Track mutes is huge! Now all I need to make my 2.0 tracks smooth in 3.0 is to fix the issue where I have multiple tracks of the same drums/chops and only three first ones load in correctly with sounds. Don't want to commit to 3.0 until I can use my existing 2.0 beats smooth
I'm not sold on 3.0 yet. I already have my linear arranger in MPC 2 with a 999 bar sequence and 8 audio tracks. Not impressed. Recording track mutes and chaining in song mode is the MPC way. Linear arranging is the PC way. Why break a classic workflow that made so many hits, to create a workflow thats available on any laptop? Creating a DAW like environment might seem like a good move to get beat makers to buy an MPC, it's actually a bad business move because energy takes the path of least resistance, which is the DAW already on their laptops. The MPC needs to also be its own thing, not just a midi controller on a mobile DAW. AKAI: Please at least make a CLASSIC MODE switch for the old MPC WAY. If we now cant load the beats we've made for the last few decades in 3.0, but could in version 2.15, I'd say its a bad thing.
Because having separate programs & tracks made zero sense and was incredibly confusing and Akai is doing the right thing here by pushing people to up their music writing game. We can do better than merely writing 4-12 tracks / programs in a single sequence and simply muting different tracks for each sequence. It is lazy and unfortunately, become the normal operation for any kind of electronic music, be it rap, EDM, Trap, etc. Sure, maybe we dont merely mute tracks, maybe we make small tweaks, but we are not writing unique sequences, we are merely copy and pasting 90% of the song. As to not being able to load beats from prior versions, this is not true, it works just fine with a few caveats and workarounds to adjust for the new direction the MPC is going. First off, the newest line of MPCs (MPC One, MPC Live, MPC X and their later iterations) are not compatible with prior MPC projects. Decades? No. You havent been able to load an MPC 4000 (or earlier) project on a modern MPC. Second, you CAN load projects from 2.15 in 3.0 just fine, with one caveat, you must be mindful of the fact that tracks and programs are merged, so in those situations, where for example, you might be using a VST instrument twice, or, where you have a duplicate track that you were using the same audio sample for, you will need to bounce the track to an audio track. An overwhelming majority of users will have almost no issues with 2.15 tracks on 3.0 firmware, I have hundreds of tracks I wrote in linear form and using the "MPC way" as you call it, and only had two tracks that required about 20 minutes of tweaking to get them functioning just fine on v3 firmware. Like it or not, this is the direction MPC is moving, new plugins, features, VST's etc will require you and other users to update, as the Akai platform evolves, you will eventually update. Beta 2 brings the firmware very close to 2.15, and in alot of ways, does it better than 2.15. They will further improve and enhance stem separation, probably in the next update, and provide event-based track muting, which is the only two complaints I have heard with the current beta (and the bizarre way Splice is integrated now). We don't need a "classic" way, it already exists and works just fine, aside from event based track mutes, and I have no doubt that will happen next update. The MPC needs to be a MIDI controller on a mobile DAW if they want people to use it how it is intended; the centerpiece of music production. I NEED the ability to edit notation in a piano roll and to route audio to different sends, and that is exactly what a DAW is. Take that out of the MPC and it loses its appeal, everyone goes back to using a computer... I really dont understand people asking for less features and functionality, sometimes, I have to wonder whether people are thinking about the devices they are using. If I didnt want a DAW, I could just buy a Poly or Roland sequencer, but the Akai and Maschine+ platforms sold me precisely on this because they are standalone platforms that allow me to write without a PC.
I'm really impressed with how good the Stem separation is now, when it first dropped I thought it was awful .. but shout out to Akai for the improvement
I see the track mutes supposedly back, but it still doesn’t work like the track mute in 2.0, you can’t do track mutes in real time on MPC 3.0!!! That’s what I’m waiting for 😊if not I’ll just have to downgrade it back to 2.0 I go 😅
I wish they would add more than 8 audio tracks per sequence working with audio has a lot more advantages I believe than midi. Just 24 or 32 Audio tracks per sequence would be great. 👍🏽
Hey Ave - that AUTO chopping to the grid feature reminds me of Recycle (there's a throw back for ya). I think this updates ganna be dope as hell! CAN'T WAIT for the official. I am going to put it on my MPC One to see how I jive with it before the Key 16 - I just love my 61 too much to subject it to beta ware lol, you feel me? Anyway I hope you are doing fantastic my friend great video as usual!! Take care!
Still kind of missing the old track mute version. There mutes used to mute midi, now it mutes the audio track. That changes things for send channels, and cuts off tails/reverbs. Still loving the update regardless, glad the patches are seriously rolling out too.
