Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery - Framed out Sequoia on the cliff edge!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2020
- July 31st a volunteer team from Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery was dispatched to Gordon Gulch just south of Ward, Colorado to get a Toyota Sequoia that got too close to the washout edge and got high centered when the edge gave way.
We used my Orange jeep with a 2:1 tethered to the back frame rails with transit clusters on a strap, and the white jeep was redirected off a tree from the driver side to prevent the front end from sliding into the washout and potentially rolling the vehicle.
While it looked scary, the rigging was relatively simple and the pulling went quite smooth once that initial mire factor finally broke free. The first 12 inches of a pull like this is usually the hardest. We had to chalk my tires to prevent me from pulling downhill.
Another smooth and safe operation completed by Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Filed under "What were they thinking taking that line?". Nice Camera!
i think it was dark when this happened, your depth perception offroad is substantially different in the dark.
looks like he tried to straddle the ruts and slid sideways
Lots of people in here underestimating what a 1st gen sequoia can do. Just think... it's like a fat 4th gen 4runner with a v8 for half the money 😂👍
A 4wd first gen sequoia with a 2.5” lift and 33’s is very capable. They came with an early generation of Toyota ATRAC traction control that is actually pretty good offroad
Yep. I borrowed one for a week of ramblin' on the big island of Hawaii and it was very capable and a lot of fun. I would absolutely buy one.
@@seven11dmd I'm looking at a 2 owner gem right now for $6500 😀 now if I could only justify another Toyota to block up my driveway😂
@@lasersailor0080 I'm new to the off road community what do you mean with 33's what exact tire size are the 33's and how can you tell. Thank you!
I BET THAT IS A REAL SURPRISE WHEN FULL OF WATER
"Oh look a nice puddle to splash through........................... WHY AM I UNDERWATER NOW!!!!!!!!!"
Its exactly why I avoid puddles in new places
Should definitely gauge water depth before driving in 😂
Those tires at the 3:27 mark....YEEE-OWZA!!! They aren't exactly the tread type that I'd be off-roading with! And seeing that you're a volunteer group of folks, that's awesome. I just hopes folks you bail out make a "healthy donation" so you can keep on doing what you do. Strong work men...great job!
City folk should just stay home
Nice rigs and equipment. Great knowledge of operators.
Thanks for taking the time to film/post these man. I've learned a lot watching them
Great video thank you for sharing cheers from Redding California🍻🍻
Good job Justin. My problem is it was too short! Must be a lot of satisfaction in the recovery and also helping folks get their vehicles back.
Nicely done!
My rule. Never be first through a puddle
someone has to take one for the team though haha! (poke it with a stick first and see how soft the bottom is)
Justin King :::: If you can find a bottom !!....
...That's why some of the crazy crawlers have a snorkel setup ,, not just to look cool ...
Walk it first.
Youre life must be boring😜🤣
Great video thank you!
Excellent work folks.
Smooth as always!
we aim for no drama in recoveries!!
Well done, nice jeep mate.
Nice work !
WOW 😮. GREAT JOB💪🏼
Good job guys....
Nice rigs you guys have there! I hate to think about how much these recoveries must cost but, the customer seemed happy you did it. Thanks for sharing some other skills for those of us stuck with a shovel, come-along and an old army recovery manual. :~D
would you believe it if i said there is ZERO charge!? we are a 501c3 non-profit and do not charge anything for our services, but donations are not uncommon after an op finishes.
@@JustinKingOffroad I'm speechless, I didn't even know there was such a thing as a free professional recovery service? It boggles my mind; How do you deal with abuse, even I'm tempted to go get stuck now just to meet you crazy guys? How is this funded? Can I join? Do I get a Jeep or will you tolerate a Ford? Whats day to request your service? I'm kidding of course but, not really. I'm watching more videos now and sending lot's of love from this Native.
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P.S. Matt's towing and recovery sent me here, I think?
good work !! Thanks
Nice rigging and recovery. Looks like it could have ended badly for the dudes Sequoia had it not been done right.
Good video, while it may look like a simple job that was easily handled that's because of the experience of the recovery vehicles involved. The same situation could have turned in a major fail video if someone without the experience showed up to help. A professional will always make it look easy, then when you step into try it out you realize how hard it really is.
