner in MLB history (as far as I know as an outsider looking in on Oakland). All these things deserve some follow up on this sordid story.
K, it's your passion for game that hooked me. Show us all the rest!
Found you on tik tok, great informative content. Lived in the Bay Area my entire life and never knew any of this!!!
A great venue for the thousands of homeless! California has got to smarten up. Since nobody wants to work and would perfer to live on the streets, why shouldn't the Oakland Alameda County Coliseum become THE PALACE OF HOMELESSNESS!! Might I add..... As a life long fan of the Oakland Raiders, THE CITY OF OAKLAND HAS GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!!!
i’m a marlins fan from oakland but have been going a’s games since i was a kid. when they move it will truly be a sad day. i’m sorry to the a’s fans, this shit sucks
Memories live on of my first visit to the Coliseum in 1974...I have been an A's fan since 1972, and the venue was so beautiful, before Mount Davis. After graduating from high school, I was determined to move to the valley in Lodi and get season tickets to the A's...but thanks to the building of Mount Davis, my plans quickly changed. THANK YOU AL DAVIS, YOU SCREWED THE A'S OVER!! Now the A's are moving to Las Vegas...let's see what happens now.
I wanted the Raiders to stay in Oakland and hoped the city would work a deal to build the sporting complex for all three teams.
I was there in 1977 and thought it was beautiful then. Can't stand to look at it now.
@Karl with a K Sorry, the tickets were half price when I was there in 1977.
Man I grew up in San Jose and always thought of Oakland as trash. That city has way bigger problems than sports teams. As far as the A's are concerned. The Giants are to blame. F the Giants. If the Giants didn't cry territorial rights, then the A's would already be playing in Downtown San Jose.
You know how many epic concerts have been held at that stadium especially day on the green. Sad to see that state its in now.
one of the worst things they did was add seats in center field, it used to have a hill with great views of the oakland hills
Going to the coliseum was WILd! Fights everywhere, parked cars being broke into. But man, was that place rocking for playoff baseball with the redsoxs, ohh the memories
Libby shaft gave Oakland the shaft.
Well once the A’s move to Vegas, the Coliseum is likely to get demolished.
Mount Davis has to be the worst addition to a stadium, ever. Just horrible.
I'm surprised he didn't mentioned anything about the seals moving to cleveland, then merged with minnesota. The usfl or xfl can expand to oakland and play there for awhile.
I was thinking the same thing about both of the football leagues.
Because he's NOT talking about the future of the seals! He's talking about the A's.
@@billyrichards8834
I know. He was mentioning about the raiders moving to las vegas, and the warriors to sf. so, he was talking about their future, or just leaving the seals out?
@@jwbogacki The Golden Seals are long gone from the NHL. They began life as the Oakland Seals in 1967. However, in 1970, when A's owner Charlie Finley bought the team and renamed them the California Golden Seals.
They almost resembled the Los Angeles Kings sweaters, but they had
not a jeweled crown, but the with the word "Seals" and were gold.
The Seals suffered big time on the ice and at the box office. After eight unsuccessful seasons (1967-75), the Seals became the Cleveland Barons. In 1977, the franchise did not technically disband, but the then-Minnesota North Stars absorbed the defunct Seals-Barons franchise and its players.
Don’t build slimy team owners facilities …
The Oakland Coliseum wasn’t meant for MLB.
Affordable housing that isn't that affordable
Lifelong A's fan. My mom was pregnant with me when she and my Dad went to the 1972 World Series. So I've literally been going to A's games my entire life. This whole roller coaster is wearing me out as a fan. I wish all the owners would get to get together friggin' Fisher to sell the team. No matter what I'll always be ride or die with my A's.
🤪 L I T E R A L L Y 🤪
I am writing this on the day of The A's last game in Oakland. I have been a fan since 1986. My heart is broken.
