Gearing, wheel sizes, etc. are here: dkwan.com/reviews/uphill-stress-tests-exway-evolve-onsra-and-more/. I didn’t want to make this video too long and difficult to digest for my target viewers (beginners).
To those who said Evolve would have done better on 6” wheels than it did here with 7”: 1. I agree, but we didn’t have 6” Evolve wheels and the other smaller wheels we tried didn’t fit Evolve’s pulleys, and their equivalent pulleys didn’t fit on Evolve either. 2. If we put 6” wheels on the Evolve to make things “fair”, we should put 6” wheels on the WowGo and Ownboard also. In this video, the WowGo and Ownboard had the same exact gearing and wheel size as Evolve and they would do better as well with 6” wheels. Evolve likely would still rank at the bottom with all the gearing and wheel sizes equal.
@@DanielKwan Yep. Not to mention the stock Evolve AT setup comes with 7" tires, 6" is an add on. Whilst with the Atlas, the stock AT setup is 6". So out the box, the evolve loses. Not that it matters, the evolve loses anyway 😂
“In case you were wondering. Yes, the Evolve was in custom mode, and had power dialed to maximum” -Daniel Kwan, Eskate Batman, deliverer of justice *Everybody liked that*
@@smwyler M8, you know having the 6 inch with 47t is geared for speed, not for torque right? which is what an uphill test needs? Kwan literally showed the best case scenario for Evolve by giving them the torque setup compared to the Exway, which has a slightly lower torque drive train setup. Had he used the 6 inch with 47t setup, the result would not have been 2 minutes, it would've been 10 years because god bless the souls of those poor motors for having to uphold the duty of that hill carrying Tilo's ampleness ;)
@@stealther1401 have both sets, 6s and 7s. From the bottom of a hill to the top, 6s go up faster. If you can get to a faster speed at the start of the hill you will get to the top faster than on the 7s. You might go slower at the steep part a bit more but you will do the rest faster on the 6s than 7s due to getting to a higher top speed. Often ride with others that use the 7s, got to be really steep for the 6s to struggle. U put the 6s on the 66t and it’s totally different again.
this video is soooo fake and a revenge to the "chinaboard exway comparison" Evolve was posting .dont let this communist fool you : ))))) Evolve has a support center almost everywhere on this planet ;) no other brand can do that for you !
@@endlesssummerproduction are you talking the piss with this support thing? Evolve have denied problems with there boards for years.with the gtx they never helped with any of the battery sag issues, they still think there remotes are good, they blame boards locking up on trigger values or stone's getting stuck in the belts I could go on and on.come on support my ass
@@endlesssummerproduction Lmao, nice try. Buy a hot garbage product because the CS is better? Give me a break, I can swap any part in minutes, and it's so simple a child could do it. Evolve was cool a couple years ago but they are behind now. Currently you are WAY better off to buy a < $1000 board, then use the savings to stock parts to keep it running for two or three thousand miles. Unless my deck breaks or my board catches fire, I have spares for everything. I won't have to miss a day of riding, and I haven't spent close to evolve money yet.
this video is soooo fake and a revenge to the "chinaboard exway comparison" Evolve was posting . thats just bullshit. dont let this communist fool you : )))))
@@endlesssummerproduction do you own an evolve or are you just a fan boy? If you did own one you would know how cheap there remotes are and there are countless people making complaints of motors over heating and there boards locking up.
@@greencoxy, Evolve's remotes for their older boards are junk. Their first generation remote is still the one I use with their Carbon GT. As far as the motors go... it's difficult to fault the motors when they are sourced from the same Chinese sources that others source from. So instead of honestly identifying WHAT Chinese manufacturer of motors should probably be avoided.. you decided to pin that on Evolve. Evolve's biggest mistake was in using a Chinese engineering firm to make their deck. There design was immediately sold to others and knockoff boards appeared months after Evolve released their boards. This...is the single biggest hurdle the Chinese will face as they attempt to enter the world market. Until China can learn to play by the rules, you will continue to see backlash against your manufacturing practices. The world isn't communist. IP does NOT belong to "the people". It isn't there to be shared openly until the company that developed it has an opportunity to gain revenue to cover development costs. If this isn't maintained... then all innovation will cease. It is for this reason that communism always fails.
