I bought a Chibson back in 2015 out of curiosity. I own several real Les Paul’s. I did the typical upgrades, changed the tuners, bridge, tail piece, put Seymour Duncan pick ups in it. The pick ups that came in it said Epiphone on them. Couple of frets needed filing and crowning. The thing plays awesome. I had it in storage for several years. Pulled it out and it was still in tune! I love it.
I got a Chibson Greeny this past year & also bought the $1500 Epiphone Greeny, & honestly, I like my $239 Chibson better. It’s reliced pretty heavy, but does not have any check marks. The finish is also nitro. The neck & back/sides are more red, & it has very well done fret nibs. Like yours, the routing & the binding is super neat & clean. The color of the binding is very close to real Gibson binding, having that slight pinkish/orangish hue in the cream. The neck is super thin, unlike my Epiphone Greeny. It’s fairly light, maybe 7 lbs, compared to the heavy 9-10 lbs Epiphone Greeny. I changed the tuners, pickups, caps, pots & knobs. I added knob pointers & a real Gibson trussrod cover. The nut, switch, bridge, tailpiece & jack were fine, so I left them. It needed really no fretwork. Now it smokes, is a serious player, & is my go to. My Epiphone Greeny hangs on my wall lol
The reason why Greeny sounded the way it did is because he had it repaired back in the day and instead of wiring it parallel like Gibson does,he wired it (by mistake) series.
It was still in parallel, the magnet in one pu was flipped making them electrically out of phase. It had nothing to do with the pu being turned around. That will sound slightly different but does not put them out of phase. With the old braided wire to put them in series requires extensive re wiring and the braided shield on one pu has to be used as the "hot" wire.
@@bradt.3555 Hilarious that you guys are doing this deep-dive shit on the back of the review of a guitar built by some random Chinese guys in a factory earning about 40p a day. It sounds great & it would cost you about 250 quid. The guys who made it smoke fags made from sweepings-up & sleep on thin mattresses on the floor. And eat boiled rice 3 times a day. With a bit of chicken or fish if they're lucky. And work 16 hour days. 7 days a week. Park the Peter Green nerd shit, FFS...
Hey Dave, How much did it weigh? Did it have a maple cap? Is the gibson logo a decal? Did it play out of phase in the middle position? Is it really a nitro finish?
The pick ups in the Chibsons sound exactly like the original PAF’s that people are now spending hundreds of pounds on for boutique replicas. Microphonic right, that’s the PAF sound! Nice guitar and video Dave🤘
Microphonics are not the only characteristic original PAFs had. They also sounded nothing like modern humbuckers. A "period" Les Paul would essentially sound like a beefier Telecaster and many tele players like Jimmy Page started using them maybe for that reason.
I just received my Chibson Black beauty les paul and I got the same set up really good and feels great fret ends perfect action excellent. I also think I'm going to go with Iron Gear pick ups hung up between Blues engine and Dirty torques. what do you think about dirty torque for bridge and blues engine for neck ?
sweet guitar brother! i have a chibson "jimmy page number one" clone which i turned it into a "newer greeny" model with vanson 59 spec chrome humbuckers... did the outta phase mod and its a sweet one!
Just noticing the bridge sits really high, neck angle seems too high. Turning the neck position doesn’t change the sound, it is the wiring that gives the out of phase sound in the middle position.
Hey, how has this guitar held up since the video? Have you noticed anything else whilst playing it since? Just ordered a couple from them. A LP and an SG. For the price its worth the risk, and if they play decently it'll be a fun modding project 😊
I'd be interested in buying one of these....to be honest I'd be happy if is didn't say Gibson but I like the idea of picking up a fairly reasonable copy at a good price. The Epiphone Greenie is getting into Gibson prices. As always, I'm hesitant because of the weight issue of Les Pauls ....some are absolute boat anchors and no fun to play standing up.
