Little known fact:. A literal translation of Genesis from the dead sea scrolls reads: "God said let there be a particle with a probability wave function, which travels in a vacuum at a speed of 299,792,458 meters per second, which shall be called a 'photon,' and commonly referred to collectively as 'light.'"
Scientific dating is a "story" they don't believe, but believe the earth is 6000 years old as "biblical fact". I think I just facepalmed myself into a coma.
Earth was created specially for human beings.Which is why 70% of it is covered with deep salt water seas. And a large proportion of the land masses are barren desert, ice caps, high mountains, swamps, permafrost tundra etc.(I know the Creationist rebuttal - it was once all lovely garden but a woman was disobedient so tough luck).
At the church that I grew up in they said that the curse put on Cain (the mark) after he murdered Abel was that God made him black. Apparently Cain was "marked" so that people could identify him and not harm him or get the harm returned sevenfold. Even in Sunday School I was like "What other people?!?!?!". When Cain was marked there were only 3 living humans in existence... pretty sure everyone would know who Cain was with or without a mark.
+Ryan Swanson Some like to say that humans and animals existed outside the garden but they were brutal and rough and not perfect and pure like Adam and Eve. Otherwise the only way for them to repopulate the Earth would be for Cain as well as Adam to have lots of sex with Eve and then when those daughters are born to have lots of sex with them when they come of age. And we all know that genetic bottlenecks are bad.
*@Uma Chan* Can you imagine the panic Eve must have gone through when she realized that her one good son is dead and she currently owns the *ONLY* vagina? Holy shit! Cain and Adam are just circling her like hungry wolves. According to the Bible she had more children including daughters. Imagine the relief Eve had when she popped out another twat out of her twat. It may have been the 1st female orgasm.
+Ryan Swanson LOL! Then she realizes that she still needs to do this until her daughter turns 14 or something and prays to God to only give her daughters so at least, after 14 years of her husband and son taking turns she'll get *some* relief. Now excuse me while I throw up in my mouth for a minute.
*@Uma Chan* Fuck it, I'm going to further torture your sensibilities. Eve pops out her first daughter, thank God... literally! As you said, an immediate problem ensues. She's too young for the horny sons and husband. Eve must hide her until she's around (lets be honest) 9 or 10. She asks her mother "when can I play with the boys?". "Shhh!!!! They'll hear you!" says Eve. Eve continues, "Do you remember when you heard me screaming 'oh God, make it stop!!!'?" The daughter replies, "yes momma, it's the pain during birth". "No sweet child, I wasn't giving birth" Eve responded. "We have... lets call it a 'biscuit' sweetheart. "What's that mum?" says Urfuqued. "Shh!!!" replies Eve. "Hey Adam, what's hanging?" Adam replies, "I feel something, so I need something!". "Would you like some fig stew?" Eve says. "No! I want some gravy... with biscuits, ain't that right Cain, Cleetus, Jethro, Jar Jar, and Joe?!?!?" I'll stop now but thus is the beautiful Biblical story of how we came about! It's evolution that's evil!!!
Why do I take a one dimensional avatar of an animated human more seriously than the three dimensional figures of Body, Georgia and Ken Ham of AIG fame? Nevertheless, I know what I'm having for breakfast 🐷🍳
... and of course, "survival of the fittest" is already a distortion. It invokes this mental picture of a gold medalist in fitness being the only one to survive and have offspring, which is ridiculous. If anything, the truth is more like survival of the barely sufficiently fit but sufficiently lucky. Anything further comes only with statistics, large numbers, and many generations. In any case, empathy and altruism are pretty useful for survival, so it's not all that hard to understand how they would work - if you're really honestly looking for an explanation. Otherwise, of course, you'll just reject any explanation, no matter how obvious, because you've already decided there can be no explanation.
Fittest means, of that particular group & that particular ecology. In Africa, it's the giraffe with the longest neck. The elephant with the longest trunk. The crock able to hide the best. The zebra able to zebra the best.
Survival of the fittest is about survival of a population - not of an individual. Especially in a population of a social species, the group survives better with altruism at least toward their own. If her faith is all that keeps her from murdering, raping, robbing, or having abortions, I would say for such a sociopath to PLEASE keep their faith. For most of us, we have ethics and morality from both the social contract and from our own sense of right and wrong.
My 15yr old son, who has never been subjected to religious indoctrination , looks at men like Ham, and says he is not sure if they are con-men or just idiots . It is actually very enlightening to watch and listen to kids like him as they struggle to figure out how adults could believe such ridiculous nonsense.
They are con-men, undeniably. Notice how like every other thing they talk about on their show they amazingly have a crappy book written about it that they plug? It is all about money.
Adults sometimes struggle with the same question,especially lately. I hope that you and your son have successfully gotten through our country's recent events. I also wonder if your son reached a decision. Hope your family's doing well. Peace
My parents sent me to a Christian High School in my sophomore year. They (my parents) were secular, but thought the school had a good academic reputation. We had to pray before and after every class. Second period was mandatory Bible devotion and accounted for 1\4 of our grades! I dropped out three weeks into my sophomore year when the principal "Morgan Outlaw" threatened to paddle me for being "tardy". The best decision of my life. Religion is a pathological socially sanctioned mental disorder.
anyone else feel like georgia doesnt believe the shit shes spewing but is in too deep to admit it? All the time i hear her correcting people on science but then suddenly spews religious babble like its a cover up
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and take them at their word when they say they believe something, unless there is extremely good reason to doubt their word
So let me get this straight. Noah got pass out drunk, then his son HAPPENED to see him in that state and God cursed the SON because Noah did something stupid? How is that fair and just?
Oh, no, it's worse than that. Ham saw Noah naked, so Ham's son, Canaan, got cursed by Noah to be a slave. So it was Noah's fault that Ham saw him naked, and yet Canaan got punished with slavery for Noah's drunken nudity.
