The news saying Shin Tae-yong will be sacked if he doesn’t win against Saudi Arabia is just random talk from football fans trying to blame someone for their frustration. Almost everyone in Indonesia loves Shin Tae-Yong, even though the results haven’t been perfect yet.
People who wants Shin Tae Yong sacked back home are pure haters who wants his head no matter the results. It may be true that having mostly European based players as starters made some people thought that we should have European coach to perform better but unfortunately some Shin Tae Yong head hunters in the media especially had been haters all along from the very beginning..
@learningvideosbynikhil8308 Thank you for pointing out the similarities. You have no Idea how spineless these haters are(Sorry I guess you know 😉 ), they are like cancer in Indonesian football.
In Indonesia now there are two camps.... the camp that does not like the development of the Indonesian national team.... they also hate Shin Tae Yong and players of descent.... let's call it 'Local Pride' And the camp that supports the national team... and really supports players of descent....
If Indonesia qualifies for the 2026 world cup, Indonesia is the only team to qualify from the bottom of the ladder, from play-off round 1, qualify for round 1, qualify for round 2 and hopefully qualify for round 3/4.
Fans in Indonesia critized Shin Tae-hong of his first team decision. He kept changing winning team. Poor decision of attacking strategy against China with high defense was a proof that Indonesia was more suitable as counter attack team due to pacey strikers and very good with long ball.
LOL, it's pretty ironic even funny. These Dutch-Indonesian players grew up being fed with philosophy of total football à la Cruyff where football is all about creativity, precise passing neat from foot to foot, and elegant playmakers controlling the game. But somehow, Shin Tae-yong turned them into a team that relies solely on counterattacks, minimal creativity, pragmatic play, and an over-reliance on individual skill none of which seem to be part of Cruyff’s total football curriculum. Creativity in midfield? Gone. Player spacing in midfield? So far.... Sure counterattacking might work against stronger teams. It’s logical: sit deep, stay compact, wait for your moment, and then sprint forward with your pacey strikers.... But against weaker teams on paper, like Bahrain or China? It’s a disaster. The team looks confused. Where’s the creativity? How do you break down a low block? They’re so used to waiting for opponents to attack that when they have to dictate the game, they end up running in circles, clueless. That’s classic STY Take Thom Haye, for example a natural deep-lying playmaker, yet he’s being forced to play like a Gattuso or some knock-off Park Ji-sung, running around aimlessly, burning energy, with no room for creativity just longpass longpass longball longball. By the 65th minute, it’s no surprise he’s gassed out. Meanwhile players like Ragnar Oratmangoen or Rafael Struick might thrive in this system since they’re more defensively inclined and have solid stamina. And Asnawi? Well his 120% effort makes him perfect for this style, but let’s be real he lacks the vision and ends up playing recklessly.... But honestly how can you take a team with the potential for beautiful creative football and turn them into a "run fast, counter fast" squad? If this keeps up, when will we ever see Indonesia capable do well dominate a game and control possession with style? especially against team weaker on paper
The talk about sacking Shin Tae-Yong were mostly from a faction of Indonesian fans lead by a local pundit that hates STY and using descendants players. The guy keep calling for Shin Tae-Yong to be sack for every small mistake pretty much, and the pundit wants to make the national team to only play people playing in Indonesian's league, no abroad players. And the double losses against china and Japan made that group that follows said pundit to become so vocal that some news media decided to cover on that for clicks and views. Majority of the fans doesn't call for Shin Tae-Yong's head to be on the block
Indonesia is in the process of developing... it's different from Japan which has become a giant in Asia and the world, so as supporters of Indonesia... we can only support whether we win or lose... keep moving forward, Indonesia
Just wanted to say I genuinely agree with all of ur takes. Also, unlike most youtubers who over Asian World Cup qualifiers, they tend to have some bias for a team while you always seem quite fair to every team, along with Michael Talks Football, so big thanks to you two. And well I am a Chinese supporter, so as for China going to fourth round, I think it's a possibility, but I won't get my hopes high. They don't have to face Japan anymore, so thats a relief and an advantage. Also to note China always has strong history of giving their supporters lots of hope, such as winning some games and being in a great position to qualify for world cup, and then they throw it all away and lose an important match. And some more thoughts: Branko Ivankovic did say in an interview before the game that they did indeed work on defending set pieces, but that obviously did not turn out so great. And for Wu Lei, well he is our captain and at 33 years old he still dominates the Chinese super league, so he will be a part of the last four matches. As long as he stays fit, he's still the best Chinese player right now by a lot. It's really good to see young players taking part, as last Asian cup we had the second oldest team competing. Fun fact the game against Bahrain was the first time Branko Ivankovic fielded 0 naturalised players, so that was cool.
The president of afc is from bahrain. Some believe there is money play in afc or favouritism towards some middle eastern countries. Before china bahrain match, china also asked the referree to be non middle east origin. But now that afcmafia tags became viral, i think maybe fifa is paying more attention to this issue. Bahrain request afc to let indonesia bahrain match to be in neutral place instead of indonesia, afc didnt answer, fifa was the one told them to play at indonesian home.
Hello, man, a little tip from a Chinese supporter: In fact, excluding set pieces, China conceded 9 goals: in that 7-0 match, Japan's first goal came from a corner kick, Endo's header, and Indonesia's Tom Haye's goal came from China's defensive error in the throw-in.
yah benar gol Indonesia karena kesalahan pemain China, tapi tahukah anda lemparan jauh dari pemain Indonesia arhan pratama itu sudah terkenal disini karena sering membuahkan hasil gol hampir disetiap pertandingan.
10:23 a lot of Aussies wouldn't have heard of Hayden Matthews yet. He plays for my club. He's big, he's tall, the classic style CB we love to bits down under. Even I was surprised he got a start, I genuinely thought he was just getting picked to be in the squad for the experience. Very good player, but realistically needs a season or 2 more of pro football under his belt. the idea of Him and Souttar in a few years tho, we're gunna be massive at the back. literally. Agree with Geria being good btw. The guy has been a rock for Melbourne Victory forever, reliable, gives 100% happy to see him get a chance. But therein lies the problem., When it comes it to defenders, we could pick a team of players non-aussies have never heard about and probably still be solid as hell at the back, whereas even our best attackers just aren't cutting it in Asia right now. I appreciate deadball tv's faith that Australia will still finish 2nd, but just do it in the most boring fashion possible. Sounds about right. 😂
Bahrain are the only 1 i can see kicking the bucket & i thought they be good to go. I'm not surprised if Australia get 3rd or 4th spot, but I'll be disappointed. I'm glad to see if Indonesia or China in 2nd place.
@@saanstarantolin2641 And when Bahrain can get away with bribing refs, they will! Australia is basically the Portugal of AFC - they love doing things THE HARD WAY! 🤣🙈🤦♂️
As a Chinese fan on god set pieces against China is like conceding literal penalties every time there's a corner or dead ball situation my heart aches like mad.
Good prediction.. i think its logic comment because indonesia unpredictable team, australia until now still unconsisten team.. saudi arabia not performing well..
Hey pal. From a Swede who lived in Australia for three years. Greeting from the beautiful north. I think Australia will need to wonder what has gone wrong with them after six matches before they can resume their campaign in March. They're so lucky to remain second since October, partly because the rest (except Japan) is equally terrible. Our Sweden has just changed manager from Jan Andersson to now Jon Dahl Tomasson, whose success with Malmö earned him the job, and we are still trying to adjust on how good Tomasson going to be. Yes, our Nations League is a success, but I can't say if we can qualify for the World Cup in North America. Tomasson is still new to the coaching position and, while we prioritise long term gains, we need to be patient with what Tomasson can do. Blame that they just hired Tony Popovic maybe, but I am trying to be nuanced given the Sweden experience. I am sure that Aussies are not happy with Popovic being appointed, but he has just four matches and he needs time to adjust to what he is doing.
The question over Saudi Arabia's malaise in this group earns me more attention, given I have friends working in football transfer markets in KSA. The reality is Herve Renard isn't smart. He has the motivational spirit and energy, but he doesn't have the ability to maintain earlier successes. In fact, his past triumphs in Africa and Saudi Arabia (1st) has a lot to do with Patrice Beaumelle and Laurent Bonadei, who were his previous assistants and also the smart ones. Renard's new assistant, David Ducci, doesn't have the astuteness of the previous two, and this is the reason why Saudi Arabia is so terrible. Additionally, Renard's high-tempo pressing, a legacy of Beaumelle, is no longer strange to other opponents anymore, so I think the situation will turn worse for them if they can't accept this fact. With Indonesia, they are like Tottenham, they can get big win and can also collapse very quickly. Given the high morale of the Indonesians at the moment, let's expect their upcoming next year collapse.
You identified well. Or maybe your friends. Patrice Beaumelle was Renard's assistant during the 2018 World Cup and I recognised his ability to influence the game. Renard seems to be restricted only to the role of an influencer. A talented motivator but not a great coach. Beaumelle deserved more recognition for his contribution.
I’m Indonesian and i want to share the good and bad so what you mean by “collapse” is arguable here are the positives about Indonesia national team: - great fighting spirit - very direct counter attack - great supporters atmosphere - discipline defenders - no drama and great sportmanship - they had a good situation internally, they believe each other and here are what Indonesia National team lacks: - individual error, sometimes lead to opponent’s goal - finishers - consistency, sometimes they play great but sometimes not. maybe the chemistry was not there if the coach still changes too many players on every match - some player still not play a simple game like pass and move. they still like to dribble and dribble - some players are easily provoked /can’t control emotion (many young footballer) - i don’t see any tactics adjustment if the team face a deadlock. just Arhan’s throw in
@@dga4914 There is a reason why Indonesia is basically the Tottenham of Asian football - they are not stable enough to make good performances. Yes, they can win big, but can also falter very fast. Remember the same Tottenham at the EPL that had just shocked the world by beating 4-0 Man City, yet at the same time unable to beat a newcomer like Ipswich or a Roma in crisis? That's Indonesia.
