Is precipitated withdrawal really all that bad?
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- Dr. Peter Coleman, who is Board-certified in Addiction Medicine and has been in recovery from opioid use himself since 1984, discusses what causes precipitated opioid withdrawal and just how bad it really is.
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Ask anyone that's truly experienced it and I'm willing to bet* most if not all would say it's the worst thing they've ever experienced.
Yeah exactly I don't know what this guy's talking about when he says, "it's not that bad" what an idiot. Happened to me twice in my life and it was the worst experience that I've ever been through. Tbh I feel like I got PTSD from it. I've even had nightmares about it.
Worse feeling I've ever felt hands down. Immediate feeling of doom and I wanted to kill myself to get away from it.
Facts so bad this cuz dont know what its like smh
@@getstraight234 totally agree. It without question causes ptsd. Ptsd is something I don't see talked a lot about when it comes to withdrawal/precipitated withdrawal, but it's an incredibly real thing and one of the main things that keeps people on opiates longer than they want/should be. The ptsd from the withdrawal will cause most people to do almost anything to avoid it. It's a very real thing and it needs to discussed and treated appropriately far more often than it is. Opiate addiction treatment/therapy still has a lot of ways to go in many areas and withdrawal ptsd is one of them.
@@barefootiguana2760 a hundred percent agree. I've been in situations where people start talking about times or they've had precipitated withdrawals and I seriously have to tell them to stop talking about it because my heart heart rate I start going to the roof just thinking about it, I'll start breathing heavily and sometimes even get that feeling I had at the beginning of the precipitated withdrawals just from hearing people talk about it.
I love when these doctors think they know it all because they have studied it. Unless you have actually been through precipitated withdrawal don’t try and say it’s “not that bad”. It’s the absolute worst experience/feeling/sickness I’ve ever felt in my life. Think about having the worst flu of your life and feeling like shit and multiply it by 1000x. I honestly don’t even do drugs to get high anymore I do them because I am deathly afraid of going through withdrawals again it was the absolute worst experience of my life.
Dude I’m right there with you. I’m praying this Bernese method of micro dosing I’m doing right now will at least make my predisposed withdraw only last 4 hours or so instead of 16 like it was like time I got clean. So ready to be off these pressed m30s. I swear the devil made this shit in a lab himself. It stays in your system for 5 days. Notice he only said fent once he didn’t bring it up again. Only said heroine because you can go 24 hours without and hop over. These blue pills from China aren’t anything like that. It’s all a trap
@@CherokeeChief. exactly bro I’ve done the bernease method and it works bro. That’s how I got on subs last time for like 2 months. It makes the withdrawls only come to like 20% maybe and it’s manageable.
@@MattSlapps hey bro did you do it for a week or how long did you do the Bernese method?? I’m praying it’s gonna be just a week. It’s not easy microdosing. But I’m doing it. Right now actually. Man I’m ready to be clean again brother
Hi MattSlapps-Dr Coleman is actually in recovery from opioid use himself, so he does have some personal experience with withdrawal. We use an approach like the Bernese method to help patients get into buprenorphine. It is a wonderful medication for many people. Thanks for engaging with our content. If you have other topics you’d like us to tackle, please let us know. Best wishes.
Fellow druggy to another can you please $tj3294
Is it all that bad? No, it’s worse.
I totally agree with you. It is the worst medical crisis I have ever experienced. After tapering down to 2mg of Suboxone, I was ready to transition to Naltrexone. I only took 1 50mg tablet as prescribed and within about 1/2 hr. I was on my way to the ER with precipitated withdrawal symptoms. This occurred as even after several weeks of stopping Suboxone it was still on the receptors. I spent the next 36 hrs. in the hospital for observation.
I don’t agree with Dr. Coleman on this one. It was like regular withdrawals on steroids!!!
@@valeriecline450 how did they treat you in the ER for pow? I thought about going but got scared thinking about not able to walk and move around and shit. I just got through that hell
Hi Patrick, They gave me the standard comfort meds (ie: clonidine and Hydroxyzine) which I already had at home from prior attempts to quit Suboxone!
I think in general the medical community’s only knowledge is in prescribing this medication to people after detox. There is not enough information or training on how to treat precipitated withdrawal, in my opinion.
Its worse than helll
Going to ER makes it worse. What I did I took 10 bags of heroin in like 5 min
Put it this way. Almost all the people I know that experienced precipitated withdrawal for the first time, went to the er because they legitimately thought they were dying, myself included.