Don't slip up and leave out some of the crappiness of the story. Ham saw his dad all liquored up and nekkid, and Noah cursed Ham's *son*. And thus it was that Canaan invented the middle finger gesture. And why does a curse laid on by some human lush count anyway? I mean, if I chug some Thunderbird and stagger into my job with no clothes on, can I act all mad and curse my boss to have to transfer his paychecks to my bank account?
+Eric Taylor That is the wrong question. It was seen as very fair and just by the insipid barbarians who made it up to tell other people in their tribes that god OF COURSE hated those pesky Canaanites because their namesake ancestor had done AWFUL things. It was delivering the retrograde justification why they had to invade THAT country and none else... cause Canaan was cursed by his grandfather... an grumpy old alcoholic that had drunken hallucinations of sailing a boat in too much water... The bible LOVES cursing people that had nothing to do with shit for what one of their great great great great great .... ancestors had done... Look at Adam and Eve, Adam agreed with "taking the bite challenge" and got to work for his food. Eve was talked into it by god's own district attorney (Satan means Tester or accuser and was also a term in jewish law) and got the "present" for every girl after her that childbirth FUCKING HURTS. The snake got to be hated by females and to crawl on its belly... no idea what it did before, but Ricky Gervais has some nice stuff about that and Christ Matheson's book "the story of god" has a similar approach...
Thank you for making these videos. I already had my mind made up but it was just angry shouting. The way you produce your facts is clear, well thought out, and the fact you avoid cursing helps me to more easily share them with people who are on the fence. I look forward to sharing these videos with my family. Thank you for the hard work you have put in toward pointing out what a scam this whole movement is.
"Curse of Ham" theology is still unfortunately alive and well in some theological circles. Looking at you LDS Church. Also Paul is much more snarky than normal in this one, can't blame him though, felt similarly. As a random aside, where he goes "you know this, you know this", gotta agree. I think Georgia suffers from a lot of cognitive dissonance.
Oh yeah they do, and you can even attain the priesthood now and go to Heaven (since God changed his mind in the 1970s). Could be wrong, but thought the "curse of Ham" was still technically an official teaching, even if it's been partially sidelined.
I thought that black people were supposed to be descendants of Cain. {Disclaimer: this isn't what I think but what people of the past thought, including the Mormons.}
I've heard that version, too, but my understanding is that the 'Curse of Ham' version is more widely accepted. In fact (so I've read), the name Ham (pronounced with a hard 'H') is the source* of the ancient Egyptian words _khem_ ('black') and _Kemet_ ('Egypt'). Likewise, the name of Noah's son Shem is the source of our term 'semitic'. Noah's third son, Japheth, is supposedly the progenitor of the Turkish and European peoples. * It's entirely possible, and probably more likely, that the words designating those peoples (at least the Shemites/Semites and Hamites/Khemites) existed before the Noah story was composed, and that the sons were named after the peoples they supposedly gave rise to. Several of Noah's grandchildren and great grandchildren have names recognizably related to tribes well known from the Bible or secular history: Shem's son Ashur begat the Assyrians; his son Aram begat the Aramaic-speaking Arameans; his son Lud begat the Lydians; Ham's son Canaan begat the Canaanites; Canaan's son Sidon begat the Phoenicians, whose capital city was Sidon; Canaan's son Heth begat the Hittites. . . . The general idea being that, like other ancient mythologies purposing to explain natural phenomena like fire or wind, large parts of ancient Hebrew mythology purposed to explain the ethnic composition of the region they inhabited.
I've heard the idea that both white and black are result of the Cain curse/mark - depending on who you ask. Both are wrong - the mark is just for Cain - no one else. And its so that no one kills him - not much of a curse. Is he immortal now? No idea. AiG has no idea about anything as always.
God hates black people. That's why he gave them sickle-cell anaemia. And malaria. It's the curse of Ham. That's why the Babble tells you pigs are unclean animals - to stop you eating ham. Because it's cursed. Meanwhile, back on planet reality, sickle-cell anaemia is an evolutionary adaptation in populations where malaria is endemic. Oops, I forgot, the fucktards claim evolution is fake science.
bdf2718 Actually creationists have moved the goalposts to allow micro evolution. Not sure what their current stance on sickle cell trait would be since it has positive and negative results.
When you commented about not needing to be part of something to oppose it, the very first thing that popped into my head was dog fighting rings. So when you said the exact same thing a few seconds later, I had to chuckle. Great minds think alike?
They conveniently ignore that Christopher Hitchens said he doesn't believe humans are divided into races. And as far as biology I tend to agree. I didn't reach this conclusion because of the Bible and I'm pretty sure Hitchens didn't either. The actual diversity our species has makes us more interesting, I don't see it as an excuse to treat people differently. And I still accept evolution. And watching AronRa I know Charles Darwin didn't determine how to treat people based on 'race' either.
COMPLETELY unrelated to any subjects in the video: It's 2017. Why do they PRINT all these stories when a cheap tablet would suffice? They kill a LOT of trees to make these videos. There's a LAPTOP RIGHT THERE!
14:37 communism = atheistic humanism. But Jesus was *definitely* a communist, an extreme one at that, with his emphasis on giving up all possessions and splitting what meager things they subsisted on equally between members. _So Jesus was an atheist?!_
Excellent video! yet, again! You never let us down! Thank you for doing this, and exposing the ignorance of AIG. (I think the lady of the team, is more knowledgeable than she lets on. Not too sure she believes every thing she says. She may be a bit dishonest in her statements.)
Paul, you are righteous -- and you know it! Love to spend an afternoon with you puzzling over theist. Your manner of speech, vocabulary, and well modulated voice coupled with your encyclopedic knowledge of Christianity make you an ideal spokesperson for truth! Genesis 1:11 Even some atheist have a favorite verse.
