Awesome English Suffolk Engine - Will It Run?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In "Blademan & Throttle Meet The Human Shop Rag", Taryl receives this English-made Suffolk Super Colt engine from a friend and tries to get it running. It's English so we don't really have any parts for it, anything we need will have to be sent to us from across the big pond. But good thing Taryl has friends in high places (Mick from Mick's Mowers) to help on the quest to get this thing running. Will it run??
Prior to and after the fix, Podunk superheroes Blademan & Throttle are sent on a wild goose chase before having $cammer's latest "The Human Shop Rag" attack them. Can they defeat this half man half shop rag and save Podunk from obliteration?! Check it out here for the full story... and as always... There's Your Dinner!!
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That green plastic piece is for measuring the contents in the banana hammock.
That was muh thinkin' too
Three centimetres max across the pond, as WWII pops would say 'if you farkin limey's don't want to fight, get the hell outta the way.'
Taryl........I've said this before, but it is worth mentioning again. You have proven yourself over and over again to be an EXCELLENT teacher. I've been into small engine work for over 30 years and yet you still prove this old dog can learn a few new tricks every now and then. I appreciate what your doing and say 'THANK YOU SIR!'
Had a rough day? Just watch these guys, you'll feel better !!!!!!!!!!!!
nice outfit,
Hey,You get Bass Fishing mister!!!
Lol The Banana Hammock 😆😆😆
isn't that the thing borat was sunbathing in?
I’m so sooo glad he kept his clothes on and put it over the top. At one time every seaside town in the U.K. would have droves of Stag parties of guys dressed in only these
I like that Elkskins guy......Where'd you buy him?
Nice to see you working on a proper engine, The iron foundry engine as I've always known it, Fitted to suffolk punch & colt cylinder mowers ( as we like stripey lawns over here) and is still found in many garden sheds all over the United Kingdom to this day
Rating plates on some of the older ones literally say "Suffolk Iron Foundry" instead of "Suffolk Lawn Mowers."
these suffolk mowers were really commonplace in the 60's and 70's in England. Ive had 2 suffolk super-punches' (thats a shire ploughing horse breed) and a super colt. They were pretty expensive as well
I have had 3 or so.. now I have a Ransomes marquis
It took us awhile to put this engine video together, I think we started the video in maybe early March and just finished getting the engine running last Wednesday. But I have to say I had fun getting this engine running and was really surprised at how well it ran and didn't smoke. Pat who owns the engine doesn't have the rest of the mower and I figured that the engine probably came off a Super Colt from Canada. Seeing how Canada is a British commonwealth and close to the U.S. I suggested to Pat that we put it on a mini bike. What do you think Grassrats? Mini bike?
It revs pretty good , worth a try !
I think a minibike would be perfect for this engine!
I recommend putting it on a kick start washing machine.
Hell yeah brother!! Ide say try to run it as a repower on a old bike
I see the problem now elkskins is drinking all the WD40 edit: is that the device prior to carburators called a MIXER?
Sounds like a swell idear
6:24 when you put that thing on I laughed so hard! Mick and you have a great sense of humor! Best to all. 🤣
I do try lol
This was the first engine I ever worked on. There are two sizes, but not sure of the sizes. Think they used to power the emergency generator in the Sherman tank. The pushy thing is the tickler. Mixture screw is 3/4 out on pilot 1 1/2 on main standard.
There ya go -- "tickler," or that's what they're called over there. Also on Amal carbs on old Triumph motorcycles. I think we yanks call them primers since they save us from having to pour gas down the throat of the carb to "prime" it on initial crank up. Good info, Simon.
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"The Human Shoprag" villain is brilliant! Hilarious skit!
Just think of the world chaos that might result if the human Shoprag, the Choker and other villains of small engines and the people that help them were to win against the dynamic dual of Blademan and Throttle! The world might cease its ability to support life as we know it, with grass overgrowing and shortly overtaken with evasive jungle! The western Amazon basin is has evidence and reports from Spanish or Portuguese explores from hundreds of years ago of supporting a large agricultural society with soil grown from charcoal treatment to support crops. Now look at it! Nothing, but overgrown jungle where human civilization use to flourish. The reason for the disappearance isn't due to small engine destruction, but is thought to possibly be from smallpox from the European explores that boated through the region. Whatever the reason the result could be the same! The world's people need Blademan and Throttle!
"Hello, I'm here to stop you!" in that threatening (not) voice. Hysterical.
