Well done, nice shooting. I have regularly pushed my CZ 17HMR out to 175yards on rabbits in a completely dead calm, still air orchard, on summer evenings and never missed. (Hornaday 17 grain ammo). Instant kills on all shots. It is an amazing little caliber and although I love my .22LR semi autos for closer stuff (and a ton of fun!), my '17' will always be my go to rifle for serious and highly effective pest control work. Even with it's short barrel and a SAK mod, it never stops amazing me.
Yup and I just bought an Atec A12 shotgun silencer - doesn't even have to be registered on the licence in the UK! Another fun fact is that high capacity magazines for 10/22s were legal all those years they were banned in the USA
What nailed it in the UK was prossicutions and subsiquent damages for hearing loss under the health and safety legislation when police forces denied permission.
Nice video and hunting ethic too! I agree, the 17HMR can be quite capable out past 200 yards, on a calm day. Last range session, the last five-shot string off the bench, I put two rounds into the 10 ring and two inside the 8 ring, with one "flier" in the 5 ring on a standard 100yd small-bore rifle target... at 220yards. Love the 17HMR!
Good shooting my man. And those are some tight groups for 200 yards. I took my 17HMR Savage out to 225 yards and was consistently hitting 6 in. steel plates with the CCI Gamepoints 20gr. bullets. It isn't the best HMR rifle but I've been working on accurizing it, by working with varying torque settings on the action, and I'll soon be lapping the crown.
Nice vids. 1 MOA AT 200 yards with rimfire isn't something to be just modest about- especially with a very light projectile. I liked your CZ videos. I'm very much into .22lr rimfire at extended ranges. It becomes art besides finding the platform and ammunition.
Furthest I’ve thrown my hmr was 170 on a fox. Using the 17gr v max it dropped on the spot, which I was very surprised at. Unfortunately the 243 was dry on ammunition that day ... nice video, mate. ATB
Nice one . I'm getting a very similar group at 200 . Longest crow shot 220 yards , longest fox shot 160 yards. Great little round. But has its limitations.
Presumably when you state the mildot drop you have the scope on 10x ? It's suprizing just how far the 17 can be accurate. Friend of mine shoots very tight groups at 300m using the 17 Fireball . Lethal on Charlie.
@CLP same as Australia, There's no logical reason for Silencers/Supressors to be illegal and every reason for them to be on every high powered rifle. The left Minority groups have the power in Aus because we have spineless "leaders"...
in uk the small end guns there silencers are cheap , but the bigger guns you can pay a fortune, mine was £800 for my 243 same price as my gun, but half price of my scope,
@@kingkongsballsful try paying what you call a fortune. Then paying the US government an additional 200+ for their paperwork for a tax stamp only good for one surpressor then waiting over a year after paying all of that before you can go get it.
Really appreciate your video and ethics. After taking shots beyond the distances at crows you've stated. I agree with you completely. Keep up the shooting!
I finally threw my hat in the ring and bought a rifle in .17HMR. The rifle and ammo combo shoots sub 2" 10 shot groups at 200 yards. I'm really surprised by this rimfire! Thanks for the video, that's a really nice stock on your rifle. Looks like my Air Arms TX200❤
Great video Elliot. I might have a crack at a similar video and see how my Savage holds up. My only comment is the force the HMR has at 200 yards isn't enough to expand the bullet on a hare sized animal in my experience. I might do a similar video but try to figure out the best way to show impact force (maybe water bottles or maybe I can get some ballistics gel).
My hmr I can hit the red dot over an over an over at 200yrds, savage accu with bull barrel. Sweet sweet sweet go to varmint gun!!! Took many of coyote with it!!!
I get shrapnel on bunnies at 175 yards with Hornaday 17 grain V-max.......not tried to shoot live quarry any further, (and to be honest wouldn't) but I suspect they would break up...? Try using a block of wet clay at 200 yds and see what happens? Worth a test maybe.
I imagine with a longer barrel there would be less extreme spread my 93r17 has a 21"bbl I just got it a couple of days ago for 200$ new it's triggers not the greatest but it does want I need it to I wouldn't to test it at 200 Im using the Biggs death grip chair so it would be neat to see the group at 200
I don't know how much Anschutz rifles are over there but around here that is a 1100 dollar gun here and a $500 sound silencer and that scope is probably a $800 scope here so you got around $2000 to $2500 into that gun and rangefinder kind of expensive just to go out and tinker with. Middle class people here in US don't have that kind of money just to play with don't get me wrong I would love to have a Anschutz but I will have to go with a Savage or a CZ 455. But keep the videos coming I like watching them they are informative
done done CZ are as accurate as anything out there. Prices are also slightly different over here, too. The rifle was secondhand - I paid £500 for it. The scope was around £150 and the suppressor was £30
I believed that 17HMR delivers to small of a punch at 200. Depending of the animal and if there is enough energy left the bullets will go straight through without expanding. Am I right or wrong here?
