I have always had motorbikes, but recently I have acquired a ADV 350 and I absolutely love it. What a brilliant bike. Wish I went Scootering earlier much more fun than biking.
They sure are tony, I prefer it for touring as I can load up under the seat, put a top box on the back, and we're off. And its great fun to ride. I actually rode an x Max 300 and a forza 300 back to back with the adv recently. The other two feel like fat scooters, while the ADV feels like a solid motorcycle.
@@mototouro In Udon Thani I was torn between the 2024 Forza and the 2024 ADV, both are fantastic great value bikes. I opted for the ADV based on the high and wide handlebars which result in a very commanding riding position. So glad I did, and the suspension & shocks are fantastic at dealing with the less than perfect road surfaces in rural Thailand.
Great to hear Paulie 😃 I still love mine too, it's such a versatile bike. Have toured through Malaysia, and several long multi day tours in thailand, its been fantastic
@@paulietv2162 No problem at all. We organised our insurance and registration stickers before crossing. Would recommend crossing at Betong, beautiful riding and very quiet immigration 😃 Also, fuel stops are few and far between in that area of Malaysia so make sure you have a full tank 😉
Thank You for the video! Interesting perspective, but... "OVERCAUTIOUS"? You didn't put on any protection other than helmet mate! And most people would not consider getting splashed with dirt as a comfortable ride lol. I own Honda ADV350. It is nothing like dirt bike! And even thou i regularly go thru fields and forests for a few hundred meters - it is never for the fun of it. The suspension clearly lets you know "your butt wants back to the asphalt". Look at your posture there. You are always in seated position, where on a cross bike you would be standing on your feet compensating for the bumps. On ADV350 you just CANNOT stand! You would be dangerously close to the handlebar and feel unbalanced. Automatic transmission on the other hand is not the best equipment for assisting with engine breaking/thrusting. I love my Honda ADV350! It is one of the easiest motorcycles to learn to drive. Comfy and even luxurious by some measures, but not for crossing the country. No no no! Even the front wheel diameter tell you: it could easily dig into the soft terrain causing you to fall... Don't try it at home unless you wanna go "JACK ASS" movie style. Other than that try one! I sincerely encourage everyone to test ride Honda ADV350. I've seen bunch of new accessories for this scooter here on TH-cam. Bright new colors. I would even recommend it to older people who is looking for a safe affordable ride. HSTC, ABS. Well thought thru and capable model that also saves you money on gas. But not for those seeking a cross country experience. In this case get at least Honda XADV. Safe roads, have fun to all enthusiasts! Thanks again for the video, but be more careful my friend!
Figvam....wow! I am hereby giving you the winner 🏆 award for the most in depth and informative viewpoint to any of our videos so far. However, the main point I'm making in this video is it makes a fantastic touring bike that will also handle some off road, which I clearly state in the video. It's not an enduro bike, full stop. You are 💯 % correct it is not easy to stand up on this bike, but then the speeds you 'should' be doing negate this anyway. As for protective gear, good point too. My history with very powerful motorcycles on and off road, pleasure, racing etc, the ADV is never going to spot me off. I should set a better example though. Thank you for your response, it's always great to hear opinions from people of all skill levels in different environments ❤️
Very nice review. Looked very slick. I disagree with some of the content but your presentation deserves praise. The ADV 350 was the scooter that made me decide not to buy a scooter. I'll leave it at that.
Wow, sure you are not a video professional, that was a brilliant piece of work - I am an cusp of buying one so you might have made up my mind! Trouble is, I already have the 700cc version and might miss the horsepower!!!
