Why Darth Vader was TERRIFIED He was Palpatine's NEXT General Grievous
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"Of all the monsters I have created, I still regard Darth Vader as something of a minor masterpiece. No, he was not an entirely alchemical creation, but he was my monster nevertheless. Even though he failed to live up to his full potential, there was much pleasure in transforming Anakin Skywalker from a bright-eyed, tousle-headed youth into the greatest Jedi killer of all time. Yes, he ultimately turned against his Master, as monsters sometimes do, but that was my fault, not his. Given the opportunity to create Vader again, I would, and with zeal."
- Palpatine
@meinvolkuberalles The book of the Sith.
@meinvolkuberallesbook of the sith
What did he mean by saying that was my fault not his ?
@@datboielijah1234 Sidious thought that there was nothing remaining of Anakin Skywalker in Darth Vader. He believed Vader to be a vessel of pure hatred, and his assumption seemed correct until Vader learned of Luke's existence as his son. In a surprising twist, the love Sidious never anticipated emerged within Vader, overpowering the grip of the Dark Side. Underestimating the power of the light side, Sidious learned from his mistake and when he returned, sidious had a sinister plan to seduce Luke to the dark side, hoping to mold him into a new Darth Vader. And he almost suceeded if not for Leia helping his brother to overcome Sidious's dark influence.
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I wouldn’t put it past our beloved Emperor to attempt rewiring Vader’s brain. Especially during the early days of the Empire. He probably considered a lobotomy
I'm pretty sure he has done that. At least with Grievous. And in Legends he goes full hog making TIE fighters from human brains and Ssi-Ruuk technology.
Our benevolent Emperor would consider it , just to ease Lord Vader's mind .
Palpatine: Execute Order 67.
Poor Vader was so focused on General Grievous that he didn’t recognize his fulfillment of Dooku’s fate.
@meinvolkuberallesit was the moment when Palpatine told Luke to kill Vader when he recognized/remembered the same situation decades earlier after he defeated Dooku as Anakin. Instead of giving in to anger or following Sidious’ command Luke chose mercy and threw his lightsaber away (granted that was a big mistake, don’t underestimate the Emperor) which shook Anakin to his core just before the final choice.
After Vader’s defeat on Mustafar Sidious had no intention of passing on the Empire to him as his potential was lost. It wasn’t until Luke came around that an Apprentice could surpass his Power.
Again the point originally was Vader feared becoming another Grievous (which he had in many ways) but what he couldn’t see was his similarities to Dooku: fallen Jedi, leader of Palpatine’s enforcers, thought he could never be replaced, Sith Lord, attachments holding him back (for Dooku it was Obi Wan), and that he didn’t have a prayer against Sidious in Power or a Fight without help.
In the end Darth Vader was never able to surpass and defeat his master, only Anakin Skywalker was...
Vader's realizations are weak. He never translated it into performance; either pain made him stronger, which means a suit that enhances pain, especially as he acclimated to it over time, or a suit that was far more comfortable and delivered on minimizing his physical limits. One or the other. He chose neither. The Death Star failure to be fair wasn't Vader's fault. Sure he was a Sith yet this was Palpatine's failure in trusting Tarkin and Vader was demoted for it.
Vader would've been better off, as a story line similar to Maul, by turning to Mother Talzin, through use of the Nightsisters Force Sorcery and regrowing his limbs then quietly returning to Palpatine's side with a better/revised plan to take Palpatine and his Force Lightening on. All Vader does is give up till Luke shows up.
Considering how much Sidious thought through stuff it's not surprising he made Vader weaker than he could've been otherwise to make sure he had as little chance of overthrowing Sidious on his own terms as possible.
Side note: the back half of the video is noticeably louder than the front half for some reason.
I never understood why Vader, who was a genius mechanic, never upgraded his suit and limbs. He had the knowledge to do so
He did upgrade his suit, numerous times in fact. But he never removed his weak spots, or the pain his suit caused him, on purpose. He deliberately chose not to.
He had the option to completely upgrade it, but the operation required to remove his life support system
Heres my thing if he knew that he was limited by his cybernetics and his suit was susceptible to force lightning. why didnt he go behind the Emperors back change out the cybernetics for better ones and change his suit for something better and stronger?
That is the tragedy of Vader, even as the vile villain he is, you as the audience still wishes he never lost all of his potential the way he did.
So, "what if" time: what would Sidious have done with Vader (his role/job in the empire) if Vader hadn't been dismembered at Mustafar?
Good question …maybe nothing
Sidious is dead within the year, maybe the month.
His plans would've been moot as that Vader would've killed Sidious very soon after their victory. Iirc Vader had already loosely started planning killing Sidious before he engaged Obi-Wan on Mustafar.
He would train Vader as a successor, tesching him more on the political side. Vader would overthrow him in about 5 years after he learns what he needs to
Rule.
Day 497 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
So basically Vader was worried that Palpatine was going to turn him into Robotman from Doom Patrol…
The Mustafar battle seemed a bit too gimmicky. Who ever was the strongest force user was going to win regardless of how good they were with a light saber.
