Noo Sherman, nooo!! Whenever I get to the puzzle and it gives me a straight line, I wait 30 seconds so that I can reroll it, because otherwise I feel like I just got scammed -- investing 5 minutes of my time to get the easiest puzzle 😡 unnacceptable!! :D
@@Marcmb i mean it's free real estate :D (+ i don't think that this chamber can count as puzzle, because you just need to memorize the path and that's all, while at big oil its actually nice puzzle)
@@4rtstellar That's true yeah... it's not as much of a puzzle as the Big Oil engine problem, but it's still kind of a "puzzle", much like the common "jumping puzzles" in other games, which are just parkour courses that for some reason are called puzzles :p
Ouch! Completely understandable Alt+F4 right there, that's a true FeelsBadMan :p Stepping on the wrong tile on your way to The Diamond is a bit frustrating, but doing so on your way back is something else! Hahaha :D
I’m doing it right now, and I did exactly the same thing. I was able to get out somehow due to getting downed by a minigun dozer inside of the extraction box.
honestly, i think that the tile puzzle is what prevents most people from doing this in stealth because of several reasons. the tiles all blend in with each other in such a dimly lit room. the circuit board is timed meaning you can't just take your time with it. and trying to remember which tiles you need to step on is difficult when the route is so complicated.
That might be the case, yeah! The puzzle is very easy to fail until you get a good strategy, and the straightforward approach of "simply memorizing the path" can be complicated sometimes. Although personally the puzzle is my favorite part of the heist, because I like memorizing the path and running for it :D
Not to mention the countdown timer starts when you interact with the box and not when the path is finished lighting up. So the longer the path is, the less time you have to run through it (unless you have a 2nd player guiding you as it lights up). Also, I don’t know how people can just sprint through it. Everytime I try I end up clipping a corner and sounding the alarm. My first dsod of this I clipped a corner and let the ai guard me until escape arrived.
It's been 3 years since I played and have well over 1000 hours in it. Yet the LEVEL OF EFFORT, You showed everything. And show alternatives and so much more. Man. That's a commitment to thorough high quality content. I enjoy remembering the game through these videos
Hey gregheffly! Glad you're enjoying the videos as a PAYDAY veteran, it's really great to read that you're remembering your good times even after not playing for a long while :) I really enjoy making these videos, going in-depth into many different details of the heist, so I'm glad you enjoy that aspect of the videos! Really appreciate it a lot. Thank you for watching! :)
Missed section on the last part. Every stealthers know you must activates ECM feedback or throw a grenade before stepping into the escape zone for showing your *MAD* skill to those pathetic guards
Hey Enrico! I used to that all the time, but it's a skill that I've lost after too much ECM rushing :D Nowadays, my approach when ECM rushing is to kill all guards, and tie all civs, so even if I activate the feedback at the very end, no one notices :p For this reason, I've completely forgotten about this, and I don't do it anymore :D It would've been fitting for this quick rush though!
I've just downloaded PD2 again after 5 years(yes, last time I played was in 2015). Everything looks new and weird, I forgot literally every tips and tricks I used to know. Just found your channel last week, this kind of videos really help me out getting in touch again, thanks a lot.
Hey Projectnsight! Happy to hear that :) That's quite a long time, so I'm sure you'll have fun rediscovering the game, and checking all the new content! Have fun with your return to the game, and thanks for enjoying the content! :D
@@Marcmb can you give me link&instruction on how to install pocohud? . I download it from there tiny.cc/mbwosz and the video instruction said I need to extract the zip into PD2 main folder. I did that but nothing happened, tried to put it into blt's mod folder still nothing. Help pls
@@Marcmb nevermind, I was informed that the "original" link is severely outdated and I got the working mod now. Can you instead give recommended useful mods?
@@ksuma715 Hey Projectnsight! I've never downloaded any mods from a Dropbox link so that one may indeed be completely outdated. My HUD mods are actually a combination of _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers,_ so if you want to install those, here's the download links and the install instructions that you requested on your previous comment -- *Step-by-step written explanation (including download links)* · First of all, very importantly, in order for PAYDAY 2 mods to work you need to install some kind of mod-loading hook, SuperBLT being the most common one (it's a .dll file that you download and place in your PAYDAY 2 folder). Link to SuperBLT, with install instructions: superblt.znix.xyz/ *Step by step instructions to install SuperBLT* (1) Download the files in the link (follow instructions if you need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redistributable package (x86), which only applies for the first time you download this hook). (2) When you download the Latest Release DLL (WSOCK32.dll), place it in your PAYDAY 2 folder (Steam\steamapps\common\PAYDAY 2). To find this folder, you can go to your Steam library, right-click on PAYDAY 2, and then click Properties... > LOCAL FILES > BROWSE LOCAL FILES... which will open the directory in your file explorer. (3) Launch PAYDAY 2, and it will automatically prompt you to install the hook, automatically creating a "mods" folder in your PAYDAY 2 folder. (4) Close the game. (5) Now you can place any mods in your "mods" folder! I'll give you one example with the HUD. · Now for the actual HUD mods. You can get the "latest version" (it's a bit old, but still works) of PocoHud3 here: steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/1457328846183663967/ *Step by step instructions to install PocoHud3 (or any mod)* (1) All mods for PAYDAY 2 are downloaded as a .zip file, which contains just a folder inside. The folder name is usually just the name of the mod (in this case, the folder in the .zip is called "PocoHud3", and it contains files such as mod.txt, mod.lua, and others, depending on the specific mod). You want to unzip this folder into your "mods" folder that was just created in step (3) of the previous list of instructions. (2) Once the folder is in place, the mod has automatically been installed. (3) For any other mods that you want, repeat the download of the corresponding .zip, and place the corresponding folder inside the same "mods" folder. (4) That's it! Launch the game, and your mods will work! :D · _Additional PocoHud trackers_ download link: modworkshop.net/mod/26167 -- install instructions would be the same as the instructions for PocoHud3, just above :) That's about it! Very long response, but as you can see, installing mods is quite simple once you know how it works! If any of the steps are unclear, feel free to ask and I will clarify :)
@@Marcmb thank you, thank you, thank you. I got another link before, but the pocohud from that other one was indeed works but it make my game crash whenever the stealth got loud. The link you gave me doesnt have the going loud crash. Again thanks.
"the most fun part of this is the puzzle" actually every time i've done this, the puzzle has always been the least fun part, unless you are specifically being sarcastic in text here-.
Noo! Not sarcastic at all actually! I honestly love the puzzle, it's very unique and very engaging in my opinion. As I mentioned in response to another comment, whenever I get a boring path like a straight line I always wait so I can reroll it and get a more interesting one :D Thanks for watching Allan, and hope you enjoyed the video! :)
Thanks Khanjalli, glad that you think so! That's exactly the reason why I like making them so much: I can explain many different things in great detail, which hopefully can be useful even for experienced players to optimize their runs just a tiny bit :)
@@FrostCutter It's a weird cycle, for sure... I'm certain that I would do less content if I didn't get this much feedback, but I'm no TH-cam expert so I have no idea of how the cycle starts!
Nice video Marcmb, you are one of the smartest payday 2 player i've seen, i was able to complete this mission on DS/OD without going thru the lower difficulty because of this video. Thanks a lot.
Happy to hear that J C, and thank you for the kind words! :D I'm glad the guide is being useful, and good job completing the heist directly on the highest difficulty, well done!
Played this heist a couple of times and didnt even notice the tiles u already stepped on stay marked! OMG. How often I was failing it when I was running back in a complete hurry only relying on my wasted memory. Thanks bro! Knowing this will make this heist a lot more enjoyable
That's right adrian! If you keep interacting with it over and over, after a few minutes it will only be able to give you straight lines :) I prefer the harder paths though, personally :p
Your attention to detail when listing every possible spawn with a backup screenshot is very much appreciated. It would be nice if you did one for all the possible device spawns in Framing Frame Day 3 too.
Thank you Bok! Glad you liked that :) I'm working on a similar guide for Framing Frame (it's a bit long, because I'm combining DAY1 and DAY3 into a single video, with just a few notes regarding DAY2), and it will definitely include all the spawns for the different devices, with screenshots of them, and my usual path to check all of them! Hopefully it will be a good video :)
Awesome! Glad I could teach you a couple of new things :D I actually didn't know a lot about the intimidation trick until recently, but a very kind viewer (named Rex) told me about it, and explained how it disables their idle animations, so they can never look side to side (thus their frontal view is centered constantly), which can be very helpful :)
I love seeing all these videos as you walk through it step by step and go into detail. I'm not sure if it would work all that well for a video but it would be cool to then see a normal run of the mission at the end without pauses to show all the tips and tricks in one.
Ooh that's a good idea, thank you JEGG! Especially for the harder heists, I think it would help quite a bit to see a full gameplay without interruptions, to see how all the tips and tricks apply in a real run. Very good suggestion, I'll see what I can do for future heists!
Hey N0th1ng2Do! I appreciate that a lot, glad you're enjoying the content! :D And the channel has indeed been growing a lot lately, I'm very happy that so many heisters are liking the videos!
I think I know everything about a heist and then your guides always tell me at least one thing I don't know, these are helpful even for experienced players. That tip for getting into the front entrance with the guard there I had no idea about, I'll be doing that next time instead of restarting the heist to get past.
Thank you very much, Adam! Happy to hear that my guides are able to teach you small new things, that's great :) And indeed, the entrance trick is a personal favorite of mine, as I hate the thermite entrance, and I don't like restarting until the front guard is not there!
@@snowflakepanda8131 Hey Snowflakepanda! I do indeed already have one on Breakin' Feds, one of my favorite stealth heists :) Hope that video is useful! If you have any questions, feel free to leave a comment on that video! It'll be much easier to find there, because "new comments" always trigger a notification, but responses to responses are trickier to find :p
Great video! This map was a big letdown when it was released, probably because of high expectations set by Big Bank and Hotline Miami. Yet years later, it is actually not that bad. The level design is a bit too linear, but it also makes for a quick run and a fun puzzle. This map is also very fun in loud with the insane spawn rate but is actually one of the easiest to solo loud by kiting the cops.
Thanks bruce! I do remember that, yeah! Although I had already forgotten... Back when it was released, there were many complaints because of how quick the heist was: people complaining about the price tag, for a heist that was considered too short at the time... Personally I've always been a big fan of the puzzle at the end, so I was OK with the heist duration and its price :)
Aww very unfortunate typo. I do a lot of moving words around to ensure that all texts can fit neatly within 2 lines, so I probably misplaced one of the words during that, oops...
Very detailled research again very nice. I like the Trick with the guard standing in front of the gate. I used this trick with the mendozas in firestarter day 1 to stealth and I Think your use here was well used. Keep up the work!
Thanks Rabinowitz! Glad that you liked this stealth guide too :) I really enjoy making these, and explaining many different details in-depth. The intimidation trick can indeed be very useful in some situations. Glad you liked that, thank you! :)
Hey BJC! The classic Diamond Heist (Garnet diamond) is in my list of things to do, although it's not currently in the schedule so I'm not sure when it will be released!!
lil tip if you have trouble kill the son. get the boxes, and if the party lets out early restart or have a hell of a time trying to get around a billion civies and the pathing to the escape can be difficult usally youd want to restart till you get a spawn at second flloor next to the gym
Thank you Motorshow! I'm very happy to hear that, much appreciated :) Have fun with your return to PAYDAY 2, and look forward to Update 200! No one knows when it will arrive, or what it will bring, but I can't wait for the day it happens! :D
Tbh diamond is pretty ez, just hack the boxes and get 2 kc’s I just always mess up the ending part in the diamond room, now I can remember the trick and do it way easier
Hey Blonde! Very easy, and very quick; but that's what makes it so good! The best part of the heist is definitely the ending though, you can use one of the chat-based approaches to make it easy, or you can memorize the path to make it slightly more interesting! :D
Ayy another super straightforward heist--No speedrunning tips here but again very thorough. Once you master this heist, it becomes a good XP farm. Anyways, ty for the content~
Thank you Mot! It's decent for solo XP farming, and also one of the most entertaining heists because of how engaging the puzzle is! This used to be my most played heist during the Death Wish days :) I loved it then, and I still love it now!