Wow! Thanks 😊 definitely not a professional Dr, but I do have a strong passion for all things motorcycle and I hope that comes through. As for the ADV 750, I often ride with a guy who has one, and the 350 outruns it as soon as the bends become tighter. I love the extra storage space under the 350 too. If Honda could make this bike into a 500cc version, and keep everything else about it pretty much the same, I think it would be an ideal all around touring bike. Just got back from a five day tour through southern Thailand 🇹🇭 and Malaysia 🇲🇾 averaging around 350-500km a day and I must say it performed flawlessly again, as usual. Thanks 😊 again for your comment and..ride safe 🙏
Do you have any tips for gravel road or off-road ? I wanna try with half traction control but don’t have confidence for it. Just afraid i could crash it cuz these bike parts is long waits
Hi sadboi, It's will surprise you just how fast you can ride nearly any bike on gravel roads with practice. Corners, and obviously very rough ground, will be your biggest issues. Try to do all your braking for a corner in a straight line, then gently feed the power in, no coasting (ie. Rolling without throttle or braking), you will quickly develop a feel, and rhythm for the bike, and your confidence and speed will improve from there. It's a fairly well balanced motorcycle in corners, which helps. I rode the Forza 350 last week and definitely would not push that bike off road! As for traction control, I usually leave it on, but on really steep dirt hills, and in sand, it's annoying. Take it slowly to start with. You will instinctively know when it's ok to push it harder. Ride safe 🙏
I wear gloves with shorts, so I'll chime in. Ever been in Thailand? Wearing jeans isn't an option, nor is switching pants every time you hop on an off your scooter. You can however pop on gloves easily each time put on your helmet. No point in exposing your hands to injury simply because your legs are exposed right? I mean you do understand the reason we put on a helmet even while wearing short right? Same deal. I don't speak for everybody of course but most of us would wear different pants when riding in a milder climate.
On average, I travel app. 1000 km every 3-4 weeks on the highway, and I also frequently go camping with the XMAX 250 or PCX 125.. But I have difficulty on gravel roads. I know the ADV 350 is not an enduro motorcycle, but I think it is better than FORZA or XMAX on gravel roads. X ADV 750 is both expensive and unnecessary for me. My question is; If we ignore the engine power, is the ADV 350 slightly better than FORZA and XMAX on gravel and rural roads, or is there a significant difference?
It's much better than xmax 300 or forza 300, in every possible way in my opinion Rotaneta, that's both on, and off road. I have mainly a dirt bike background, motocross, dirt track etc. and as you pointed out, it's no enduro, but it will take you places you wouldn't normally go on a scooter, albeit slower. The suspension is quite good off road too, it doesn't bottom out easily for such a big bike. See if you can swing a test ride first. I also have a yamaha aerox 155, the ADV350 is way better off road than that, but it is a lot heavier too.
Hello I leave in samui and have already experienced this offroad track many times . I have an 350 ADV with ohlins rear suspension . You can’t go fast offroad cause this bike is too heavy with small wheels . The rear brake is useless and the front could be better. The power and the torque is good enough to ride steep slopes . I see thai people riding this track with very old scooters . Nice job Moto Touro to show our beautiful island and thank you.
What’s the main difference between the adv and the forza? Because I would try a lot of those things on the forza too tbh 😅 Also if you think about their world countries, the people there also drive pretty much any bike anywhere (mountains, gravel, dirt etc)
@@mototouro hi i have question .i plan to get this scooter soon . is this good on downhill traffic? especially here in phuket patong hill when its raining and its traffic also . its so scary when its raining hard on patong hill .
@jasminwu6360 know that hill well jasmin, it's great fun on a dry day. The ADV350 has both traction control and ABS. You shouldn't have any problems hiring one of these on Phuket, and I highly suggest you do. I have ridden the older forza 300 through there many times. I personally love pushing the adv to its limits on roads like from Kamala to Patong, it's a great bike. I bought mine in Bangkok and it was significantly cheaper than Koh Samui. Ride safe 🙏
Wait, doesn't "twist and go" mean a fully automatic (CVT) transmission? The kind that doesn't allow you to use engine to help brake the bike on long downhill grades? So once the brakes start to overheat.... no thanks!
I'm not talking about a steep road. I'm talking about coming down a very long downhill road. Like a mountain road. Explain how techy electronics overcome simple physics. Brakes will eventually overheat.@@mototouro
@ebx100 that would be exactly like the roads in the video then. And trust me, if you're going to overheat brakes, Koh Samui will do it. No issues on the ADV or any other scooters we ride here. Thanks for your input though 😊
Never had a cvt/scooter transmission that DIDN'T serve as an engine brake downhill... disappointingly so. I'd rather freewheel, and that would probably have saved my Navi a bit since I have a hilly commute, and that poor little thing wouldn't let me coast down the hills to both save gas and the little engine revving its guts out. If this DID freewheel downhill, that would be a selling point for me.