I got my MPC X in 2020. All the updates and the added instruments, plugins since I first got the machine is crazy!! Especially 3.0 beta. Akai is on they're game!!!
Am I the only one having a problem with the plugins not loading up on start up? I have to go manually activate them every time I turn my mpc x on… 😩😩😩😩😩 and what’s up with the disc streaming? I’m using 3.0
I'd love to see AKAI improve the timestretch engine in standalone before the official 3 release. If they can do it for stem seperation then it should be possible
I'm torn between installing the beta and waiting for the official stable update. Then again, I'm not a frequent MPC user to begin with (but am kind of hoping to get more into it after the update, as I'm interested to feel out the new workflow and see if I vibe with it more).
I just downloaded the update file to a sd card I have the Live2 so getting the newer beta releases after is ota , and it’s pretty quick to update or downgrade if you wanted to check it out . Personally not feeling it but it seems like a lot of other people are
@@BobbyBeam mine did the same thing. I held down the power button with it unplugged from the wall and computer to hard reset and this seems to have solved it or at least hasn't happened again since. Hope that helps 🤙
I have heavy bugs, I cannot save projects, regardless if on SSD, internal or SD Card. Also still like on the first version the MPC hangs itself up while booting up and the only way to reboot is to put out the power cable.
3:24 Being off beat don’t matter, yeah Being off beat don’t matter I’m with the chit, and with the chatter When I swing I don’t miss, like ayy batter-batter… 😂 Wack raps but that beat is fire
This is great news. I feel like we need another setting on Track Mutes which allows us to set the Mute style to Audio or Midi. Audio Mute would cut off immediately, and Midi Mute style would allow the audio to trail/fade out with whatever tail is present on that track. What do you think?
If they improved the mpc stems im down wit it i think imma grab it and put it in my new mpc plus it looks like their listenin to the feed back from the producer community dey might wind up getting the mpc 3 firmware together where all the orginal day ones can still enjoy the original work flow with their newest features so dats cool we a see look like they got track mute back i still need da see about song mode and programs😊
@@Digiphex Personally, Serato’s algorithm is still better than this. It’s definitely better now than it was before but imo it’s still lacking that nice separation without a lot of artifacting.
0:01 Bruh, what type of question is that? 😅 Tony! Toni! Toné! - with the song Southern Cali of course. Btw Raphael is working with D'Angelo on a new album. It’s going to be massive.
🫡👍🏾🫡 thanks akai for fixing the air expander plugin missing its all good in the new mpc 3.0 beta 2 update .i just checked didn't have to do anything extra. It automatically showed up in the plugin list 👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
you can change it....... go to track edit (program edit in 2.15 and lower), go to sample tab (bottom of the screen), and then turn on warp.......... lol
@@AveMcree , Thanks for the response, I know about the program edit warp . It's weird you think that they would have a way to change the bpm in "the sample editor" or at least move the time stretch to the main page . Hopefully in the final 3.0 version they will rearrange the sample editor .
That’s my favorite group TTT it Never Rains. Quick question, I been a little hesitant to upgrade to 3.0, you probably spoke on this before, but is it better than 2.0?
I would say it's better in certain ways as of now, they have added track mutes with the new update That's what I've been waiting for and also not having to add a program to each track now is cool .I'm still on 2.15.1 still deciding on updating myself
Somebody please help me😂😂😂why every time you record an audio track on 3.0 and record a second one behind it and it erase the other while recording 😢😢this program is getting dumber to me had mic over 12 yrs and can’t get adjusted to this😅
@@AveMcree that's always been possible before 3.0 and on every other MPC model. This is a new constraint. Many producers create not only variations but completely new beats within the same project. Rearranging the order of tracks and deleting them never used to affect other sequences, they were all independent.
@AveMcree Since u are connected: could u talk to them about the msg/lsg issue? Since the new versions of mpc's, starting with the X, the newer equipment is off from older equipment. 0-127 vs. 1-128. Example: a motif es rack with a newer mpc will be off by 1 if u program the newer mpc. All my mpc4k files are off by 1 voice when I load it in mpcX using the rack(or any other older equipment) with the X!!
Is it still possible to have lets say drums on track 1 to 4 .Then add a bass to track 9 instead of going automatically to track 5 ?Asking as someone who likes to play with trackmutes in a live setting.
No. Tracks no longer exist until added would need to add midi tracks as holding places I suppose and swap them later. Currently the tracks exist but just marked as unused
@@AveMcree Because I would automate mutes within a sequence. Tefty Music Tech explains the issue better than I can so I suggest you watch his MPC 3 videos.
