you don’t wanna force a belief but truthfully speaking you kinda did. If some one has an iPad and makes music that competes with standalone gear then they are cool. It’s about preference.
Can the MPC be taken to the park, cafe, garden, toilet, bedroom, on a flight? MPC is great and Iconic. Koala is on a whole new level. That's my opinion, to each his own. At the end of the day each should use what's best for them. No need for beef.
@@boomboombaby9140 that doesn't have any iota of truth to it at all. The output you hear solely depends on the quality of your DAC and/or your headphones/speakers.
@@drunkenstylus have you done it ? The sound in the koala is flat , the mpc puts out a warmer sound . I tried to use the koala sampler in a clutch and had to remake the beat over because the artist and engineer wasn’t happy . When I finished we played the same beat side by aside and the koala beat was thinner while the mpc had range , dept and of a much higher quality. On the koala the higher the volume the more the drums would clash also the instrument the mpc stayed balanced.
@@boomboombaby9140 Yes I have. I use both devices( Koala on a Samsung Tab S) and the sound quality is great from both. The context in which you have contrasted "Flat" and "warmer" in regards to sound recording and production terminology proves to me that you are probably capping or don't know what the terms you are using mean. "Flat" is used to describe EQ (settings usually) default when all gain is at 0db which a spectrum analyzer would display as a "flat" curve. "Warmer" is generally used to describe sound produced by analog gear ( vinyl or cassette tape or sounds running through an analog desk like a Neve or SSL mixer) or earlier digital devices like the E-mu SPs or Akai MPCs due to distortion in the sound caused by the lower sampling and bit rates. If what you are saying is true about the sound quality then you probably have a faulty device or you are doing something else wrong in the process. Have a nice day.
@@drunkenstylus I don’t believe you because it’s a fact that if you take the same sound and put it on both mpc or the koala sampler the mpc will produce a higher quality of sound. The drums sounds and instruments sounds fuller on the mpc than the koala or any app. I played snare drums in high school so I know what I’m talking about. I’m saying flat like thin no sound texture, the koala sounds good until you put it next to a mpc . I have rocket 5 monitors and Sony studio headphones I can hear it . If what you say is true I wouldn’t have to take my mpc with me when I travel . I bought my house and my bmw 745 li from producing so don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. I finance my lifestyle off music .
I have both. The biggest feature Koala offers the MPC can’t? Drag and drop. Drag and copy. Drag and move both samples and sequences. I’ve had MPCs since the 2000 series days and never been able to work as fast as koala. The very first day I had koala I made a couple of sequences fully put together and bounced down that actually got used. MPC Has more powerful filters and obviously effects and synth plugs. But I can’t lay on the couch and make a beat on my MPC. It needs to be on a flat surface. Also, the Koala can read and store directly on your iCloud ending up organized with all your other audio files. Could go on. They both have strengths but if you already have an IPad Pro. Good video, and I enjoy the comments.
To be fair, a person could also add a bunch of gear to their MPC setup that would raise costs as well. Add a midi keyboard, an external mixer, a microphone, and studio monitors, and your MPC went from $1,400 to $2,400.
koala + midi controller is everything u really need for a sampler/sequencer -- mpc one sells itself as being this "all in one" unit but the lack of non-touchscreen interaction makes it seem like its missing something, different strokes for different folks, but theres a reason they dont have touch screen guitars
Nice comparison. I can tell some will be partial to hardware because it sounds “fatter” or “better”. These days it’s beginning to hardly tell the difference. What a great time to be in the present times!
to be fair, iPad also can be used with other apps for inter app audio (like AUM) and allow for tonssss of sounds to be manipulated in Koala. synths, and lots of ways to manipulate there too (like Samplr, great app)
MacroMind's MusicWorks was the first to implement the digital version of a piano roll in 1984. MPC wasnt quite out yet. The analog piano roll goes back to the 1880s for anyone interested. The digital version actually matches the parameters in midi of the physical characteristics of the original ones.
that is some cool old MIDI stuff, but the first commonly used digital "piano roll" type interface predates MIDI and is the "Page R" sequencer on the Fairlight CMI Series II from 1980 I saw a recent demo of modern tunes played on an old working player piano with actual piano rolls (some places still make them) and the level of expression was very impressive, but it's a real niche thing these days with the Yamaha Diskklaviers and other more moden approaches to automated pianos taking over
Own and use both in conjunction. Split stems or time stretch on koala and sample into mpc. Koala is my go to when I’m at work though or just sitting on the couch and wanna get off an idea without having to go turn on the studio. Just a iPad mini and TH-cam and you can have a good time for a min
Dude doesn’t know that, his latest video is him shitting on Elf Audio for the comments of individuals. Claiming toxicity… as an mpc owner for over 2 decades I can honestly vouch that as far as communities go? The MPC community is toxic AF going far back in to the day’s of MPCTutor’s MPCForums (pre TH-cam). They would shit on everything not Akai and anyone not using Akai… worse than vinyl purists and vegans 😂😂😂
This was a good comparison Ave. I plan to get the MPC One+ in the future, I just kinda tried out Koala to see if I would like this type of workflow and have got myself addicted to the art of sampling now. I'm not sure if you are aware of the recent mixer/bus and FX update in Koala , might make for an interesting upload of you trying it out. :)
Yeah I'm an avid MPC user but have koala installed on my phone for ideas that pop up when I'm on the go, but not covering the newest mixer/fx add-on is a huge miss. The Koala community are super hyped about it and it's totally transformed the diversity of the app for many users.