@paradoxworkshop4659 Nearly all the new scooters have a free-wheeling function now paradox. Honda click, Yamaha aerox, and of course the ADV. It works better on the ADV than it does on the aerox I own. I live on a hill with a km long winding road to the main intersection. I start off briefly with power then shut it off, it goes into 'neutral' and I coast all the way down. Quick blip of the throttle and it's back into engine braking/power mode. Would be nice if there was a way to switch this on or off easily though. Thanks for your informative comment 👍
Well, mine has Metzler front and rear here in thailand Nice really deep groove tyre with the cut going nearly 90° to the tread face, which seems to work well. If you could only see in real life where this bike went in the last two videos, you would be very impressed
@@mototouro I love Metzler tires! Had them as standard OEM tires on my 1990 Katana 750 in the States. Tried other brands like Dunlop and Michelin but always went back to the Metzlers.
I agree George, even back in my motocross days metzeler were always a top quality choice. Just finished a tour on the ADV350 through northern Malaysia and southern Thailand. Some incredible twisties and the stock tyres gave me the confidence to really have some fun 😃@georgecarlin2879
@@electricmotos Awesome, great to hear. It so happens I've chosen Vietnam as my place to retire and ride AND the Honda ADV350 is my chosen model to purchase. I haven't owned a bike in over 2 decades and really look fwd to riding again. I'll be in Vietnam latest by early May.
Hi sir my name is Amit from India . I am intrested Honda adv 350 scooty two wheeler . So can you manage online booking .i live in India mumbai side . I am intrested buying Honda adv 350 so pls rply me sir
Hi Amit, Yes, the Honda ADV350 is an excellent motorcycle for the price. I believe it should be available in India from April this year. Would pay to pre order from your Honda dealer
That shot was taken near the top of a mountain range on Koh Samui Thailand 🇹🇭 😀 I have never been to Nui beach ⛱️ but Nai Harn is one of my favourites on Phuket
THIS IS IMPOSIBLE TO LAND IN PH🇵🇭 SOIL DUE TO HONDA WONT RISK TO BRING SUCH GOOD BIKE TO LOOSE PROFIT WITH HIGHEST TAX 😂 THIS BIKE WILL ONLY BE IN EUROPEAN COUNTRY
I am currently touring Malaysia 🇲🇾 on this bike. I was told today it's not available in Malaysia either! It is a very good motorcycle for the price but it's not perfect Anthony
Actually, Fred this ADV350 here in thailand is cheaper to buy than what you would pay for a CT125 trail in most countries. The whole point of the video is you can have a super comfortable and fun touring bike for the open road, then when you get to the trails, the ADV is a lot more capable than most people think.
@@mototouro your TRK 500X is an excellent looking machine, too bad they aren't available in Canada. ☹ Wait a second, you're the same guy I chatted with about a month ago. I commented on your climb up that long hill on your TRK 500X. 🙂
Actually I had a CT125 and sadly I was disappointed on steep hills as the 125cc and the gearing lack power, I love the styling but I sold it and bought myself a ADV150 , much better top end steep hills. For off-road I have 2 CRF'S plus my trustworthy NC 750X for touring.
I have always had motorbikes, but recently I have acquired a ADV 350 and I absolutely love it. What a brilliant bike. Wish I went Scootering earlier much more fun than biking.
They sure are tony, I prefer it for touring as I can load up under the seat, put a top box on the back, and we're off. And its great fun to ride.
I actually rode an x Max 300 and a forza 300 back to back with the adv recently.
The other two feel like fat scooters, while the ADV feels like a solid motorcycle.
@@mototouro In Udon Thani I was torn between the 2024 Forza and the 2024 ADV, both are fantastic great value bikes. I opted for the ADV based on the high and wide handlebars which result in a very commanding riding position. So glad I did, and the suspension & shocks are fantastic at dealing with the less than perfect road surfaces in rural Thailand.
Great to hear Paulie 😃 I still love mine too, it's such a versatile bike. Have toured through Malaysia, and several long multi day tours in thailand, its been fantastic
@@mototouro Great to hear you are making the most of it 👍 Is it a hassle crossing the border into Malaysia MotoTouro?
@@paulietv2162 No problem at all. We organised our insurance and registration stickers before crossing.
Would recommend crossing at Betong, beautiful riding and very quiet immigration 😃
Also, fuel stops are few and far between in that area of Malaysia so make sure you have a full tank 😉
Thank You for the video! Interesting perspective, but...
"OVERCAUTIOUS"? You didn't put on any protection other than helmet mate! And most people would not consider getting splashed with dirt as a comfortable ride lol.