Communism as a religion? Depends on how you define religion. I define religion as a combination of Cult, Community and Creed. No god required. though when you consider Communism, Maoism, Naziism, Marxism, Leninism,, etc., for them, the government is god.
It's fascinating how she will allow herself to believe we are made up more of microbes then actual cells but then cannot accept that the base elements we are made of came from exploding stars. Despite equal evidence for both. There is truly no way to predict whether they will accept a topic or ridicule it.
This channel, *Paulogia* , cannot be a religion. But according to AIG *Paulogiaism* is! I look forward to your listing when *_World Religion and Cults_* produces Volume 4.
As John Corvino says, "When people tell me homosexuality is is bad because it isn't 'natural', because 'The pieces don't fit.' I tell them..." (gets flat, yet significant look on his face) "Yes they do."
"Altruism confuses evolutionists" We've had people understanding this for well over a century, you're usually behind the times and all but that's just bad.
The entire creationist argument is "but how do you know". When I was a creationist all these arguments sounded so good, but one day I woke up, and it just all sounded ridiculous. Now when I hear them talk it's nothing but cringe. Lots of cringe.
@14:17 "You actually have more bacterial cells that make up your human body than human cells... which is kind of a cool thought." Ok, so the idea that we share an ancestor with chimpanzees and gorillas, is awful, but the idea that we're more bacteria than human is cool. I say if we teach kids that we're bacteria, then they will act like bacteria!
Paulogia...You state that they are "so close" to understanding this stuff. I beg to differ. I believe they are very far from understanding most things.
Wait I need green tinted glasses to see leprechauns?!? That explains so much, thanks for letting me know what I was doing wrong now I’m sure to find that pot of gold
Come out Georgia, don't let 'em wait You Creationist girls start much too late Aw but sooner or later it comes down to faith..... Wait. Stop it! Just stop it!
It's hard to understand the lengths religious people will go to when it comes to protecting their myth. You did a nice job on your commentary. I'm an atheist so I guess I have been duped too.
It gets almost painful to listen to those people tell such blatant lies. I know that it's difficult to ascertain what they may and may not believe, but they come up with things that are so patently untrue that the alternative is that they are suffering from literal brain damage.
As they should, they are denouncing bigotry based on skin color. But they teach that people that don't believe as they do deserve hell. This is also bigotry.
Love Richard's lectures.... haven't had a chance to read his books yet, but looking forward to it when i can... for me, I think he is right on with his claims..
According to the Dresden Files, Sue the dinosaur is at the Field Museum. Harry Dresden animated her and made her into a zombie TRex that he road through Chicago. Sue exists. The Field exists, and so does Chicago. Therefore I believe in Harry Dresden!!! Lol
I have yet to see Georgia try to use the field of genetics to help prove the faith. I'm wondering if she avoids doing so because if it ruins her credibility in it that it'll severely hurt the their show.
She’s already said she doesn’t believe the science she studied and just parroted what she had to to get her degree. I don’t think she ever had any credibility in the secular scientific community
Canaan was the eponym for the Canaanites , the inhabitants of the land of Canaan, whom the Israelites were supposed to destroy. It was meant to justify that. That's what that curse was about.
Phd Giggles is ridiculous! As with he work of Finkelstein and Dever, archeology done with open curiosity to see what is there, tells a very different story from the "biblica"l account! You already know this, I am just venting.
If it's intelligent life, capable of space flight and interstellar communication, it will almost certainly be both carbon and oxygen-based. Yes, it is possible that silicon could make life, but that life would be super simple, as silicon is FAR less able to form the array of molecules that carbon can. Also, from what I understand, it is likely it will be oxygen based, as our brains are energy hungry and oxygen packs a wallop. I mean it's possible this is wrong, but last I read, this appears to be exobiologists feel. Now, simpler life could come in an enormous array of types, who knows. I hope we check out the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, soon.
13:50 ish .... Darwin struggled.... If Darwin suggested the correct answer, why should we care how much effort it took? If Darwin had struggled, defined the limits of our knowledge, came up with a couple of hypotheses, and suggested tests to distinguish between them then I believe that the struggle would have been worthwhile. Sori, Paulogia, jyst gonna have to ask.... "were you there?" Did Darwin struggle? Irrelevant! Don't allow the AIGS (- Ham) to spread the idea that jyst 'cos thinking/science/etc is HARD we shouldn't try it, chip in a cred or two through our taxes or [EDIT] allow other people to try it on pain of eternal blah, blah, blah...
6:15 Gna! Tell that to creationists! (to take a conservative approach to findings) They really don't realize they're just as gullible as those believing in Joseph Smith's golden plates, do they? (forgot to say: Good job, Paul! Please keep it up;; keep 'm real!) Don't have any money to support, but I could provide some better _music_ for your channel; all duty free, home made. Drop a note. ;-) (don't mean the title song, though; That one's GREAT!)
I think I'm going to grab the bit about altruism & lay out what we know about the subject (or what we offer as hypotheses). And give you a shout out in the process, of course.
Partial solar eclipse? (heads to Google) Damns it! I'll be in class for most of it! At least it starts during my lunch break and I'll actually be changing classes when "the peak" happens according to the Courier-Journal. It'll be interesting navigating campus in the dark (especially on the first day back in classes). We're supposed to have the moon cover 93.4% of the sun here.
