It took us awhile to put this engine video together, I think we started the video in maybe early March and just finished getting the engine running last Wednesday. But I have to say I had fun getting this engine running and was really surprised at how well it ran and didn't smoke. Pat who owns the engine doesn't have the rest of the mower and I figured that the engine probably came off a Super Colt from Canada. Seeing how Canada is a British commonwealth and close to the U.S. I suggested to Pat that we put it on a mini bike. What do you think Grassrats? Mini bike?
Hell yeah brother!! Ide say try to run it as a repower on a old bike I see the problem now elkskins is drinking all the WD40 edit: is that the device prior to carburators called a MIXER?
Taryl........I've said this before, but it is worth mentioning again. You have proven yourself over and over again to be an EXCELLENT teacher. I've been into small engine work for over 30 years and yet you still prove this old dog can learn a few new tricks every now and then. I appreciate what your doing and say 'THANK YOU SIR!'
I’m so sooo glad he kept his clothes on and put it over the top. At one time every seaside town in the U.K. would have droves of Stag parties of guys dressed in only these
We used to make go karts and mini bikes with those engines back in the 70's and 80's, in Australia they were very common prizes from the local tip and sidewalk trash collection days. The benefits were having a horizontal crank with a clutch, some had a manual cone clutch others had centrifugal, and the drive chains were bicycle pitch making final drive easy. they are great little engines that would take all sorts of abuse. We'd also hot them up by max porting the block, shave the head (with sandpaper) and put a straight pipe on the exhaust. I still have a few buried in the shed, and have another on a 1960's concrete mixer that still runs regularly. Mini bike is a must.. Cheers from Tasmania...
It's good to see Elkskins get into the fun of things. Glad to see Blademan and Throttle back on the case as well. Keep having fun guys. You deserve more credit than you get.
That was muh thinkin' too Three centimetres max across the pond, as WWII pops would say 'if you farkin limey's don't want to fight, get the hell outta the way.'
I'm glad someone's finally giving the WD-40 tribe some long-overdue guff. It's amazing how many people have successfully used it as a lubricant instead of a "water displacer". They'd be out of business if displacing water was its only job. Recently I learned on Franlab that WD-40 was actually designed to keep condensation ice from sticking to cold rocket bodies on liftoff. But as we all know, it works great for many other things as well.
Nice to see you working on a proper engine, The iron foundry engine as I've always known it, Fitted to suffolk punch & colt cylinder mowers ( as we like stripey lawns over here) and is still found in many garden sheds all over the United Kingdom to this day
Nice work ol' chap. Its a "tickler" old boy, used on everything from a Vincent's , BSA's and Triumph motorcycles as well as lawn cutters. Jolly good show " Gwaff ". Ta Tah
Haven't had a comedic surprise that made me laugh that hard in YEARS!!! Like not since Bad Grandpa with Johnny Knoxville. AWESOME Video; We not only got more Junior and The Scammer, but we are introduced to The Human Shop Rag! Thank you so much, that really made my week! God bless gang!
Just discovered Taryl's channel. My dad and gramps both were lawnmower men, I have photos of me back in the day at five years old leaning over a lawnmower with a wrench in my hand. Back in this era you probably bought (if it wasn't from Sears catalog) and had your lawn equipment serviced at the local Feed Store, which in my area it then ended up at my residential garage for repair, sharpening blades and anything that required an edge.
Just think of the world chaos that might result if the human Shoprag, the Choker and other villains of small engines and the people that help them were to win against the dynamic dual of Blademan and Throttle! The world might cease its ability to support life as we know it, with grass overgrowing and shortly overtaken with evasive jungle! The western Amazon basin is has evidence and reports from Spanish or Portuguese explores from hundreds of years ago of supporting a large agricultural society with soil grown from charcoal treatment to support crops. Now look at it! Nothing, but overgrown jungle where human civilization use to flourish. The reason for the disappearance isn't due to small engine destruction, but is thought to possibly be from smallpox from the European explores that boated through the region. Whatever the reason the result could be the same! The world's people need Blademan and Throttle!
Many reel mowers like the one you mentioned was for putting greens. The shearing of the reels cut better than blade type and the grass catcher made it clean. The rollers were to keep the putting green smooth. Now there is your breakfast.
these suffolk mowers were really commonplace in the 60's and 70's in England. Ive had 2 suffolk super-punches' (thats a shire ploughing horse breed) and a super colt. They were pretty expensive as well
I Know the feeling when an old engine is brought back to life, after how many years, who knows? I have had this same feeling as Taryl and this Suffolk engine. The engine that I was blessed with, was headed to the scrap pile, sitting alongside the curb in my town. It was made in Germany circa 1936, a 2hp, 2 cycle petrol. Research was that it was on a German military generator and was a very interesting piece of equipment. I have the engine only, no generator, but it was complete with the captive crank starter, carburetor, fuel tank, air cleaner etc. It had no spark as the magneto was bad. I hooked up a coil and battery and I have a neat running engine that I take with me to antique engine and tractor shows in my state of Michigan.
Well done ! The 'tickler' (primer) is pushed down until fuel dribbles out the hole in the side of the carb. Fuel overflow in the beginning was prob float sticking until it freed up with fuel. The Suffolk was the mower that started the lawn mowing craze in England in 1955. It was the lightest mower you could get at the time. Everybody had a Suffolk. EVERYBODY. Still have mine. Lots still around. Saw another today. Most exciting episode you made. Thanks for sharing.
