Android 12 talk and the M1 iMac!

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  • In this week's episode of Waveform we dive deep into the announcements from Google I/O. After talking about some of the smaller announcements we're joined by David Imel who brings us an interview with Liam Spradlin, a designer with Google and someone who worked on Material You. After that we quickly go over the M1 Apple lineup and the new specs from the Ford F-150.
    00:00 Intro
    01:00 Google I/O recap begins
    05:12 Project LaMDA
    10:37 Google Wear updates
    19:12 Android 12 and Material You
    45:50 Wallpapers and backgrounds
    56:10 M1 iMac
    1:08:40 M1 iPad Pro
    1:12:06 F-150 Lightning talk
    Links:
    / wvfrm
    / mkbhd
    / andymanganelli
    / adamlukas17
    / durvidimel
    / wvfrmpodcast
    shop.mkbhd.com
    Music by KamrenB: spoti.fi/2WRJOFh
    Liam Spradlin: / liamspradlin
    Ford F-150: bit.ly/3bZfjET

ความคิดเห็น • 314

  • @the11thhour44
    @the11thhour44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    I love how they did a whole ass 10 minutes discussion on each other's wallpaper game, that's the nerdiest but most deeply relatable thing ever

    • @muhammadahsanbari6440
      @muhammadahsanbari6440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Julio this whole video is so wholesome

    • @swagatakumarmahapatra9476
      @swagatakumarmahapatra9476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Julio w.

    • @alextoma402
      @alextoma402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wallpaper customization is not nerdy. If you're spending hours customizing your wallpaper you're not a nerd. You're a super consumer.

    • @alextoma402
      @alextoma402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Julio yea lemme go debate my friends about who has the better wallpaper 😂

    • @alextoma402
      @alextoma402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Julio jk wallpapers are cool. You an iOS or Android user?

  • @pranam9195
    @pranam9195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    The editor is having real fun editing this video, love the opinions and writings added in the video, it was fun watching it!!

    • @yellowadil
      @yellowadil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He made me laugh 🤣

    • @eomoran
      @eomoran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially the desktop folder!

    • @bigpete990
      @bigpete990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3

  • @jua-nia
    @jua-nia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The editing in these podcast videos is just so perfect. There are some subtle touches in there that just make the experience of watching so much better.

  • @Spice_Monk
    @Spice_Monk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    It’s Friday evening, you had a heavy week. You’re tired. You come home, fix a drink and tune into an hour and a half of wholesomeness. That’s it

    • @noobmaster-dm7tu
      @noobmaster-dm7tu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No

    • @Spice_Monk
      @Spice_Monk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@noobmaster-dm7tu th-cam.com/video/D1_2k_sNrHI/w-d-xo.html&feature=share 😂😂

    • @alonsoavalos598
      @alonsoavalos598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      coudnt have said it better myself.

  • @amanfrmearth
    @amanfrmearth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really love Davids's addition to the podcast

  • @Ayush-ex9ir
    @Ayush-ex9ir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    40:15 "A bunch of rectangles with the exact same radius" - Marques

    • @arunthebuffoon4554
      @arunthebuffoon4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's talking about the radius of a squircle, i.e. the corner radius

  • @unkitjc
    @unkitjc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This podcast made use of the video format really well, very glad to have it

  • @kalpanaarora7214
    @kalpanaarora7214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    35:09
    David: Surprising people are okay with things feeling big
    Marquees: Yeah

  • @HoutarouOrekiOsu
    @HoutarouOrekiOsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm only 16 minutes in, I love all the little visual edits!
    Especially 15:35 made me laugh since I did not expect it

  • @bigphatbandlover
    @bigphatbandlover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the trio dynamic and the editor's vibe is great as well! Also, Andrew's eyes are beautiful 🤩

  • @orionx4729
    @orionx4729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    8:18 NAILED IT Marques !!

  • @latenightmurmur
    @latenightmurmur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The editing is just so amazing that even if I heard some part of it on podcast already, I have to come back and look at it again just to see if there's any other visual additions and they are always so fun and worth it to pause and jump frames xD

    • @jeremyLynch0926..
      @jeremyLynch0926.. ปีที่แล้ว

      ⬆️⬆️⬆️👆 Thanks for watching🚀🚀 Contact me above You have won🎁💬........