To answer your question whether Indonesia is legit or not I believe the match against Australia will decide if Indonesia will finish Top 2 or not, and if we lose against Australia then that's it we're not there yet. Just aim for the 4th round. Let's see if we can get 2 win against China & Bahrain at home.
If I remember correctly, there are no terms for Shin Tae Yong to be qualified in his Contract.. So he can't be sacked if not being qualified 😅.. The one who said STYOUT are the one who need blame someone for their frustration, even tho looking down to China was a bad move from STY tho, IMHO
Thanks mate. I think Indonesia beating the Saudis was a massive favour to Australia and as you suggest may be enough for us to steal second place. Australia do better against the stronger sides where they can play to their strength of being tough to break down and relying on some individual brilliance on the counter - got them a long way in the last WC. When they have to boss the game against supposedly weaker sides, the lack of go forward cohesian starts to get a bit embarassing. I don't know what Kye Rowles has done to Popovic but he and Soutar were solid at the last WC and so how Cam Burgess can continue to make mistakes but keep his place i don't know. I'm a Caceres fan - he has been one of those frustrating players with enormous talent who just hasn't gone on to the heights - he was once signed by the City Football Group. However he has been playing his best football the last couple of years and bossing the Aleague with Sydney FC so I have been happy to see him get a go. Riley Mc has been living off his scorpian kick goal for far too long and needs to actually produce some quality more consistently. Yengi got two goals against Bahrain but missed a hatful of other chances, so the (long long) search for a no 9 goes on. Irakunda might be the answer but not clear where his head is at. In the absence of Matthew Leckie, Craig Goodwin is the only genuine attacking quality the Socceroos have. But as you say, you can never fault the team's effort and I'm sure they will find a way to get to WC26 - might be another record number of qualifiers though!
I am sure that Indonesia will create a new history by qualifying for WC 2026 as a runner-up of Group C which C does not only mean CHAOS but also means CHAMPION for Indonesia. Indonesia will probably defeat Australia and Bahrain in March 2025. Hopefully, aamiin insha Allah.
All my prediction of group c matchday 7 8 9 10 Japan3-1Bahrain Australia 3-1 Indonesia Saudi 2-0 china Matchday 8 Bahrain 2-3 Indonesia (as a Bahraini fan) Saudi 2-4 Japan Australia 2-0 china Matchday 9 Bahrain 3-2 saudi Indonesia 3-1 china Japan 2-2 Australia Matchday 10 Bahrain 2-1 china Indonesia 2-5 Japan Saudi 1-2 Australia
To some extent, the fate of the other five teams is literally at the mercy of Japan. China and Bahrain, in particular, will inevitably lose sleep over this in the later windows next year.
Japan have been tactically brilliant for many years now, this helps them and is why they always perform well in long league like competitions, BUT Japanese teams always no matter how tactically brilliant, no matter how many world class individuals they have STRUGGLE in pressure situations, in a tournament/knockout structure, I dunno if it's their smaller physical size on average, or if it's a cultural thing, but Japanese teams struggle, in those games they seems to fold under the pressure of win lose games, the team seem to get pushed around (specially by the larger European and Africans) and will make silly mistakes, mistakes you don't see them make when it's WC qualifiers (where it's not knockout but a league like structure) I remember back when I was young, 2.japanese youth teams came and toured Australia,. they played a handful of rep and academy teams here, my youth team played one of them, the team we played were incredibly gifted, they could pass us around the park, BUT they were all alot smaller and they would brake down with physicality and pressure, once we scored first, they started to make silly mistakes, poor shooting decisions etc, we beat them by a handful of goals, at the end of the game it was like some took losing like it was dishonourable.
I am Peruvian or distant Chinese-Japanese ancestry so I can tell that, I am happy for China's resurgence. Though I think China need to fix their set-piece issues. The fact that they neutralised successfully Indonesia and Bahrain's tricks show that they can make it right. China can still qualify. Australia is not in good shape. Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are collapsing. Indonesia is the traditional Spursy (Indonesia Hotspurs or Tottenham Garuda). They have to find at least two wins against these teams.
I do agree with you, mate. Disgrace for those who wants to dismissed Shin Tae Yong from his position, anyone, not only the citizen itself, but also the federation
19:10 the only thing Bahrain guaranteed is an Oscar for always acting against every team 😂 they really need to stop doing that shit, that's disgusting to watch, I mean this is 2024, the VAR era, they can't keep doing that kind of old tricks in football
I am Saudi American and I am so upset with the situation Saudi Arabia is in. This team, the current team we have, is lifeless, no soul, no spirit, and completely dysfunctional. We brought back Herve Renard but we have no improvement after two matches, and even our players are looking like they are going to be pressed back. This Renard look pale and lamer than before, he isn't the Renard we used to know before. Now I think even China smell our weaknesses and I don't think we can make it easy. It's gross disaster from top to bottom. I am worried, I am frightened for our Green Falcons. And I think everyone in my country agreed with it.
@@Meow-r2z Mancini deserved to be booted out from the job. But all I saw from two first games under Renard 2.0 was a team in total dysfunction. How the hell Renard allowed Australia and Indonesia to exploit our back so easily is unbelievable. We held goalless to Australia only for a catastrophe in Indonesia to follow.
I agree with you bro the reason saudi wasn't performing because of Mancini's style of play like he is too defensive and saudi arabia ain't defensive and like know how to waste time like other countries take a example against south korea we were 1-0 up and then boom they scored in 90+9 and we are obviously trash in pens as salem all dawsari missed two in a row which can gave us the win against bahrain and Indonesia in jeddah so Renard needs to fix this big issue
I mean turkey and Croatia were alright tbh….for some reason they didn’t push those opponents that hard! Turkey it was like cute passes leading to nothing and Croatia it was playing for penalties
Beat me but I am not clear how Renard could even save Saudi Arabia after their self-destruction, I am Moroccan and I know how Renard became terrible for us after the 2018 World Cup. Blame Roberto Mancini does not explain anything, because simply Saudis have very high ego and unwilling to admit their mistakes. The systematic mistake of KSA comes from the depth of their culture. They believe they are supreme after the 2-1 win over Argentina, and this led to complacency and arrogance. In fact, Saudi Arabia has invested very little on improving their youth academy program, something that might surprise you given their richness. By divesting them to buy foreign superstars, they created a major loophole whose domestic players struggle to make up. You know the current top Saudi scorer in their Pro League this season? It's a 31-year old who has never got called up by the Saudi national team. Roberto Mancini was right about it, but interference and oversized confidence didn't allow them to face up. Renard has also changed a lot. His luck is running out and with his persistent tactical issues, it's clear he can't win with the way how he is showing. He can't win with just motivation, but he must have the strategy on his mind. That's something he has failed. Our FRMF leader Faouzi Lekjaa was correct that Renard need to go. After the loss to Benin in the 2019 AFCON, we wonder why did Renard leave and no one tried to persuade him back. Seems like Lekjaa saw something wrong with Renard already.
Shin tae yong used japan match to see his formation weakness. Thats why against saudi he prepared new tactic, including playing marselino as starter. Indonesia weak in midfield and conversing chance into a goal. Ole romeny already agreed to join our team as striker. Hope other players like Jairo riedewald, Miliano jonathan, Tijjani noslin, and other grade A players who have Indonesian blood agree to join our team. And hopefully we can win 2 home game against bahrain and china. Great video thx.
If Indonesia beat Bahrain and China at home, Indonesia will have big chance to qualify to fourth round. If on top of that also beating Australia (which is honestly a very tough one), Indonesia might go to WC2026.
What you also have to know is the China draw the sideline few meters smaller than usual for the game against Japan in order to do better pressing. For me, this is an idiotic idea which China has to shame. It’s unbelievable what they are doing but it’s also funny that China lost 1-3 in this game.
Indonesia's advantage is that we will play at home against Bahrain and China and against Japan when they are certain to qualify. Hopefully. Indonesia will be lucky and be able to maximize their home results and hold off Austi in the away match 😊🔥🔥🔥
In matches between China and Japan, there have been documented instances of unsportsmanlike behavior from the Chinese side, such as narrowing the pitch dimensions to facilitate pressing, using drones for reconnaissance, and changing players’ jersey numbers at the last minute. Similarly, in the China vs. Indonesia match, the Chinese team employed the same tactics and secured a victory. Given these precedents, if a match between Indonesia and China were to take place in Indonesia, it is reasonable to assume that the Chinese team would face challenges in replicating such actions. Without the ability to use drones for reconnaissance, China’s chances of defeating Indonesia on Indonesian soil would likely decrease significantly.
unsportsmanlike behavior? Home field advantage is a thing. Its like the U.S. national team when playing nations from central america choosing to play their games in Minnesota. Whether you like tactics or not, they are legal. As a chinese fan, yes, china winning on indonesian soil wouldn't be easy. But China beat Bahrain away, so anything is possible.
@@astonVIlla-28 Is the use of drones legal? Of course not. Just mentioning it highlights the low human development index associated with such actions. This is why, despite having a population of 1.4 billion, China remains weak in football. From using lasers on players to other unsportsmanlike behavior, it’s clear that standards of civility are incredibly low. The only thing to take pride in seems to be a brainwashed sense of patriotism. Without the ability to cheat, China is bound to lose to Indonesia.
@@astonVIlla-28 The discussion here pertains to sportsmanship, not the legality of actions within the rules. It might be beneficial for you to start by understanding the primary subject at hand.
I get the distinction you're making, but honestly, you're overcomplicating it. Home-field advantage and strategic decisions have always been part of sports, whether you call them gamesmanship or unsportsmanlike. If these actions are within the rules, arguing about 'sportsmanship' feels more like nitpicking than addressing what really matters. The team that played better football wins. Even in my high school varsity games, opposing teams would make us travel four hours and play a state semifinal at 11:30 pm. Was it unfair? Sure. But it was legal, and complaining about sportsmanship wouldn’t have changed anything. Teams focus on what gives them the edge-within the rules. Maybe that's just part of the game, and I have nothing to complain about.
