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The file is best , you are in complete control , and as Buckin says , feel and hear the wipe as the tooth is shaped . Took me many years to get to happy chain . But I am getting there .😊
I use the Harbor Freight chainsaw grinder. Works fantastic and 36 bucks shipped to my door was just to good to pass up for playing with saws. Project farm did a video on these and Harbor freight did well.
Have been using a file to sharpen chainsaw blades for close to 60 years and although I felt I was pretty good at it, I was never completely satisfied. Then one day I purchased a Timberline Sharpener and discovered just how well I could get an accurate sharpened blade.
I don't think there is any comparison. The grinder, when set correctly, gives consistent teeth that are the same length with same sharp edge. With a hand file, no matter what holder being used, has the file not cutting each tooth the same as it dulls quickly with some teeth not filing same as others as the grinding wheel does not dull.. And the person filing is an inaccurate element of the equation. Eyeballing the degrees filing and left or right filing more depending on a right handed or left handed person
I was going to buy an Oregon sharpener, but watched Project Farm and seen the Stihl one like Brock has. I have Echo saws and found the right sharpener and prefer it over anything else.
Why would you use something that does nothing to the rakers when I as a 100% newby older gent on a picnic table held my saw blade with a gloved hand and sharpened my 18" teeth and rakers with the Stihl and ended up shocking me with the pieces being removed from the logs.. I expected dust considering I used one hand and all videos show 2 hands yet I was clearly getting shavings. I was concerned initially as it is a full chisel chain and did not know how the 2 in one would work but I do now. I guess I might consider the automated but with no raker it is doubtful..
@@kenroman777 I considered Oregon because I bought several chains for 3 saws and would put on a new one when dull, then take all to the shop for sharpening. Now, I have the 2 in 1 Stihl, and it works great, plus saves me money. Clamp in a vise and sharpen away. Makes a difference when doing both raker and tooth at the same time.
I was kinda hoping you would of showed us how it cut after you sharpened it on the grinder. I have a cheap old harbor frate one. It's good to get chain back in shape if you were to hit something that damage a few teeth. Then I hand file.
I have a cheaper one from a hardware store, its great but it has one problem (I have heard some oregon have this too) when you switch sites the tooth lenght is not the same, so you need to measure it and adjust for the other side. For a regular dull chain I prefer the Stihl 2-1, for an ugly chain I prefer the grinder
Oh yea you saved a dollar . plastic gives especially after use the more you use the worse it gets . I reckon you can buy 2_a year and do alright these guys are using saws everyday not just once in every 2 years.
Grinders are great as long as you don't take to much off. Hand filing is kinda mandatory if you work in the woods you can't pack enough spare chains to cut all day especially if you're cutting stuff on the ground. That being said this still three and one tool makes hand filing pretty easy for most folks.
If ya clean that black streak off the grinding wheel with the dressing stone it will grind faster and cooler and lesve a sharper chain. The pink wheels work fine if they are clean.
Did I miss something ? Did you ever cut down the rakers on the teeth? I find that very important and I use an aggressive skip chain and keep those rakers low and I really like that on a 391 or 450 Stihl.
Rakers are done by resetting The grinder angle to zero and Passing the raker under the Grinding wheel. The leading Edge should be rounded. Do This with your flat file.
I like the idea of using the grinder, I just haven't wanted to spend the money without knowing how good they might be (reviews haven't been very helpful). Consistency helps a lot for getting a fast straight cut; with some wear on the bar and chain you'll get where the cut wants to slightly curve, and the consistency of the chain helps prevent that. Just a slight skim cut, unless you skip a rock or hit some metal in the tree, and your method is correct, so you don't get the tooth too hot. I wish you would have shown trimming the rakers though.