@@Mot-dh5sx Absolutely agree! I think it's a combination of the interesting puzzle, and also how cool the loot room looks... just a very fun heist to play over and over :D
Now that this video is out, I am sad that I did do The Diamond on dsod stealth some time ago. I love those videos since they provide so much information and tips! Welp, time for me to go back and stealth it again :)
Hey Jakub! Happy to hear that you're enjoying the video even though you've already completed the heist :) Hopefully you can learn a few new small things, and your next runs will be even more enjoyable, or slightly more optimized! :D
Protip for stealth: Guards There are different kinds of guards and their Voice line can pretty much tell you if they want you to take the easy way or straight up fuck you up Voice lines (Easy way): "FREEZE!!" "NO SUDDEN MOVE!!" "STOP IT!!" Voice Lines (The one that can fuck you up) "It's the PAYDAY GANG!!" "3 Assaliance confirmed" "There are at least 3 of them" Guards that can take the easy way 1. Mall guards (Pager) 2. Street cops 3. Agents (Pager) 4. Murky waters Logistic Mercenary (Pager) 5. Murky waters Elite Federal Agents (Pager) Guards that can fuck you up 1. Gangsters 2. Soza Cartel Members 3. Soza Private Security (Pager) 4. Mendoza Cartel Members 5. Overkill Mc bikers 6. Cobra gang members [Backstabed/Provoked]
Very complete list Kaiser, good job! To add a little detail to this, your first list of guard types will trigger the pacifist voice line if it's the first time they see you, but if your arrest is on cooldown (less than 4 minutes since your last detection) then they will go straight to aggressive behavior :p
@@finmueller7827 Hmm I'm pretty sure those would be like the Counterfeit cops, for example... very similar to the Mallcrasher cops, but slightly different outfits... not sure though, since I didn't make the list :)
@@finmueller7827 Good question! As a general rule, cops dressed in blue (Mallcrasher cops outside, blue cops on Election Day day 2, blue cops on Counterfeit...) do not have pagers, so they can safely be killed without any repercussions :)
Hey Niicko! I'm happy that you think so, thank you! Imagining this guide being useful for new players is very satisfying! Hope you enjoyed the video :)
Hey Cammy! The channel has grown A LOT since I started, so I'm very happy to be here :D Glad you're enjoying the content, and thank you for watching! :)
An amazing guide as always :D Also! Some good news and some bad news. Good News - I finally beat Car Shop solo with my potato-level processing power laptop (although saying this is offensive to potatoes... pretty sure they have *more* processing power). While someone did offer to help, I'm extremely stubborn since I was able to see the end on one of my failed runs and new I would be able to complete it if I kept trying. Bad News - since I'm following the story (due to boredom and the fact that when I played on Xbox the story was only half done), it wasn't long until I reached another roadblock heist. Yacht Heist. While I understand the mechanics well enough with the laptop clues... the problem is just that I'm terrible at Payday stealth. Maybe I'll be inspired enough at some point to sit down and run the heist a hundred times until I complete it.
Hey Alex! Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed this one :) Car Shop becomes a lot trickier with low FPS, so that's definitely quite an achievement -- congratulations! As for Yacht Heist, I definitely recommend memorizing the general layout of the yacht, that helps a lot. (for example, there are some very easy money locations to remember, like the life boats which are at the front of the boat, the bookshelves which are always at the top floor... but there are some that are often more confusing, like the four rooms, which are in the back area of the main deck, or the wine/cigars which are beyond the section with the rooms...) Another great tip is to practice the end so that you can do it while keeping the 2 guards alive. If you have 4 pagers to use outside of that room, the whole heist will be very easy :D
@@Marcmb I managed to do most of the Yacht Heist fairly easily. My biggest problem was just the servers at the end (reached the objective that tells me to press the control button or whatever it was). Where my limited skill meant I had no knowledge of when I should move to avoid being seen. So I ended up being spotted and in my panic, dominated the guard in front of the other one and forgot I had ECMs which probably would have just let me finish with a short ECM rush.
@@SekiYuriDEV Ooh, you were very close then! I don't think the buttons have a timer, so you can take your time pressing the buttons. Keep the two guards in that room marked at all times, and use the 4 big pillars as cover. Should be quite easy with a clear idea in mind! :D
@@Marcmb It didn't seem like the button had a timer (I sat by the doors leading to where the AI sat for at least 5 minutes waiting for the guards to move to places I could sneak by) and Bain never said anything about running out of time. And I had managed to reach that server room with 1 pager left. If I ~did~ have enough skill or luck to get rid of one of the guards I probably would have succeeded with no problem. Edit: Bain not Vain
@@SekiYuriDEV I see, I see... it definitely sounds like you were already very close, then. If you only had 1 pager, there are some situations where the guards move away from the middle, and go either to the corners, or behind the walls. If you kill them there, you should be able to answer the pager and hide the body before the other guard notices! :)
Hey Maxmilian! It's one of my favorite "sets" of spawns, because I use it as a very safe way to move around the building, and if there's a box I quickly get it on my way to the next one :p Very small detail, but I'm glad I could teach you a small new thing! :p
haha yeah thanks. I like your guides, very nice instructions. I came back to PD after a long pause; finished all stealth heists on DSOD, am nearing 1000 achievements. No idea how to play on loud DS, it's kinda overkill for my taste. Usually play Mayhem with grinder, but DS kinda doesn't cut it.
@@Maxmilian666 Thank you very much! Happy to hear that :) Personally I enjoy stealth a lot more than loud (I never really play loud...), that's why my content focuses only on that :p Good luck with that push to 1,000!
Thx for the work! I want do add another possibility to solve the puzzle: 1. Take a piece of paper with these math squares on it. The one you used in math lessons at school :) 2. Take a pencil and draw the 6x9 field of the puzzle on the paper (I just drawed the two lines left and right, but: do it the way you like it!) 3. Start the puzzle and draw the pattern on your prepared field on your paper: just draw the line for the right way from bottom to top 4. Follow your drawn line and grab the diamond 5. Turn yout sheet of paper by 180 degrees, so that the bottom is now on the top and the top on the bottom 6. Take your way back by watching your drawn line It worked fine for me because - don't ask me why - it was hard for me to see on which plates I stepped on, when I made my way back. I hope this will help some of you guys!
That's a very interesting possibility, Rüdiger! As long as you have the paper on hand, it should work quite well. As for following the path backwards, it's all about practice! With the limited timer to go back and forth (30s) it's definitely worth practicing to be able to spot the tiles that have been pushed down.
@@Marcmb Hey there! Yes, I have practiced for a while and it feels much better now. Especially, because you can start the puzzle as many times as you want until you have the path you feel comfortable with :)
Congrats on that first clear, Raccoon Shinobi! It's a really fun heist, and I especially love the puzzle (easily my favorite one in the entire game). Maybe the guide can be useful to optimize a few small details, but either way, hope you enjoyed the video! :)
one question: how many time you spend in-game to all the random spawns or events. it look like you be there for a long time, oh yeah, THANKS, now i will complete the only heist i never complete in stealth.
Hey SANTIAGO! Most of the random events, or random spawns, I'm already familiar with after having played the heist so many times. It still takes a while to restart to get screenshots of everything, but luckily when I start making a video I already have a plan for what I'm going to show :p And good luck with the heist, it's a really fun one! :)
Oops, missed opportunity! I didn't realize at all that we were so close :D FeelsBadMan ... I should've done a speed-up at at x2.95 speed rather than x3.00!
@@cloaker2813 Yeah! I'm pretty sure that's what they meant :) For some reason, the video length shows up as 13:33 while loading, but 13:32 when it's done loading! Very strange :D
Thanks Joey! I like making this type of video because it allows me to explain a few aspects of a given heist in depth, which can be useful for players learning, and for veterans to optimize their runs slightly :) Glad you liked it!
Hey Snowflakepanda! That's a very good theory :p I don't really like loud, so that's quite accurate! Most loud heists I've only done once for the DSOD mask, and that's it :p
@@snowflakepanda8131 I have to say however, that there's of course nothing wrong with loud gameplay :) Many players enjoy it, but I prefer stealth a lot more!
Thank you Eye! I may consider doing loud guides in the future too, they are entertaining in their own way... although I still have a few stealth heists to go, before we get to that point!!
hey man i love your vids. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for the tutorials, I was getting back into the game and these really helped me THANK YOU!
Hey ProStreet Krisspykreme! Thanks a lot for the very kind feedback :) Happy to hear that the tutorials are helping, definitely makes me want to make more of these videos! Thank you for watching, and glad you're enjoying the content :)
This heist is great,both on loud and stealth,I enjoy the massive amount of enemies that spawn in the 3 rooms before the Diamond Room for loud and the straightforwardness of the stealth approach which requires just a bit of patience and map knowledge,the puzzle is probably the most annoying part especially on console where you just gotta trust your memory lol Nonetheless my preferred strategy is always just buying cams,cutter and bag man for the Diamond room,that way I can just do all the objectives,get in the room,kill the 4 guards and then get some additional loot as well (idc about money ahah I have enough of that) It's definitely one of my go to stealth heists because it has only one important loot bag and if you get that then it's basically impossible to fail at the end oh yeahh
Hey Alex! I agree with most of your points :) Except that I would 100% say that the puzzle is EASILY the best part! I just love it, very entertaining puzzle especially when you don't use the chat to help :p I'm not much of a loud player, but I see other heisters playing it (on Twitch/TH-cam) and the map does feel great with all the spawn points close to the player's location. My preferred approach is also the cams, and then cutter+bag man, however when I'm not soloing the heist I always give something up in order to buy the thermite for my crew members :(
Currently camping behind the big boy security box on a completely blind first try run. I was fine sneaking around but those tiles are sussss thanks for the tutorial
@@Marcmb somehow guards got alerted but i ended up pulling it off a few tries later, the heist has a nice flow to it but havent tried getting all the loot yet so that could add some difficulty
@@itsv1p3r If you completed it eventually that's all that matters :D Going for all loot is really nice for difficulty or for XP. It's basically the perfect thing to do while waiting for the timelocks!
@@Marcmb 🥶 i usually wait until i have the main loot secured before i grab secondary loot. theres efficiency loss, but i can always throw an ecm down and bail with the loot i have if i get run up on at that point. But once i get more used to the routes and flow I’ll definitely keep that in mind, just got into the game again about 2 weeks ago and your vids have been incredibly helpful!
These tutorials are really helpful, I’ve been stuck doing high crime sprees for fun and doing basic stealth heist ex: shadow raid and first world. I’ve now been able to solo, The diamond, Big oil and golden grin because of your videos man. Maybe you can do an in-depth of hoxton revenge?
Thanks a lot PersonPlays! Happy to know that the tutorials are being useful, and congratulations on soloing those three! Hoxton Revenge is one of my favorite stealth heists, so I'll be doing an in-depth guide in the future, for sure! However, you're the first viewer to ever request it (don't know why :( ) so at the moment it has the lowest spot in the list... I'll definitely enjoy making a video about it though, so thanks for the suggestion! Also, it's not an in-depth guide, but if you're interested I have a video about jumping the fence using the trees, skipping the RNG objective of searching for the unguarded gate/broken fence/rocks... th-cam.com/video/tfqnjab_SJY/w-d-xo.html
@@Marcmb What do you think of the Hoxton breakout trailer? My favorite scene is where Hoxton says: Look at this! I'm rich. It's Payday fellas! I said it's fuckin' Payday motherfuc-
@@cloaker2813 I love the entire trailer honestly, the amount of effort that they put into those trailers definitely shows that they care a lot about their game. But if I had to pick one scene, it would probably be the same one that you mentioned: when he says the words that are supposed to signal the crew on the other side of the wall, but then the guards escorting Hoxton (and Hoxton himself) look confused because there's no reaction, and as he's repeating his words the wall suddenly blows up :) Great scene!