Respect Due. 🐨 is the joint. Comparison to the MPC is trivial. Each is its own Beast. Combined are a Bigger Beast. Beatmaker 3 vs. MPC is more likely comparable being that Beatmaker 3 has the ability to host AUV3 and IAP. To each their own. Lets make 🎶.
Agreed. I love both. For getting quick ideas out literally anywhere, Koala is the undisputed champ. Do you have all the options that an MPC has? Nope. Does MPC have all the options that Ableton or FL or any other DAW has? Nope. But these aren’t apples to apples comparisons anyway. And this new Koala mixer is something else. You can flesh out complete ideas and export easy to DAW. I personally love Koala and for $14 I’ve spent on it is unlike anything else. (let’s be honest 80% of adults in the entire world already have a smart phone out of necessity so including that in the price is just silly). Finally, Koala is developed by one dude who has been so receptive to feedback and updates. I feel much much better about supporting him than I do inMusic (bye bye Moog ✌🏽).
I use a 10 yrs OLD iPad (Air2 €40) that works with KOALA, AUM and LOOPY PRO (all latest versions) running at the SAME time. MiniLabMK2 plus a Korg PadKontrol as controllers. Adding ATOM2 (advanced pianoroll), SAMPLR, whatever + sum free FX and such, you can create an MPC killer and it still is MUCH cheaper. And if the CPU can’t handle this, buy an extra iPad like I did 😅 (iPad Air2013 32gb for €25). I still use my faster iPhone XR (which I got for free) for some gigs, but the screen is to small. PS: MPC didn’t invent PianoRoll. It was invented in the 1800s and in the 80’s it was already used by Cubase o.a. I used it first since I stept from trackers to FruitLoops 3 I think MPC didn’t have piano roll till ten or fifteen years ago. Still a useful video though! Thx 🙏 PPS. Harry Mack is king 👑
idk why you were pushing the point on “you on a 5 dollar app on a phone that costs 1000 dollars” like most people don’t already have a phone. i mean, how many people do you think watched this very video on their phone?
Koala is an amazing tool for MPC users. You can sample anything anywhere from your phone and Dropbox your sample and use them in MPC. Or split stems on the iPhone and transfer to MPC. What is there to complain about?
@badboy69cancer I'm actually not why would I lie I even have a video on my page showing how I do it with arcade. That is easy as heck cable from the mpc input into the output of any audio interface. Just ask for help if you want to know something
@@Djefsclusive you stated you could split stems without an app or a phone. That is a lie. The mpc does not. Idk why you ppl have to downplay anything that isn't an MPC. I've owned multiple MPC's and use the X now in conjunction with PC's and other devices in a hybrid setup and do love it, but let's not pretend that even the lowest budget option wally world laptop or tablet wouldn't run circles around any MPC to date. They are fast and they are fun, but they are a luxury, yet offer the some of the worst bang for your buck on the market.
@badboy69cancer ummm u def can if my mpc is connected to my pc and I'm sampling directly from my pc and I can split stems with my dj software where did I lie? Dumb azz all I'm saying is everything this piece of trash app does can be done by connecting your mpc to an audio interface and using your pc as it's brain. Now fuq off
Koala been dope for me, ill get my ideas on it n on the go for work or just watching my baby girl. Then resample it all onto the s2400 for that "sound" n dam its been a fun workflow
8 inch Amazon tablet + Koala = ~100 bucks. That's one of the cheapest stand-alone solutions I've seen so far. If one goes for a big screen on music gear, it usually gets expansive. PS: Google Play Store has to be installed to get Koala from an Amazon device. I already did that - no problem.
@@pgback3620 I'm still happy with the Fire HD 8 from 2020 (2022 edition is the latest). It has a long-lasting battery, and they still deliver updates. You just need the above hack for Koala.
I just gave Marek a small bug fix, so the Android navigation bar will not overlap with the lower part of the UI anymore. It will be part of the next update.
Koala works on Android too, for those who have android devices and wanna check it out. I think people get into koala for convenience, not because they don't understand the MPC. I have it on my android phone for field recording and creating my own one shots
what are you talking about, a koala sampler for example is 15 bucks and a new ipad mini 2 sealed is 110 bucks, KZ planar headphones, and now you can record video from the screen, take any sample and create... but the MPC needs to be connected to power , technically serviceable, since it has physical knobs and pads, and the Cirrus logic chip and amplifiers from the iPad are smart enough for playback, and this MPC is exactly the same electronic device, it’s not a classic like the MPC 60, MPC 3000, MPC 500, which was greatly underestimated in its time... so friend, I don’t understand why you need a midi controller or an external sound card in the koala sampler.
Studio: MPC One connected to multiple synths and stuff Couch: SmplTrek and mobile gear (iPad, iPhone, or stuff like the MC-101) On the move: Drambo (king of kings), Koala, NanoStudio and AUM. Just use the right tool for the right job! Koala is amazing for starters though - probably one of the best options especially considering the price.