"A Basic Guide to Interpreting the Bible: Playing by the Rules" by Robert H. Stein states: "The word faith possesses a range of meanings in the NT. It can mean, along with other possibilities, a mere mental assent to a fact, a wholehearted trust, or a body of beliefs. Its semantic range permits any of these possible meanings, but it does not permit “faith” to mean bacon and eggs." Not sure, but he could have referred to "Ham and AIGS" as well, couldn't he? ;-)
Usually the definition of a religion would include the belief in and worship of, an all-powerful, invisible deity, no? Am I missing something here? Communists don't pray to the Great Unseen Collectivist for an abundant wheat harvest. And atheists don't pray at all. It reminds me of the time Bill O'Reilly claimed that Christianity isn't a religion, it's a philosophy. As the British would say "Bollocks!"
@ Paulogia... Paul I would (wood) really like to get one of those "Noah's Ark Ship Builders" t-shirts that Richard was wearing. Since I live in a port city on Lake Erie I think this "wood" be appropriate attire when I'm down at the marina or out on the lake fishing with my friends. Any suggestions on where to find one (or a few) of these shirts ? PS - as always... thanks for all your work in making and posting your clips
Hey Paulogia, I'm familiar with many of the argument you cover; but, it's your perspective I appreciate most. Your Bullshit Detection Kit is most impressive. You're able to pick up on little things that give away the entirety of their dishonesty. It may be a poor reference, but you're like like a Borg separated from the hive, fighting to regain their humanity. Great work, when Aron had to sit back and take your soft spoken facts, I was hooked. Keep it up!
They just said something I agree with! Kinda. I don't make a distinction between ideologies such as Marxism and Free Market Economics and religions. They all have holy books that are supposedly the fount of all knowledge (or at least all knowledge in one particular field). They're all made up by humans (except religions claim the material was dictated by god) and therefore contain errors. The attempts to force people to believe the errors don't exist lead to thought control. Incidentally, although Marxism is an ideology, Mousey Dung was pretty much adulated as a god, as is Kim Wrong Un. So I have no problems with people calling them religions. However, atheism is neither a religion nor an ideology. There's no book that all atheists revere and religiously follow its teachings. So, once again, AiG talks bollocks.
"...atheism/humanism/communism..." Now, like everybody else who's been in these sorts of discussions for more than 5 minutes, I've heard this one many times. But it still makes me pause a beat. To just simply not care whether what you're saying is true or not as long as it might further your agenda...apparently phantom zombie Jew blood washes away stuff like shame, too.
You know, maybe I'm reading too much into the airline seatbelt thing @17:30 but I think the sheer absurdity of the image underscores the harmlessness of being LGBT... having the wrong seatbelt parts is hazardous. Mixing the wrong sex organs in the bedroom is completely harmless. The juxtaposition of the rainbow seatbelts underscores the fact that sex organs are, in fact, not seat belts. But tha's prolly jus my read of it.
Does that make orgasm a religion? Please say it is so Paul! If so I've found my GOD! We can all hail the God of Orgasm by going OH MY GOD! OH GOD! YESSS!
Little known fact:. A literal translation of Genesis from the dead sea scrolls reads:
"God said let there be a particle with a probability wave function, which travels in a vacuum at a speed of 299,792,458 meters per second, which shall be called a 'photon,' and commonly referred to collectively as 'light.'"
John Williams
Someone obviously mistranslated. ;)
299.792.458 m/s.... how much is that in cubits? 😉
Someone should write the whole Bible like that. Someone probably has. Link plz😃
@@elephystry
Oh good, I don't have to say it.
Scientific dating is a "story" they don't believe, but believe the earth is 6000 years old as "biblical fact". I think I just facepalmed myself into a coma.
Get well soon.
@The Thyme Cube I dunno, "biblical stories are frequently not very factual" works for me.
You know...whenever I watch these videos, I always get a taste for ham and eggs...LOL.
Why do they look like they are in a 90's show?
Second :O Pls don't ban :'(
Earth was created specially for human beings.Which is why 70% of it is covered with deep salt water seas. And a large proportion of the land masses are barren desert, ice caps, high mountains, swamps, permafrost tundra etc.(I know the Creationist rebuttal - it was once all lovely garden but a woman was disobedient so tough luck).
At the church that I grew up in they said that the curse put on Cain (the mark) after he murdered Abel was that God made him black. Apparently Cain was "marked" so that people could identify him and not harm him or get the harm returned sevenfold. Even in Sunday School I was like "What other people?!?!?!". When Cain was marked there were only 3 living humans in existence... pretty sure everyone would know who Cain was with or without a mark.
+Ryan Swanson Some like to say that humans and animals existed outside the garden but they were brutal and rough and not perfect and pure like Adam and Eve.
Otherwise the only way for them to repopulate the Earth would be for Cain as well as Adam to have lots of sex with Eve and then when those daughters are born to have lots of sex with them when they come of age. And we all know that genetic bottlenecks are bad.
*@Uma Chan*
Can you imagine the panic Eve must have gone through when she realized that her one good son is dead and she currently owns the *ONLY* vagina? Holy shit! Cain and Adam are just circling her like hungry wolves. According to the Bible she had more children including daughters. Imagine the relief Eve had when she popped out another twat out of her twat. It may have been the 1st female orgasm.
+Ryan Swanson LOL! Then she realizes that she still needs to do this until her daughter turns 14 or something and prays to God to only give her daughters so at least, after 14 years of her husband and son taking turns she'll get *some* relief.
Now excuse me while I throw up in my mouth for a minute.
*@Uma Chan*
You're excused, that's so repulsive. Forgive me for painting that orgy of incest and molestation. **barf**
*@Uma Chan*
Fuck it, I'm going to further torture your sensibilities.