  • @avinashlp713
    @avinashlp713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seeing first time the video version of this podcast, david is so good with the talk damn!!
    Hope he is in all the podcasts.

  • @larock0wns
    @larock0wns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the editing on these videos is great. The fact that you add examples to what they are talking about it, is great. It's the extra attention to the content, that always makes it stand out. Other podcast videos don't do this.

  • @calme2
    @calme2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how you guys edit in footage about things you guys are talking about separate of the podcast 👌

  • @shanemooon
    @shanemooon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I don’t think it has anything to do with the thickness, they’ve shown that they’re okay with adding thickness to products if necessary. If they thought that they should get rid of the chin for design purposes, they would have. I’m sure they have mock-ups with 50 different design variations. Chin, no chin, small chin, big chin, etc.
    Other than tech reviewers, I have not seen a single bad thought about the iMac chin. I have no problem with it...I am a very technical person but I also have an extensive design background. It adds a level of design and aesthetic over just a straight up display. Also....people that have iMacs, use that chin A TON. People put sticky notes there, stickers there, decoration there. All sorts of things.
    I think you guys might be plagued a bit with the “over minimalization” of design. There’s a fine line between minimalism that produces clean aesthetics and minimalism that is just weird and can feel cold/industrial.

    • @Mb0ts
      @Mb0ts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally I hear someone say this. I also like the look of the chin

    • @paulredmond6407
      @paulredmond6407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My only gripe about the chin is since its already there, why didn't they go with front firing speakers?

    • @Mb0ts
      @Mb0ts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kiel Enrique yeah. I've also seen Dave's video and he seems like one of the few who like it. I wish i had reason to buy the new iMac. I hope they'll make just a monitor in this form factor

    • @okachobired5856
      @okachobired5856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i owned an iMac for plenty of years. I was looking forward to no chin. My large tv/monitor doesn't have a chin. Nothing wrong with a clean no chin design. This design is going backwards. Our phones don't have chin, monitors don't have a chin, tablets don't have a chin and yet Apple in their wisdom keeps their chin. Three steps forward and two steps back.

  • @Shreyaantech
    @Shreyaantech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the little comments throughout the whole video podcast 😂 Keep up the good work guys!

  • @shanemooon
    @shanemooon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used the same wallpaper for 8 years on all my iPhones. With my new 12 Pro, I finally switched. Both were color gradients. Previously it was a deeply saturated gradient, I have now moved to something less saturated and more pastel. (to align with design language of current times....haha. everyone is doing pastels these days)
    My MacBook wallpaper is always just the default for the OS.

    • @JamesRitala
      @JamesRitala 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you kindly share your wallpaper, the pastel one?

    • @Plantdude44
      @Plantdude44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JamesRitala Try the free app "Stokie", you can get all stock wallpapers of different brands, try checking out 'oppo' (... findx3), they have a lot of gradients.

  • @gigadze
    @gigadze 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    David and that man from, like, Google said "like" like million times. Me no like it!

  • @EclipseDaBossHooplah
    @EclipseDaBossHooplah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    51:50 I actually do this with my home screen as well. It makes the apps look cleaner and it's better for night-time use.

  • @thaher3945
    @thaher3945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    33:26 did not go unnoticed. lmao the creativity is insane!

  • @kalpanaarora7214
    @kalpanaarora7214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the appreciation comment for this channels Video Editor. Good job mate

  • @dylancrossfinance
    @dylancrossfinance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    33:17 - I thought it was just me that did that 😂😂

  • @bumblejeep123
    @bumblejeep123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is not just a video log of the waveform podcast. This is the waveform podcast on steroids. Love the visual presentation like this is a whole new video!

  • @ConLLee
    @ConLLee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lmao it was like hearing myself talk when Marques talked about his “rules” with wallpapers

  • @Justvinayk
    @Justvinayk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came here Just for DAVID, even though I have already heard the podcast on apple :D. Cheers David

  • @dastaniam
    @dastaniam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excited for Android 12

  • @mahinfayaz
    @mahinfayaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Display and font size on small looks perfect!

  • @BriNathanCollins
    @BriNathanCollins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Ford video was awesome!