It’s like a barrage of g forces slamming into your brain, you can’t see straight, and if you close your eyes it’s like you’re spinning while falling down a dark hole.
Your stomach REELS in pain. The shooting pain that takes your breathe away then folds over itself into a dehydrating cramping pain that will bring you to your knees. Your entire body covers in goosebumps and your teeth chatter so badly you cannot talk. The sweat pours out if your pores which only intensifies the freezing feeling.
And just as you’re about to pass out from the spinning, every fragment of waste in your body comes flying up your esophagus and it’s a thick, suffocating burst of vomit which sends shivers up your spine, over and over throwing up. Exhausted from the painful vomitting you lay there, ears buzzing, stomach reeling, just to have what disn’t come out your mouth now bellowing in your stomach and you have two seconds to make it to the toilet to then blow the poison out your backside. All the while freezing cold, sweating, spinning, tasting and smelling chemicals.
It’s so fking bad man.
Damn I thought regular withdrawals were bad but you made precipitated withdrawals sound like hell on earth
Mate I’ve just had two days of it and your post is bang on. I kept blacking out and losing time on top of all the leg spasms running to toile and head stuff
The way you described it made me remember when it happened to me back in 2017. I remember feeling like alarms were going off inside my body and then feeling like I swallowed a pitcher of ice cubes! Followed by projectiling out both ends, then rolling around in bed for several hours. The worst part? I had a 4 mg Dilaudid pill that fell on the ground next to my bed, that I didn't even notice was there until about 6 hours into the ordeal! Once I found that and put it in me, along with a little bit of crystal it gave me enough energy to make it to my plugs house even though I still felt a bit sick. Addiction is a crazy disease
That's exactly right!!! I was on methadone maintenance and had my son...while in labor they gave me medicine that put ne into precipitated withdrawal while pushing my son out. Wanna talk about hell...I've been there. My doctor was so pissed at them. He said I should've had a heart attack and was lucky to be alive.
@jackiespanbauer4276 well I actually did have a heart attack at just 29 years of age from a long normal detox and withdrawals from methadone so your Doctor is not exaggerating that. You poor thing having to experience the pain of child birth and the shock of an immediate precipitated withdrawal is the stuff of nightmares
It's a fucking nightmare. Full of nightmares. Coming off of heroin, it's not as bad. But after prolonged use of fentanyl, it's the only time in your life you wish you'd die and you'd be ok with that
Word brotha. I've kicked every drug a hundred times, and nothing has ever made me want to die or try to kill me like precipitated withdrawal did. There's no words for the pain. But I been clean a decade now, so maybe that was my last step of the process after using for like 15 years.
“It’s not that bad?” Omg. Let me tell you, I didn’t even iv the subs, I took them orally. I was throwing up so bad I couldn’t even make it to the bathroom. I was just paralyzed on the floor. Worst restless leg syndrome EVER. Worst insomnia EVER. Yeah, sure it goes away faster than regular withdrawal, but dude, I’d take a week of bad heroin withdrawal over precipitated withdrawal for one day, ANY DAY. Most horrible thing EVER. And what the drs don’t tell you now is that fentanyl takes a lot long to leave your receptors than regular heroin so when you think it’s probably safe to take your subs, oh ho ho, it is NOT.
I really like your comment. I am finding not a lot of people know about PW or actually have experienced it. I actually did it by accident. I was feeling a bit sweaty... had to go to work.. thought oh take my husbands subox to help... I was so very wrong. I was at work had NO CLUE what was happening to me. There is not enough info about PW at all out there!!!! I ended up in the hospital! From about 9:30 am to 5;00 pm of just agony. Felt like I was being put in a microwave. ALSO.. my entire body felt everything... my clothing hurt even... so bad. Sweating non stop, cold and hot, nose running to the point I could not even wipe it, anxiety x 100, my body would not stop jerking around, I could not stay still but wanted to lay down. OMG the shitting almost killed me, as well as the barfing. I almost fainted on my boss.. when I went to say I had to go home. Work was trying to get me to a medical clinic or hospital... but I did not want them to know what happened... I though I had an allergic reaction to Subox... HAD ZERO clue PW even existed. I also remember my vision not working.. so I could not look up anything to help. I actually think I have a PTSD from it. I can not stop researching about it.... SCARY man. Finally at the hospital at about 4 30 pm they gave me some Advil and an Ativan. that little Ativan was what helped me calm down. Was discharged about 7 pm. What was SUPER scary... was the heart rate, it would NOT go down... the main reason I went to the emergency room really.... PW is no joke man... I will NEVER have that happen again... Those that have actually experienced it... no way would say.. its not that bad. It is that bad, no wait it is worse then that bad. worse then you can imagine!!!!!