I own Honda ADV350. It is nothing like dirt bike! And even thou i regularly go thru fields and forests for a few hundred meters - it is never for the fun of it. The suspension clearly lets you know "your butt wants back to the asphalt". Look at your posture there. You are always in seated position, where on a cross bike you would be standing on your feet compensating for the bumps. On ADV350 you just CANNOT stand! You would be dangerously close to the handlebar and feel unbalanced. Automatic transmission on the other hand is not the best equipment for assisting with engine breaking/thrusting.
I love my Honda ADV350! It is one of the easiest motorcycles to learn to drive. Comfy and even luxurious by some measures, but not for crossing the country. No no no! Even the front wheel diameter tell you: it could easily dig into the soft terrain causing you to fall...
Don't try it at home unless you wanna go "JACK ASS" movie style.
Other than that try one! I sincerely encourage everyone to test ride Honda ADV350. I've seen bunch of new accessories for this scooter here on TH-cam. Bright new colors. I would even recommend it to older people who is looking for a safe affordable ride. HSTC, ABS. Well thought thru and capable model that also saves you money on gas. But not for those seeking a cross country experience. In this case get at least Honda XADV.
Safe roads, have fun to all enthusiasts!
Thanks again for the video, but be more careful my friend!
Figvam....wow! I am hereby giving you the winner 🏆 award for the most in depth and informative viewpoint to any of our videos so far.
However, the main point I'm making in this video is it makes a fantastic touring bike that will also handle some off road, which I clearly state in the video. It's not an enduro bike, full stop.
You are 💯 % correct it is not easy to stand up on this bike, but then the speeds you 'should' be doing negate this anyway.
As for protective gear, good point too. My history with very powerful motorcycles on and off road, pleasure, racing etc, the ADV is never going to spot me off.
I should set a better example though.
Thank you for your response, it's always great to hear opinions from people of all skill levels in different environments ❤️
@@mototouro In full agreement! Thanks for the reply! GL HF!
@figvam2349 my pleasure 🙏 looking forward to your next one 😀
Really hope to see them in the US soon
Hope so too reno, they're a great fun bike 😃
All i want to know is that whether this is better in terms of ride quality compared to forza 350 during city commute?
My dream scooty bike 👌 nice video
Surprisingly versatile motorcycle kam, will put out another video on it soon touring for 6 days 😃
And we're still waiting for it to come to the US...
Sweet, thanks for the review! You're the only one that I've seen with quite a bit of trail driving which was nice to see.
Very nice review. Looked very slick. I disagree with some of the content but your presentation deserves praise.
The ADV 350 was the scooter that made me decide not to buy a scooter. I'll leave it at that.
I don’t get it can you explain? I’m thinking of buying one
Wow, sure you are not a video professional, that was a brilliant piece of work - I am an cusp of buying one so you might have made up my mind! Trouble is, I already have the 700cc version and might miss the horsepower!!!
Wow! Thanks 😊 definitely not a professional Dr, but I do have a strong passion for all things motorcycle and I hope that comes through.
As for the ADV 750, I often ride with a guy who has one, and the 350 outruns it as soon as the bends become tighter.
I love the extra storage space under the 350 too.
If Honda could make this bike into a 500cc version, and keep everything else about it pretty much the same, I think it would be an ideal all around touring bike.
Just got back from a five day tour through southern Thailand 🇹🇭 and Malaysia 🇲🇾 averaging around 350-500km a day and I must say it performed flawlessly again, as usual.
Thanks 😊 again for your comment and..ride safe 🙏
Nice video! Do you think this scooter is good for long-distance touring?
On a scooter like this, you can go hundreds of miles without having a bumache or backache, done it many times.
Adv 350 is the best scooter by far so far 👌
Do you have any tips for gravel road or off-road ? I wanna try with half traction control but don’t have confidence for it.
Just afraid i could crash it cuz these bike parts is long waits
Hi sadboi,
It's will surprise you just how fast you can ride nearly any bike on gravel roads with practice.
Corners, and obviously very rough ground, will be your biggest issues.
Try to do all your braking for a corner in a straight line, then gently feed the power in, no coasting (ie. Rolling without throttle or braking), you will quickly develop a feel, and rhythm for the bike, and your confidence and speed will improve from there.
