Most people think I would say yes. BUT....
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- today I will explore reasons to both love and dislike day of dragons. since the number 1 question I get asked is whether or not day of dragons is worth it. and I guess you know the answer... maybe... but maybe you will be surprised.
My main issue with game is simple: I have nothing to do. I have enough of growing again, again and again, flying around and seeing always the same empty map, i can't collect skin because you can have only one per account (on single dragon). Most ppl who plays with me stopped and we just talking via discord because is no sense play game that we have to sit, go eat, sit and repeat. It's not like i hate this game or something but as long as it's in development we should have something more to do. I hope devs can get us content that will be absorbing or addictive
I agree 100% they need to add some content.
@@CallmePancakegaming Also I feel like they could do better with certain designs for certain dragons, like The SS is just a night furry, and some of the skins are just plain solid colours, like gold ; Plain Yellow body and eyes and the Crimson skin is just red and a bit of black and red eyes, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY SKINS NEED TO BE ADDED LOL
@@Tajraify I guess that's why pvp is as popular as it is.
@@Nacho23672 well they do plan on adding different designs and you will be able to customize colors
@@CallmePancakegaming ye, because there's nothing other than pvp. Im not pvp person so pvp isn't fun for me as should be. Mostly im waiting for boss fights that devs promised us
Yo pancake i got over 1000 hours in this game and i really think it will make the game so much better. On SS when you hit something or over all on any dragon you need a hit marker like in sea of thieves kind of thing search sea of thieves hit marker and you will see also a little pop sound i know there is a sound in the game but that's over all of you shooting and hitting stuff, we need separate one that only works on dragons some times its hard to know if you did any damage so that would help. Also some improvements in hatchlings having fun in some way even if you would add ground tunnels that only hatchlings can go in that be so sick.if we could get this in 1.0.1 that be so cool i hope you show this to super Rino
100% agree i think they should have that
XD that sound like a funny idea, running in tunnels with your friends they can balance it with lack of oxygen in there so nobody will camp grow there. Also, sometimes it's hard to know if you did damage or no bc of desync so hit marker would be nice, imagine tunnels under BR rocks THAT BE SOOOO cool
Lmao, I agree about the tunnels. I think that's the best way to not ruin the gameplay in any way and add fun elements to the game for hatchlings. Who wouldn't like tunnels? We need tunnels in places where hatchlings spawn, also it be nice if they would add sliding to Asds like the way you slide in rdr2 with the horse
So far i think tunnels are the best idea i would love to run under the ground like ants Lmao
Ahhh i agree they do need tunnels ,i am a part of a big clan and i did a vote and 40/40 said there should be tunnels in game for babys
Honestly, I don't even know where I'd be now if it weren't for day of dragons, I never would have met you i never would have met mimi, lechonk, bev, all some of the best friends I've ever had! some of the servers may be toxic, but the actual community itself is far from it, by far the best community I've ever been apart of!
Sad i missed this. but absolutely Love This game. love the fluidity of it all. the model creations for each individual dragon that comes to the game.
the games issue is that the dragons have all the work but everything else is underworked, map is empty with no ai besides a few rare patches of bugs, nothing is exiting like the only good thing people can say about the game is that it helps them make friends, litteraly not a thing about the game itself 😭... i want day of dragons to be great though, hopefully the issues that make it basically unplayable in my opinion are fixed
It seems that it all comes down to, the game looks cool but there is no substance. Which is why I can understand why people call DoD a scam.
Has no substance cause it’s practically just getting started
It does need more ai and things to do.. in pvp as an adult their is plenty to do.. if your into nesting for stats their is plenty to do... just needs more... which is coming.. its 1.0 but still very much still in early access.
@@CallmePancakegaming I just need AI to act out hunting with a dragon
@@DailyCommentorr then you made your decision. Why even watch my video?
@@CrabinATopHat seven years of needing the money to get it to where it is today, day of dragons didn’t start with a 2 billion budget like GTA6, it started with nothing, u act like a game is made in 3 months
My favorite part is just flying around, the flight physics just feel really good and and the animations are very fluid and feel realistic and weighty. I like working together with other players to help upstat the dragons. Im grateful to the game for being a place that i met new friends who ive now known for years.
