British Rail-Newcastle 1989
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Another BR vid, this time from the North East, Newcastle one Friday evening in summer 1989. Seen are HSTs in various liveries, Trans-Pennine class 47s hauled trains, a bit of freight, parcel trains, real DMUs & Pacers some in GWR chocolate & cream from their short lived time in the West Country, all in all a bit of variety. If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
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IC Executive the nicest livery ever adorned on an HST
It wasn't bad but i prefer the original blue & yellow 'Flying Banana' livery.....
I like the Executive style the most too.
Those screaming valentas ,a brown n cream skipper they didnt last long indevon and loco hauled trans pennine did you ever film gateshead.
The GNER blue livery is widely regarded as being the best post privatisation livery.
@@markcf83The Eurostars also looked amazing in GNER livery too.
Fantastic footage Soi, thank you :) What's interesting here is that Newcastle is a really lovely station today, but here it looks very bleak!
Those HST drivers were giving it a lot of welly from a standing start.
The joy of a Valenta on full bore-hellfire!!! I used to thrash 37s the same way, load regulator permitting!
Remember that they couldn't open the power fully until they'd got past Gateshead......
Neat consecutive pair of 37046 and 37048. The way you zoom in on the numbers as they pass is very useful, it's just like virtual trainspotting.
Nice to hear Pacers (did I say nice to hear Pacers?) with the orginal TL11 engines too.,
When i first started filming i didn't zoom in but then i wanted to underline those i videoed (yes, very 'trainspotting' i know! lol) so if i could read the number through the view finder i was happy and made notes when i got home (no waiting to develope the film like cine). I stll aim to get the numbers now or have a mate ready with pen & notebook, back to basics, can't go wrong with that!
Fantastic retro variety. Growling Syphons, screaming Valentas, 1st gen. DMUs and 47s on passenger & parcels.
Plenty of variety back then......
Its amazing how the HST has aged so well, the new headlights have obviously given them a fresh face but the overall design of the cabs by Kenneth Grange and the smooth lines of their mk3 coaches still looks modern today even when compared to newer trains.
Wow absolutely fantastic video it's really fascinating to see Newcastle central station before the east coast mainline was electrified and seeing Newcastle central as at it used to be
Thank you..... just a day of filming on my way home after a week's holiday filming trains.......
Same here pal. Vastly different today......
Love the two scruffy looking un refurbished class 37s passing through. Both probably long gone now.
43108 BBC Television Railwatch minus her nameplates at 7:02 I see. Absolutely cracking footage from Newcastle Station as I remember it when I was a kid
Thank you. I remember a week long BBC programe that foused on the East Coast route for a week, was that Railwatch?.....Could well have been.
Wow this documentary amazing and fascinating, flashed back my memory in the 1980s probably in the years 1980 - 1981 - 1982 - 1983 , thanks for the uploading.
Newcastle in 1989. Intercity trains in the black and white with red stripe livery. 47 class loco hauled Trans Pennine trains.
There was plenty of variety in those days....
look at that immaculate pway. Not a Buddleia bush in sight. I really miss those days the railway is an uncared for mess now.
Newcastle pre electrification. Stunning.
Any video starting with a HST is gotta be good.....
And still Valanta powered as well......
do you know of any videos of the four that had Mirrlees MB190 engines in them?
Fab capture.I really miss that gorgeous sound of the valenta-powered HSTs.
Yes, i thought they sounded really great with that Valanta scream!...Still, i have plenty more old school ones to upload.....
Lovely trains, character and style the HST
I've had a soft spot for them since seeing my first one in the summer of 1976 at Swindon. Even better was my first trip out on them Padd to Bristol & back when they entered squadron service later in the year!
Great Video...lots of variety of locos. Bring back memories of when I was growing up. Dave
I aim to please! There will be more to come.........
Valenta power. Gets me everytime. Great video!
Yeah, a Valenta on full bore-Hellfire!!! The HSTs thrashed so much better with original kit
The four that had Mirrlees MB190 engines had even more power.
Lovely selection of old school BR traction and stock, but.... arrrrgh Pacers! My local line became infested with them when I was about 7, even at that age I could tell they were a cheap knock-off (the fact that they shared so many parts- including the 142s original double folding doors seen here- with the then-ubiquitous Leyland National bus didn’t help). V nice vid all the same. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏻
Like them or loathe them they are part of railway history, and they helped keep lines open back in the 1980s. Don't forget the Serpell report, the DFT were still trying to do a Beeching and shut most of the network down in that decade. BR's prefered DMU replacement was the class 210 (some shots of which i do have on vid!) which was a diesel version of a 317 EMU (same bodyshell) but was too expesive for the money available to BR at the time, money wasn't so free & easy then so the Pacers were the answer at the time. BR of course managed to find some middle ground between them & the class 210 which was the Sprinter family, at least they had bogies! But i filmed just about everything that moved railway wise to some degree, locos were my main interest but i shot what was around where ever i was filming. It's all history now.....