If someone says "Can you hit that rat?" I say....."Which hair?" I really like hitting EXACTLY what I'm shooting at. .17cal. My favorite target rifle. I cut a blade of grass in half at 50 yards just to see if I could do it. First shot. I love that thing.
Great video. I have retired my 452 cz .After 3 Savage 17 wsm rifles l got a fluted barrel version that's a tack driver. It's a 200 yard gun any day. Look at the ballastic comprassions
I liked your video it's showing the kill range . One test on rabbits he was shooting at 300 yards but the hollow point never opened up it just went right through . He was shooting a cz at 200 just blew up in side rabbit .
Really like your down to earth approch. Many peoples issues with the 17hmr stem from assumptions and lack of knowledge of wind. The 17hmr has become my go to for RTA and live stock euthanasia. No more lead bouncing off curbs or shed floors. Bullet goes to nothing and in most cases does not exist the animals body on frontal spine aligned shots, internal hemorrhage is catastrophic and brain death instantaneous. In respect of RTA if the animal has collapsed in an inaccessible spot 30-50 yards away then it is more than capable of a well placed kill shot. All of this with very little noise or disturbance, and excellent safety.
liam tierney depends on why you want to upgrade. You may not see any accuracy/consistency gains because a lot of it is down to the factory ammo. My advice is to have a hold of one in the shop and see if feels like an upgrade
The 17 hmr is a top rabbit stopper and will do over 200 yards. mine is fitted with the ATN X sight day or night its brill. out shoots the 22 at distance with less drop.
Not really. At comparable distances it does not. Okay, If you fired the .22lr and the .17hmr in a 10mph wind at 300 yards, the .17 would probably deflect more but you wouldn't even be able to see the target in the scope of the .22. At sensible ranges. 50 or 100 yards. The .17 deflects less because its going 2.5x faster so less time for gravity and wind to have an effect.
@@shootfishspearstickley6937 i have both cz, and like the 22 better, the 17 is going on a trade in for a tikka t3, in 243, never got to grips with it, like new thumb hole very good out to 175yds but its not me, wont ever sell 22 its a great gun,
@@browningmaxus5360 not my problem if you are a crap shot mate. Im ex military and know how to adjust for wind and drop. Learn how to shoot before you talk about things you have no understanding of.
Have just found your channel and have subscribed and liked. At what distance was the rifle zeroed before taking the 200 yard shots? I've had numerous problems with Hornady V Max rounds, jammed in barrel, split cases, hang fires etc so changed to CCI 17 grain hollow point, after hundreds of rounds I've had not a single problem in the CZ 452. Many thanks for your time and effort.
Moorvale55 Hi Moorvale55, the rifle was zeroed at 100 yards. I always used Hornady without many problems. I've since sold the HMR and stuck with the trusty old CZ452 .22LR. I didn't find the extra few yards worth it. ATB
.17 hmr is easily capable of precision shots at 200 yards.. I trust the .17 to be jackrabbit accurate out to 300. I have shot it out to 600 yards but was unable to hit the rooster I was aiming at.
dude you got a 50mm scope of course you can make that shot , I've got two 50mm scopes one on a 7mm Remington mag and one on a 300 win mag just saying a 50mm scope on a .22 LR is not going to be night and day different .
for Aslan it's more of a test of consistency using factory ammo. In my opinion, it's not an everyday 200 yard cartridge. There's wind drift and the reduced expansion of the V-Max bullet to consider at lower velocities.
Doug Malone I Doug, I bought the SAK mod from my local gun shop. They a one of the cheaper moderators but often used as a benchmark when comparing other mods - an industry standard really
Well done, nice shooting. I have regularly pushed my CZ 17HMR out to 175yards on rabbits in a completely dead calm, still air orchard, on summer evenings and never missed. (Hornaday 17 grain ammo). Instant kills on all shots. It is an amazing little caliber and although I love my .22LR semi autos for closer stuff (and a ton of fun!), my '17' will always be my go to rifle for serious and highly effective pest control work. Even with it's short barrel and a SAK mod, it never stops amazing me.