It has come a long way from alpha, but it has been a long time waiting. Besides breeding, flying, and fighting, there isnt anything else to do in the game, making it feel empty. I dont think its worth getting into it at this time, but hopefully in the future it will be better, however long that will take.
DLC is not a problem, it’s only a problem when almost everything is a dlc or kickstarter exclusive. There are only 3 playable dragons flame stalker, shadow scale, and inferno ravager. The other 3 such as Blitz, Acid spitter, and bio are stuck behind a paywall. Yes, you can be hatched. But you can’t spawn in and experience it as a full. You die you die and have to wait to be nested again. Kinda frustrating. If there were less paywall things, it would be much more fair to the community who has supported them since the beginning.
They need money to pay their team. Their letting people go, like the map designer bc they can’t afford him. U can’t have everything free.
@@dannyphantom121 They have Patreon, Kickstarter, not only that, but the game is $20. They have made countless of promises and couldn't stick to them. There is a lot of problems with the way they handle people being rightfully upset and disappointed when they are being lied to by the dev team. What they do and still do is shut them down and hush them up. You cannot say they don't have money when they have made over millions from just selling the game and having a patreon and kickstarter.
I scarcely, if ever, comment on videos, especially about DoD recently as I just haven't been engaged with the open/public access as often due to recent irl situations, but I feel like the environment is appropriate for me to make a little ol' essay.
I love the dragons. the animations and model work is on point and very impressive, especially considering the niche existence of the game that does not leave much artistically for DoD to build a definitively appealing identity around. A lot of people give the designs flak for being basic or disproportionate, plastic or overly spikey, but one has to remember that there was no artistic game presence for dragons - only movie, and movie presence does not mesh well in games. From the lack of foundation, DoD has built something great.
Unfortunately, DoD also lacks critically in many areas that I feel contribute to it being niche even within the niche that is Creature Survival (DoDs player numbers currently speak volumes that there is issues here to be critical of, but NOT abusive with). I have been with this game since 2019, through every update and almost every test, so I feel I have credit to speak about what I've seen so far. *This is going to be a lot longer because I feel like I generally like analyzing areas of improvement/reasoning why a game turned out a particular way, and not because I hate the game. I just feel like I trend more critical when discussing a game.*
*Punishing:* By all accounts, The Isle is considered the most punishing Creature Survival game due to the growth times(10 hour growth times). However, if DoD sticks to the growth speeds that it has planned now, DoD will surpass the Isle in terms of inhospitality to ones time.
Not only will players have to contend with over 4 hour growth times for above average dragon sizes, they will also have to contend with the investment that is genetics, elder, and pearls. Losing a dragon will be devastating. It can take an entire afternoon to grow a dragon (most 9-5 individuals will only have a handful of hours before they need to sleep for work), and that is if and only if you do not get killed early in life, as current balancing enables a dragon that took several hours to grow, to be ambushed and killed in less than ten seconds (the record I have recorded was watching someone lose an entire subadult IR in 3 seconds, completely unable to react or feasibly see coming. Though this has a lot of complaints, so maybe SS will get a minor nerf, but due to its nature as a fast glass cannon, it won't be hard)
*Toxic:* I have asked around, on and off game, of PvP DOD and PvE DOD, and a vast majority agreement is that Day of dragons PvP is considered one of the most toxic environments out of all creature survival games.
I mostly believe this is due to the clan mechanics encouraging an "us vrs them" mentality, where clans will kill anyone that is not them because adults are a threat to their own adults. This ends up in excessive sport killing of hatchlings and suppressing smaller clans, leading to most if not all official and some community PvP servers to be labeled "megaclan servers," as they are home to unregulated, massive clan(s) that leave little to no room for smaller clans as wipes are common.
I feel like PvP balancing is a whole can of worms on its own, but I don't think adult-on-adult combat mechanics are directly related to the toxicity, and so I won't cover it here.
*Lack of Depth:* DoD has a LOT of mechanics planned, and they are fascinating, but I feel as if they have minimal mechanical depth. DoD focuses each update around a new dragon(s) and the mechanics to accent that particular dragon and does not feel like they have an intent to step back and make a core update around mechanical content. This makes the game feel like its content only goes as far as the dragons it holds, even with planned mechanics.