Matt would have just Yankum'ed out of there... Nice clean recovery though.
kinetic ropes most certainly have their place in offroad recovery. really hairy situations like this need the ease and predictability of a winch. now me getting my truck stuck in snow...yeah we bungee rope that out all the time haha!
Nah I think Matt would of done if a lot more smoothly with the ropes
Yankem out Matt. Jk bro, that looked difficult as hell. Not to mention you are trying not to mess up the customer’s vehicle. That was professional
I was thinking the same thing lol, He probably wouldn't have even had the winch with him anyway lol
I have to ask why would you connect a pulley with a shackle to a soft shackle to a strap?
That was fun
Using radios when 10 feet apart...Hmm seen this before. Ham radio nerds?...Yup HAM radio nerds! :) ...Awesome stuff!
beats yelling over the sound of an engine haha
I would have to bite my tongue to keep from saying something about people’s lack of judgement on one like that.
Justin, it looks like there was a re-rig we did not see when the x-lock reached the pulley. Was the vehicle stable when you de-tensioned or was something else necessary? Thanks!
correct, had the driver hold brakes and i removed the x-lock from the line.
Why are the winch lines crossed?
I really enjoy watching your videos. Takes me back to when I lived in the western slope area. Have you ever had a rescue on Holy Cross City trail? Loved that trail.
There have been a few on holy cross!
@@JustinKingOffroad any videos?
Mom's gonna be pissed.
Your not kidding, a sequoia, what the hell was that thing doing there. At 6,000lbs+ that kid was lucky he didn’t have to call the Army Corp of Engineers to get a Sikorsky Skycrane to airlift that behemoth out of the woods.
firebir11 why not a Sequoia? They are GREAT SUV’s
@@firebir11 4WD sequoias are actually pretty capable with a suspension lift and some better tires.
These are great off road
More like 5000k lbs
Who doesnt love a good snatch block
Lol!
LOL - me and the boys were just talking about the Sequioa...distant, 3rd-cousin (twice-removed) wannabe 200 series. It tries so hard...
But @1:22...there's just no escaping the fact that it is no 80 series. And that image is sad indeed.
Otherwise, looks like you guys have done that before. lol
Excellent teamwork. Textbook recovery. Job well done.
not the first rodeo haha!! we have been trained by the best I4WDTA folks in the world!
That was an interesting line he chose to take there 🤔
Building a overland rig and of course getting a winch for the front, but debating on whether I should put one on the rear as I do a lot of solo exploring 🤔
generally speaking you don't need them in the back. lots of ways to pull yourself backwards with a forward winch
I had a difficult recovery pulling at sxs over and out with an atv. How do you keep the battery charged properly? Rev it?
That and breaks in the pulling
Justin King thanks, it was hot out and my fan was running lots. Used my TigerTail to get it out. My Bubba rope was in my other atv.
Good thing he has his mask on the ticks might have the coop in all that fresh mountain air
I only came to the comments to see how many people were laughing at the surgical mask… shockingly few ! It so ridiculous that so many people have absolutely zero understanding of the fundamentals of filtration and nature of viruses. Shame shame shame. That mask will barely stop the dust & dirt much less a 0.2 micron virus that probably isn’t even present and isn’t even dangerous for most people. Of course he could have leukemia and a very weak immune system but even then, that mask isn’t gonna do a dam thing.
I am curious cause somebody else mentioned it what kind of camera are you using very nice quality
I run a GoPro hero 5 and 7
Justin King thanks much mate Nice quick work on that sequoia
Justin what was the hook/chain setup under the vehicle you used to anchor to the frame of the customers rig. I’ve never seen those before. I’m sure you have a video on them if you do shoot me a link or vid title. Thx :)
I believe you're talking about the transit cluster. Some times called JCR keys etc. Popular in the towing world. Don't have a very strong rating so gotta be careful with them.
@@JustinKingOffroad perfect. Thx
So how does somebody contact you for a rescue? I hope I never get into a predicament like that. How does one get on a crew to get trained to do rescue like this? Do ya'll have a website, or other info somewhere? Great job!
people call our dispatch number. we can be found at www.co4x4rnr.org
out of curiosity what do you charge for a recovery like this?
Nothing! But donations are appreciated to the org!
Is that up pickle gulch? Looks like a stretch in pickle! 😂
gordon gulch trail actually.