Soi Buakhao Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you filmed what you did! And I understand Pacers had a place. I just wish that place was as far away from my house as possible!
lol! You'll notice some of the ones shown here were in GWR chocolate & cream. They were new to the West Country but had already been moved on due to excessive noise + wheel damage on the tight branch line curves! The Western Region obviously shared your view!!!
When the railways were still interesting. Loco hauled regional trains. Platforms with vans and full brake coaches at the, for the Newspaper, parcels or mail trains.
It seems each generation the railway "improve" things but actually life gets worse. New trains with hard seats, short trains some of which couple together but are still 2 trains that cannot be walked through, mail traffic on roads, more freight on roads, more contractors working for the railways telling you you "cannot do that" re photos, videoing or just hanging about looking at the trains. Life was better under BR but they were underfunded compared to today. Even then bits of BR made money-InterCity, Freight & parcels and even NSE in its last year as a complete entity! But such is the chaos of life............
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
And don't even consider taking luggage, a pushchair, or bicycle on a modern train. What little space is available will be gone very quickly.
Brilliant video.
Thank you....
railriders used to be 47 406 in 87 88,wonder why the change.
The early 47s were marked for early withdrawl to their their slightly different power equipment.
1989-1999, final year of INTERCITY trains/livery. Today the good old 43's live on as E.M.R intercity, cross country ETC
1:22 A pacer with a Leyland 680 engine instead of a Cummins L10
I seem to recall there was an engine change programme at some point in the past.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yes - the Leyland engines broke down too much - think they were also paired with multi gear gear boxes.
The Cummins kit was similar or the same to that fitted to early Sprinters
It was the gearbox that was the problem, the L10 is the same as used in Leyland Olympians. Plus BR were concerned that with Leyland ending bus production spares might become an issue, so they chose Cummins/Voith for commonality with Sprinters
HSTs and Pacers, could almost be 2019 lol
Yes, even the Pacers stood the test of time.....
The HST has hardly aged, they still look great today, its gonna be sad to see them go.
Thanks for uploading and bringing back the memories! Do you have good clips with the station announcements from 80/90s at Newcastle - looking for sound clips to play on a model of the station that we are building.
I may have, this is a section of my first video visit here. They were a few more during the 90s but how many captured the station announcements i'm not sure.....
Excellent video! Do you have any footage on the Leamside line? Cheers
I'm afraid not.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus such a shame I can’t find any footage but cheers
Interesting to note that the HST at 7:09 is missing a buffet coach
I never spotted that before. I can only assume the buffet coach had a defect and rather than fail the whole train it was knocked out of the set allowing it to run a full day's diagram and not have a whole load of train cancellations that day. Unlike these wonderfull IEPs that are entering service, each set cannot be split unless in works, so one dud coach = whole train out of service! Some progress!
I know. I was on a HST from KGX to Berwick-upon-Tweed a couple of years ago that had a coach missing (not the buffet coach fortunately), it was so late I got compensated for the whole journey.
Xc hsts don't have a buffet car
When did electrification reach newcastle?
Electric services north of York started in July 1991....
Proper traction
The roof looks a little tatty, love the valentas and swallow livery of the 125s though
12:56 Nice to see a mixed livery 125 with all BR MK3 coaches in their original BR Blue Grey livery amazing to think that in 1989 these carriages were untouched since these were originally built between 1975-1982. 1 power car in BR IC swallow livery. And the other in BR IC Executive livery 1989 (two years before I was born) a time when mixed livery trains were very common. Ah how did the comuters cope with no buffet car with no nasty British Rail coffee and over priced chocolate confectionary sweets crisps snacks and Pure Leith reinvented British Rail sarnies?
There was a buffet car, third from the end. The one with a red stripe above the windows marked 'Resturant-Buffet 125' ! The buffet food wasn't so bad on 125's, i remember going on an All Line Rover with my Dad in 1981 and travelled on HST's quite a bit and they had nice hot toasted sandwich's. I believe they were the first stock to have microwave ovens on board as well although as usual anything on the railway always cost's more, the claim-'that we need staff to sellit', as if shops & cafe's don't? !!!! Never buy food on a station, there's bound to be a shop nearby where you can buy food & drink at half the price on a station!
I had to do a double take. One of the HSTs actually DIDN'T have a buffet car. Never seen that before!
So Platform 8 then was where Platform 2 is now and Platform 9 then was where Platform 3 is now. They'll have changed the platforms sometime between then and the 25th July 1991 a couple of years later because on that day we went to Edinburgh for the day and boarded at Platform 2, the platform shown here. Why did they change the platforms numbers round, does anyone know?
A number of them were taken out of use, some replaced by car parking I believe.
I think 43091s wiper blade speed is linked to the power controller.
I never signed HST's so i wouldn't like to say. It certainly dfidn't work that way on locos.
Gah! Pacers! God help us from those bu... *COUGH* Trains! Sorry it's like, it must've once been used on roads.
A Leyland National bus body is quite strong, they were built well. Plenty of Nationals preserved and still going strong, complete with blue smoke!
Still not a fan of Pacers, or the Leyland buses for that matter. They're too extreme for me.
a 101 with two guards vans
Newcastle before the wires.
a hst with no buffet car