*Easily one of the top esk8 videos on so many levels* 😂 I dont watch the shows the intro is based on but even I loved that intro 🔥 "Premium power" 😂🤣😭 The results really surprised me. Informative, funny and even the ad breaks were timed really well to break up the video. 👏🏼👏🏼
im not gonna lie i laughed until i drop😂.. honestly im not mad😆 this i the best way to trash evolved....everytime they say "premium power" a tear drop everytime😂😂😂
Top 10 anime intros. Also the 1:13 moment is pure gold, I am amazed by the quality and anime style in general. Should honestly use this as an intro for all your similar long vids. Congrats to the editor! and obviously to the whole crew
Brilliant video Daniel! That intro was absolutely hilarious! In my opinion that was a well conducted and fair comparison of those boards. I have personally fried many Evolve motors climbing hills that other comparable boards would handle easily. Surely Evolve have recognised that this is a problem by now and will release a model with bigger motors soon. In Australia though, an Evolve GTR is actually cheaper than a 2WD Atlas, so the decision between the two is not as obvious. If your a lighter rider or don’t push it to the limit then a GTR could be perfect for you. On the other hand if you’re heavier or like the ride hard up hills then I’d go for an Atlas or something else.
not to mention he didn't even came close to flooring the throttle, Tilo had his Battery at 100A and motors at 120A and never even came close to pressing the throttle half way down
@@alexanderturl i agree, ill sacrifice a couple mph for a board that was made correctly and not handmade myself following a youtube DIY that will also be heavy and look super ugly compared to the sleek designs of companies that have design teams etc.
@@loganmatthewolson99 it all depends on use case, budget and if what you want is even available commercially, and while it's difficult you can most definitely make a DIY board look nice.
Should be pretty close to the Trampa; I'm running 100a (total) battery and 120A per motor on it with a unity. The naz runs less than that but it'll still be far ahead of the production boards tho
Even worse when you include price and the fact you cannot upgrade it. The Atlas 2wd might be about the same price but you can upgrade it and has a larger battery.
Was so excited to watch this, and wasn't disappointed in the slightest! And btw, if the Exway Atlas 2WD performs that well, can you imagine what the 4WD is like? I don't consider the Atlas to be overpriced at all.
I have the exway wave riot and it preforms spectacularly on hills, can't imagine the atlas 2w not to mention the 4wd. The next board I get will be the atlas 4wd. I wish I didn't spend so7ch money on all of teamgees garbage boards. The only good one was the h20 mini and that was after replaci g the battery twice on a brand new board. Every other teamgee board I've had(which is all of them) broke in under a year. If I would have known more in my early Esk8 days I would have started with Exway!!!!🤕
It's equipped with a vesc, meaning it can utilize higher battery amps. That would be unfair against the boards using hobbywing esc, which is comparatively weaker, and some of these boards are 10s rather than 12s. Then you can just bump up your motor amps even higher on the eovan, making it even more unfair
@@langcheng5443 ...how is it unfair. The Exway Atlas and evolve gtr are competing in the same price range as the Eovan. I guess that it's only unfair because its simply better than the other two like the Trampa that they threw in there as a joke so i see your point👍
Motor Temp Listed in Speed Order Exway 28.5 Onsra 22 Bibuff 31 Ownboard 25 Verreal 23 Wowgo 21 Evolve 43 The Exway also did the double pull while managing to hit only 41. The Evolve overheated. Would of liked to see the forgotten temp for the Onsra (only 6368 tested) but it made the run ok. Also curious that the Bibuff died.
Im hyped af bc i finally got my Wowgo AT2 and i wanna know how it performs in comparison to all other awesome AT boards. Bless you guys for making this video!!!!