G'day Jack 👋 Another great video 📹 mate. What can I say about my beloved Australia 🇦🇺 🤔??? We are absolutely toothless in attack! Granted, Kusini Yengi scored two goals vs. Bahrain 🇧🇭, however, he is not our number 9 moving forward. Mohamed Toure at Randers should be given a go at 9 in Tony Popovic's squad with Yengi at 10. Toure's goals and assist returns for Randers have been pretty good in the past few games. We also have Jason Cummings, who plays for Mohun Bagan SG in the Indian Super League. However, he's not even getting a look in. How Popovic couldn't find a spot for Nestory Irunkunda in this window 🪟, slays me 😳! He is one of our best young prospects in many years, and he leaves him out of the squad to concentrate on his club football ⚽️ at Bayern Munich. Another player is Alex Robertson at Cardiff City in the English Championship. Whatever is going on there with Robertson, Football Australia 🇦🇺 needs to sort this out ASAP. We desperately need him at number 8 to control the midfield. Right now, our qualifying campaign is sitting on a knifes 🔪 edge. No less than 6 points in the March 2025 window vs. Indonesia 🇮🇩 and China 🇨🇳. Otherwise, we're in deep trouble.
japanese here👋🏼 if we beat Bahrain next match, we’ll mathematically qualify. it means young players gonna play rest of 3 matches(vs saudi, australia and indonesia). 2022 qualifiers, we tied Vietnam at the last match but we already qualified at that time. 2018 qualifiers, same thing happened against saudi. we tied Vietnam and everyone make fun of us…it could happen again. we might tie or lose to saudi, australia and indonesia, but it doesn’t matter. china and bahrain are just bad luck. remind this when you’re gonna make predictions videos! cheers☺️
Doubtful. Japan is clearly having the edge but given what's happened when they faced Saudi Arabia in the last WCQs, the Japanese have more incentive to knock Saudi Arabia out of the competition and consolidate the first place. Simple: terminate the threat before it grows. Given Japan always seeks to prepare for long game, I don't think they are going to overlook the March calendar. The drive for Japan will be their desire for perfection. If they are to beat Bahrain (which is 99,5% possible), they will still try to beat Saudi Arabia so they can rest in June with ease. It's about planning for the future.
@@Ricoblueruint not sure if this is fake news or not, but i read japan wanna win all matches in this round 3, also hajime moriyasu said japan will help indonesia qualify?
@@diomuda7903 moriyasu might use main players against saudi anyway cuz he’d already call up main players for Bahrain on March. but he doesn’t care if we’ll finish 1st or 2nd. you can see the very last match against Vietnam of 2018 world cup qualifiers. he used sub players and tied Vietnam and we dropped many points of fifa rankings. this is the fact.
@@saanstarantolin2641FAKE NEWS 100%. even in Japan, i heard news about Indonesian believe fake news and that is moriyasu said the kind of things. Japanese laughed and now use it as meme.😂 I tried to find the fake video on youtube of indonesian community and wanted to know what moriyasu actually said, but the sound was muted. Also I asked Indonesian there, where’s the original video but no one replied. If you have the video of Moriyasu said that WITH SOUND, pls show me and I’ll translate it.
@@Ricoblueruint got a feeling it was fake news cause ive never seen actual footage, some shorts with indonesian text only thats why i asked 😁 , dont think he would say such things aswell, the other teams might get automatically angry.
Fyi,Pssi(indonesia football association) president already do and giveall what shin tae yong want,niw he want the results which is going round 4.Thats all,even he winning vs saudi pssi will still do the evaluation.We all love shin tae yong,but he should reconsider about what is he doin since china match.Glad we are back on the track
Analysis for Group C This group is full of chaos. If you exclude Japan, the competition among the other teams is incredibly tight. Let’s start with Japan. Japan is on a completely different level compared to the other teams in this group. However, I am a bit hesitant about their performance against stronger opposition in competitive matches. While Japan has defeated big teams, these victories have mostly occurred in friendly matches. It’s a similar pattern to Colombia, which also boasts strong records in friendlies but tends to falter against tougher opponents in competitive settings. I wouldn’t get too carried away with Japan’s results against weaker teams because they have struggled against Iraq, Iran, and Australia with the same team and coach. People often focus on flashy results instead of consistency. For instance, many Iranian fans criticize Iran’s close victories, not realizing that Iran is the best team in the world in 2024 in terms of consecutive wins-surpassing Spain and Japan. Iran recently moved above Mexico in the FIFA rankings, which is an impressive achievement. Saudi Arabia The situation for Saudi Arabia is concerning. Many players in their domestic league don’t get enough playing time due to the presence of elite foreign players. This disparity is evident when comparing Saudi teams to other Asian teams in the AFC Champions League. I believe this lack of minutes will hurt the national team. However, their new coach deserves more time to address these issues, as it’s too early to judge based on his recent results. The Gulf Cup could be a good opportunity for Saudi Arabia to address these problems. Australia Australia is the only team in this group that managed to secure a point against Japan. I believe they could achieve another draw against Japan, and even a single point might be enough for them to qualify. With many teams drawing against each other and losing to Japan, every point matters. Indonesia Indonesia is passionate about football, and their last appearance in the World Cup was ages ago under a different name. I think they have the potential to secure wins against Bahrain and China, and perhaps even manage a draw against Australia. Bahrain Bahrain is highly unpredictable. They often lose at home but manage to pick up points away. I wouldn’t be surprised if they secured points against Indonesia. At this stage, it’s hard to predict where they will finish in the group. China China has regained some momentum after a heavy loss to Japan. They are currently the only team with two wins and two losses. If they manage to secure two more wins, there’s a good chance they could finish second in the group.
Japan beat Germany and Spain at the last World Cup they definitely are a step ahead of the other Asians and Idc about a rigged Asian cup for that at the World Cup Japan is the one country that shows up for Asia mainly.
@@Eruma_27 Those results were from 3 years ago in 2022. Also, Japan lost to a weaker team like Costa Rica, and they have never passed the knockout stage. If Spain and Japan were to rematch right now, Japan would definitely lose because those results happen randomly. Furthermore, South Korea also beat Germany in the World Cup before Japan or Saudi Arabia beat Argentina, which went on to win the World Cup in 2022. These results don’t mean those teams are strong or above other Asian teams
The problem regarding Saudi Arabia is their new coach... not exactly new. He had worked with the Saudis between 2019-23, and it was him who masterminded Saudi Arabia's 2-1 win over Argentina. Saudi media had anticipated a great resurgence under Renard because Renard remains highly loved by the Saudi population. The shock defeat to Indonesia dashed that hope. In just a few days, Saudi media turned from praising Renard for grinding Australia to a goalless draw into persistently bombarding Renard for the loss to Indonesia. That is not helped by the fact that Renard regarded the contract as basically a continuation of his previous one, not a new contract new life. Basically, Renard sowed to himself the pressure and Saudi media's impatience is also taking a toll.
@@diomuda7903 I noticed that people over there are impatient about the results . I am sure he will figure it out because he has a 4 month break with the Gulf Cup matches.
@@Alistair-r7s That's not the only issue. The other issue is his tactic. He is obsessed with tactics related to 3-4-3 or 4-3-3, with high-tempo pressing the feature of his strategy. However, they are not developed by Renard himself, but by his first assistant, Patrice Beaumelle. For a long time, because he had good assistants like Beaumelle and Laurent Bonadei, it worked. This time, things are different. Renard no longer has Bonadei accompanying, and his next assistant, David Ducci, isn't as good as Bonadei or Beaumelle. Moreover, his high-tempo pressing has been exposed after the 2022 World Cup, and others have started developing counter-pressing strategies against Renard. The catastrophic November results came from these changes. Renard's lucky charm is running out and given his history of inability to sustain earlier success, you have to wonder, what does Renard even have on his hands after the loss to Indonesia? His obsession with pressing tactics will be his own downfall unless he came to realise he has been exposed, though I remain in doubt.
the problem with STY is the starting 11 changing too much more like experiment, like against china? wtf was that. 5 or 6 new starting 11 like wth its important game but somehow 'lets do some experimental shit' there you go 0-4'
STY's contract is until 2027, he was given the target by the federation to qualify for Round 4. So it is not true that if he loses against Saudi he will be fired. Yes, this is the best Indonesian victory in the history of Indonesian football.
"Don't blame Indonesian for wanting an instant result when the Federation are using the instant way (naturalized player)" - Indonesian football pundit maybe that's why Indonesian want STY out, because he can't maximalize the naturalized player (after losing to china and japan) So much worse after Erick Thohir (Indonesian Football Federation President) said that Indonesian players quality only below Japan & South Korea players.
But it's real life play team with 11 head playing together, they need chemistries to team working. Not like playing fifa when we add some new player and instansly working as a team. Like everyone always said, even instant noodles still need a process before it can be eaten. We can have instant players but still need process before it can be a good team.
Kanno is finished from 2022 he didn’t give any good performance after world cup but he still get chances with the national team before young talents how are better than him In golf cup we should try some young player how deserve to play and we have allot
Kanno is important for Al-Hilal, hence why he is still used despite his mediocrity with NT after 2022. Sadly, we don't have good alternatives as seem to be. Saud Abdulhamid? He is the bench boy for Roma, the Italians aren't interested on using him. Hassan Al-Tambakti is increasingly ignored by Jorge Jesus. Faisal Al-Ghamdi and Marwan Al-Sahafi are totally invisible with NT despite firing forms in Belgium. Rayan Hamed has been prone to injuries. Abdullah Radif? He is sometimes used, sometimes not, and he is inconsistent. Ayman Yahya? He is used only to what Pioli like to use and never about serving his tactics with Al-Nassr. Ahmed Al-Ghamdi also does nothing with Al-Ittihad. Our hope lies entirely now on Talal Haji. He is our golden boy, at the age of 17 he has shone a lot. He should be given first team call-up.