That’s a lie , mpc is leagues above koala sampler I own both . I make original beats and going up and down octaves it sounds weird. The fix is use garbage band and use koala as an iaa for drums. If you are a sample based producer that only add drums then koala is the goat . Other than that mpc does everything and more like transposes any sequence to give you crazy beat switching
I am very lucky in that I have an MPC One, a Digitakt and a Maschine MK3, I also have a M1 MacBook Air with Cubase, Ableton Suite, Bitwig Studio and a bunch of VSTs. On my iPad are numerous music apps. By far and away the most value for money music making system I own is Koala. You can run Koala on the most basic iOS and android device, pretty much everyone I know has one of these. So for the price of a round of drinks you can pretty much have a beat making beast on your device and it is always with you. As you may have guessed I love Koala.
I use Koala just on my phone (cheap Samsung phone). Nothing else. I've got all my one shot drums and breaks on an sd card. If I like a track I'll just export it and finish up the mix on my laptop. But that's it. No need for any extra gear and I have a phone anyway so I didn't buy the phone for Koala sampler. I also use Maschine and have had multiple MPCs. Just the convenience of Koala is unbeatable.
Here’s my view on it. Koala on your phone, beat maker 3 iPad, laptop daw of choice. I have a Maschine and a sp404, but honestly I could do everything without them. Save your dough or blow it. Just make music by any means possible and enjoy the process.
Ipad ipad iPad?! Why use an ipad when you just have to get a midi controler ?from 50 to a 100.bucks just use your smartphone or an Android tablet. Or just run it on your PC with Android. There are options to'use what you already own and spend less money as possible. Excuse my English i'm french. Peace y'all ✌🏽
I use both of them all the time Android Samsung tablet A9 plus is great Independent headphone out. Plus type c connection.and a zoom H5 field recorder, nano kontrol 2 daw Control
I love the last thing you said about not pushing your belief system. 🎉 koala on an iphone or andriod can get stems anytime. Stem separation is good, and you can export quick and nicely. Bring what you did during your day to the mpc… more tools. All winners…
The cost argument only holds so much weight. Who doesn’t already have a smart phone now? Your have to have one anyway. It’s not an extra expense. An Mpc is. The analogy was of course mpc one and iPad, but Koala 🐨 will run on an old iPhone SE that your grandma passed down to your little brother.
Keys Wallet Phone 👀 You guard them with yo LIFE. So... yeah. You could risk carrying an MPC with you. Ya gotta pack it good. Store is, etc... But ya, phone is NEVER LEAVING YA SIDE. So... having a capable and intuitive sampler app is an excellent idea. Imo.
LMAO 😂😂😂 keep getting jiggy mayne... It's all good. Yeah I'm popping up as usual when there is SmplTrek update. Hoping to get your take on the update once you had a chance to play with it a bit. I might have to get Koala sampler for my iPad and mess around with it. Nice comparison and contrast video.
MPC Pad Loop function Main page Track 01>Transpose set to 1. Program 001>Warp samples> Global tab>note on. Samples tab>pad loop on. Including different drum loops in the same mute group to alternate back and forth.
@@AveMcree man working…. Wife and kids (career)…Pausing on music because it’s just not fun at the time for me… the time I thought about getting into YT shit just full of drama… bro I gotta keep my blood pressure down… not getting on here for more drama in my life… just trying to figure out if making music makes me happy still…. Gotta get back to that, fun!
Iv learned so much from you Ave. People are gonna hate. Only a few uneducated people hate. Its not even close to the 99% of people who appreciate you, and respect you. Thank you for the great video. Im gonna stick with mpc. But it doesnt matter in the end what u use. As long as you love it. Thats forreal what matters.
Use koala sampler as an iaa in garage band for drums . Use GarageBand for your instruments and for auv3s . After you rearrange your beat export it , open up koala import audio , turn up the volume export current sample 🤯🤯🤯super high quality sound that makes me mad because I love my mpc up an iPad can almost stomp it
At the end of the day it doesn't matter watch you create on when the end result is measured by someone else's ears. No one listen to music outside of from the production community and have matter to them what someone made it on. The listen could care less about everything other than how it sounds and make them feel. The whole argument is simply invalid for either. Cost wise it's a no brainer. Check out some of those Koala battle videos and you'd think half of it was made on your favorite gear when it was actually made with Koala...
Did you just say Akai invented the piano roll? Cause I think at least 5 other companies/people have that claim and they all came before the first MPC. Just sayin'!
I ask him about adding an Au3 feature to Koala…When he did the mixer update… I kinda got the feeling that he wasn’t interested at all in that option ….But i do love koala even with out it…. It would be great though…
Koala has a great interface; I love how simple it is with the whole drag-and-drop workflow. I like to start a beat in Koala and then bring it inside Logic as a plugin. The MPC is just a wonderful piece of gear, a future classic, if you will.
What makes koala so much more friendly to the beginner looking into MPC like production is that lots of people already have an iPhone or android phone, for 5 bucks you can start producing straight from your pocket. Having an iPad really just provides a more dedicated device for the software. I think koala as an app is enough in the pocket to make someone know if they really are interested in producing and not break the bank.