@@mckdoeful Do you enjoy the board?? If YES then that is what matters. Ive had ny AT2 under a month and i love it. Then again, im half a century old..... :)
AT2 is still great! 1. AT2 had the exact same gearing and wheel size as the Evolve and still outperformed it. 2. AT2 is the only board other than Atlas in this lineup that can be turned on with the remote. Sounds like a silly feature but the ones that don’t have that feel a bit behind the times just because of that. 3. I was actually surprised the AT2 ranked below Ownboard since they are using the same battery and motors and wheel size. Guess the difference is in the ESC but I would still prefer WowGo’s ESC over most of the others’.
@@DanielKwan Awesome!! That is great to hear from someone whos tested so many boards. I just hope that whenever the wowgo at3 comes out its gonna keep everything the AT2 has but a loot more powerfull top speeds that would put it at the top of all i think. :D
@@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco don't get unknownboard. I can teach you to build the same thing with half the price they sell it for. I really hate to say it but Chris and Ricky are in it for money now instead of "average eskate reviews". SMH.
@@gialongtonthat5404 Build your own if you are willing to experiment a little bit, otherwise buy either the Atlas or Onsra, do NOT buy VESC boards yourself as it is very likely they cheaped out on the ESC.
@@stealther1401 in my dreams Evolve upgrades batteries and motors to new standards ...i love the flex of tbe deck en carving feel, not sure why all the others make stiff decks recently.
Dude, your editing continues to improve and your approach is always evolving. I love your content. This was a great video. I especially loved the effort you went to with the intro song in the beginning. Well done!
So far only one evolve fan or technician dislike the video. Hahaha. Hope your return policy still active.lolwell yhe number whent up to 18, thats about the entire staff.lmbo.
Eovan should up their accessory range, to at least to include some mudguards. Then there's of course the elephant in the room, being the 4WD option for Atlas. The Eovan wheels seem super nice. I think I might hog them for my Miles Phantom if my spouse ends up ordering the Eovan. 🙊
@@Debodegacat He definitely made a mistake there, but, I wouldn’t pin him for what came next. Everybody knows that Matty’s bitter and twisted about anything that isn’t Evolve, he had the thought at the time that Jay had that board but would’ve done it either way with another board.
To be fair... The Evolve GTR is the oldest of all these boards, and the other ones are ALL just inspired by Evolve! Evolve was leading the way back then and did all the work in terms of research and design. It's not a secret anymore that it is no longer state of the art these days and I have always questioned its "AT-suitability". IMHO it only shines as a street carver with 32 teeth and streetwheels. Yes all these clones and copies are better, but what's about customer service? Most of them SUCK in terms of customer service and that's what makes the difference in the end. Nice video, btw!
I second that. I'm still riding my GT and was lucky to have support as I live in Cologne near Düsseldorf, where Evolve resides. Much of the price is due to 2 year warranty without any questions. In that time I got new wheels, new ESC and new BMS for free. Me and a friend of mine own China boards (Meepo) too. One truck broke, remote batteries are dead after a year, BMS defective. These are additional costs which may be overlooked in the first place. All companies cook with water, everything may brake sooner or later, but for now with my experience I'd rather choose warranty over lowest price. I'm sure Daniel would get new motors for free from Evolve, even after a year riding.
@@eboardcologne I have a backfire ranger x1 that i bought for 600 euro on a kickstarter. That board has now done over 6000km and Backfire has replaced every single part for free.
@@eboardcologne sadly here in China where evolve doesn't have customers service we're forced to go though friends in locations with evolve and buy motors out of warranty then ship them back (est 100quid a motor) since evolve will only maintain the if you ship the board at your own cost to and fro thier repair shops
@@tzdkb well, if I lived in China, there would be no reason for me to buy an Evolve 😂 for Europe the Chinese market is good if you don't rely on warranty, add future costs in mind and/or can handle very long shipping times. As I said, I'm lucky to have the Evolve department 30km away from me. And I can drink a coffee while waiting for things to get replaced. I'm willing to pay some money extra for this.
@@DanielKwan who did you reach out to at Eovan? Surprised to hear they did not respond. I know they are servicing a lot of demand at the moment (took 5 weeks for my board from order to shipping) but Jason their marketing man is always helpful and responsive. I pinged him and he said he had not heard from you personally - DM me on Instagram and I can hook you up.