Lets start with the Center Backs. Tambakti is a great CB and isn’t used much for Al Hilal because Jorge Jesus is blinded by his love for Bulayhi. Now let’s talk about Bulayhi. Bulayhi is a decent CB, but he is 35 years old. He is past it(still gets a lot of play time for Al hilal due to being one of Jorge Jesus’s favorites. There is also this very good young CB from Al-Qadisyah, his name is Jehad Thakri. He is a beast and should get called up. Same for Nader Al-Sharari from Al-Shabab, not as good as Thakri, but still very good. Now on to full backs, Al-Shahrani is old and washed but Renard loves him too much. Al-Harbi should be the starter for the Left Back position. As for Right Back, we are stacked we have Saud and if not him you can use Al-Shanqeeti or Sultan in that RB position. Now onto Midfield, A huge mistake Renard made is that he played Faisal in the DM role which is not a good idea. Somebody who can play DM is Al-Khaibari. Musab and Kanno/Faisal should be the two central midfielders starting. Now for the attack, let’s start with the left wingers. You have Salem Al-Dawsari and then Ghareeb. Salem should still start imo he still creates alot of chances for the NT. On the right, theres only two options Al-Qahtani and Al-Hamdan. I would take Hamdan because, he has more experience. Now, for strikers it should be Al-Sahafi, but Renard still see’s him as a winger when he’s been playing in the Belgian League as A STRIKER, Not a winger. Al-Shehri and Al-Brikan are both pretty bad but, there is another good option, that being Abdulla Al Salem from Al-Khaleej who has been having a great season with 7 goals in the Saudi League.
@ Al-Sahafi should be promoted as striker. The whole system failed to function because he was assigned as a MF. But who the hell know what Renard is thinking.
Realistic points : Indo vs Aussie 0/1 Indo vs China 3 Indo vs Bahrain 3 Indo vs Japan 0/1 Previous points 6 + 6 at least 12 Lucky enough to have 13-14 points
@@mangalobby6968 Unless they stick to the game plan that works (their forte of counterattacking football, and forcing China into the uncomfy situation of defending set pieces)! Indonesia only lost to China in Qingdao due to STY's mistaken choice of tactics... I think Indonesia can finish somewhere between 10-15 pts! Though I doubt anyone besides Japan in Group Chaos will finish above 15 pts anyway... 🤣🤣🤣
It’s way too eary for Indonesia team to qualify if they are in 2026 world cup by luck , they will lose massively like 4-0 or maybe more have you seen what japan did while they were at 70% they will be 20 teams like them in the world cup.
It would be best for Australia & Saudi to miss the next World Cup. They are in the mud. It's either that or get grouped in a 48 team tournament. The other 3 (🇨🇳🇧🇭🇮🇩) could get away with being grouped due to their lack of WC experience. Not gonna lie, i can't wait for March and June. Group Cook.
Though I think Bahrain will be an outright embarrassment as well! They are no better than Qatar (arguably even worse), and we all know how well Qatar did in their HOME World Cup! 🤣🤣🤣
Jack you grilled the saudis bro so warranted too radif and kanno are frauds they play these qualifiers likes its scrimmage. the japan game wass the only intense performance from saudi and they had no choice they wouldve lost 4-0 if they didnt bring their a game. and to answer your question Jack: yes, china is absolutely going round 4 and bahrain is absolutely finishing 6th unless saudi do it for them
resign/sacked coaches after match against Indonesia : - Kuwait coach Vítzslav Lavika resign (Asian Cup Qualifiers 2023) - Vietnam coach Philippe Troussier got sacked (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers second round) - Korea (U-23) coach Hwang Sun-hong got sacked (AFC U23 Asian Cup 2024 knockout stage) - Australia coach Graham Arnold resign (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers third round) - Saudi Arabia coach Roberto Mancini got sacked (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers third round) - Saudi Arabia coach Herve Renard resign (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers third round) rumor said China coach Branko Ivankovic will be sacked if they lose against Indonesia next match.
I don’t want The Saudi national team to go to world cup If they perform so bad in the qualifiers matches just imagine how bad they will do in world cup , i give up watching this national team. it is so depressing to watch.
I think if you say that Saudi Arabia in Round 3 is called a weak team in Group C, I think you are very wrong 😂😂😂 Please see FIFA WORLD CUP QUALIFIER ROUND 2 They can score 12 goals and concede 3 goals, that's a beautiful thing, isn't it? 😮😮😮 This means that in Group C outside Japan, everyone is equally strong. ( 🇮🇩🇦🇺🇧🇭🇨🇳🇸🇦 ) What makes Round 3 different is just the carelessness of one of the teams which will benefit the opponent or the host team. 😂😂😂
Given we, Uzbeks, still remember how Bahrain and Saudi Arabia robbed our 2006 World Cup, to how Indonesians disrespected our U23 team when they lost to us, we would prefer China, Australia and Japan to qualify instead. But Group C is crazy, and I realise that.
Most of us Indonesian looking up to uzbekistan just like iraq (even on the technical side, u are better). We have a lot of people, so that we also we have a lot of stupid people too. But still most of us respect uzbekIstan, that were disrespect u just super small numbers. If any that majority indonesian hate would be bahrain and qatar, and until recently but not anymore, vietnam.
Indonesian fans prolly just a bunch of jackass but we've never paid the refree we swear. Some people might think that our insulit or talking smuck were too extreme but it's just south East Asian football in general.
Arab, qatar and bahrain is nothing just a shit in the dust if referee did not help them and offcourse if they play fair without the easy touch down dramas!
Indonesia is a weird team. They are like Tottenham Hotspurs, always have potential only to collapse for seconds. I will be surprised if they even manage to qualify. Their forms are a mixture of impressive, yet torrid, chaotic and unstable.
Hello, my friend. I have a suggestion: how about creating a feature on the history of Indonesian football development? I’m not saying this just because I’m Indonesian, but because many people around the world are wondering how Indonesia’s football has developed so rapidly in recent years. To address the curiosity and questions of a global audience, it would be great to explore how Indonesia managed to emerge as a growing football power. A detailed feature on this topic could provide valuable insights for your audience and help answer why Indonesian football has progressed so significantly on the global stage.🇮🇩👑
Some STY haters: "STY OUT! HE MUST QUIT! USING DIASPORA PLAYER STILL LOSE!! BOHOOO. ITS WORST TIMNAS EVER!" Also Saudi and Aussie who change their coach:"bruh." Even after changed their coach, still saudi and aussie cant improve that much. 😅
I like your opinion bro! Don't forget to say that to anticipate the incoming March window, we have been working to ask Romeny and some more to solidify the team. The incoming matchs will be very interisting. Watching from DR Congo, Africa.
The news saying Shin Tae-yong will be sacked if he doesn’t win against Saudi Arabia is just random talk from football fans trying to blame someone for their frustration. Almost everyone in Indonesia loves Shin Tae-Yong, even though the results haven’t been perfect yet.
People who wants Shin Tae Yong sacked back home are pure haters who wants his head no matter the results. It may be true that having mostly European based players as starters made some people thought that we should have European coach to perform better but unfortunately some Shin Tae Yong head hunters in the media especially had been haters all along from the very beginning..
Bruh theyre like those cricket fans who think they can request federations to remove players….so spineless
@learningvideosbynikhil8308 Thank you for pointing out the similarities. You have no Idea how spineless these haters are(Sorry I guess you know 😉 ), they are like cancer in Indonesian football.
In Indonesia now there are two camps.... the camp that does not like the development of the Indonesian national team.... they also hate Shin Tae Yong and players of descent.... let's call it 'Local Pride'
And the camp that supports the national team... and really supports players of descent....
Saya tidak suka dengan sty yg terlalu defense 😄😄.. gagal menang melawan tim juru kunci China
Japan is genuine contender for world cup 26, not just Asian giant..
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Japan is the class of the AFC. They left Asia and have joined Europe. Too strong
This group is crazy. No logic follows in this table, except Japan.
Even Japan strength is no logic😂
If so, Japan should have been invincible already with no goals conceded, scoring at a bare minimum of 5 goals, and winning all their matches.
@@gerardkhachaturyan4814 wow, you're so fun at a party🙃
Japan has Captain Tsubasa and Blue Lock power. What can we say? 😂
@@gerardkhachaturyan4814 How about your Armenia focusing on Georgia first rather than obsession with Japan?
Group C stand for CHAOS 😂
Grup C no indonesia no party😂
chaotic 😂
If Indonesia qualifies for the 2026 world cup, Indonesia is the only team to qualify from the bottom of the ladder, from play-off round 1, qualify for round 1, qualify for round 2 and hopefully qualify for round 3/4.
AND the lowest world rank/ FIFA rank EVER to play in the WC!
World says "Indonesia join in The group of Hell"
Indonesian says "Welcome to the jungle"😂😂😂
Japan is very good team
Fans in Indonesia critized Shin Tae-hong of his first team decision. He kept changing winning team. Poor decision of attacking strategy against China with high defense was a proof that Indonesia was more suitable as counter attack team due to pacey strikers and very good with long ball.