I Know the feeling when an old engine is brought back to life, after how many years, who knows? I have had this same feeling as Taryl and this Suffolk engine. The engine that I was blessed with, was headed to the scrap pile, sitting alongside the curb in my town. It was made in Germany circa 1936, a 2hp, 2 cycle petrol. Research was that it was on a German military generator and was a very interesting piece of equipment. I have the engine only, no generator, but it was complete with the captive crank starter, carburetor, fuel tank, air cleaner etc. It had no spark as the magneto was bad. I hooked up a coil and battery and I have a neat running engine that I take with me to antique engine and tractor shows in my state of Michigan.
Seems like a little engine with genuine history to it!
Silly Yank, one must extend the pinky finger whilst starting a Suffolk.
and first have a spot of tea !!
with a crumpet.
Jolly good governor, pip pip and all that rot. Teryl is one good old chap, but that rag man is one crazy bloke.
Lol
Many reel mowers like the one you mentioned was for putting greens. The shearing of the reels cut better than blade type and the grass catcher made it clean. The rollers were to keep the putting green smooth. Now there is your breakfast.
Nice work ol' chap. Its a "tickler" old boy, used on everything from a Vincent's , BSA's and Triumph motorcycles as well as lawn cutters. Jolly good show " Gwaff ". Ta Tah
I live these skits so much fun and hilarious moments.
Well done ! The 'tickler' (primer) is pushed down until fuel dribbles out the hole in the side of the carb. Fuel overflow in the beginning was prob float sticking until it freed up with fuel.
The Suffolk was the mower that started the lawn mowing craze in England in 1955. It was the lightest mower you could get at the time. Everybody had a Suffolk. EVERYBODY. Still have mine. Lots still around. Saw another today. Most exciting episode you made. Thanks for sharing.
Who knew that English petrol engines could run on dinosaur juice? I learn new things from Taryl all the time!
It's always great to see one running nicely when you get done with it
"I am The Human Shop Rag." Priceless.
Jolly good show old chap.
Rather..!
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The "suppressor" is probably used to help with RFI
(Radio Frequency Interference).
I presume just a resistor? DLE and other spark ignition RC engines use one.
@@JeffinTD Wires are often suppressed or spark plugs have resistors built into them. being as small engines rarely have radios attached to them they're probably not there for EMI reasons. It's more likely it's there to keep the points from burning up so badly. Resistance in the secondary would limit the back EMF the primary side would see.
When my kids were little there was a kid show they watched that had a character named D. W. Reed
They used to call the spray ' 40 DW '
And, oh yes Taryl, it IS a lubricant.
I had a damaged can and I dumped all the juice out into a cup and kept it on a shelf. As the solvents evaporated out more and more the ' 40 DW ' turned into an oily substance the consistency of about 30 wt. oil which made a GREAT
LUBRICANT
Sounds like something you might keep around in the Taryl Dactyl garage.
Surprised you don't already have it.
Remember it's ' 40 DW '
Nothing better than a good taryl video
These engines are also fitted to old ATCO cylinder/reel mowers.
Cylinder/reel mowers were and are still popular with some people in the UK because they like the stripe effect on a tennis court and the quintessential English bowls clubs. A lot of people in the UK have moved away from these mowers and now tend to buy a rotary mower with a rear roller fitted. Also these cylinder/reel mowers are also found in Australia and New Zealand and New Zealand have a company called Masport who make cylinder/reel mowers.
Yo yo
@@themowerman hey up there.
😂 lol, that Elkskins is hilarious 🤪
The suppressor was likely to prevent AM radio interference when all the guys were out mowing their lawns. My old VWs had them or the radio would buzz.
Thank you TFA Crew. I know these videos are lots of work to make. And I love to watch. Ill be buying more apparel in the fall when I need a sweatshirt.
Jolly good show old chap. Bloody decent job getting that mowing machine engine to work.
Those Suffix mowers are wonkey
Lol
Blade Man and Throttle needs to do a movie. You gor to get you a Blade mobile first.Very entertaining. thank you for your videos, they are better than anything you see on cable.
the human shop rag...that guy dont seem like he would hurt anything! lol.. fire it up fire it up fire it up!!!!
The human shoprag did pretty good.
I believe that plunger is a “tickler” Tarly . Not French but English.
You are Correct there Pete.