Great history lesson with top shelf cartoon as an added bonus!!! We all look forward to Sunday to see what the Dactyl movie moguls have in store for us!! I love learning about small engine history and having class taught by the Doctor of small engines - Dr. Taryl Dactyl.
This was the first engine I ever worked on. There are two sizes, but not sure of the sizes. Think they used to power the emergency generator in the Sherman tank. The pushy thing is the tickler. Mixture screw is 3/4 out on pilot 1 1/2 on main standard.
There ya go -- "tickler," or that's what they're called over there. Also on Amal carbs on old Triumph motorcycles. I think we yanks call them primers since they save us from having to pour gas down the throat of the carb to "prime" it on initial crank up. Good info, Simon.
Just got my Taryl stickers. Haven’t been that happy opening an envelope for years ! Thanks so much for sharing so much. Hope to order more ! They were better than ever expected !!! Thanks so much guys !! 🤘🏼🇺🇸🤘🏼
Well that's interesting. I bought one of these about 8-9 years ago in South Australia, that exact engine on a Suffolk Colt or Super Colt (that part of the decal was worn off...) - took an afternoon of cleaning, new oil and a tune up and it ran perfectly every time. Used it as a backyard mower for years and only sold it 3 years ago when we moved to a house with no lawn... Mine was complete and perfect, even the paintwork was original and very good condition, just a few transfers had rubbed off. It left a perfect finish to a lawn, just about like a snooker table. Love the Mankini!
😀😀😀 I enjoyed watching you work on engines I still use everyday in England - and working out it was left handed thread on flywheel. Suffolk made cylinder mowers in Stowmarket Suffolk England . The punch and colt , the colt being the smaller of the two . I was unaware that they were exported though you could correct that some may have gone to Canada - it is also possible that seeing as we were surrounded in the 1980s by American Airbases that one or two may have been packed up with house possessions and shipped . The suppressor was fitted because we all live close together so your lawn mower spark affected people's tv and radio .It was a good reliable basic small engine in its day and often found its way into go carts . The carbs are loads of fun 😀😀
When my kids were little there was a kid show they watched that had a character named D. W. Reed They used to call the spray ' 40 DW ' And, oh yes Taryl, it IS a lubricant. I had a damaged can and I dumped all the juice out into a cup and kept it on a shelf. As the solvents evaporated out more and more the ' 40 DW ' turned into an oily substance the consistency of about 30 wt. oil which made a GREAT LUBRICANT Sounds like something you might keep around in the Taryl Dactyl garage. Surprised you don't already have it. Remember it's ' 40 DW '
These engines are also fitted to old ATCO cylinder/reel mowers. Cylinder/reel mowers were and are still popular with some people in the UK because they like the stripe effect on a tennis court and the quintessential English bowls clubs. A lot of people in the UK have moved away from these mowers and now tend to buy a rotary mower with a rear roller fitted. Also these cylinder/reel mowers are also found in Australia and New Zealand and New Zealand have a company called Masport who make cylinder/reel mowers.
I read in an old Ford Tractor manual that the reason points have a specific gap is not because the gap itself matters... it's that the gap establishes the timing of the points breaking contact at just the right moment. That makes it sound as though... if I could recall how to do the trig, that the instant the point contacts are not touching would occur prior to the hi-point of the points cam. In essence the points gap is setting the timing of the spark. Anyone else heard that?
Yes...the little pushy springy thingy On float cover is a trickler....does exactly what you surmised. Pushes float down allowing gas to trickle into manifold for cold start. No choke plate....Bing carbs on R60/6 BMW used same system
Its a "tickler" ..it holds the float down until it runs over giving it a prime.The European dirt bikes had that set up with a tickler instead of a choke . I never had one but read about them in Dirt Bike magazine
Suffolk mowers, or to be correct Suffolk Iron Foundry got took over by Atco which later became Qualcast Atco. Qualcast were part of Robert Bosch GMBH but I think they sold the rights to the name to an Italian company now? Some of the later machines used a Tecumseh engine, I repaired one last week in fact! Back some years ago the Suffolk Punch and Colts were quite popular with lawnmower racers as the mower was self propelled (there is TH-cam footage I believe!)
That primer type thingy is the carb tickler. It pushes the float down to let liquid fuel flood into the throat of the carb to prime it. Many old motorcycles used the same system.
Blade Man and Throttle needs to do a movie. You gor to get you a Blade mobile first.Very entertaining. thank you for your videos, they are better than anything you see on cable.
Thank you TFA Crew. I know these videos are lots of work to make. And I love to watch. Ill be buying more apparel in the fall when I need a sweatshirt.
Going to admit I haven't watched your videos in a while. I've been working so much. I'm so glad I checked my innerscreen today. Made my day! Got both laughs and my interest in that engine. I love to tinker. I'd love to find something like that and do the same thing. But I don't have mick in my bank pocket when I need him... lol Great job and video brother. Loved it
@38.22 it a "tickler" as Honda calls them. It presses the float down against the fuel level to unseat the needle and overfill the bowl with gas thus increasing the pressure/richness of the mixture to start. My Honda 50cc Express had one.