I spotted a LP style guitar on amazon & it was their very last one so, I past on it. The next morning I woke up, turned on the TV & saw the very same video which drew me to that maker, Bullfighter guitars on amazon. I did not find the guitar I was looking for but the Lp styled guitar caught my attention so, the next morning when it was still available, I immediately purchased it & Man am I GLAD I DID! 1 knock against it- it does not have the thumb wheels & it has metal tuners rather then the tuners on a real deal Lp but hey, I can easily upgrade em if ever needed. I've noticed the name Bullstar Bullfighter sb series lp stle sunburst ms-lp (red). After the cost of the guitar & tax & s/h it came to a whopping $150.00. & I am very pleased with this Bullfighter sb series lp style guitar! Now I want their other models!!!
I am a little concerned about the Logo from memory I have heard that UK Customs seize them as counterfeit goods State side never any problems maybe some of your people could advise .Thanks and keep up the good work.
I am tempted to buy one of those and replace the headstock logo with a "Chibson" one. That will assist in people making sure I'm not playing a real Gibson and that no Gibson lawyers come after me for supposed trademark infringement issues.
😂🤣😂 you really think Gibson will come after YOU??!! Gibson is making bank on people buying after market pups, tuners etc. I don't think they're worried about you and your chibby
I got my Greeny the other day. £311. Was gutted to find it had a dead fret on 15 and the tiny pots. Any recommendations as to what to replace the pots with?
There is nothing wrong with the smaller pots, they are used in many high end guitars as well. I used to swap them out but now I dont bother as cant hear the difference, however it is worth checking the solder joints. as for the fret, it can be fixed :)
nice greeney copy, only thing that gives it away at first glance is the pickup rings,they look epiphone sized and not gibson sized with the screw hole alighnment. i guess i have been unlucky with my order, claims delivered but obviously ended up at wrong address....jason kindly agreed to send a replacement. sent several emails to see what is happening, but nothing. so far i have parted with my money but recieved no guitar from bad cat. the lack of communication is shocking. and worrying. have a sub though dude
Hi Dave. Just watching this video. Now subscribed. Heard the plane, are you down by Gatwick? If so, I’m thinking of ordering one of these. You could look at it.. Thanks. Chris.
Great video. Just to say that just turning the pickup round doesnt give the greeny out of phase sound. Greeny had its magnet put in upside down. Just incase anyone tries to turn the round and are disapointed
Hi Dave. Turning the pick-up round doesn’t achieve the out of phase sound. Peter, famously, had the (failed) neck pickup rewound at Sound City, or somewhere, in the ‘60s. The ‘tech’(?) wound it ‘the wrong way’ - the fact he put it back upside down, was incidental. So, to get the ‘out of phase’ sound the pick-up must be MADE reversed… even Vintage - I owned one momentarily - manage to do that, Trev Wilkinson’s Asian people wound, or wind, the neck pickups for them specially.
He flipped the screwed coil on the neck pickup over to give it the out of phase sound, but that was post Fleetwood Mac. (Although he and John were still running mates). They had just come from seeing Johnny Winter and Rick Derringer at the warehouse in New Orleans.
Im refretting a 80s takamine gx 200t. Its my first refret, ive been wondering since the fretboard fret ends are filled should i just saw through them and fill them later or try to keep the old fillings? Im gonna nib the fret tang at the ends anyways few of the fillings just came off when i removed the old frets. Its a rosewood fretboard with laquer finish on the sides.
I've just ordered a new strat neck from China and it still hasn't arrived yet and I ordered it about a month ago. Kirk the jerk needs to give greeny to RARHOF.
Do you know where can I buy this guitar? I have watched hundreds of videos on this guitar and I am yet to find any imformation on how I am to purchase this model if you could help me out that would be amazing thank you
Great Dave!!! amazing! I like your being sincere! I like chibsons...but hey....every time they require extra money :-) thanks for the video! And yes....I want one now!!! :-) Just waiting from them the black beauty! I am crossing my fingers it will be as beautiful and perfect like this one!!