I really wish suppressors were easily available and hassle free in the US
If Congress would grow a pair and pass the SHARE Act then they would be.
wewd Noise Act my good sir. And yes, I agree it is ridiculous that an attachment has such a dumb regulation.
Yup and I just bought an Atec A12 shotgun silencer - doesn't even have to be registered on the licence in the UK! Another fun fact is that high capacity magazines for 10/22s were legal all those years they were banned in the USA
at least they are legal.. they are banning Airsoft in Canada for god sakes . we want freedom from trudumb so bad .
What nailed it in the UK was prossicutions and subsiquent damages for hearing loss under the health and safety legislation when police forces denied permission.
Nice video and hunting ethic too! I agree, the 17HMR can be quite capable out past 200 yards, on a calm day. Last range session, the last five-shot string off the bench, I put two rounds into the 10 ring and two inside the 8 ring, with one "flier" in the 5 ring on a standard 100yd small-bore rifle target... at 220yards. Love the 17HMR!
Good shooting my man. And those are some tight groups for 200 yards. I took my 17HMR Savage out to 225 yards and was consistently hitting 6 in. steel plates with the CCI Gamepoints 20gr. bullets. It isn't the best HMR rifle but I've been working on accurizing it, by working with varying torque settings on the action, and I'll soon be lapping the crown.
what kind of scope?
Nice vids. 1 MOA AT 200 yards with rimfire isn't something to be just modest about- especially with a very light projectile. I liked your CZ videos. I'm very much into .22lr rimfire at extended ranges. It becomes art besides finding the platform and ammunition.
Furthest I’ve thrown my hmr was 170 on a fox. Using the 17gr v max it dropped on the spot, which I was very surprised at. Unfortunately the 243 was dry on ammunition that day ... nice video, mate.
ATB
My 17 HMR with the Sweet 17 scope on it makes nice shots out to 300 yards on sage rats.
Nice one . I'm getting a very similar group at 200 . Longest crow shot 220 yards , longest fox shot 160 yards. Great little round. But has its limitations.
Presumably when you state the mildot drop you have the scope on 10x ?
It's suprizing just how far the 17 can be accurate.
Friend of mine shoots very tight groups at 300m using the 17 Fireball .
Lethal on Charlie.
Hi Graham. The scope was actually set on x12 mag for those shots so it would be slightly less for x10 mag. I'm sure the .17 Fireball is lots of fun!
No music I want to hear the gun and all of its Beauty.
Get rid of that bloody music
Nice shooting! I have noticed a little wind pushes the 17HMR a bit, but that has to be expected.
Good shooting and thank you for demonstrating the .17 HMR capabilities.
that 30 quid silencer for you is like a $500 dollar silencer in the US.
that 30 quid silencer of his is not allowed in Canada.
But look on the other side Brett, I bet he paid 2x what an Anschutz costs in the States.
@CLP same as Australia, There's no logical reason for Silencers/Supressors to be illegal and every reason for them to be on every high powered rifle.
The left Minority groups have the power in Aus because we have spineless "leaders"...
in uk the small end guns there silencers are cheap , but the bigger guns you can pay a fortune, mine was £800 for my 243 same price as my gun, but half price of my scope,
@@kingkongsballsful try paying what you call a fortune. Then paying the US government an additional 200+ for their paperwork for a tax stamp only good for one surpressor then waiting over a year after paying all of that before you can go get it.
Really appreciate your video and ethics. After taking shots beyond the distances at crows you've stated. I agree with you completely. Keep up the shooting!
Wind....which we get alot of in my area is a huge factor in accuracy of the 17.
The windier it is the shorter distance I shoot.
Love the 17 tho.
Same
I finally threw my hat in the ring and bought a rifle in .17HMR. The rifle and ammo combo shoots sub 2" 10 shot groups at 200 yards. I'm really surprised by this rimfire! Thanks for the video, that's a really nice stock on your rifle. Looks like my Air Arms TX200❤
what scope are you using. I used to shoot with a 6-24x50 but i did switch to 9-12x50 but it might be weak for over 150 m. What you think? Thanks
Great video Elliot. I might have a crack at a similar video and see how my Savage holds up. My only comment is the force the HMR has at 200 yards isn't enough to expand the bullet on a hare sized animal in my experience. I might do a similar video but try to figure out the best way to show impact force (maybe water bottles or maybe I can get some ballistics gel).
Cheers pal. Interesting comment about the expansion. I might buy some cheap cans of fizzy coke to see what damage it does.