Found the owners manual and warranty card for our Moto-Mower 24" Super Rider Model 26-302 manufactured by Dura Corporation Richmond, Indiana circa 1962. Quite a machine as I remember riding it, there was no throttle control, you fired it up and put it in gear and held on for dear life. It had this wagon type steering bar with the front wheels out front and it was quite tippity. Also have a 'What You Should Know Before You Mow' safety insert for safe mower use put out by the Lawn Mower Institute Washington DC with the picture of a hot chicky in a skirt mowing the grass. Isn't wonderful the innovative products America produces to make the housewife's life easier.
I was right, consulting the Clinton engine user manual included, engines were different on which particular moto-mower model you had, it says the speed control lever was an option. All it it had was manual level on the engine and engine stop was a plug shorting wire on the carbatrator. Dura Corporation was also the manufacturer of tractor mowers under the brand Detroit Harvester which made the most awesome mower ever the sickle mower.
Great English engine video @Taryl Fixes All and well done @Micks Mowers. I’m glad Mick sent you the “banana hammock” luckily I only got bubble wrap haha. P.S Please put that engine on a mini bike! 🙏🏼
This is quoted from the WD-40 website; Myth : WD-40® Multi-Use Product is not really a lubricant. Facts : While the “W-D” in WD-40® stands for Water Displacement, WD-40® Multi-Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants. The product’s formulation also contains anti-corrosion agents and ingredients for penetration, water displacement and soil removal.
I use deasil to flush sumps like that. You can start the engine and let them run a few minutes to clear all the Chit out. On new engine break ins I change the oil every 7 or 10 hours.
Originally, that was a Qualcast engine (Qualcast = Quality Castings). Quality Castings made all manner of cast iron products for all manner of other manufacturers. As a company in its own right, Qualcast go back to before the first world war. If I recall correctly, Qualcast were still casting engine blocks for Vauxhall - Bedford (part of GM) into the late 1970s at least. Earliest Colt lawnmowers were originally branded as Qualcast, and were well engineered, solid iron and steel construction. Quite when they morphed into"Suffolk" I couldn't say for sure, but among their range of mowers, were "Colt" "Punch" and "Super Punch". I don't remember the Super Colt. The mowers came in 14" and 18" cut, but all were powered by the exact same engine. If you can find one of the latest models, you would see that the engine, whilst still being branded as Suffolk, is almost literally a Briggs and Stratton clone. There may be more to that than meets the eye, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find more than a little bit of lawnmower incest going on between brands. As for rotary mowers, we've had them for decades, but there was always a pride ina job well done, and the pinnacle of that for Mr suburbanite house owner, was the classic "striped lawn' which was something that a rotary mower could not achieve. Ever seen the tennis from Wimbledon? Just look at the grass courts. They are the ultimate in striped lawns, along with Lords Cricket Grounds, and any self respecting football/rugby ground. It's just a British thing! Rotary mowers? Just look up"Douglas Hayter". Hayter only ever made rotary mowers, and they're still making them to this day.
@@JeffinTD Wires are often suppressed or spark plugs have resistors built into them. being as small engines rarely have radios attached to them they're probably not there for EMI reasons. It's more likely it's there to keep the points from burning up so badly. Resistance in the secondary would limit the back EMF the primary side would see.
I liked the tip on the Lawnboy rebuild about testing the crankcase for pressure. More correctly stated, the crankcase is part of the combustion process in a 2 cycle engine, not only must it hold pressure but also hold vacuum - there could be a situation where it holds pressure but leaks in vacuum. I built specialized plates to test both at 10psi on my saw. You can also test your cabatrator, push 10psi and drop it in a glass of water, if it bubble you got probs Also the billy surface grinder is good tip, little know if you get your surfaces super-flat you shouldn't need a gasket at all. I use a piece of float glass which is super-flat and some vintage cloth paper called Crocus Cloth, a very fine iron oxide abrasive, but its expensive.
If I'm not mistaken the 2 cycle fuel tank must hold pressure and vacuum as well. That's why I believe, on high revving machines they have those duckbill valves in the fuel tank to allow outside air pressure to overcome vacuum and allow increased venting at high revs. could be wrong idk
They say hat rotary mowers are making a comeback. Last week I saw a guy in my neighborhood pushing one. All the news has to do is declare an Eco Action Day and the eco-hippies are out the mowing carbon-neutered. I have vintage piece of mower shop equipment, a 1952 Modern Machine Co rotary mower sharpener. The mower is mounted on the front rail, with front to back adjustment, the grinder slides on rails and and has up/down adjustment, you slide the grinder and the rotary blades turn giving a professional sharpening job - you kick the mower handle down and position the cutting bar to sharpen that as well. have you seen those wonky lap compound rotary mower sharpening kits on the interscreen, I've been thinking of running the grinder off solar panels and a variable frequency drive -- offering the eco-hippies a true carbon-neutered sharpening for mere $50 lol
I meant to say reel mowers, and referring to my owners manual its the Modern Manufacturing Company out of Pasadena California. I also have a letter describing the shipping arraignments via Railway Express (I believe later bought out by UPS) to my local rail freight station which is also the county seat. Luckily I found this manual because I almost threw out this hunk of metal as scrap but changed my mind at the last second, turns out its a ice skate sharpening attachment for the Modern Lawn Mower Sharpener.
