Chibson Les Paul Custom in White
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2023
- -So the background on this one is that my good friend Fraser from www.gypsyskiss.net, purchased a few knockoff guitars from China (mainly chibson les paul's), here is the first one of three. My thoughts and and play through at the end. Please support my channel and buy me a coffee or perhaps a beer or two, if your feeling generous a holiday in the sunshine would be nice :) LOL
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As the owner of an "authentic" Gibson Les Paul Custom in Alpine White, and as my first 'real' electric was a '79 Ebony Custom; I can say a few things about what they're getting right and wrong with at least the aesthetics of this axe. This helps in identifying the fakes as they get better at masking their identities. They're getting better, but not quite there. I can't speak to the feel and such as I've never owned a Chibson, but the look for sure.
(1) The headstock. Though they got the diamond bigger, it's in the wrong place. I think in an effort to make their smaller diamond look bigger, they have simply moved it closer to the logo and increased the size of the truss rod cover. The cover goes past the first two tuning pegs, but on the real thing, it ends much sooner and the diamond begins at the tip. This is in their effort to cover the truss rod access with a 2 screw cover. The Gibson logo is still in the wrong place, so that's also an immediate tell.
(2) Neck and fretboard. To someone unfamiliar with the Customs, the neck looks almost identical given the fret nibs, but the inlays don't have the depth of real mother of pearl (same with the diamond on the headstock). They are milky looking and don't have that chatoyancy that gives them an almost 3d look. They are trying way too hard on the fret nibs and covering too much fret wire. Even my other Gibson guitars don't have that much "nib" on the wire. The side dots on the Chibson are smaller than those on the real Custom.
(3) Body and finish. The first, obvious difference is nitro vs poly. There's not better or worse, just a preference, but the Gibson Custom does have a nitro finish and that will yellow with age. The brilliant white that is seen in this video should continue to be the color of this guitar for years to come. Some people prefer one over the other.
Again, it's all preference, and the ownership is personal. I don't have a Chibson or even an Epiphone, but it would certainly make for more peace of mind playing live if I did. Thievery and accidental breakage are always a concern. They're certainly getting better at the aesthetic.
@jimwoodward64... a fair analysis and I appreciate everything you said. People should buy what they want and can afford but not deceptively present one of these Chibsons as the real 'authentic' thing- at sale or just talking among friends. I agree with Barlow that a lot of these knockoffs could stand on their own in the marketplace without having to wear a counterfeit logo. Btw I play Epiphone LPs and Specials, the authorized Gibson knockoffs so-to-speak, primarily for the cost savings. I think some of these Chibsons are running right with the brand name Asian guitars on quality and value and probably eating into Epi sales moreso than Gibson. I would not personally be opposed to owning a Chibson LP but I wouldn't say it was real to impress others, or try to sell it as a Gibson. In the end though, a good guitar is a good guitar. If none of them wore brand names, we'd all have to be much more objective about what we like and why.
Why should I care if the diamond is bigger or whether it's nitro or poly? For $300 I can get a well-made instrument, that plays well and for another $400, simply replace the hardware and have $5k left over in my pocket.
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Absolutely brilliant channel ,no waffle ,I agree with how you deal with guitars and you get to the point,honestly and accurately keep up the good work.Sad to hear about CGS I’d never have known if it wasn’t mentioned on one of your videos👍👍🎸🎸🎸
Wow even binding over frets now too. That was one of my sure fire ways of detecting the fakes. Ace channel love the straight talking and honesty 👍👍👍
I fell in love with this guitar at the very first glance.
At first glance, it looks superb.
I think you're doing a great job, keep it up! 👍👍
looks gorgeous
I got my higher end chibson for $300
Came with fret nibs too
Feels amazing
I did all the work myself to save money
Learned how to do a fret level too!
I put about $400 in parts
Zakk wyld pickups and changed all the hardware and plastics. It plays amazing
But it sure does make me want to buy a real gibson soon.
ay slide me the link 👀
Link please? 😊
Yeah which shop?
I got the same one with a bigsby, Fantastic! almost perfect. Sounds good too.
I’m 54 and also struggling with my eyes a bit, but the guitar looks nice.
If I play a gig I can’t hear any difference with tiny electronic changes, I only notice feed back or perhaps low response which can sometimes be pick-up height.
I also think the Nashville style bridge is more responsive acoustically than an ABR 1 post style!