There are alot of neigh sayers on here. For most a chain is sharpest right out of the box. Those are NOT hand filed. Yes there are some that can file a chain to be as sharp as a new one. But most cant. I do hand file in the field if I need to and the rakers or depth gauges do not need touched every time you sharpen. I like to use the grinder about every third sharpen to even up the chain teeth and set the angle back to factory. Then use the raker gauge and touch up the rakers as well. I also use a CBN wheel on the grinder because it doesnt burn the teeth and makes a much smoother finish. The Oregon grinder is a great tool but it may not be for everyone.
Quit shaking your grinding wheel through the cutting surface please . Slow in and slow out and then compare the difference in your cutting surface . Good luck in the future chain grinding .😃😃👍👍👍👍
If this video was the first time out of the box sharpening video he got it nearly 100 % accurate . most of these first time users have not a clue what they are doing.when you change for the other side of the chain you should stop completely and reset the travel extender again . I can promise you not all chains are the same not even 2 of the supposedly professionally made chains. Buy a chain and take it back to the dealership to sharpen the chain the first time and see just what you get. Oh they will swear both sides are alike measure your teeth yourself and see what you get. Most of the time what you get is a guy to lazy to correctly adjust the other side of the chain. It will be sharp but his business is to sell you another chain as fast as possible . Not all are like that but the most are . No myths here just facts. And if this is your first time sharpening you chain you got it near perfect the first time . most of these guys making videos first time out of the box are clueless and try to sell videos. You'll learn a lot more through your own experiences. When I started I used old chains that didn't have much left. I made mistakes just like the most on here . some people can use a file itself correctly but they are not the majority they want to sell you their video . That's nothing mythical either . if you do it properly you won't beat the machine . And you'll burn up a tooth or several of them before you realized what you done on the first chain. Keep the 1\4 inch wheel and learn how to do rakers properly after you grind the wheel to a 45 degree angle . buy you a raker gauge and learn how to use it it don't need to take off much of the takes just like doing the tooth. Make that chain last as long as you can. What's mythology is getting only 4 or 5 sharpening from the machine . you should get 8 or 10 sharpenings . if you continue to to use the saw after hitting dirt rocks or metal that's when you start turning the edges of the tooth down. That's what takes more sharpening to turn the tooth back up straight again . when you wear the pink wheels get CBN wheels in 1\8 and 3\16 pink wheel might get you 20 sharpening per wheel. YOU might get a hundred the way you go about it. The CBN wheels will get you hundred maybe thousands if you hold your mouth right everything s in the users hands as to the longevity of saw your chains and your grinding wheel. I got a buddy that uses a deemed tool when he gets it good and scared up he'll bring it to me to straighten it up for him. His saws always cuts curves after he sharpens them. And you will learn something new every time you turn the machine on . don't think you got it all with the first single chain . sorry hand filers I know some of you are good at it . most are like my buddy with the deemed tool.
i see the chain you are sharpining has half s tooth left!!... chains in canada are 35 to 50 bucks a chain for a 16 in. bar so we use them right up!! i just free hand with a file no guide.....when bucking saw logs i would go through 2 to 2.5 chains in a 4.5 day work eeek!
Using a grinder shortens the life of your chain by 2-5 times. Think how much work time you could have saved if you learned how to use a file to maintain your chain continuously.. It takes no more than 5-7 minutes to give each tooth 1-3 strokes with a round file so that it is sharp all the time no matter if it is in a STIHL 2 in 1 or you do it manually by eye. PS. In your own interest, you should also learn to keep your chain away from soil and dirt. Good Luck.
@@PineyGroveHomestead My old school teacher 60 years ago would say it's because you're not trying hard enough. You don't have to think so much about angles etc as long as you hit something similar to a new equivalent chain. Likewise it doesn't matter if all the teeth are not the same length as long as they are all sharp. What matters for the chain's ability to cut is that the height of the rakersis are correct in relation to how much the tooth is filed down and there is a STIHL 2 in 1 an absolute must for people who don't understand the art of hand filing. You still have to file the rakers after the chain has been in your grinder.