37:18 That vent is so the gas can rise. It's lets the air in as the gas level falls and lets the air out as gas level rises. Pretty much all carbs have these.
Very simple engines to work on very simple to troubleshoot I have that exact mower you showed, currently restoring it. The piston rings are leaking oil like crazy but it runs ! Might do the rings on it one day.
My one is off a Suffolk Demon. A different sort of reel mower. Slightly earlier. Brass spherical float. No recoil starter. Manually wind and ....pull. Only took a little CRC (New Zealand WD40) to get her running like a charm.
Just a quick tip about the wd-40, it is not only not a lubricant, but is actually mildly corrosive. If you use it to clean/lube parts, you would be well advised to clean it off as best as possible when the part is freed up and add some actual lubricant of your choice. Thanks again for the awesome video and sharing your knowledge!! 😅🤘
Where did you hear that WD-40 is corrosive? The stuff was literally made as a metal preservative. It was never designed to be a rust penetrant. It just happens to work somewhat as that too.
@@1pcfred maybe you should do a little more research before you speak up. It was NOT invented to preserve metal, while that was among the first uses of it, it was invented specifically to displace water. Hence the name WD - Water Displacement. And it is mildly corrosive to certain plastics and some other materials.
@@justanotherfreakinchannel9069 you're such a genius so you tell me what the pH level of WD-40 is. As my research was unable to find that figure. Maybe you can find out what the difference between a corrosive and a solvent is too while you're at it? Because WD-40 is most definitely a solvent. That's about all it is in fact.
Bit late to the party, but the Suffolk engine was indeed a close copy of the Briggs model 5S. So close that many parts are interchangeable. The Suffolk engine evolved over the years, most noticeably with a different fan shroud and pull starter. They were fitted with three different flywheels - early ones had an alloy flywheel, and there were two versions of a cast iron one. You got sent the magnets for the other type of cast iron flywheel. They don't make a lot of power, but then for a small reel mower they did not need to. The engine is rated at just over 1hp, although that seems a little conservative as I did have a rather old and smoky one hooked up to a 24V alternator, and from the output I was getting it was definitely making more than 1hp, They have quite a sedate life chugging along on a mower, and as long as you keep them serviced they will last forever.
Happy to help me old mucker
It took us awhile to put this engine video together, I think we started the video in maybe early March and just finished getting the engine running last Wednesday. But I have to say I had fun getting this engine running and was really surprised at how well it ran and didn't smoke. Pat who owns the engine doesn't have the rest of the mower and I figured that the engine probably came off a Super Colt from Canada. Seeing how Canada is a British commonwealth and close to the U.S. I suggested to Pat that we put it on a mini bike. What do you think Grassrats? Mini bike?
It revs pretty good , worth a try !
I think a minibike would be perfect for this engine!
I recommend putting it on a kick start washing machine.
Hell yeah brother!! Ide say try to run it as a repower on a old bike
I see the problem now elkskins is drinking all the WD40 edit: is that the device prior to carburators called a MIXER?
Sounds like a swell idear
Taryl........I've said this before, but it is worth mentioning again. You have proven yourself over and over again to be an EXCELLENT teacher. I've been into small engine work for over 30 years and yet you still prove this old dog can learn a few new tricks every now and then. I appreciate what your doing and say 'THANK YOU SIR!'
Had a rough day? Just watch these guys, you'll feel better !!!!!!!!!!!!
nice outfit,
Hey,You get Bass Fishing mister!!!
Lol The Banana Hammock 😆😆😆
isn't that the thing borat was sunbathing in?
I’m so sooo glad he kept his clothes on and put it over the top. At one time every seaside town in the U.K. would have droves of Stag parties of guys dressed in only these
I like that Elkskins guy......Where'd you buy him?
We used to make go karts and mini bikes with those engines back in the 70's and 80's, in Australia they were very common prizes from the local tip and
sidewalk trash collection days.
The benefits were having a horizontal crank with a clutch, some had a manual cone clutch others had centrifugal, and the drive chains were bicycle pitch making final drive easy.
they are great little engines that would take all sorts of abuse. We'd also hot them up by max porting the block, shave the head (with sandpaper) and put a straight pipe on the exhaust.
I still have a few buried in the shed, and have another on a 1960's concrete mixer that still runs regularly.
Mini bike is a must..
Cheers from Tasmania...
It's good to see Elkskins get into the fun of things. Glad to see Blademan and Throttle back on the case as well. Keep having fun guys. You deserve more credit than you get.
That green plastic piece is for measuring the contents in the banana hammock.
That was muh thinkin' too
Three centimetres max across the pond, as WWII pops would say 'if you farkin limey's don't want to fight, get the hell outta the way.'
I'm glad someone's finally giving the WD-40 tribe some long-overdue guff. It's amazing how many people have successfully used it as a lubricant instead of a "water displacer". They'd be out of business if displacing water was its only job. Recently I learned on Franlab that WD-40 was actually designed to keep condensation ice from sticking to cold rocket bodies on liftoff. But as we all know, it works great for many other things as well.
I know a lot of these videos are from years ago but they are so enjoyable and informative.