@@markrobbins3357 I used their website’s contact form. What’s your IG? My DM requests are turned off. Can also reach me thru my website dkwan.com/contact.
Missed out on trx 2.0 because I just got one put 300kms.on it now, quicker than bamboo gtr and more. Fun imo cheaper. Better wand and battery. Wish trx2.0 was here as well. As the m24 ecomobl
All the boards in your test were belt drive. I must avoid belt drive as I can’t replace the belts by myself. Maxfind hub motor is my choice too so I bought one M6 DIY KIT- $799. IT is installed to the retired Aston blinks 2 deck. It’s my favorite too. It’s two rear wheel hub motor drive. My M24 ecomobl is about $2000 after discount code is so heavy and I love my M24 so much ! M24 runs marvelously in grasslands 👍👍👍. Thank you - DK 🙏🙏🙏
Well, the results don't lie. Seems like Evolve is dead or murdered by default. Specs does matter if you really know what it means. Exway's technical design of the ATLAS is really hard to defeat (commercial & economic aspects) for now.
So you are like deep into the e skate community I’m just starting, but I’m very curious what you think about the propel 2 pro, I just bought one , haven’t used it yet , and am apprehensive to use it as I can’t return it once I do, I’ve heard it’s great but then I hear it’s gutless up hills , what do you think of it? I definitely want the off road capability but not if it can’t get me up good little hills, what is your true opinion?
Do they not have a function to shut them off when they reach a certain critical temperature? or at the very least decrease the power similar to how a CPU would in a computer
hey Daniel i bought a wave with cloudwheels 105mm. the battery indicator from 35% drops to 15% in no time. i have 3 batteries. they all behave the same. u mentioned they were super accurate with the%?
I have an Exway wave with the same issue, I have been reading a few posts about it and apparently exway is going to be releasing a firmware update soon that will improve the accuracy.
Really nice tests. It seems that you really enjoy Evolve-Bashing - I think besides that there was no point to use the Evolve in the second test, because the result of the first test was already very poor ;-) Considering the bigger battery capacity, the Onsra Black Carve 2 seem to be a very nice option. Could you please provide a table with all results on your homepage for easy lookup? Thanks.
You did a great job on testing e boards with rear wheel drives. I just got M24 ecomobl e board with all 4 wheel gear drive , all 4 wheel independent suspensions and all 4 wheel brakes. The M24 is so solid and powerful that I feel the boards I saw in your videos were boys toys 😀. Well , here I suggest that you test M24 , bajaboard, bio boards of the all four wheel gear drive and compare the relative endurance of the three all wheel gear drive boards 🙏. Thank you !
Help!!! I am looking to buy an all terrain board, and I hear everyone hate on double kingpin struts. But, after watching numerous videos, I have not found any that were not double kingpin. What are the options? I was thinking Atlas, but that one has double kingpin too. Thanks in advance
Is ther eany Video comparing all those Bamboo Boards in the Point of Riding comfort, Carving Stability, Acceleration Smoothness. I mean its fun to see a Test like that. but its a very "specific" Test where ti find a general comparison that could help you deciding which Board to buy? We have no E-Skate Store here. So i have no Option then to take all Infos out of the Web and hope im lucky and pick the right one. But in 90% of all Videos its only about Max. Speed and stuff and not so often about the Riding feeling or how hoisy a board is. Greets From Spain!
Exway decided to bend Evolve over and then give them the D... with a higher quality board which is also cheaper XD. For those who didn't know, Evolve made fun of Exway and uploaded the video on youtube. The board they used from Exway was not all terrain, was on beginner mode and was pre production testing unit. Video Link: th-cam.com/video/XUs8YUF6QH0/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUlYnVkZ2V0IHZzIHByZW1pdW0gZWxlY3RyaWMgc2thdGVib2FyZA%3D%3D
Lycaon TRX 2.0! Eovan board! I'd like to see how they compare, I bet they'd outperform most, if not all of them. The Lycaon even has a good bit more torque than the Atlas.