My chains are as sharp as yours and I van get 10 to 12_Sharpening off a chain if you quit try to saw that metal fence post in to. Provided you haven't turn all the teeth down beyond saving it.
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Love the Stihl 2n1. Files the tooth and rakers in one stroke. The edge of the 2n1 gives you the angle at the inner edge of the handle.
Brock loves it!
Brad! Always making us better!
A sharp saw is a safe saw! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for showing, always wondered how to do this.
You're welcome! I hope it helped.
Thanks for showing how these grinders work. Good tutorial.👍
Thanks for watching!
The file is best , you are in complete control , and as Buckin says , feel and hear the wipe as the tooth is shaped . Took me many years to get to happy chain . But I am getting there .😊
Right on!
I use the Harbor Freight chainsaw grinder. Works fantastic and 36 bucks shipped to my door was just to good to pass up for playing with saws. Project farm did a video on these and Harbor freight did well.
Glad it works for you!
Have been using a file to sharpen chainsaw blades for close to 60 years and although I felt I was pretty good at it, I was never completely satisfied. Then one day I purchased a Timberline Sharpener and discovered just how well I could get an accurate sharpened blade.
It's nice to know you've found something that works for you.
Spend the money for a CBN wheel for that grinder. Game changer!
If we cut more wood, that would be a good investment!
i agree, grinding is so much more precision, just as fast
It works great for my needs!
Good video! I may order one of those!
I love it....takes all the guesswork out of the angles!
I don't think there is any comparison. The grinder, when set correctly, gives consistent teeth that are the same length with same sharp edge. With a hand file, no matter what holder being used, has the file not cutting each tooth the same as it dulls quickly with some teeth not filing same as others as the grinding wheel does not dull.. And the person filing is an inaccurate element of the equation. Eyeballing the degrees filing and left or right filing more depending on a right handed or left handed person
Agree.
I was going to buy an Oregon sharpener, but watched Project Farm and seen the Stihl one like Brock has. I have Echo saws and found the right sharpener and prefer it over anything else.
That's what everyone needs to do....find the tool that works for them!
Why would you use something that does nothing to the rakers when I as a 100% newby older gent on a picnic table held my saw blade with a gloved hand and sharpened my 18" teeth and rakers with the Stihl and ended up shocking me with the pieces being removed from the logs.. I expected dust considering I used one hand and all videos show 2 hands yet I was clearly getting shavings. I was concerned initially as it is a full chisel chain and did not know how the 2 in one would work but I do now. I guess I might consider the automated but with no raker it is doubtful..
@@kenroman777 This machine will do the rakers and you don't need to file them every time you sharpen
@@kenroman777 I considered Oregon because I bought several chains for 3 saws and would put on a new one when dull, then take all to the shop for sharpening. Now, I have the 2 in 1 Stihl, and it works great, plus saves me money. Clamp in a vise and sharpen away. Makes a difference when doing both raker and tooth at the same time.
I was kinda hoping you would of showed us how it cut after you sharpened it on the grinder. I have a cheap old harbor frate one. It's good to get chain back in shape if you were to hit something that damage a few teeth. Then I hand file.
It cut really good for a worn out chain but I tend to hit dirt a lot!
I have a cheaper one from a hardware store, its great but it has one problem (I have heard some oregon have this too) when you switch sites the tooth lenght is not the same, so you need to measure it and adjust for the other side. For a regular dull chain I prefer the Stihl 2-1, for an ugly chain I prefer the grinder
Harbor Freight has the same grinder for pennies on the dollar. It works exactly the same and does a great job sharpening your chains.
I totally understand trying to save money on tools!
Oh yea you saved a dollar . plastic gives especially after use the more you use the worse it gets . I reckon you can buy 2_a year and do alright these guys are using saws everyday not just once in every 2 years.
I have the same saw. It was a sad day when they stopped selling it in the US.
Many call it the best production saw made!