Is that trail and massive hole on the way to the campsites in Gordon Gulch? Or is it a side road?
It is a side road
@@JustinKingOffroad thank you. Going up there this week so wanted to avoid that lol keep up the good work!
So are these videos the same like Matt's Towing and Recovery?
kinda but no. this is a volunteer group vs a paid commercial outfit.
@@JustinKingOffroad respect! Awesome thing you're doing!
Great clip as always Justin. One question though. On the connection to the front of the stuck vehicle , I note there was a thimble, hook, shackle & soft shackle. I believe you could reduce the amount of potential shrapnel by connecting the winch rope thimble directly to the soft shackle. Would be interested in your view. Regards Nick
That is indeed a rigging option, however if for some reason things slacked up or bounced real hard doing it this way prevented tearing of the soft shackle with the hook. Those soft shackles are rated to 50,000 or so.
Justin King , cool, thanks for a heads up on your thinking. I use soft shackles as my go to .Regards Ncik
Bring on the ham man
So why d-rings on all the soft shackles? seems to be more unsafe, if that soft shackles lets go now you have a hook and d-ring flying.
It wasn't really needed but it helps keep the hook from ripping the soft shackle if we slack off the line and things moved.
I never seen that aluminum spider looking thing. I’ve never used synthetic line. I’ve never used the Yankum ropes ball shackle deal. I don’t have a TH-cam channel either. I do lots of recoveries here in Coos Bay. I like to watch these videos.
synthetic line is for people who dont know how to rig most of it is pushed over the fear of it breaking. if you dont overload your rigging and its kept in good condition it wont break. even synthetic line will snap back when you rip the anchor point off. steel just takes the abuse better. if you just throw a little oil on the line every now it will last years in the sun and rain unlike synthetic
Hey Im native. Where is this? I wanna check this out!!
it's near gordon gulch along the peak to peak highway, south of ward, north of nederland.
Was that on the 505 or Peaceful Valley? Looks familiar.
This was Gordon gulch, little SE of 505.
What’s the advantage of using that metal rope connector? I’ve never seen one before. Seems like a big projectile if something went wrong?
technically it was un-needed. but it helps prevent the winch hook from cutting the soft shackle if the line slacked off and things moved.
I’m guessing you’re talking about the x lock off the front bumper. It’s to take up slack in the rope so he can have the drum spooled out all the way where it is the strongest. It wasn’t necessary in this case and added extra risk in the setup. A lot of poor decisions were made with this rigging.
@@whatwouldjasondo2883 have you taken any I4WDTA training?
Justin King Many of us have looked into it but passed due to the safety issues with their curriculum. And the type of training I’ve been through over the last 2 decades is extensive and not available to the public. This was the first video I’ve watched of yours. You have way too many mechanical connections. Sometimes it’s necessary but most of the D rings in this video weren’t and the X wasn’t needed either. A basic double line back to the bumper would be more than enough. No disrespect intended and I didn’t realize you were doing this as a business until after I commented. I’m sure you won’t claim to know everything about winching and would agree that less mechanical connections could have been used in this specific pull. Great video otherwise 👍🏻
@@whatwouldjasondo2883 the trainer makes all the difference. It's not a business, this is an all volunteer group, state recognized sar team, and yes we had extra items in the rigging, but I needed to be on my last wrap and couldn't back up further for the angle I needed with the equipment I had on hand. There's no offense, and I am not trying to be a smart ass. It was a legit question and I appreciate your legit answer. Some day I'd say try it out, it REALLY opened my eyes up to safe recovery practice. At no point in time did we exceed the ratings of any of the rigging, but we were close to maxed out on the transit clusters. Each of those was good to 4,700, so I figured I put close to 9,500 total (shared between them) to break that initial bond with the ground. Thanks for watching!!
Great video!!! Thanks for sharing.... What HT are you using?
this is an Anytone 878, dual band V/U and dual band DMR. it's ok... not my favorite honestly. but once you program it up it's a solid radio. front panel access of repeaters manually by freq is a PITA.
Justin King what’s your favorite radio to use? HT wise...
honestly, i wish i'd have never sold it. i had a TH-F6A that was super easy to use, the menu was very friendly and you could dial up a repeater in seconds.