I've had two Gibson Les Pauls over the years, and got rid of them both because they never stay in tune, and the pain quality wasn't all their. However I own about six chibsons, and I hate to say that the quality in some cases is better than the actual Gibsons I had. That is sad! I paid $2,800 for one of those Les Paul's and the quality was mediocre
I have Gotoh locking tuners on my 335 and it cured the staying in tune problem. Every Gibson I've ever owned have an intonation problem, fourth string 7th fret. You just have to play through it. After a while, your muscle memory adjusts for it automatically. Tone and pitch come from the player. Stevie Ray plugged into Robert Wares Accoustic base amp at an Oak Cliff reunion and sounded exactly the same as he did through his own Black Face Super Reverb. You boutique folks need to worry more about what you bring than the dead-wood and wire you covet so much. I borrowed Dead-Wood and Wire from my friend Buddy Whittington.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar I've tried doing the rod the other way as I know it's a dual action rod, but tightened (counter clockwise) as much as it will go, it only goes into flat at best, I believe it's because they didn't fit nickel frets with nibs like was promised, they swapped them for chunky stainless steel ball ended, I reckon the frets have forced the neck into back bend, if you get what I'm going on about
There's a lot of hate out there for these guitars but just take them for what they are. Affordable, playable, aesthetically pleasing, whichever category is important to you. I know the logo thing is "contentious" but that seems to be a problem mainly for our American counterparts who all seem to have bought one (for investigative reasons, obviously 😊). I'm not sure that Gibson is going to lose many sales due to the existence of these instruments, not really the same customer base I'd have thought. Equally unsure if China is going to lose any sleep over any copyright infringement concerns, probably not high on their list of global concerns at the moment. Just my thoughts and opinions, feel free to disagree.
If Gibson had any ethics, they'd sell you a guitar that would tune properly and stay in tune. Not impressed with their workmanship at all. Go to Memphis and play some of the LP's they have on display, they all suck.
@@phillipward8776 Well I guess they could change the headstock shape so it would stay in tune but it's not gonna look like a LP. I have a 2007 R8 n it stay's in tune as good as any of my guitars with that headstock design. If ya want it to stay in tune get a PRS, that's what I did. My R8 is nice but doesn't hold a candle to the PRS, in tuning stability. The build quality of my R8 is great. But Gibson's ethics has nothing to do with say my ethics. I wouldn't justify my being un-ethical because Gibson is, would you? By the way I don't have an issue with LP style guitars that don't steal another's trademark.
@@whyis45stillalive I’ve seen a lot of Kirk live fails since he switched guitar. He used to play strictly ESPs and now he has a heavy brick of a Les Paul to deal with, that also probably has a thick ol’ neck. I don’t understand why he even went this route, would have made more sense if he bought the Frankenstrat.
I'd rather buy a Chibson than a genuine Gibson because the build quality is so inconsistent/poor, it not longer matters who makes them. Yes, it's illegal and shady, but if Gibson actually made premium guitars that matched the price they are charging, it wouldn't be so much of an problem. Which other manufacturers guitars can be sucessfully copied on the same level of Gibson? I've owned about 15 different SG style guitars over the years including Gibson, Epiphone, Tokai, Vintage, ESP LTD and Burny. I still own all of them apart from the Gibsons.
Screws for pu rings are way diff than what Gibson uses. Listen to the switch and look at it you can tell it's the wrong kind, bridge wrong pu rings wrong shape n color and most of all your buying stolen property. Why are so many ok with stealing?