I think this is a interesting series, my one request would be to get review of how the guitars are holding up after some time getting played (preferably by punk bands lol). I really like the single pickup version, maybe I can order one without the branding then it would simply be a good guitar at a cheap price 🤔 who could disagree with that 🤷♂️
A few weeks ago a friend of mine said exact same thing about a Chinese made guitar. Pickup is so light. When we took it apart it was a single coil in both rhythm and lead pickup's neither of us had ever ever ever seen anything like that 😮
Yikes
Beautiful guitar
At last someone who's not afraid to play! I luv it.
Great review, camera work much improved :-)) Would be great to hear your comments on the acoustic guitar, would be interesting to see how the acoustic Chinese guitar compare to the electrics
Looks like the bridge has the un-slotted post pins, which is great. I'm a sucker for a white guitar, that Les Paul is gorgeous.
it blows my mind hoe good they are getting now! Fret nibs, and proper looking bridge! Just noticed that one now has the correct font on the truss rod cover! Wild
I've got 2 Chibsons. One is a Zakk Wylde Vertigo Les Paul which I want to install a Fishman rechargeable back cover plate and the Zakk Wylde EMG active pickup set. The other is the '63 reissue Les Paul SG, which I have most of the upgrades already purchased. The genuine Gibson Maestro vibrato was around $400 !!! Still need pickups and electronics.@@keithhastings7976
Bought a Chibson Jimmy Page#2 for $240. and for the money, I have 0 complaints
Love the vid ❤
I have a Chibson Custom in the aged white, yellowed finish. I changed the pickups and wiring harness to Epiphone Probucker open coil with gold slugs and screws, sounds great now and I get the split coil sound as a bonus. I changed the pickguard to a five ply and the truss rod cover for a much more correct looking quality one from Japan, looks 100% better now. Great guitar for very little coin. If it were stolen, lost, or smashed at a gig you wouldn't be out thousands, that's where I see these in the scheme of things. By the way great hair mate, ha ha.
Take it from a hater, don't listen to the haters. You're just doing a guitar show, nothing to hate about that. there are some people who deserve to be hated (Politicians), you're not one of them. Rock forth, Amigo!
Hello love your channel iv got the chipson ace frehley 3 pick up
If i put the dirty torque in the bridge what would you recommend as a set of 3
Thank you 🎸😎
Regarding the bridge spring issue Dave, just put the springs to the rear of the bridge pieces, instead of at the front, if they're not long enough put longer ones in. They'll still do the job, they're intended to do.
tried that
How about giving us some clean and breakup tones on the Irongear pickups, are they all rounders?
That’s what they looked like before they age. I personally love the pure white. It’ll do its thing in time. The ivory are pretty great looking too though.
This Chibson is not bad at all, it even has fret bindings, most chibsons I've seen don't have that.
Looks like the pickup is one of those dummy pickups,where it’s really a single coil under a hum bucker cover,sometimes there’s two bobbins but only one is wound.
Lovely guitar. If it was cherry red would be perfect for me
I have a black one no problem did change bridge pickup with Duncan 59
Hey do you have a link for this specific lp custom? The headstock looks the best I’ve seen on them.
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@@DaveBarlowGuitar thanks! Although I don’t have Facebook anymore : (.
It’s 5 October, 2023 as I leave my comment. I began learning to play guitar in April 1995. In the time since, there have been a few different finishes that have fascinated me, and this is one of them. If I didn’t have too many guitars and wasn’t so caught up in the whole issue of outsource instruments instead of those produced here in the US where I live, a model more or less the same as this would definitely tempt me. I’d have to decide if my conscience could live with having the Gibson nameplate attached to a model they didn’t manufacture. Isn’t that like calling an ox a bull?
A faux whatever it is that it is not, is seriously not worth owning. Like I dream of having a Strandberg and a Ric 4003 bass, but I would never want an inferior imitation , or want others to believe I had one.
Just ask for a custom nameplate in the headstock. I do that with my own logo. No big deal.
Thank you, @@FernandoOliveira1979. That would be worth consideration if I decided I wanted one of these or something like it.