Anakin was more than powerful than Obi-Wan in the force though. Obi-Wan was originally not accepted as a padawan because the council saw that he had less than average potential in the force. He was sent to help out with agriculture and received a second chance to become a jedi by helping Qui-Gon Jinn I believe. Anakin on the other hand had a higher Midi-chlorian count than Yoda. Obi-Wan was able to win because he knew Anakin well and he was able to be more calm and focused.
Thing is with something like this is he could make Vader quite a bit worse even more then already was post Mustufar. In all honesty Palpatine was ALWAYS trying to get Vader to be a true Sith without changing him anymore then needed, lest like said, he made IT WORSE an irreversibly. As Science WASNT Palpatines strong suit an he knew it. An honestly, there WASN'T vast majority of time anyone both strong as even Classic Vader or as trustworthy for Palpatine
Drink a shot, whenever he says ''just like Grievous''.
HEY #STUPENDOUSWAVE, PALPANTINE IS NOW DEAD. The Rule of Two suggests an APPRENTICE is out there...
#STUPENDOUSWAVE have any comic suggested a new twist.
Yet Darth Vader die hard Fan boys in the Star Wars fan community love to try to convince me that post Cybernetics Darth Vader is stronger then how he was Before the injuries as Anakin
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The Star Wars lore exposes & proves that Cyborg Vader is not only weaker physically but in other ways beyond the physical.
An amazing mental strategist yes but he is a shallow shell of what he once was many years prior During “Order 66” ☝🏾.
Vader had to fight with a more tactical mind , cheap tricks & unsuspecting moves to Kill his enemies then through pure skill.
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Man even in his weakened state Vader Crush Grievous
Vader was a cripple, no arms or legs, just a stump. Burn out lungs too, need a machine to breathe. If he had stayed whole, his strenght would out grow Palpatine. Because of his massive injuries, he was now stuck as Sidious lacky. Not strong enough to over throw him.
I got admit that never new that Darth Vader fears that he just new General Grievous I never thought Vader even think about Grievous so this was eye opening that Vader understand both his situation and his position both Empire and Emperor plans it truly sad view especially realizing that Grievous was pawn in begin
But obi won been beat he's ass again he threw rocks on him and then walked away thinking he wouldn't get out of that wrong lol
Grevious was a means to an end as part of the sith's grand plan during the clone wars as a mindless butcher to lead the forces of the confederacy and do with it horrific viciousness and bloody efficiency. Vader was a sith lord of tremendous skill and power, the right hand and chosen successor of Darth Sidious, destined to rule at his side and only ended up in a slightly lower role due to his own missteps and failure on mustafar.
My thoughts are simply empathy. Make your bed now sleep in it. Madness of mice and men.
Had too much going on around this time if I'm being honest
@the stupendous wave - you should do a video about the in-store causes of the differences in the Disney Sequels Timeline and the so-called Legends Timeline.
What happens differently, and why, to make things go in such different directions.
Vader was like im not a agile as i use to be got stop Palpatine from general grievous me
Bro you need to go back to school.
How do you mess up expressing yourself through text
You literally press send after you’re done typing it
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Broken english language 2 for you?
Try again but actually try
I thought of this but man I never realized that’s how Vader felt
Why? Why wouldn't he be.
I mean, he kinda was
He wasnt
How to turn back to light Side of the force if you have fallen to dark side
The jedi had a Rehabilitation center on typhon
50/50 shot
@@Melkor8249 rehabilitation center? I mean thank you for answer I appreciate it but just sounds so ineffective hahhahahah like trying to cure psychopaths In real life it never works
@darthsidius9631 yea it was real hush hush only for important jedi they don't care about the knights only high ranking masters
This should give him more incentive to upgrade his suit or find away to clone his body and only in starwars relegated to a position to command a massive army is a bad thing
Control of just the army is bad when you were promised EVERYTHING
Vader never raised above enforcer so Grievous was actually better
General is under Darth rank, if Darth Vader was in the clone wars he wouldve been Grievous's superior
@@rodneybeckstedt6032 I doubt it, Vader wasn't allowed to touch Tarkin or Thawn. Really the most Vader ever did was field commander. He never had a grander picture of how the clone wars would end or any political power outside his wife and Palp
@@vikingsword3485 he only let them live because of concequence and stategic value, if he thought them better dead he would have dealt with palpatine instead of the underlings
@@rodneybeckstedt6032 He let them live because he was a lap dog. He had no say in how the Empire was run. Even if he managed to kill Palp he had no support to rule. The most he could do is rule over the dead
@@rodneybeckstedt6032 That is not why he let them live, he did so because he was told to like a good lap dog. He had no say in the Empire
This is great. Great explanation! It was Anakin's fault. Everything. Defeat on Mustafar,death of Padme,loos of his friends. It was Anakin's fault. So Vader's power started to grow much faster,stronger. He really became Sith Lord and one of the leaders of the Empire. May the Force be with you too😊
the deathstar was a sith
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Only a evil person would do something like that , our benevolent Emperor would never do anything like that.
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Hey there.
All Vader EVER was just a tool of the Emperor; a magnet to draw the debilitating effects of the dark side, & a visual aid (boogeyman) to enact the Emperor's Pogroms, while "keeping his hands clean". Nothing else.
Number 1!!
Could Anakin stop blasters with his hands like Vader does?
First