@@CrowLovesYou Awesome! It's one of my oldest PAYDAY 2 videos, so I didn't think you would've seen it yet :p Glad to hear that you had already seen it!
It took me 40 attemps to realise that the diamond room has a puzzle. I was so annoyed and mad for losing too many times in Stealth that I didn't notice xd
They added that goddamn camping guard at the entrance doors so it's nearly impossible to get into the building while having all 4 pagers without thermite :(
Hey Enio! Unfortunately it's only a 36.25% chance for the door to be guarded, I wouldn't mind if it was 100% :p mainly because with my strategy you can always get in, ignoring that guard :D And screw the thermite 😡 I hate that asset :D
@@NBrin Hey NickBrin! Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification because you forgot the @ when typing my name. As @sidekic1109 mentioned, I believe it's a waste of favors: the main entrance is faster, and doesn't require favors. Personally I would rather get the bag man and the glass cutter, and steal additional loot to make the heist more entertaining. Plus I don't enjoy the thermite animation (very bright), or the fact that you need to slowly open the window after burning through the grate. Overall I just don't like that entrance method, but that's just my personal opinion due to my playstyle :p
Yet another great video Marc!! Keep up the good work! I’m curious, do you know what happens if you flush too many paintings on art gallery/framing frame day 1?
Thank you Williams, very kind of you! It's been very long since I did that for the achievement, but I think you can only flush one? I don't remember, to be honest...
Hey Mateo! I feel like they are very similar, but some people think in a clearer/faster way when reading numbers, and for others it works better reading the inputs directly (W / A / D). It definitely changes a lot from person to person, for very complicated reasons :p
@@Marcmb I just tried it out and the numbers work better for me. But I also tried out the front door and that was way better than the thermite. Thanks for that!
Thanks a lot Sky! Glad that you're enjoying the content :) Quick question: what do you mean exactly with "4 pagers"? Everyone has 4 pagers by default in all stealth heists: after answering the 5th, the alarm goes off. So what's your question exactly? Sorry if I misunderstood!
Haha thank you Chaos Star, glad you're enjoying the content! I have some more ideas for stealthing loud heists, but I think Reservoir Dogs is one of those where the assault is already starting by the time you start the heist :p
Yes! And not just the one at the entrance, but also the one at the top of the stairs (5:40 in the video). And there also used to be one in the room under construction, but that was removed with the relese of the "Historical Pack DLC", do you have any idea if that one is still around? Sadly I didn't bother with loot because I wanted to make a guide for simply completing the heist (emphasis on completing the puzzle solo), but I'll definitely be making an additional video in the future, and explain everything there is to know about looting the entire place, and the efficiency of that method for XP farming! :D
@@Lechuzero0 Yup! I'm pretty sure that the one at the top of the staircase, as well as the one at the entrance, are here to stay :) It's just a shame that they removed the 3rd one, which used to be in the room under construction :(
Thanks Greefoon, glad you liked it! :) Personally, this is EASILY one of my favorite heists. It's quick, it's simple, and it has the best puzzle in the game, especially when playing solo! But it's definitely a matter of personal tastes, as usual :)
Thank you very much! I'm considering doing voice-over for future videos, but I'm waiting for a heist where such an addition is clearly fitting! So I'm still thinking about it...
Hey Lo0! Hope you enjoyed this one :) Big Bank is definitely in my list of projects, but I want to do a video that combines solo strategy and duo strategy, and so it's gonna take a bit longer than other videos!
@@lo039 Thank you very much! I'll definitely have fun working on that project, I'm really enjoying making these videos teaching everything I know about stealth on different heists :) And the support from the community is absolutely great!
As a console player I just take pictures of the puzzle to memorize it then just go by 1, pause the game, go,pause the game, go. It works 50 percent of the time because I suck at memorization
Hey Dfuse! That's a very smart solution, which I didn't consider at all :p I play solo on Crime.net online, so I've never even used the pause feature. I have to say, that's a very smart way to deal with the time limit and the memorization at the same time, very good approach!
@@Marcmb thanks btw, what is your loud build? I know your channel is mostly stealth stuff but considering the things you know you probably have a loud build that defies the games code and makes overkill nerf your build
@@dfusedroops5345 Haha nooo, not at all! My loud builds are very basic, and tailored around my personal preferences. I'm a big fan of the Anarchist perk deck, and I also enjoy playing Sicario. However, if you're looking for fully optimized loud builds, with explanations about why you want each skill, and gameplay examples, I definitely recommend KevKild's Steam guide! He has many different loud builds, with many different perk decks and weapon combinations (plus he updates it very regularly), so I'm sure you can find something good there! :) You can check it out here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2141942312
@@order6667 Glad I could help you with that! Big Oil is a very entertaining heist. Looking for intel about the engine, and then figuring out which one is the right one, is very entertaining :)
I remember resetting the puzzle like 5 times and after that i got a straight line. I soloed this on death sentence one down. I kill the camera guard and the 3 guards nearest to the diamond. Bag man near the diamond room too. Then I get loot as much I can. If something goes wrong. ECM and run to the van.
Hey P3keteus! That's a very solid plan. I especially like getting as much loot as possible and then ECM rushing the escape if things go south, that's a very safe approach. I don't have any specific preference when killing the guards, so I just kill any of them if they spot me unexpectedly!
Kaiser Enoshima [カイザー江ノ島] not really it was a complete mess in the basement I had to kill both guards as I got trapped by both of them and more stuff went wrong that I can’t remember
Not bad Ascoolas, well done! As you can see from the video, I also like the ECM rush escape approach, very straightforward, faster, and you can just get out without worrying about anything :p
When i stealthed it i did everything perfect and ecm rushed to the end but i had little hp for yakuza so i died... altough i had 1 hostage so the AI brought me back, no stealth bonus tho
@@eeblan6504 Phew, that must've been a close one! It's funny how you have to be careful of that kind of thing while playing Yakuza, because a single shot after your armor is depleted will kill you :p I generally make sure to kill everyone (rather than run past them) when I'm at 1 HP, just in case! At least you had a hostage so you managed to salvage the situation, so well done and good job! Hope the guide helped :)
Going by the main entrance seems bad in multiplayer. Look at how high your detection went up even though you were the host (so no desync) and the guard was looking away + intimidated: your detection almost went up to 70%! In public lobbies, anyone not the host is almost definitely going to get spotted. Thermite is the most reliable option in public games
Hey Bok! That's a good point, but you have to keep in mind that the fact he's intimidated means there's no RNG about whether he's looking away, or in your direction: he's always facing forward. As a host with no desync, I could wait until he's looking away, before going in, and the detection would be much lower. By intimidating him, I let the detection go higher, but it's more reliable for clients: even in high ping lobbies, the same trick is going to work very reliably, unless the connection is completely awful (freezing every few seconds) -- then if you get unlucky, and your character freezes in place while going in, it's doomed to fail for sure (although with such a bad connection you wouldn't even stealth in that lobby, anyway!). So it's definitely very consistent, if you wanna try it out :p
i never once saw this heist pop up in crime.net lol i'm going to add this to the list of heists I want to solo DSOD complete once I get back into the game/start doing stealth again
Hey there, Awe Emperor of Chicken Killing! CrimeNET is very random so things like that can happen sometimes, yeah :p It's quite short, and very fun, and the tile challenge at the end is awesome. Easily one of my favorite solo heists!
So, here we are. One diamond richer. Thanx Marc, again, spot on. Took me 6 tries to get it right, and the fifth one was oh so close. I was just too slow off the pressure plates, so the alarms went off. Only one thing, and I don't know if it's the game or my mods, but the glass cutter isn't there even though I pay for it. Same as I can't find the camera access (I think it's called that) on Big Oil Day 2. Just nowhere to be found. The bags I "ordered" are where they should be, but no glass cutters here and no camera access on BO D2. Any clue?
Not bad Stefan! Six tries for a heist like this one (especially with the tiles at the end) is not bad at all. The glass cutter problem is quite strange: I just tried it ingame myself, and it works as expected. Are you sure you're clicking on it enough times? As you can see at 0:56, you have to click on glass cutter and then again on the "location" (even though there's only one option; and it's not really a physical location in the heist). That's probably the issue, I'm guessing! As for the Camera Access on Big Oil D2, that one has a similar system where you have to click twice on the preplanning (and it might have 2 spawn locations... both on the lower level of the house, but one at the front, and one at the back).
@@Marcmb Wow, now I feel dumb. I'll get back to you on both. I THINK at least on this one I tried clicking on the location once as well, but now... I'm not sure. I think I need another diamond right now.
@@Marcmb And now I feel even dumber. The Glass Cutter is auto-equipped, apparently? When I started (I'm paused right at the beginning right now as I write), it said I received it. So yeah... I'll do Big Oil after this.
@@Marcmb Ok, so I just want to point out I hate Big Oil Day 1. Took me 10 tries to get the bloody biker gang, but the last attempt was absolutely flawless. So, I bought the camera feed on Day 2, and I can't find it anywhere. It's not like FF Day 1/3 or The Diamond where you can select it on a map. This one's just buy assets straight up. I did try to click multiple times, etc. I have no use for it, and wouldn't buy it to use, but it's still interesting how I can't find it after buying it. Regarding The Diamond I stealthed it again, 4 tries, got the Diamond, 1 of 3 paintings and all but 1 artifact. Pretty decent. I like it. Oh, and the puzzle at the end. I got as lucky as you can. Straight line following the right side. Doesn't get any easier.
@@stesmi The cutter is definitely auto-equipped if you do all the preplanning clicks yup. I'll check Big Oil this week when I have some time, but I always ignore the assets there (thinking about it there's not even preplanning so it's just a regular asset) so I'm not too familiar with exceptions there.
Hello! Great guide for The Diamond! One of my favourite heist to stealth since it's fun and rewarding. If I may ask a question though, can you "stealth" goat simulator, like the exploit of "stealthing" Green Bridge and Undercover, since day 1 has people getting alarmed, is it a timed alarm, or does it depend on if someone called the cops?
Hey Umar! Glad you liked the guide, thank you! It's one of my favorites too, especially for the puzzle at the end. As for your Goat Simulator question, I've tried stealthing it in the past, but even if you ECM to block the cop calls, the alarm goes off anyway, so it definitely doesn't seem to be possible.
@@Marcmb well, what do you know, I've got the mask the day you replied! Goat Sim and Lab Rats was a true hell, same with the tedious stealthing of Border Crossing, but got the mask! Thanks for the luck :p, and wish you all the best doing more videos!
@@umarmustaqeem5920 Well done, congratulations! It's always a great feeling when you complete the last heist and finally get the mask :D Next objective: 100% achievements! :p
nice video, very helpful for me and my friend who screw up stealth heists pretty easily. but I do have one unrelated question, what mods do you use, and, any resources on how to install them?