  • @itquankazi
    @itquankazi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the podcast Marques!

  • @shubhmerja9347
    @shubhmerja9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you always blow me with the quality of production

  • @MaxxDista
    @MaxxDista 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks team MKBHD for bringing us podcast possible for us.

  • @simonvutov7575
    @simonvutov7575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone else think this podcast is underrated?

  • @thomvantilburg7599
    @thomvantilburg7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to only use movie posters as my wallpaper but started making my own this year to practice my design skills!

  • @JamilBryant
    @JamilBryant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that bracket feature on search results.

  • @ilpoheikkila4773
    @ilpoheikkila4773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! You are now here in TH-cam too! Subscribed!

  • @h8.2Luv
    @h8.2Luv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    watching in 2024 is wild... so much has changed in the 2 years since this has come out

  • @MJ.unplugged
    @MJ.unplugged 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although there was lot covered in this epicsode 😛, I think the key takeaway for me is that the more I hear from David, the more I like him. " I hate iOS so much" , "the moon is very important in the wallpaper"

  • @jpisaac85
    @jpisaac85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Would love to see a full episode dedicated to Sony and their wide range of products. Especially their questionable mobile strategy.

  • @kushal809
    @kushal809 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing podcast 🔥🔥

  • @sazrulsazli
    @sazrulsazli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David’s the man… 🤘

  • @levifig
    @levifig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This edit! 👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Daiooo9899
    @Daiooo9899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First of all im a "season vibe" for wallpaper, i change my wallpaper to match the current season (currently fall). Then for the apple stuff you talk should be something to expect to change, because if they put an M1 chip expect some changes in the near future.

  • @gnoboca
    @gnoboca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best episode Guys!

  • @MrLeo625
    @MrLeo625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan of both podcast and TH-cam channel, now I can put a face with the voice 👍👍

  • @The_Tauri
    @The_Tauri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    33:03 Not you're _definitely_ not the only one - I have many, *many* New New Desktop folders too haha lol.

  • @Junior-iz3fl
    @Junior-iz3fl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid!

  • @ajmarecki
    @ajmarecki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a lot of tech reviewers are missing one of the main advantages of the external power/ethernet adapter. There are many global safety/EMC compliance standards (UL, CE, FCC etc.) when dealing with mains voltage/ethernet and it can be difficult to combine with modern small electronics. If they tried to put the power supply and ethernet circuitry inside the iMac it would have required to be on a separate PCB and possibly insulating materials to prevent shorts to the aluminum case. It is much easier to design one external power adapter and avoid having high voltage on the computer itself. Apple oversized this power supply (143W) for the M1 24" iMac and they will likely use it on future iMacs and Mac Mini/Pro. It's a really smart solution and will reduce cost.

  • @FEWEDZI
    @FEWEDZI 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this

  • @REVIEWSONTHERUN
    @REVIEWSONTHERUN 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool! Nice podcast. ✌️

  • @Xsparger
    @Xsparger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    iPad Pro wallpaper is none other than then MKBHD black Icons. Looks soooo good.
    My Pixel 5 is a map of Middle Earth

  • @silentriker
    @silentriker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The editor notes throughout the video are jokes, keep up the good work

  • @bryan.w.t
    @bryan.w.t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro never disappoints

  • @svibhavm
    @svibhavm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruh editor has good humor😂😂😂

  • @rishi_sk
    @rishi_sk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can relate to Andrew regarding the files on desktop so much😂😂😂

  • @kishoreg6078
    @kishoreg6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For the first time in a long time, the android UI is interesting... Marques is being one note but then again, expected from the "Matte Black Everything" guy

    • @the11thhour44
      @the11thhour44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Android hasn't been this interesting since the Android L days, I love it

  • @tvst7856
    @tvst7856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how it looks flatter if that makes sense.

  • @puig031
    @puig031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd hope they make the eco route the default route so that a lot of people don't even notice they are doing it.

  • @TemjinZero
    @TemjinZero 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came from the audio only podcast. Felt like i really needed the visual aid to follow along.

    • @jeremyLynch0926..
      @jeremyLynch0926.. ปีที่แล้ว

      ⬆️⬆️⬆️👆 Thanks for watching🚀🚀 Contact me above You have won🎁💬.......