@@Shred_The_Weapon It's not a big deal. If you want to be honest with yourself, be honest about it to others. I wear replica sneakers and whenever I get compliments, I just tell them they're fake. No judgement or anything, in fact it's the opposite. They want to know where I'm getting them haha
Have you tried turning the bridge around-not the saddles, therefore putting the springs on the opposite side?
yes
Since the end of 2011 Gibson has been building LP Custom with "richlite" (phenolic resin and recycled paper) fretboards. A very resistent material used by other manufactures of fine instruments.
No they went back to ebony some years ago
I want one... one of favourite customs finishes. Now just need to leave it in the sun until it yellows like randy rhoads guitar
I love white guitars. And the good thing about that one is it is poly. So, in 10 years it will still be white.
Great video. You weren't kidding when saying something along the lines of how far the quality of these knock-offs have come along. What's the sustain like on these Chibson's? Some folks say the sustain beyond the 15th fret falls short of a real Gibby.
Exactly!
Where are u finding side dots tht glow a bit in the dark love to use those on my guitars . Thks Dave
Luminous Sticker Sheet Self-Adhesive
Nice , thank you sir .
I have been looking at these guitars for a while but something cought my eye in bringing them to the UK at customs a guitar got pulled are they legally allowed to in the UK as they are fake Gibsons ?
Yes, there is another video where the guy explains, apparently they put a sticker over the Gibson logo saying "SG Custom" or something, customs cant remove the sticker as that would be tampering with the guitar, then it's up to the buyer if they want to remove the sticker or not. Also they are not "fake" as there is deliberate differences (also they are obviously a lot cheaper), they are "replicas" if you like.
I'm currently looking at a few Chinese '67 V copy's, no way I can justify a couple of grand for a real one. Would love to know which factory/shop these come from.
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That fretboard looks like it could do with a bit of cleanup Dave. Might pay to invest in one of those stewmac fret kissers for those couple of frets that need levelling too. They're great when you don't need to do a full fret level.
But thats the thing with Chibsons, they're very hit and miss - especially with setups. Out of the lot I bought, I reckon only 2 where setup playable from the get go (and in my eyes was a bonus). Every time I bought one, I'd expect to do work on them. If you don't have to, WIINNER LOL.
Yeah I agree, however just purchased my second Wolfgang special made in Mexico and again I cried because of the poor workmanship, spent the whole day trying to get it to play correctly, this was a £900 guitar.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Yep. Its disheartening when a $300 guitar plays better than a $900 out of the box. Personally I don't think a $1000+ guitar should need anything more than a quick quick setting of the action and a truss rod adjustment for the climate. The reality is even expensive guitars can be dogs if the company producing doesn't care what they put out. Its partly why I'll take a chance on some of the cheapies - at least I'll end up with something thats got what I want in it instead of starting with a $1000 guitar and adding another $500 of parts onto to get to where I want it.
I think, re the branding, is, like me, people buy them to gig with, so they don’t have to take their $4500 plus Gibson to a dive bar, but they still have the “look”. Maybe shallow, but it is what it is, and there is a market, obviously.
That aside, it’s a fantastic guitar for the price. I own 2 now, and I’m waiting on the Iron Gear Dirty Torque/Blues Engine pickups to arrive. 😎😎😎
What company did you buy them from?
What's funny is that, if these had literally Chibson stamped on the headstock, they would literally sell like hotcakes.
With you on that, Dave. The real white Gibsons always look cheap, however much people have spent on them.
So they've making some consistently so that they can be set up. A few of those frets don't look properly seated, mind, so they could shift after a bit.
Though that was a shit masking job for when they painted the guitar after putting the binding and side dots in.
Still wouldn't have one, either. Certainly not with someone else's logo on it.
Funny how Chibsons are villainized but Epi's and Squiers are ok, when the truth is THOSE are just AUTHORIZED Chibsons.
Not annoying at all. It is possible to streamline a guitar build for a great price. Very. Not a Gibson, but is it worth every penny....indeed.
Would love one. Can't afford a Gibson. Knowing my luck customs will nab it though.
since there are so many dealers, it would be convenient to know which dealer this LP is, so as not to have surprises from others!
I will be doing a video on how to purchase and where very soon.
might crack open that pickup for giggles to see if its a "fake" humbucker...
a mate here in the usa reviewed a grote model LP and found fakes in it!
the company swiftly fixed the problem after his detailed review......hope not many "fake" HB units got out!
have you tried vanson pickups? im gonna try some "59 vantage voiced" humbuckers from them...tried a strat middle from them and love it to bits!