I love Pegasus Fantasy! Goood fight match Well probably would be a more justice fight with a eovan gts pro and metroboard x are missing cause in terms of torque up hill the kally and lacroix belong to anothet leage
Gearing, wheel sizes, etc. are here: dkwan.com/reviews/uphill-stress-tests-exway-evolve-onsra-and-more/. I didn’t want to make this video too long and difficult to digest for my target viewers (beginners).
Bit longer would of been fine / better
To those who said Evolve would have done better on 6” wheels than it did here with 7”:
1. I agree, but we didn’t have 6” Evolve wheels and the other smaller wheels we tried didn’t fit Evolve’s pulleys, and their equivalent pulleys didn’t fit on Evolve either.
2. If we put 6” wheels on the Evolve to make things “fair”, we should put 6” wheels on the WowGo and Ownboard also. In this video, the WowGo and Ownboard had the same exact gearing and wheel size as Evolve and they would do better as well with 6” wheels. Evolve likely would still rank at the bottom with all the gearing and wheel sizes equal.
@@DanielKwan Yep. Not to mention the stock Evolve AT setup comes with 7" tires, 6" is an add on. Whilst with the Atlas, the stock AT setup is 6". So out the box, the evolve loses. Not that it matters, the evolve loses anyway 😂
Just what I was looking for! Thank you so much!
@@DanielKwan You did great with the wheel sizes because this is a stress test to really see the maximum gearing and wheel setups these boards can do.
Dude more videos like this please. Felt like top gear for electric boards.
Well said 🙌
I made the intro of this video! Thank you Danio, hope you guys enjoy it🔥
Loved it!!!
Incredible!
🔥🔥🔥
So good!
saint seiya fan here. love it.
“In case you were wondering. Yes, the Evolve was in custom mode, and had power dialed to maximum”
-Daniel Kwan, Eskate Batman, deliverer of justice
*Everybody liked that*
Yeah but your picking the 7s with the 66t
They are for off road.
More interesting to see the 6s with 47t
@@smwyler M8, you know having the 6 inch with 47t is geared for speed, not for torque right? which is what an uphill test needs? Kwan literally showed the best case scenario for Evolve by giving them the torque setup compared to the Exway, which has a slightly lower torque drive train setup. Had he used the 6 inch with 47t setup, the result would not have been 2 minutes, it would've been 10 years because god bless the souls of those poor motors for having to uphold the duty of that hill carrying Tilo's ampleness ;)
@@stealther1401 have both sets, 6s and 7s.
From the bottom of a hill to the top, 6s go up faster. If you can get to a faster speed at the start of the hill you will get to the top faster than on the 7s. You might go slower at the steep part a bit more but you will do the rest faster on the 6s than 7s due to getting to a higher top speed. Often ride with others that use the 7s, got to be really steep for the 6s to struggle. U put the 6s on the 66t and it’s totally different again.
@@smwyler I didn't hit 35kph anyways up that hill so 6s wouldn't have done much better
I wonder what average eskate will say about this 🤣
Cancelling my Evolve GTR order right now!!!
this video is soooo fake and a revenge to the "chinaboard exway comparison" Evolve was posting .dont let this communist fool you : )))))
Evolve has a support center almost everywhere on this planet ;) no other brand can do that for you !
@@endlesssummerproduction you do know Evolve boards are also manufactured in China right....? so it is also a "Chinaboard". Cheers!!
@@joseesteves1309 buy one and find it out the hard way about support :p i only can recommend to do some research before you belive this BS !!!!
@@endlesssummerproduction are you talking the piss with this support thing? Evolve have denied problems with there boards for years.with the gtx they never helped with any of the battery sag issues, they still think there remotes are good, they blame boards locking up on trigger values or stone's getting stuck in the belts I could go on and on.come on support my ass
@@endlesssummerproduction Lmao, nice try. Buy a hot garbage product because the CS is better? Give me a break, I can swap any part in minutes, and it's so simple a child could do it. Evolve was cool a couple years ago but they are behind now. Currently you are WAY better off to buy a < $1000 board, then use the savings to stock parts to keep it running for two or three thousand miles. Unless my deck breaks or my board catches fire, I have spares for everything. I won't have to miss a day of riding, and I haven't spent close to evolve money yet.