Can’t really compare the 2, Koala is more like a SPXoX a Linear Phrase Sample Player not a Music Production Console, it’s a sketch pad not a studio Center piece. The inspiration behind Koala is Roland’s SP series not Aksi’s MPC range. It’s a great gate way into music production for people who don’t wish to fork out big bucks for a hardware unit. It’ll run a a $100 or less phone/tablet. This is an unfair competition in my opinion.
look guys if you a hardcore mpc fan go for it, if not just get this app plus some peripherals like an apd or some other midi shit and this lil mf software puts in WORK. i use that or ableton, miss me with that inconvenient mpc software!
The capabilities of Koala within the iOS ecosystem are off the grid when compared to the MPC line. Give Ave legit one month diving into Koala + AUM and he ain’t looking back.
Iv never use koala but it looks similar to the android bandlab sampler that was actually really good easy to use and sample direct or use sample packs i made a few banging tracks on it so im gonna have to give koala a bash
I like using Maschine After trying these new MPCs of today Maschine is Straight to the point On to the next Beat The New MPCs Keygroup and Navigating is too much for modern day production 🫡
But if you make original beats and sample a keyboard instrument when you go up and down octaves the koala sampler sounds weird and even cut off the length of the notes .
I am better on guitar and bass than keys because Ive put more time on guitars. Youre better on mpc as evidenced by the "please don't go" sampled beat you flipped awesomely on there. Given time, you'd be just as sick on Koala. For someone like myself who never made beats on an mpc, this simulates the experience well enough
Bruh why you have horns on in your thumbnail pic don't allow yourself to be sucked in to this demon time BS cuz don't do it!! i do music as a hobby learn a lot from your channel it's not that serious to sell ya soul G.......
My samsung has 24 gigs of ram memory, both the ram and the chip are way more powerful than the akai, but the akai is really also a sequencer so in a way they don't completely compare in that the akai is not just a sampler but a sequencer for other hardware.
I really like koala for messing around. Stupid cheap. I wish it would record internally from youtube though. I am upset w my brand new mpc one plus. Has crashed countless times doing basic stuff. I think the issue could be latest mpc firmware. I can't image mpc being so successful if it crashes everytime you use it.
@@boomboombaby9140 Issues were fixed after that comment. In fact, I picked up a Key 61 after liking the Mpc environment. My son now has the One Plus. He loves it.
you don’t wanna force a belief but truthfully speaking you kinda did. If some one has an iPad and makes music that competes with standalone gear then they are cool. It’s about preference.
Koala works on a $39 burner phone too.
Koala + ipad mini the ultimate weapon
Can the MPC be taken to the park, cafe, garden, toilet, bedroom, on a flight? MPC is great and Iconic. Koala is on a whole new level. That's my opinion, to each his own. At the end of the day each should use what's best for them. No need for beef.
The sound is thin though even if you use the same exact instrument they aren’t as rich as on the MPC .
@@boomboombaby9140 that doesn't have any iota of truth to it at all. The output you hear solely depends on the quality of your DAC and/or your headphones/speakers.
@@drunkenstylus have you done it ? The sound in the koala is flat , the mpc puts out a warmer sound . I tried to use the koala sampler in a clutch and had to remake the beat over because the artist and engineer wasn’t happy . When I finished we played the same beat side by aside and the koala beat was thinner while the mpc had range , dept and of a much higher quality. On the koala the higher the volume the more the drums would clash also the instrument the mpc stayed balanced.
@@boomboombaby9140 Yes I have. I use both devices( Koala on a Samsung Tab S) and the sound quality is great from both. The context in which you have contrasted "Flat" and "warmer" in regards to sound recording and production terminology proves to me that you are probably capping or don't know what the terms you are using mean. "Flat" is used to describe EQ (settings usually) default when all gain is at 0db which a spectrum analyzer would display as a "flat" curve. "Warmer" is generally used to describe sound produced by analog gear ( vinyl or cassette tape or sounds running through an analog desk like a Neve or SSL mixer) or earlier digital devices like the E-mu SPs or Akai MPCs due to distortion in the sound caused by the lower sampling and bit rates. If what you are saying is true about the sound quality then you probably have a faulty device or you are doing something else wrong in the process. Have a nice day.
@@drunkenstylus I don’t believe you because it’s a fact that if you take the same sound and put it on both mpc or the koala sampler the mpc will produce a higher quality of sound. The drums sounds and instruments sounds fuller on the mpc than the koala or any app. I played snare drums in high school so I know what I’m talking about. I’m saying flat like thin no sound texture, the koala sounds good until you put it next to a mpc . I have rocket 5 monitors and Sony studio headphones I can hear it . If what you say is true I wouldn’t have to take my mpc with me when I travel . I bought my house and my bmw 745 li from producing so don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. I finance my lifestyle off music .
I have both. The biggest feature Koala offers the MPC can’t? Drag and drop. Drag and copy. Drag and move both samples and sequences. I’ve had MPCs since the 2000 series days and never been able to work as fast as koala. The very first day I had koala I made a couple of sequences fully put together and bounced down that actually got used. MPC Has more powerful filters and obviously effects and synth plugs. But I can’t lay on the couch and make a beat on my MPC. It needs to be on a flat surface. Also, the Koala can read and store directly on your iCloud ending up organized with all your other audio files. Could go on. They both have strengths but if you already have an IPad Pro. Good video, and I enjoy the comments.