Witch is the best website to buy from if you can help thanks
just search 'polaris4music'
@@DaveBarlowGuitar😊many thanks
Thanks for the video and review. I have a chines les paul custom 54 (p90s, wraparound bridge, maple top) "custom order". In general it is nice guitar, for me the worst thing is the nibs finishing, dont properly sit on the freets tips, they should be set better. Mine has as well wierd frets dots. Not well centered and a bit faded some of them.
Regards
Yeah I have seen this as well, if its a keeper get the frets changed.
Any chance you can remove the springs in the bridge ???
You can remove them but then the saddles dont work correctly.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar ... time for a new bridge.
Looks like medium frets?
LOL I have a few guitars with The illumination Markers came from factory that way. I'm 59 yrs old. So yeah.. $250 quid equals $303 US Dollars 🤑💰 💵
Who did you order it from? Thanks, Gary
Its not mine, belongs to a customer, get in the discord server discord.com/channels/1133261292321378395/1133261292761792638
Dave, Ill never be able to afford a new Gibson. but if I could it would be that very guitar in that color. Im also not a fan of the logo so Id remove it... or have it removed to avoid damage. Can you give me the link to the seller? Im fully aware no two guitars are the same. The one I get might be 180°... condition wise and Im willing to accept that.Not to sound pushy but...I have the $ now and would like to order soon! Thanks for your time and patience.
I had one just like that. It's placement of bridge and tailpiece were way off spec. Changed out the pickups and tuners and it was a bit wonky in intonation, but what a beast it was. More powerful chunk then either of my 2 real Gibson Lp's.
There are some bridges with more room for the saddles. You can try searching some of that online.
Better than the epi?
Con unos pequeños ajustes te queda una guitarra que *Vale lo que cuesta* : ) De hecho tengo una ST en camino....
Thats great :)
If the logo bothers, just ask for a custom logo. I do that with my chinese guitars. Just design a logo and send them the .jpg.
I have owned several and for an extra couple dollars I get them to put my name on the headstock 😉
Have you not had any customs problems ? I would love a Steve Jones copy just dont like the thought of customs taking it. I think they are about $300
no issues yet
For the money, I guess you can’t go wrong. Where would I pick up a really good B.B. King Lucille Guitar
I cant say due to restrictions
Looks pretty Good --what on earth is a CHIBSON ?-----OK --Chinese copy of a Les Paul ?--Now I see why !
I feel love it.
Shit I can't afford a real gibson is have to mortgage my life
I ordered a copy of the esp ltd 401 a tele with neck thru design.
I'm looking now to order a esp lespaul also a neck thru body
Instead of one guitar I'm gonna get a couple for fun.
I see some differences like knob placement I'm not sure what the neck will be like hopefully for me like a schemer or ibanez I say them cause I have one
I just saw myself Out your window, I'm Kayaking
Haha I bought 72 replicas from customs about a year and a half ago for 25.00 each undamaged for 1800.00 as projects for my music class I teach.
where to buy?
see my recent chibson videos
The side dots are really off center. Also some of the inlays are not really in the center too. 12th fret looks more to the left on the bass side.
Locking tuners, treble bleed and alpha pots will bring in proper Gibson tones.
At this point you should be able to play that neck blindfolded
Dave that's the exact one i'm looking at buying. It's on AE for like £150. I want to buy it but i'm scared it'll be a POS! I know the pickups will be crap and maybe the electronics as well but i could live with that and upgrade as and when. But it has to be able to be set up to play well. I'm just worried it'll come with warped neck, frets all sticking out and be a real horror show!! As far as the logo, i want that as i'll never be able to afford a real one!
all the guitars I have had in the workshop have been top quality builds and materials with the exception of hardware, machine heads, pickups, bridge etc
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Do you think the diamond looks smaller than the real one? See the guy that bought those Chibbie's? Did he not get asked to pay customs or anything? Reason i ask is i heard a guy in the US had his seized by Customs when they saw it was a counterfeit and they must have informed Gibson and they sent a letter to the guy telling him not to do it again! Seriously. I mean what happens in a situation like that if they seize the guitar? Can you get your money back or...?