Wow, strange, it almost feels like evolve cheaps out on parts and pretends the board is premium... how bizarre...
this video is soooo fake and a revenge to the "chinaboard exway comparison" Evolve was posting . thats just bullshit. dont let this communist fool you : )))))
@@endlesssummerproduction do you own an evolve or are you just a fan boy? If you did own one you would know how cheap there remotes are and there are countless people making complaints of motors over heating and there boards locking up.
@@greencoxy on top of that he’s racist
@@endlesssummerproduction So you are just an evolve fanboy LMAO
@@greencoxy, Evolve's remotes for their older boards are junk. Their first generation remote is still the one I use with their Carbon GT.
As far as the motors go... it's difficult to fault the motors when they are sourced from the same Chinese sources that others source from.
So instead of honestly identifying WHAT Chinese manufacturer of motors should probably be avoided.. you decided to pin that on Evolve.
Evolve's biggest mistake was in using a Chinese engineering firm to make their deck. There design was immediately sold to others and knockoff boards appeared months after Evolve released their boards.
This...is the single biggest hurdle the Chinese will face as they attempt to enter the world market.
Until China can learn to play by the rules, you will continue to see backlash against your manufacturing practices.
The world isn't communist. IP does NOT belong to "the people". It isn't there to be shared openly until the company that developed it has an opportunity to gain revenue to cover development costs.
If this isn't maintained... then all innovation will cease.
It is for this reason that communism always fails.
*Easily one of the top esk8 videos on so many levels* 😂
I dont watch the shows the intro is based on but even I loved that intro 🔥
"Premium power" 😂🤣😭
The results really surprised me. Informative, funny and even the ad breaks were timed really well to break up the video. 👏🏼👏🏼
The world definitely needs another one of these for all the boards out right now!
im not gonna lie i laughed until i drop😂.. honestly im not mad😆 this i the best way to trash evolved....everytime they say "premium power" a tear drop everytime😂😂😂
very english
Top 10 anime intros. Also the 1:13 moment is pure gold, I am amazed by the quality and anime style in general. Should honestly use this as an intro for all your similar long vids.
Congrats to the editor! and obviously to the whole crew
Brilliant video Daniel! That intro was absolutely hilarious! In my opinion that was a well conducted and fair comparison of those boards. I have personally fried many Evolve motors climbing hills that other comparable boards would handle easily. Surely Evolve have recognised that this is a problem by now and will release a model with bigger motors soon. In Australia though, an Evolve GTR is actually cheaper than a 2WD Atlas, so the decision between the two is not as obvious. If your a lighter rider or don’t push it to the limit then a GTR could be perfect for you. On the other hand if you’re heavier or like the ride hard up hills then I’d go for an Atlas or something else.
As a DIYer I appreciate including the Trampa for the lolz, just to remind people what real power looks like :D
not to mention he didn't even came close to flooring the throttle, Tilo had his Battery at 100A and motors at 120A and never even came close to pressing the throttle half way down
@@stealther1401 haha yea been having issues with the unity lately tbh so didn't dare to go full power in case of a cutout 🤦
Pig ugly though, and heavy AF.
@@alexanderturl i agree, ill sacrifice a couple mph for a board that was made correctly and not handmade myself following a youtube DIY that will also be heavy and look super ugly compared to the sleek designs of companies that have design teams etc.
@@loganmatthewolson99 it all depends on use case, budget and if what you want is even available commercially, and while it's difficult you can most definitely make a DIY board look nice.
PREMIUM POWER!!!
😂
Ferrari of esk8 boards!
I'm just baffled how evolve is still in business
People that don't have issues stay quiet. People that do speak up. It's confirmation bias.
Dan the man ! this has to be your best production yet, I would love to see what my Lacroix Nazare would do on that hill, nice video.