Justin King I had one of those very nice radio. What is your everyday use HT the one that works no matter what? Me I really like my wounding oh-uv6x and my yeasu ft 70dr
@@Pops_607 Right now it is that any tone radio. I have basically everything programmed in there I'd ever need so I don't have to do any front panel access of machines.
Why take that line tho? Would it have not fit going hard to the right where its dog out??
i think it was dark when when did this and your depth perception is off a bit. just got too close to edge.
@@JustinKingOffroad that makes sense... it's a whole different run in the dark.
Good work. I personally do not like the idea of crossing winch lines. I understand that may have been the only option, buf did you look at other options that didn't include that
yes, we didn't want to drive down in front of the vehicle, so we went with the line cross method. it would have probably taken about 30 minutes to drive around and come in from below with one rig, but this worked ok.
Cool
I would have asked "why did you do that" but I'm not the professional.
LOL, looked like a simple one,,, got a little wonky thou lol
Hahaha! Yes sir!
Always look and get line first
Dang not the sequoia that’s my dream car!
How do you join an SAR group like this?
www.co4x4rnr.org and click on member signup
Justin King Thank you Sir! It was cool to read about your group and more about what it is you do. I’m still watching all your videos so you might have already touched on this but a video specifically about the organization and how calls go out and are organized and members etc could be really cool. Bring some more awareness to the work you guys are doing!
The Gust get stuck and have them recover you 😉
They had masks…. I’d of let them sit. Kudos to you generous folks.
Morse code?
Why put the spider looking thing in the winch line? Seems like it didn't serve any purpose, other than something to kill you of the line broke.
It did add mass to the line no doubt, but we stayed well within the limits of the gear. I did a video on the x lock and what it's used for after this one. It allows you to get to the last wrap on your drum where the most pulling power is on a winch.
What is the name of the temporary winch line shortening tool?
That is the safe extract x-lock
Justin King thanks.
I just posted a video of the x-lock. Check it out!
Maybe this is just inexpirence talking, but why would you put your front line against the bull bar? I know there's not a lot of load on it, but it seems that wouldn't be secure under most circumstances?
It was the angle that we needed to pull on and it was the most secure mount for the safety line to prevent the vehicle from going over into the washout. That was a frame mounted point and there wasn't too much load on it.
@@JustinKingOffroad I'm fairly new to Wheeling, so that's why I asked. I knew why you tied the front end off, because we got stuck like that one time, and when we pulled straight back the front end dropped off. Fortunately he had enough down travel in his suspension that he didn't roll over, but it could have been bad.
What would you have done if you didn't have that to tie off to?
Why'd you use a strap and pill from the middle vs putting a soft shackle around whatever you had the strap tied off to in the corner of the back?
we would have bridled the frame and pulled that way, but that gets complicated with wrapping chain around frames vs transit clusters that can rip out of a frame.
Would have been better to have him turn all the way to right not straight. Probably could have been done with one wench too the back end pulling at angle to the left
Umm why have i not found this channel much sooner
I don't know but welcome aboard lol!!
Wearing a mask in the middle of the fin mountains!?!?!?!??! Wow
Surprised you guys haven't had neck gaitors made with a logo on it instead of the hospital looking ones.
we actually do have those, but they're for us on the team.
Good Thing Dude has a Mask On.
Nice work, might I suggest a camera man?
I actually am the camera man for huge operations, but on the small ones it's pov like this.
But he has such nice knees. :D
@@jedironin380 LOL!!!!!
As soon as you got to the job site!!, you should have turned around and go get a front loader and a backhoe!!😬😬 You could have been done within less than 30 minutes!!!😮😮👍👍
Could be in the middle of nowhere CO. You might not have the ability to trailer a machine like that close enough to the stranded vehicle.
@@TheHamburgler123 Yeah!, you got a point there! Let's just hope they have skid plates?? and they are covering very well good area??, that needed to be covered!!! ???👍😮😮😮
It seems like the less capable a truck is, the wider the trails get.
Why cross winch lines? Creates an interference point
so we didn't have to drive down the 4 foot drop off to get in front of the vehicle. it's certainly not ideal to do that, but it was ok in this case.
@@JustinKingOffroad Why not have your winch on front, his pulling rearward?
Because the drop off was on the passenger side, where the other Jeep was. No matter what lines had to cross.
I thought, who would do that?
