LG V30 Real Audio Review: It's so good, let's rant! | Pocketnow
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- LG V30 Real Audio Review time! The V30 is SO good! How good is it? It's so good that it makes us angry that other companies are getting rid of the 3.5mm headphone jack. Let's dig into the stats and benchmarks, but we're also going to complain about this trend towards dongles and making us re-buy accessories we already like...
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Manufacturers are idiots for dropping 3.5mm jacks. Lg is worthy of my dollars for understanding the importance of audio hardware
If you care about a feature (especially one Apple has axed) the only option you have left is to vote with your wallet.
Hector G. 💯. Someone said it.
allen0088 i agree. Even though i am user of bluetooth heaphones for last 2 years i wouldnt buy a phone without a headphone jack. My bluetooth headphones have AUX cable so if my battery runs out i can just attach an AUX and keep listening to music.
yes well apple had success with the the dongle hell they created with the macpro (aka the trashcan), macbookpro and with their shitphone 7.
there is no reason to believe that customers want something else now, because even this small yt tech community is devided, with the idiots sucking and praising on everything smartphone makers shit out.
there in no space for real criticism because someone might get offended.
if the 3.5mm jack is antiquated then round wheels are long overdue. lets see them fix that by reshaping wheels to squares. but dont let them sheeps know thats been dont before! 😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭😭😭😭
allen0088 No they aren't. Consumers buy with their wallets, and obviously most consumers don't care enough
I've had the V30 now for about a week. It is hands down the best phone I've used so far. I love everything about it.
Bryan S what about the selfie cam? Is it true it looks like crap? And what about the screen and battery life?
Bryan S is the front face camera and speakers as bad as they say?
Bryan S I have the LG V20 & the front camera isn't bad I don't notice since I don't take selfie's everyday lol. Battery is okay but I bought an extra one so I go 0-100 real quick. I'll be upgrading to the V30 soon for the screen Oled 😍
M 310 no they ask that cause LG brought the MP's down this year on the front camera
I love Androids, Dragons, and Wolves 1219 It's the same as the v20 5mp look it up. If you love selfies then the note 8 should help.
I borrowed my son's Sennheiser HD 598s to listen to lossless music on my V30.
It absolutely came alive and brought me to the verge of tears. I'm now saving money for my own Sennheisers to pair with my V30!
Just got my v30+ today I'm absolutely in love. The sound is amazing
:-)
What headphones/earbuds are you using? I'm using the AKG N40 earbuds and the phone sounds fantastic through them.
Thank you Juan! I was waiting for something funny at the end of the video like you always do. 😊
LOL been trimming those down...
Let's be honest. On devices as big as the v30 and the note8 they can afford to keep a headphone jack around. There is no excuse.
Millard Fillmore well my old LG Optimus Dynamic wasn't large at all and it had a headphone jack. There is no excuse for currently not having one.
Looking at my little iPhone SE, I don't think there's a good excuse at ANY size...
JuanBagnell juan could you ever see yourself using the SE as your daily driver like for a month or longer? I biught but but couldnt last more than 3 months..
What about the iPhone 8 plus or the iPhone 10 they can also fit headphone jacks there too.
www.theverge.com/2016/9/8/12839758/apple-is-biggest-winner-from-killing-headphone-jack
profit is the excuse. not size, waterproofing, wireless charging, quality, special features, its 100% greed!
Once you go DAC...you never go back.
Also, once you go flac, you never go back
They sealed the deal by supplying 6gb of RAM and having an 845. Not to mention the above average cameras. I don't need 8gb of RAM or 250gb of storage. I love the One plus 6t, but for someone who has Google Fiber and listens to 2-3 hours of audio each day, I think I'm going to roll with the V35
4KHILL Oneplus hale 1.40 Sar and LG have 0.25 Sar. Health is First
I had a V20 and i got the V40 for the DAC and yes i can't go back 😂
@@4khill462 I picked the V35 as well, it's got literally everything and no notch
I will stick to LG coz they seem to be the only one who listens to the customers and what they want. Can't wait to get the V30 very soon.
If you buy a nice set of USB-C headphones and they only work on one device, they are basically useless. If we had ONE standard for all devices it would be fine, but when every single device uses a different proprietary method of creating USB-C audio it turns into a complete mess! I just hope that by this time next year we will have gotten some kind of standard for the new age of wired audio. For now though, the 3.5mm headphone jack still (in my opinion) needs to stay on headphones, as you can still use some kind of dongle, until we can get this all figured out.
Agreed!
I think the ZTE nubia Z17 delivered analog output via USB-C, and came paired with an passive USB-C to 3.5mm-jack adapter. That's pretty much the best solution I think.