Should be pretty close to the Trampa; I'm running 100a (total) battery and 120A per motor on it with a unity. The naz runs less than that but it'll still be far ahead of the production boards tho
you should do one of these videos every generation of boards, like with the new hammer sledge, hurricane, hadean or zeus pro.
love the content man
I'm really looking forward to see how evolve performed in this battle😜😜
Probably badly compared to the line up damn
Even worse when you include price and the fact you cannot upgrade it. The Atlas 2wd might be about the same price but you can upgrade it and has a larger battery.
How does the bibuff stack up to the others?
Bit of an unfair test really.
Hope D does a off road test on the same gearing
@@smwyler I would say more fair than the test Evolve did with the Exway flex in safe mode.
You can fry an egg with them Evolve motors 😂🤣
Might aswell be true cuz I remember climbing up hills with the GTR and the motors almost burned my hand with how hot they became.
Props on the hilarious intro. I had to pause and confirm I was indeed reading random foods in as the credits XD
🔥 I love the opening sequence. Huge thumbs up from Japan. 👍👍👍
OK what kind of person dislikes a video before it has been premiered?
Evolve :D
Evolve fans probably
Evolve brainwashed fanboys.
Evolve
Someone that was very impatient?
Wtffff that intro was fireeeee
This was a very good video. Thanks for doing it. I like to see boards put up against each other and their performances. Do more!
Would love to see more of the 2wd Atlas. Range and speed tests next. I think the 2wd with 105 Cloudwheels would be a perfect commuter.
Was so excited to watch this, and wasn't disappointed in the slightest! And btw, if the Exway Atlas 2WD performs that well, can you imagine what the 4WD is like? I don't consider the Atlas to be overpriced at all.
Thanks for the exway ad!
I have the exway wave riot and it preforms spectacularly on hills, can't imagine the atlas 2w not to mention the 4wd. The next board I get will be the atlas 4wd. I wish I didn't spend so7ch money on all of teamgees garbage boards. The only good one was the h20 mini and that was after replaci g the battery twice on a brand new board. Every other teamgee board I've had(which is all of them) broke in under a year. If I would have known more in my early Esk8 days I would have started with Exway!!!!🤕
can u guys pls find a way to post this in evolve fan page??
Copy. Paste
You missed one of the most important boards in the sub 2000$ price range, the Eovan GTS Carbon Pro...
It's equipped with a vesc, meaning it can utilize higher battery amps. That would be unfair against the boards using hobbywing esc, which is comparatively weaker, and some of these boards are 10s rather than 12s. Then you can just bump up your motor amps even higher on the eovan, making it even more unfair
@@langcheng5443 ...how is it unfair. The Exway Atlas and evolve gtr are competing in the same price range as the Eovan. I guess that it's only unfair because its simply better than the other two like the Trampa that they threw in there as a joke so i see your point👍
@@langcheng5443 it's really not unfair. Same price category. Parts doesn't matter.
They probably didn't have it
Agree - would have been nice to see how it did with it’s VESC setup.
Motor Temp Listed in Speed Order
Exway 28.5
Onsra 22
Bibuff 31
Ownboard 25
Verreal 23
Wowgo 21
Evolve 43
The Exway also did the double pull while managing to hit only 41. The Evolve overheated. Would of liked to see the forgotten temp for the Onsra (only 6368 tested) but it made the run ok. Also curious that the Bibuff died.
No Eovan?
That opening alone has me wanting to like and subscribe
Im hyped af bc i finally got my Wowgo AT2 and i wanna know how it performs in comparison to all other awesome AT boards. Bless you guys for making this video!!!!
I've been a proud owner of an AT2 for 4 months, and I always thought I made a great deal! But after watching this video I'm not so sure anymore :-D
@@mckdoeful Do you enjoy the board?? If YES then that is what matters. Ive had ny AT2 under a month and i love it. Then again, im half a century old..... :)
AT2 is still great!
1. AT2 had the exact same gearing and wheel size as the Evolve and still outperformed it.
2. AT2 is the only board other than Atlas in this lineup that can be turned on with the remote. Sounds like a silly feature but the ones that don’t have that feel a bit behind the times just because of that.
3. I was actually surprised the AT2 ranked below Ownboard since they are using the same battery and motors and wheel size. Guess the difference is in the ESC but I would still prefer WowGo’s ESC over most of the others’.