@@DaveBarlowGuitar hI, i DID WATCH THE VIDEO AND i HAVE 3 CHINESE GUITARS AND HAD TO DO A LOT OF FRET WORK ON THEM. i'M SHURE THE GUITAR YOU GOT WAS PERFECT, BUT i THINK THEY DID EXTRA WORK ON THE SETUP BECAUSE YOU WHERE GOING TO REVIEW IT. i LOOKED AT THE FRET ENDS AND YOU CAN SEE THEY DID A LOT OF HAND FILING ..... I ENJOY YOUR SHOW
I have bought a couple fenders they play good better than most of the American stuff until I got into my real custom shops. The tuners were cheap on the haggard copy but 50 dollars fixed that
Why are showing us the headstock it's not a " Gibson " it's a FAKE , FRAUD. If you want a good Chinese guitar buy a Eastman , to many Fakes being sold as the real thing .They are crap if you know anything about guitars .
I have this same guitar and after a fret level and polish it stands proudly next to my Gibson standard at 10% the cost. So yes there is a couple hours of luthier work involved so you can add another $100 to the price and you're still way under the cost of an authentic Gibson.
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I bought a Chibson back in 2015 out of curiosity. I own several real Les Paul’s. I did the typical upgrades, changed the tuners, bridge, tail piece, put Seymour Duncan pick ups in it. The pick ups that came in it said Epiphone on them. Couple of frets needed filing and crowning. The thing plays awesome. I had it in storage for several years. Pulled it out and it was still in tune! I love it.
I got a Chibson Greeny this past year & also bought the $1500 Epiphone Greeny, & honestly, I like my $239 Chibson better. It’s reliced pretty heavy, but does not have any check marks. The finish is also nitro. The neck & back/sides are more red, & it has very well done fret nibs. Like yours, the routing & the binding is super neat & clean. The color of the binding is very close to real Gibson binding, having that slight pinkish/orangish hue in the cream. The neck is super thin, unlike my Epiphone Greeny. It’s fairly light, maybe 7 lbs, compared to the heavy 9-10 lbs Epiphone Greeny. I changed the tuners, pickups, caps, pots & knobs. I added knob pointers & a real Gibson trussrod cover. The nut, switch, bridge, tailpiece & jack were fine, so I left them. It needed really no fretwork. Now it smokes, is a serious player, & is my go to. My Epiphone Greeny hangs on my wall lol
The reason why Greeny sounded the way it did is because he had it repaired back in the day and instead of wiring it parallel like Gibson does,he wired it (by mistake) series.
It was still in parallel, the magnet in one pu was flipped making them electrically out of phase. It had nothing to do with the pu being turned around. That will sound slightly different but does not put them out of phase. With the old braided wire to put them in series requires extensive re wiring and the braided shield on one pu has to be used as the "hot" wire.
@@bradt.3555 Hilarious that you guys are doing this deep-dive shit on the back of the review of a guitar built by some random Chinese guys in a factory earning about 40p a day.
It sounds great & it would cost you about 250 quid.
The guys who made it smoke fags made from sweepings-up & sleep on thin mattresses on the floor. And eat boiled rice 3 times a day. With a bit of chicken or fish if they're lucky.
And work 16 hour days.
7 days a week.
Park the Peter Green nerd shit, FFS...
I have this same model and gave it a nice overhaul. It's definitely one of my favorites.
Good to hear!
Hey Dave, How much did it weigh? Did it have a maple cap? Is the gibson logo a decal? Did it play out of phase in the middle position? Is it really a nitro finish?
The pick ups in the Chibsons sound exactly like the original PAF’s that people are now spending hundreds of pounds on for boutique replicas.
Microphonic right, that’s the PAF sound!
Nice guitar and video Dave🤘
you might have a point, they did sound great, however modern players generally prefer potted pups.
Microphonics are not the only characteristic original PAFs had. They also sounded nothing like modern humbuckers. A "period" Les Paul would essentially sound like a beefier Telecaster and many tele players like Jimmy Page started using them maybe for that reason.