Pearls will (as known) only have cosmetic or minor stat boosts, stats are simply numerical that naturally increase with generations, and AI is planned to be relatively straightforward. Each dragon has different abilities and can do different things, but I feel like DoD is too focused on width and not depth. This is accented by the plan for dragons - we only get mechanics immediately as relevant to the dragon. We have not gotten depth in the form of quests, the world does not feel enriched - as someone in the video said, we have no incentive to explore. And it is important to note that incentive is very different from requirements. If I have to visit 20 different locations across the map(s) to become ancient, that is not what I would consider incentive, as you feel you *need* to explore, and not that you *want* to.
There is also the also-mentioned topic that babies have nothing to do. This is a compounding issue of players sport killing, an us-vrs-them clan mentality, and growth time causing players to feel a combination of "I can't explore because I'll probably die if I get seen moving around" and "I've been a baby for an hour and a half and I have seen everything there is to see for a baby." There is an endless amount of videos that analyze the isles "afk because adults are the only viable existence" habits and DoD shares much overlap with those issues.
Again, this is longer than a CVS receipt because I have been with this game through every peak and low since its early Kickstarter. You can agree with me or not, as at the end of the day, this is my analysis of DoDs current situation - and I apologize for making you read an essay, so if you got this far, here's an honorary star 🌟 - and focusing on things to work on rather than using the good to overlook the bad is something I feel more comfortable doing. I'll leave the highlights of good things the game has done to you guys.
Thanks for listening to me yap for however long it took you to read it.
I have a few issues with the game. Finding food, the clipping of the tail through the ground when you try to land, the clipping of the wings through tree branches and rocks, so the lack of realism with/for various things (such as the wings and tails clipping through solid surfaces like tree branches)
They are working on all of that... definately check out the videos and livestreams that came out this weekend of the test map where you can see a lot of those issues are taken care of. bth 1036 bug spawn locations now.
I can see where people are coming from by saying they love all the models/animations but honestly my biggest complaint is how so many of the creatures look like there from completely different universes. Idk if there's a lore reason for this but it's so off putting for me.
You beat me to it lol I was just about to say that
I was unable to add to the video but can say it here. I love the game and community, and am excited for what the future holds. I do think the addition of more flight acrobatics would be a great addition - barrel rolling, halting, hovering (on all dragons), a heavy flap for a speed burst etc.
Day of Dragons is the Game that Introduced Me to my First online Friends and made me be more outgoing online to the point that I Think this is the Game that Made me Finally start Streaming and made Even More Friends Its Even the First Game I Ever Streamed :)
Wings of fire mentioned! And also, i do hope they indeed add more bigger AI, it would be amazing to see herds of interesting herbivores of all sizes roaming around certain places like redwoods, small woods and plains, it would be amazing if like dragons could ambush the smaller ones by grabbing their neck or another limb in a quick time event and shove it onto the ground before leaving the final blow on the creature, It probably would take A LOT of time to do but its such a neat concept, maybe different dragons have different styles of hunting down prey! Its interesting but i'm pretty sure if that would be ever added, its gonna take the same amount of time as the biolum and IR, but its fair because rigging those animals and dragons would take awhile rightfully so, but we know that the lead dev doesnt always keep his promises unfortunately. That is just my thought of hunting above for AI because hunting larger prey could be a challenge but with a great reward for your hungry dragon. ^^
Best dragon game hands down? Well in my opinion it's the best one fully released right now but wings of dawn and draconia are big competition in my opinion
Dragonia has my attention... but Wings of Dawn... not so much
As someone who has played this game since the beginning - and I do mean that, I watched the release countdown and bought it right away - I've had a lot of time to see the good and the bad. So, here's my rant! Opinionated, up for debate, and open to commentary.
Since day one, I found a loving community within the servers. Complete strangers led me and others to portals, food, communities at the oasis, and annihilated anyone that tried to threaten the peace with needless attacking. But I watched people slowly leave as they realized things about the game's models, failed promises, etc. Even though I supported them with what money I had at such a young age, I received absolutely nothing in return. Not even a little cosmetic trinket, which is something I had hoped for dearly being such an avid dragon fan since childhood.