My hmr I can hit the red dot over an over an over at 200yrds, savage accu with bull barrel. Sweet sweet sweet go to varmint gun!!! Took many of coyote with it!!!
it may give you a group like that at 200 yrds mate, But the bullet will not fragment at 200 yards, Good video though, ATB
I get shrapnel on bunnies at 175 yards with Hornaday 17 grain V-max.......not tried to shoot live quarry any further, (and to be honest wouldn't) but I suspect they would break up...? Try using a block of wet clay at 200 yds and see what happens? Worth a test maybe.
I imagine with a longer barrel there would be less extreme spread my 93r17 has a 21"bbl I just got it a couple of days ago for 200$ new it's triggers not the greatest but it does want I need it to I wouldn't to test it at 200 Im using the Biggs death grip chair so it would be neat to see the group at 200
Very informative, all sectors. Maybe a little louder for commentary
. Little more American accent. Just great mate
I don't know how much Anschutz rifles are over there but around here that is a 1100 dollar gun here and a $500 sound silencer and that scope is probably a $800 scope here so you got around $2000 to $2500 into that gun and rangefinder kind of expensive just to go out and tinker with. Middle class people here in US don't have that kind of money just to play with don't get me wrong I would love to have a Anschutz but I will have to go with a Savage or a CZ 455. But keep the videos coming I like watching them they are informative
done done CZ are as accurate as anything out there. Prices are also slightly different over here, too. The rifle was secondhand - I paid £500 for it. The scope was around £150 and the suppressor was £30
Savage 93r btvss 17 hmr here is $411, then scopes are anywhere from $80 to $???.
Laby 70 I paid 190 for mine here in Louisiana. New in the box
excellent shooting..love the 17hmr round..great vid.
Thanks Richard, don't think I'd ever part with my HMR or .22LR, especially now I've found the CZ452's favorite choice of ammo
Not if the wind is blowing
I believed that 17HMR delivers to small of a punch at 200. Depending of the animal and if there is enough energy left the bullets will go straight through without expanding. Am I right or wrong here?
Thanks for the video tho
Prairie dogs between 195 to 214 , no problem!
If someone says "Can you hit that rat?" I say....."Which hair?" I really like hitting EXACTLY what I'm shooting at. .17cal. My favorite target rifle. I cut a blade of grass in half at 50 yards just to see if I could do it. First shot. I love that thing.
Why not I shoot the 17 Mach 2 Atleast that far.
Great video. I have retired my 452 cz .After 3 Savage 17 wsm rifles l got a fluted barrel version that's a tack driver. It's a 200 yard gun any day. Look at the ballastic comprassions
I liked your video it's showing the kill range . One test on rabbits he was shooting at 300 yards but the hollow point never opened up it just went right through . He was shooting a cz at 200 just blew up in side rabbit .
Hi mate, Iv just bought the same rifle with the sporter stock. How often do you clean barrel and do you rezero after you've cleaned it?? Thanks mate
Hi Richard, I found the rifle shot much better when the barrel wasn't cleaned. I wasted at least 20 rounds getting it back on track after a clean
Defiantly agree. Buy 300 rounds, zero rifle. When you've shot all 300, give it a good clean and buy 300 more. Fire 10 shots and then recheck zero.
Really like your down to earth approch. Many peoples issues with the 17hmr stem from assumptions and lack of knowledge of wind. The 17hmr has become my go to for RTA and live stock euthanasia. No more lead bouncing off curbs or shed floors. Bullet goes to nothing and in most cases does not exist the animals body on frontal spine aligned shots, internal hemorrhage is catastrophic and brain death instantaneous. In respect of RTA if the animal has collapsed in an inaccessible spot 30-50 yards away then it is more than capable of a well placed kill shot. All of this with very little noise or disturbance, and excellent safety.
Wyoming. 800+ Handles wind well for the weight. Savage acu/BSA swt17 good stuff
Hola amigo buen video yo tengo uno y lo estoy probando con que balas estabas tirando
That was a good test ,I just got this caliber rifle I hope it hold a group as well as yours did and I would be happy.
Rather the 22 mag
My 17 WSM outshoots my old 17 HRM by a long ways.
Mate you could get 300 yds out of that setup. 30 quid silencer how can I get one in Australia ?