From one cockney to another, great review, that's an awesome guitar for the money
The reason why you guys are called cocknies is because you cock everything up. 😅 😂
I just received my Chibson Black beauty les paul and I got the same set up really good and feels great fret ends perfect action excellent. I also think I'm going to go with Iron Gear pick ups hung up between Blues engine and Dirty torques. what do you think about dirty torque for bridge and blues engine for neck ?
i see so many chinese sellers and similar models. can you share who you got yours from?
sweet guitar brother!
i have a chibson "jimmy page number one" clone which i turned it into a "newer greeny" model with vanson 59 spec chrome humbuckers...
did the outta phase mod and its a sweet one!
Interested in those pups you swapped
@@zoocru67 the ones that came from the chibby?
The old growth wood is gone but what I can tell you is, my Custom Shop 58 spec reissue weighs 8lb 9oz, so reasonably light.
Just noticing the bridge sits really high, neck angle seems too high. Turning the neck position doesn’t change the sound, it is the wiring that gives the out of phase sound in the middle position.
I just ordered my 4th Polaris guitar. You can get them with upgraded electronics now.
Hey, how has this guitar held up since the video? Have you noticed anything else whilst playing it since?
Just ordered a couple from them. A LP and an SG.
For the price its worth the risk, and if they play decently it'll be a fun modding project 😊
No, all good, happy with it.
I'd be interested in buying one of these....to be honest I'd be happy if is didn't say Gibson but I like the idea of picking up a fairly reasonable copy at a good price. The Epiphone Greenie is getting into Gibson prices. As always, I'm hesitant because of the weight issue of Les Pauls ....some are absolute boat anchors and no fun to play standing up.
I spotted a LP style guitar on amazon & it was their very last one so, I past on it. The next morning I woke up, turned on the TV & saw the very same video which drew me to that maker, Bullfighter guitars on amazon. I did not find the guitar I was looking for but the Lp styled guitar caught my attention so, the next morning when it was still available, I immediately purchased it & Man am I GLAD I DID! 1 knock against it- it does not have the thumb wheels & it has metal tuners rather then the tuners on a real deal Lp but hey, I can easily upgrade em if ever needed. I've noticed the name Bullstar Bullfighter sb series lp stle sunburst ms-lp (red). After the cost of the guitar & tax & s/h it came to a whopping $150.00. & I am very pleased with this Bullfighter sb series lp style guitar! Now I want their other models!!!
I'd love to buy one just to see if the one I get is as good as yours...
I have a customer bringing one in soon so will take a look to see if its as good :)
@@DaveBarlowGuitardid you see your customers one yet?
I just ordered on the back of this video. Great review!
@@collierpj not yet, but he has just dropped off another LP and a V, I am building a new workshop at the moment so everything is on hold.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Ah cool cool, well I'll let you know how mine is once it arrives.
@FretFriendGWaL Victor, I have one coming. Should be here next Tuesday.
I am a little concerned about the Logo from memory I have heard that UK Customs seize them as counterfeit goods State side never any problems maybe some of your people could advise .Thanks and keep up the good work.
Not that I know of
I’ve heard of this. Reloved Guitars mentioned it in a video.
Peter Frampton's guitar is very light. Just over 8 lbs. This due to no maple cap and Honduran Mahogany.
And because that guitar was on fire at some point. And went through the Nashville Flood too.
I am tempted to buy one of those and replace the headstock logo with a "Chibson" one. That will assist in people making sure I'm not playing a real Gibson and that no Gibson lawyers come after me for supposed trademark infringement issues.
😂🤣😂 you really think Gibson will come after YOU??!! Gibson is making bank on people buying after market pups, tuners etc. I don't think they're worried about you and your chibby
I got my Greeny the other day. £311.
Was gutted to find it had a dead fret on 15 and the tiny pots.
Any recommendations as to what to replace the pots with?