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I wish the stem separation had like vocal, harmony and drum mix percentages that you could mess with
Tony! Toni! Tone!
And theeey telllll meeeeeee
Track mutes is huge! Now all I need to make my 2.0 tracks smooth in 3.0 is to fix the issue where I have multiple tracks of the same drums/chops and only three first ones load in correctly with sounds. Don't want to commit to 3.0 until I can use my existing 2.0 beats smooth
Toni! Toni! Toni!
“It never rains in Southern California”
That’s was pretty easy actually lol
🫡
I'm not sold on 3.0 yet. I already have my linear arranger in MPC 2 with a 999 bar sequence and 8 audio tracks. Not impressed.
Recording track mutes and chaining in song mode is the MPC way.
Linear arranging is the PC way.
Why break a classic workflow that made so many hits, to create a workflow thats available on any laptop?
Creating a DAW like environment might seem like a good move to get beat makers to buy an MPC, it's actually a bad business move because energy takes the path of least resistance, which is the DAW already on their laptops.
The MPC needs to also be its own thing, not just a midi controller on a mobile DAW.
AKAI: Please at least make a CLASSIC MODE switch for the old MPC WAY.
If we now cant load the beats we've made for the last few decades in 3.0, but could in version 2.15, I'd say its a bad thing.
Because having separate programs & tracks made zero sense and was incredibly confusing and Akai is doing the right thing here by pushing people to up their music writing game. We can do better than merely writing 4-12 tracks / programs in a single sequence and simply muting different tracks for each sequence. It is lazy and unfortunately, become the normal operation for any kind of electronic music, be it rap, EDM, Trap, etc. Sure, maybe we dont merely mute tracks, maybe we make small tweaks, but we are not writing unique sequences, we are merely copy and pasting 90% of the song.
As to not being able to load beats from prior versions, this is not true, it works just fine with a few caveats and workarounds to adjust for the new direction the MPC is going. First off, the newest line of MPCs (MPC One, MPC Live, MPC X and their later iterations) are not compatible with prior MPC projects. Decades? No. You havent been able to load an MPC 4000 (or earlier) project on a modern MPC. Second, you CAN load projects from 2.15 in 3.0 just fine, with one caveat, you must be mindful of the fact that tracks and programs are merged, so in those situations, where for example, you might be using a VST instrument twice, or, where you have a duplicate track that you were using the same audio sample for, you will need to bounce the track to an audio track. An overwhelming majority of users will have almost no issues with 2.15 tracks on 3.0 firmware, I have hundreds of tracks I wrote in linear form and using the "MPC way" as you call it, and only had two tracks that required about 20 minutes of tweaking to get them functioning just fine on v3 firmware.
Like it or not, this is the direction MPC is moving, new plugins, features, VST's etc will require you and other users to update, as the Akai platform evolves, you will eventually update. Beta 2 brings the firmware very close to 2.15, and in alot of ways, does it better than 2.15. They will further improve and enhance stem separation, probably in the next update, and provide event-based track muting, which is the only two complaints I have heard with the current beta (and the bizarre way Splice is integrated now).
We don't need a "classic" way, it already exists and works just fine, aside from event based track mutes, and I have no doubt that will happen next update. The MPC needs to be a MIDI controller on a mobile DAW if they want people to use it how it is intended; the centerpiece of music production. I NEED the ability to edit notation in a piano roll and to route audio to different sends, and that is exactly what a DAW is. Take that out of the MPC and it loses its appeal, everyone goes back to using a computer... I really dont understand people asking for less features and functionality, sometimes, I have to wonder whether people are thinking about the devices they are using. If I didnt want a DAW, I could just buy a Poly or Roland sequencer, but the Akai and Maschine+ platforms sold me precisely on this because they are standalone platforms that allow me to write without a PC.
Waiting for beta desktop. 😔
Bro for desktop there's nothing 3.0 can do that you can't right now.
@@Reggi_Sample I like the new look, and the last beta 2 Includes new improvements.
Amen 🙏🏿 brother break
@@Reggi_Samplenot 100% true.
@@Reggi_Sample3rd party vsts and plugins overall is pretty much everything
I'm really impressed with how good the Stem separation is now, when it first dropped I thought it was awful .. but shout out to Akai for the improvement
I find that chop to audio track feature the most interesting. Track mutes are a no brainer.
They need to add time signatures back when you add bars to a sequence
I really hope Behringer makes a clone of the GOAT BeatThang. Might end all the wars around the world
I see the track mutes supposedly back, but it still doesn’t work like the track mute in 2.0, you can’t do track mutes in real time on MPC 3.0!!! That’s what I’m waiting for 😊if not I’ll just have to downgrade it back to 2.0 I go 😅
so you did watch the video?