To be fair, a person could also add a bunch of gear to their MPC setup that would raise costs as well. Add a midi keyboard, an external mixer, a microphone, and studio monitors, and your MPC went from $1,400 to $2,400.
Koala also had midi mapping for a controller, so you can use a generic USB controller with an adapter and hit the pads
koala + midi controller is everything u really need for a sampler/sequencer -- mpc one sells itself as being this "all in one" unit but the lack of non-touchscreen interaction makes it seem like its missing something, different strokes for different folks, but theres a reason they dont have touch screen guitars
You should get the samurai and the new mixer update for koala. SOOOOOO many new features for it now.
Yeah, got it last week. Really nice extensions of this app
Nice comparison. I can tell some will be partial to hardware because it sounds “fatter” or “better”. These days it’s beginning to hardly tell the difference. What a great time to be in the present times!
to be fair, iPad also can be used with other apps for inter app audio (like AUM) and allow for tonssss of sounds to be manipulated in Koala. synths, and lots of ways to manipulate there too (like Samplr, great app)
MacroMind's MusicWorks was the first to implement the digital version of a piano roll in 1984. MPC wasnt quite out yet. The analog piano roll goes back to the 1880s for anyone interested. The digital version actually matches the parameters in midi of the physical characteristics of the original ones.
Shhh 🤫 no one cares
@@Soul_of_ and yet here you are. 😂.
Bla bla google nerd
@@Soul_of_ and your still here.
that is some cool old MIDI stuff, but the first commonly used digital "piano roll" type interface predates MIDI and is the "Page R" sequencer on the Fairlight CMI Series II from 1980
I saw a recent demo of modern tunes played on an old working player piano with actual piano rolls (some places still make them) and the level of expression was very impressive, but it's a real niche thing these days with the Yamaha Diskklaviers and other more moden approaches to automated pianos taking over
Own and use both in conjunction. Split stems or time stretch on koala and sample into mpc. Koala is my go to when I’m at work though or just sitting on the couch and wanna get off an idea without having to go turn on the studio. Just a iPad mini and TH-cam and you can have a good time for a min
Just so ya know, Koala was made and is maintained by just one guy, Marek. He also closely listens to the community and drops major updates regularly.
Dude doesn’t know that, his latest video is him shitting on Elf Audio for the comments of individuals. Claiming toxicity… as an mpc owner for over 2 decades I can honestly vouch that as far as communities go? The MPC community is toxic AF going far back in to the day’s of MPCTutor’s MPCForums (pre TH-cam). They would shit on everything not Akai and anyone not using Akai… worse than vinyl purists and vegans 😂😂😂
Koala has base sounds.
I was about to comment they need to look you up.
Thanks for sharing your point of view , I really respect it but I invite you to watch what the community made every week with the app . Peace ❤
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This was a good comparison Ave. I plan to get the MPC One+ in the future, I just kinda tried out Koala to see if I would like this type of workflow and have got myself addicted to the art of sampling now. I'm not sure if you are aware of the recent mixer/bus and FX update in Koala , might make for an interesting upload of you trying it out. :)
Yeah I'm an avid MPC user but have koala installed on my phone for ideas that pop up when I'm on the go, but not covering the newest mixer/fx add-on is a huge miss. The Koala community are super hyped about it and it's totally transformed the diversity of the app for many users.
Respect Due. 🐨 is the joint. Comparison to the MPC is trivial. Each is its own Beast. Combined are a Bigger Beast. Beatmaker 3 vs. MPC is more likely comparable being that Beatmaker 3 has the ability to host AUV3 and IAP. To each their own. Lets make 🎶.
Agreed. I love both. For getting quick ideas out literally anywhere, Koala is the undisputed champ. Do you have all the options that an MPC has? Nope. Does MPC have all the options that Ableton or FL or any other DAW has? Nope. But these aren’t apples to apples comparisons anyway. And this new Koala mixer is something else. You can flesh out complete ideas and export easy to DAW. I personally love Koala and for $14 I’ve spent on it is unlike anything else. (let’s be honest 80% of adults in the entire world already have a smart phone out of necessity so including that in the price is just silly). Finally, Koala is developed by one dude who has been so receptive to feedback and updates. I feel much much better about supporting him than I do inMusic (bye bye Moog ✌🏽).
i love you brother, but saying "without being biased" while selling mpc master class is somewhat sus
Dope stuff… the most realest objective feedback I’ve heard when it comes to gear reviews…
I use a 10 yrs OLD iPad (Air2 €40) that works with KOALA, AUM and LOOPY PRO (all latest versions) running at the SAME time. MiniLabMK2 plus a Korg PadKontrol as controllers.
Adding ATOM2 (advanced pianoroll), SAMPLR, whatever + sum free FX and such, you can create an MPC killer and it still is MUCH cheaper.
And if the CPU can’t handle this, buy an extra iPad like I did 😅 (iPad Air2013 32gb for €25). I still use my faster iPhone XR (which I got for free) for some gigs, but the screen is to small.
