Insta360 EVO vs. Vuze XR vs. Qoocam: BEST 3D180/360 Camera?
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If you have a headset of any kind, I’d strongly recommend you use it for this video. The 3D will blow your mind 🤯
The VR180 videos I've been seeing with these recent new stereo cameras have some strange artifacts, most notably wobbly straight lines and exaggerated or artificial depth in patterned surfaces like gras or carpets. Just look down at the beginning of the video and at the front edge of the table. The non-straight lines are present throughout all the samples. I would consider this to be a defect of all this cameras as it severely degrades the quality but this hasn't been mentioned in the reviews I've seen (including this one).
Maybe you can start reviewing headsets as well? ;)
... it’s YT‘s processing I guess. Got an XR and a GO, didn’t notice such artifacts in my footage so far. Ben, can you confirm?
@@o0AnotherweaseL0o at least I experienced similar with Street View in GMaps regarding 360 ... they do a comparable lousy job in reproducing VR from the equirectangular. My guess it's the same here from the 180, not from the 3D. Just my thoughts, let's hear it from Ben 😊
This is due to TH-cam’s compression.. nothing to do with the cameras. Watch this same video on VeeR (link in description) and you’ll see straight lines behave the way they should.
So now my question is, since the EVO has been discontinued, what is the best 3D camera today?
In my opinion, still EVO
@@saberhyw1284 understand, but since I can't buy one of those, which is the best one that can be purchased.
Maybe FM·DUO is the best in 2022, but if you want mini 3D camera, still EVO
Thank you! Very helpful!
Thanks for this awesome review. I have been looking for a good camera to produce some vr180 content and your video was very helpful. I just bought the insta360 evo with your link and also received the invisible selfie stick for free :)
Awesome- you’re gonna love it!
Very Helpful, thanks.
I wish the camera manufacturers would do this. allowing consumers to have a sample of what sort of image their product puts out is really helpful when trying to decide which product to buy.
Thank you for your video. Appreciate your work!
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tks!
Great video Ben! Re qoocam black frame it is for stabilization
Thanks Mic! Yeah I thought so, however the EVO seems to do just fine without it, and it even appears in photos and videos that don’t need it. Just the option to turn it off is all they need to add 👌🏻
Great video Ben, I've been looking for the perfect 360 camera to film my wedding and hadn't heard of the Insta360 Evo, only the Insta360 ONE R following your video I know to buy the Evo, thanks dude
Really enjoyed this informative comparison on my Oculus GO headset. Really stoked about 180 3D and your videos help a lot. Keep up the great work and producing these 3D videos and tips.
Thanks Michael, glad you watched it on the Go!
Wow, pretty amazing when viewed in the Oculus Go, especially when you were sitting at your desk I felt like we were having a conversation in real time. Well done Ben!
Thanks David- yeah it feels like you’re actually there! Which is especially weird when you’re watching yourself 🤣
@@BenClaremont I was shocked that the image had as much depth to it. I'm still blown away.
Great video Ben! I watched it with my little BoboVR headset, I like the effect very much!
Awesome buddy glad to hear it!
Thanks @Ben, for the Benchmark review.
Lot to take under consideration.
Thanks Charles 👍
I would add to this comparison more recently Pilot Era. He by the way supports 8K
Edward Daniel I wouldn’t because it’s not a 3D 360 camera for consumers.. which is the point of this comparison
It looks like the insta 360 Evo is what I`m looking for. Thanks a lot for doing a comparison. You are awesome !
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Thanks for this! Bonus learning point - watch the point of view distance. Way too close for comfort on the Quest. In the coffee section my virtual chin was on the table about 2 inches from the saucer. And the table had a lot of crumbs lol
Great comparison vid Ben. Watched on my phone first then on my oculus go and was pleasantly surprised. Have tried watching vr 180 videos and found they hurt my eyes, especially when action approached too close to the camera, or when item were in the periphery of one lens but not the other, but your vid seemed to get things just about right. Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks David! Yeah when it’s not too chaotic I think 3D 180 can be extremely powerful.. almost like you’re standing there in the video 👌🏻
That was fun looking at all your gear on the right. In your studio, the vuze looked the best, but most of the other shots the depth was too strong in my Daydream headset. I agree that the Evo was the best overall to watch.