Hey Mega Potato! Good to hear that the video will be useful :) My mods are essentially just my HUD mods: _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers._ Installing them is very easy, but if it's your first time, follow these instructions and you will have them installed in no time, and very easily! *Step-by-step written explanation (including download links)* · First of all, very importantly, in order for PAYDAY 2 mods to work you need to install some kind of mod-loading hook, SuperBLT being the most common one (it's a .dll file that you download and place in your PAYDAY 2 folder). Link to SuperBLT, with install instructions: superblt.znix.xyz/ *Step by step instructions to install SuperBLT* (1) Download the files in the link (follow instructions if you need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redistributable package (x86), which only applies for the first time you download this hook). (2) When you download the Latest Release DLL (WSOCK32.dll), place it in your PAYDAY 2 folder (Steam\steamapps\common\PAYDAY 2). To find this folder, you can go to your Steam library, right-click on PAYDAY 2, and then click Properties... > LOCAL FILES > BROWSE LOCAL FILES... which will open the directory in your file explorer. (3) Launch PAYDAY 2, and it will automatically prompt you to install the hook, automatically creating a "mods" folder in your PAYDAY 2 folder. (4) Close the game. (5) Now you can place any mods in your "mods" folder! I'll give you one example with the HUD. · Now for the actual HUD mods. You can get the "latest version" (it's a bit old, but still works) of PocoHud3 here: steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/1457328846183663967/ *Step by step instructions to install PocoHud3 (or any mod)* (1) All mods for PAYDAY 2 are downloaded as a .zip file, which contains just a folder inside. The folder name is usually just the name of the mod (in this case, the folder in the .zip is called "PocoHud3", and it contains files such as mod.txt, mod.lua, and others, depending on the specific mod). You want to unzip this folder into your "mods" folder that was just created in step (3) of the previous list of instructions. (2) Once the folder is in place, the mod has automatically been installed. (3) For any other mods that you want, repeat the download of the corresponding .zip, and place the corresponding folder inside the same "mods" folder. (4) That's it! Launch the game, and your mods will work! :D · _Additional PocoHud trackers_ download link: modworkshop.net/mod/26167 -- install instructions would be the same as the instructions for PocoHud3, just above :) That's about it! Very long response, but as you can see, installing mods is quite simple once you know how it works! If any of the steps are unclear, feel free to ask and I will clarify :)
@@Marcmb well, i honestly appreciate the long response, made everything pretty easy and simple as we speak, pocohud3 and the addons are installed, and I even told my friend to install them since he also wonders what mods you use (we used your counterfeit walkthrough and got 2 infamy tiers) Thank you for the explanation, have a great day!
@@meg0p You're welcome! I'm glad the explanation helped, and also glad to hear that you're having fun with the Counterfeit strategy! :) Good day to you too!
The “Only 1 can spawn pet set” is false, I’ve had multiple boxes in each of these different sets. Usually the most popular is Set 5, I always have 2 boxes side by side in that area Edit: I wrote this before I seen the part in the video where he mentions this
Yeah Brett! Set 5 is indeed the exception, as mentioned later in the video (I didn't want to cram too much information into that section, to make the video easier to watch). The rule applies with no exceptions to all other sets though! :)
i actualy used to think that the front entrance was not possible and that you need thermite paste because for me everytime i had a guard at the front entrance so i thought it was intended turns out i just have bad luck :]
Sounds like bad luck, yup! It's more likely for the front entrance to be unguarded, so it was definitely bad luck :p Plus, even if it's guarded, you can use the trick shown here to sneak past him 100% reliably, so I personally never go for thermite anymore :D
Haha, I wish I could teach more about my method for remembering the path, but that would've turned the video into something very different, and so I just quickly mentioned it and moved on to the chat-based approaches :p Glad you liked the video Nikolai, thank you as usual! :)
Hey Kyle! Good question, although my answer is very simple :p It's 100% because of personal preference: even though the Judge has an extra 1 concealment compared to the Loco, both weapons are enough to reach 3 Detection Rating, and both have enough damage to 1-shot an alerted 480 HP enemy. More importantly, the way the First Person model holds The Judge looks a little bit weird, considering how small the weapon looks. Thus, because I like the visuals of the Locomotive a lot more, and its reload style and magazine size are better for me, that's the one I use! :)
Hey yomero! Thank you very much, really appreciate it :) Firestarter is definitely in my list of projects, although I'm starting by doing more "intended stealth" heists, because I feel like those will be able to help more heisters, especially new players. But I'll definitely get to Firestarter too! :)
Hey Hozz! The game is still doing quite well on Steam (huge daily numbers), but as soon as PAYDAY 3 comes out in 2022-2023, it's gonna be awesome for sure! :D
@@blackT1E I would love that! All the PAYDAY 2 big heists remade as "Classics" for PAYDAY 3, and also all the classic PD:TH that were remade for PAYDAY 2, also remade for PAYDAY 3! I would easily pay for those as downloadable content, I'm sure it takes effort to remake them so I wouldn't even mind!
Hey Max! That is all displayed by my HUD mods: _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers._ The former is responsible for the ECM timers, as well as the floating timers for drills, time locks, hacks, pagers... (whenever they are present). It also includes other on-screen numbers such as: FPS meter, IRL clock, levels right next to player names, and some numbers for each player which are "Kills | Jokered enemies | Current downs | Maximum downs (before custody)". As for the latter, _Additional PocoHud trackers,_ I mainly use it for the 3.5s countdown before Sixth sense triggers, but it will also show you trackers for all kinds of things (any skill which has a duration or cooldown). Both are highly customizable so everything can be toggled on and off, depending on what you want!
Hey Roscuro! The important one is the secondary, which is the Locomotive 12G (shotgun). My "saw build" video in the description has a section where the weapon and all its attachments are shown. The primary is a CAR-4.
Hey Snowflakepanda! We don't have a Discord server at the moment, but we do have a Steam group if you're interested! Link is in the description, and it's a very nice place to find heisters for achievement hunting, stealth lobbies, random heists, etc! If you're interested, of course :)
I have a few questions : A. Is there only one box in "Set 2" which is the one near the stairs? B. You said that only 1 box can spawn per "Set", yet a few minutes later you said there's a 2.5% chance that two of those boxes in the middle spawn next to eachother - but according to your list they are in the same set, how?
Hey Guy Schwartzberg! Both very good questions. (A) There is indeed a single box in SET #2, so it's one of the best sets to check in every run because you only have to check one spawn to determine if the box has spawned or not (compared to SETS #1 or #4, which have different spawns distributed in a small area and so you have to cover more space to find the box, if it has spawned). (B) The double spawn in SET #5 is a very rare exception (very low chance), and it can only happen for that set: the rule still applies to all other sets. That's why I didn't mention it while explaining the list of spawns, because it's just a very rare event and it only applies to that set!
Hey NickBrin! There's definitely a couple of strategies that could be used for that, and it's a heist that I would really enjoy rushing. I haven't recorded any ECM rushes in a while though, but I would like to make more videos like that for sure! :D
Think on the console version theres a bug with the tiles as I tried the other day and on the first or second tile in it set the alarm off despite knowing for a fact I was on the right one. Suppose it could have been the time I was on death sentence but I dont think so like I say it happened on the first or second tile so surely it wouldn't have run out that quick
Hey again K M! If you're certain it was the 1st or 2nd tile, then it can't be due to timing (because 1st and 2nd light up instantly). Furthermore, if it was stealth, then we can also rule out the possibility of a dominated cop stepping on the wrong tiles. So that being the case, it may have been a console bug, yeah! I've never seen it on PC though!
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1 Do everything till the puzzle
2 Get a straight line on the first try
3 profit
Noo Sherman, nooo!! Whenever I get to the puzzle and it gives me a straight line, I wait 30 seconds so that I can reroll it, because otherwise I feel like I just got scammed -- investing 5 minutes of my time to get the easiest puzzle 😡 unnacceptable!! :D
@@Marcmb i mean it's free real estate :D (+ i don't think that this chamber can count as puzzle, because you just need to memorize the path and that's all, while at big oil its actually nice puzzle)
@@4rtstellar That's true yeah... it's not as much of a puzzle as the Big Oil engine problem, but it's still kind of a "puzzle", much like the common "jumping puzzles" in other games, which are just parkour courses that for some reason are called puzzles :p
@@Marcmb I love the engine puzzle on Big Oil, but I wish it was better explained to new players.
It's nothing like other heists
@@kirboderbo3988 the first 8 times i played big oil i just got mad over and over, and got ever more mad when the long guide was EveN MoRe complicated
Haven't watched the video YET, but I remember doing this and stepping on the wrong tile as I was leaving, may or may not have alt f4ed haha!
Ouch! Completely understandable Alt+F4 right there, that's a true FeelsBadMan :p
Stepping on the wrong tile on your way to The Diamond is a bit frustrating, but doing so on your way back is something else! Hahaha :D
I have done that too, many times. But sometimes I'd jump over a tile and it would still get pressed.
That happened to me twice in a row I'm a freaking idiot lol
@@xTRTSCx ive stopped jumping over them its too unpredictable
I’m doing it right now, and I did exactly the same thing. I was able to get out somehow due to getting downed by a minigun dozer inside of the extraction box.
honestly, i think that the tile puzzle is what prevents most people from doing this in stealth because of several reasons. the tiles all blend in with each other in such a dimly lit room. the circuit board is timed meaning you can't just take your time with it. and trying to remember which tiles you need to step on is difficult when the route is so complicated.
That might be the case, yeah! The puzzle is very easy to fail until you get a good strategy, and the straightforward approach of "simply memorizing the path" can be complicated sometimes. Although personally the puzzle is my favorite part of the heist, because I like memorizing the path and running for it :D
30 fuckin’ seconds! more like 30 milliseconds to me
About the dimly lit part. I have a second set of my stealth loadout with lasers and flashlights just for this heist
Not to mention the countdown timer starts when you interact with the box and not when the path is finished lighting up. So the longer the path is, the less time you have to run through it (unless you have a 2nd player guiding you as it lights up).
Also, I don’t know how people can just sprint through it. Everytime I try I end up clipping a corner and sounding the alarm. My first dsod of this I clipped a corner and let the ai guard me until escape arrived.
It's been 3 years since I played and have well over 1000 hours in it. Yet the LEVEL OF EFFORT, You showed everything. And show alternatives and so much more.
Man. That's a commitment to thorough high quality content.
I enjoy remembering the game through these videos
You deserve so much love marcmb❤️💗😘
Hey gregheffly! Glad you're enjoying the videos as a PAYDAY veteran, it's really great to read that you're remembering your good times even after not playing for a long while :)
I really enjoy making these videos, going in-depth into many different details of the heist, so I'm glad you enjoy that aspect of the videos! Really appreciate it a lot. Thank you for watching! :)
Missed section on the last part. Every stealthers know you must activates ECM feedback or throw a grenade before stepping into the escape zone for showing your *MAD* skill to those pathetic guards
Hey Enrico! I used to that all the time, but it's a skill that I've lost after too much ECM rushing :D Nowadays, my approach when ECM rushing is to kill all guards, and tie all civs, so even if I activate the feedback at the very end, no one notices :p
For this reason, I've completely forgotten about this, and I don't do it anymore :D It would've been fitting for this quick rush though!
I cant see the bottom of my phone screen so I'm replyinggggggg
And agian
I've just downloaded PD2 again after 5 years(yes, last time I played was in 2015). Everything looks new and weird, I forgot literally every tips and tricks I used to know. Just found your channel last week, this kind of videos really help me out getting in touch again, thanks a lot.
Hey Projectnsight! Happy to hear that :) That's quite a long time, so I'm sure you'll have fun rediscovering the game, and checking all the new content! Have fun with your return to the game, and thanks for enjoying the content! :D
@@Marcmb can you give me link&instruction on how to install pocohud?
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I download it from there tiny.cc/mbwosz and the video instruction said I need to extract the zip into PD2 main folder. I did that but nothing happened, tried to put it into blt's mod folder still nothing. Help pls
@@Marcmb nevermind, I was informed that the "original" link is severely outdated and I got the working mod now. Can you instead give recommended useful mods?
@@ksuma715 Hey Projectnsight! I've never downloaded any mods from a Dropbox link so that one may indeed be completely outdated. My HUD mods are actually a combination of _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers,_ so if you want to install those, here's the download links and the install instructions that you requested on your previous comment --
*Step-by-step written explanation (including download links)*
· First of all, very importantly, in order for PAYDAY 2 mods to work you need to install some kind of mod-loading hook, SuperBLT being the most common one (it's a .dll file that you download and place in your PAYDAY 2 folder). Link to SuperBLT, with install instructions: superblt.znix.xyz/
*Step by step instructions to install SuperBLT*
(1) Download the files in the link (follow instructions if you need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redistributable package (x86), which only applies for the first time you download this hook).
(2) When you download the Latest Release DLL (WSOCK32.dll), place it in your PAYDAY 2 folder (Steam\steamapps\common\PAYDAY 2). To find this folder, you can go to your Steam library, right-click on PAYDAY 2, and then click Properties... > LOCAL FILES > BROWSE LOCAL FILES... which will open the directory in your file explorer.
