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Digitalizing is not something i would trust any software to automate. I rather keep control over my recordings and do every step manually while listening to the result along the way. This has worked for me the past 25 years and i’ve always been happy with the result. Adobe Audition has been my go to software ever since the beginning. And adding track names is a piece of cake with MP3tag.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trust the automatically placed track markers. You absolutely have to adjust them yourself, but it takes a lot of the work out of the earlier process. Your Adobe Audition process interests me. I have a copy with my Creative Cloud package, but I never use it.
I have to agree. The automation seems silly. Here's the thing, you're doing a lot of waiting around waiting for the real-time recording on the computer to occur. I'm not suggesting that automation isn't helpful. But this video is missing the point of these kinds of software. The real benefit is the declicking which isn't even discussed in the video. Instead we're demonstrated a feature in the tracking splitting process that it turns out isn't even recommended. I've done this many time in Audacity and it's really easy. You don't split up track like you do in this program. Instead you just highlight the track and cut & paste into a new file. Why bother being all that precise. And honestly I really don't care about tagging the files. I use MP3Tag for this, and guess what it's free and it will go into Discogs and pull tracks the same way. What's nice is that you can do this outside of the recording program. This is nice because you're in a different program which can be run while you're recording another side. As I've stated, the real benefit is declicking. Don't buy any program to digitally record records for anything else. The free stuff works well enough for everything else.
Hello, Please show us a step by step connection between the components. Or suggest a video if this has been shown already. Great content. Thanks so much
I second this! I don't see how the SSL2 preamp that you show, with its Neutrik combo XLR/14" jack inputs, can be easily coupled to the RCA plugs that come from most turntables and that are used with most phono preamps. Is the SSL2 even intended to be used as a preamp? I don't see that it does any sort of RIAA equalization, nor does it have any sort of ability to select between MM/MC stylus types.. I think a "Music Hall pa2.2" would be a more logical choice if you wanted something more high-end than the Rega part.
I'm lucky to be a DJ with quality gear at home, so I use the Pioneer DJM-V10-LF mixer with Pioneer's USB connected DJM-Rec iPhone app which captures the audio at superb digital quality as a WAV file and allows it to be saved to any of the cloud systems for subsequent processing on a PC. What I love about the DJM-V10 as a mixer is it has built in compression on each channel, specifically built to "fatten" out the vinyl recording. Makes life so simple although I do have to use MP3Tag software to add metadata like album cover art, artist, album and track titles, year of release etc. and I also use Adobe Audition to remove clicks and crackles on older vinyl or bad new pressings.
@@soundmatters THe click removal and other options under the Effects/Noise Reduction menu do amazing work on old vinyl. Auditon can also use VST plugins so it#s great for LUFS metering (required for pushing recordings out through streaming) and other repair tools like Izotope's amazing RX software.
Thanks for the tutorial in using the software (now looking at buying it), but as others have asked, I can't see how the physical setup is done. Please expand on how (and cables used) to connect the various devices. I use MM cartridges, Shure M97 for my LPs and an Audio Technica AT95 for 78s. My turntable has USB connection, but I'm looking to use a higher quality A2D. As there are lots of A2D devices with similar inputs to the SSL 2+, I'm hoping enlightenment on your connection setup can be successfully used on other A2D devices.
Seems I need to do a separate video on the hardware setup. Will add this to my to-do list. Essentially: RCA cables out of your phono preamp that go to a quarter-inch jack cable at the SSL 2+ end. You then need to change the input to "line level" on the SSL 2+. Will work on a video to demonstrate. The USB output will indeed have fairly basic A2D as you say.
Lossless compressed formats such as FLAC retain all the data in the same way you can zip a Word document and then unzip it and get the exact same file you compressed and not an abridged version of it.
And yet, no one - outside of Audiophiles - actually use FLAC files. I know that I don’t, for sure. I only just started using 320kbps MP3 files - only because I was to have already completed a recording for an online Radio Station, and they only use 320.
Just a heads up regarding sample rate. I've been sent quite a lot of transfers from wide-bandwidth MC, and to a lesser extent MM, setups over the last couple of years, and it appears that the practical bandwidth of the medium doesn't exceed more than 24kHz or so. In this light, using a sample rate of 48kHz is the best option, particularly as all that will be captured above this point will be ultrasonic distortion and noise, which can be quite intense in MC setups where the tracking bandwidth can exceed 40kHz... If you start reproducing ultrasonic content and distortion, it can upset electronics in the signal path. They may have missed a trick not calling it 'Vinyl Destination'.
Thanks Micheal. Sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to this. It was your preamp (the MC Pro) that I used for this actually. I’m not as knowledgeable as you are in this area, but I’m assuming this relates to nyquist theorem. If the bandwidth doesn’t exceed beyond 24KHz then why capture it: I see your logic. I need to pick your brain on this….