Then I seen that the driver was wearing a mask. Explains it all!!!!
Yeah, his mask forced him to take a bad line.
@@saginawdan na, but his lack of common sense is evident with his mask wearing in the dam forest! That's all!!!
Slingshot’s Kinetic Recovery Tow Ropes are THE tool to use when towing or stuck vehicles.
They have their place. This was not the place.
There are times...special times, when you need to say it out loud: "What the fuck was that guy thinking!" LOL! At my worst, most inebriated condition, no.I have taken a Chevy Blazer up a 45 degree hill, at midnight, after a bottle of Jack, but this? No.
Dude, those little front bull bars are usually for show only and are not strong enough to rig to.
We had the shackle at the frame mount, so it's the strong point on them.
My only concerned is the crossed up winch lines
Why do you use so many unnecessary shackles. An extra soft shackle at the snatch block. An extra d ring on the front bumper. It’s safer to use the least amount of connections when rigging.
That equipment owner wanted to protect the soft shackles a bit if the line slacked off, yes it was extra but ok as we calcd the loads and was well within the equipment ratings.
Way too many D Rings. Defeats the purpose of the Soft Shackles.
Great recovery. But it looks to me like there is something more than just washout going on there. The hole on the right side of the vehicle looks like it was dug by a small excavator. It's too square to be washout IMHO. Maybe somebody is trying to make the road impassable?
it's just the terrain, as it rains hard it washes downhill. most of this damage stems from the flooding rains in 2013. as people try to drive up they tear it up a bit more. it's a fun trail!
Why soft shackles?
What*
my green ones were gator jaw.
There was never a line, for this stock Toy!
Cliff? That looks more like a ditch.
that word has multiple definitions lol: "a critical point or situation beyond which something bad or undesirable may occur" aka that rig rolls over into the washout.
wearing mask in the middle of forrest... hahahah
People need to stop taking moms car out mudding lmao
Ya need about 13 more d-rings on there.
I have more in the truck haha
That was painful to watch why didn't you you single line between the the trees and the stricken vehicle of a snatch block infront and Winch him forwards..
Also so what is the giant aluminium block doing in the middle of your winch line
the vehicle needed to come uphill to egress to the highway, so instead of winch forward into another obstacle we'd have to winch up again, we went backwards. that x-lock i just covered in another video. i needed my winch line on the last wrap of the drum, and that shortens it.
harbor freight has wheel chocks for like 5 bucks my dude
we used a downed tree as an anchor
I don't understand how he got both passenger tires off the edge. Either he was going at a good clip or he did something stupid once one tire went over the edge. Had I done that in my jeep, I would have needed a whole lot of body work done. Lucky he was in a low rider.
It was dark when they drove down there and the edge gave way
@@JustinKingOffroad Ok, I opened mouth before engaging brain. I had read that it was dark. Re-watching the video I saw that the edge did give way. At least on the front tire. Still, piss poor driving. I have driven roads where the edge is hidden by brush. I so hang to the drivers side so stuff like this does not happen. If I did not I maybe dead today. 2000' drop offs.
Little video, at the end you can see my Jeep. Please notice how everyone hangs to driver side. BTW, the scrub brush has grown up far more than in this video, leads to good pin striping, LOL.
th-cam.com/video/1_PQvsAw110/w-d-xo.html
"Not quite as described". Milk through the nose.
Y’all should check out Matt’s off-road recovery and get some yankum ropes. Might could learn something
the use of kinetic ropes have their place. this is not the place.
@@MattsOffRoadRecovery I love the bubba rope I have, makes quick work of my stuck power wagon in deep snow lol!!
Seriously why would one even think of driving any further in vehicle like that lol
Why wear a mask outside??
Only needed if we were in close proximity to each other, they just decided to leave it on
Why oh why would you try that in that ... some toyotas arent the right toyotas little buddy
3 vehicles, lot off equipments
One man can dig it out shear waist
One man can dig it out shear waist off money
There is no cost to the owner for recovery
This seems to be a setup for the views... no idiot would risk that in a stock Toyota.. that could’ve been completely avoided...
Not a setup lol! I promise you that.
Those wheels should have been pointed passenger that whole time 🤦🏼♂️
Wearing a mask in the middle of the god damn national forest
trust me we don't like it either
Why is that dude wearing a mask?