Your right, you need to be off the fent for over 80 plus hours before taking a sub which is so hard. I had a little Kratom to take to get me to that 80 plus hour threshold so I did not get precipitated. I just feel paralyzed with zero energy right now. Going to take a leak is a chore. Better than precipitated though. I prob have about 4-5 days before I have my regular energy back. And even than it won’t be all the way normal.
@@mattnoah8309I'm only on 24 hours no fetti, I'm scared I dont have any money to wing myself off by microdosing so I'm n fear of what's to come
@@mattnoah8309How are you doing now?
@@mattnoah830980 hours? This is not true for everyone it’s not the amount of time it’s how bad your withdrawals are referring to the COWS
After experiencing PW a few times before I finally got on methadone, I can honestly say it was the absolute worst experience anyone will ever have. Until you've experienced it yourself, you have no idea what hell is. It is the absolute worst misery you will ever experience, and it's not a fact, it's a promise.
I’ve been through precipitated withdrawal and it was absolute hell. I went completely insane on top of brutal withdrawal. It’s absolutely horrific.
Lol if ur not a addict and haven't gone threw it dont act like u know about it
They’re insane! It’s the worst feeling you can imagine! I went through it twice obviously by accident. Pulled my hair out screaming and wanted to drive off of a bridge... that’s how bad it is. So grateful to be off that mess.
I used what I thought was a clonidine Friday morning but was a Suboxone. I had done my last line of heroin/Fetty about 30 minutes prior to that. I literally laid from about 920/940 Friday morning all the way through Sunday night. Throwing up, diarrhea (on myself) muscles in my calves and thighs seized up so bad I would scream in pain when I tried to straighten them out.when I realized I wasn't pissing myself from my body trying so hard to throw up and I was actually shitting myself I laid in my bathtub over 30 hours just throwing up and shitting. I couldn't get out because my leg muscles were still seized so tight you could watch them shrink when id try to get out of the tub.
So you swallowed a Suboxone pill and it hit you like that ? I was always taught swallowing it did nothing
I'd love for this "KNOW IT ALL" To experience precipitated withdrawal and then listen to what he has to say about it!
Ex-act-lyyyyy
It’s bad, very bad. After about 20 minutes you start to get this uneasy, feeling almost like a sense of doom with some nausea and chills at that point if you’ve experienced it before you know you’ve messed up because you don’t start to feel better he starting to feel worse. You get diarrhea and you’re throwing up at the same time for like two hours all the normal withdrawal symptoms are just exaggerated. I’ve never actually went longer than two hours. I always went to go cop after the precipitated withdrawal, but the doctor say the best thing to do is to just continue to take small doses of Suboxone.
The chill pierces the bones. And that doom feeling. Feels like your soul was just sucked out and all happiness vanishes from the world.
I did it last Thursday. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Almost like you're dying. Doom is right.
@@daglawrence Terrible dysphoria.
It’s not heroin anymore though. It’s fentanyl which stays in the system/much higher tolerance’s developed. Fentanyl makes getting on suboxone VERY TOUGH. You can be in full withdrawal from fentanyl and still be thrown into precipitated withdrawal from suboxone/subutex. Coming off fentanyl is not going to be easy , but is your life worth it?? I wanted a better life . If I can do it then you can, I promise!
I am a six year methadone patient . I took fentanyl. Overdosed . Hit with narcan . I thought I was going to die. I would have run out the window of a skyscraper 100% if capable . The agony was indescribable.
This past week I’ve been afraid of falling asleep. I am afraid of dieng . I have intense pains in my organs from the absolutely maniacal pain and insanity I felt . Bruises all over my body.
Most traumatic experience in my life
This is the only thing I've seen where I disagree with you. Precipitated withdrawal is the most hellish of all withdrawal
Thanks for sharing your feedback, Barefoot Iguana. We’ll share it with Dr Coleman and Dr Swainey. Withdrawal symptoms vary widely and it feels like they both have touched a nerve with some viewers on this topic. We really appreciate your engagement. If you have other topics you’d like us to cover, please let us know.