It sure is , i made some very good shots at 200 yards
Thanks
Good video but please get in with it ..to much talking in begning
Love the music
It's a 200 yard rifle for squirrels
Not impressed. 17 hmr is to light
Oh right ok! Iv only just zeroed mine so I'll see what it's like. Thanks for your help mate
would you recommend the anschutz 1517 I currently have a browning tbolt in 17 hmr thinking of upgrading
liam tierney depends on why you want to upgrade. You may not see any accuracy/consistency gains because a lot of it is down to the factory ammo. My advice is to have a hold of one in the shop and see if feels like an upgrade
What kind of .17 home do you use?
better than a 22 wmr at 100
Well done. Nice video.
What Gun is that?
The 17 hmr is a top rabbit stopper and will do over 200 yards. mine is fitted with the ATN X sight day or night its brill.
out shoots the 22 at distance with less drop.
Colin Stewart it does get kicked around quite a bit more by the wind compared to the .22
the wind is a big factor in any shooting .. even my 308 can be out due to the wind but then that's at over 300 to 600 yards
Not really. At comparable distances it does not. Okay, If you fired the .22lr and the .17hmr in a 10mph wind at 300 yards, the .17 would probably deflect more but you wouldn't even be able to see the target in the scope of the .22.
At sensible ranges. 50 or 100 yards. The .17 deflects less because its going 2.5x faster so less time for gravity and wind to have an effect.
Nice, just put in for my FAC in both .17 and .22. Which would you suggest would be the better to purchase first, given limited funds?
Depends what you're shooting and when really. I'd suggest 22LR if it's daytime rabbit control and 17HMR if it's under the lamp at night
Super, thank you.
@@shootfishspearstickley6937 i have both cz, and like the 22 better, the 17 is going on a trade in for a tikka t3, in 243, never got to grips with it, like new thumb hole very good out to 175yds but its not me, wont ever sell 22 its a great gun,
Very well done. Good video.
great shooting cheers
Yeah it is and in fact i regularly shoot 300+ yards on rabbits
Rubbish
@@browningmaxus5360 not my problem if you are a crap shot mate.
Im ex military and know how to adjust for wind and drop.
Learn how to shoot before you talk about things you have no understanding of.
your CZ put hole one on the other at 135yards..
Luther du Plessis It did, after I realised it's preferred choice of ammo was Eley subs. Sold the HMR shortly after and replaced it with a 22 Hornet
I've got the same with a 14". I can get 1" at 150 yds. No wind. Can't work it out when it blows
Great Vid, Thanks
Have just found your channel and have subscribed and liked. At what distance was the rifle zeroed before taking the 200 yard shots? I've had numerous problems with Hornady V Max rounds, jammed in barrel, split cases, hang fires etc so changed to CCI 17 grain hollow point, after hundreds of rounds I've had not a single problem in the CZ 452. Many thanks for your time and effort.
Moorvale55 Hi Moorvale55, the rifle was zeroed at 100 yards. I always used Hornady without many problems. I've since sold the HMR and stuck with the trusty old CZ452 .22LR. I didn't find the extra few yards worth it. ATB
Thanks
Can this gun be bought in the UK?
oneill oneill yes.
I’d rather not hear that horrid music.
What wind meter do you use?
Katashtrophie Just a cheap one I found on Amazon for around £12. Still got it and it does a great job!
TriggerPullTV yea I got a similar cheapo one now also thanks.
.17 hmr is easily capable of precision shots at 200 yards.. I trust the .17 to be jackrabbit accurate out to 300. I have shot it out to 600 yards but was unable to hit the rooster I was aiming at.
Yes but insuffient velocity remaining for bullet expansion.
Not a surprise when its subsonic at 300
I have shot my old Enfield (two groove 1942 303) at two hundred yards and put ten rounds in the black, with open sights, just saying ( :
Hi mate whats the make of your rangefinder??
it would've probably been a Hawke 400 or something similar
ok mate from one elliottg to another thank you!
dude you got a 50mm scope of course you can make that shot , I've got two 50mm scopes one on a 7mm Remington mag and one on a 300 win mag just saying a 50mm scope on a .22 LR is not going to be night and day different .
Is The HMR a 200 Yard Rifle? Yes. The POI energy will be approx 89 Joules. It takes 44 Joules to penetrate a coyote skull.
for Aslan it's more of a test of consistency using factory ammo. In my opinion, it's not an everyday 200 yard cartridge. There's wind drift and the reduced expansion of the V-Max bullet to consider at lower velocities.
No... end of video.. and comments.. have a nice day.. glad I could help
Pretty snatchy at that trigger
That right Carlos 😂
Where did you get the silencer?
Doug Malone I Doug, I bought the SAK mod from my local gun shop. They a one of the cheaper moderators but often used as a benchmark when comparing other mods - an industry standard really