@@AveMcree tell him
I wish they would add more than 8 audio tracks per sequence working with audio has a lot more advantages I believe than midi. Just 24 or 32 Audio tracks per sequence would be great. 👍🏽
Hey Ave - that AUTO chopping to the grid feature reminds me of Recycle (there's a throw back for ya). I think this updates ganna be dope as hell! CAN'T WAIT for the official. I am going to put it on my MPC One to see how I jive with it before the Key 16 - I just love my 61 too much to subject it to beta ware lol, you feel me? Anyway I hope you are doing fantastic my friend great video as usual!! Take care!
Reminds me of fruity loops back in the day
@@AveMcree it’s called FL studio hello😂😊😅
Still kind of missing the old track mute version. There mutes used to mute midi, now it mutes the audio track.
That changes things for send channels, and cuts off tails/reverbs.
Still loving the update regardless, glad the patches are seriously rolling out too.
I got my MPC X in 2020. All the updates and the added instruments, plugins since I first got the machine is crazy!! Especially 3.0 beta. Akai is on they're game!!!
No groove is safe from jacking with this
Am I the only one having a problem with the plugins not loading up on start up? I have to go manually activate them every time I turn my mpc x on… 😩😩😩😩😩 and what’s up with the disc streaming? I’m using 3.0
i just got the Key 37 a couple months ago after being on FL Studio for 11 years or so. i'm slowly learning how to use it thanks to guys like you
I'd love to see AKAI improve the timestretch engine in standalone before the official 3 release. If they can do it for stem seperation then it should be possible
The compressor tip is 🔥🔥
I love it!
when is it available formy windows
never rains in southern california (Tony Toni Tone) is the sample
I still ain’t touched 3.0 smh 🤦🏾♂️
I'm torn between installing the beta and waiting for the official stable update. Then again, I'm not a frequent MPC user to begin with (but am kind of hoping to get more into it after the update, as I'm interested to feel out the new workflow and see if I vibe with it more).
I just downloaded the update file to a sd card I have the Live2 so getting the newer beta releases after is ota , and it’s pretty quick to update or downgrade if you wanted to check it out . Personally not feeling it but it seems like a lot of other people are
My MPC live 2 froze on boot up for the first time, while 3.0 beta was installed, so I downgraded. I'm going to wait until it's no longer in beta.
@@BobbyBeam mine did the same thing. I held down the power button with it unplugged from the wall and computer to hard reset and this seems to have solved it or at least hasn't happened again since. Hope that helps 🤙
Don't blame you. It was a headache to make the change. I'm new to all this but making progress with the 3.0 beta
This beat HARD
I have heavy bugs, I cannot save projects, regardless if on SSD, internal or SD Card. Also still like on the first version the MPC hangs itself up while booting up and the only way to reboot is to put out the power cable.
I'm having the same issue... I'll report it
CAN IT CONVERT AUDIO TO MIDI ?
Heavy track Ave
Top right pad Ave…. Continuous loop, no need to hold the pad down…. Thanks for the video 🫡
Thanks for the tip!
Can’t decide if I should get the key 61 or the live 2 😭. What are yall thoughts ?
Live 2 for portability
They need to BRING BACK PROGRAMS!
why?
3:24
Being off beat don’t matter, yeah
Being off beat don’t matter
I’m with the chit, and with the chatter
When I swing I don’t miss, like ayy batter-batter… 😂
Wack raps but that beat is fire
This is great news. I feel like we need another setting on Track Mutes which allows us to set the Mute style to Audio or Midi. Audio Mute would cut off immediately, and Midi Mute style would allow the audio to trail/fade out with whatever tail is present on that track.
What do you think?
If they improved the mpc stems im down wit it i think imma grab it and put it in my new mpc plus it looks like their listenin to the feed back from the producer community dey might wind up getting the mpc 3 firmware together where all the orginal day ones can still enjoy the original work flow with their newest features so dats cool we a see look like they got track mute back i still need da see about song mode and programs😊
Work fam
How does the separation compare to Serato’s algorithm?
@@Digiphex Personally, Serato’s algorithm is still better than this. It’s definitely better now than it was before but imo it’s still lacking that nice separation without a lot of artifacting.
0:01 Bruh, what type of question is that? 😅 Tony! Toni! Toné! - with the song Southern Cali of course. Btw Raphael is working with D'Angelo on a new album. It’s going to be massive.
I literally finished Installing the Update and this drops 😂
The sample is Al Green Lets Stay Together...