I went to an As,Giants game a couple years ago and the colosseum is a horrible stadium I don’t say it to hate but the place is nearly falling apart
There are somethings that were missed (of course it’s a short video on TH-cam ) but Howard Terminal was rejected by Lew Wolf & MLB for years and considered impossible by Wolf and was more focused on SJ. Jerry Brown & Jean Quan tried for years for them to build a stadium in Brooklyn Basin (which was close to the Laney site). And Mark Davis said Fisher was the reason why he couldn’t do anything at the Coliseum because he didn’t want to chip in with a few different developers who wanted to redo the area for three teams
5:08 "You can't say the A's haven't made an effort to stay in Oakland". Yeah, I can. They only did this after snubbing fans in Oakland by attempting to move to San Jose. Then buying land in Fremont, and trying to move the team out of Oakland then (sound familiar, Vegas?) and then, and only then did they attempt to "stay" in Oakland, which was likely merely a bargaining tactic to leverage a better deal elsewhere. Even the original plan to build a stadium on the Laney college land was shut down before it began because the A's announced it and didn't even get approval from the land owners (Peralta colleges). John Fisher has always want to move, to get a new stadium elsewhere and then likely sell the team when it's at maximum perceived value, Oakland fans be dammed. He's scum.
BS. The City has made zero real attempt to improve the venues and assist pro teams in stadium deals. Good/. F em. This is what they get. Every team is gone now
@@tonyc8752 You sound like someone rooting for the owner in the movie Major League. You couldn't be more wrong. City gave them Howard Terminal site, and the A's backed out of negotiations when it was getting close to fruition. Look it up.
I think Jerry Reinsdorf is secretly plotting to move the White Sox out of Chicago to Nashville or Charlotte. His and his front office team have been feeding the fans more and more BS over the past few seasons, the fans have called it out, and I don’t think they care.
If MLB is satisfied with having only one team in the Bay Area, that throws the door wide open for his plan. Other than the condition of the venue (Guaranteed Rate is a bland but otherwise decent ballpark), there are a lot of similarities between Oakland and the South Side of Chicago.
Sox fans would like nothing better than to have Jerry sell the team. But I don’t see that happening and he probably sees the value of his franchise being much greater outside of Chicago.
@@inaka99 Except, Howard Terminal is NOT owned by the city. That's a maritime shipping port.
@@MarloSoBalJr Howard Terminal is owned by the Port of Oakland, which is overseen by the City of Oakland. Please look it up.
I dont like the idea of any pro sports teams in las vegas
Personally when the As are gone I’d tare out the older ring and build a second mount Davis for local college and soccer use
The Oakland Coliseum was much worse than the other multi sport stadiums build in the 1960’s.
The A's seem to be struggling to get approval for anything in Vegas now too. Nevada doesn't want to provide funding at all, but the city itself might, or maybe if they can find a casino partner. This team just needs a new home somewhere. It's a shame they can't just build a new baseball specific stadium with a theme based on the old version of this staidum in the same lot. Bring back those iconic views, but I know the team views that lot as non-viable for the future.
Part of me wonders if they should look at a move to Sacramento? It's actually a pretty good sized television market, and they'd still be in Cali. The California Athletics has a nice ring to it!
A team with no place to play
I really hope that the Vargas deal falls through just so that owner doesn’t get what he wants
I hear Vegas prefers an expansion team so fingers crossed
Hope so... Although I still prefer them to move though, but to Sac, SLC, or Austin/SA instead...
In fact, I don't even see Vegas ready for an MLB team, not even the expansion... If not for MLB is salivating their sports gambling money, none of the Big 4 (or 5) would make a team there...
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The league wants the A’s out of Oakland also. It’s a small market and can’t generate the tv revenue that a bigger market can.
@@chriseasterly5142 yet baseball wants the rays in Tampa? They make less the A's do hell Pittsburgh Cleveland Kansas and ciniy all make way less then Oakland has ever made why dose baseball keep them there?
@@dantehaskell5688 the Marlins are under contract until 2047 so they can’t relocate. If they could they probably would move cause that market sucks.
The other teams actually have fans show up to games and they have baseball only parks and not the football/baseball combo that was built in the 60’s.
The city and stadium both declined.I'm sure the stadium will be demolished eventually.