  • @nigilvalikodath
    @nigilvalikodath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hot take: The iMac chin is for the silhouette for people to recognize the product.

    • @julianc528
      @julianc528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This only works for the iMac and the iPhone. What about the iPad? It's silhouette is just rounded rectangle. No notch. No chin. Same goes for the Apple Watch. Just pointing out that I don't think it's ONLY for recognizability. If it were then all their products would have something like that.

    • @donuts_are_good
      @donuts_are_good 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s 100% why. They absolutely could fit the PCB(s) behind the monitor. The iPad Pro has an M1 AND a battery. The def could’ve pulled it off.

  • @Houserino
    @Houserino 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that exact firewatch/colorful forest background on my PC.

  • @jyothiss3728
    @jyothiss3728 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious to know how the quick action menu is gonna look landscape mode.. do they go to the icons like they have right now or .. what and how else?

  • @debattamdas662
    @debattamdas662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is this podcast so educational?

  • @pvtghost24
    @pvtghost24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When MKBHD said, "Hi, my name is..." 8:19
    - immediate thought was, Slimy Shady

  • @oacoello
    @oacoello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me listening to the podcast in Spotify, notice this episode has like 1 minute Hahaha, but in TH-cam is ad free

  • @TheRgizMO
    @TheRgizMO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay. The video podcast is just much richer than the audio one. It's got b-roll!
    This is a bummer I can't listen to the podcast while doing dishes anymore :-D

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bring chapters to the audio-only podcast as well! 🙌🏼

  • @hamza-chaudhry
    @hamza-chaudhry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking about wallpapers, does anyone else have the issue where when you set a wallpaper on your Pixel 5, the resolution is much lower than the actual picture?

  • @captainpackage7
    @captainpackage7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a wallpaper app that changes my wallpaper at intervals. I have it set up so my lock screen and every screen I swipe to left and right has a different photo and sometimes a different photo source to pull from. I love it because I have a new background every time I open my phone. And for me it is a good way to reminisce on photos I have taken in the past and previous fun times I have had. Although now I question if I may be a psychopath after describing it haha

    • @SouISeek3r
      @SouISeek3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting what's the app called?

  • @urnamebe_cryptj_son6697
    @urnamebe_cryptj_son6697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope🔥🔥

  • @jaykparikh37
    @jaykparikh37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmfao the material design guy was sooooo much nerdier than i was expecting

  • @kylelavery88
    @kylelavery88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if the iPad Pro had a functionality like Samsung Dex. E.g. when you put it into a proprietary dock and attach a screen, you get a full desktop (macOS) experience? It has the specs to do this and do it well…

  • @brennenczechowski
    @brennenczechowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Google was to add a scenic option, which would take the driver through more uninhabited routes, shore lines, etc, that may be an option people would be happy. However, as eco sounds fascinating, people want to go from point a to point b asap, unless they want to experience the route (i.e. scenic)

  • @tanmayjaiswal5935
    @tanmayjaiswal5935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm with Marquez. Size and color is cool as long as the design is consistent. Don't mess with the shapes though. Keep those as simple as possible.

  • @deepaktripathy2653
    @deepaktripathy2653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can see asking google about mkbhd and LaMDA just poppin up in a matte black t shirt

  • @rickywinterborn
    @rickywinterborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thought i was ocd about my wallpaper and app placement, whew

  • @collinsmakamu4544
    @collinsmakamu4544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The f-150 segway 😂😂😂

  • @wilyamiyoo
    @wilyamiyoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    43:18 I remember Samsung also did an app called Theme Park last 2019 that almost does the same implementation of getting colors from your wallpaper to suit the whole UI.

  • @amirul_lisan
    @amirul_lisan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Episode 62: 48 Minutes
    Episode 63: 58 Minutes
    Episode 64: 59 Minutes
    Episode 65: almost 1:25 Hours! 😱😵

  • @akshat.jaiswal
    @akshat.jaiswal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    21:41 m1 iMacs: allow me to introduce ourselves

  • @HumansOfVR
    @HumansOfVR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    we need something new in the smartwatch field
    I feel like the functions are pretty much the same and stagnant

    • @absak
      @absak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think the whole smartwatch thing is cursed to fail, it will always feel like a james bond thing that is reserved for a nich. i use one, but not everyone will, idk.