Eve pops out her first daughter, thank God... literally! As you said, an immediate problem ensues. She's too young for the horny sons and husband. Eve must hide her until she's around (lets be honest) 9 or 10. She asks her mother "when can I play with the boys?". "Shhh!!!! They'll hear you!" says Eve. Eve continues, "Do you remember when you heard me screaming 'oh God, make it stop!!!'?" The daughter replies, "yes momma, it's the pain during birth". "No sweet child, I wasn't giving birth" Eve responded. "We have... lets call it a 'biscuit' sweetheart. "What's that mum?" says Urfuqued. "Shh!!!" replies Eve. "Hey Adam, what's hanging?" Adam replies, "I feel something, so I need something!". "Would you like some fig stew?" Eve says. "No! I want some gravy... with biscuits, ain't that right Cain, Cleetus, Jethro, Jar Jar, and Joe?!?!?"
I'll stop now but thus is the beautiful Biblical story of how we came about! It's evolution that's evil!!!
I've been watching all your videos because I just found you. Thanks for making interesting, intelligent content!
glad to have you aboard, MrSoizes!
Why do I take a one dimensional avatar of an animated human more seriously than the three dimensional figures of Body, Georgia and Ken Ham of AIG fame? Nevertheless, I know what I'm having for breakfast 🐷🍳
It's still a 2D drawing, but else you are spot on right. Jr
Wait.... you can see a one dimensional object?
Creationists: how do you explain X
Scientists: well we compensate by-
Creationists: LALALALALA IM NOT LISTENING
"Hi! I don't understand the science. Let me tell you why it's wrong!" -AIG.
Where did she get the idea that evolutionist don't like the idea of altruism? What a strange world her head is!
Andrew Jones - survival of the fittest. According to her projection, altruism contradicts the concept. They love to strawman this.
C'mon, you should know that she thinks that, without god, she'd be out there right now, killing, raping, getting an abortion.
... and of course, "survival of the fittest" is already a distortion. It invokes this mental picture of a gold medalist in fitness being the only one to survive and have offspring, which is ridiculous.
If anything, the truth is more like survival of the barely sufficiently fit but sufficiently lucky. Anything further comes only with statistics, large numbers, and many generations.
In any case, empathy and altruism are pretty useful for survival, so it's not all that hard to understand how they would work - if you're really honestly looking for an explanation. Otherwise, of course, you'll just reject any explanation, no matter how obvious, because you've already decided there can be no explanation.
Fittest means, of that particular group & that particular ecology. In Africa, it's the giraffe with the longest neck. The elephant with the longest trunk. The crock able to hide the best. The zebra able to zebra the best.
Survival of the fittest is about survival of a population - not of an individual. Especially in a population of a social species, the group survives better with altruism at least toward their own.
If her faith is all that keeps her from murdering, raping, robbing, or having abortions, I would say for such a sociopath to PLEASE keep their faith. For most of us, we have ethics and morality from both the social contract and from our own sense of right and wrong.
My 15yr old son, who has never been subjected to religious indoctrination , looks at men like Ham, and says he is not sure if they are con-men or just idiots .
It is actually very enlightening to watch and listen to kids like him as they struggle to figure out how adults could believe such ridiculous nonsense.
They are con-men, undeniably. Notice how like every other thing they talk about on their show they amazingly have a crappy book written about it that they plug?
It is all about money.
The phrase "fools or knaves" comes to mind.
Adults sometimes struggle with the same question,especially lately. I hope that you and your son have successfully gotten through our country's recent events. I also wonder if your son reached a decision. Hope your family's doing well. Peace
Bible quizzing...you poor, poor man. 😱😥
you have no idea....
Oh jeez, you guys too? I got stuck doing quizzing all through high school.
My parents sent me to a Christian High School in my sophomore year. They (my parents) were secular, but thought the school had a good academic reputation. We had to pray before and after every class. Second period was mandatory Bible devotion and accounted for 1\4 of our grades! I dropped out three weeks into my sophomore year when the principal "Morgan Outlaw" threatened to paddle me for being "tardy". The best decision of my life. Religion is a pathological socially sanctioned mental disorder.
anyone else feel like georgia doesnt believe the shit shes spewing but is in too deep to admit it? All the time i hear her correcting people on science but then suddenly spews religious babble like its a cover up
Poor Georgia.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and take them at their word when they say they believe something, unless there is extremely good reason to doubt their word
I noticed the same!
There is some major cognitive dissonance going on for her. Her eye-rolls give her away 🙄
I'd love to see her and Aron Ra have a conversation. He would expose her in under 5 minutes.
So let me get this straight. Noah got pass out drunk, then his son HAPPENED to see him in that state and God cursed the SON because Noah did something stupid?
How is that fair and just?
Oh, no, it's worse than that. Ham saw Noah naked, so Ham's son, Canaan, got cursed by Noah to be a slave.
So it was Noah's fault that Ham saw him naked, and yet Canaan got punished with slavery for Noah's drunken nudity.
Don't slip up and leave out some of the crappiness of the story. Ham saw his dad all liquored up and nekkid, and Noah cursed Ham's *son*. And thus it was that Canaan invented the middle finger gesture.
And why does a curse laid on by some human lush count anyway? I mean, if I chug some Thunderbird and stagger into my job with no clothes on, can I act all mad and curse my boss to have to transfer his paychecks to my bank account?
It's as fair as infinite punishment (hell) for finite crime (sin).
+Eric Taylor
That is the wrong question.
It was seen as very fair and just by the insipid barbarians who made it up to tell other people in their tribes that god OF COURSE hated those pesky Canaanites because their namesake ancestor had done AWFUL things. It was delivering the retrograde justification why they had to invade THAT country and none else... cause Canaan was cursed by his grandfather... an grumpy old alcoholic that had drunken hallucinations of sailing a boat in too much water...
The bible LOVES cursing people that had nothing to do with shit for what one of their great great great great great .... ancestors had done... Look at Adam and Eve, Adam agreed with "taking the bite challenge" and got to work for his food. Eve was talked into it by god's own district attorney (Satan means Tester or accuser and was also a term in jewish law) and got the "present" for every girl after her that childbirth FUCKING HURTS. The snake got to be hated by females and to crawl on its belly... no idea what it did before, but Ricky Gervais has some nice stuff about that and Christ Matheson's book "the story of god" has a similar approach...