LOL, it's pretty ironic even funny. These Dutch-Indonesian players grew up being fed with philosophy of total football à la Cruyff where football is all about creativity, precise passing neat from foot to foot, and elegant playmakers controlling the game. But somehow, Shin Tae-yong turned them into a team that relies solely on counterattacks, minimal creativity, pragmatic play, and an over-reliance on individual skill none of which seem to be part of Cruyff’s total football curriculum. Creativity in midfield? Gone. Player spacing in midfield? So far.... Sure counterattacking might work against stronger teams. It’s logical: sit deep, stay compact, wait for your moment, and then sprint forward with your pacey strikers.... But against weaker teams on paper, like Bahrain or China? It’s a disaster. The team looks confused. Where’s the creativity? How do you break down a low block? They’re so used to waiting for opponents to attack that when they have to dictate the game, they end up running in circles, clueless. That’s classic STY
Take Thom Haye, for example a natural deep-lying playmaker, yet he’s being forced to play like a Gattuso or some knock-off Park Ji-sung, running around aimlessly, burning energy, with no room for creativity just longpass longpass longball longball. By the 65th minute, it’s no surprise he’s gassed out. Meanwhile players like Ragnar Oratmangoen or Rafael Struick might thrive in this system since they’re more defensively inclined and have solid stamina. And Asnawi? Well his 120% effort makes him perfect for this style, but let’s be real he lacks the vision and ends up playing recklessly.... But honestly how can you take a team with the potential for beautiful creative football and turn them into a "run fast, counter fast" squad? If this keeps up, when will we ever see Indonesia capable do well dominate a game and control possession with style? especially against team weaker on paper
The talk about sacking Shin Tae-Yong were mostly from a faction of Indonesian fans lead by a local pundit that hates STY and using descendants players. The guy keep calling for Shin Tae-Yong to be sack for every small mistake pretty much, and the pundit wants to make the national team to only play people playing in Indonesian's league, no abroad players. And the double losses against china and Japan made that group that follows said pundit to become so vocal that some news media decided to cover on that for clicks and views. Majority of the fans doesn't call for Shin Tae-Yong's head to be on the block
Indonesia is in the process of developing... it's different from Japan which has become a giant in Asia and the world, so as supporters of Indonesia... we can only support whether we win or lose... keep moving forward, Indonesia
Just wanted to say I genuinely agree with all of ur takes. Also, unlike most youtubers who over Asian World Cup qualifiers, they tend to have some bias for a team while you always seem quite fair to every team, along with Michael Talks Football, so big thanks to you two.
And well I am a Chinese supporter, so as for China going to fourth round, I think it's a possibility, but I won't get my hopes high. They don't have to face Japan anymore, so thats a relief and an advantage. Also to note China always has strong history of giving their supporters lots of hope, such as winning some games and being in a great position to qualify for world cup, and then they throw it all away and lose an important match.
And some more thoughts:
Branko Ivankovic did say in an interview before the game that they did indeed work on defending set pieces, but that obviously did not turn out so great. And for Wu Lei, well he is our captain and at 33 years old he still dominates the Chinese super league, so he will be a part of the last four matches. As long as he stays fit, he's still the best Chinese player right now by a lot. It's really good to see young players taking part, as last Asian cup we had the second oldest team competing. Fun fact the game against Bahrain was the first time Branko Ivankovic fielded 0 naturalised players, so that was cool.
Kami tunggu kalian di Indonesia supporter yang arogan yang tidak sopan pada tamu nya
The president of afc is from bahrain. Some believe there is money play in afc or favouritism towards some middle eastern countries. Before china bahrain match, china also asked the referree to be non middle east origin. But now that afcmafia tags became viral, i think maybe fifa is paying more attention to this issue. Bahrain request afc to let indonesia bahrain match to be in neutral place instead of indonesia, afc didnt answer, fifa was the one told them to play at indonesian home.
Hello, man, a little tip from a Chinese supporter:
In fact, excluding set pieces, China conceded 9 goals: in that 7-0 match, Japan's first goal came from a corner kick, Endo's header, and Indonesia's Tom Haye's goal came from China's defensive error in the throw-in.
yah benar gol Indonesia karena kesalahan pemain China, tapi tahukah anda lemparan jauh dari pemain Indonesia arhan pratama itu sudah terkenal disini karena sering membuahkan hasil gol hampir disetiap pertandingan.
Indonesia almost went to the 1986 world cup in Mexico if they beat South Korea in the last match ... Unfortunately we lost
I think Australia need to finally make their debut in AFF cup 😅💀
agree
Then Indonesia should actively help abolishing the clause instituted back in 2013, which banned Australia from joining.
Most people don't realise that we have always wanted to join the competition, but they won't allow us to
10:23 a lot of Aussies wouldn't have heard of Hayden Matthews yet. He plays for my club. He's big, he's tall, the classic style CB we love to bits down under. Even I was surprised he got a start, I genuinely thought he was just getting picked to be in the squad for the experience. Very good player, but realistically needs a season or 2 more of pro football under his belt. the idea of Him and Souttar in a few years tho, we're gunna be massive at the back. literally. Agree with Geria being good btw. The guy has been a rock for Melbourne Victory forever, reliable, gives 100% happy to see him get a chance. But therein lies the problem., When it comes it to defenders, we could pick a team of players non-aussies have never heard about and probably still be solid as hell at the back, whereas even our best attackers just aren't cutting it in Asia right now. I appreciate deadball tv's faith that Australia will still finish 2nd, but just do it in the most boring fashion possible. Sounds about right. 😂
Indonesia is so unlucky to be in the same group of Japan. It's not easy to face Mitoma even for the best defender of Pl.
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It is indeed a great day my friend
Bahrain are the only 1 i can see kicking the bucket & i thought they be good to go. I'm not surprised if Australia get 3rd or 4th spot, but I'll be disappointed.
I'm glad to see if Indonesia or China in 2nd place.
They just cheat their way to draw or win, the diving crying is so frustrating to watch
@@saanstarantolin2641 And when Bahrain can get away with bribing refs, they will!
Australia is basically the Portugal of AFC - they love doing things THE HARD WAY! 🤣🙈🤦♂️
Are you Australian?
As a Chinese fan on god set pieces against China is like conceding literal penalties every time there's a corner or dead ball situation my heart aches like mad.
Final Group C
1 Japan
2 Indonesia
3 Australia
4 Saudi Arabia
5 Cina
6 Bahrain
I think the last 3 are Aus, Saudi & Bahrain. Bahrain must be the worst team on the list. they played discusting
DONT BE TOO COCKY INDON
John Cina
@@aniki12345 bahrain and saudi is the cheating team so must be a losser in this qualifying wc 2026. 😜😜😜😜😜
Good prediction.. i think its logic comment because indonesia unpredictable team, australia until now still unconsisten team.. saudi arabia not performing well..
Hey pal. From a Swede who lived in Australia for three years. Greeting from the beautiful north.
I think Australia will need to wonder what has gone wrong with them after six matches before they can resume their campaign in March. They're so lucky to remain second since October, partly because the rest (except Japan) is equally terrible.
Our Sweden has just changed manager from Jan Andersson to now Jon Dahl Tomasson, whose success with Malmö earned him the job, and we are still trying to adjust on how good Tomasson going to be. Yes, our Nations League is a success, but I can't say if we can qualify for the World Cup in North America. Tomasson is still new to the coaching position and, while we prioritise long term gains, we need to be patient with what Tomasson can do.
Blame that they just hired Tony Popovic maybe, but I am trying to be nuanced given the Sweden experience. I am sure that Aussies are not happy with Popovic being appointed, but he has just four matches and he needs time to adjust to what he is doing.
okay jack japan at the semifinal is crazy glaze of crazy proportions , their defense got bombarded by iraq
I’m not so sure , let them get to their first quarter final in their history
The question over Saudi Arabia's malaise in this group earns me more attention, given I have friends working in football transfer markets in KSA.
The reality is Herve Renard isn't smart. He has the motivational spirit and energy, but he doesn't have the ability to maintain earlier successes. In fact, his past triumphs in Africa and Saudi Arabia (1st) has a lot to do with Patrice Beaumelle and Laurent Bonadei, who were his previous assistants and also the smart ones. Renard's new assistant, David Ducci, doesn't have the astuteness of the previous two, and this is the reason why Saudi Arabia is so terrible. Additionally, Renard's high-tempo pressing, a legacy of Beaumelle, is no longer strange to other opponents anymore, so I think the situation will turn worse for them if they can't accept this fact.
With Indonesia, they are like Tottenham, they can get big win and can also collapse very quickly. Given the high morale of the Indonesians at the moment, let's expect their upcoming next year collapse.
You identified well. Or maybe your friends. Patrice Beaumelle was Renard's assistant during the 2018 World Cup and I recognised his ability to influence the game. Renard seems to be restricted only to the role of an influencer. A talented motivator but not a great coach. Beaumelle deserved more recognition for his contribution.
I’m Indonesian and i want to share the good and bad so what you mean by “collapse” is arguable
here are the positives about Indonesia national team:
- great fighting spirit
- very direct counter attack
- great supporters atmosphere
- discipline defenders
- no drama and great sportmanship
- they had a good situation internally, they believe each other
and here are what Indonesia National team lacks:
- individual error, sometimes lead to opponent’s goal
- finishers
- consistency, sometimes they play great but sometimes not. maybe the chemistry was not there if the coach still changes too many players on every match
- some player still not play a simple game like pass and move. they still like to dribble and dribble
- some players are easily provoked /can’t control emotion (many young footballer)
- i don’t see any tactics adjustment if the team face a deadlock. just Arhan’s throw in
@@dga4914 There is a reason why Indonesia is basically the Tottenham of Asian football - they are not stable enough to make good performances. Yes, they can win big, but can also falter very fast.
Remember the same Tottenham at the EPL that had just shocked the world by beating 4-0 Man City, yet at the same time unable to beat a newcomer like Ipswich or a Roma in crisis? That's Indonesia.
Koran tempo ngab
Don forget Indonesian always Runner-up
Kalian patut berbangga bila ini terjadi
Semoga kutukan piala AFF terjadi di grup ini
asian cup kmaren gk runner up
To answer your question whether Indonesia is legit or not I believe the match against Australia will decide if Indonesia will finish Top 2 or not, and if we lose against Australia then that's it we're not there yet. Just aim for the 4th round. Let's see if we can get 2 win against China & Bahrain at home.
If I remember correctly, there are no terms for Shin Tae Yong to be qualified in his Contract.. So he can't be sacked if not being qualified 😅..