GeneRaxz Yeah that's probably the best it can get right now. If all manufacturers could include passive dongles it may help to improve the situation.
Chirpy100 I use USB-C headphones on other devices, before.
It was figured out! There was and is absolutely nothing wrong with the 3.5 mm jack. It is nothing more than getting gullible people to think that they are getting something better because Apple said so. The problem is that Apple is given way too much credit anymore. They are no longer innovators, they're just another smartphone company that cares about profit over product.
Speakers should not matter much when it comes to audio quality, i would take the V30 for its DAC rather than the pixel for their dual speakers ANY day.
It's stupid to praise and applaud dual front facing speakers when the same phone does NOT have an analog output for headphones.
most people still do use wired headphones because they can be had cheap. Most people dont really care for audio quality nor pay for it. Its social conditioning. Like how microtransactions in video games. They start to say bullshit like "digital audio" etc. Get rid of the headphone jack, can charge $30 for an adapter
D3rocks4u wireless headphones tend to be pricy, people don't care about sound, so they go for the cheaper they can find, which is wired headphones, even the most sold beats are wired.
I don't see wireless headphones replacing wired cans for audio enthusiasts or cheap bastards, at least not in the few years, even tho the companies are pushing wireless audio, their cheaper phones still include a headphone jack, for convenience.
D3rocks4u yeah i know what you mean now, still, it's a small margin, since not most of people can actually buy the flagship phone that dropped the headphone jack.
People usually buy wireless headphones as for their second pair of headphones.
not to mention the other issue with wireless headphones: battery. You forget to charge your headphones, they will die, and you wont have any music. That is one issue people forget. Yes while a wireless headphone can last an entire day, people can forget to charge them at the end of the day. Wired headphones never have that issue because as long as the phone is charged, your headphones will work
Buy some fucking wireless headphones and shut up. You got a Damn phone that more powerful than some computers. More than a billion people could wish for the things we get.
Just like the v30 is the best phone for audio you are the best for phone audio review. That is why I hope you will do a audio comparison of the v30 with others at least "worthy" competitors like the htc 10 or v20.
Phones in another league. V30, V20, V10, Axon 7, HTC 10, OnePlus 3, 3T, 5... Sigh... Good times...
Why would you have to compare the V30 to the V20? The V20 has the quad DAC but the V30 is an Upgraded unit with the ability to tune and filter. The V20 doesn't have that.
@@jspotto01 V20 sound more thick than V30. V30's sound is more thin .. more agressive
When I plugged in my Sennheiser HD1 on Tidal my V30 brought a tear to my eye. It's a huge step backwards to eliminate the 3mm, both Bluetooth and 3mm is more not less.
Hey if anyone is wondering how he got the black/orange go to Settings -> Accessibility -> Vision-> High Contrast Screen (Turn on) [no one helped me out so I figured it out 😆]
The front facing camera is the only flaw I see in this phone, other than that, flawless victory.
Yeah. Selfie game is weak. I shoot EVERYTHING from the rear cameras on the V30.
I've heard the screen is bad
I sense some Mortal Kombat lingo. "Flawless Victory" Fatality
LedHead it’s not bad, it’s just that people expected it to be better because lg makes awesome TVs
LedHead i am looking at a V30 screen and its brilliant
The audiophile in me rejoices!
:-D
Let's change that then: -56.3 dB stereo crosstalk
I had high hopes, but my cambridge audio dacmagic XS at £80 attached to my laptop is noticeably better SQ even when using Spotify extreme, let alone CDA or 24 bit hi-res. I'm using a pair of DT880 250ohm and some Klipsch x11e and both sound better with the Dacmagic. The V30 is also too quiet, although I haven't yet tried the fool the OP amp trick yet with lower impedance phones, but you shouldn't have to. Nothing I can do to compensate with the D880s as their impedance will already invoke the higher amp output.
Katzelle3 where did you come up with that number? I'll take John Atkinson's opinion over yours anyway: www.stereophile.com/content/lg-v30-hi-res-smartphone-mqa-measurements . "For its audiophile sound quality and its smartphone portability-a combination that may prove unbeatable-it belongs in Stereophile's "Recommended Components," in a Class A category all its own."
I'm currently using the quad DAC on my G6 and man, you don't even need high end headphones to notice the better sound quality. Everything sounds so clear, it's damn nice. #SaveTheJack
Well at least it's better than that Apple crap
Aaron Glisson Atleast the iPhone have stereo speakers. Who need headphones? 😂
Support You uh you can't just play your music or audio out loud everywhere so....