@@thecolemaninstituteforaddi6234Yeah, go ahead and "share it with him," so he can simply dismiss it. What would all of us know we have only experienced it. Just because he was an opioid addict doesn't mean he has experienced PW. It is more than obvious that he has not. 😂
@@thecolemaninstituteforaddi6234This video needs to edited or removed, people watching this thinking if they listen to this professional and start there withdrawal everything will be fine. Absolutely not if you go into precipitated withdrawals anywhere except your bathroom or bathroom floor you will be extremely sorry. Every single comment in response to this video is people who have experienced the horrific nature of precipitated withdrawal and there opinion should not be taken lightly or brushed aside. Obviously the teachings are not up to par with the real world experience of going thru precipitated withdrawal. Revise this video before someone gets hurt PLEASE.
It’s dangerous too, there are reports of suicide, delusions, seizures, cardiac arrest, stroke and death from PWDs. Saying PWDs are that bad to an addict is like telling a child who watched their family die, it’s okay you will forget about it eventually.
@@thecolemaninstituteforaddi6234🤬🤬🤬🤮🤮🤮😭😭😭 I literally just went through PWs and it's THEE WORST DAY IN MY LIFE
Let me put it this way since doctors don’t understand. If you stuck that doctor in a room and told him he has 1 day until he can come out, put him in precipitated withdrawal, leave only a gun in there, he would pull the trigger in no more than 10-15 mins. It is beyond your imagination. Your mind couldn’t even dream of how bad it is unless you have felt it
😂😂😂I would love two see him in precipitated with drawl worst feeling ever ! Thought I was dieing literally
Precipitated withdrawal is really bad. In about one hour of the start of it, withdrawal kicks in fast, you're in FULL withdrawal × 5.
I shot subs once , literally after 10 seconds it was on like donkey Kong. It was in this moment I knew I fu*ked up
I went through it a few days ago... first time experiencing that...yes it's fucking down right torture
It’s sad there are doctors like this.
Not that bad??.. is he serious? I almost put a bullet in my head when I took a sub too early!
I don't know if you're exaggerating but I literally was contemplating on offing my self when I through it lol
@travispowell7835 definetly not exaggerating. I was considering it aswell. And I've never been suicidal. It's that bad for sure..
I was smoking 50 Phx Blues/day for 3 years and a nurse gave me subutex 19 hours into Fentanyl withdrawal and they had to put me in a diaper and give me a huge shot of Xanax and something for nausea and I still kept shitting myself and couldn't breathe from constantly puking and then woke up in another hospital after seizing. What I remember most was feeling like I got shot in the gut every 10 minutes before shitting myself cause my guts were twisting in knots...PLEASE, wait at LEAST 72 hours before even microdosing
Those taking fent you are gonna need to wait 80 plus hours before suboxone or your gonna get precipitated. If you can get some Kratom to take for those days that will help as it’s not affected by the subs. But you need to wait really long time off fent to take subs
Not everyone, I can take it at 48 hours and i know some people who can take it in 12 hrs. There can be a huge variability. I thinn.a good market is how fast do you get sick since your last hit? If it's a long time (like 20 hrs) then likely youll have to wait longer to take your subs
It all depends on your tolerance. Bigger the tolerance the longer you have to wait.
Took sub to early. Very suck. When should i try sub again?
It’s literally the worst feeling I’ve ever experienced in life
I would respectfully ask that you consider taking this down and talking to some people who use drugs about this. Not only is it extremely bad, these days its way worse because of how fentanyl binds to the receptors and gets stored in the body. Its become harder to manage as you can get it after waiting a longer time and people say its different/worse than heroin when it does happen.
I was cut off of 15mg of oxytocin e with 1 more month then I heard about kratom. It stopped the withdrawal symptoms and the pain.
Its like the first (and worst) third of the withdrawal process condensed into a 5-60 minute span before the buprenorphine kicks in more and makes it a tiny bit better. Its absolutely awful, did it once by accident and it was unimaginably bad
It's Very Bad when and if it happens. The restless legs kicked in overtime for hours. I've only seen it happen twice to a full extent and maybe to a lesser extent a few times
Not at all why you go into precipitated. And real precips are absolute hell
Its horrendous. Happened to me yesterday, after waiting 3 days and it was still to soon. And Suboxone withdrawal it also horrendous.