PS: MPC didn’t invent PianoRoll. It was invented in the 1800s and in the 80’s it was already used by Cubase o.a. I used it first since I stept from trackers to FruitLoops 3
I think MPC didn’t have piano roll till ten or fifteen years ago.
Still a useful video though! Thx 🙏
PPS. Harry Mack is king 👑
idk why you were pushing the point on “you on a 5 dollar app on a phone that costs 1000 dollars” like most people don’t already have a phone.
i mean, how many people do you think watched this very video on their phone?
😂I’m watching it on my Mpc
The info in your video description states Koala is for iOS which is true but not the whole truth. It's also available for Android. ✌️
Koala is an amazing tool for MPC users. You can sample anything anywhere from your phone and Dropbox your sample and use them in MPC. Or split stems on the iPhone and transfer to MPC. What is there to complain about?
But I could do all that without my phone or an app simply connect your mpc to your mixer lol
@@Djefsclusive stop it dude. You're lying through your teeth
@badboy69cancer I'm actually not why would I lie I even have a video on my page showing how I do it with arcade. That is easy as heck cable from the mpc input into the output of any audio interface. Just ask for help if you want to know something
@@Djefsclusive you stated you could split stems without an app or a phone. That is a lie. The mpc does not. Idk why you ppl have to downplay anything that isn't an MPC. I've owned multiple MPC's and use the X now in conjunction with PC's and other devices in a hybrid setup and do love it, but let's not pretend that even the lowest budget option wally world laptop or tablet wouldn't run circles around any MPC to date. They are fast and they are fun, but they are a luxury, yet offer the some of the worst bang for your buck on the market.
@badboy69cancer ummm u def can if my mpc is connected to my pc and I'm sampling directly from my pc and I can split stems with my dj software where did I lie? Dumb azz all I'm saying is everything this piece of trash app does can be done by connecting your mpc to an audio interface and using your pc as it's brain. Now fuq off
That sample is BOY oh BOY bananas. Great way to flip that classic. "Hey baby, I'm sorry. I never meant to hurt you." 🤣
Koala been dope for me, ill get my ideas on it n on the go for work or just watching my baby girl. Then resample it all onto the s2400 for that "sound" n dam its been a fun workflow
8 inch Amazon tablet + Koala = ~100 bucks. That's one of the cheapest stand-alone solutions I've seen so far. If one goes for a big screen on music gear, it usually gets expansive.
PS: Google Play Store has to be installed to get Koala from an Amazon device. I already did that - no problem.
any good recs? im thinking about moving from phone to tablet coz excessive koala usage
@@pgback3620 I'm still happy with the Fire HD 8 from 2020 (2022 edition is the latest). It has a long-lasting battery, and they still deliver updates. You just need the above hack for Koala.
Good thing cost isn’t my defining criteria for music creation. Nor do only want to have one device be the only source I have.
I just gave Marek a small bug fix, so the Android navigation bar will not overlap with the lower part of the UI anymore. It will be part of the next update.
@@towerrunner4675 Yoo appreciate u, I can barely use the thing landscape mode coz of this
Koala works on Android too, for those who have android devices and wanna check it out. I think people get into koala for convenience, not because they don't understand the MPC. I have it on my android phone for field recording and creating my own one shots
what are you talking about, a koala sampler for example is 15 bucks and a new ipad mini 2 sealed is 110 bucks, KZ planar headphones, and now you can record video from the screen, take any sample and create... but the MPC needs to be connected to power , technically serviceable, since it has physical knobs and pads, and the Cirrus logic chip and amplifiers from the iPad are smart enough for playback, and this MPC is exactly the same electronic device, it’s not a classic like the MPC 60, MPC 3000, MPC 500, which was greatly underestimated in its time... so friend, I don’t understand why you need a midi controller or an external sound card in the koala sampler.
...and this MPC is exactly the same electronic device, it’s not a classic... THAT'S WHAT"S UP!!!
Studio: MPC One connected to multiple synths and stuff
Couch: SmplTrek and mobile gear (iPad, iPhone, or stuff like the MC-101)
On the move: Drambo (king of kings), Koala, NanoStudio and AUM.
Just use the right tool for the right job!
Koala is amazing for starters though - probably one of the best options especially considering the price.
Don't forget gears like the Tracker Mini or the DirtyWave M8, they're no slouch when it comes to portable Daw in a box.
Never use koala but it looks similar to the bandlab sampler
Apparently Koalas scratch and piss on you if you hold 'em. So its only natural Koala pisses on the MPC! 😉
That’s a lie , mpc is leagues above koala sampler I own both . I make original beats and going up and down octaves it sounds weird. The fix is use garbage band and use koala as an iaa for drums. If you are a sample based producer that only add drums then koala is the goat . Other than that mpc does everything and more like transposes any sequence to give you crazy beat switching
Android tablets cost 50 bucks, Koala wins but MPC is the goat
mpc didnt "invent" the piano roll, I used that first on Cubase in 1989 on my atari and wiki says there were prequel to that
I am very lucky in that I have an MPC One, a Digitakt and a Maschine MK3, I also have a M1 MacBook Air with Cubase, Ableton Suite, Bitwig Studio and a bunch of VSTs. On my iPad are numerous music apps. By far and away the most value for money music making system I own is Koala. You can run Koala on the most basic iOS and android device, pretty much everyone I know has one of these. So for the price of a round of drinks you can pretty much have a beat making beast on your device and it is always with you. As you may have guessed I love Koala.