Every company removing that 3.5mm . Google is another fucking company to join that removing 3.5mm jack party. No one addresses that at all. Apple's included lightning earbuds are OK, HTC includes USB-C earbuds with noise cancellation which is great for average consumers, not for audiophiles. But Google fucked all consumers, doesn't include headphones, pixel 2 will ship with adapters only. At least include a average earbud.
Support You yuck.
Why would you calling him decision (+Support You) idiotic or yuck?
Even Pixel 2 is proud of their front facing stereo speakers, ditching headphone jack .
My G6 also has 75 steps of volume as well since it's got the quad DAC
Javier Prado not all G6s have quad DAC
Sadly the G6 doesn't have quad DAC in all markets.
I wish he compared this with previous LG quad dac phones, like the v20 and the g6 in some markets.
Javier Prado My Note 4 had 100 steps.
dkimmortal they seem to have the same dac, the ess sabre 9288 iirc. The software is different tho
Not bad LG
Time flies by...
Still one of the best audiophile grade & beautiful bright oled screen disply
You know it's a problem when the dongle the Moto Z ships with DOES NOT WORK AT ALL with the Galaxy Note8 and your laptop.
I cannot for the life of me understand why some people are championing this move. It's one thing to not care about it but it's another to say that I'm "whining" when I'm pointing out that this is a downgrade.
Seriously, you wanna kill the jack, go right ahead. But PLEASE for the love of Tech Sifu, implement a PROPER UNIVERSAL standard that EVERYONE can use instead of making some proprietary crap on a universal connector that doesn't even give a hint of whether it would work and in the worst cases, actually deceive consumers given the same port type.
THIS IS NOT OK! Do NOT use a USB plug if the pins are proprietary to ONE device.
JuanBagnell Exactly!
It just makes it extremely confusing over whether an accessory will work with a device.
There will be a day where we can let go of the 3.5mm jack and champion its replacement. But today, especially with the mess of multiple proprietary standards on one connector, is not that day.
I completely agree! If you buy a nice set of USB-C headphones and they only work on one device, they are basically useless. If we had ONE standard for all devices it would be fine, but when every single device uses a different proprietary method of creating USB-C audio it turns into a complete mess! I just hope that by this time next year we will have gotten some kind of standard for the new age of wired audio. For now though, the 3.5mm headphone jack still (in my opinion) needs to stay on headphones, as you can still use some kind of dongle, until we can get this all figured out.
This really is the issue that's holding me back.
I don't understand why people don't see this being an issue. The whole charge and headphones thing isn't nearly as bad as this.
D13H4RD2L1V3 Yes, this is a much bigger issue.
As an LG V30 , owner, i can testify the Quad sound. Amazing. But died, and replacing it with a V.50. I hope they never ditch the headphones. Bluetooth , Akk !!
WOOOOH!! Finally, I've been longing for this review. What took you so long Juan? Anyways, still better late than never hehe.
I just got the retail unit. More to come :-)
On the bluetooth support, glad you brought that up. Coz no other tech tubers paid attention to it. You are very right, headphone jacks eventually be gone probably 1-2 years from now. Maybe this would be the last LG smartphone that will have headphone jack (hopefully not) but when that time comes, hopefully smartphone technology is ready by that time. Every bluetooth support should atleast be 5.0 and also standard support for aptX HD to ensure better wireless audio quality. Well, that was just a wishful thinking. ☺
We can hope. Google at least did that right with Oreo. APTX built in to the OS!
Jeff Rebuzora wtf????
I absolutely love the sound output of the V30. Been listening to Tidal and the quality is simply outstanding. I also got to test out a few MQA tracks, which played back at real 32/352.8. This is the phone you want if you care at all about audio quality.
I dont have any MQA yet... Yum...
The 2L Nordic Sound label has some free tracks for testing. Otherwise you can stream MQA with Tidal at 24/48 via USB Audio Player Pro. You may want to create a playlist from the PC/Mac Tidal app first as the "M" indicator doesn't show in the app, not to mention navigation isn't too great in USB Audio Player Pro.
How does it compare to the old but great HTC 10? Forget the AMP, we know the V20/V30 has a better AMP, I'm talking about overall sound stage and specs?
Also, from what I have read, the V20/V30 is very similar. The V30 beats it because of those Digital Filters.
HTC 10 is still solid. Most quality numbers are within margin of error, with a slight lead to the V30. Nothing your ears could probably detect being honest.
JuanBagnell I wish you got to listen to the 1st generation mi mix dac and amp. The sound stage and clarity were gorgeous, had 2 korean V20s and I know have a Korean g6, but although powerful my ears haven't been as happy as they were with the mix. It even powered my Fostex t50rps to insane levels, shame about the rest of the phone though.