I hate that they say its not that bad i couldnt stop shitting and throwing up for hours i truley felt like i was gonna die my old lady friend came and cleaned me up and gave me four oxys and watched over me while my body got better i want to quit so bad but i cant get to that point where i can take a suboxone and be ok i hate this shit
Early on during MAP treatment I was overtaking my subs. When I ran out, started to withdraw, so I took a pill called naltrexone. My girlfriend was taking that for alcohol dependence. Naltrexone sounds like naloxone. I thought her medicine would stop the withdrawal process. Nope. It sped it up immediately. 20 minutes after taking her pill I felt like I was in day 3 of opiate withdrawal. Not good 😬
If he's talking about a 2-3 mg precipitated withdrawal that's not that bad.. anyone who's gone through 8-12mg+ precip will tell you it is truly hell on earth. Sheer brutal torture. Indescribable.
16 mg was bad, coming off a carfentanyl habit. I only waited until 24 hours to take it like an idiot.
Took sub to early. Only 12 hours in. Didn't know about pw. Took 8mg of sub. When can I try sub again
Clean for a decade this week baby! Whoooppppp
I experienced this most recently kicking fentanyl, i was in day 3 of withdrawal from that, and thinking that i would feel better like so many times before using bupe to kick oxy i did. I think i took about 4 mg of sub and within 20 min had the worst imaginable pain throughtout my body and head ive ever experienced. I couldnt think straight and thought i was swaeting out icicles. My bloodpressure felt like it was comstsntly fluctuating and dropping.. Im pretty sure it would be the worst form of torture ever if it could be imduced on someone over and over again. .That would be the closest thing to hell imaginable.. Anyway after realizing the bupe was fighting off what fentanyl was still in my body the pain finally susided after I gradually took more and more bupe.. needless to say i researched and learned what microdosing was after that, and its effectiveness.
Question for you. I too have had a similar experience and have read that more and more bupe will eventually bring you out on the other side of sickness. One doctor said he's seen 64mg in first day to bring someone out of PW. How much did you end up taking? 16mg didn't even touch my symptoms but I always read where 16mg is the limit first day dose.
@bradfordalan6924 I really don't think there's a method to taking bupe at a set time and amount to prevent /avoid precipated withdrawal successfully. Theres to many factors that come into play. I've learned this the hard way every time. Yes it subsides after a couple hrs with increased bupe intake but sometimes its dragged on longer. I don't ever plan on going near fentanyl again the risk and discomfort just isnt worth feeling like that. The only thing that worked for me coming off ff it comfortably is to take methadone for the first few days if you can get it.
I went through it last night. It was horrible! I took a 8mg Sub 24 hrs after my last dose of methadone and holy hell. Within 5 min I began to sweat and get cold/hot flashes. I got horrible diarrhea and the anxiety was brutal. It was horrible as I didn’t know how long it would last. The anxiety and hopelessness I think is the worst. Luckily, I took some clonidien, gabbalentin and some dyoxasomething and fell asleep 2.5 hrs into the PWD and woke up 10 hrs later feeling better. I feel like I got lucky as I only had a few hrs of it, but it was NOT cool. I couldn’t imagine having PWD for 6-12-24+ hrs. That would be pure torture. Luckily, it didn’t last super long. Maybe those meds helped too. 😦
Go ahead and try it doc. Show us that all the comments are wrong and it’s not that bad. I’ll pay you.
Lots of benzos are the only thing that helps a little unless you have enough smack to shoot up to get over the top of the subs
Yes benzos really helps
Oh my god, it’s absolute hell.
Yea just wait a lil while lol ...until the fentanyl metabolites are stored in ur fat cells for weeks, but yea just wait a lil while
Exactly!
How long should I wait?
Can't believe he said it's not bad it's fcking terrible
It’s the worst!!!!!!!!
In answer to the title: Is hell hot? 😂😂😂😂
Participated withdrawal is HELL. Its difficult to put into words. I was using kratom, and took 50mg of naltroxone 1 hour after large kratom dose. Very stupid move. Next 12 hours I was in hell. Skin crawling, head spinning, could barrely walk, hot/cold flushes, whole body restlessness, twitching, Shitting every 10 minutes, Almost shit myself. Intense dyxphoria, obviously no sleep. And kratom is a partial agonist. I cant imagine what its like getting hit with narcar from H of fetty.
Yes
Is he for real? He said precipitated withdrawal is not that bad! Well, doc, if YOU haven't had a bout of a full onslaught of that experience, then i suggest you do better research. I had not one but two bouts. It's much worse than a normal withdrawal. The 24 hours were hell. Talk to more addicts who went through this.