What happened to the Golden Seals?
This is sad, like Oakland just 4. Years ago had three major sports team and in two more years they will have none.
Great video, like the one on St Pete's Tropicana field
As I'm writing this the final game has already happened it's over
The best-looking playing field in all of MLB IMO.
The city of Oakland is a absolute joke. How many tourist come to Oakland every year? The middle of a donut. 0. All three teams have left , they know better.
Move them back to Philadelphia the Philadelphia A's that's the best place for them
They can share the stadium with the Phillies. Philadelphia can support 2 teams.
The A's originated in Philadelphia when the American League began in 1901. I doubt whether that would happen today.
@@armorybrunotjr.3204 I could see Philly supporting a second MLB team! The logistics of it all would be tough though and the A's would definitely need their own stadium somewhere away from the Phillies.
Hope Nevada says no so Fisher doesn't have anywhere else to go but to sell...
But in restrospect, Coliseum also not it either, from eveb the AASEG plan the new stadium gonna stay at the exactly same place but you can't build a new one before demolishing Coliseum, because that's totally need to be demolished, and we know pushing forward to Howard Terminal gonna be very expensive and time consuming too, so I don't think Oakland has it either...
Vegas is totally not ready for an MLB team, there are no support from general public for the A's but there are no incentives for expansion group, their gambling too much for the A's are totally gonna be their downfall...
My personal preference is totally between Sacramento or Austin/San Antonio, and probably Salt Lake City too aftwr seeing theur rendering...
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"but you can't build a new one before demolishing Coliseum, "
They could do what the Reds did-build GAP in one of the Riverfront parking lots, and play at Riverfront until the new stadium was done. Then move to the new stadium and tear the old one down.
I'm a Utahn, and we'd LOVE an MLB team. It'd probably be an expansion team though, with the former Jazz owners pursuing the team. Also, the current Jazz and RSL owner is trying to get an NHL expansion team or he might buy the Arizona Coyotes if they can't get a new arena in the Phoenix area.
"Affordable housing....venue for concerts"....nope
Many people forget the A's tried to move to San Jose and wanted to move to Fremont. Howard terminal is a pipe dream. Baseball is a business, and the A's are better off in Las Vegas.
Awesome Awesome video 👏🏾 very informative to say the least.
Oakland has way bigger concerns then a sports franchise. That place looks damn near post-apocalyptic
A's helped drive Raiders out. Eff 'em. (It's a dumb name anyway. "Athletics"? Go wither...)
Curt gowdy announcing a's of the 70s, Reggie and the boys, unbelievable 😢
I'm going there for a game in late September... it's gonna be great
Sad for the fans in O town
Lowkey not even that bad of a stadium just the stereotypes around the people that have been there 🙏
From icon to eyesore.
Is the location of the stadium an actual issue? As in, building a new stadium on the same grounds is or was out of the question.
It's pretty much out of the question.
Breakdown of the colosseum is as follows:
1: City didn't want to pay for a new stadium but wanted to retain half ownership
2: Fisher offered to buy their half stadium the city wasn't on board.
3: Fisher offered to buyout the stadium and pay of the city's debt for a previous renovation, the city was on board.
4: Fisher reneged on the offer to buyout the stadium.
5: Fisher asked for the city to approve upgrading the stadium, the city said yes. Fisher walked away.
6: The city sold their half the stadium to a corporation that only wants black owned sports teams operating there.
@@karlwithak. what?
@@louiscypher4186the was the county that sold their half to the A’s, not the city.
@@Captain_Solo correct the county sold their half to the A's, the city and the A's never reached a deal and the city now has an exclusive negotiating contact with a corporation for the cities half that will not allow white owned teams on site.
I appreciate your breakdown of this team. The old stadium 🏟 oakland is in trouble
You've definitely earned a sub, TH-cam algoritm... work your magic, more people need to see this!
Your content is superb. Editing on point.I have adhd and love staring at google maps too😅 Remember me when you get to mil subs.😂
City of Oakland should have subsidized the Raiders...nfl is king. Let the A's build on the Coliseum site or walk
Oakland a's are already moving to las vegas to join the raiders.