The one who said STYOUT are the one who need blame someone for their frustration, even tho looking down to China was a bad move from STY tho, IMHO
Thanks mate. I think Indonesia beating the Saudis was a massive favour to Australia and as you suggest may be enough for us to steal second place. Australia do better against the stronger sides where they can play to their strength of being tough to break down and relying on some individual brilliance on the counter - got them a long way in the last WC. When they have to boss the game against supposedly weaker sides, the lack of go forward cohesian starts to get a bit embarassing. I don't know what Kye Rowles has done to Popovic but he and Soutar were solid at the last WC and so how Cam Burgess can continue to make mistakes but keep his place i don't know. I'm a Caceres fan - he has been one of those frustrating players with enormous talent who just hasn't gone on to the heights - he was once signed by the City Football Group. However he has been playing his best football the last couple of years and bossing the Aleague with Sydney FC so I have been happy to see him get a go. Riley Mc has been living off his scorpian kick goal for far too long and needs to actually produce some quality more consistently. Yengi got two goals against Bahrain but missed a hatful of other chances, so the (long long) search for a no 9 goes on. Irakunda might be the answer but not clear where his head is at. In the absence of Matthew Leckie, Craig Goodwin is the only genuine attacking quality the Socceroos have. But as you say, you can never fault the team's effort and I'm sure they will find a way to get to WC26 - might be another record number of qualifiers though!
I must be going crazy & losing my mind if Indonesia made it through World Cup 2026.
I am sure that Indonesia will create a new history by qualifying for WC 2026 as a runner-up of Group C which C does not only mean CHAOS but also means CHAMPION for Indonesia. Indonesia will probably defeat Australia and Bahrain in March 2025. Hopefully, aamiin insha Allah.
All my prediction of group c matchday 7 8 9 10
Japan3-1Bahrain
Australia 3-1 Indonesia
Saudi 2-0 china
Matchday 8
Bahrain 2-3 Indonesia (as a Bahraini fan)
Saudi 2-4 Japan
Australia 2-0 china
Matchday 9
Bahrain 3-2 saudi
Indonesia 3-1 china
Japan 2-2 Australia
Matchday 10
Bahrain 2-1 china
Indonesia 2-5 Japan
Saudi 1-2 Australia
To some extent, the fate of the other five teams is literally at the mercy of Japan. China and Bahrain, in particular, will inevitably lose sleep over this in the later windows next year.
Thank you so much for the reaction grup C. I support for fair play. No drama ... you know who play drama. I always pray for Garuda to fly up...
Garuda Garuda Garuda Garuda !!!!
japan always king of Asia 👑 🇯🇵❤
love from Korea❤❤
Japan have been tactically brilliant for many years now, this helps them and is why they always perform well in long league like competitions,
BUT Japanese teams always no matter how tactically brilliant, no matter how many world class individuals they have STRUGGLE in pressure situations, in a tournament/knockout structure, I dunno if it's their smaller physical size on average, or if it's a cultural thing, but Japanese teams struggle, in those games they seems to fold under the pressure of win lose games, the team seem to get pushed around (specially by the larger European and Africans) and will make silly mistakes, mistakes you don't see them make when it's WC qualifiers (where it's not knockout but a league like structure)
I remember back when I was young, 2.japanese youth teams came and toured Australia,. they played a handful of rep and academy teams here, my youth team played one of them, the team we played were incredibly gifted, they could pass us around the park, BUT they were all alot smaller and they would brake down with physicality and pressure, once we scored first, they started to make silly mistakes, poor shooting decisions etc, we beat them by a handful of goals, at the end of the game it was like some took losing like it was dishonourable.
I am Peruvian or distant Chinese-Japanese ancestry so I can tell that, I am happy for China's resurgence. Though I think China need to fix their set-piece issues. The fact that they neutralised successfully Indonesia and Bahrain's tricks show that they can make it right.
China can still qualify. Australia is not in good shape. Saudi Arabia and Bahrain are collapsing. Indonesia is the traditional Spursy (Indonesia Hotspurs or Tottenham Garuda). They have to find at least two wins against these teams.
Lol, Indonesia Hotspurs aka Tottenham Garuda is the best name for Indonesia now.
from group C only Bahrain are yet to qualify for FIFA world cup
I do agree with you, mate.
Disgrace for those who wants to dismissed Shin Tae Yong from his position, anyone, not only the citizen itself, but also the federation
19:10 the only thing Bahrain guaranteed is an Oscar for always acting against every team 😂 they really need to stop doing that shit, that's disgusting to watch, I mean this is 2024, the VAR era, they can't keep doing that kind of old tricks in football
10:32 stand up comedy 😂😂
Terima kasih.
I am Saudi American and I am so upset with the situation Saudi Arabia is in. This team, the current team we have, is lifeless, no soul, no spirit, and completely dysfunctional. We brought back Herve Renard but we have no improvement after two matches, and even our players are looking like they are going to be pressed back. This Renard look pale and lamer than before, he isn't the Renard we used to know before. Now I think even China smell our weaknesses and I don't think we can make it easy. It's gross disaster from top to bottom. I am worried, I am frightened for our Green Falcons. And I think everyone in my country agreed with it.
I think Saudi Arabia changed coach Mancini too quickly....
I will bet that Saudi won't get through this group
@@jeffreysuharto747 They are very unlikely to finish second at the rate they are going!
@@Meow-r2z Mancini deserved to be booted out from the job. But all I saw from two first games under Renard 2.0 was a team in total dysfunction. How the hell Renard allowed Australia and Indonesia to exploit our back so easily is unbelievable. We held goalless to Australia only for a catastrophe in Indonesia to follow.
I agree with you bro the reason saudi wasn't performing because of Mancini's style of play like he is too defensive and saudi arabia ain't defensive and like know how to waste time like other countries take a example against south korea we were 1-0 up and then boom they scored in 90+9 and we are obviously trash in pens as salem all dawsari missed two in a row which can gave us the win against bahrain and Indonesia in jeddah so Renard needs to fix this big issue
It's a mystery how Japan is so good in group stage yet so sucks in tournaments
Thats just show the quality of their opponent of the group stage translates that means if they sucks we are kinda shit
I mean turkey and Croatia were alright tbh….for some reason they didn’t push those opponents that hard! Turkey it was like cute passes leading to nothing and Croatia it was playing for penalties
2:28 The first half was so hard to take that I felt depressed 😢and upset 😠! It felt like having one of your relatives have an emergency 😢!
And ultimately I didn’t watch the second half
Insyaallah insyaallah insyaallah Indonesia bisa masuk piala dunia otomatis Runner up amin ya Rabb. insyaallah
Beat me but I am not clear how Renard could even save Saudi Arabia after their self-destruction, I am Moroccan and I know how Renard became terrible for us after the 2018 World Cup. Blame Roberto Mancini does not explain anything, because simply Saudis have very high ego and unwilling to admit their mistakes.
The systematic mistake of KSA comes from the depth of their culture. They believe they are supreme after the 2-1 win over Argentina, and this led to complacency and arrogance. In fact, Saudi Arabia has invested very little on improving their youth academy program, something that might surprise you given their richness. By divesting them to buy foreign superstars, they created a major loophole whose domestic players struggle to make up. You know the current top Saudi scorer in their Pro League this season? It's a 31-year old who has never got called up by the Saudi national team. Roberto Mancini was right about it, but interference and oversized confidence didn't allow them to face up.
Renard has also changed a lot. His luck is running out and with his persistent tactical issues, it's clear he can't win with the way how he is showing. He can't win with just motivation, but he must have the strategy on his mind. That's something he has failed.
Our FRMF leader Faouzi Lekjaa was correct that Renard need to go. After the loss to Benin in the 2019 AFCON, we wonder why did Renard leave and no one tried to persuade him back. Seems like Lekjaa saw something wrong with Renard already.
Shin tae yong used japan match to see his formation weakness. Thats why against saudi he prepared new tactic, including playing marselino as starter. Indonesia weak in midfield and conversing chance into a goal. Ole romeny already agreed to join our team as striker. Hope other players like Jairo riedewald, Miliano jonathan, Tijjani noslin, and other grade A players who have Indonesian blood agree to join our team. And hopefully we can win 2 home game against bahrain and china. Great video thx.
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If Indonesia beat Bahrain and China at home, Indonesia will have big chance to qualify to fourth round.
If on top of that also beating Australia (which is honestly a very tough one), Indonesia might go to WC2026.
Lets pray Indonesia win all the rest game, or 3 win and draw against Japan
What you also have to know is the China draw the sideline few meters smaller than usual for the game against Japan in order to do better pressing.
For me, this is an idiotic idea which China has to shame.
It’s unbelievable what they are doing but it’s also funny that China lost 1-3 in this game.
its acceptable, home court advantage just like EPL
Indonesia's advantage is that we will play at home against Bahrain and China and against Japan when they are certain to qualify. Hopefully. Indonesia will be lucky and be able to maximize their home results and hold off Austi in the away match 😊🔥🔥🔥
And NOT lose to Japan by a big margin (just 1-0 or 2-1 type margins) in June...
In matches between China and Japan, there have been documented instances of unsportsmanlike behavior from the Chinese side, such as narrowing the pitch dimensions to facilitate pressing, using drones for reconnaissance, and changing players’ jersey numbers at the last minute. Similarly, in the China vs. Indonesia match, the Chinese team employed the same tactics and secured a victory.
Given these precedents, if a match between Indonesia and China were to take place in Indonesia, it is reasonable to assume that the Chinese team would face challenges in replicating such actions. Without the ability to use drones for reconnaissance, China’s chances of defeating Indonesia on Indonesian soil would likely decrease significantly.
unsportsmanlike behavior? Home field advantage is a thing. Its like the U.S. national team when playing nations from central america choosing to play their games in Minnesota. Whether you like tactics or not, they are legal.
As a chinese fan, yes, china winning on indonesian soil wouldn't be easy. But China beat Bahrain away, so anything is possible.
@@astonVIlla-28 Is the use of drones legal? Of course not. Just mentioning it highlights the low human development index associated with such actions. This is why, despite having a population of 1.4 billion, China remains weak in football. From using lasers on players to other unsportsmanlike behavior, it’s clear that standards of civility are incredibly low. The only thing to take pride in seems to be a brainwashed sense of patriotism.
Without the ability to cheat, China is bound to lose to Indonesia.
@@astonVIlla-28 The discussion here pertains to sportsmanship, not the legality of actions within the rules. It might be beneficial for you to start by understanding the primary subject at hand.