It is a form of a primer, you don't pump it, you hold it down until fuel comes out and it trickles fuel in to the engine to prime it. They were used on early motorcycles also
It pushes the float down, which opens the needle/valve from the tank.
This causes the bowl to overflow, typically through the mixture needles into the intake manifold, but since that carb also has bowl overflow holes the overflowing gas might just leak on the ground. The overflow hole might be above the closed height of float, and raising the fuel level also makes it run richer, like a temporary choke (as the fuel level decreases before the needle opens again).
Yes, it is called a tickler just like on the Amal carbetraters fitted on the Triumph bikes
Yes Pete your correct
😀😀😀 I enjoyed watching you work on engines I still use everyday in England - and working out it was left handed thread on flywheel. Suffolk made cylinder mowers in Stowmarket Suffolk England . The punch and colt , the colt being the smaller of the two . I was unaware that they were exported though you could correct that some may have gone to Canada - it is also possible that seeing as we were surrounded in the 1980s by American Airbases that one or two may have been packed up with house possessions and shipped . The suppressor was fitted because we all live close together so your lawn mower spark affected people's tv and radio .It was a good reliable basic small engine in its day and often found its way into go carts . The carbs are loads of fun 😀😀
Having trouble keeping it running, maybe it needs a spot of TEA.
I love the skits guys!! Keep up the great work! I’m glad you put the bloopers in at the end now !
Great English engine video @Taryl Fixes All and well done @Micks Mowers. I’m glad Mick sent you the “banana hammock” luckily I only got bubble wrap haha.
P.S Please put that engine on a mini bike! 🙏🏼
I have a spare one in red .. lol
@@themowerman i bet you do
I use deasil to flush sumps like that. You can start the engine and let them run a few minutes to clear all the Chit out. On new engine break ins I change the oil every 7 or 10 hours.
That primer type thingy is the carb tickler. It pushes the float down to let liquid fuel flood into the throat of the carb to prime it. Many old motorcycles used the same system.
Yes...the little pushy springy thingy
On float cover is a trickler....does exactly what you surmised. Pushes float down allowing gas to trickle into manifold for cold start.
No choke plate....Bing carbs on R60/6 BMW used same system
You never disappoint! Great Vid!
That is a rare find Tayrl that would be perfect for a mini bike
"Yes sir mr bond" LOL
This is quoted from the WD-40 website;
Myth : WD-40® Multi-Use Product is not really a lubricant.
Facts : While the “W-D” in WD-40® stands for Water Displacement, WD-40® Multi-Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants. The product’s formulation also contains anti-corrosion agents and ingredients for penetration, water displacement and soil removal.
@38.22 it a "tickler" as Honda calls them. It presses the float down against the fuel level to unseat the needle and overfill the bowl with gas thus increasing the pressure/richness of the mixture to start. My Honda 50cc Express had one.
Originally, that was a Qualcast engine (Qualcast = Quality Castings). Quality Castings made all manner of cast iron products for all manner of other manufacturers. As a company in its own right, Qualcast go back to before the first world war. If I recall correctly, Qualcast were still casting engine blocks for Vauxhall - Bedford (part of GM) into the late 1970s at least.
Earliest Colt lawnmowers were originally branded as Qualcast, and were well engineered, solid iron and steel construction. Quite when they morphed into"Suffolk" I couldn't say for sure, but among their range of mowers, were "Colt" "Punch" and "Super Punch". I don't remember the Super Colt. The mowers came in 14" and 18" cut, but all were powered by the exact same engine.
If you can find one of the latest models, you would see that the engine, whilst still being branded as Suffolk, is almost literally a Briggs and Stratton clone. There may be more to that than meets the eye, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find more than a little bit of lawnmower incest going on between brands.
As for rotary mowers, we've had them for decades, but there was always a pride ina job well done, and the pinnacle of that for Mr suburbanite house owner, was the classic "striped lawn' which was something that a rotary mower could not achieve. Ever seen the tennis from Wimbledon? Just look at the grass courts. They are the ultimate in striped lawns, along with Lords Cricket Grounds, and any self respecting football/rugby ground. It's just a British thing!
Rotary mowers? Just look up"Douglas Hayter". Hayter only ever made rotary mowers, and they're still making them to this day.
The button on the top of the carb is a tickler that sinks the float and allows raw fuel to help the engine start.
in Flint MI they would call that premium drinking water.