It's on my list. At the moment, I only have a tutorial on this over on my Patreon page: www.patreon.com/posts/repairing-vinyl-101295804?Link& Easier to do over there given the challenges of copyright on here.
Another great video! Keep it up! Also how is the click removal software on Vinyl Studio compared to Audacity? Or do you use another software for that? If so what software and will you make a video about it someday or soon?
Its very good. You can manually insert your own corrections as well. That takes some experience though looking for the exact spot. Have a really good method of cleaning the disc ahead of time helps the most though. Get rid of as much dust and grime as possible going in.
Hi and thanks for the video. I am looking at downloading some of my rare vinyl to digital format to add to my digital jukebox. I have a question about connecting the rega to the SSL2+. Are you using a RCA to balanced 1/4 cable or RCA to XLR? Also are you keeping each cable separate and using both XLR inputs on the SSL2+? I have never hooked these up before and I cannot find a good answer through my many internet searches. Thanks
Thanks again for a very informative video! I think I'll purchase an SSL2+, but I'm not an expert in using a laptop or computer. Does the manual of the SSL2+ explain how the device has to be connected?
Glad it helped. To a degree, yes, but it’s worth noting that if you’re connecting a phone preamp to the SSL, then you’ll need cables that are RCA to 1/4 inch jack. 👍 - hope that helps. You choose “line level” at the input by a switch.
@@soundmatters ,thanks for your answer. Is there another way to connect the phono pre amp to the SSL2 + or is the way you describe it the only one? Thanks in advance 👍
What is the best way to transfer vinyl to get the best quality? I am about to begin recording my vinyl collection but debating on how to do it. I’ve got the audio technica lp 120 USB turntable with AT-VM95SH stylus. I have a Sony str-av1020 receiver. I can transfer the record straight to cd via an external cd recorder. Then import the cd into my laptop as a wave file using iTunes. I’ve always been happy with the quality doing it this way. Or I could connect the turntable straight to my laptop either through usb or to the mic jack and record that way without the receiver bc turntable has internal amp. I use audacity and export it as wave that way. I don’t use editing filters to remove pops etc…I think using filters takes away from the natural sound. Or I can use receiver and connect to mic jack on laptop. I wasn’t sure if it makes difference when recording to laptop if I should use receiver or internal amp with turntable. My laptop runs on windows 10 with the sound card that came with it. Could the sound card lessen the quality bc it is not a top of the line sound card? I thought still sounded pretty good. But I just want to make sure I’m getting the best results before investing lot of time. Could the sound card affect the quality whether I connect through usb? Hopefully this makes sense it’s just there are so many ways to record…appreciate any feedback. And by quality I am referring to the natural smooth sound of the lp. I know the stylus can make a difference and that is why I upgraded to the shibata. My lps are in great condition, every now and then there might my a pop or crackle but I do not mind that. I love lot of bass. I am kinda just leaning towards recording straight to cd recorder via Sony receiver but want to make sure. Any tips on scanning lp covers? I plan on doing it with gimp art and scanning in portions and then put together. If there is an easier way with great results please let me know. Thank you!
It does have basic normalization of bringing the volume up to 0db. But to make the music sound more "modern" I open the audio file in Reaper64 and use a "JS: Zero Crossing Maximizer". That brings up all the musical data in a more even way so that the volume is louder, but does not exceed the db limit or cause distortion/clipping. Some purists might not like that, but when I playback my vinyl recordings they sound similar to CD quality instead of a noticeable drop in volume like I was experiencing at first.
I wish I could find someone in the Detroit MI> area to assist me in working with the Vinyl Studio app. Also I wish that Alpine would respond to my E-Mail.
Really poor decision idea to use background music when explaining the editing process.... would have been far more useful to demonstrate what the effect of your editing was by actually playing back the track you were working on.
Thanks for watching! Do drop your comments and questions below. If you'd like to support the channel, check the video description for many DISCOUNT CODES codes to enjoy money off various products and feed your vinyl habit! (I earn a small commission - no additional cost to you). Thank you for your support!
Digitalizing is not something i would trust any software to automate. I rather keep control over my recordings and do every step manually while listening to the result along the way. This has worked for me the past 25 years and i’ve always been happy with the result. Adobe Audition has been my go to software ever since the beginning. And adding track names is a piece of cake with MP3tag.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I wouldn't trust the automatically placed track markers. You absolutely have to adjust them yourself, but it takes a lot of the work out of the earlier process. Your Adobe Audition process interests me. I have a copy with my Creative Cloud package, but I never use it.