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Great video, very immersive.
Thanks!
Really cool. Man I think I'll have to take a few more of those stills, they were really enjoyable. Planning on doing a lot of 360 shots at my next shooting match. I've noticed the mobile app has better options for tracking shots, but does not stitch anywhere near as well as the desktop app.
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Thanks for the great vid!
I just watched it on Oculus Quest.
Did you look at your rug inVR? 😋
Awesome. Good review!!!
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best review of these 180s so far. Ill be getting the insta360 evo. I like the vuze xr for the colour but the Evo has it every where else.
Thanks Lee- good choice! Follow the link in the description for a free selfie stick 👍
I have been playing around with the Qoocam this winter. I have alot of fun with it and I appreciate the long battery life. I look forward to the next generation of 180 3D. Hopefully more ability to mess around with depth mapping. Now that Headsets and powerful PCs are becoming more mainstream I can see 3D 180/360 really becoming popular. Thanks for the review! Oh btw, I noticed on your Instagram that you were having problems getting the video to work on TH-cam. I find it takes about 20 minutes or so before it works properly in 180 3D VR after uploading. Cheers!
Thanks- yeah figured that out eventually haha. And yeah 180 cams are gonna get crazy good!
Watched it with a headset - thanks for posting can’t wait to see what will become of this technology
Thanks Clara- yes looks awesome in a headset!
Thank you like the square one that opens out but my eye is still not perfect
Thanks Bene
Ben, good job.
I got the EVO two days ago and the first positiv thing I discovered was HDR, just like you!
I have the QooCam too and I was happy with it until now.
Let's see what the future holds.
Hi Peter, great! Yes HDR is awesome. Enjoy my friend
i know this is old but it would be great if u uploaded portions of the video tests for those with slow connection speeds. I'd love to download the vids and compare for myself with the quest!
Ben, your VR180 comparison video and EVO coverage is very well done, thank you. The higher res & HDR of the EVO (plus their app/case for viewing 3D with your phone and the ability to view directly in the Oculus GO via wifi) makes EVO the clear winner for now. BTW, Consider educating us on the plants in your garden in VR180 by putting each on the table and sharing your hobby with commentary. We’ll listen, honest.
Haha thanks Jeff, but I think it would be a very small portion of my audience that care about my tomatoes 😅
Besides the quality of the 3 camera's. This was an awesome way to review, really next-level review method! I've watched this video on my Oculus Go and it really felt like i was sitting there opposite of you, felt like a teacher was educating me. Still think there is a lot of room for improvement, when object are too close to the camera, things start to get blurry, as if you are looking cross-eyed. And distant lines become a bit curvy. It does really make me consider buying an EVO. Keep up the good work Ben!
Thanks Frank! Yes it does make you feel like you’re standing there in the video haha. Some of the curvy lines are caused by TH-cam compression- I also uploaded to VeeR (link in description) and everything looks as it should 👍
Good video :) Thank you very much !
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Thanks for the review, it helped me choose my next 3D camera. I’ve had Kandao Qoocam and I was really pleased with it, but as you said, the resolution wasn’t that great. The footage wasn’t really sharp, but 3D effect worked great. The inly problem with this cameras is, you need to film objects quite close in order to get the best results, which is not always possible. It would be great if we could get some kind of optical zoom for those lenses lol. But my next one is definitely gonna be Insta 360 Evo
Good luck!
I literally asked this question out loud and your notification just popped up. Legendary timing.
Great minds 🤓
I need to watch this again with a vr headset. Thanks for the stabilization test.
No worries
Man, that's why I'm your fan. Excellent comparative.
This video helped me decide on my purchase.
I really enjoyed the quality and ergonomics of the Vuze XR.
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I may have to save up the extra few quid to get an Evo rather than the One X. Thanks!
So awesome! This was my first 180 video in a vr headset 👍🎥😎. The depth is so cool 👍. I feel like I met you in person now lol 😂
Haha yeah it feels super lifelike.. glad you watched with the extra dimension!