JuanBagnell But what about the DAC? No other DAC brand besides ESS has managed to please my ears. Cirrus Logic in the iPhones? Ugh. Wolfson in Samsung Galaxy devices? No, thank you. Even the AKM in the Axon 7 sounds subjectively bad.
I don’t know why, but the way ESS DACs (like the ones found in the LG G6, V20, and V30) handle sound is on point.
Thanks for doing these audio reviews. One product you might want to consider trying with your Pixel 2 XL "Real Audio Review" is the AIAIAI bluetooth headphones. You can use them with the Pixel 2 XL three different ways: with the adapter as regular corded headphones (3.5 mm plug), without the adapter as USB-C headphones (plug straight into Pixel 2 XL USB-C port), or cordless as bluetooth headphones (they are "Made for Google" and have the quick pair feature). I'm really interested in the audio quality of the new Pixels (didn't buy last year's Pixel XL because of poor audio quality through the headphone jack and through the speaker), and I would love to see a comparison between these three options. Having the same exact headphones test all three connection methods would be a great way to see quality differences between them. Just a suggestion. Looking forward to the review either way.
Still have the v20 and love it.
MethodicalMayhem any lags !?? Stutters !?? Or software issues !??
I am considering v7 as a probable future upgrade so i want to know your opinion
How come pocketnow has only 1.5m subscribers? It seems been a long way with its videos already, I thought pocketnow is the biggest tech reviewers on TH-cam until I am surprised to see the subscriber numbers, definitely going to introduce the channel to friends and families, thanks for the great videos
Who would have thought you could have better quality wired audio and charging and listening at the same time without an adapter. and still have the highest quality wireless when you want it plus the MQA codec in one phone with no adapters or dongles. WOW!!!!
WHO'D HAVE THUNK IT?!?!?!
hehe
I tried using LG V30+ as a source for my Avantgarde Solo speakers, it really delivers. Soundstage is incredible, imaging is solid and the speakers completely disappears. Absolute best for someone that takes their music seriously.
Wide soundstage right???
Is the AMP more powerful than the V20? Does it deliver noticeably better sound quality than the V20?
I wish LG would allow you to toggle the high impedance mode. I some headphone that are less then 50 ohms, but could benefit from the full power of the V20/V30 (planars like the HE-500 and others).
sure
I bought V20 because of your "real audio" review last year and I do not regret it. I know my next phone will be V30/V40 because I need awesome DAC and decent AMP to power my AKGs. Thanks for being the only android youtube channel that appreciates sound quality!
Glad I could help :-)
If the V30 can hang with the Fiio X5 II, no point in buying the X5.. Thanx
i do own the Fiio X5 3rd gen (i bought it at launch) i plugged a sennheiser HD700 into it, set it to High Gain & listened to it for almost a month (i was very disappointed with the quality) it was worse than an old Bose quiet comfort 25 plugged into an Exynos Samsung S7 edge (sound quality wise !!!).
one month later i got the LG V20, plugged the HD700 into it (i was completely relieved) it sounded so much better and clearer (the difference was night and day) even my brother listened to both devices and made fun of the cheap Fiio X5 III (which had a louder AMP volume, Yet the quality was horrible, when plugged to these specific headphones).
9 monthes ago i traded my V20 for a V30+ (they are both great) ill never buy a phone other than an LG V series.
keep in mind that ive never tried a second generation fiio x5, only the X5 3rd and the old Fiio X3 first gen.
The Sabre DAC chip on V30 is much better than the one on Fiio X5.
Good thing I didn't get that fiio x5.
Your Real Audio reviews are what I look forword to the most.....I'm a budding audiophile and really appreciate the effort that goes in....it's a bummer to see manufactureres opting out the 3.5mm jack for no proper apparent reason whatsoever....
Oh I think there's a reason...
I wish HTC would include an amazing head phone jack (like the 10) as well as their new usb c ear scanning headphones, in their new flagships :(
I agree. Why not give us the best of both worlds.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. That would be killer.
Thanks for digging in and bringing us this level of detail on the LG V30. I tend to keep my phones for a long time, sometimes four years or longer. I'm seriously considering buying this one because of the audio experience, and because I'd like to have something that delivers high-quality audio to my cable-driven headphones for longer than the next two years. I think your theory about driving accessory sales with the removal of the headphone jack is accurate. It's nice to see one company proving that the tech is far from obsolete.
Well.. Is the sound any good when everything set to "flat" or "normal" with just the Quad DAC enabled? EQ filters just messes with the sound...
I only listen and test flat. The impulses are a new filter for attack/decay.
The impulse response choice is a marketing gimmick for the type of FIR filter you want for the anti-aliasing low-pass filter you want at Nyquist frequency. Unless you have a dog that can listen to the difference between a slow roll-off at stopband vs fast, there's no point. Also, interpolating a 16-bit (even 24-bit) to 32 bit just to have the EQ settings that are arbitrary (not research based a la Olive et al's IEM target curve), is simply overkill. Even pro audio uses max 24bit DSP racks.