There is nothing wrong with the smaller pots, they are used in many high end guitars as well. I used to swap them out but now I dont bother as cant hear the difference, however it is worth checking the solder joints. as for the fret, it can be fixed :)
nice greeney copy, only thing that gives it away at first glance is the pickup rings,they look epiphone sized and not gibson sized with the screw hole alighnment.
i guess i have been unlucky with my order, claims delivered but obviously ended up at wrong address....jason kindly agreed to send a replacement.
sent several emails to see what is happening, but nothing.
so far i have parted with my money but recieved no guitar from bad cat.
the lack of communication is shocking.
and worrying.
have a sub though dude
send me your details, I will forward to him
@@DaveBarlowGuitar thankyou Dave, thats very kind, i sent you a email 👍
Hi Dave. Just watching this video. Now subscribed.
Heard the plane, are you down by Gatwick? If so, I’m thinking of ordering one of these. You could look at it..
Thanks. Chris.
I do have a Chibson AFD Slash.
No, I'm in Surbiton, they changed the flight path a few years ago, most annoying
Great video. Just to say that just turning the pickup round doesnt give the greeny out of phase sound. Greeny had its magnet put in upside down. Just incase anyone tries to turn the round and are disapointed
So, if it doesn't have a maple cap, is that a thin maple veneer? It looks good. I'd prefer the guitar without the relic job though.
You can order the non relic version
Greetings from east Texas, sounds good Dave
Thanks for listening
Are these from what is now the badcat discord?
yes
Hi Dave. Turning the pick-up round doesn’t achieve the out of phase sound. Peter, famously, had the (failed) neck pickup rewound at Sound City, or somewhere, in the ‘60s. The ‘tech’(?) wound it ‘the wrong way’ - the fact he put it back upside down, was incidental.
So, to get the ‘out of phase’ sound the pick-up must be MADE reversed… even Vintage - I owned one momentarily - manage to do that, Trev Wilkinson’s Asian people wound, or wind, the neck pickups for them specially.
you can just reverse the hook up wire :)
He flipped the screwed coil on the neck pickup over to give it the out of phase sound, but that was post Fleetwood Mac. (Although he and John were still running mates). They had just come from seeing Johnny Winter and Rick Derringer at the warehouse in New Orleans.
Is polaris4music still around if so how do you contact them?
details in description
When Peter owned it, he never kept it in a case. He would wrap it in his clothes in the car trunk. The knobs on this and his Strat took a beating.
Im refretting a 80s takamine gx 200t. Its my first refret, ive been wondering since the fretboard fret ends are filled should i just saw through them and fill them later or try to keep the old fillings? Im gonna nib the fret tang at the ends anyways few of the fillings just came off when i removed the old frets. Its a rosewood fretboard with laquer finish on the sides.
I've just ordered a new strat neck from China and it still hasn't arrived yet and I ordered it about a month ago.
Kirk the jerk needs to give greeny to RARHOF.
The headstock looks correct. The aging on the headstock is wrong
Do you know where can I buy this guitar? I have watched hundreds of videos on this guitar and I am yet to find any imformation on how I am to purchase this model if you could help me out that would be amazing thank you
in the description
@@DaveBarlowGuitar I have clicked the link and searched for it on google but I still can not find it
@@DaveBarlowGuitar it says I need a password to access the post on the forum page
@@kolbr there is a link in the description, checked and it works
Damn it, now I really want one…
Hi, if I want to get this guitar and upgrade the pickup to Irongear, what can you suggest to have this Greeny tone?
Tough one, but I have gone with Blues Engines, its not bang on the money but I can get very near by rolling back the tone just a smidge.
Damn this guitar sounds pretty close to Gary Moore Gibson. nice
At around 11:10 I thought that was microphonic pickup at first lol ✈️
Damn, I think I'm going to have to buy one of these from Mr Polaris.....
Greetings from southeast Texas,that is a good one!!im gonna order one
Im looking at one of these on ebay with nibbed frets for 300$
Dave with the hot take on Greenie! 😂
Played it at rehearsal then gigged it, its defo a keeper.
These china guitars are gettin better an better an better.