If I did this all the time I would follow Brocks way of doing it. But only doing it once a year, either a tool like this or just buy a new chain.
Lots of people sharpen by hand, but I'm not good at it! You can grind a chain 5 times or more before the teeth are too small.
Gullet and the point is what makes a good cutting chain.
I love this method. I would love to try this. What's the affordability of this tool?
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Grinders are great as long as you don't take to much off. Hand filing is kinda mandatory if you work in the woods you can't pack enough spare chains to cut all day especially if you're cutting stuff on the ground. That being said this still three and one tool makes hand filing pretty easy for most folks.
You're right, I like to have a spare chain ready to go.
If ya clean that black streak off the grinding wheel with the dressing stone it will grind faster and cooler and lesve a sharper chain. The pink wheels work fine if they are clean.
Good tip thanks, will try that on the next sharpening.
Did I miss something ? Did you ever cut down the rakers on the teeth? I find that very important and I use an aggressive skip chain and keep those rakers low and I really like that on a 391 or 450 Stihl.
This grinder will do rakers too, I just didn't do them in this video.
Rakers are done by resetting
The grinder angle to zero and
Passing the raker under the
Grinding wheel. The leading
Edge should be rounded. Do
This with your flat file.
I like the idea of using the grinder, I just haven't wanted to spend the money without knowing how good they might be (reviews haven't been very helpful). Consistency helps a lot for getting a fast straight cut; with some wear on the bar and chain you'll get where the cut wants to slightly curve, and the consistency of the chain helps prevent that. Just a slight skim cut, unless you skip a rock or hit some metal in the tree, and your method is correct, so you don't get the tooth too hot. I wish you would have shown trimming the rakers though.
You put on the 1/4" wheel and change to a 90 degree angle much like a chop saw
There are alot of neigh sayers on here. For most a chain is sharpest right out of the box. Those are NOT hand filed. Yes there are some that can file a chain to be as sharp as a new one. But most cant. I do hand file in the field if I need to and the rakers or depth gauges do not need touched every time you sharpen. I like to use the grinder about every third sharpen to even up the chain teeth and set the angle back to factory. Then use the raker gauge and touch up the rakers as well. I also use a CBN wheel on the grinder because it doesnt burn the teeth and makes a much smoother finish. The Oregon grinder is a great tool but it may not be for everyone.
This grinder can also adjust to give more of a round file grind than the straight edge I was doing in the video. Everyone has to find their own way!
They are not sharpest out o f the box. They are mediocre at best. But not sharp
I have both grinder & Sthil. Sthil is faster & better because you file the rakers and teeth with the same stroke.
Everyone has to be comfortable with their own method. This machine will do rakers too.
I sharpen my chain the some way and I have no problem with that ok Garry from Australia
It's a great way to keep your chainsaw sharp!
Some grinders do a great job, but you still have to flat file your rakers.
This grinder will do rakers too
I hate filing and I hate taking chain off saw, so I use Granberg bar mount sharpener.......
A good practice is to turn your bar over each time you sharpen.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Flipping bars dont mount to a hill of beans, dressing the bar after 100 fill-ups is the better thing to do..........
@@job38four10 Most of the cutting and down pressure is on the bottom of the bar leading to wear. Flipping the bar evens out the wear.
Quit shaking your grinding wheel through the cutting surface please . Slow in and slow out and then compare the difference in your cutting surface . Good luck in the future chain grinding .😃😃👍👍👍👍
I need more Red Bull!!
Touch and go you will soften the cutting edge. He's doing it correctly.
Touch and go OR you will.....
You should always clean the bar grove when you have the bar off.
Good tip!
It does not matter if each tooth is the same size. That is a myth. It's in your depth gauge that matters. I promise you.