I have no idea @@JohnVieto
@@DaveBarlowGuitar The guy is your friend did you not ask him how he got it through customs with the Gibson logo? Border force will impound that right away if they see it as copyright violation and counterfeiting. If it's in a batch of guitars coming into the country they'll impound the whole batch. That's why some folks tell the guys who make it to put another makers little logo sticker over the Gibson logo to try to get round it. I saw a video from a UK you tuber where he got a letter from Border Force saying he'd ordered a counterfeit product and they had informed Gibson. They gave him the option for them to dispose of it or if he disputed it and refused to have it disposed they would then allow Gibson to take legal action against him! No joke man. He even put the letter up on the screen to show the viewers.
Ebonized fretboard ?
Lol
@@SpinGoldmusic My first acoustic guitar was a Sigma Martin .. They are copies of Martins, It had an Ebonized fretboard is what I was told when I first bought it in the early seventies new.. Back then Martin did not make laminated guitars and did not want to tarnish their reputation making them ! Sigma was a cheap Martin produced using the Martin patients and with USA made strings on them new they were great guitars.. A solid wood guitar can be repaired and a laminated wood guitar can not.. Solid wood guitars cost more to produce and are more expensive and people want to buy cheap just like I did in the seventies... lol
@RadiationDay ya I don't get these guys. You can buy affordable well built legitimate guitars now. But it's like wearing a fake Rolex I guess...?
@@SpinGoldmusic Look at what they cost compared to an Epi ... Gibson is making a killing off of Chinese copies of Gibsons ...
Freedom of speech is highly underrated. 👌
Hey Dave, you hear if its african mahogany?
I got a gold top one of those from work, a customer tricked a member of staff and gave him £300 so I bought it for £300 so they don’t lose money. Mines a les Paul custom with 3 pickups 😂
I hated this bridge - always moving the intonation out of wack, weird noises when playing etc.
Thanks for your rec on the resomax, not looked back
Wait... OZZY Jake....Badlands Jake..... or Red Dragon Cartel Jake??. LoL do guitars have vintage tone fingers after Playing 50 years 😅
TBH I need to work on that riff a little more :)
It's disappointing that the Chinese made guitars that are quite good quality gave the Gibson name on them, it's a shame actually. I would buy one if they didn't have the Gibson logo on them.
You can order them with any logo you want.
@fivekoks2131 not every seller offers that. There was one particular seller that has amazing quality but his guitars all have the Gibson logo. I've seen his work and it's amazing
So it's a pickup review, not a guitar review?
its not a review, its information
It’s not a grote pickup is it ,a humbucker with only one coil in it 😂😂
I'm a lefty so even if I wanted some of these models, Gibson doesn't make them.
ive seen the logos on the other chinese brands.
so instead, they should just use ‘Chibson’ in place of ‘Gibson’ on these…
He know what he talking about ,,honestly, that whole gettin what you pay for myth is just that, a myth , but this pos knock off, it just as gooder
After all, Chibson makes one hell of a virus.
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If Chibson guys hate Gibson brand so much, and say that Gibson makes shitty guitars, WHY the hell they want Gibson logo in the headstock? 😂 So they want to pretend that they are cool guys because they play with Gibson? Do they use wig as well? 😅 Same with fake Rolex and Nike sneakers.
good point
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Yes. There is lots of brands that makes Gibson style guitars, like Tokai etc.
...more chibson rubbish. Mr Barlow scraping the bottom of the YTube guitar review barrel again I see --lol.
Yes, white is definitely not my choice of guitar colour either. It might as well be hot pink. The only exception, perhaps, being some mid 70's Strat in aged yellow lacquer olympic white
Again????
@@DaveBarlowGuitar I was thinking the same
Forgive them god for they do not know what they do.
What if they started an actual company called “Chibson” 🤫😅
Maybe Gibson should not be charging $8000 for a Black Beauty. And don’t get me wrong, I’m 100% capitalist, and I believe in buying American, but there’s only so much ass pounding I’m willing to endure before my patriotism yields to common sense.
setup from shop just always nonsense talk cant do that stop there
Personally id feel like a massive wanker walking around with a fake Gibson
Its like people that buy and wear fake Rolex watches - literally the definition of a poseur
That's my point. Especially when you can buy an affordable guitar with similar shapes. Makes no sense
Needs to be destroyed ,,,,,its a copy not a gibson ,i dont care how good you say it is...
CHIBSON. MARMITE OF THE GUITAR WORLD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, I'm trying one out, awaiting delivery