It's a fairly well balanced motorcycle in corners, which helps. I rode the Forza 350 last week and definitely would not push that bike off road!
As for traction control, I usually leave it on, but on really steep dirt hills, and in sand, it's annoying.
Take it slowly to start with. You will instinctively know when it's ok to push it harder.
Ride safe 🙏
Great video.
Not trolling, but why bother with gloves and then wear shorts?
Just asking
I wear gloves with shorts, so I'll chime in.
Ever been in Thailand? Wearing jeans isn't an option, nor is switching pants every time you hop on an off your scooter. You can however pop on gloves easily each time put on your helmet. No point in exposing your hands to injury simply because your legs are exposed right? I mean you do understand the reason we put on a helmet even while wearing short right? Same deal.
I don't speak for everybody of course but most of us would wear different pants when riding in a milder climate.
@@pol-u7l
Yeah i see your point, you could still pick your nose even without your kneecaps, right?
On average, I travel app. 1000 km every 3-4 weeks on the highway, and I also frequently go camping with the XMAX 250 or PCX 125.. But I have difficulty on gravel roads. I know the ADV 350 is not an enduro motorcycle, but I think it is better than FORZA or XMAX on gravel roads. X ADV 750 is both expensive and unnecessary for me. My question is; If we ignore the engine power, is the ADV 350 slightly better than FORZA and XMAX on gravel and rural roads, or is there a significant difference?
It's much better than xmax 300 or forza 300, in every possible way in my opinion Rotaneta, that's both on, and off road.
I have mainly a dirt bike background, motocross, dirt track etc. and as you pointed out, it's no enduro, but it will take you places you wouldn't normally go on a scooter, albeit slower.
The suspension is quite good off road too, it doesn't bottom out easily for such a big bike.
See if you can swing a test ride first.
I also have a yamaha aerox 155, the ADV350 is way better off road than that, but it is a lot heavier too.
Interesting video, do you think its possible to go a bit faster off road or will the suspension bottom out?
Hello I leave in samui and have already experienced this offroad track many times . I have an 350 ADV with ohlins rear suspension . You can’t go fast offroad cause this bike is too heavy with small wheels . The rear brake is useless and the front could be better. The power and the torque is good enough to ride steep slopes . I see thai people riding this track with very old scooters . Nice job Moto Touro to show our beautiful island and thank you.
does the honda have front and rear wheel drive?
What’s the main difference between the adv and the forza?
Because I would try a lot of those things on the forza too tbh 😅
Also if you think about their world countries, the people there also drive pretty much any bike anywhere (mountains, gravel, dirt etc)
im sorry i have a curiosity....its Phuket road??
It's in the title Angelo...Koh Samui.
It's the second biggest island 🏝 in Thailand. Phuket is the largest
@@mototouro 😱 Sorry i dont see...👍
@@angelomanzini Google maps Koh Samui
Trust me, I'm standing on it right now 😃
@@mototouro hi i have question .i plan to get this scooter soon . is this good on downhill traffic? especially here in phuket patong hill when its raining and its traffic also . its so scary when its raining hard on patong hill .
@jasminwu6360 know that hill well jasmin, it's great fun on a dry day.
The ADV350 has both traction control and ABS.
You shouldn't have any problems hiring one of these on Phuket, and I highly suggest you do.
I have ridden the older forza 300 through there many times.
I personally love pushing the adv to its limits on roads like from Kamala to Patong, it's a great bike.
I bought mine in Bangkok and it was significantly cheaper than Koh Samui.
Ride safe 🙏
Wait, doesn't "twist and go" mean a fully automatic (CVT) transmission? The kind that doesn't allow you to use engine to help brake the bike on long downhill grades? So once the brakes start to overheat.... no thanks!
Does have electronics to help with that ebx 😃 Although the camera won't show it, some of those downhills were very steep
I'm not talking about a steep road. I'm talking about coming down a very long downhill road. Like a mountain road. Explain how techy electronics overcome simple physics. Brakes will eventually overheat.@@mototouro
@ebx100 that would be exactly like the roads in the video then. And trust me, if you're going to overheat brakes, Koh Samui will do it. No issues on the ADV or any other scooters we ride here.
Thanks for your input though 😊
Never had a cvt/scooter transmission that DIDN'T serve as an engine brake downhill... disappointingly so.