I use Koala just on my phone (cheap Samsung phone). Nothing else. I've got all my one shot drums and breaks on an sd card. If I like a track I'll just export it and finish up the mix on my laptop. But that's it. No need for any extra gear and I have a phone anyway so I didn't buy the phone for Koala sampler. I also use Maschine and have had multiple MPCs. Just the convenience of Koala is unbeatable.
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But koala isn’t a daw. The MPC is. This comparison don’t really make much sense.
Here’s my view on it. Koala on your phone, beat maker 3 iPad, laptop daw of choice. I have a Maschine and a sp404, but honestly I could do everything without them. Save your dough or blow it. Just make music by any means possible and enjoy the process.
GOLD! Next MPC vs BM3?
TRY BEAT MAKER 3 vs MPC I HEARD THATS A GOOD COMPARISON
Ipad ipad iPad?! Why use an ipad when you just have to get a midi controler ?from 50 to a 100.bucks
just use your smartphone or an Android tablet. Or just run it on your PC with Android. There are options to'use what you already own and spend less money as possible. Excuse my English i'm french. Peace y'all ✌🏽
I use both of them all the time
Android Samsung tablet A9 plus is great
Independent headphone out. Plus type c connection.and a zoom H5 field recorder, nano kontrol 2 daw
Control
I love the last thing you said about not pushing your belief system. 🎉 koala on an iphone or andriod can get stems anytime. Stem separation is good, and you can export quick and nicely. Bring what you did during your day to the mpc… more tools. All winners…
The cost argument only holds so much weight.
Who doesn’t already have a smart phone now?
Your have to have one anyway.
It’s not an extra expense.
An Mpc is.
The analogy was of course mpc one and iPad, but Koala 🐨 will run on an old iPhone SE that your grandma passed down to your little brother.
that beat tho woooo! lets go!
Keys Wallet Phone 👀 You guard them with yo LIFE.
So... yeah. You could risk carrying an MPC with you. Ya gotta pack it good. Store is, etc...
But ya, phone is NEVER LEAVING YA SIDE. So... having a capable and intuitive sampler app is an excellent idea. Imo.
LMAO 😂😂😂 keep getting jiggy mayne... It's all good. Yeah I'm popping up as usual when there is SmplTrek update. Hoping to get your take on the update once you had a chance to play with it a bit. I might have to get Koala sampler for my iPad and mess around with it. Nice comparison and contrast video.
MPC Pad Loop function
Main page
Track 01>Transpose set to 1.
Program 001>Warp samples>
Global tab>note on.
Samples tab>pad loop on.
Including different drum loops in the same mute group to alternate back and forth.
The mpc sounds much better then koalo but its still a cool little app
I have MPC and KOALA....KOALA has internal sounds now,,, you should do a new video on that.
Madlib useing ipad …. You dont need fancy gear :)
Most people have an iPad or iPhone or android tablet
Triggering Koala with MPC is dope for time stretching
dude, where have you been? lol
@@AveMcree man working…. Wife and kids (career)…Pausing on music because it’s just not fun at the time for me… the time I thought about getting into YT shit just full of drama… bro I gotta keep my blood pressure down… not getting on here for more drama in my life… just trying to figure out if making music makes me happy still…. Gotta get back to that, fun!
Iv learned so much from you Ave. People are gonna hate. Only a few uneducated people hate. Its not even close to the 99% of people who appreciate you, and respect you. Thank you for the great video. Im gonna stick with mpc. But it doesnt matter in the end what u use. As long as you love it. Thats forreal what matters.
6:23 ahhh. I was looking for note repeat in koala 🐨. Thnx 👍
Those are Boys II Men chops. I remember that album from high school...
Koala plus a $35 Android phone, and bam you are making beats at the bust stop in no time
Have you made a beatmaker3 vs MPC shoot out…Ima make some popcorn for that ish
Beatmaker 3 is a step up from Koala sampler is like a mpc on Ipad.
With better effects handling and better pitchstretch
Use koala sampler as an iaa in garage band for drums . Use GarageBand for your instruments and for auv3s . After you rearrange your beat export it , open up koala import audio , turn up the volume export current sample 🤯🤯🤯super high quality sound that makes me mad because I love my mpc up an iPad can almost stomp it
They are both programs one is a standalone device the other is on an ipad phone etc its really not that deep, i prefer koala over mpc workflow
At the end of the day it doesn't matter watch you create on when the end result is measured by someone else's ears. No one listen to music outside of from the production community and have matter to them what someone made it on. The listen could care less about everything other than how it sounds and make them feel. The whole argument is simply invalid for either. Cost wise it's a no brainer. Check out some of those Koala battle videos and you'd think half of it was made on your favorite gear when it was actually made with Koala...
true
sequencer mode is literally a looper
Did you just say Akai invented the piano roll? Cause I think at least 5 other companies/people have that claim and they all came before the first MPC. Just sayin'!
good vid and i thought koala had Ableton link and bass
16:00 they run good sales. Got one coming up around the corner.