Really amazing bro
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hi. this video is such informative for people who want to buy one of this camera... Can you please make such informative video comparison of GoPro Max and Insta360 One R twin edition? I can not still decide which one to buy. (As Qoocam 8K can only shoot 360 video and has no one lense mode I decided not to buy it.)
Will there be a newcomer to this space? Man I need one for my quest 2 vr
There is no way to buy the Evo anymore. What is the best alternative to buy at this moment? Thanks!
Which model is the best 360 camera in 2020 (video quality, easy file creation etc)? Thanks
Thanks for your reviews Ben, I did watch this one on an Oculus Go and liked the feeling of depth in the still images. The shots at the coffee place where a bit too close for my taste but impressive focus tho, do you recall the distance (sort of) you had from the cameras?
Thanks Angela, yeah the purpose of that scene was to test the depth! It’s exactly as close as it feels.. it gets as close as maybe 3 inches. I think the final coffee photo (HDR) with the EVO has it at the optimal distance 👍
Ben, great video. This was very helpful for me. I have a request. Now that you've added 3D to your topics covered on your channel, you've got to talk with Misha Photography in Bristol, UK. They have the most high resolution 3D 360 Panos that I've ever seen. The resolution is so good, its as if they've figured out how do 360 3D with a DSLR. The 360 community would greatly benefit from a video that features Misha Photography in action.
Nice- will have to look them up 👍
Is there any sort of updated video like this? This is 2 years old also are there new 180 cameras out there or coming out? I'd like to get one but I feel like all the options are like 2+ years old or just 360, I'd really prefer to have both options.
is it possible to airbrush out something on a 360 photo taken with insta 360 evo
Awesome reviews man, no one else really doing this like you and I've used your advice for purchasing cameras for my work. Unfortunately that was before this so I got the Qoocam, but it's still a great camera in it's own right, definitely a bit dissapointed with the resolution when looking in a headset though.
Thanks Nathan- with Qoocam at least you got to play with 3D before anyone else!
@@BenClaremont Yeah definitely. For a first foray for the school into 3D/360 content creation I think it's an excellent device, we can always upgrade down the line if need be and I am guessing in a year a camera will exist that will probably be significantly better for a similar price. Thanks again for all the detailed information!
This guy is switched on.
Good stuff.
He is
Thank you, Ben. Just bought Vuze XR today after watching this review. Love the design. And quality is outstanding. can't pick EVO as i can't stand the design. LOL. Hope they will release updated firmware soon. :)
Enjoy!
Well done Ben. Looks great on the GO! Pity the Vuze blows out the highlights cause the colours and sharpness are good. Looks like I’ll be saving for an EVO as my Qoocam’s 4K just doesn’t blow me away like the 5.7K does!
Nice! Yeah the Go really brings it to life.. glad you watched it there. Definitely worth the upgrade 👍
Why did they stop making these? I cant find any more recent models.
I think the QooCam looks better in stabilization when moving. Looks pretty good though even with lower resolution so should be a more affordable option then the other two.
You should have explained the windows studio application capabilities of each camera.
Thanks for posting it on Veer.tv too 👍 I couldn't find a way to watch it on TH-cam in 3D with my Windows Mixed Reality headset, but Veer works. And the differences are hugh, also for checking the sharpness. It looks completely different in a headset!
The Evo is clear the winner. No question, the photos and videos looks better than from the other two. Maybe the Vuze could reach the Evo it the exposure would be set to -0.5 or -1 . Seems to record everything brighter.
Thanks buddy, agreed!
Well that's settled then.. The evo it is. Gonna get this in time for summer fun times. Have they done many updates for it? I'll check your channel for videos I guess lol
Hi Ben. Wonder Vuze XR 360/3D video can be played in new samsung S20 as this phone's resolution is very high and it also supports 8K. Thanks.
I've had a cheap £5 pair of VR goggles sat in my cupboard for about 18 months now, doing nothing. well worth dusting them off for this! great results, thanks Ben!! loved the review too!