Listening to him i got confused and thought Briggs & Stratton was actually called Briggs & Scraton lol
Now that is a well engineered engine 🤙🏻
Wasn't sure I was going to watch this through to the end right after you put that banana hammock on but I powered through it.
Awesome video as usual Taryl!!
Hey taryl great video my friend and the outakes at the end were hilarious God bless everyone at the shop
Excellent video Taryl :) also awesome fix up to wild motor I never heard before too and all worked out well!
Another excellent how-2! Thanks guys.
Awesome. I love seeing this. The feeling when that thing fired up.
Yeah they have a unique sound too
@@themowerman Is that the cooling fan that makes that whining sound? I love that sound it's so unique.
@@greglewis3382 yeah
I love you mate. When you come to England, you can fix my mower. 👍
Blimey, even more old stuff! EDIT, kinda shocked how little it vibrated... Compare that to modern engines. Well done chaps!
Great job Blademan defeating the evil Human Shop rag.
I liked the tip on the Lawnboy rebuild about testing the crankcase for pressure.
More correctly stated, the crankcase is part of the combustion process in a 2 cycle engine, not only must it hold pressure but also hold vacuum - there could be a situation where it holds pressure but leaks in vacuum. I built specialized plates to test both at 10psi on my saw. You can also test your cabatrator, push 10psi and drop it in a glass of water, if it bubble you got probs
Also the billy surface grinder is good tip, little know if you get your surfaces super-flat you shouldn't need a gasket at all.
I use a piece of float glass which is super-flat and some vintage cloth paper called Crocus Cloth, a very fine iron oxide abrasive, but its expensive.
If I'm not mistaken the 2 cycle fuel tank must hold pressure and vacuum as well.
That's why I believe, on high revving machines they have those duckbill valves in the fuel tank to allow outside air pressure to overcome vacuum and allow increased venting at high revs. could be wrong idk
Whew, #90 gear grease and putrid egg salad sandwich. Hit Shop Rag with a blast from the water hose! That little thing on the carb is called the "tickler". Lots of old Brit bikes had them.
Elk Skins as a villain is bloody awesome!
Taryl is the man
I was really hoping to see what a roller lawnmower was…love you Taryl, your awesome
Yo yo
37:18 That vent is so the gas can rise. It's lets the air in as the gas level falls and lets the air out as gas level rises. Pretty much all carbs have these.
love the banana hammock lol
Wearing it right now. But without the pants. WOOOOOOOOO! liberating.
@@TarylFixesAll lol
@@TarylFixesAll OMG! That's a thought I will never be able to unsee.....thanks.
Am I the only one that would love to see them do and racing mower build!?!?!?
Old Zeneth electronics are VERY well made. They weren't kidding when they said the quality goes in before the name goes on. However, that stopped around 1980 when they closed down their American manufacturing plants. Everything with Zenith on it is made Hong Kong and other countries in Asia.
That manifold and probably the carb is pot metal, not aluminum.
It needs an “aerosol overhaul”. 😁
I’ve got 3 little Yanmar diesels I got for next to nothing, & since there’s no spark plug or Carburetor they’re great.
If they’ve got enough compression to run I’m golden. All there are is a fuel pump to fire the injector & that’s it.
I’m in the process of swapping one on a 82 JD212 in place of the old Kohler cuz I got tired of messing with it & just wanted something that’ll run/start almost every time & will start after months of sitting since it’s diesel.
They say hat rotary mowers are making a comeback.
Last week I saw a guy in my neighborhood pushing one.
All the news has to do is declare an Eco Action Day and the eco-hippies are out the mowing carbon-neutered.
I have vintage piece of mower shop equipment, a 1952 Modern Machine Co rotary mower sharpener.
The mower is mounted on the front rail, with front to back adjustment, the grinder slides on rails and and has up/down adjustment, you slide the grinder and the rotary blades turn giving a professional sharpening job - you kick the mower handle down and position the cutting bar to sharpen that as well.
have you seen those wonky lap compound rotary mower sharpening kits on the interscreen, I've been thinking of running the grinder off solar panels and a variable frequency drive -- offering the eco-hippies a true carbon-neutered sharpening for mere $50 lol
I meant to say reel mowers, and referring to my owners manual its the Modern Manufacturing Company out of Pasadena California.
I also have a letter describing the shipping arraignments via Railway Express (I believe later bought out by UPS) to my local rail freight station which is also the county seat.