Nice to see you working on a proper engine, The iron foundry engine as I've always known it, Fitted to suffolk punch & colt cylinder mowers ( as we like stripey lawns over here) and is still found in many garden sheds all over the United Kingdom to this day
Rating plates on some of the older ones literally say "Suffolk Iron Foundry" instead of "Suffolk Lawn Mowers."
Nice work ol' chap. Its a "tickler" old boy, used on everything from a Vincent's , BSA's and Triumph motorcycles as well as lawn cutters. Jolly good show " Gwaff ". Ta Tah
Haven't had a comedic surprise that made me laugh that hard in YEARS!!! Like not since Bad Grandpa with Johnny Knoxville.
AWESOME Video; We not only got more Junior and The Scammer, but we are introduced to The Human Shop Rag!
Thank you so much, that really made my week!
God bless gang!
Just discovered Taryl's channel. My dad and gramps both were lawnmower men, I have photos of me back in the day at five years old leaning over a lawnmower with a wrench in my hand.
Back in this era you probably bought (if it wasn't from Sears catalog) and had your lawn equipment serviced at the local Feed Store, which in my area it then ended up at my residential garage for repair, sharpening blades and anything that required an edge.
"The Human Shoprag" villain is brilliant! Hilarious skit!
Just think of the world chaos that might result if the human Shoprag, the Choker and other villains of small engines and the people that help them were to win against the dynamic dual of Blademan and Throttle! The world might cease its ability to support life as we know it, with grass overgrowing and shortly overtaken with evasive jungle! The western Amazon basin is has evidence and reports from Spanish or Portuguese explores from hundreds of years ago of supporting a large agricultural society with soil grown from charcoal treatment to support crops. Now look at it! Nothing, but overgrown jungle where human civilization use to flourish. The reason for the disappearance isn't due to small engine destruction, but is thought to possibly be from smallpox from the European explores that boated through the region. Whatever the reason the result could be the same! The world's people need Blademan and Throttle!
The human shoprag. Tooo funny. That Suffolk starts easier than any engine I seen. Sweet little engine nice and smooth.
6:24 when you put that thing on I laughed so hard! Mick and you have a great sense of humor! Best to all. 🤣
I do try lol
Many reel mowers like the one you mentioned was for putting greens. The shearing of the reels cut better than blade type and the grass catcher made it clean. The rollers were to keep the putting green smooth. Now there is your breakfast.
Awesome as always Taryl.
these suffolk mowers were really commonplace in the 60's and 70's in England. Ive had 2 suffolk super-punches' (thats a shire ploughing horse breed) and a super colt. They were pretty expensive as well
I have had 3 or so.. now I have a Ransomes marquis
I Know the feeling when an old engine is brought back to life, after how many years, who knows? I have had this same feeling as Taryl and this Suffolk engine. The engine that I was blessed with, was headed to the scrap pile, sitting alongside the curb in my town. It was made in Germany circa 1936, a 2hp, 2 cycle petrol. Research was that it was on a German military generator and was a very interesting piece of equipment. I have the engine only, no generator, but it was complete with the captive crank starter, carburetor, fuel tank, air cleaner etc. It had no spark as the magneto was bad. I hooked up a coil and battery and I have a neat running engine that I take with me to antique engine and tractor shows in my state of Michigan.
Seems like a little engine with genuine history to it!
Well done ! The 'tickler' (primer) is pushed down until fuel dribbles out the hole in the side of the carb. Fuel overflow in the beginning was prob float sticking until it freed up with fuel.
The Suffolk was the mower that started the lawn mowing craze in England in 1955. It was the lightest mower you could get at the time. Everybody had a Suffolk. EVERYBODY. Still have mine. Lots still around. Saw another today. Most exciting episode you made. Thanks for sharing.
So finally after so many years, Elfskins the human shoprag, became a real reality. Excellent!
Nice repair Taryl! You look good in the lime green mankini ! 👍🇺🇸😜
Nothing better than a good taryl video
Great history lesson with top shelf cartoon as an added bonus!!! We all look forward to Sunday to see what the Dactyl movie moguls have in store for us!! I love learning about small engine history and having class taught by the Doctor of small engines - Dr. Taryl Dactyl.
This one was awesome guys! The skit was hilarious and the engine revival/repair really interesting and informative. Absolutely loved it!
Another fine Taryl Fixes All video !!! I can see a movie coming outta this !!!
Jolly good show old chap. Bloody decent job getting that mowing machine engine to work.
Great job Blade Man on defeating the shop rag. I love seeing the bloopers at the end this made my day. Thanks guys
Jolly good show old chap.
Rather..!
This was the first engine I ever worked on. There are two sizes, but not sure of the sizes. Think they used to power the emergency generator in the Sherman tank. The pushy thing is the tickler. Mixture screw is 3/4 out on pilot 1 1/2 on main standard.
There ya go -- "tickler," or that's what they're called over there. Also on Amal carbs on old Triumph motorcycles. I think we yanks call them primers since they save us from having to pour gas down the throat of the carb to "prime" it on initial crank up. Good info, Simon.
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Ha! Human shop rag. Glad you Got Elkskins In on this too.
I got 6 lawn tractors giving to me , I subscribed to you for your know how . these machines are over 20 years old . I'll be watching you.
I live these skits so much fun and hilarious moments.