(3) Launch PAYDAY 2, and it will automatically prompt you to install the hook, automatically creating a "mods" folder in your PAYDAY 2 folder.
(4) Close the game.
(5) Now you can place any mods in your "mods" folder! I'll give you one example with the HUD.
· Now for the actual HUD mods. You can get the "latest version" (it's a bit old, but still works) of PocoHud3 here: steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/1457328846183663967/
*Step by step instructions to install PocoHud3 (or any mod)*
(1) All mods for PAYDAY 2 are downloaded as a .zip file, which contains just a folder inside. The folder name is usually just the name of the mod (in this case, the folder in the .zip is called "PocoHud3", and it contains files such as mod.txt, mod.lua, and others, depending on the specific mod). You want to unzip this folder into your "mods" folder that was just created in step (3) of the previous list of instructions.
(2) Once the folder is in place, the mod has automatically been installed.
(3) For any other mods that you want, repeat the download of the corresponding .zip, and place the corresponding folder inside the same "mods" folder.
(4) That's it! Launch the game, and your mods will work! :D
· _Additional PocoHud trackers_ download link: modworkshop.net/mod/26167 -- install instructions would be the same as the instructions for PocoHud3, just above :)
That's about it! Very long response, but as you can see, installing mods is quite simple once you know how it works! If any of the steps are unclear, feel free to ask and I will clarify :)
@@Marcmb thank you, thank you, thank you. I got another link before, but the pocohud from that other one was indeed works but it make my game crash whenever the stealth got loud. The link you gave me doesnt have the going loud crash. Again thanks.
"the most fun part of this is the puzzle" actually every time i've done this, the puzzle has always been the least fun part, unless you are specifically being sarcastic in text here-.
Noo! Not sarcastic at all actually! I honestly love the puzzle, it's very unique and very engaging in my opinion. As I mentioned in response to another comment, whenever I get a boring path like a straight line I always wait so I can reroll it and get a more interesting one :D
Thanks for watching Allan, and hope you enjoyed the video! :)
thats what i like about these videos is you always learn something new about the map and its something so helpful.
Thanks Khanjalli, glad that you think so! That's exactly the reason why I like making them so much: I can explain many different things in great detail, which hopefully can be useful even for experienced players to optimize their runs just a tiny bit :)
The fact that it’s so in depth along with the time stamps just makes these videos nice to watch keep up the good work:)
Thank you Great Ac, I appreciate that a lot! Glad you're enjoying the content, and I'll do my best to keep it up :)
I like how you reply to your comments. it's very kind.
Hey FrostCutter! Replying to the comments is easily the best part of uploading my content, so I'm just thankful that I get so many nice comments! :D
@@Marcmb I would do the same if I actually had viewers
@@FrostCutter It's a weird cycle, for sure... I'm certain that I would do less content if I didn't get this much feedback, but I'm no TH-cam expert so I have no idea of how the cycle starts!
Nice video Marcmb, you are one of the smartest payday 2 player i've seen, i was able to complete this mission on DS/OD without going thru the lower difficulty because of this video. Thanks a lot.
Happy to hear that J C, and thank you for the kind words! :D
I'm glad the guide is being useful, and good job completing the heist directly on the highest difficulty, well done!
@@Marcmb thank you...keep on producing good and quality videos :)
@@JC-xt4pr I'll do my best to keep it up! Glad you're enjoying the content :)
@@Marcmb yes absolutely, really helpful for both new and infamy players...
@@JC-xt4pr Awesome! That's exactly what I was hoping for, so I'm very happy to hear that! Thank you! :)
I don't know if I could find the 4 circuit box without the video. Keep up the good work of the Ultimate Stealth Guide,Marcmb!
Thank you very much Ed, glad I was able to help! Will definitely do my best to keep it up :)
Played this heist a couple of times and didnt even notice the tiles u already stepped on stay marked! OMG. How often I was failing it when I was running back in a complete hurry only relying on my wasted memory. Thanks bro! Knowing this will make this heist a lot more enjoyable
Oooh very nice! Happy to hear that knowledge will help :) Good luck in your upcoming runs! Definitely my favorite "heist puzzle" when playing solo.
I didn't know that the puzzle makes progressively more easier as you interact with it,it is really nice to know
That's right adrian! If you keep interacting with it over and over, after a few minutes it will only be able to give you straight lines :)
I prefer the harder paths though, personally :p
Your attention to detail when listing every possible spawn with a backup screenshot is very much appreciated. It would be nice if you did one for all the possible device spawns in Framing Frame Day 3 too.
Thank you Bok! Glad you liked that :)
I'm working on a similar guide for Framing Frame (it's a bit long, because I'm combining DAY1 and DAY3 into a single video, with just a few notes regarding DAY2), and it will definitely include all the spawns for the different devices, with screenshots of them, and my usual path to check all of them! Hopefully it will be a good video :)
I did this heist for more than 50 times and you still made me learn so many new things. That intimidation trick will come in handy :D
Awesome! Glad I could teach you a couple of new things :D
I actually didn't know a lot about the intimidation trick until recently, but a very kind viewer (named Rex) told me about it, and explained how it disables their idle animations, so they can never look side to side (thus their frontal view is centered constantly), which can be very helpful :)
I love seeing all these videos as you walk through it step by step and go into detail. I'm not sure if it would work all that well for a video but it would be cool to then see a normal run of the mission at the end without pauses to show all the tips and tricks in one.
Ooh that's a good idea, thank you JEGG!
Especially for the harder heists, I think it would help quite a bit to see a full gameplay without interruptions, to see how all the tips and tricks apply in a real run. Very good suggestion, I'll see what I can do for future heists!
Its really cool to see that your channel is finally taking off, im getting addicted to your vids o_o
Hey N0th1ng2Do! I appreciate that a lot, glad you're enjoying the content! :D
And the channel has indeed been growing a lot lately, I'm very happy that so many heisters are liking the videos!
I think I know everything about a heist and then your guides always tell me at least one thing I don't know, these are helpful even for experienced players. That tip for getting into the front entrance with the guard there I had no idea about, I'll be doing that next time instead of restarting the heist to get past.
Thank you very much, Adam! Happy to hear that my guides are able to teach you small new things, that's great :) And indeed, the entrance trick is a personal favorite of mine, as I hate the thermite entrance, and I don't like restarting until the front guard is not there!
Now I feel confident in getting the legendary "Cat Burglar" achievement, thank you for the guide!
That should be easy now, yeah! Good luck with it Traive, and if you have any questions to make it easier, don't hesitate to ask!
Thanks a lot, I hope your day goes well!
@@traive-alastor Thank you for watching and for the nice comments! Good day to you too :)
So I am back to say, I got the Cat Burglar achievement! Thanks again!
@@traive-alastor Well done Traive! Glad that the guide helped, and congratulations on the achievement! :D
Impressive walk-through, well done!
Glad you liked it Glurgi, thank you!
YES I NEEDED SO MUCH HELP ON THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH
You're welcome, Snowflakepanda! Happy to hear that the video will be helpful to you :) If you have any further questions, feel free to ask! :D
Marcmb Can you make a video on breaking fed’s?
Marcmb wait nvm you already made one
@@snowflakepanda8131 Hey Snowflakepanda! I do indeed already have one on Breakin' Feds, one of my favorite stealth heists :) Hope that video is useful! If you have any questions, feel free to leave a comment on that video! It'll be much easier to find there, because "new comments" always trigger a notification, but responses to responses are trickier to find :p
Thank you for the electrical box tips, could not have done it without you
That's great to hear, Zman! Glad I was able to help :)
High production quality as always. Your videos are great! good job
Thanks Elcid for the very kind feedback! I appreciate that a lot :)
Great video! This map was a big letdown when it was released, probably because of high expectations set by Big Bank and Hotline Miami. Yet years later, it is actually not that bad. The level design is a bit too linear, but it also makes for a quick run and a fun puzzle. This map is also very fun in loud with the insane spawn rate but is actually one of the easiest to solo loud by kiting the cops.
Thanks bruce! I do remember that, yeah! Although I had already forgotten... Back when it was released, there were many complaints because of how quick the heist was: people complaining about the price tag, for a heist that was considered too short at the time...
Personally I've always been a big fan of the puzzle at the end, so I was OK with the heist duration and its price :)
1:43 the main door the be guarded
Aww very unfortunate typo. I do a lot of moving words around to ensure that all texts can fit neatly within 2 lines, so I probably misplaced one of the words during that, oops...
Very detailled research again very nice. I like the Trick with the guard standing in front of the gate. I used this trick with the mendozas in firestarter day 1 to stealth and I Think your use here was well used. Keep up the work!
Thanks Rabinowitz! Glad that you liked this stealth guide too :) I really enjoy making these, and explaining many different details in-depth.
The intimidation trick can indeed be very useful in some situations. Glad you liked that, thank you! :)
Hey can you do a guide on "Diamond Heist" the Classic one. I should be able to beat but its too hard for me for some reason!
Hey BJC! The classic Diamond Heist (Garnet diamond) is in my list of things to do, although it's not currently in the schedule so I'm not sure when it will be released!!
That one takes patience.
Marcmb Great
lil tip if you have trouble kill the son. get the boxes, and if the party lets out early restart
or have a hell of a time trying to get around a billion civies
and the pathing to the escape can be difficult usally youd want to restart till you get a spawn at second flloor next to the gym
I love your vids. You’re the main reason why I started playing payday again. Keep up the good work❤️
Thank you Motorshow! I'm very happy to hear that, much appreciated :)
Have fun with your return to PAYDAY 2, and look forward to Update 200! No one knows when it will arrive, or what it will bring, but I can't wait for the day it happens! :D
Tbh diamond is pretty ez, just hack the boxes and get 2 kc’s I just always mess up the ending part in the diamond room, now I can remember the trick and do it way easier
Hey Blonde! Very easy, and very quick; but that's what makes it so good! The best part of the heist is definitely the ending though, you can use one of the chat-based approaches to make it easy, or you can memorize the path to make it slightly more interesting! :D
looking good Blonde
Ayy another super straightforward heist--No speedrunning tips here but again very thorough. Once you master this heist, it becomes a good XP farm. Anyways, ty for the content~
Thank you Mot! It's decent for solo XP farming, and also one of the most entertaining heists because of how engaging the puzzle is! This used to be my most played heist during the Death Wish days :) I loved it then, and I still love it now!
Same~ there’s something about this heist that makes me enjoy it both loud and stealth so much
@@Mot-dh5sx Absolutely agree! I think it's a combination of the interesting puzzle, and also how cool the loot room looks... just a very fun heist to play over and over :D
You are my new greatest Payday 2 player
Thanks a lot ARIF, I really appreciate that! :) Glad you're enjoying the content!
Now that this video is out, I am sad that I did do The Diamond on dsod stealth some time ago. I love those videos since they provide so much information and tips! Welp, time for me to go back and stealth it again :)
Hey Jakub! Happy to hear that you're enjoying the video even though you've already completed the heist :) Hopefully you can learn a few new small things, and your next runs will be even more enjoyable, or slightly more optimized! :D
Protip for stealth: Guards
There are different kinds of guards and their Voice line can pretty much tell you if they want you to take the easy way or straight up fuck you up
Voice lines (Easy way):
"FREEZE!!"
"NO SUDDEN MOVE!!"
"STOP IT!!"
Voice Lines (The one that can fuck you up)
"It's the PAYDAY GANG!!"
"3 Assaliance confirmed"
"There are at least 3 of them"
Guards that can take the easy way
1. Mall guards (Pager)
2. Street cops
3. Agents (Pager)
4. Murky waters Logistic Mercenary (Pager)
5. Murky waters Elite Federal Agents (Pager)
Guards that can fuck you up
1. Gangsters
2. Soza Cartel Members
3. Soza Private Security (Pager)
4. Mendoza Cartel Members
5. Overkill Mc bikers
6. Cobra gang members [Backstabed/Provoked]
Very complete list Kaiser, good job!