Lies. I bet everyone would agree, it is the WORST thing imaginable. There are NO WORDS for how bad it is. It's the only thing I truly thought would kill me, and only thing I wanted to die from. It makes every opiate withdrawal feel like a cakewalk. I've done em all, a hundred times. I've gone through precipitated withdrawal 1x, and I never ever want to go thru that again. Shitting myself, feel 200 degrees, then 30 degrees, like razorblades are going thru your blood, and it's not just the kicks it is the entire body kicking. I remember laying on bed and my whole body flailing like the exorcist had me. How I didn't die or go to the E.R. and somehow toughed it out, I dunno. If I had an enemy and wanted them to suffer, this is what I'd want them to go through. It's that bad. 10 years clean now. Good lord, I'll never forget that fkn day. Some serious PTSD that I'll never be able to get over.
I OD'd and they hit me with naloxone then strapped me to a hospital gurney for 5hrs. I was helplessly dying for 5hrs straight and couldnt move. Its not just bad, its hell on earth. The doc finally hit me with valium because i wouldnt stop screaming and cursing them out. They also told me i was the first patient they ever witnesses escape the gurney straps by using my teeth 😂. At that point they had enough of my 💩 and sedated me lol
Worse
My friend shot himself in the head from PWS while trying to get off Fetti
YES it is that bad.
Avoid at all costs.
You have to understand that from a doctors perspective compared to serious diseases like cancer, MRSA, etc. Precipitated withdrawal is relatively banal. When he says "not that bad" I think what he means is that it doesn't usually last more than a day and doesn't have serious long term effects. Go sit in a pediatric cancer ward for a few hours and then whine to me about your precip withdrawal. And yes I have been through it myself before so I know how uncomfortable it is.
I've been abused in the past and I'm telling you now, if I was forced into either, I'd much rather be abused for a week straight than go through even one day of precipitated withdrawals again. My body is very sensitive to withdrawing and can be alot more intense and last alot longer than the average person. Doesn't matter if your comparing it to a children's pediatric cancer unit or not, it's still absolute hell on earth.
@@cameronrushton6578 The point is that it isn't that serious compared to a lot of other diseases.
Yes it really is that bad in my experience it’s about 2-3 times worse than regular withdrawal at regular withdrawals peak horribleness it’s for sure worse but it’s not 100 times worse like some people say it’s more intense though
Is this a joke? Delete this embarrassment or a video. “Not that bad”? Tell me you’ve never experienced opiate addiction without telling me you’ve never experienced opiate addiction”’these doctors know nothing apparently. Not that bad 🙄 ITS HELL ON EARTH and just bc people are strong enough to take it doesn’t mean it’s not that bad!
Lmao I knew what he was gonna say before clicking on the video. Every opiate doctor on YT is the same. "Precipitated withdrawal isn't that bad", "methadone doesn't effect your liver, etc". Random junkies on Reddit are more knowledgeable than these guys
I thought this guy knew what he was talking about, but obviously he doesn't have a clue!!!! Just reading script.
Man it’s bad take my advice yall if u reading this no joke no lie I’d rather just go through withdrawals it’s like ya body is doing a scan from head to toe to see how much is in ya system then bam u sick as hell your body is like on fire…
So if I was doing fentanyl for 6months
Could I switch to regular fentanyl free heroin for a 8days then take suboxone ?
Would that be a good way around PW ? Since suboxone is safe to take 24-48 hours after last use wouldnt it be best to do heroin for a week or so then take the subs? Is this an option to get around PW?
Bullshit ! The ABSOLUTE WORST THING IVE EVER EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFE !!! I WOULD NOT WISH THAT ON MY ENEMY!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Not sold. Sir, you are wrong. Perhaps ask one of your patients to describe the utter hell.
This ninja got no clue what he’s talking about these withdrawals feel like your soul got taken out and someone is stomping on your skeleton with a big dash of doom not depression Doom….
These doctors have no clue what they are talking about.
“It’s not that bad” ight this dude don’t know shit
This Dr isnt as smart as he thinks he is.
I was in suboxone earlier tilhis year, i decided to stop taking for a few days so i could use some fetty, and when I defided i was "good" I took my sub. Theres no words for the amount of suffering. My body felt like led suit. I couldnr even walk. My pupils dialated HUGE. EVERYTHING hurt. Absolute hell. Couldn't even make it to the restroom so i just had to shit myself. Finally got ahold of some xanax to help a bit