I'd rather freewheel, and that would probably have saved my Navi a bit since I have a hilly commute, and that poor little thing wouldn't let me coast down the hills to both save gas and the little engine revving its guts out.
If this DID freewheel downhill, that would be a selling point for me.
@paradoxworkshop4659 Nearly all the new scooters have a free-wheeling function now paradox.
Honda click, Yamaha aerox, and of course the ADV.
It works better on the ADV than it does on the aerox I own.
I live on a hill with a km long winding road to the main intersection.
I start off briefly with power then shut it off, it goes into 'neutral' and I coast all the way down.
Quick blip of the throttle and it's back into engine braking/power mode.
Would be nice if there was a way to switch this on or off easily though.
Thanks for your informative comment 👍
What is the stock tire that comes on the front and rear?
Well, mine has Metzler front and rear here in thailand
Nice really deep groove tyre with the cut going nearly 90° to the tread face, which seems to work well.
If you could only see in real life where this bike went in the last two videos, you would be very impressed
@@mototouro I love Metzler tires! Had them as standard OEM tires on my 1990 Katana 750 in the States. Tried other brands like Dunlop and Michelin but always went back to the Metzlers.
I agree George, even back in my motocross days metzeler were always a top quality choice. Just finished a tour on the ADV350 through northern Malaysia and southern Thailand. Some incredible twisties and the stock tyres gave me the confidence to really have some fun 😃@georgecarlin2879
@@electricmotos Awesome, great to hear. It so happens I've chosen Vietnam as my place to retire and ride AND the Honda ADV350 is my chosen model to purchase. I haven't owned a bike in over 2 decades and really look fwd to riding again. I'll be in Vietnam latest by early May.
Hi sir my name is Amit from India . I am intrested Honda adv 350 scooty two wheeler . So can you manage online booking .i live in India mumbai side . I am intrested buying Honda adv 350 so pls rply me sir
Hi Amit, Yes, the Honda ADV350 is an excellent motorcycle for the price.
I believe it should be available in India from April this year.
Would pay to pre order from your Honda dealer
@@mototourothank you for sharing rply
looks like a road to a secert beach in phuket.
Nui Beach
That shot was taken near the top of a mountain range on Koh Samui Thailand 🇹🇭 😀 I have never been to Nui beach ⛱️ but Nai Harn is one of my favourites on Phuket
Good luck finding a secret beach with all the draft dodgers on that island
well with 5kmh i can go off road even with my lead 50
Very true, I carry one in my backpack in case of emergencies 😁
I really wonder: is this a promotional video from Honda?
Well RL, if itchy boots can't get a free bike out of Honda, I doubt we will 😃
เกาะสมุย Koh samui
Honda Canada ... Yes please.
Forza and xmax not for semi offroad
THIS IS IMPOSIBLE TO LAND IN PH🇵🇭 SOIL DUE TO HONDA WONT RISK TO BRING SUCH GOOD BIKE TO LOOSE PROFIT WITH HIGHEST TAX 😂
THIS BIKE WILL ONLY BE IN EUROPEAN COUNTRY
I am currently touring Malaysia 🇲🇾 on this bike. I was told today it's not available in Malaysia either!
It is a very good motorcycle for the price but it's not perfect Anthony
For me to much plastic ,I’ll stick to my Himalayan 450 bear bike it will suit women a lot it will sell well in Asia
A CT125 would be better suited, and cheaper!
Actually, Fred this ADV350 here in thailand is cheaper to buy than what you would pay for a CT125 trail in most countries.
The whole point of the video is you can have a super comfortable and fun touring bike for the open road, then when you get to the trails, the ADV is a lot more capable than most people think.
@@mototouro pass, I'll stick to bikes with transmissions, like my 2014 Honda CB500X.
@fredtracy3931 The CB500X is a great bike Fred, lot's of them here.
I bought the Benelli TRK 502X, but it was a toss-up between it, and the Honda.
@@mototouro your TRK 500X is an excellent looking machine, too bad they aren't available in Canada. ☹
Wait a second, you're the same guy I chatted with about a month ago. I commented on your climb up that long hill on your TRK 500X. 🙂
Actually I had a CT125 and sadly I was disappointed on steep hills as the 125cc and the gearing lack power, I love the styling but I sold it and bought myself a ADV150 , much better top end steep hills. For off-road I have 2 CRF'S plus my trustworthy NC 750X for touring.