I have to agree. The automation seems silly. Here's the thing, you're doing a lot of waiting around waiting for the real-time recording on the computer to occur. I'm not suggesting that automation isn't helpful. But this video is missing the point of these kinds of software. The real benefit is the declicking which isn't even discussed in the video. Instead we're demonstrated a feature in the tracking splitting process that it turns out isn't even recommended. I've done this many time in Audacity and it's really easy. You don't split up track like you do in this program. Instead you just highlight the track and cut & paste into a new file. Why bother being all that precise. And honestly I really don't care about tagging the files. I use MP3Tag for this, and guess what it's free and it will go into Discogs and pull tracks the same way. What's nice is that you can do this outside of the recording program. This is nice because you're in a different program which can be run while you're recording another side. As I've stated, the real benefit is declicking. Don't buy any program to digitally record records for anything else. The free stuff works well enough for everything else.
Hello, Please show us a step by step connection between the components. Or suggest a video if this has been shown already. Great content. Thanks so much
Will add this to the list of content ideas
I second this! I don't see how the SSL2 preamp that you show, with its Neutrik combo XLR/14" jack inputs, can be easily coupled to the RCA plugs that come from most turntables and that are used with most phono preamps. Is the SSL2 even intended to be used as a preamp? I don't see that it does any sort of RIAA equalization, nor does it have any sort of ability to select between MM/MC stylus types.. I think a "Music Hall pa2.2" would be a more logical choice if you wanted something more high-end than the Rega part.
I'm lucky to be a DJ with quality gear at home, so I use the Pioneer DJM-V10-LF mixer with Pioneer's USB connected DJM-Rec iPhone app which captures the audio at superb digital quality as a WAV file and allows it to be saved to any of the cloud systems for subsequent processing on a PC. What I love about the DJM-V10 as a mixer is it has built in compression on each channel, specifically built to "fatten" out the vinyl recording. Makes life so simple although I do have to use MP3Tag software to add metadata like album cover art, artist, album and track titles, year of release etc. and I also use Adobe Audition to remove clicks and crackles on older vinyl or bad new pressings.
Cool. Sounds like you've got a process going! Adobe Audition is not a package I've used heavily, but I do have a license. Enjoy the music!
@@soundmatters THe click removal and other options under the Effects/Noise Reduction menu do amazing work on old vinyl. Auditon can also use VST plugins so it#s great for LUFS metering (required for pushing recordings out through streaming) and other repair tools like Izotope's amazing RX software.
Thanks for the tutorial in using the software (now looking at buying it), but as others have asked, I can't see how the physical setup is done. Please expand on how (and cables used) to connect the various devices. I use MM cartridges, Shure M97 for my LPs and an Audio Technica AT95 for 78s. My turntable has USB connection, but I'm looking to use a higher quality A2D. As there are lots of A2D devices with similar inputs to the SSL 2+, I'm hoping enlightenment on your connection setup can be successfully used on other A2D devices.
Seems I need to do a separate video on the hardware setup. Will add this to my to-do list. Essentially: RCA cables out of your phono preamp that go to a quarter-inch jack cable at the SSL 2+ end. You then need to change the input to "line level" on the SSL 2+. Will work on a video to demonstrate. The USB output will indeed have fairly basic A2D as you say.
Hi. Great video. Grateful if you can show how you physically connected everything (turntable, SSL 2+, computer) and the cables you used. Thank you!
I'll add this to my list of topics. Thanks for watching!
This is exactly the question I was going to ask too!
Lossless compressed formats such as FLAC retain all the data in the same way you can zip a Word document and then unzip it and get the exact same file you compressed and not an abridged version of it.
Yes, I’m aware
And yet, no one - outside of Audiophiles - actually use FLAC files. I know that I don’t, for sure. I only just started using 320kbps MP3 files - only because I was to have already completed a recording for an online Radio Station, and they only use 320.
Just a heads up regarding sample rate. I've been sent quite a lot of transfers from wide-bandwidth MC, and to a lesser extent MM, setups over the last couple of years, and it appears that the practical bandwidth of the medium doesn't exceed more than 24kHz or so. In this light, using a sample rate of 48kHz is the best option, particularly as all that will be captured above this point will be ultrasonic distortion and noise, which can be quite intense in MC setups where the tracking bandwidth can exceed 40kHz... If you start reproducing ultrasonic content and distortion, it can upset electronics in the signal path.
They may have missed a trick not calling it 'Vinyl Destination'.
Or “Vinyl Stop”. 😂
Thanks Micheal. Sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to this. It was your preamp (the MC Pro) that I used for this actually. I’m not as knowledgeable as you are in this area, but I’m assuming this relates to nyquist theorem. If the bandwidth doesn’t exceed beyond 24KHz then why capture it: I see your logic. I need to pick your brain on this….
And a man with good taste in music like T.Rex, Beatles.
Thanks for watching 🎶🎧
Have you made a tutorial on how to optimise the recorded sound, like getting rid of scratches and pops? If you have could you post a link, please?