If this video was the first time out of the box sharpening video he got it nearly 100 % accurate . most of these first time users have not a clue what they are doing.when you change for the other side of the chain you should stop completely and reset the travel extender again . I can promise you not all chains are the same not even 2 of the supposedly professionally made chains. Buy a chain and take it back to the dealership to sharpen the chain the first time and see just what you get. Oh they will swear both sides are alike measure your teeth yourself and see what you get. Most of the time what you get is a guy to lazy to correctly adjust the other side of the chain. It will be sharp but his business is to sell you another chain as fast as possible . Not all are like that but the most are . No myths here just facts. And if this is your first time sharpening you chain you got it near perfect the first time . most of these guys making videos first time out of the box are clueless and try to sell videos. You'll learn a lot more through your own experiences. When I started I used old chains that didn't have much left. I made mistakes just like the most on here . some people can use a file itself correctly but they are not the majority they want to sell you their video . That's nothing mythical either . if you do it properly you won't beat the machine . And you'll burn up a tooth or several of them before you realized what you done on the first chain. Keep the 1\4 inch wheel and learn how to do rakers properly after you grind the wheel to a 45 degree angle . buy you a raker gauge and learn how to use it it don't need to take off much of the takes just like doing the tooth. Make that chain last as long as you can. What's mythology is getting only 4 or 5 sharpening from the machine . you should get 8 or 10 sharpenings . if you continue to to use the saw after hitting dirt rocks or metal that's when you start turning the edges of the tooth down. That's what takes more sharpening to turn the tooth back up straight again . when you wear the pink wheels get CBN wheels in 1\8 and 3\16 pink wheel might get you 20 sharpening per wheel. YOU might get a hundred the way you go about it. The CBN wheels will get you hundred maybe thousands if you hold your mouth right everything s in the users hands as to the longevity of saw your chains and your grinding wheel. I got a buddy that uses a deemed tool when he gets it good and scared up he'll bring it to me to straighten it up for him. His saws always cuts curves after he sharpens them. And you will learn something new every time you turn the machine on . don't think you got it all with the first single chain . sorry hand filers I know some of you are good at it . most are like my buddy with the deemed tool.
i see the chain you are sharpining has half s tooth left!!... chains in canada are 35 to 50 bucks a chain for a 16 in. bar so we use them right up!!
i just free hand with a file no guide.....when bucking saw logs i would go through 2 to 2.5 chains in a 4.5 day work eeek!
Right?! I should have shown the other chain I had to sharpen but I had already started the video.. That chain has maybe one more sharpening left!
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lol....i get yhem so far the upright part of the tpoth is so thyn thry hreak off when you hit a knot!....
I can get chain sharpeners hand filing. If you can't it's because you fo not know how to hand file
I talk about that in the video.
Using a grinder shortens the life of your chain by 2-5 times.
Think how much work time you could have saved if you learned how to use a file to maintain your chain continuously.. It takes no more than 5-7 minutes to give each tooth 1-3 strokes with a round file so that it is sharp all the time no matter if it is in a STIHL 2 in 1 or you do it manually by eye.
PS. In your own interest, you should also learn to keep your chain away from soil and dirt. Good Luck.
I explain that in the video.
Nothing beats hand filing,my chains r razor sharp, but people r scared to do it !
@@PineyGroveHomestead My old school teacher 60 years ago would say it's because you're not trying hard enough.
You don't have to think so much about angles etc as long as you hit something similar to a new equivalent chain. Likewise it doesn't matter if all the teeth are not the same length as long as they are all sharp. What matters for the chain's ability to cut is that the height of the rakersis are correct in relation to how much the tooth is filed down and there is a STIHL 2 in 1 an absolute must for people who don't understand the art of hand filing. You still have to file the rakers after the chain has been in your grinder.
@@gunterbecker8528 👍There is an old Danish proverb that says "Practice makes perfect." 😇
My chains are as sharp as yours and I van get 10 to 12_Sharpening off a chain if you quit try to saw that metal fence post in to. Provided you haven't turn all the teeth down beyond saving it.