I ask him about adding an Au3 feature to Koala…When he did the mixer update… I kinda got the feeling that he wasn’t interested at all in that option ….But i do love koala even with out it…. It would be great though…
Sick beat!!
I agree w you so much ave that koala should have key detection
lol and I'll be over there forever
iPad costs 300 dollars a good ond
Koala has a great interface; I love how simple it is with the whole drag-and-drop workflow.
I like to start a beat in Koala and then bring it inside Logic as a plugin.
The MPC is just a wonderful piece of gear, a future classic, if you will.
How are you bringing it inside Logic? Dreaming of that... :)
@@brookemaxwell2276 I use Logic and Koala on the iPad
What makes koala so much more friendly to the beginner looking into MPC like production is that lots of people already have an iPhone or android phone, for 5 bucks you can start producing straight from your pocket. Having an iPad really just provides a more dedicated device for the software. I think koala as an app is enough in the pocket to make someone know if they really are interested in producing and not break the bank.
No es lo que vale el koala sino el iPad para que funcione.
Been hearing some mf get funky on that koala
Might hook up my mpc to my koala app now 👍🙏
Can’t really compare the 2, Koala is more like a SPXoX a Linear Phrase Sample Player not a Music Production Console, it’s a sketch pad not a studio Center piece.
The inspiration behind Koala is Roland’s SP series not Aksi’s MPC range.
It’s a great gate way into music production for people who don’t wish to fork out big bucks for a hardware unit. It’ll run a a $100 or less phone/tablet. This is an unfair competition in my opinion.
look guys if you a hardcore mpc fan go for it, if not just get this app plus some peripherals like an apd or some other midi shit and this lil mf software puts in WORK. i use that or ableton, miss me with that inconvenient mpc software!
I mean...shit works yo. I got it on my phone and shit is knocking with the mixer add-on..
The capabilities of Koala within the iOS ecosystem are off the grid when compared to the MPC line. Give Ave legit one month diving into Koala + AUM and he ain’t looking back.
Aum koala Tb ReelBus Korg Gadget Cubasis Beatmaker 3 LumaFusion I mean come on.
I thought the piano roll was invented by one of those software tracker types from the 80s no?
Iv never use koala but it looks similar to the android bandlab sampler that was actually really good easy to use and sample direct or use sample packs i made a few banging tracks on it so im gonna have to give koala a bash
I like using Maschine After trying these new MPCs of today Maschine is Straight to the point On to the next Beat The New MPCs Keygroup and Navigating is too much for modern day production 🫡
At the end of the day, I can makes beats and still watch porn on my ipad. 😅 Win, win
How does it compare to the mpc ipad software back in tha day?
i have my phone on me. everywhere. case closed
But if you make original beats and sample a keyboard instrument when you go up and down octaves the koala sampler sounds weird and even cut off the length of the notes .
@@boomboombaby9140 it will never replace a full DAW. But having a sampler in your pocket is incredible
I was about to watch the video but I can’t look at red samplers without having PTSD anymore!
Appreciate your work - haters gon hate
Is all the same shit!! Is up to us on what sounds we put on pads and how we lay it down on the grid.
Bro, ask them to start automation and they won’t have any prices!
I am better on guitar and bass than keys because Ive put more time on guitars. Youre better on mpc as evidenced by the "please don't go" sampled beat you flipped awesomely on there. Given time, you'd be just as sick on Koala. For someone like myself who never made beats on an mpc, this simulates the experience well enough
In a word, Nope, it doesn’t matter. At…All.
Look up the preset for the ep-133 put it in 🐨
Great vid always get honesty.👏🏻👏🏻 on a side one have a look at the amp freqq how it uses Akai midi controller with an overlay.
Bruh why you have horns on in your thumbnail pic don't allow yourself to be sucked in to this demon time BS cuz don't do it!! i do music as a hobby learn a lot from your channel it's not that serious to sell ya soul G.......
MPC gang is now THINKING that he sold his soul. I like that humor. 😛
Not sure why you’d compare koala to an MPC. If anything the comparison is more like Koala to an SP404. Lol
Great video, but I’m more focused on them headphones. Been trying to find them. #Jealous 😭😂
They were limited editions at zzounds
My samsung has 24 gigs of ram memory, both the ram and the chip are way more powerful than the akai, but the akai is really also a sequencer so in a way they don't completely compare in that the akai is not just a sampler but a sequencer for other hardware.
If you're poor like me, the koala can do everything needed especially on a powerful device.
I really like koala for messing around. Stupid cheap. I wish it would record internally from youtube though. I am upset w my brand new mpc one plus. Has crashed countless times doing basic stuff. I think the issue could be latest mpc firmware. I can't image mpc being so successful if it crashes everytime you use it.
My mpc live 2 never crashed on me .
@@boomboombaby9140 Issues were fixed after that comment. In fact, I picked up a Key 61 after liking the Mpc environment. My son now has the One Plus. He loves it.
That beat is straight up fire..
Definitely inspired ✅🫡
Great video
That beat is dope, I hope you finish it.