@@astonVIlla-28you can't read don't you?😂
I get the distinction you're making, but honestly, you're overcomplicating it. Home-field advantage and strategic decisions have always been part of sports, whether you call them gamesmanship or unsportsmanlike. If these actions are within the rules, arguing about 'sportsmanship' feels more like nitpicking than addressing what really matters. The team that played better football wins.
Even in my high school varsity games, opposing teams would make us travel four hours and play a state semifinal at 11:30 pm. Was it unfair? Sure. But it was legal, and complaining about sportsmanship wouldn’t have changed anything. Teams focus on what gives them the edge-within the rules. Maybe that's just part of the game, and I have nothing to complain about.
As an Aussie, group C is definitely a cvnt of a group 😅
16:03 exactly! Indonesians in stadium still chanting Shin Tae Yong's name
You can't spell crazy and chaotic without C.
G'day Jack 👋
Another great video 📹 mate.
What can I say about my beloved Australia 🇦🇺 🤔???
We are absolutely toothless in attack! Granted, Kusini Yengi scored two goals vs. Bahrain 🇧🇭, however, he is not our number 9 moving forward. Mohamed Toure at Randers should be given a go at 9 in Tony Popovic's squad with Yengi at 10. Toure's goals and assist returns for Randers have been pretty good in the past few games. We also have Jason Cummings, who plays for Mohun Bagan SG in the Indian Super League. However, he's not even getting a look in.
How Popovic couldn't find a spot for Nestory Irunkunda in this window 🪟, slays me 😳! He is one of our best young prospects in many years, and he leaves him out of the squad to concentrate on his club football ⚽️ at Bayern Munich.
Another player is Alex Robertson at Cardiff City in the English Championship. Whatever is going on there with Robertson, Football Australia 🇦🇺 needs to sort this out ASAP. We desperately need him at number 8 to control the midfield.
Right now, our qualifying campaign is sitting on a knifes 🔪 edge. No less than 6 points in the March 2025 window vs. Indonesia 🇮🇩 and China 🇨🇳. Otherwise, we're in deep trouble.
japanese here👋🏼
if we beat Bahrain next match, we’ll mathematically qualify.
it means young players gonna play rest of 3 matches(vs saudi, australia and indonesia).
2022 qualifiers, we tied Vietnam at the last match but we already qualified at that time.
2018 qualifiers, same thing happened against saudi.
we tied Vietnam and everyone make fun of us…it could happen again.
we might tie or lose to saudi, australia and indonesia, but it doesn’t matter.
china and bahrain are just bad luck.
remind this when you’re gonna make predictions videos!
cheers☺️
Doubtful. Japan is clearly having the edge but given what's happened when they faced Saudi Arabia in the last WCQs, the Japanese have more incentive to knock Saudi Arabia out of the competition and consolidate the first place. Simple: terminate the threat before it grows. Given Japan always seeks to prepare for long game, I don't think they are going to overlook the March calendar.
The drive for Japan will be their desire for perfection. If they are to beat Bahrain (which is 99,5% possible), they will still try to beat Saudi Arabia so they can rest in June with ease. It's about planning for the future.
@@Ricoblueruint not sure if this is fake news or not, but i read japan wanna win all matches in this round 3, also hajime moriyasu said japan will help indonesia qualify?
@@diomuda7903 moriyasu might use main players against saudi anyway cuz he’d already call up main players for Bahrain on March.
but he doesn’t care if we’ll finish 1st or 2nd.
you can see the very last match against Vietnam of 2018 world cup qualifiers.
he used sub players and tied Vietnam and we dropped many points of fifa rankings.
this is the fact.
@@saanstarantolin2641FAKE NEWS 100%.
even in Japan, i heard news about Indonesian believe fake news and that is moriyasu said the kind of things.
Japanese laughed and now use it as meme.😂
I tried to find the fake video on youtube of indonesian community and wanted to know what moriyasu actually said, but the sound was muted.
Also I asked Indonesian there, where’s the original video but no one replied.
If you have the video of Moriyasu said that WITH SOUND, pls show me and
I’ll translate it.
@@Ricoblueruint got a feeling it was fake news cause ive never seen actual footage, some shorts with indonesian text only thats why i asked 😁 , dont think he would say such things aswell, the other teams might get automatically angry.
Radif is still young though so maybe they’ll give him more opportunities
Fyi,Pssi(indonesia football association) president already do and giveall what shin tae yong want,niw he want the results which is going round 4.Thats all,even he winning vs saudi pssi will still do the evaluation.We all love shin tae yong,but he should reconsider about what is he doin since china match.Glad we are back on the track
Analysis for Group C
This group is full of chaos. If you exclude Japan, the competition among the other teams is incredibly tight. Let’s start with Japan. Japan is on a completely different level compared to the other teams in this group. However, I am a bit hesitant about their performance against stronger opposition in competitive matches. While Japan has defeated big teams, these victories have mostly occurred in friendly matches. It’s a similar pattern to Colombia, which also boasts strong records in friendlies but tends to falter against tougher opponents in competitive settings.
I wouldn’t get too carried away with Japan’s results against weaker teams because they have struggled against Iraq, Iran, and Australia with the same team and coach. People often focus on flashy results instead of consistency. For instance, many Iranian fans criticize Iran’s close victories, not realizing that Iran is the best team in the world in 2024 in terms of consecutive wins-surpassing Spain and Japan. Iran recently moved above Mexico in the FIFA rankings, which is an impressive achievement.
Saudi Arabia
The situation for Saudi Arabia is concerning. Many players in their domestic league don’t get enough playing time due to the presence of elite foreign players. This disparity is evident when comparing Saudi teams to other Asian teams in the AFC Champions League. I believe this lack of minutes will hurt the national team. However, their new coach deserves more time to address these issues, as it’s too early to judge based on his recent results. The Gulf Cup could be a good opportunity for Saudi Arabia to address these problems.
Australia
Australia is the only team in this group that managed to secure a point against Japan. I believe they could achieve another draw against Japan, and even a single point might be enough for them to qualify. With many teams drawing against each other and losing to Japan, every point matters.
Indonesia
Indonesia is passionate about football, and their last appearance in the World Cup was ages ago under a different name. I think they have the potential to secure wins against Bahrain and China, and perhaps even manage a draw against Australia.
Bahrain
Bahrain is highly unpredictable. They often lose at home but manage to pick up points away. I wouldn’t be surprised if they secured points against Indonesia. At this stage, it’s hard to predict where they will finish in the group.
China
China has regained some momentum after a heavy loss to Japan. They are currently the only team with two wins and two losses. If they manage to secure two more wins, there’s a good chance they could finish second in the group.
Japan beat Germany and Spain at the last World Cup they definitely are a step ahead of the other Asians and Idc about a rigged Asian cup for that at the World Cup Japan is the one country that shows up for Asia mainly.
@@Eruma_27 Those results were from 3 years ago in 2022. Also, Japan lost to a weaker team like Costa Rica, and they have never passed the knockout stage. If Spain and Japan were to rematch right now, Japan would definitely lose because those results happen randomly. Furthermore, South Korea also beat Germany in the World Cup before Japan or Saudi Arabia beat Argentina, which went on to win the World Cup in 2022. These results don’t mean those teams are strong or above other Asian teams
The problem regarding Saudi Arabia is their new coach... not exactly new. He had worked with the Saudis between 2019-23, and it was him who masterminded Saudi Arabia's 2-1 win over Argentina. Saudi media had anticipated a great resurgence under Renard because Renard remains highly loved by the Saudi population.
The shock defeat to Indonesia dashed that hope. In just a few days, Saudi media turned from praising Renard for grinding Australia to a goalless draw into persistently bombarding Renard for the loss to Indonesia. That is not helped by the fact that Renard regarded the contract as basically a continuation of his previous one, not a new contract new life. Basically, Renard sowed to himself the pressure and Saudi media's impatience is also taking a toll.
@@diomuda7903 I noticed that people over there are impatient about the results . I am sure he will figure it out because he has a 4 month break with the Gulf Cup matches.
@@Alistair-r7s That's not the only issue. The other issue is his tactic. He is obsessed with tactics related to 3-4-3 or 4-3-3, with high-tempo pressing the feature of his strategy. However, they are not developed by Renard himself, but by his first assistant, Patrice Beaumelle. For a long time, because he had good assistants like Beaumelle and Laurent Bonadei, it worked.
This time, things are different. Renard no longer has Bonadei accompanying, and his next assistant, David Ducci, isn't as good as Bonadei or Beaumelle. Moreover, his high-tempo pressing has been exposed after the 2022 World Cup, and others have started developing counter-pressing strategies against Renard. The catastrophic November results came from these changes.
Renard's lucky charm is running out and given his history of inability to sustain earlier success, you have to wonder, what does Renard even have on his hands after the loss to Indonesia? His obsession with pressing tactics will be his own downfall unless he came to realise he has been exposed, though I remain in doubt.
What happened to the conmebol recap ?
Mantap....good review👍👍👍
Japan: Uchiha Madara
Arab Saudi: Raikage
Australia: Tsunade
China: Terumi mei mizukage
Bahrain: Onoiki Tsucikage
Indonesia Netherlands: Gaara Kazekage
Ini baru namanya pengamat Yang cerdas
2:44 power point
in, with all of the indonesian fans!!
the problem with STY is the starting 11 changing too much more like experiment, like against china? wtf was that. 5 or 6 new starting 11 like wth its important game but somehow 'lets do some experimental shit' there you go 0-4'
STY's contract is until 2027, he was given the target by the federation to qualify for Round 4. So it is not true that if he loses against Saudi he will be fired.
Yes, this is the best Indonesian victory in the history of Indonesian football.
"Don't blame Indonesian for wanting an instant result when the Federation are using the instant way (naturalized player)" - Indonesian football pundit
maybe that's why Indonesian want STY out, because he can't maximalize the naturalized player (after losing to china and japan)
So much worse after Erick Thohir (Indonesian Football Federation President) said that Indonesian players quality only below Japan & South Korea players.