Luckily I found this manual because I almost threw out this hunk of metal as scrap but changed my mind at the last second, turns out its a ice skate sharpening attachment for the Modern Lawn Mower Sharpener.
The electric grinder motor was an option ... I don't see how they would have powered this otherwise, a hit and miss engine I suppose
This channel is just epic I love the skits
I always thought Blademan was taller than that
I love all your work!
You see which way the fins are smashing against the wind, that is the way it turns, the bolt will tighten the opposite way of turning. If unsure of the fin direction see which way the starter turns it. Most bricks and scrapem turn the other way, not all though.
Just a quick tip about the wd-40, it is not only not a lubricant, but is actually mildly corrosive. If you use it to clean/lube parts, you would be well advised to clean it off as best as possible when the part is freed up and add some actual lubricant of your choice. Thanks again for the awesome video and sharing your knowledge!! 😅🤘
Where did you hear that WD-40 is corrosive? The stuff was literally made as a metal preservative. It was never designed to be a rust penetrant. It just happens to work somewhat as that too.
@@1pcfred maybe you should do a little more research before you speak up. It was NOT invented to preserve metal, while that was among the first uses of it, it was invented specifically to displace water. Hence the name WD - Water Displacement. And it is mildly corrosive to certain plastics and some other materials.
@@justanotherfreakinchannel9069 you're such a genius so you tell me what the pH level of WD-40 is. As my research was unable to find that figure. Maybe you can find out what the difference between a corrosive and a solvent is too while you're at it? Because WD-40 is most definitely a solvent. That's about all it is in fact.
Reel mowers were common in California in the 60s through the 80s. A lot of people here had bermuda grass which needs to be cut short with a reel mower. You still find people selling 40 to 50 plus year old McLane and Trimmer reel mowers on Craigslist and OfferUp. Many times with the original Briggs or Honda engine.
The blademobile is in the shop we have to take the bus...... To the bus stop, hahahahahaha
Your a heck of a mechanic and teacher your videos are funny and interesting, those sound effects are funny , Keep up the excellent work ,Sir
That manifold, at the time the mower was built, was made from 'Mazak' - a Zinc/Aluminium/Magnesium alloy.
Mazak (Zamak in the US?) ALWAYS rots, no matter the application it's used for . . .
Oh, and 'Larry' was probably an Australian Boxer - before official Rules came into use - in the 1890's, name of Larry Foley, who won a Pot of A$150,000, which was the biggest ever at that time . . .
I couldn't remember the name of that crummy alloy. I read about it years ago when I was in machine shop in high school, and the books said it was horrible to drill and tap. I've dealt with chainsaws that used it.
30-odd years ago I had an old Atlas lathe (based on the Myford) and all its change wheels were made from it. They were starting to get a bit iffy even then.
Elkskins!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Greens mowers were often rotary, you had weird bagging systems, and fairways were cut with gangs of reel mowers. In 1968.
Very simple engines to work on very simple to troubleshoot I have that exact mower you showed, currently restoring it. The piston rings are leaking oil like crazy but it runs ! Might do the rings on it one day.
Omg how CUTE!!! Elkskins!!!!
I am so happy to see you in another video.
What's your real name... "Elkskins"?
It has a unique whine to it.
THANK YOU ALL ! Top notch mate !
As always there's you tea and biscuits!
As they used to say "Better built 'cos it's British!" 🙂
Nice safety vest. 🤠🦺
that little spring loaded button u think is a primer is sort of one, on brit sport bikes, ones from my era had ticklers on the carbs, it holds the float down to let gas fill the float bowl.
That Engine seems a lot better than an Old Briggs and Straton ..
Good Chit from you Sir. As usual.
That green nut sling Taryl, is a mankini. Sure you already know this.
He did.....otherwise he wouldn't of guessed it. As a banana hamick de swingae.
Bloody Hell shes a runner........Mount that Suffolk on a minibike
Also that button on the carb if nobody mentioned it is called a tickler. Youd push it in so fuel trickled from the vent so youd know the bowl was full and to help prime the engine
Loved the Suffolk. Where did you find petrol by the liter?
That carb reminds me of the old Motobecane moped that was given to me back when I was 14. I did get it running and ran it a few years as a trail bike. How that bike made it to the US I have no idea. Was simple to work on though.
LOL @ how bad of an actor Elkskins is. :)
😂 So true!!
It's not that he's a bad actor, it's just that he can only play Elkskins... and nothing else.
Nice outfit costume to Taryl Lol!