It's on my list. At the moment, I only have a tutorial on this over on my Patreon page: www.patreon.com/posts/repairing-vinyl-101295804?Link&
Easier to do over there given the challenges of copyright on here.
Thanks!
Thank you! 🫶🏻
Another great video! Keep it up!
Also how is the click removal software on Vinyl Studio compared to Audacity? Or do you use another software for that? If so what software and will you make a video about it someday or soon?
Thanks! Yes, that topic is on my list. 🎶🎧
Its very good. You can manually insert your own corrections as well. That takes some experience though looking for the exact spot. Have a really good method of cleaning the disc ahead of time helps the most though. Get rid of as much dust and grime as possible going in.
Hi and thanks for the video. I am looking at downloading some of my rare vinyl to digital format to add to my digital jukebox. I have a question about connecting the rega to the SSL2+. Are you using a RCA to balanced 1/4 cable or RCA to XLR? Also are you keeping each cable separate and using both XLR inputs on the SSL2+? I have never hooked these up before and I cannot find a good answer through my many internet searches. Thanks
I wondered the same myself.
Thanks again for a very informative video! I think I'll purchase an SSL2+, but I'm not an expert in using a laptop or computer. Does the manual of the SSL2+ explain how the device has to be connected?
Glad it helped. To a degree, yes, but it’s worth noting that if you’re connecting a phone preamp to the SSL, then you’ll need cables that are RCA to 1/4 inch jack. 👍 - hope that helps. You choose “line level” at the input by a switch.
@@soundmatters ,thanks for your answer. Is there another way to connect the phono pre amp to the SSL2 + or is the way you describe it the only one? Thanks in advance 👍
What is the best way to transfer vinyl to get the best quality? I am about to begin recording my vinyl collection but debating on how to do it. I’ve got the audio technica lp 120 USB turntable with AT-VM95SH stylus. I have a Sony str-av1020 receiver. I can transfer the record straight to cd via an external cd recorder. Then import the cd into my laptop as a wave file using iTunes. I’ve always been happy with the quality doing it this way. Or I could connect the turntable straight to my laptop either through usb or to the mic jack and record that way without the receiver bc turntable has internal amp. I use audacity and export it as wave that way. I don’t use editing filters to remove pops etc…I think using filters takes away from the natural sound. Or I can use receiver and connect to mic jack on laptop. I wasn’t sure if it makes difference when recording to laptop if I should use receiver or internal amp with turntable. My laptop runs on windows 10 with the sound card that came with it. Could the sound card lessen the quality bc it is not a top of the line sound card? I thought still sounded pretty good. But I just want to make sure I’m getting the best results before investing lot of time. Could the sound card affect the quality whether I connect through usb? Hopefully this makes sense it’s just there are so many ways to record…appreciate any feedback. And by quality I am referring to the natural smooth sound of the lp. I know the stylus can make a difference and that is why I upgraded to the shibata. My lps are in great condition, every now and then there might my a pop or crackle but I do not mind that. I love lot of bass. I am kinda just leaning towards recording straight to cd recorder via Sony receiver but want to make sure. Any tips on scanning lp covers? I plan on doing it with gimp art and scanning in portions and then put together. If there is an easier way with great results please let me know. Thank you!
What we need is something to convert CD to vinyl, Edison cylinder would be better as no tracking error.
can i transfer vinyl straight to a portable cd burner i dont use a pc....
Just curious: why did you choose AIFF over ALAC?
Whats different with the pro version than standard?
Here is a list of the additional Pro features: www.alpinesoft.co.uk/VinylStudio/VinylStudio_pro.aspx
Does Vinyl Studio allow for normaizaition of the audio recording? Also is normalization this something that you reommend?
It does have basic normalization of bringing the volume up to 0db. But to make the music sound more "modern" I open the audio file in Reaper64 and use a "JS: Zero Crossing Maximizer". That brings up all the musical data in a more even way so that the volume is louder, but does not exceed the db limit or cause distortion/clipping. Some purists might not like that, but when I playback my vinyl recordings they sound similar to CD quality instead of a noticeable drop in volume like I was experiencing at first.
I wish I could find someone in the Detroit MI> area to assist me in working with the Vinyl Studio app. Also I wish that Alpine would respond to my E-Mail.
It's a shame you're having trouble getting hold of them. What issues are you facing?
Plus Audacity 3.5.1 doesn't even work on my MacBook Pro M1 Max with Sonoma 14.4.1
Have you tried Ocenaudio instead? It might be worth a go.
Really poor decision idea to use background music when explaining the editing process.... would have been far more useful to demonstrate what the effect of your editing was by actually playing back the track you were working on.
CD ripping programs do this for free. Just another money grab.