Just got my Taryl stickers. Haven’t been that happy opening an envelope for years ! Thanks so much for sharing so much. Hope to order more ! They were better than ever expected !!! Thanks so much guys !! 🤘🏼🇺🇸🤘🏼
Well that's interesting. I bought one of these about 8-9 years ago in South Australia, that exact engine on a Suffolk Colt or Super Colt (that part of the decal was worn off...) - took an afternoon of cleaning, new oil and a tune up and it ran perfectly every time. Used it as a backyard mower for years and only sold it 3 years ago when we moved to a house with no lawn... Mine was complete and perfect, even the paintwork was original and very good condition, just a few transfers had rubbed off. It left a perfect finish to a lawn, just about like a snooker table. Love the Mankini!
🤣🤣What a great way to have our favorite human shop rag in the video!
Rag it up, rag it up, rag it up!!!
I watched James May reassemble a '67 Colt. No I get to watch you repair this one. Very very cool!
😀😀😀 I enjoyed watching you work on engines I still use everyday in England - and working out it was left handed thread on flywheel. Suffolk made cylinder mowers in Stowmarket Suffolk England . The punch and colt , the colt being the smaller of the two . I was unaware that they were exported though you could correct that some may have gone to Canada - it is also possible that seeing as we were surrounded in the 1980s by American Airbases that one or two may have been packed up with house possessions and shipped . The suppressor was fitted because we all live close together so your lawn mower spark affected people's tv and radio .It was a good reliable basic small engine in its day and often found its way into go carts . The carbs are loads of fun 😀😀
Having trouble keeping it running, maybe it needs a spot of TEA.
Nice little motor. Rag man. That's funny
When my kids were little there was a kid show they watched that had a character named D. W. Reed
They used to call the spray ' 40 DW '
And, oh yes Taryl, it IS a lubricant.
I had a damaged can and I dumped all the juice out into a cup and kept it on a shelf. As the solvents evaporated out more and more the ' 40 DW ' turned into an oily substance the consistency of about 30 wt. oil which made a GREAT
LUBRICANT
Sounds like something you might keep around in the Taryl Dactyl garage.
Surprised you don't already have it.
Remember it's ' 40 DW '
I’m glad you guys have the time to make these
Ye olde Suffolk! Love em. Great vid all👏👍
😂 lol, that Elkskins is hilarious 🤪
These engines are also fitted to old ATCO cylinder/reel mowers.
Cylinder/reel mowers were and are still popular with some people in the UK because they like the stripe effect on a tennis court and the quintessential English bowls clubs. A lot of people in the UK have moved away from these mowers and now tend to buy a rotary mower with a rear roller fitted. Also these cylinder/reel mowers are also found in Australia and New Zealand and New Zealand have a company called Masport who make cylinder/reel mowers.
Yo yo
@@themowerman hey up there.
I read in an old Ford Tractor manual that the reason points have a specific gap is not because the gap itself matters... it's that the gap establishes the timing of the points breaking contact at just the right moment. That makes it sound as though... if I could recall how to do the trig, that the instant the point contacts are not touching would occur prior to the hi-point of the points cam. In essence the points gap is setting the timing of the spark.
Anyone else heard that?
I can't wait to see Elkskins cry like a baby when he accepts his Emmy.
Yes...the little pushy springy thingy
On float cover is a trickler....does exactly what you surmised. Pushes float down allowing gas to trickle into manifold for cold start.
No choke plate....Bing carbs on R60/6 BMW used same system
the human shop rag...that guy dont seem like he would hurt anything! lol.. fire it up fire it up fire it up!!!!
Its a "tickler" ..it holds the float down until it runs over giving it a prime.The European dirt bikes had that set up with a tickler instead of a choke . I never had one but read about them in Dirt Bike magazine
Your correct
That kind of sounds like an enrichener instead of a choke that Harley-Davidson used on some of their carbureted engines back in the 90s.
@@bodeine454 yes jeff
Suffolk mowers, or to be correct Suffolk Iron Foundry got took over by Atco which later became Qualcast Atco. Qualcast were part of Robert Bosch GMBH but I think they sold the rights to the name to an Italian company now?
Some of the later machines used a Tecumseh engine, I repaired one last week in fact!
Back some years ago the Suffolk Punch and Colts were quite popular with lawnmower racers as the mower was self propelled (there is TH-cam footage I believe!)
That primer type thingy is the carb tickler. It pushes the float down to let liquid fuel flood into the throat of the carb to prime it. Many old motorcycles used the same system.
You never disappoint! Great Vid!
The suppressor was likely to prevent AM radio interference when all the guys were out mowing their lawns. My old VWs had them or the radio would buzz.
It's always great to see one running nicely when you get done with it
Blade Man and Throttle needs to do a movie. You gor to get you a Blade mobile first.Very entertaining. thank you for your videos, they are better than anything you see on cable.
That was a good one… the Suffolk engine runs great! Nice job Taryl and Mick. Also Elkskins is a natural actor, we need more episodes with him! 👍
No worries.. happy to help
I love you mate. When you come to England, you can fix my mower. 👍
Thank you TFA Crew. I know these videos are lots of work to make. And I love to watch. Ill be buying more apparel in the fall when I need a sweatshirt.