Damn man ahaha. These Chibson are starting to get disgustingly good! AHAH. I am all for it. GIbson, shame on you!
Can you send the exact link to order one of these?
send an email, say I sent u: badcatinstruments@gmail.com
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Thanks! MUCH appreciated. 🙂
Great Dave!!! amazing! I like your being sincere! I like chibsons...but hey....every time they require extra money :-) thanks for the video! And yes....I want one now!!! :-) Just waiting from them the black beauty! I am crossing my fingers it will be as beautiful and perfect like this one!!
Greeny is one of the most iconic guitars! And to scratch your initials into the back of it is bloody disrespectful to Gary Moore .
Is this Polaris also?
yes
I presume Polaris ship to the UK…
yes
I've had two Gibson Les Pauls over the years, and got rid of them both because they never stay in tune, and the pain quality wasn't all their. However I own about six chibsons, and I hate to say that the quality in some cases is better than the actual Gibsons I had. That is sad! I paid $2,800 for one of those Les Paul's and the quality was mediocre
I have Gotoh locking tuners on my 335 and it cured the staying in tune problem. Every Gibson I've ever owned have an intonation problem, fourth string 7th fret. You just have to play through it. After a while, your muscle memory adjusts for it automatically. Tone and pitch come from the player. Stevie Ray plugged into Robert Wares Accoustic base amp at an Oak Cliff reunion and sounded exactly the same as he did through his own Black Face Super Reverb. You boutique folks need to worry more about what you bring than the dead-wood and wire you covet so much. I borrowed Dead-Wood and Wire from my friend Buddy Whittington.
I'm 6 guitars in from P4m, number 7 on the way, all of them have been stellar!!!👍
That's good to hear :)
I recently got one from them that's far from good 😢
@@yid8ter whats wrong with it?
@@DaveBarlowGuitar back bend in the neck, so no relief on fretboard even with truss rod slack
@@DaveBarlowGuitar I've tried doing the rod the other way as I know it's a dual action rod, but tightened (counter clockwise) as much as it will go, it only goes into flat at best, I believe it's because they didn't fit nickel frets with nibs like was promised, they swapped them for chunky stainless steel ball ended, I reckon the frets have forced the neck into back bend, if you get what I'm going on about
There's a lot of hate out there for these guitars but just take them for what they are. Affordable, playable, aesthetically pleasing, whichever category is important to you. I know the logo thing is "contentious" but that seems to be a problem mainly for our American counterparts who all seem to have bought one (for investigative reasons, obviously 😊).
I'm not sure that Gibson is going to lose many sales due to the existence of these instruments, not really the same customer base I'd have thought.
Equally unsure if China is going to lose any sleep over any copyright infringement concerns, probably not high on their list of global concerns at the moment.
Just my thoughts and opinions, feel free to disagree.
how much does it weigh?
just over 8lbs
@@DaveBarlowGuitar That's great for a Les Paul.
It’s nitro?!!!???!
in the description
Sorry but Gibson on the headstock thats wrong.
yeah sorry but thats what they sent me
The crap Gibson makes these days is wrong to have Gibson on the headstock too.
Cry about it
Do yourselves a huge favor and buy the real deals Epiphone or Gibson..
Metallica didn't kill Rock and roll, they just helped it evolve. The same old same has never been what Rock is about and hopefully never will.
I refuse to even work on them, sorry I admit to being old fashioned, I believe in ethics.
fair enough, I also refuse to work on Mesa Boogies now :)
If Gibson had any ethics, they'd sell you a guitar that would tune properly and stay in tune. Not impressed with their workmanship at all. Go to Memphis and play some of the LP's they have on display, they all suck.