+Eric Taylor You're expecting a story out of the bible to make sense?
Oh these two (Answers News anchors) are so painful to listen to I think I must be a masochist to watch this. My cringe meter is pegged.
Atheism is a religion just like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
" _The curse of Ham_ " ;-) I like that!
Fantastic video! There's an entire chapter in The Selfish Gene (great book) on the possible origin and survival of altruism, not that AiG would know.
Thank you for making these videos. I already had my mind made up but it was just angry shouting. The way you produce your facts is clear, well thought out, and the fact you avoid cursing helps me to more easily share them with people who are on the fence. I look forward to sharing these videos with my family. Thank you for the hard work you have put in toward pointing out what a scam this whole movement is.
Well, metabolism _literally_ gives life to things so.... ;)
No yoga pants? Im out
I'm so happy that you do these replies to Ken Ham's bs news seeing as they are too afraid to deal with comments on their channel.
While it might not be as functional, you can tie the other seat belts together, I have had to do that before...
She knows, she knows...
Or in slightly more cultish words....
*_It's AWARE!_*
You were thinking of this? th-cam.com/video/GeU8nxdF_6M/w-d-xo.htmlm13s
Great video...some of your best dry sarcasm yet! I was a little disappointed not to see an animated Dr. Carrier, though! Hehe
"Curse of Ham" theology is still unfortunately alive and well in some theological circles. Looking at you LDS Church.
Also Paul is much more snarky than normal in this one, can't blame him though, felt similarly. As a random aside, where he goes "you know this, you know this", gotta agree. I think Georgia suffers from a lot of cognitive dissonance.
but, but, they now accept black members ..... don't they?
Oh yeah they do, and you can even attain the priesthood now and go to Heaven (since God changed his mind in the 1970s). Could be wrong, but thought the "curse of Ham" was still technically an official teaching, even if it's been partially sidelined.
I thought that black people were supposed to be descendants of Cain. {Disclaimer: this isn't what I think but what people of the past thought, including the Mormons.}
I've heard that version, too, but my understanding is that the 'Curse of Ham' version is more widely accepted. In fact (so I've read), the name Ham (pronounced with a hard 'H') is the source* of the ancient Egyptian words _khem_ ('black') and _Kemet_ ('Egypt'). Likewise, the name of Noah's son Shem is the source of our term 'semitic'. Noah's third son, Japheth, is supposedly the progenitor of the Turkish and European peoples.
* It's entirely possible, and probably more likely, that the words designating those peoples (at least the Shemites/Semites and Hamites/Khemites) existed before the Noah story was composed, and that the sons were named after the peoples they supposedly gave rise to. Several of Noah's grandchildren and great grandchildren have names recognizably related to tribes well known from the Bible or secular history: Shem's son Ashur begat the Assyrians; his son Aram begat the Aramaic-speaking Arameans; his son Lud begat the Lydians; Ham's son Canaan begat the Canaanites; Canaan's son Sidon begat the Phoenicians, whose capital city was Sidon; Canaan's son Heth begat the Hittites. . . . The general idea being that, like other ancient mythologies purposing to explain natural phenomena like fire or wind, large parts of ancient Hebrew mythology purposed to explain the ethnic composition of the region they inhabited.
I've heard the idea that both white and black are result of the Cain curse/mark - depending on who you ask. Both are wrong - the mark is just for Cain - no one else. And its so that no one kills him - not much of a curse. Is he immortal now? No idea. AiG has no idea about anything as always.
"Everyone is the same race"
Agreed.
"Evolutionary racism"
*Head explodes
God hates black people. That's why he gave them sickle-cell anaemia. And malaria. It's the curse of Ham. That's why the Babble tells you pigs are unclean animals - to stop you eating ham. Because it's cursed.
Meanwhile, back on planet reality, sickle-cell anaemia is an evolutionary adaptation in populations where malaria is endemic. Oops, I forgot, the fucktards claim evolution is fake science.
bdf2718 Actually creationists have moved the goalposts to allow micro evolution. Not sure what their current stance on sickle cell trait would be since it has positive and negative results.
I’m fuzzy on my history. I thought racism existed before Darwin....
Jamal Wills fainting at high altitudes > dying
When you commented about not needing to be part of something to oppose it, the very first thing that popped into my head was dog fighting rings. So when you said the exact same thing a few seconds later, I had to chuckle. Great minds think alike?
They conveniently ignore that Christopher Hitchens said he doesn't believe humans are divided into races. And as far as biology I tend to agree. I didn't reach this conclusion because of the Bible and I'm pretty sure Hitchens didn't either. The actual diversity our species has makes us more interesting, I don't see it as an excuse to treat people differently. And I still accept evolution.
And watching AronRa I know Charles Darwin didn't determine how to treat people based on 'race' either.
COMPLETELY unrelated to any subjects in the video: It's 2017. Why do they PRINT all these stories when a cheap tablet would suffice? They kill a LOT of trees to make these videos. There's a LAPTOP RIGHT THERE!
Sorry. Sometimes I forget who we're dealing with in this stuff.
14:37 communism = atheistic humanism. But Jesus was *definitely* a communist, an extreme one at that, with his emphasis on giving up all possessions and splitting what meager things they subsisted on equally between members. _So Jesus was an atheist?!_
Excellent video! yet, again! You never let us down! Thank you for doing this, and exposing the ignorance of AIG. (I think the lady of the team, is more knowledgeable than she lets on. Not too sure she believes every thing she says. She may be a bit dishonest in her statements.)
Keep it up Paul with the awesome videos! You're doing Gods ...err....Jeebus' work!
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she's sometimes too quick with the right answer and has to cover.