Today, I see a dev team that's struggling to find a balance of what people want, which seems to predominantly be new dragon species, and the actual playability of their game. Right now they seem to be dealing with it as if it's a cosmetic, roleplay-focused game, but having to eat nothing but the scarce bugs (seriously, a dragon game where the only food is bugs and baby dragons). The maps keep getting bigger and bigger, which would be fantastic if flight had more work, such as taking less stamina and being polished up a bit in it's movement, but this completely disregards how difficult it is to get around as a hatchling. Your best bet to grow up is to stay near a spawn, hide yourself as best as you can, and find something else to do while you wait. Either that, or have friends with the game, which is not something everyone has access to whenever they play.
It's still in early development, and there's nothing wrong with allowing the community to play around with what's there, but I feel as though they're starting to promote it as a game, which is expected to be playable and fun at the least, and it is not at that point yet. How could they improve this, in it's early state though? I'd say that having randomly spawning carcasses would do some good - better than insects - with enough food value to sustain a small group. Nobody wants to play a dragon game where your main objective isn't to die from starvation or boredom. As for the issue with the maps only being for older dragons, I'm hoping that the next map will solve this issue. A complicated landscape with places to hide and explore, full of interesting details that make for plenty of landmarks so that there isn't one hotspot (a common issue with survival games, just look at The Isle [south plains] and even Creatures of Sonaria [oasis]). Something as simple as a climbing mechanic exclusive to hatchlings, which has a short stamina bar for getting over ledges that cant be jumped, would prove both helpful and immersive.
Developing a game is not easy, by any means, and I think the thing the developers of Day of Dragons should work on is being honest with the community, even if it's something they don't want to admit to (later than ideal release dates, struggles with implementing certain things, etc.). If I had any way to get through to the devs and offer some of these bits of advice, I would, but I feel a little guilty at the same time. Criticism from hundreds of strangers is a lot of pressure, especially when you're working so hard already.
In the end, seems like you're right, Pancake! We're all kind of let down, but still hopeful, and we've got lots of dragon lovers around us to geek out while we wait.
I love this game but I wish there is more Ai of varying difficulty to hunt down instead of just eating bugs all the time I mean you’re a dragon but right now you have the same diet as a lizard… also I think adding more challenging pray would flesh out the world more and might help with bored players that have resorting to hatching-killing because of the lack of challenges on PvE servers for older dragons Also a little personal wish I’m a slow typer due to dyslexia,it would be nice to have a talk to text feature because sometimes I just don’t want to use voice chat due to wanting to stay completely anonymous online and not wanting to have people hearing my real voice. That might be a personal problem that no one else cares about but hay just voicing my opinion
You should do a video about The Hunted: Only The Strong Survive because they are deep in development and the game is coming extremely soon. If I were you I would make the video.
Are people that think you would say yes in the room with us?
BE WARNED: THE COMMNUNITY IS COMPARABLE TO A COD LOBBY
I'm some cases your right..
Are there humans in day of dragons?@@CallmePancakegaming
I regret owning the game tbh. There is so many toxic horrible people. I rarely find someone nice anymore. It’s all drama and hate for what???? A dumb dragon game? Even the isle community is nicer than DOD community!! I joined a clan server bc the owner of the one I was in was stopping the clan. The clan they directed me to was awful!! There was someone using the hard R word constantly in the general chat. Ppl kept pinging the OWNER of the clan and the discord. The man said it was HIS FRIEND!!!! the man saying all the racist and horrid words was HIS FRIEND!!! And he got mad at his whole community and cursing them out bc they kept pinging him about this friend that was being disrespectful and racist!! I left the server bc they were attack me for asking in my previous’ clans discord if the server was always toxic like that. And they threatened to ban me when I was talking in a different discord about them!!! I was curiously asking why our clan leader would recommend that clan to us and that clan stalked me in a different discord and called me out for what??? Asking a question in the previous clan they are not in!!!?? The owner of that server wanted ppl to call him master and king. He was cursing me out and calling me names when all I said in that server was to stop saying racist stuff to the guy!!! This was one terrible incident and there’s so many more I come across!! Finding good people is near impossible in this game it feels!!! I hate it now bc of the community and I will most likely never play it again until I see a change
Even people outside the game are being rude and toxic, had a guy jump at my throat for saying they’re making the dragons way to similar to httyd ones. Dude is a game, your life doesn’t depend on it calm down lol
@@meowsician LITERALLY!! I feel like it’s getting out of hand. I’m sorry that happened to you. All I wanted was a fun immersive dragon game and instead your faced with so much judgment and hate. It just all feels wrong. Rn I’ve been really into Century age of Ashes and that community is great! And it’s free!! If you haven’t heart of it and want to check it out
The game has a lot of potential, plus the developer did mention it in his devlog that he is looking to hire those that can be a role that fills a gap that the project needs. Of course, it's not easy to find someone who is committed to helping the game development. Which why, those that complain about the game being slow, should trying being in the game developer's shoes to see why it takes time to accomplish. I don't want to hear it until you make a fully working game yourself.