Awesome! I watched it back on my $5 headset too and it looked surprisingly decent 👍
Hey, I'm thinking to record a soccer game with a 180 Degree camera insta360 evo. Would this give me a flat 180 video of the field ? what do you recommend? thank you
Looking at the EVO per this review. But says they are out of stock. Any idea what the issue is there? Production stopped for any reason? Dare I ask if it's the Corona Virus shutting down the factories?
I want the evo with usb C and h.265 it is 2019 after all. Also, a 2.0 aperture lens would be nice. I've got the qoocam so I'm tempted to wait for the next iterations of 3d cameras that have everything on my shopping list.
Me too, although there still isn’t a camera that ticks every single box possible.. and there might not ever be. I guess you gotta decide what’s most important to you and choose the camera that has the most of those features 👍
This, but I also want it to embrace the smaller footprint in conjunction with flipout lenses like the vuze XR.
I watched this on my phone but I overall felt that EVO stands out the winner! Of course the stitching is going to an issue but the camera seems to perform amazingly! EVOlution of the cameras indeed!
Yes agreed!
can i put it on a drone and get fpv vr ?
Thanks for the video, I just got the Oculus Quest 2 and I would like a 3d / 180 '' camera to shoot some nice movies that can be viewed with this headset.
From this video it seems that the Insta360 Evo is the better, but I can't find it anywhere, has a later model been released in these 2 years?
So, it looks like the insta360 Evo is no longer available from the insta360 store. Any word on if it will be available again? Has it been discontinued?
Thank you for this great review. This is how a camera review should look like. One question Vuze XR has ever improved in its stabilization during walking? At the moment it is very complicated to find a VR 180 3D camera. Is there something coming out or available under 1000 Euros and minimum 5.7K.
Hey Ben just a suggestion - I don't think you calibrate this VR180 video so the horizon line is not straight. Maybe use your bubble leveler to keep the camera absolutely level or adjust it in POST in Premiere with Boris BBC VR unit.
Hi Hugh- the horizon looks pretty straight to me.. I kept the cameras dead level while shooting and I never noticed anything unlevel watching back on Oculus Go. I know you’re a perfectionist so sorry if it’s slightly unlevel to you haha
The Vuze tracks the horizon level. When you render the video you get 3 options none , stabilize and horizontal stabilize. Ben didn't stabilize in rendering the vuze walking video. You can hold the vuze at some off angke and later render it level.
Jurgman X Ben did stabilize, but for 180 it’s nowhere near the level of 360 stabilization, nor the other cameras in this comparison.
@@BenClaremont looks like my unstabilized video from the vuze xr. I'm about to return this camera for many other issues. Its so far just made a lot of what I found out to be blotchy, overcompressed video on TH-cam. Nothing close to what you uploaded.
Thanks for your comparison! The one thing I missed was your opinion about the audio differences: e.g. the Vuze XR has 4 mics for Ambisonics, whereas the Insta360 EVO only has 2. How much of an issue is this?
Sven Killig I think evo has poor audio quality, so need to use external audio recorder and syncing
The fact that you filmed it using the views XR, I already knew.....watching on Meta Quest 3 and the XR looks Great....some one needs to do these VS the iPhone 15 with the spatial video
Ben, can you also cover audio quality in the comparisons? Do any provide spatial audio for 180?
No they don’t.. audio quality is the same
The coffee cup was way too close to feel comfortable with it. :D
Watching on Oculus Go it looks crazy realistic
Too close
What do u think abt insta evo 5k vs qoocam 8k...does 5k of two lens in 180 degrees of evo better than 8k of 360 degree video of qoocam...i mean from perspective of looking at video with in vr headset which will look better?
Thanks for these great videos. Has the Vuze XR had any firmware updates yet? I really love the design but the blown out highlights are a deal breaker for me..
It has, but nothing groundbreaking unfortunately
I know I’m late to the party Ben but do you have a 180 3D video sample straight out of both cameras that I can download and play locally through my VR headset? I know it’s a big ask mate.
Hi Ben, very nice video. Is cool to view with a VR headset. What software / app did you use to edit the video for the end result?