    • @ru2225
      @ru2225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@absak they're selling 10s of millions of smart watches, I see 100s anytime I go out. Think you've got your forecast on the wrong side

  • @sellakkumaran01
    @sellakkumaran01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't waveform audio podcast have timestamps ?
    @AustinEvans The test drivers audio podcast have chapters / timestamps

  • @miheerporadiya
    @miheerporadiya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people might know this, lawnchair launcher can also do that, extract colours from wallpaper thing since like a year

  • @alexandercotman2553
    @alexandercotman2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not gonna lie - I'm in DEEP with the Apple ecosystem but after seeing the changes to Android, I'm excitedly looking forward to the Pixel 6 reveal

  • @stefchenko009
    @stefchenko009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its funny I've had a HTC phone for a while (the M7 to currently a U11+), and it does that thing where you can set a theme based on the detected colours in the background you choose

  • @DaringCreative
    @DaringCreative 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know which boom arms those are holding the mics?

  • @DevonMcFarlane
    @DevonMcFarlane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    M1 iMac: The chin is there for two reasons.
    1, To show off the colour
    2, which is the paramount reason... The chin makes the iMac silhouette instantly recognisable.
    Exactly like the iPhone notch, the home button replacement. Otherwise it's just a box/rectangle and Apple always aims for an instantly recognisable silhouette. Think of a single colour icon of this and how would you know it's a Apple product.

  • @reesericdotci
    @reesericdotci 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lesss gooo!

  • @sindhujabheesette5981
    @sindhujabheesette5981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, will you ever make a video about how smartphone companies make your older phone less desirable with every update. I feel like my perfectly functional phone gets less and less dimmer with every update! Thought you might talk about it sometimes! Thanks

  • @akash.s.manikandan9724
    @akash.s.manikandan9724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the chin for the i mac is simple - Apple wants to keep the innovation circle going so if they had made the chin go away and if it just had an edge to edge display then they will have to go for something really big for the next generation to make it stand out and to innovate ,so this year they planned to keep the chin intentionally and to give different colors and later down the road they will take away the chin and will have a new and clean make and they might call it innovation..!!

  • @UnpossiblePOG
    @UnpossiblePOG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Marques likes Rectangle Shapes with different colors, it means he really did like the look of Metro UI of Windows 8 when it first came out.

  • @tmn36
    @tmn36 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what camera are you guys using?

  • @JamesRitala
    @JamesRitala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if Samsung’s OneUI 4 will implement Material You design language or if it will take android 12 into it’s skin.

  • @parthsharma6269
    @parthsharma6269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be fun to see a LG signature display in the background instead of the waveform logo art that we see. It might serve its purpose as you might want to project something you're talking about on that display. And when you're not it can show the animating waveform logo of sorts.
    Just a suggestion

  • @_Griner
    @_Griner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @mkbhd and the rest of the @WVFRM team, love to hear your opinion on my wallpaper setup. My wallpaper hasn't changed for 3 years now and the lock screen wallpaper is different but compliments my home wallpaper. Pixel 2XL to Pixel 5, hasn't changed since. Would love to send screenshots 😅

  • @hamza-chaudhry
    @hamza-chaudhry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    45:29 Why was his mic cut out for a second there?
    49:19 "Got the red which matches the red"
    53:30 I think so too
    1:01:59 I think Andrew's right

  • @theharesbreath
    @theharesbreath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 17:11, what Andrew describes is already done by Google Photos, out of single shots (no bunch of very similar shots needed). What they introduced on stage was a little different (basically what Marques described).

  • @immortal.abhinav
    @immortal.abhinav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    34:10 (I know why he smiled) 😁

  • @swanbones
    @swanbones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a live wallpaper and I'm curious as to what Google will do to your phone if i used the feature. Anyone have an idea of what to expect?

  • @peacenzmiddleast
    @peacenzmiddleast 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just FYI those Psychos you’re talking about having the computer in the middle of the room are called retouchers. For minimum reflections gotta have the screen facing a close by wall not windows or doors.✌🏼