Excellent job..... Way to go Mick.
Wasn't sure I was going to watch this through to the end right after you put that banana hammock on but I powered through it.
Going to admit I haven't watched your videos in a while. I've been working so much. I'm so glad I checked my innerscreen today. Made my day! Got both laughs and my interest in that engine. I love to tinker. I'd love to find something like that and do the same thing. But I don't have mick in my bank pocket when I need him... lol Great job and video brother. Loved it
Better then to be in his banana hammock lol
@38.22 it a "tickler" as Honda calls them. It presses the float down against the fuel level to unseat the needle and overfill the bowl with gas thus increasing the pressure/richness of the mixture to start. My Honda 50cc Express had one.
You guys are out there . But you are good. I like the videos .
Great video! I love it that you guys were able to make Elk Skins, aka the "Human Shop Rag" a villian character !!
Found the owners manual and warranty card for our Moto-Mower 24" Super Rider Model 26-302 manufactured by Dura Corporation Richmond, Indiana circa 1962.
Quite a machine as I remember riding it, there was no throttle control, you fired it up and put it in gear and held on for dear life. It had this wagon type steering bar with the front wheels out front and it was quite tippity. Also have a 'What You Should Know Before You Mow' safety insert for safe mower use put out by the Lawn Mower Institute Washington DC with the picture of a hot chicky in a skirt mowing the grass.
Isn't wonderful the innovative products America produces to make the housewife's life easier.
I was right, consulting the Clinton engine user manual included, engines were different on which particular moto-mower model you had, it says the speed control lever was an option. All it it had was manual level on the engine and engine stop was a plug shorting wire on the carbatrator.
Dura Corporation was also the manufacturer of tractor mowers under the brand Detroit Harvester which made the most awesome mower ever the sickle mower.
Silly Yank, one must extend the pinky finger whilst starting a Suffolk.
and first have a spot of tea !!
with a crumpet.
Jolly good governor, pip pip and all that rot. Teryl is one good old chap, but that rag man is one crazy bloke.
Lol
Another excellent how-2! Thanks guys.
"Hello, I'm here to stop you!" in that threatening (not) voice. Hysterical.
Now that is a well engineered engine 🤙🏻
Great English engine video @Taryl Fixes All and well done @Micks Mowers. I’m glad Mick sent you the “banana hammock” luckily I only got bubble wrap haha.
P.S Please put that engine on a mini bike! 🙏🏼
I have a spare one in red .. lol
@@themowerman i bet you do
Awesome. I love seeing this. The feeling when that thing fired up.
Yeah they have a unique sound too
@@themowerman Is that the cooling fan that makes that whining sound? I love that sound it's so unique.
@@greglewis3382 yeah
"I am The Human Shop Rag." Priceless.
This is quoted from the WD-40 website;
Myth : WD-40® Multi-Use Product is not really a lubricant.
Facts : While the “W-D” in WD-40® stands for Water Displacement, WD-40® Multi-Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants. The product’s formulation also contains anti-corrosion agents and ingredients for penetration, water displacement and soil removal.
I use deasil to flush sumps like that. You can start the engine and let them run a few minutes to clear all the Chit out. On new engine break ins I change the oil every 7 or 10 hours.
Originally, that was a Qualcast engine (Qualcast = Quality Castings). Quality Castings made all manner of cast iron products for all manner of other manufacturers. As a company in its own right, Qualcast go back to before the first world war. If I recall correctly, Qualcast were still casting engine blocks for Vauxhall - Bedford (part of GM) into the late 1970s at least.
Earliest Colt lawnmowers were originally branded as Qualcast, and were well engineered, solid iron and steel construction. Quite when they morphed into"Suffolk" I couldn't say for sure, but among their range of mowers, were "Colt" "Punch" and "Super Punch". I don't remember the Super Colt. The mowers came in 14" and 18" cut, but all were powered by the exact same engine.
If you can find one of the latest models, you would see that the engine, whilst still being branded as Suffolk, is almost literally a Briggs and Stratton clone. There may be more to that than meets the eye, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find more than a little bit of lawnmower incest going on between brands.
As for rotary mowers, we've had them for decades, but there was always a pride ina job well done, and the pinnacle of that for Mr suburbanite house owner, was the classic "striped lawn' which was something that a rotary mower could not achieve. Ever seen the tennis from Wimbledon? Just look at the grass courts. They are the ultimate in striped lawns, along with Lords Cricket Grounds, and any self respecting football/rugby ground. It's just a British thing!
Rotary mowers? Just look up"Douglas Hayter". Hayter only ever made rotary mowers, and they're still making them to this day.
The "suppressor" is probably used to help with RFI
(Radio Frequency Interference).
I presume just a resistor? DLE and other spark ignition RC engines use one.
@@JeffinTD Wires are often suppressed or spark plugs have resistors built into them. being as small engines rarely have radios attached to them they're probably not there for EMI reasons. It's more likely it's there to keep the points from burning up so badly. Resistance in the secondary would limit the back EMF the primary side would see.
Hey taryl great video my friend and the outakes at the end were hilarious God bless everyone at the shop
I was really hoping to see what a roller lawnmower was…love you Taryl, your awesome
Yo yo
Who knew that English petrol engines could run on dinosaur juice? I learn new things from Taryl all the time!