@@phillipward8776 Well I guess they could change the headstock shape so it would stay in tune but it's not gonna look like a LP. I have a 2007 R8 n it stay's in tune as good as any of my guitars with that headstock design. If ya want it to stay in tune get a PRS, that's what I did. My R8 is nice but doesn't hold a candle to the PRS, in tuning stability. The build quality of my R8 is great. But Gibson's ethics has nothing to do with say my ethics. I wouldn't justify my being un-ethical because Gibson is, would you? By the way I don't have an issue with LP style guitars that don't steal another's trademark.
It's pickups aren't out of phase😂
7.30min hehe
It’s disgusting that, the guitarist from the band that killed Rock ‘N Roll owns Greeny.
If the band you're referring to is Metallica, I completely agree with you !
The funniest part is that somehow since he started playing that guitar, his playing has been awful
@@destroso
Has it? I haven’t heard anything by them since black.
@@whyis45stillalive I’ve seen a lot of Kirk live fails since he switched guitar. He used to play strictly ESPs and now he has a heavy brick of a Les Paul to deal with, that also probably has a thick ol’ neck. I don’t understand why he even went this route, would have made more sense if he bought the Frankenstrat.
@@destroso
It’s about the history of Greeny. It’s a 60 y.o. musical history. A Blues history. Not a metal, history.
I'd rather buy a Chibson than a genuine Gibson because the build quality is so inconsistent/poor, it not longer matters who makes them. Yes, it's illegal and shady, but if Gibson actually made premium guitars that matched the price they are charging, it wouldn't be so much of an problem. Which other manufacturers guitars can be sucessfully copied on the same level of Gibson? I've owned about 15 different SG style guitars over the years including Gibson, Epiphone, Tokai, Vintage, ESP LTD and Burny. I still own all of them apart from the Gibsons.
lots of people are saying this
Screws for pu rings are way diff than what Gibson uses. Listen to the switch and look at it you can tell it's the wrong kind, bridge wrong pu rings wrong shape n color and most of all your buying stolen property. Why are so many ok with stealing?
I have advised them :)
the finish checking looks fake. I have no doubt that guitar is a ringer. the chinese never do a good job dressing their fret ends.
Did you watch the video? I played it and the frets are perfect dude.
@@DaveBarlowGuitar hI, i DID WATCH THE VIDEO AND i HAVE 3 CHINESE GUITARS AND HAD TO DO A LOT OF FRET WORK ON THEM. i'M SHURE THE GUITAR YOU GOT WAS PERFECT, BUT i THINK THEY DID EXTRA WORK ON THE SETUP BECAUSE YOU WHERE GOING TO REVIEW IT. i LOOKED AT THE FRET ENDS AND YOU CAN SEE THEY DID A LOT OF HAND FILING ..... I ENJOY YOUR SHOW
@@louiscesare504 WHY ALL THE CAPS? Makes you look like a douchebag.
I just got an Ace Frehely blue sparkle Chibson last week. The frets are perfect. They used ball end frets. It also has large pots in it.
I have bought a couple fenders they play good better than most of the American stuff until I got into my real custom shops. The tuners were cheap on the haggard copy but 50 dollars fixed that
Nothing against Chibson but that sounds terrible
Why are showing us the headstock it's not a " Gibson " it's a FAKE , FRAUD. If you want a good Chinese guitar buy a Eastman , to many Fakes being sold as the real thing .They are crap if you know anything about guitars .
Lmao, nice observation captain obvious
Eastman is making excellent guitars, with unbeatable build quality, however, they are not cheap.
@@ReyCarmesi666no I want the real deals buddy Epiphone or Gibson oh wait I do have them both..
Guy buys a Chibson, and acts all gate-keepy about who should or shouldn't own the real thing.🤣🤣🤣
pure garbage
fair enough
Cry about it
Yes I agree , USA Gibson's ARE pure garbage 👍
Never played one have you
I have this same guitar and after a fret level and polish it stands proudly next to my Gibson standard at 10% the cost. So yes there is a couple hours of luthier work involved so you can add another $100 to the price and you're still way under the cost of an authentic Gibson.