Tax payers should have to foot any part of the bill for a stadium and no subsidies that is just welfare for billionaires
@@rkupiecjr Then, I guess you don't want a team...
@@MarloSoBalJrthank you...but too many of the anti public funding crowd were the loudest. Should have been a vote. We all pay taxes I rather have my sports teams then some apartments and condos nobody in the community can afford
@@rkupiecjrwe all pay taxes. If the Raiders needed 400 mill. Give it to them. Its not 400 mill out your pocket. We all contribute
I still wonder why the ufl doesn't move one of their teams to oakland, ca 🤔🤔?!?! They could tear down & renovate or just build a smaller 38,000-55,000 seat stafium for the ufl team. I think that would work. And the ufl needs to get their teams located in nfl cities out of those cities!! Ufl teams will work better in big cities with no nfl teams, like birmingham, al & saint louis, mo.
Was curious about those grandstands and why they were only tarped.
great video
0:24 it’s a 56,000 seater. Not 46,000. Oakland coliseum has the largest capacity of any stadium
When the Coliseum and arena was planned and built, it was cutting edge and Oakland seemed to have a bright future. It’s probably not a coincidence that that was also the last time Republicans were running the city and Alameda county. Since the early 70’s it’s been a slow decline, to what is now the worst run city in America. In addition to losing all their sports teams, Oakland probably also has the distinction of being the only place where an In & Out Burger has been forced to close.
Their Vegas stadium is going to be ❤🔥. Cannot wait for them to be gone.
Sucks for the people of Oakland. The fans don’t deserve this at all.
Take down Mt. Davis at the Coliseum and you'll have what it looked like for 2 decades with them mountains in the background. Simple solution but no one thought of that.
Al Davis and the Raiders should of stayed in LA. Bottomline.
I think so too.
No, they never should have gone there.
@@davidlafleche1142 Yeah, but once they were there, they should have stayed. Going back to Oakland in 1995 was a mistake. Nothing good came from that.
@@osaji922 If Congress passes a law forbidding taxpayer funding for stadiums, teams would stay put. "He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want" (Proverbs 30:6, KJV).
@@davidlafleche1142 Well, Oakland should have passed that to keep the Raiders in LA.
A mega homeless camp.
That’s what it’s gonna become with “affordable housing”
Lord of The Flys
A's ownership drove the team into the ground and took the fans, employees, the city, and the football team with him on that journey. Must be a real nut job.
Putting up that shitty Mout Davis wall in Center Wall and not up grading it for years
When Space Force archaeoligists dig up ruins of the Oakland Coliseum in the year 20,024, they are going to be confused as to how the Romans were able to build the same exact stadium on two different Continents.
I am fairly certain the warriors left to SF before the raiders left to LV
Joe Lacob stated he planned to move the team back to SF when he purchased them. Then he privately financed the project and had the stadium built. Amazing what happens when you have and owner that wants to get things done.
“They” want the land & homes that those people own!
What they probably should do with that land where the Coliseum and Arena stands is give it to Disney so they can develop a Disneyland North, now that Disney is not too keen on development in Florida.
Disney is planning on adding another park in Anaheim.
I wish the A’s could move to San Jose
That place should have been demolished 5 or more years ago. Mount Davis is the worst stadium renovation ever 😅
The Raiders coming back.
Sad Sad Sad They should've not left Oakland
The demise of Oakland coliseum. The demise of Oaklamd. The demise of the Bay Area. The demise of California.
Oakland snubbed its fans. Sad
Personally. I think they spend one more year in the coliseum. I think they are gonna play in there Triple A minor league ballpark in 2025
This is disgusting
Fisher is to blame PERIOD
Welcome to the next tent city annex
Why can't they play somewhere else for 2 or 3 years and tear down the coliseum and rebuild
I know the arena's footprint isn't as big as the coliseum, but would razzing that and building a new stadium next door be an option? Certainly wouldn't be the first time a team did that...