28:57 Thank you Mick! 😀
The button on the top of the carb is a tickler that sinks the float and allows raw fuel to help the engine start.
I liked the tip on the Lawnboy rebuild about testing the crankcase for pressure.
More correctly stated, the crankcase is part of the combustion process in a 2 cycle engine, not only must it hold pressure but also hold vacuum - there could be a situation where it holds pressure but leaks in vacuum. I built specialized plates to test both at 10psi on my saw. You can also test your cabatrator, push 10psi and drop it in a glass of water, if it bubble you got probs
Also the billy surface grinder is good tip, little know if you get your surfaces super-flat you shouldn't need a gasket at all.
I use a piece of float glass which is super-flat and some vintage cloth paper called Crocus Cloth, a very fine iron oxide abrasive, but its expensive.
If I'm not mistaken the 2 cycle fuel tank must hold pressure and vacuum as well.
That's why I believe, on high revving machines they have those duckbill valves in the fuel tank to allow outside air pressure to overcome vacuum and allow increased venting at high revs. could be wrong idk
They say hat rotary mowers are making a comeback.
Last week I saw a guy in my neighborhood pushing one.
All the news has to do is declare an Eco Action Day and the eco-hippies are out the mowing carbon-neutered.
I have vintage piece of mower shop equipment, a 1952 Modern Machine Co rotary mower sharpener.
The mower is mounted on the front rail, with front to back adjustment, the grinder slides on rails and and has up/down adjustment, you slide the grinder and the rotary blades turn giving a professional sharpening job - you kick the mower handle down and position the cutting bar to sharpen that as well.
have you seen those wonky lap compound rotary mower sharpening kits on the interscreen, I've been thinking of running the grinder off solar panels and a variable frequency drive -- offering the eco-hippies a true carbon-neutered sharpening for mere $50 lol
I meant to say reel mowers, and referring to my owners manual its the Modern Manufacturing Company out of Pasadena California.
I also have a letter describing the shipping arraignments via Railway Express (I believe later bought out by UPS) to my local rail freight station which is also the county seat.
Luckily I found this manual because I almost threw out this hunk of metal as scrap but changed my mind at the last second, turns out its a ice skate sharpening attachment for the Modern Lawn Mower Sharpener.
The electric grinder motor was an option ... I don't see how they would have powered this otherwise, a hit and miss engine I suppose
Excellent video Taryl :) also awesome fix up to wild motor I never heard before too and all worked out well!
37:18 That vent is so the gas can rise. It's lets the air in as the gas level falls and lets the air out as gas level rises. Pretty much all carbs have these.
Blimey, even more old stuff! EDIT, kinda shocked how little it vibrated... Compare that to modern engines. Well done chaps!
That is a rare find Tayrl that would be perfect for a mini bike
I love the skits guys!! Keep up the great work! I’m glad you put the bloopers in at the end now !
Very simple engines to work on very simple to troubleshoot I have that exact mower you showed, currently restoring it. The piston rings are leaking oil like crazy but it runs ! Might do the rings on it one day.
My one is off a Suffolk Demon. A different sort of reel mower. Slightly earlier. Brass spherical float. No recoil starter. Manually wind and ....pull. Only took a little CRC (New Zealand WD40) to get her running like a charm.
Just a quick tip about the wd-40, it is not only not a lubricant, but is actually mildly corrosive. If you use it to clean/lube parts, you would be well advised to clean it off as best as possible when the part is freed up and add some actual lubricant of your choice. Thanks again for the awesome video and sharing your knowledge!! 😅🤘
Where did you hear that WD-40 is corrosive? The stuff was literally made as a metal preservative. It was never designed to be a rust penetrant. It just happens to work somewhat as that too.
@@1pcfred maybe you should do a little more research before you speak up. It was NOT invented to preserve metal, while that was among the first uses of it, it was invented specifically to displace water. Hence the name WD - Water Displacement. And it is mildly corrosive to certain plastics and some other materials.
@@justanotherfreakinchannel9069 you're such a genius so you tell me what the pH level of WD-40 is. As my research was unable to find that figure. Maybe you can find out what the difference between a corrosive and a solvent is too while you're at it? Because WD-40 is most definitely a solvent. That's about all it is in fact.
Loved the Suffolk. Where did you find petrol by the liter?
Those Suffix mowers are wonkey
Lol
Bit late to the party, but the Suffolk engine was indeed a close copy of the Briggs model 5S. So close that many parts are interchangeable. The Suffolk engine evolved over the years, most noticeably with a different fan shroud and pull starter. They were fitted with three different flywheels - early ones had an alloy flywheel, and there were two versions of a cast iron one. You got sent the magnets for the other type of cast iron flywheel. They don't make a lot of power, but then for a small reel mower they did not need to. The engine is rated at just over 1hp, although that seems a little conservative as I did have a rather old and smoky one hooked up to a 24V alternator, and from the output I was getting it was definitely making more than 1hp, They have quite a sedate life chugging along on a mower, and as long as you keep them serviced they will last forever.
I’m laughing so hard buddy Banana hammock love the blade man and throttle series good stuff thanks for sharing buddy god bless
Lol
Good Chit from you Sir. As usual.
That was a good one
Jolly good fun!
that little cover has a tab that you use to set the points.