To add a little detail to this, your first list of guard types will trigger the pacifist voice line if it's the first time they see you, but if your arrest is on cooldown (less than 4 minutes since your last detection) then they will go straight to aggressive behavior :p
Which ones are the street cops?
@@finmueller7827 Hmm I'm pretty sure those would be like the Counterfeit cops, for example... very similar to the Mallcrasher cops, but slightly different outfits... not sure though, since I didn't make the list :)
@@Marcmb I thought they had pagers though, or is it only certain ones?
@@finmueller7827 Good question! As a general rule, cops dressed in blue (Mallcrasher cops outside, blue cops on Election Day day 2, blue cops on Counterfeit...) do not have pagers, so they can safely be killed without any repercussions :)
Your videos are awesome! You're really helping me out with those videos. Keep up the good work mate!
Thanks a lot Alpyasoo! Happy to hear that the videos are being useful :) I'll do my best to keep it up!
If only your videos existed when I played pd2 for the first time. It took me more than 2 hours!!
Hey Niicko! I'm happy that you think so, thank you! Imagining this guide being useful for new players is very satisfying! Hope you enjoyed the video :)
You post really good videos idk how you don’t have more subs
Hey Cammy! The channel has grown A LOT since I started, so I'm very happy to be here :D
Glad you're enjoying the content, and thank you for watching! :)
An amazing guide as always :D
Also! Some good news and some bad news.
Good News - I finally beat Car Shop solo with my potato-level processing power laptop (although saying this is offensive to potatoes... pretty sure they have *more* processing power). While someone did offer to help, I'm extremely stubborn since I was able to see the end on one of my failed runs and new I would be able to complete it if I kept trying.
Bad News - since I'm following the story (due to boredom and the fact that when I played on Xbox the story was only half done), it wasn't long until I reached another roadblock heist. Yacht Heist. While I understand the mechanics well enough with the laptop clues... the problem is just that I'm terrible at Payday stealth. Maybe I'll be inspired enough at some point to sit down and run the heist a hundred times until I complete it.
Hey Alex! Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed this one :)
Car Shop becomes a lot trickier with low FPS, so that's definitely quite an achievement -- congratulations!
As for Yacht Heist, I definitely recommend memorizing the general layout of the yacht, that helps a lot. (for example, there are some very easy money locations to remember, like the life boats which are at the front of the boat, the bookshelves which are always at the top floor... but there are some that are often more confusing, like the four rooms, which are in the back area of the main deck, or the wine/cigars which are beyond the section with the rooms...)
Another great tip is to practice the end so that you can do it while keeping the 2 guards alive. If you have 4 pagers to use outside of that room, the whole heist will be very easy :D
@@Marcmb I managed to do most of the Yacht Heist fairly easily. My biggest problem was just the servers at the end (reached the objective that tells me to press the control button or whatever it was). Where my limited skill meant I had no knowledge of when I should move to avoid being seen. So I ended up being spotted and in my panic, dominated the guard in front of the other one and forgot I had ECMs which probably would have just let me finish with a short ECM rush.
@@SekiYuriDEV Ooh, you were very close then! I don't think the buttons have a timer, so you can take your time pressing the buttons. Keep the two guards in that room marked at all times, and use the 4 big pillars as cover. Should be quite easy with a clear idea in mind! :D
@@Marcmb It didn't seem like the button had a timer (I sat by the doors leading to where the AI sat for at least 5 minutes waiting for the guards to move to places I could sneak by) and Bain never said anything about running out of time. And I had managed to reach that server room with 1 pager left. If I ~did~ have enough skill or luck to get rid of one of the guards I probably would have succeeded with no problem.
Edit: Bain not Vain
@@SekiYuriDEV I see, I see... it definitely sounds like you were already very close, then. If you only had 1 pager, there are some situations where the guards move away from the middle, and go either to the corners, or behind the walls. If you kill them there, you should be able to answer the pager and hide the body before the other guard notices! :)
Dude after many years this heist was out and many times I completed it, I never knew there were box spawns in the courtyard :D
Hey Maxmilian! It's one of my favorite "sets" of spawns, because I use it as a very safe way to move around the building, and if there's a box I quickly get it on my way to the next one :p
Very small detail, but I'm glad I could teach you a small new thing! :p
haha yeah thanks. I like your guides, very nice instructions. I came back to PD after a long pause; finished all stealth heists on DSOD, am nearing 1000 achievements. No idea how to play on loud DS, it's kinda overkill for my taste. Usually play Mayhem with grinder, but DS kinda doesn't cut it.
@@Maxmilian666 Thank you very much! Happy to hear that :)
Personally I enjoy stealth a lot more than loud (I never really play loud...), that's why my content focuses only on that :p
Good luck with that push to 1,000!
This video is amazing, great work dude.
Much appreciated Ovi, glad you liked it! :)
Thx for the work! I want do add another possibility to solve the puzzle:
1. Take a piece of paper with these math squares on it. The one you used in math lessons at school :)
2. Take a pencil and draw the 6x9 field of the puzzle on the paper (I just drawed the two lines left and right, but: do it the way you like it!)
3. Start the puzzle and draw the pattern on your prepared field on your paper: just draw the line for the right way from bottom to top
4. Follow your drawn line and grab the diamond
5. Turn yout sheet of paper by 180 degrees, so that the bottom is now on the top and the top on the bottom
6. Take your way back by watching your drawn line
It worked fine for me because - don't ask me why - it was hard for me to see on which plates I stepped on, when I made my way back. I hope this will help some of you guys!
That's a very interesting possibility, Rüdiger! As long as you have the paper on hand, it should work quite well. As for following the path backwards, it's all about practice! With the limited timer to go back and forth (30s) it's definitely worth practicing to be able to spot the tiles that have been pushed down.
@@Marcmb Hey there! Yes, I have practiced for a while and it feels much better now. Especially, because you can start the puzzle as many times as you want until you have the path you feel comfortable with :)
i was so confused in this heist thanks bro!
Thank you Squwancher! Hopefully everything is less confusing now :) If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
Amazing content as always! Keep it up man!
Thanks a lot Oscar, very kind of you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Funnily enough, I managed to successfully stealth this for the first time yesterday, probably could have used this guide tho, lol
Congrats on that first clear, Raccoon Shinobi! It's a really fun heist, and I especially love the puzzle (easily my favorite one in the entire game). Maybe the guide can be useful to optimize a few small details, but either way, hope you enjoyed the video! :)
one question: how many time you spend in-game to all the random spawns or events. it look like you be there for a long time, oh yeah, THANKS, now i will complete the only heist i never complete in stealth.
Hey SANTIAGO! Most of the random events, or random spawns, I'm already familiar with after having played the heist so many times. It still takes a while to restart to get screenshots of everything, but luckily when I start making a video I already have a plan for what I'm going to show :p
And good luck with the heist, it's a really fun one! :)
Nice video, if only it was 5 seconds longer..
Oops, missed opportunity! I didn't realize at all that we were so close :D FeelsBadMan ... I should've done a speed-up at at x2.95 speed rather than x3.00!
@@Marcmb I would say 4 secs because 1337.
@@cloaker2813 Yeah! I'm pretty sure that's what they meant :) For some reason, the video length shows up as 13:33 while loading, but 13:32 when it's done loading! Very strange :D
I love the detail in this guide :D
Thanks Joey! I like making this type of video because it allows me to explain a few aspects of a given heist in depth, which can be useful for players learning, and for veterans to optimize their runs slightly :) Glad you liked it!
Legend has it he has never done a heist loud
Hey Snowflakepanda! That's a very good theory :p I don't really like loud, so that's quite accurate! Most loud heists I've only done once for the DSOD mask, and that's it :p
Marcmb same only loud ones i do is the golden grin casino
@@snowflakepanda8131 I have to say however, that there's of course nothing wrong with loud gameplay :) Many players enjoy it, but I prefer stealth a lot more!
Marcmb i prefer stealth its i only do loud heist only loud and golden grin casino
Did this with friends for 3 hours and failed.Got the room 4 times always went wrong.this video will finally help us complete the heist.thanks
Happy to hear that Kishern! Good luck with your future attempts :) And if you have any questions, let me know!
Completed the heist, accidentally touched the diamond, got cursed
Can't escape The Diamond curse :p the Dentist will be coming for you shortly...
very good guide, you should make guides on loud heists since i feel like you did a guide on every stealth heist.
Thank you Eye! I may consider doing loud guides in the future too, they are entertaining in their own way... although I still have a few stealth heists to go, before we get to that point!!
hey man i love your vids. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for the tutorials, I was getting back into the game and these really helped me THANK YOU!
Hey ProStreet Krisspykreme! Thanks a lot for the very kind feedback :) Happy to hear that the tutorials are helping, definitely makes me want to make more of these videos!
Thank you for watching, and glad you're enjoying the content :)
This heist is great,both on loud and stealth,I enjoy the massive amount of enemies that spawn in the 3 rooms before the Diamond Room for loud and the straightforwardness of the stealth approach which requires just a bit of patience and map knowledge,the puzzle is probably the most annoying part especially on console where you just gotta trust your memory lol
Nonetheless my preferred strategy is always just buying cams,cutter and bag man for the Diamond room,that way I can just do all the objectives,get in the room,kill the 4 guards and then get some additional loot as well (idc about money ahah I have enough of that)
It's definitely one of my go to stealth heists because it has only one important loot bag and if you get that then it's basically impossible to fail at the end oh yeahh
Hey Alex! I agree with most of your points :) Except that I would 100% say that the puzzle is EASILY the best part! I just love it, very entertaining puzzle especially when you don't use the chat to help :p
I'm not much of a loud player, but I see other heisters playing it (on Twitch/TH-cam) and the map does feel great with all the spawn points close to the player's location.
My preferred approach is also the cams, and then cutter+bag man, however when I'm not soloing the heist I always give something up in order to buy the thermite for my crew members :(
Currently camping behind the big boy security box on a completely blind first try run. I was fine sneaking around but those tiles are sussss thanks for the tutorial
After reading these comments i might just stay here forever loll
Hahah! Hopefully it went well, itsv1p3r! I don't see an update from your comments, but hopefully you got an easy path eventually :p
@@Marcmb somehow guards got alerted but i ended up pulling it off a few tries later, the heist has a nice flow to it but havent tried getting all the loot yet so that could add some difficulty
@@itsv1p3r If you completed it eventually that's all that matters :D
Going for all loot is really nice for difficulty or for XP. It's basically the perfect thing to do while waiting for the timelocks!
@@Marcmb 🥶 i usually wait until i have the main loot secured before i grab secondary loot. theres efficiency loss, but i can always throw an ecm down and bail with the loot i have if i get run up on at that point. But once i get more used to the routes and flow I’ll definitely keep that in mind, just got into the game again about 2 weeks ago and your vids have been incredibly helpful!
Dude I’ve been trying to do this lately thank you!
Hey Lucas, perfect timing then! Hopefully the guide will be helpful, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask! :)
I already knew this was gonna be hard for me when I couldn't find a way inside on my own
These tutorials are really helpful, I’ve been stuck doing high crime sprees for fun and doing basic stealth heist ex: shadow raid and first world. I’ve now been able to solo, The diamond, Big oil and golden grin because of your videos man. Maybe you can do an in-depth of hoxton revenge?
Thanks a lot PersonPlays! Happy to know that the tutorials are being useful, and congratulations on soloing those three!
Hoxton Revenge is one of my favorite stealth heists, so I'll be doing an in-depth guide in the future, for sure! However, you're the first viewer to ever request it (don't know why :( ) so at the moment it has the lowest spot in the list... I'll definitely enjoy making a video about it though, so thanks for the suggestion!
Also, it's not an in-depth guide, but if you're interested I have a video about jumping the fence using the trees, skipping the RNG objective of searching for the unguarded gate/broken fence/rocks... th-cam.com/video/tfqnjab_SJY/w-d-xo.html
@@Marcmb What do you think of the Hoxton breakout trailer? My favorite scene is where Hoxton says:
Look at this! I'm rich. It's Payday fellas! I said it's fuckin' Payday motherfuc-
@@cloaker2813 I love the entire trailer honestly, the amount of effort that they put into those trailers definitely shows that they care a lot about their game.