God speaks through Georgia by way of hairstyles from the 1950s. He IS mysterious.
I'm seeing a pattern here, is alcoholism a religion too? If yes, then I know some very religious people
Paul, you are righteous -- and you know it! Love to spend an afternoon with you puzzling over theist. Your manner of speech, vocabulary, and well modulated voice coupled with your encyclopedic knowledge of Christianity make you an ideal spokesperson for truth!
Genesis 1:11 Even some atheist have a favorite verse.
Thanks, MNA. I do what I can. And Acts 1:18 is my favorite.
Not religious? Tell that to the Russian orthodox.
Communism as a religion? Depends on how you define religion. I define religion as a combination of Cult, Community and Creed. No god required. though when you consider Communism, Maoism, Naziism, Marxism, Leninism,, etc., for them, the government is god.
It's fascinating how she will allow herself to believe we are made up more of microbes then actual cells but then cannot accept that the base elements we are made of came from exploding stars. Despite equal evidence for both. There is truly no way to predict whether they will accept a topic or ridicule it.
Wesh
Of course there's a method! Just check to see what the Bibble has to say about it. If it contradicts it, you'd better bet they'll reject it.
This channel, *Paulogia* , cannot be a religion. But according to AIG *Paulogiaism* is!
I look forward to your listing when *_World Religion and Cults_* produces Volume 4.
As John Corvino says, "When people tell me homosexuality is is bad because it isn't 'natural', because 'The pieces don't fit.' I tell them..." (gets flat, yet significant look on his face) "Yes they do."
"Altruism confuses evolutionists" We've had people understanding this for well over a century, you're usually behind the times and all but that's just bad.
Cartoon Paul is looking pretty buff.... you wouldn't exaggerate would ya?
I won't lie my cartoon avatar's boobies are at least 2 cup sizes bigger than mine lol
The entire creationist argument is "but how do you know". When I was a creationist all these arguments sounded so good, but one day I woke up, and it just all sounded ridiculous. Now when I hear them talk it's nothing but cringe. Lots of cringe.
@14:17 "You actually have more bacterial cells that make up your human body than human cells... which is kind of a cool thought."
Ok, so the idea that we share an ancestor with chimpanzees and gorillas, is awful, but the idea that we're more bacteria than human is cool. I say if we teach kids that we're bacteria, then they will act like bacteria!
Didn’t Noah have children with his daughters??? I don’t here AIG mention that part of the story. How is that biblical morality for yaaa.
Around 5:40, they should actually STOP ASKING "how do they know"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Because, when Georgia asks, you tell. Shame they don't listen.
The bible was written about 2000yrs ago Georgia.....how can you know its accurate.....
Paulogia...You state that they are "so close" to understanding this stuff. I beg to differ. I believe they are very far from understanding most things.
Communism and Nazism are not religions - they are extreme political ideologies and your Jesus embraced one of these, guess which one.
Wait I need green tinted glasses to see leprechauns?!? That explains so much, thanks for letting me know what I was doing wrong now I’m sure to find that pot of gold
The racial interpretation if the Curse of Ham is absurd. It is an allegory and justification of Israel ruling over Canaan.
Come out Georgia, don't let 'em wait
You Creationist girls start much too late
Aw but sooner or later it comes down to faith.....
Wait. Stop it! Just stop it!
It's hard to understand the lengths religious people will go to when it comes to protecting their myth. You did a nice job on your commentary. I'm an atheist so I guess I have been duped too.
It gets almost painful to listen to those people tell such blatant lies. I know that it's difficult to ascertain what they may and may not believe, but they come up with things that are so patently untrue that the alternative is that they are suffering from literal brain damage.
As they should, they are denouncing bigotry based on skin color. But they teach that people that don't believe as they do deserve hell. This is also bigotry.
Bodie is intellectually incapable of doing anything that takes more mental stamina than "trivializing".
If Dr. Georgia Purdum is so sure about her convictions let her publish a peer review paper!
I definitely couldn't live without my metabolism.
Pretty sure I'd die without it.
Love Richard's lectures.... haven't had a chance to read his books yet, but looking forward to it when i can... for me, I think he is right on with his claims..
Have to wonder if Paulogia ever questions his own sanity after he has watched so much creationist garbage
It's like listening to two really drunk people having a conversation.
I believe in hiring family members. Cronyism is my religion. Crony is lord! 😂🤪😁
According to the Dresden Files, Sue the dinosaur is at the Field Museum. Harry Dresden animated her and made her into a zombie TRex that he road through Chicago.
Sue exists. The Field exists, and so does Chicago.
Therefore I believe in Harry Dresden!!! Lol
More Richard Carrier would be good. Good video; thanks
georgia is in the wrong religion. for her, a burqa would be a wise fashion choice.
the guy behind Carrier looks so much like 'Hitch'
I would like to read Georgia's Doctorial Thesis.
Metabolism is a religion? Wait! Let me digest that! ;-)
8:50 Is that Christopher Hitchens behind Richard?
Curse of Ham lol u are hilarious. Love your videos.
Carrier is just slightly above Ken
I don't think creationists want to enter a meme war
so there was not racism before evolooshun?
Irony overload. "It's just a story"
I have yet to see Georgia try to use the field of genetics to help prove the faith. I'm wondering if she avoids doing so because if it ruins her credibility in it that it'll severely hurt the their show.
She’s already said she doesn’t believe the science she studied and just parroted what she had to to get her degree. I don’t think she ever had any credibility in the secular scientific community
Canaan was the eponym for the Canaanites , the inhabitants of the land of Canaan, whom the Israelites were supposed to destroy. It was meant to justify that. That's what that curse was about.
WF6I
The “Justifying propaganda”
Brilliant episode Paulogia.