+Pocketnow Are you not aware of the 3.5mm phone jack extention trick? This tricks the phone into turning on the internal amp for ALL headphones.
Simply plug in a short female/male 3.5mm headphone jack extension into the phone 1st. Make sure the head phones are NOT plugged into the female end when you plug in the extension to the phone. When the extension jack is plugged in, the phone turns on the internal amp because it can't read the headphones resistance. This tricks the phone into thinking it's using a line out cable. So plug in extension cable 1st, then plug in your headphones. The amp will boost everything so be carefull with low resistence headphones as they can easily be over driven.
note8 is so bad on music performance, I think I will change it for v30 only because of the best quality of music
I hope that the headphones jack doesn't go away. Also I love this series. Please keep up the good work!
I think it's inevitable unfortunately, but when it finally goes away, I hope we have a good cabled alternative.
My LgV30 cannot recognize a normal or high impedance device at the top of dac settings can somebody help me!? :/
it's just the software not showing it not sure why but it can definitely recognise the impedence level
Yeah i noticed it too, how do we change it? My layout is different than Juan's
Juan Carlos Bagnell is always my go-to-guy when it comes to audiophile-quality smartphone reviews. Nobody else comes close to the in-depth level he does.
I wish it had a removable battery. I'll wait for the ifixit tear-down video to see if it's easy to replace.
Well said and true.
But I hope your prediction of the headphone jack and plug are not, as it has been through 100 years or so and is still going strong, and the majority, by about 99% of headphones ever sold, but the profit rate is so high on wireless headphones that most headphone/phone makers are caving in, and purposely giving features to the wireless phones , and withholding them from the wired phones, when wired can do it better and with no interference.
Not just that, but many bluetooth premium professional wireless headphones have great dacs and amps, but that dac and amp is only usable while in wireless mode, I am seeing this more and more, so on those headphones the wireless mode sounds better even with compressed audio files, when the manufactor could, like a few have, make the dac/amp accessible in wired or wireless mode, which than makes the uncompressed wired mode sound better like it is.
Make no mistake Apple bought beats to get a monopoly on the wireless headphone market, to do that they had to eliminate the headphone jack to entice you to buy wireless, and make wired headphones look stupid with a required dongle, and when you lose that dongle, they make extra money on replacements, they also make a killing on requiring the camera to lightning kit for portable dac/amps for hires audio, when lightning is really just usb with apple proprietary connector on top.
Apple wants anything that is connected to it's phones and computers to have to pay apple a fee, in one way or another, thats why no sd card, or headphone jack, and the new unrepairable airpods with sealed batteries are designed just like their phones, to need charging so much, that after a year or two you upgrade or throw them into a landfill.
Bluetooth uses more of the phones battery than wired headphones, even today in 2017 the old headphone jack is superior technology than bluetooth, now wifi headphones could be great, aside from using even more processor and battery on your phone, never mind all of the wireless waves around you.
Google is doing the same thing, they laughed at apple taking away the headphone jack, until they realized they had extremely profitable plastic wireless earbuds to sell, and they made sure to give them exclusive features they purposely withheld from wired headphones, and they sell replacement dongles for $20-now $9 after an outcry.
Everyone can now clearly see the headphone jack is only being fazed out to create a market for profitable disposable battery powered wireless headphones, and lightning $$$ money for apple accessories and headphones and dongle sales, similar for Google.
The removable battery was similar as they can easily do removable battery and water resistance, but removable battery means that after a year, buying a fresh battery means your phone holds a charge just like it was when it was new, so your chances of wanting or needing a new phone is diminished, and even LG could not resist that temptation.
It's really sad :( how we are being played for profit $$$$, and only profit by these huge corporations, so I applaud LG for hanging on to the sd card, even when samsung tried apples strategy to up sell you to the highest storage phone, and to get you to buy a new one next year for more storage space, and for keeping the removable battery longer than anyone, here's hoping they will keep the headphone jack no matter what, as it is really cheaper to include it on the phone than as a pack in dongle, however the lost dongle sales and highly profitable wireless bluetooth disposable headphone sales which LG and samsung have been making for years, may be too much temptation in the near future.
www.theverge.com/2016/9/8/12839758/apple-is-biggest-winner-from-killing-headphone-jack
I think it'll be like a lot of other industries. Convenience will almost always win over quality. We actually have 3.5mm jacks because they were more convenient than all the weird proprietary ports used on flip phones. While consumer gear might ditch the phono jack, I doubt the recording industry will any time soon. Like cameras, consumers will give up on the standalone cameras and lenses, but enthusiasts and professionals will keep the market alive.