But if I had to pick one scene, it would probably be the same one that you mentioned: when he says the words that are supposed to signal the crew on the other side of the wall, but then the guards escorting Hoxton (and Hoxton himself) look confused because there's no reaction, and as he's repeating his words the wall suddenly blows up :) Great scene!
Marcmb hey thanks man and funny enough i already have watched the video :)
@@CrowLovesYou Awesome! It's one of my oldest PAYDAY 2 videos, so I didn't think you would've seen it yet :p Glad to hear that you had already seen it!
pretty thanks your stealth information everytime🥳
You're absolutely welcome! Glad my stealth videos are helpful :D
It took me 40 attemps to realise that the diamond room has a puzzle.
I was so annoyed and mad for losing too many times in Stealth that I didn't notice xd
Hahah ouch! That's a lot of tries that most certainly went south as soon as you reached the puzzle room :p
They added that goddamn camping guard at the entrance doors so it's nearly impossible to get into the building while having all 4 pagers without thermite :(
Hey Enio! Unfortunately it's only a 36.25% chance for the door to be guarded, I wouldn't mind if it was 100% :p mainly because with my strategy you can always get in, ignoring that guard :D
And screw the thermite 😡 I hate that asset :D
Marcmb why?
@@NBrin I guess he thinks it's a waste
@@NBrin Hey NickBrin! Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification because you forgot the @ when typing my name.
As @sidekic1109 mentioned, I believe it's a waste of favors: the main entrance is faster, and doesn't require favors. Personally I would rather get the bag man and the glass cutter, and steal additional loot to make the heist more entertaining.
Plus I don't enjoy the thermite animation (very bright), or the fact that you need to slowly open the window after burning through the grate. Overall I just don't like that entrance method, but that's just my personal opinion due to my playstyle :p
@Marcmb oh... okay thanks again )
Another amazing video!
Thanks a lot Tibby! Glad you liked it, much appreciated :)
I never thought the diemond would be easy like that but I might do it stealth from you
Glad the guide helped, luai! It is indeed a lot easier when you know what to do :) hope this helped!
Yeah it looks easy to play with it
@@Marcmb I'm now can do the big bank and I can do golden grin casino from you thank you very much for all your help
@@luai_egy1543 That is great! Very good progress, and glad to hear I've been able to help :D
@@Marcmb you will help me a lot with other missions but now I will try the diemond then I will go to any mission and thanks for all your help
Yet another great video Marc!! Keep up the good work! I’m curious, do you know what happens if you flush too many paintings on art gallery/framing frame day 1?
Thank you Williams, very kind of you!
It's been very long since I did that for the achievement, but I think you can only flush one? I don't remember, to be honest...
I used to use the 3rd method or something similar to it, but I'm gonna try out the second one and see if that's better
Hey Mateo! I feel like they are very similar, but some people think in a clearer/faster way when reading numbers, and for others it works better reading the inputs directly (W / A / D). It definitely changes a lot from person to person, for very complicated reasons :p
@@Marcmb I just tried it out and the numbers work better for me. But I also tried out the front door and that was way better than the thermite. Thanks for that!
@@youreprettygood1414 You're welcome! It's a very reliable process, and much better than wasting a pager every time a guard spawns there :D
Love the guides, always so much detail :D
But how do you get 4 pagers?? I've seen people have them but can't find a guide :|
Thanks a lot Sky! Glad that you're enjoying the content :)
Quick question: what do you mean exactly with "4 pagers"? Everyone has 4 pagers by default in all stealth heists: after answering the 5th, the alarm goes off. So what's your question exactly? Sorry if I misunderstood!
Can't wait for you to do a stealth guide for resevoir dogs heist.
Haha thank you Chaos Star, glad you're enjoying the content! I have some more ideas for stealthing loud heists, but I think Reservoir Dogs is one of those where the assault is already starting by the time you start the heist :p
Funny fact: You can actually grab the paint in the lobby as loot :)
Yes! And not just the one at the entrance, but also the one at the top of the stairs (5:40 in the video).
And there also used to be one in the room under construction, but that was removed with the relese of the "Historical Pack DLC", do you have any idea if that one is still around?
Sadly I didn't bother with loot because I wanted to make a guide for simply completing the heist (emphasis on completing the puzzle solo), but I'll definitely be making an additional video in the future, and explain everything there is to know about looting the entire place, and the efficiency of that method for XP farming! :D
@@Marcmb
Yeah, you can still grab that one on the stairs :0
@@Lechuzero0 Yup! I'm pretty sure that the one at the top of the staircase, as well as the one at the entrance, are here to stay :) It's just a shame that they removed the 3rd one, which used to be in the room under construction :(
Cool video! I don't like playing this heist, beacose it very bored.
Thanks Greefoon, glad you liked it! :)
Personally, this is EASILY one of my favorite heists. It's quick, it's simple, and it has the best puzzle in the game, especially when playing solo! But it's definitely a matter of personal tastes, as usual :)
VERY NICE BRO,very good content and explanation,i just hope u get a microphone:)
Thank you very much! I'm considering doing voice-over for future videos, but I'm waiting for a heist where such an addition is clearly fitting! So I'm still thinking about it...
such a great video, keep it up!
Thanks a lot elias! Glad you liked this video, and I'll do my best to keep it up! :)
Yes!!! New video, hmmm what heist will be next?
Big Bank.
Hey Lo0! Hope you enjoyed this one :) Big Bank is definitely in my list of projects, but I want to do a video that combines solo strategy and duo strategy, and so it's gonna take a bit longer than other videos!
@@Marcmb Yes i did enjoy, take your time and have fun doing it. ♡
@@lo039 Thank you very much! I'll definitely have fun working on that project, I'm really enjoying making these videos teaching everything I know about stealth on different heists :) And the support from the community is absolutely great!
@@Marcmb So, see you under next video.
@@lo039 Looking forward to that! Haha :)
Sorry im so late its just I was doing a build. Great video as always gonna do a stealth build.
Hey Diego! No worries, not late at all! I just uploaded this yesterday :) glad you enjoyed it, thank you very much!
As a console player I just take pictures of the puzzle to memorize it then just go by 1, pause the game, go,pause the game, go. It works 50 percent of the time because I suck at memorization
Hey Dfuse! That's a very smart solution, which I didn't consider at all :p
I play solo on Crime.net online, so I've never even used the pause feature. I have to say, that's a very smart way to deal with the time limit and the memorization at the same time, very good approach!
@@Marcmb thanks btw, what is your loud build? I know your channel is mostly stealth stuff but considering the things you know you probably have a loud build that defies the games code and makes overkill nerf your build
@@dfusedroops5345 Haha nooo, not at all! My loud builds are very basic, and tailored around my personal preferences. I'm a big fan of the Anarchist perk deck, and I also enjoy playing Sicario.
However, if you're looking for fully optimized loud builds, with explanations about why you want each skill, and gameplay examples, I definitely recommend KevKild's Steam guide! He has many different loud builds, with many different perk decks and weapon combinations (plus he updates it very regularly), so I'm sure you can find something good there! :)
You can check it out here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2141942312
you've helped me so much thanks man
Happy to hear that the videos are being helpful, ORDER 66!
@@Marcmb i never thought i could do big oil DS on stealth its soo fun
@@order6667 Glad I could help you with that! Big Oil is a very entertaining heist. Looking for intel about the engine, and then figuring out which one is the right one, is very entertaining :)
@@Marcmb i just finished the diamond heist ds stealth sa well 👌👏
@@order6667 Perfect! Good job on that one, and hopefully the guide helped with some things! :D
I remember resetting the puzzle like 5 times and after that i got a straight line. I soloed this on death sentence one down. I kill the camera guard and the 3 guards nearest to the diamond. Bag man near the diamond room too. Then I get loot as much I can. If something goes wrong. ECM and run to the van.
Hey P3keteus! That's a very solid plan. I especially like getting as much loot as possible and then ECM rushing the escape if things go south, that's a very safe approach. I don't have any specific preference when killing the guards, so I just kill any of them if they spot me unexpectedly!
Ive got the same plan, but the only difference is im trying to speedrun this heist my best time is like 5-6 minutes.
Your videos are so good man
Thanks ChirpieGames, I appreciate that a lot! Glad you're enjoying the content :)
2:05 oh that's why they "randomly" crouch in stealth
Correct! Exact same mechanic :)
I managed to do this my first time on DSOD but got no artefacts and when I left the diamond room got spotted and ecm rushed the rest
Impressive
Kaiser Enoshima [カイザー江ノ島] not really it was a complete mess in the basement I had to kill both guards as I got trapped by both of them and more stuff went wrong that I can’t remember
Not bad Ascoolas, well done! As you can see from the video, I also like the ECM rush escape approach, very straightforward, faster, and you can just get out without worrying about anything :p
When i stealthed it i did everything perfect and ecm rushed to the end but i had little hp for yakuza so i died... altough i had 1 hostage so the AI brought me back, no stealth bonus tho
@@eeblan6504 Phew, that must've been a close one! It's funny how you have to be careful of that kind of thing while playing Yakuza, because a single shot after your armor is depleted will kill you :p I generally make sure to kill everyone (rather than run past them) when I'm at 1 HP, just in case!
At least you had a hostage so you managed to salvage the situation, so well done and good job! Hope the guide helped :)
Going by the main entrance seems bad in multiplayer. Look at how high your detection went up even though you were the host (so no desync) and the guard was looking away + intimidated: your detection almost went up to 70%! In public lobbies, anyone not the host is almost definitely going to get spotted. Thermite is the most reliable option in public games
Hey Bok! That's a good point, but you have to keep in mind that the fact he's intimidated means there's no RNG about whether he's looking away, or in your direction: he's always facing forward. As a host with no desync, I could wait until he's looking away, before going in, and the detection would be much lower. By intimidating him, I let the detection go higher, but it's more reliable for clients: even in high ping lobbies, the same trick is going to work very reliably, unless the connection is completely awful (freezing every few seconds) -- then if you get unlucky, and your character freezes in place while going in, it's doomed to fail for sure (although with such a bad connection you wouldn't even stealth in that lobby, anyway!). So it's definitely very consistent, if you wanna try it out :p
i never once saw this heist pop up in crime.net lol
i'm going to add this to the list of heists I want to solo DSOD complete once I get back into the game/start doing stealth again
Hey there, Awe Emperor of Chicken Killing! CrimeNET is very random so things like that can happen sometimes, yeah :p It's quite short, and very fun, and the tile challenge at the end is awesome. Easily one of my favorite solo heists!
So, here we are. One diamond richer. Thanx Marc, again, spot on. Took me 6 tries to get it right, and the fifth one was oh so close. I was just too slow off the pressure plates, so the alarms went off.
Only one thing, and I don't know if it's the game or my mods, but the glass cutter isn't there even though I pay for it.
Same as I can't find the camera access (I think it's called that) on Big Oil Day 2. Just nowhere to be found. The bags I "ordered" are where they should be, but no glass cutters here and no camera access on BO D2. Any clue?
Not bad Stefan! Six tries for a heist like this one (especially with the tiles at the end) is not bad at all.
The glass cutter problem is quite strange: I just tried it ingame myself, and it works as expected.
Are you sure you're clicking on it enough times? As you can see at 0:56, you have to click on glass cutter and then again on the "location" (even though there's only one option; and it's not really a physical location in the heist). That's probably the issue, I'm guessing!
As for the Camera Access on Big Oil D2, that one has a similar system where you have to click twice on the preplanning (and it might have 2 spawn locations... both on the lower level of the house, but one at the front, and one at the back).
@@Marcmb Wow, now I feel dumb. I'll get back to you on both. I THINK at least on this one I tried clicking on the location once as well, but now... I'm not sure. I think I need another diamond right now.
@@Marcmb And now I feel even dumber. The Glass Cutter is auto-equipped, apparently? When I started (I'm paused right at the beginning right now as I write), it said I received it. So yeah... I'll do Big Oil after this.