Thanks- this was edited in adobe premiere 👍
Bought the Fujifilm 3D W3 when this one broke - much better.
Also was checking the Sony TD30 - quality is insane, but the price is pretty high!
Hi Ben. Great comparison. But don't you think that the Vuze XR image is little bit sharper than EVO's?
Thanks- I found overall they were pretty even, and with high dynamic range situations make the EVO look sharper due to better exposure 👍
All three cameras are no longer available. Strange, why not?
Do you think in future there will be anything else in this price segment?
Did you produce this in 4K / 2160p / 2160s? It's fairly blurry like that and I can't tell if that's why the Evo image looks so clunky.
Excellent comparison. Thanks! Is there a way to format the images into 16:9 aspect for viewing on a 3D TV?
Thanks- I don’t know what the workflow is for TVs but for showing on TH-cam you need the video to be 2:1 aspect ratio. See my video ‘how to shoot and edit 3D’ and let me know if you discover anything further about TVs 👍
This is the question I'm looking for an answer to too, looking for a decent non vr stereo camera for showing on 3d TV.
Ben@ 7:41 how do you edit on a 3d sign that says pro? Will this video be editable in final cut?
I have the oculus go headsets .. .how do i view this vid in 3D..i tired it on TH-cam through the headsets, i cant seem to see it 3D
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Great breakdown of the three cameras - with one-to-one image comparisons of each. Exactly what I've been looking for! So here's my take:
1) Yes - the manual features and HDR capabilities of the EVO are awesome, the stabilized video quality is not quite so impressive! Sure, it stabilizes - but sacrifices video quality in the process? Tons of pixelated artifacts which I assume is a result of the software stabilization?
2) While the image quality (unstabilized) on the EVO might be better than the Vuze XR - there is a noticeable strobing issue with moving objects on the EVO - most obvious when you move your hands around as you speak. The Vuze XR seems to produce more fluid movement (similar to results you'd expect with higher frame rates). Ideally, the frame rate should be 60fps for good VR quality - but not an option with either of these cameras. Even so, I think the Vuze XR does a much better job with that given the 30fps limitation... somehow.
There was no mention of these movement artifacts - but a REALLY important feature to consider. With that... I think my choice would be the Vuze.
I agree... I couldn't see how this was not mentioned in the stabilization part of the video. The 360EVO was just horrible, in this respect. Also with any movement. I also have an interest in extreme close-up shots of the coffee cup. I wish the shots could have been matched better. I find the 360EVO too difficult to look at really close, and it appeared as if the coffee cup was moved (probably just lens) to a "more comfortable" distance so the 360EVO looked better. I'm just not finding the 360EVO good at really close-up shots. The Qoocam seems to do well close-up, and the XR as well. Found the distortion in the table interesting, in the balcony shot, as well. Loved the hard work put into this video. There is a price difference for the 360EVO, but i'm not sure it's the route to go for xtreme close-up material. Viewed this in 3D with my Oculus VR by Samsung.
Ben, I was wondering if you've done a tutorial on post processing multiple exposures HDR from the Insta 3601X? I cant seem to find tutorial. Thanks l.
Hi David, no I haven’t as the app does it all for you :)
Best for life streaming ?
Of course i will never dislike your video... though i havent got any 360 camera... it just a wishful thinking i will have. Thanks for sharing your experience with 180 or 360 cam. regards.
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@@BenClaremont thank you Ben... regards
The weird thing about the Vuze is that nearby objects seem too big! I've seen in-car videos made on the Vuze where the car and the driver seem gargantuan! Also no adjustable brightness/exposure etc means that it's more likely to overexpose images when shot in a dynamic environment (such as a car). So I ended up going with the EVO, which is much more flexible while still producing good looking imagery.
Interesting
@@BenClaremont Hi Ben, It is! I'll illustrate my point with some examples. have a look at these in VR and tell me that the interior of the car looks the right size to you! Look at the size of the mirrors, steering wheel, the persons hands, phone etc.. it just looks way oversized to me. Could be the lenses of the Vuze causing it, or maybe the processing software.. I'm not sure.
th-cam.com/video/b3dEuCN8SeU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/lK-wraddkSI/w-d-xo.html
Maybe it's just me, but nearby things just look like they're too big! And overexposed as well, though I've also seen some passable videos which were filmed in less dynamically challenging situations (cloudy day/evening/night).