Flying and exploring is so worth it though. With time great things will come for sure
games great but i love how as an active player nobody talks about the CRAZY YEAR OR ALMOST A year of no content and delays the content is not coming out at all AT ALL but the game is good thats my only problem its been too long not just a little
I get it. It's definitely a waiting game.
There is a lot of good in the game. The models, the animations, the different types of dragons. But there is also a lot of bad. Being a baby dragon fresh spawn is not impossible to survive, but is still heavily geared toward being part of a Clan. So it's really hard to play 'solo'. Speaking of that, I think the worst part of the game is the breeding. If you play on a PvP server, unless you're part of a Clan that has had a chance to cement their position. Your stats are gonna be trash and while skill plays a very important part in combat, unfortunately, all it takes is just one lucky bite from a well bred dragon for it to all be over. So ultimately, I wish it was more of a survival game, not a breeding game.
I don't hate DoD. I see a lot of potential. But if someone were to ask me if it's worth it, I think they should just watch it. Not purchase it until the game is in full release. I mean full release. Not this breadcrumb stuff they have given us.
Honestly really fair, kinda voiced everyone’s complaints.
nice video! Also Hoping for the New AI to come soon. Love the game though,
Some of it should come in the next update... Just gotta wait for it....
Currently, even though I enjoy playing it a bit after updates and to test new features on the test server (looking at you, blitz & lightning storms
Used to be my favorite game but with the update 1.0 the delays its now almost august stuff we were promised in feb still hasnt come yet, its very disappointing. alot of stuff is pay walled, emotions for legacy dragons are a dlc when they should ne free. Making Merch when the game they promised us forever ago is in bare bones isnt good business plus, them getting salty when complaints are valid. Would have to say until we get the stuff that was promised no.
The game isn’t finished so people can’t make a fair judgement of it.
My only negative is exclusives aka the bio dragon, I had no chance at getting and many others also had no chance at getting it without nesting
So true!!!
It’s kind of pathetic this game has been out for about what 4?years now n they still haven’t finished wowsers they don’t really put all effort into it😂
I bought the game a few years ago.. haven't really played it.. I remember thinking it felt like The Isle Legacy but with less food and uglier :P always trying to keep an eye out for the day DoD is worth playing as someone who would have to start out by themselves. So far the map looks waaaaay prettier than when I played and it looks like more dragons were added (this game really fell off my radar for a bit tbh), once they add more ai and maybe even something to do while growing I'll be down to play again I think... maybe in a few more years
Yeah, the flight physics in the games feels soooo good and real. I've tried other dragon games and DoD has the best flight pysics by far.
The game is obviously in the early stages and the developpers are realising that there is alot of work to do, There is not much to do for now, especially in pvp
Hey pancake question do you have a server on day of dragons and if so what's it called I would love to play and join
I don't but I do use my friend Mimi's server quite a bit. Organised chaos
Slow and minimal content updates.
Acceptable models.
Half decent animations.
Empty map.
Used to play The Isle, but Evrima suffers the same as DoD. It's lackluster updates take forever to update anything.