Spot on, bro
Peace @@AveMcree 😂😂😂
🫡👍🏾🫡 thanks akai for fixing the air expander plugin missing its all good in the new mpc 3.0 beta 2 update .i just checked didn't have to do anything extra. It automatically showed up in the plugin list 👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
hhmmmm, I'm really at the point of trying it now. Thanks for showing this one off Ave.
11:18 I thought you were sampling the simpsons
Just gave us some sauce-whew that bass line
We need desktop version no body work whit Mpc seriously in stand alone...its like drive Drive
Ferrari like Volkswagen...
interesting take
BEST PART OF THE INTERNET WEEK.
Why can't you change the bpm in the sample editor page . They should put the bpm detect on the main sample editor page and make the bpm adjustable.
you can change it....... go to track edit (program edit in 2.15 and lower), go to sample tab (bottom of the screen), and then turn on warp.......... lol
@@AveMcree , Thanks for the response, I know about the program edit warp . It's weird you think that they would have a way to change the bpm in "the sample editor" or at least move the time stretch to the main page . Hopefully in the final 3.0 version they will rearrange the sample editor .
The cowbell arp tho! 🔥
Toni tony tone has done it again
That’s my favorite group TTT it Never Rains.
Quick question, I been a little hesitant to upgrade to 3.0, you probably spoke on this before, but is it better than 2.0?
I would say it's better in certain ways as of now, they have added track mutes with the new update
That's what I've been waiting for and also not having to add a program to each track now is cool .I'm still on 2.15.1 still deciding on updating myself
🔥🔥🔥
No place for lazy minds ❤
Somebody please help me😂😂😂why every time you record an audio track on 3.0 and record a second one behind it and it erase the other while recording 😢😢this program is getting dumber to me had mic over 12 yrs and can’t get adjusted to this😅
Thank you so much for this video, Ave, you're a G!
Happy to help!
I wish a new seq was empty. No tracks from prev seq's. Because if you delete track 4 from seq 2, both seq's lose that track
that make 0 sense to the workflow.... not even fruity loops works like that...................................
@@AveMcree that's always been possible before 3.0 and on every other MPC model. This is a new constraint. Many producers create not only variations but completely new beats within the same project. Rearranging the order of tracks and deleting them never used to affect other sequences, they were all independent.
I need new music to mixing and mastering. Where are music artists???
Not here.
Is instant track mute fixed yet in 3.0?
So you didn’t watch the video
@AveMcree Since u are connected: could u talk to them about the msg/lsg issue? Since the new versions of mpc's, starting with the X, the newer equipment is off from older equipment. 0-127 vs. 1-128. Example: a motif es rack with a newer mpc will be off by 1 if u program the newer mpc. All my mpc4k files are off by 1 voice when I load it in mpcX using the rack(or any other older equipment) with the X!!
You could program the cc In keyboard controls
Trust I been talked to them bout that
Copywrite like a mug lol...
Dope Ave. I'm having trouble getting the beta, I registered my mpc one and all, I downloaded the beta and kept hearing a ocean wave with a whistle 😂😂😂
Preferences>activation>login to your account >then activate the beta
@AveMcree bet, good looking out fam
Is this only with mpc 3
Yes
Is it still possible to have lets say drums on track 1 to 4 .Then add a bass to track 9 instead of going automatically to track 5 ?Asking as someone who likes to play with trackmutes in a live setting.
No. Tracks no longer exist until added would need to add midi tracks as holding places I suppose and swap them later.
Currently the tracks exist but just marked as unused
@@elusivemite guess ill wait for now then. Thx
YOOO!!
Track Mutes Arranger Mode ?
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As a person who never used this this must be what it feels like for a first time FL studio user😅😅🫨
Ok ave
Have anyone tried to play 2.15 beats with the 3. now? I can't get to my mpc for another few hrs!
You can, but is weird AF. If you have more than one sequence and choose to load them in 3.0 it makes a whole mess of things.
Track Mute in MPC 3 still cuts off the audio though and not the event, meaning you still lose any tail on the sound that you mute.
I think in the word track mute means that it would mute the track. So why would you want any run over audio?
That’s kind of the point of track mutes….
In the old os there was a setting for “instant track mutes” I don’t know if it’s still there but if it is then that’s what you wanna turn off
@@AveMcree Because I would automate mutes within a sequence. Tefty Music Tech explains the issue better than I can so I suggest you watch his MPC 3 videos.
@AveMcree they want those 1 second mutes ave.. they don't want to go to the grid and delete the note with their finger😂😂😂
That sample is from Lucky Daye
Wrong