I agree as a musician many of the products I use have the 1/4" jack, 3.5MM jack, XLR jacks, coaxial and opt digital jacks, I was really miffed when Apple took the optical digital feature from the macbook pro's headphone jacks, so I kept my old Macbook Pro.
I would love to see LG continue to improve the headphone jack, maybe by adding digital out to it and maybe a second jack and or usb mic accessory.
Having said that it was nice we both got our rants out :)
I feel better now!!!!
Welcome to Capitalism
I am a V20 User and a can truly understand your love for LG...
IT'S no doubt the best.
Headphone socket on the top is just wrong.
It should ALWAYS be at the bottom.
Actually I agree. If the phone goes into my pocket upside down, it's the most natural grip to pull it back out and be looking at it rightside up. The headphone jack on the bottom would facilitate that. Also makes it a little easier to charge and listen if it's in a pocket, purse, or in a container when driving.
Dan RC I agree with you
1st world problems. I usually put my Axon 7 upside down in the pocket but when using earphone I put it upside up since its headphone jack is on top.
Its okay either way except if they put the headphone jack on the side which is a nightmare.
True, holding the phone it's way much better to have the cord at the bottom of the phone
I like it at the top...
Damn dude today i watched all your v20 and g6 audio related video's and was so curious on when you gonna do the v30. Finally it's here.
LG v20 vs v30 audio review?
Cody Mhoon this! They gave the same family out dac, is there any tangible difference in audio quality
There is a big difference 132 v 142 decimals
Gabriela Rivera I think you mean decibels.
Cody Mhoon well u could say snapdragon 821 didn't have support for 32 bit but the snapdragon 835 does so this is may use the quad dac a little better than the v20 did
Goddamn I love these audio reviews, please keep em coming! Helped me decide on the v30 as my next phone!
Happy to help :-)
Can't wait for the Google Pixel 2 real audio review! I hope that dongle provides better playback output than the original Pixel!
Fingers crossed, but I'm not super confident it will be. I'm worried it might be the same as HTC's...
JuanBagnell That's true, I didn't think about that. The HTC U11 had disappointing audio playback compared to the years prior, and even the S8 can provide higher quality playback at times. Let's hope Google added some extra spice this time!
To be honest we cannot expect more then what lg is giving us on audio. Remember type c earphones are new and lg just dropped I really big bomb with the v30 love everything about this phone it has everyhing what else do we need. Headphone jack,wireless charging,quad screen,hdr10 compatible for nice video, water resisten,oled screen, good battery and lot more we cannot ask for a better phone
I've been auditioning the Note 8 and the Pixel 2 XL for a almost a week now. The Pixel 2 XL sound output is unfortunately the weakest part of the hardware. The built-in stereo speakers are flat and thin compared to the Note 8's single bottom speaker. It doesn't help that the Pixel's top speaker can't produce as low of frequencies as it's bottom speaker. When turned up to either the highest or second highest setting the Pixel phone's screen actually vibrates which doesn't speak well for it's build quality. When using the included headphone dongle in the USB C Port the sound once again falls flat, lacking both the depth and volume I'm hearing from the Note 8. I'll be picking up the V30 tomorrow or Saturday and will be making a final decision on which phone I'll be keeping. The Note 8 leads right now even though I hate all the bloat from Samsung/Verizon, there are cases that actually have side walls higher than the curved glass screen, and it's still stuck on the Android's August security patches.
Thx so much Juan for this LG V30 audio review. i look forward already to your LG V40 audio review. My daily driver is a LG V20. I bought ot for two primary reasons: 1. removable battery & 2. Fantastic audio using wired headphones. Peace.
LG V30 =Audiorgasm..
I use a iDSD Black Label for my portable audio. My earphones are the Campfire Audio Andromedas
Can you connect iDSD black label to Lg V30? How I get both working??
These reviews are the only way I judge a phone these days cameras just don't mean anything to me
You hit the nail right on the head. Removing the headphone jack is nothing more than marketing, to drive accessories sales. I don't think the headphone jack will disappear, laptops still have them for example. Google will learn their lesson and it will return on the Pixel 3, again what a great marketing gimmick to drive sales with the triumphant return of the feature. LG V30 will be my phone of choice this year coming from a Pixel XL, listening Google?
Please Do Mate 10 Pro Audio Review :)
I listen music on my sistem only via bluetooth. I have a sony xperia z3 (2014). I want to buy an lg v30 or v40 only to play music via bluetooth. Would be a difference in sound quality between my old sony vs Lg ? ?