Looking forward to the potential competitor games Wings of dawn and Draconia. I see more growth and development come out of these up and comers than anything put out from Day of Dragons to date.
I see more content fly into Path of Titans from their modding community, frequent updates, TLC passes of their dinosaurs, and new maps on a monthly basis than all the rest combined.
Play PoT, and join a fantasy server with all the dragons and fantasy creatures. Far better experience.
Until I see more dragons, more AI, and the map drastically overhauled, DoD is set firmly in the "Of little Interest" section of my library.
Wish I had more time to think on my answer, I had such a big brain fart when it came time for my response. I realise I forgot to say much about what I love about DOD, and trust me I could spend hours describing what I love about the game. But I also remembered something else I would like to be improved in PVP other than just adding a hitmarker or kill marker.
And that's more attacks, I know now the FS and ASD I believe are getting tail attacks but it would be such a nice change of pace if all the dragons had multiple attacks like claw attacks, grabbing, body slamming ECT. Just to change the ever slow pace of aerial circle fights to something a lot more realistic.
I would freakin love to be able to body slam a smaller dragon outta the air, or to slash at enemies, or for flightless dragons to be able to grab hold of a dragon even as it takes off, no more running away :)
Along with that, dodges and tricks would also be very nice paired with the multiple attack feature.
Favorite thing about the game is just the general feel of it. I don't think it has hit The Isle levels in that regard but it is there. You do feel immersed when you are doing things which is what a survival game needs.
Biggest detractor is probably the clan system. It keeps me away from PVP most of the time which isn't good. It's a cool idea in theory but there's no greater purpose to it yet that groups can't fill and the community has ruined by making discord mandatory 99% of the time. You can't just hop in and interact with it in game which for people like me who don't like that , we're going solo every time.
I think the main thing is that there is no way to broadcast rules to clan members in game. If they had an in-game bulletin with notifications for the clan members then that would probably fix this and give it more purpose.
Hey watch your video i do love game becuse love playing dragons but it does get boring her and there they need add contact or least somthing we do in game i do play it time time only im in mood to come and how game going
Pancake is the best
Is day of dragons coming to consoles in the future
For the time being, I'm afraid not-Jao has stated in the past that he wanted to keep it exclusively on PC for simplicity (there would be even more slowdown trying to develop the game for various platforms simultaneously). However, I'm aware there are semi-regular expressions of interest among players/fans for console ports, and Jao isn't dead set against consoles as much as he's just trying to keep the development pipeline as straight as possible, so I recommend following the game's development and trying to connect with others who'd also like console support; it might end up being _WAY_ down the road given the already glacial pace of development, but there's a chance it can happen.
pro: it's fun to fly around the dragons are great to play few fluid now i have the pc the game graphicly looks great Con: miss the verity of skins, you grow nest and thats it Biggest Con to me Personally : getting very very tired of people complaining that they feel 'scammed' cuz bios were exclusive gold was was exclusive that was blah exclusive rah rah rah I don't feel unique anymore. kind'a just want to like slap the person like you choose to drop 200-500$ into the game, the developer thanks you with a cosmetic but your helping build the game for everyone else as well. But I payed for Bio - and it allows everyone else to play it as well by choosing to nest people or don't. You Choose to do donate to the game, you choose to nest or not, you choose to wear the pearl or not.
very much agreed!
Was that the game where the creators are hella toxic and Complain and cry about everything like a toddler? Because I found an good alternative game it seems, kinda really similar to that one I even had to check if it weren't the same creators, also on steam
That's what some people have said. But the devs have been nothing but amazing to deal with. So don't believe the hate.
You mean Draconia? Yeah, the community especially is very nice and welcoming, I had two guys helping me grow when I first played
@@meowsician oh really? Wasn't sure just yet, just want to get more feedbacks xD
I can can't say anything about draconian. But from what I hear it has less complete than Dod
The animations, make path of titans look cheap
Its funny because people say the animations look bad and I am just like... whaaat in what way?
@@CallmePancakegaming I love the animations tho I do think they could be improved
What a nice video!! 🫶
I personally have the patience to wait for all the great stuff there is to come in this game, I really like it already ‘cause it kinda satisfies my dream of being/having a dragon😂
It’s great that I found it^^