But it's real life play team with 11 head playing together, they need chemistries to team working. Not like playing fifa when we add some new player and instansly working as a team.
Like everyone always said, even instant noodles still need a process before it can be eaten. We can have instant players but still need process before it can be a good team.
日本がワールドカップへの出場が出来なくなってもいいから欧州予選や南米予選で戦う日本代表が観たい。
Well, sounds a good idea though. also Australia, Guam and Northern Mariana go to OFC
Kanno is finished from 2022 he didn’t give any good performance after world cup but he still get chances with the national team before young talents how are better than him
In golf cup we should try some young player how deserve to play and we have allot
Kanno is important for Al-Hilal, hence why he is still used despite his mediocrity with NT after 2022. Sadly, we don't have good alternatives as seem to be. Saud Abdulhamid? He is the bench boy for Roma, the Italians aren't interested on using him. Hassan Al-Tambakti is increasingly ignored by Jorge Jesus. Faisal Al-Ghamdi and Marwan Al-Sahafi are totally invisible with NT despite firing forms in Belgium. Rayan Hamed has been prone to injuries. Abdullah Radif? He is sometimes used, sometimes not, and he is inconsistent. Ayman Yahya? He is used only to what Pioli like to use and never about serving his tactics with Al-Nassr. Ahmed Al-Ghamdi also does nothing with Al-Ittihad.
Our hope lies entirely now on Talal Haji. He is our golden boy, at the age of 17 he has shone a lot. He should be given first team call-up.
Lets start with the Center Backs. Tambakti is a great CB and isn’t used much for Al Hilal because Jorge Jesus is blinded by his love for Bulayhi. Now let’s talk about Bulayhi. Bulayhi is a decent CB, but he is 35 years old. He is past it(still gets a lot of play time for Al hilal due to being one of Jorge Jesus’s favorites. There is also this very good young CB from Al-Qadisyah, his name is Jehad Thakri. He is a beast and should get called up. Same for Nader Al-Sharari from Al-Shabab, not as good as Thakri, but still very good. Now on to full backs, Al-Shahrani is old and washed but Renard loves him too much. Al-Harbi should be the starter for the Left Back position. As for Right Back, we are stacked we have Saud and if not him you can use Al-Shanqeeti or Sultan in that RB position. Now onto Midfield, A huge mistake Renard made is that he played Faisal in the DM role which is not a good idea. Somebody who can play DM is Al-Khaibari. Musab and Kanno/Faisal should be the two central midfielders starting. Now for the attack, let’s start with the left wingers. You have Salem Al-Dawsari and then Ghareeb. Salem should still start imo he still creates alot of chances for the NT. On the right, theres only two options Al-Qahtani and Al-Hamdan. I would take Hamdan because, he has more experience. Now, for strikers it should be Al-Sahafi, but Renard still see’s him as a winger when he’s been playing in the Belgian League as A STRIKER, Not a winger. Al-Shehri and Al-Brikan are both pretty bad but, there is another good option, that being Abdulla Al Salem from Al-Khaleej who has been having a great season with 7 goals in the Saudi League.
@ Al-Sahafi should be promoted as striker. The whole system failed to function because he was assigned as a MF. But who the hell know what Renard is thinking.
It'd be amazing If Australia and Saudi finish last in the group giving the other teams a chance at the world cup
If you election people of Indonesia about STY
Love : 98 %
Nothing : 1,5 %
Hate? : just only garbich 0,5 %
Realistic points :
Indo vs Aussie 0/1
Indo vs China 3
Indo vs Bahrain 3
Indo vs Japan 0/1
Previous points 6 + 6 at least 12
Lucky enough to have 13-14 points
3 points against china might be not that realistic
@@mangalobby6968 Unless they stick to the game plan that works (their forte of counterattacking football, and forcing China into the uncomfy situation of defending set pieces)! Indonesia only lost to China in Qingdao due to STY's mistaken choice of tactics...
I think Indonesia can finish somewhere between 10-15 pts! Though I doubt anyone besides Japan in Group Chaos will finish above 15 pts anyway... 🤣🤣🤣
日本人として言わなければならないことの一つとして、日本ではブルーロックよりもイナズマイレブンの方がサッカーアニメとして偉大だということが挙げられます。
ブルーロックはまだ新しすぎる。
今のサムライブルーが子供の頃見ていたのはイナズマイレブンです。
みんなで鬼道のゴーグル着けよう
Nah... Dont shock even indonesia loss 10 zero from Bahrain Before 😅
Support Indonesia 🇮🇩
It’s way too eary for Indonesia team to qualify if they are in 2026 world cup by luck , they will lose massively like 4-0 or maybe more have you seen what japan did while they were at 70% they will be 20 teams like them in the world cup.
AFC: additional time until Bahrain score
私は日本人で現在、日本が他のアジア諸国を圧倒してるから言えることかもしれませんがワールドカップの参加国数は32カ国に戻し、アジアの出場枠は3に減らすべきだ。
It would be best for Australia & Saudi to miss the next World Cup. They are in the mud. It's either that or get grouped in a 48 team tournament. The other 3 (🇨🇳🇧🇭🇮🇩) could get away with being grouped due to their lack of WC experience. Not gonna lie, i can't wait for March and June. Group Cook.
Though I think Bahrain will be an outright embarrassment as well! They are no better than Qatar (arguably even worse), and we all know how well Qatar did in their HOME World Cup! 🤣🤣🤣
Jack you grilled the saudis bro so warranted too radif and kanno are frauds they play these qualifiers likes its scrimmage. the japan game wass the only intense performance from saudi and they had no choice they wouldve lost 4-0 if they didnt bring their a game.
and to answer your question Jack: yes, china is absolutely going round 4 and bahrain is absolutely finishing 6th unless saudi do it for them
resign/sacked coaches after match against Indonesia :
- Kuwait coach Vítzslav Lavika resign (Asian Cup Qualifiers 2023)
- Vietnam coach Philippe Troussier got sacked (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers second round)
- Korea (U-23) coach Hwang Sun-hong got sacked (AFC U23 Asian Cup 2024 knockout stage)
- Australia coach Graham Arnold resign (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers third round)
- Saudi Arabia coach Roberto Mancini got sacked (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers third round)
- Saudi Arabia coach Herve Renard resign (AFC World Cup 2026 Qualifiers third round)
rumor said China coach Branko Ivankovic will be sacked if they lose against Indonesia next match.
It was the Saudi Arabian team manager who resigned, not the coach Herve Renard
Saudi arabia will play in the 2025 edition of the gold cup.
I don’t want The Saudi national team to go to world cup If they perform so bad in the qualifiers matches just imagine how bad they will do in world cup , i give up watching this national team. it is so depressing to watch.
George Washington in Indonesia 😂
my prediction of final c rank will be:
1. Japan
2. Indonesia
3. China
4. Saudi
5. Asutralia
6. Bahrain
nice try p diddy
The worst enemy of indonesian Team are coach's Bad Decision and chemistry..
I think if you say that Saudi Arabia in Round 3 is called a weak team in Group C, I think you are very wrong 😂😂😂
Please see FIFA WORLD CUP QUALIFIER ROUND 2
They can score 12 goals and concede 3 goals, that's a beautiful thing, isn't it? 😮😮😮
This means that in Group C outside Japan, everyone is equally strong. ( 🇮🇩🇦🇺🇧🇭🇨🇳🇸🇦 )
What makes Round 3 different is just the carelessness of one of the teams which will benefit the opponent or the host team. 😂😂😂
Its kinda true tbh
Given we, Uzbeks, still remember how Bahrain and Saudi Arabia robbed our 2006 World Cup, to how Indonesians disrespected our U23 team when they lost to us, we would prefer China, Australia and Japan to qualify instead. But Group C is crazy, and I realise that.
They’re just eager fans bro thats all! It happens when they’re passionate!
Most of us Indonesian looking up to uzbekistan just like iraq (even on the technical side, u are better). We have a lot of people, so that we also we have a lot of stupid people too. But still most of us respect uzbekIstan, that were disrespect u just super small numbers.
If any that majority indonesian hate would be bahrain and qatar, and until recently but not anymore, vietnam.
Indonesian fans prolly just a bunch of jackass but we've never paid the refree we swear.
Some people might think that our insulit or talking smuck were too extreme but it's just south East Asian football in general.
Semoga Uzbek juga kalah, salam dari indonesia 🇮🇩🇮🇩❤🇵🇸🇵🇸
Arab, qatar and bahrain is nothing just a shit in the dust if referee did not help them and offcourse if they play fair without the easy touch down dramas!
pierre gasly
Group c is hell X
Indonesia is hell in group c V
AFC is the mafia's nest
Indonesia pasti lolos piala dunia..
Indonesia is a weird team. They are like Tottenham Hotspurs, always have potential only to collapse for seconds.
I will be surprised if they even manage to qualify. Their forms are a mixture of impressive, yet torrid, chaotic and unstable.
Australia atau arab saudi salah satu dari tim ini tidak seharusnya berada di grub c
Hello, my friend. I have a suggestion: how about creating a feature on the history of Indonesian football development?
I’m not saying this just because I’m Indonesian, but because many people around the world are wondering how Indonesia’s football has developed so rapidly in recent years.
To address the curiosity and questions of a global audience, it would be great to explore how Indonesia managed to emerge as a growing football power. A detailed feature on this topic could provide valuable insights for your audience and help answer why Indonesian football has progressed so significantly on the global stage.🇮🇩👑
Everyone knows why it developed so quickly: it was because of the massive trafficking of Dutch people for money❤😂
Some STY haters: "STY OUT! HE MUST QUIT! USING DIASPORA PLAYER STILL LOSE!! BOHOOO. ITS WORST TIMNAS EVER!"
Also Saudi and Aussie who change their coach:"bruh."
Even after changed their coach, still saudi and aussie cant improve that much. 😅
I like your opinion bro! Don't forget to say that to anticipate the incoming March window, we have been working to ask Romeny and some more to solidify the team. The incoming matchs will be very interisting. Watching from DR Congo, Africa.