*My Axon 7 also has great sound.*
Anthony Turner yo word!!!!.....ZTE where is the follow up!!!???
no
They announced they are bringing a new axon
Tomorrow actually October 17
C.Y Changhee yoon No? Have you used the US version?
Even today in 2022 its still the best portable DAC! You can get one on eBay for $90 and put all your music on it. Also it streams and plays like a champ where most portable DAC's struggle with Spotify and large music libraries because their CPU is too weak.
What happens if I plug my speakers from my apartment or car to this Phone??? I heard this phone's DAC has a wide soundstage, the wide soundstage is a classic sound, Soft dome Tweeters sound very smooth & warm when a good DAC is around
You can get one for $50 now. I only paid $80 for a mint condition LG G8 and the DAC is crazy good.
how does is compare with LG V20??
VERY close in terms of audio, but the V30 is a better phone in nearly every other aspect.
JuanBagnell is very close? But what is the diferent ? Lgv30 have more soundtage or what?could be more specific?thanks
I think that even when the headphone jack dies, there might still be a lot of value in these audio reviews if they shift to reviewing the dongles and headphones included with the phones. Reviews of 3rd party audio gear would be great too.
Yeah, it's just, that's not REALLY the phone. We should step up our accessory reviews in general though.
Just let people know, lg quad dac only works with high impedance headphones 50+. And that is very stupid move by lg. Sound is same with or without quad dac turned on on headphones like audio technica m50x.. Htc much much better
75 steps is amazing!!! Seriously...My HTC 10 is great but I either have my volume at borderline destroying my ears or just below comfortable. Having options in between is amazing. Can't wait to get my V30+ from Sprint.
If you say this v30 sounds better than iPhone or iPod, I will buy this phone ..
Eduardo Stewart it is
Eduardo Stewart This phones audio is worlds better then what’s found in any iPhone.
I don't know about an iPod Classic, but the iPhone? WAY BETTER.
An Axon 7 sounds better than an iPhone, an V20 sounds better than an Axon 7, an V30 sounds better than an V20.
it's like literally 3x better
Hey Juan, I love LG's V30 offering this year, the only thing that stops me is their lack of support for future software updates and for normal people, we need our phones to be updated, since we wont be buying another one for 2-3 years. +pocketnow
That I completely agree with. Maybe the most disappointing aspect of owning an LG is their current security patch update strategy.
how does it compare to V20 which you can get for around $250 used. 🤔
VERY close in terms of audio, but the V30 is a better phone in nearly every other aspect.
I have v20 I think you can buy few of the v20 for one v30, v20 should do what v30 can, battery die faster but it's removeable
Good to see an audio review w/ Novermber Rain in the Playlist. I trust your opinion 90's bud ;)
:-D
LG > Apple definitely lolol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For audio? No contest.
JuanBagnell yeah 👍👍👍👍👍 😏😏😏😏😏😏
Thats the reason why they didnt remove the 3.5 jack.. and its a big plus for V30! Must buy!
V20 vs V30?
For audio, they're super close, but the V30 is a better phone in nearly every other regard, especially battery life.
I'm sorry but the V20 wins the battery life comparison every time....0 to 100 % charge in a NY minute!
John S.
That's not true
WHat's not true? I carry a spare fully charged battery. Takes seconds to swap it. V20 the last phone to have a removable battery.... It's very true.
John S. Smart
Best phone ever made, 6 months after buying it im still in love with it.
Damn, its too bad I won't give LG another chance. My flex 2 had a discolored OLED display, my Nexus 5x bootlooped, my Stylo phone had a yellowish display. All my phones got updates after a very long time. Nah. No more LG.
Updates on LG phones are always frustrating.
Miguel Angel Medina Rise well you are one customer that's it
Some people have bad luck, ive had good luck. I bought a used 5x and used G4 back in early 2016 and both lasted me until july this year until i sold them both. Bought a used 5x again and its great to be back on amdroid
Charoen P lmao go check out the nexus5x subreddit and you tell me if I'm just one customer. And look at the V30 forums too. LG doesn't have great quality assurance.
Miguel Angel Medina Rise G4, 5x have bootloop issue. I have a dead G4 with me but still millions uses use Lg phones out there with no problem. May be it wise to try other brands which I do too it's our choice.
I just bought the skullcandy crusher wireless and I'm definitely buying the LG v30
Good review if you are talking specifically about sound quality for music. However, I came on here to look up sound quality for phone usage. It is a phone first after all. I have only had this phone 2 days and I am taking it back. No one can hear what I'm saying or understand me when I use the speaker phone. The speaker is terrible.