The Vuze really seems like a cool cam, and I did consider it. It's just that the EVO seems to fit my purposes a bit more.
Here's a car video I shot myself (on the EVO): th-cam.com/video/9bAQSxI-XZo/w-d-xo.html
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Ergh, it sucks that the evo keeps forgetting its previous settings. Ie. Its not possible to leave the camera in video mode. Nor to keep photo mode in HDR.
Yeah- try suggesting it to them in the Facebook group as they’ll most likely listen :)
There's an added task of keep the floor clean too
Ok....
What do you think about the Fujifilm FinePix real 3d?
Never heard of it 😅
That iPad Pro case you’re using, please tell me is that a Holocase??? Would be soooo sick if we could actually Holocase an iPadPro!! If it is, then I’m totally 100% convinced to buy an EVO.
No such thing exists yet for iPad but yes it would be very cool!
Hi Mr Ben, I just watched your video with an headset and...wow.... astonishing! If I may suggest you something, by the feeling viewing your video, I found a little bit annoying the position I have been set in the scene. I try to explain better: in the scene with the coffee cup, i felt like my head was cut and placed on the table (this means that 3D works veeeeery well indeed!!!); on the scene you walking around I felt like a baby in your arms (nearly kissing you, omg....) and on the balcony I felt crouching on the table. I think that with this ny tecnology is essential to program every scene thinking that the cams are effectively the eyes and the head of the spectator. Thank you again for all your interesting videos!
Thanks Antonio, and yes good point, camera placement is important due to how real the experience feels 👍
@@BenClaremont ... but then, it opens a whole new world of experiences. BEING the table is certainly not the most favorable amongst them and we prefer being John Malkovic, but when I see what you've come up with in tiny planet creativity, I'm sure you'll find some interesting perspectives for us in 3D 180 VR as well 😜
Do you think that the EVO it's ok to Virtual tours also?
Yes
I want to thank you for your informative videos. I will be purchasing your tutorial course on 360 video. I am going to purchase an Evo in the next few days. I wanted to see if you have some sort of package deal or something? Tutorial plus camera / equipment bundle or something? I am on the way out the door, but will message you later this evening. Thanks
Thanks Dan! No I don’t sell cameras or anything.. just my course :)
I'm trying to watch this on a Valve Index using Virtual Desktop and it refuses to toggle to 3d, I can only get it in 2D.
I own a QooCam, thinking about buying a EVO as well. For me the Vuse looked the best in the walking section even with the movement the image was crisper. Of the two (QooCam and EVO) stablized walking shots I think the QooCam won. Look at your shoulders in the last two. There is some artifacts from the stabilization on both but its far more pronounced and dare I say ugly on the EVO. All other points the EVO did seem to win the day though. Sadly the main reason I want the EVO is for the VR180 Stabilization :/ This is a tough one.
Hi Greg, EVO is definitely best for stabilization.. maybe I didn’t use the best export settings for that shot. See the walking sample I uploaded to VeeR (you can find my profile through the link in the description)
A year on and the Insta360 Evo appears to have been discontinued. Does this mean they're replacing it with a superior model do you think or that there isn't a viable 180 3D market?
Rumors of a module for their One R, but nothing set yet.
Be cool the Mobile Phones could film vr footage already similar to evo or vuse
Hi Ben! Is it possible to view 180 3d videos on LG 3D TV's? ( i.e. same as with youtube but with glasses for 3d?)
I think so although I haven’t tried 🤔
Just watched the video on my computer monitor. Noticed that a lot of both horizontal and vertical lines that should be straight were quite 'wiggly' and this was all thru the video.
Unfortunately that’s due to TH-cam’s compression. Follow the link in the description to watch it on VeeR where straight lines behave the way they should 👍
Thanks, good to see that there's nothing wrong with the world! ;-)