@@Marcmb Ok, so I just want to point out I hate Big Oil Day 1. Took me 10 tries to get the bloody biker gang, but the last attempt was absolutely flawless. So, I bought the camera feed on Day 2, and I can't find it anywhere. It's not like FF Day 1/3 or The Diamond where you can select it on a map. This one's just buy assets straight up. I did try to click multiple times, etc. I have no use for it, and wouldn't buy it to use, but it's still interesting how I can't find it after buying it. Regarding The Diamond I stealthed it again, 4 tries, got the Diamond, 1 of 3 paintings and all but 1 artifact. Pretty decent. I like it. Oh, and the puzzle at the end. I got as lucky as you can. Straight line following the right side. Doesn't get any easier.
@@stesmi The cutter is definitely auto-equipped if you do all the preplanning clicks yup. I'll check Big Oil this week when I have some time, but I always ignore the assets there (thinking about it there's not even preplanning so it's just a regular asset) so I'm not too familiar with exceptions there.
Played along to it
Super helpful
Glad the guide helped, Hazel! You're absolutely welcome :)
Everything was silent until the escape
When leaving the vault a guard was right outside
But couldn’t have got there without this so thanks a lot
Hello! Great guide for The Diamond! One of my favourite heist to stealth since it's fun and rewarding.
If I may ask a question though, can you "stealth" goat simulator, like the exploit of "stealthing" Green Bridge and Undercover, since day 1 has people getting alarmed, is it a timed alarm, or does it depend on if someone called the cops?
Hey Umar! Glad you liked the guide, thank you! It's one of my favorites too, especially for the puzzle at the end.
As for your Goat Simulator question, I've tried stealthing it in the past, but even if you ECM to block the cop calls, the alarm goes off anyway, so it definitely doesn't seem to be possible.
@@Marcmb aw man, was looking for a way to not do it on DSOD, but looks like I have to if I want to get the "kick me" mask! Thanks for the answer dude!
@@umarmustaqeem5920 Haha, the only way will be to suffer through it in loud, until you can pull it off! But it's definitely worth it for the mask :)
@@Marcmb well, what do you know, I've got the mask the day you replied! Goat Sim and Lab Rats was a true hell, same with the tedious stealthing of Border Crossing, but got the mask!
Thanks for the luck :p, and wish you all the best doing more videos!
@@umarmustaqeem5920 Well done, congratulations! It's always a great feeling when you complete the last heist and finally get the mask :D Next objective: 100% achievements! :p
nice video, very helpful for me and my friend who screw up stealth heists pretty easily.
but I do have one unrelated question, what mods do you use, and, any resources on how to install them?
Hey Mega Potato! Good to hear that the video will be useful :)
My mods are essentially just my HUD mods: _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers._ Installing them is very easy, but if it's your first time, follow these instructions and you will have them installed in no time, and very easily!
*Step-by-step written explanation (including download links)*
· First of all, very importantly, in order for PAYDAY 2 mods to work you need to install some kind of mod-loading hook, SuperBLT being the most common one (it's a .dll file that you download and place in your PAYDAY 2 folder). Link to SuperBLT, with install instructions: superblt.znix.xyz/
*Step by step instructions to install SuperBLT*
(1) Download the files in the link (follow instructions if you need to install Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redistributable package (x86), which only applies for the first time you download this hook).
(2) When you download the Latest Release DLL (WSOCK32.dll), place it in your PAYDAY 2 folder (Steam\steamapps\common\PAYDAY 2). To find this folder, you can go to your Steam library, right-click on PAYDAY 2, and then click Properties... > LOCAL FILES > BROWSE LOCAL FILES... which will open the directory in your file explorer.
(3) Launch PAYDAY 2, and it will automatically prompt you to install the hook, automatically creating a "mods" folder in your PAYDAY 2 folder.
(4) Close the game.
(5) Now you can place any mods in your "mods" folder! I'll give you one example with the HUD.
· Now for the actual HUD mods. You can get the "latest version" (it's a bit old, but still works) of PocoHud3 here: steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/15/1457328846183663967/
*Step by step instructions to install PocoHud3 (or any mod)*
(1) All mods for PAYDAY 2 are downloaded as a .zip file, which contains just a folder inside. The folder name is usually just the name of the mod (in this case, the folder in the .zip is called "PocoHud3", and it contains files such as mod.txt, mod.lua, and others, depending on the specific mod). You want to unzip this folder into your "mods" folder that was just created in step (3) of the previous list of instructions.
(2) Once the folder is in place, the mod has automatically been installed.
(3) For any other mods that you want, repeat the download of the corresponding .zip, and place the corresponding folder inside the same "mods" folder.
(4) That's it! Launch the game, and your mods will work! :D
· _Additional PocoHud trackers_ download link: modworkshop.net/mod/26167 -- install instructions would be the same as the instructions for PocoHud3, just above :)
That's about it! Very long response, but as you can see, installing mods is quite simple once you know how it works! If any of the steps are unclear, feel free to ask and I will clarify :)
@@Marcmb well, i honestly appreciate the long response, made everything pretty easy and simple
as we speak, pocohud3 and the addons are installed, and I even told my friend to install them since he also wonders what mods you use (we used your counterfeit walkthrough and got 2 infamy tiers)
Thank you for the explanation, have a great day!
@@meg0p You're welcome! I'm glad the explanation helped, and also glad to hear that you're having fun with the Counterfeit strategy! :)
Good day to you too!
Great video
Thank you Gamingis, much appreciated!
The “Only 1 can spawn pet set” is false, I’ve had multiple boxes in each of these different sets. Usually the most popular is Set 5, I always have 2 boxes side by side in that area
Edit: I wrote this before I seen the part in the video where he mentions this
Yeah Brett! Set 5 is indeed the exception, as mentioned later in the video (I didn't want to cram too much information into that section, to make the video easier to watch). The rule applies with no exceptions to all other sets though! :)
Which gun did you use to shoot the lock from a distance when there is a guard blocking the main entrance?
Hey DJLazer! That's just a regular CAR-4, which I always bring as my usual primary for solo stealth runs!
@@Marcmb Ok got it. Also thank you so much for replying, a lot of TH-camrs don't take time to interact with their viewers. It's really helpful!
@@djlazer1 You're absolutely welcome! Happy to help :) I always check all my new comments whenever I have some time!
i actualy used to think that the front entrance was not possible and that you need thermite paste because for me everytime i had a guard at the front entrance so i thought it was intended turns out i just have bad luck :]
Sounds like bad luck, yup! It's more likely for the front entrance to be unguarded, so it was definitely bad luck :p
Plus, even if it's guarded, you can use the trick shown here to sneak past him 100% reliably, so I personally never go for thermite anymore :D
@@Marcmb yes that trick was actually amazing and very useful
@@ExplosivePine Glad you liked that, thank you! :)
it is a pity that your guide will not be able to teach a good memory for passing the plates xd
as always on top Marc!
Haha, I wish I could teach more about my method for remembering the path, but that would've turned the video into something very different, and so I just quickly mentioned it and moved on to the chat-based approaches :p
Glad you liked the video Nikolai, thank you as usual! :)
Quick question, why use the locomotive over the judge? I think the judge is more concealable.
Hey Kyle! Good question, although my answer is very simple :p
It's 100% because of personal preference: even though the Judge has an extra 1 concealment compared to the Loco, both weapons are enough to reach 3 Detection Rating, and both have enough damage to 1-shot an alerted 480 HP enemy. More importantly, the way the First Person model holds The Judge looks a little bit weird, considering how small the weapon looks.
Thus, because I like the visuals of the Locomotive a lot more, and its reload style and magazine size are better for me, that's the one I use! :)
I was sitting with my teammate. I said - "wonder if path can generate straight" and it literally did on next reroll
Lucky! You probably summoned it by talking about it :p
Can you do fire starter??? Your explanations are great! Love the videos
Hey yomero! Thank you very much, really appreciate it :)
Firestarter is definitely in my list of projects, although I'm starting by doing more "intended stealth" heists, because I feel like those will be able to help more heisters, especially new players. But I'll definitely get to Firestarter too! :)
Payday 2 may be dead BUT when PAYDAY 3 comes out all of us small youtubers will RISE.
Mark my words!
Hey Hozz! The game is still doing quite well on Steam (huge daily numbers), but as soon as PAYDAY 3 comes out in 2022-2023, it's gonna be awesome for sure! :D
@@Marcmb They better have all these heists coming back as classic heists
@@blackT1E I would love that! All the PAYDAY 2 big heists remade as "Classics" for PAYDAY 3, and also all the classic PD:TH that were remade for PAYDAY 2, also remade for PAYDAY 3! I would easily pay for those as downloadable content, I'm sure it takes effort to remake them so I wouldn't even mind!
What is the name of the mod ur using for Dodge chance, sixth Sense time?
Hey Max! That is all displayed by my HUD mods: _PocoHud3_ and _Additional PocoHud trackers._
The former is responsible for the ECM timers, as well as the floating timers for drills, time locks, hacks, pagers... (whenever they are present). It also includes other on-screen numbers such as: FPS meter, IRL clock, levels right next to player names, and some numbers for each player which are "Kills | Jokered enemies | Current downs | Maximum downs (before custody)".
As for the latter, _Additional PocoHud trackers,_ I mainly use it for the 3.5s countdown before Sixth sense triggers, but it will also show you trackers for all kinds of things (any skill which has a duration or cooldown). Both are highly customizable so everything can be toggled on and off, depending on what you want!
Something I'm curious about is what weapons those are.
Hey Roscuro! The important one is the secondary, which is the Locomotive 12G (shotgun). My "saw build" video in the description has a section where the weapon and all its attachments are shown.
The primary is a CAR-4.
Is it possible for you to make a discord group? I would love it alot
Hey Snowflakepanda! We don't have a Discord server at the moment, but we do have a Steam group if you're interested! Link is in the description, and it's a very nice place to find heisters for achievement hunting, stealth lobbies, random heists, etc! If you're interested, of course :)
Marcmb thank you i have no friends lol
@@snowflakepanda8131 Feel free to join the group then! Everyone is invited :)
I have a few questions :
A. Is there only one box in "Set 2" which is the one near the stairs?
B. You said that only 1 box can spawn per "Set", yet a few minutes later you said there's a 2.5% chance that two of those boxes in the middle spawn next to eachother - but according to your list they are in the same set, how?
Hey Guy Schwartzberg! Both very good questions.
(A) There is indeed a single box in SET #2, so it's one of the best sets to check in every run because you only have to check one spawn to determine if the box has spawned or not (compared to SETS #1 or #4, which have different spawns distributed in a small area and so you have to cover more space to find the box, if it has spawned).
(B) The double spawn in SET #5 is a very rare exception (very low chance), and it can only happen for that set: the rule still applies to all other sets. That's why I didn't mention it while explaining the list of spawns, because it's just a very rare event and it only applies to that set!
Hey Marcmb! What you think about “White House Rush”?
Hey NickBrin! There's definitely a couple of strategies that could be used for that, and it's a heist that I would really enjoy rushing. I haven't recorded any ECM rushes in a while though, but I would like to make more videos like that for sure! :D
Marcmb yay!
Thanks For Answer!
@@NBrin You're welcome! Hopefully I'll have time to record more ECM rushes in the future, and thank you for watching and for the comment too! :)
Thanks man.. you are great
Glad you liked this one as well, ONESHOT! Thank you once again :)
Think on the console version theres a bug with the tiles as I tried the other day and on the first or second tile in it set the alarm off despite knowing for a fact I was on the right one. Suppose it could have been the time I was on death sentence but I dont think so like I say it happened on the first or second tile so surely it wouldn't have run out that quick
Hey again K M! If you're certain it was the 1st or 2nd tile, then it can't be due to timing (because 1st and 2nd light up instantly). Furthermore, if it was stealth, then we can also rule out the possibility of a dominated cop stepping on the wrong tiles.
So that being the case, it may have been a console bug, yeah! I've never seen it on PC though!