Always a delight to hear about audio.
u are my youtube hero carlos...... you are just my house of information about sounds behind its technology... thanks bro
Glad I can help :-)
Wonderful review. It is sad to watch mobile reviews these days where they completely neglect the earphone music quality of a phone, as if no one is interested in them any longer.
I have B&O H6 headphones and V30 is simply rocking them!
Most manufacturer like Google & Apple (own iTunes and Apple Music) don't realise that music is one of the big factor when buying a smartphone. Good thing Sammy and LG keep it and not following the stupid Apple trend!
My Lenovo P2 has terrific, rich sound from a single bottom firing speaker.
I am LG v10 customer, And I love Lg V30, and I am gonna upgrade to it...Thank u for great review...U are the best...
Glad you enjoyed :-)
JuanBagnell, Thanks for your reply, I like the style of your describing you are the best, Do you know when LG v30 will release in INDIA???
I bought LG v10 After watching your review & I love till now, my brother having s7 Edge but uses my smartphone more than his, he use to say LG v10 audio kicks off the Samsung s7 Edge audio output...All credit for you, Thanks man...
You're very welcome. No idea on India launch unfortunately. Best of luck.
@0:23 this guy is seriously happy
Yea that's not a gimmick guys bought v30 love every minute of it. The vibrant screen the quad dac. My wife gotta s8 and v30 is no slouch trust me guys it's kicking s8 ass big time. Right now I'm enjoying my MUSAAC 🎵🎵🎵🎵🎧🎧🎧🎧
Hey Carlos, can you do a more in depth comparison/analysis to your fiio x5iii?
Excellent as always! Great job!
Glad you enjoyed :-)
You are so right about the reasons behind the death of the 3.5mm jack that it hurts, for now it's worth it to keep buying phones with it because it will probably be gone by your next upgrade, LG won a consumer on me with the V20, let's hope there's a true standard by the time we have to upgrade, still the 3.5 jack will be missed
Fingers crossed Samsung and LG hold out until we have a true USB replacement.
Why can the V30 only get my Hifiman planars (sub 100 ohm) to a fairly high level? I listen on max without fatigue and I'm confused as to whether this is a problem with my V30.
After my (current) HTC10, I can't go back to crappy wired audio.. I love the DAC on this thing.. The V30's will be even better I'm presuming!
Quality is really close, but that amp is kind of epic.
This phone is no joke. Everything mentioned in this review is true. I´ve snatched mine off ebay for 120$ (!) This is a phone VERY low on desirablity to own,for most. So much better for us. Get yours before its to late ! btw the camera app is a killer too...
The one plus 5 has 30 steps to it and I'm enjoying the audio from that over the previous 3t thinking of picking up the LG v30 next just hard to chose between lgs audio, the pixels software and Samsung's beautiful screens.
For an audio standpoint, LG V series Does have a large edge over the other phones. The audio chip sets aside from being sourced from a respected brand, is properly utilised for its purpose. This video just shown us that. The V Series is a head on it terms of SQ to most mid-priced DAPs. I own a V10 their very 1st "Smart-DAP", still enjoying up to this time of commenting...
I don't see the audio jack disappearing until Bluetooth 5.0 is here and delivers on his promises. No cuts, no hiccups, CD audio quality & long range
I am a record producer and listen to mixes on my phone and the quad dac is awesome. I have some great headphones so the combination is impossible to beat. Great review! I love the V30 for alot of reasons but audio was Paramount.
I use my V30 with my Sennheiser HD600's and RHA T20's. Fantastic sound!
I just wish the headphone jack was on the bottom.
thank you for the awesome review.
does connecting the LG v30 to the car via AUX also improve the audio quality of the car speakers or is it only for headphones ?
It is heart breaking that popular mobile manufacturers are dropping 3.5mm audio jack just to sell their expensive/proprietary/exclusive accessories. I hope there will be a few sensible manufacturers to understand the primary needs of users.
Outstanding review as always. However, I didn't believe LG's that vulnerable to boot loops until it happened to my V10. That prevented me from purchasing the V20. This will be my next phone but I'm just going to wait a while til I read any issues (or no issues) before buying.
Yeah, LG handled that poorly, but I haven't seen any consistent evidence that phones after the G5 have failed to the same degree.
0:20 Juan seems sooooooo happyyyyyyyy :D
Still haven't found a comparison between the V30 and the G6+ as they both have quad DACs. Maybe even the exact same one.
So good. I'm just worried about reports on the screen of the V30, but I guess you'll have plenty of that on the review.
Great video again Juan.
You tactfully said that these manufacturers are just nickel diming consumers. Well done haha. Nothing wrong with having both blue tooth and a phono jack. How would you compare the v30 audio quality to the HTC 10? I got the 10, because of the smaller form factor.
This is the biggest middle finger to apple and google