One of the Best video's you did 🤘
Phd Giggles is ridiculous! As with he work of Finkelstein and Dever, archeology done with open curiosity to see what is there, tells a very different story from the "biblica"l account! You already know this, I am just venting.
NephilimFree once said that Autism was a religion (or at least a belief system)...
it's Neph, what did you expect?
If it's intelligent life, capable of space flight and interstellar communication, it will almost certainly be both carbon and oxygen-based. Yes, it is possible that silicon could make life, but that life would be super simple, as silicon is FAR less able to form the array of molecules that carbon can. Also, from what I understand, it is likely it will be oxygen based, as our brains are energy hungry and oxygen packs a wallop. I mean it's possible this is wrong, but last I read, this appears to be exobiologists feel. Now, simpler life could come in an enormous array of types, who knows. I hope we check out the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, soon.
14:31
Can someone explain this part for me very slowly?
How does this "your view is as crappy as our view" help christianity?
It doesn't- tu quoque fallacy. Or in common english
"no u!!!1!!11"
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Yep, pretty much the only conclusion for me too.
Yet it's used so often by apologists!
13:50 ish .... Darwin struggled....
If Darwin suggested the correct answer, why should we care how much effort it took?
If Darwin had struggled, defined the limits of our knowledge, came up with a couple of hypotheses, and suggested tests to distinguish between them then I believe that the struggle would have been worthwhile.
Sori, Paulogia, jyst gonna have to ask.... "were you there?"
Did Darwin struggle? Irrelevant!
Don't allow the AIGS (- Ham) to spread the idea that jyst 'cos thinking/science/etc is HARD we shouldn't try it, chip in a cred or two through our taxes or [EDIT] allow other people to try it on pain of eternal blah, blah, blah...
6:15 Gna! Tell that to creationists! (to take a conservative approach to findings)
They really don't realize they're just as gullible as those believing in Joseph Smith's golden plates, do they?
(forgot to say: Good job, Paul! Please keep it up;; keep 'm real!)
Don't have any money to support, but I could provide some better _music_ for your channel; all duty free, home made. Drop a note. ;-) (don't mean the title song, though; That one's GREAT!)
Who is the hot Eve in the clip? I have seen you show her before.
joanna sarrazy of "Adam & Eve Revisited"
I think I'm going to grab the bit about altruism & lay out what we know about the subject (or what we offer as hypotheses). And give you a shout out in the process, of course.
Partial solar eclipse? (heads to Google)
Damns it! I'll be in class for most of it! At least it starts during my lunch break and I'll actually be changing classes when "the peak" happens according to the Courier-Journal. It'll be interesting navigating campus in the dark (especially on the first day back in classes). We're supposed to have the moon cover 93.4% of the sun here.
"A Basic Guide to Interpreting the Bible: Playing by the Rules" by Robert H. Stein states: "The word faith possesses a range of meanings in the NT. It can mean, along with other possibilities, a mere mental assent to a fact, a wholehearted trust, or a body of beliefs. Its semantic range permits any of these possible meanings, but it does not permit “faith” to mean bacon and eggs."
Not sure, but he could have referred to "Ham and AIGS" as well, couldn't he? ;-)
Usually the definition of a religion would include the belief in and worship of, an all-powerful, invisible deity, no? Am I missing something here? Communists don't pray to the Great Unseen Collectivist for an abundant wheat harvest. And atheists don't pray at all. It reminds me of the time Bill O'Reilly claimed that Christianity isn't a religion, it's a philosophy. As the British would say "Bollocks!"
@ Paulogia... Paul I would (wood) really like to get one of those "Noah's Ark Ship Builders" t-shirts that Richard was wearing. Since I live in a port city on Lake Erie I think this "wood" be appropriate attire when I'm down at the marina or out on the lake fishing with my friends. Any suggestions on where to find one (or a few) of these shirts ?
PS - as always... thanks for all your work in making and posting your clips
Hey Paulogia,
I'm familiar with many of the argument you cover; but, it's your perspective I appreciate most.
Your Bullshit Detection Kit is most impressive. You're able to pick up on little things that give away the entirety of their dishonesty.
It may be a poor reference, but you're like like a Borg separated from the hive, fighting to regain their humanity.
Great work, when Aron had to sit back and take your soft spoken facts, I was hooked.
Keep it up!
They just said something I agree with! Kinda.
I don't make a distinction between ideologies such as Marxism and Free Market Economics and religions. They all have holy books that are supposedly the fount of all knowledge (or at least all knowledge in one particular field). They're all made up by humans (except religions claim the material was dictated by god) and therefore contain errors. The attempts to force people to believe the errors don't exist lead to thought control.
Incidentally, although Marxism is an ideology, Mousey Dung was pretty much adulated as a god, as is Kim Wrong Un. So I have no problems with people calling them religions.
However, atheism is neither a religion nor an ideology. There's no book that all atheists revere and religiously follow its teachings. So, once again, AiG talks bollocks.
A fellow Bible Quizzer, haha, awesome.
question number one... question...
"...atheism/humanism/communism..."
Now, like everybody else who's been in these sorts of discussions for more than 5 minutes, I've heard this one many times. But it still makes me pause a beat. To just simply not care whether what you're saying is true or not as long as it might further your agenda...apparently phantom zombie Jew blood washes away stuff like shame, too.
You know, maybe I'm reading too much into the airline seatbelt thing @17:30 but I think the sheer absurdity of the image underscores the harmlessness of being LGBT... having the wrong seatbelt parts is hazardous. Mixing the wrong sex organs in the bedroom is completely harmless. The juxtaposition of the rainbow seatbelts underscores the fact that sex organs are, in fact, not seat belts. But tha's prolly jus my read of it.
Does that make orgasm a religion? Please say it is so Paul! If so I've found my GOD! We can all hail the God of Orgasm by going OH MY GOD! OH GOD! YESSS!