@@DanielKwan Awesome!! That is great to hear from someone whos tested so many boards. I just hope that whenever the wowgo at3 comes out its gonna keep everything the AT2 has but a loot more powerfull top speeds that would put it at the top of all i think. :D
@@jimzplace yes, it's a good board and I'm using it daily whenever the streets are dry.
Opening song was so dope, that I had to press Like even before I have even seen the "real" content :D
I was a proud owner of an Evolve gtr bamboo 😢
thinking of actually selling my evolve bamboo gtr lol. what do you think is the perfect replacement board?
@@gialongtonthat5404 maybe Unknownboard. I am waiting on reviews. Onsra black carve 2 has amazing specs but might be too stiff for me
@@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco don't get unknownboard. I can teach you to build the same thing with half the price they sell it for. I really hate to say it but Chris and Ricky are in it for money now instead of "average eskate reviews". SMH.
@@gialongtonthat5404 Build your own if you are willing to experiment a little bit, otherwise buy either the Atlas or Onsra, do NOT buy VESC boards yourself as it is very likely they cheaped out on the ESC.
@@stealther1401 in my dreams Evolve upgrades batteries and motors to new standards ...i love the flex of tbe deck en carving feel, not sure why all the others make stiff decks recently.
Amazing production, wish there would be more boards but it's understandable that there's a budget and time limit. Great battle!
Dude, your editing continues to improve and your approach is always evolving. I love your content. This was a great video. I especially loved the effort you went to with the intro song in the beginning. Well done!
Missing the Lycaon TRX on this, I guess the verreal is similar
Love that intro! You’re really growing into a great story teller!!!
Daniel a fantastic video as always this is defo one of your best!
So far only one evolve fan or technician dislike the video. Hahaha. Hope your return policy still active.lolwell yhe number whent up to 18, thats about the entire staff.lmbo.
I just ordered an Exway atlas because of you ☺️ thank you for these videos
I'm dyinggg to see this even though it omits Eovan GTS Carbon Pro, that would seem like the most obvious competitor for Atlas 2WD at the moment.
i heard some QC issues with their board because the vesc they used were the same as boundmotor's, which isn't very reliable at all.
Exactly what I'm thinking!
@Emma Johansson that's why I didn't get the Atlas...
Eovan should up their accessory range, to at least to include some mudguards. Then there's of course the elephant in the room, being the 4WD option for Atlas. The Eovan wheels seem super nice. I think I might hog them for my Miles Phantom if my spouse ends up ordering the Eovan. 🙊
Of course I mean the airless rubber wheels with aluminum core.
Awesome video - any chance on an updated version of this with the Exway X1 Max Riot and Meepo Hurricane.
This is one of the most premium hilarious DKwan video I have ever seen 😂
Will the Eovan GTS Carbon pro be reviewed anytime soon?
They didn’t reply to me
Jay Boston has left the chat and hopefully universe.
Again, that video wasn’t Jay’s fault.
@@ajplant96 yes it was he should have never handed a prototype board to evolve.he made a mistake simple as that
@@Debodegacat He definitely made a mistake there, but, I wouldn’t pin him for what came next. Everybody knows that Matty’s bitter and twisted about anything that isn’t Evolve, he had the thought at the time that Jay had that board but would’ve done it either way with another board.
To be fair... The Evolve GTR is the oldest of all these boards, and the other ones are ALL just inspired by Evolve!
Evolve was leading the way back then and did all the work in terms of research and design.
It's not a secret anymore that it is no longer state of the art these days and I have always questioned its "AT-suitability". IMHO it only shines as a street carver with 32 teeth and streetwheels.
Yes all these clones and copies are better, but what's about customer service? Most of them SUCK in terms of customer service and that's what makes the difference in the end.
Nice video, btw!
I second that. I'm still riding my GT and was lucky to have support as I live in Cologne near Düsseldorf, where Evolve resides. Much of the price is due to 2 year warranty without any questions. In that time I got new wheels, new ESC and new BMS for free. Me and a friend of mine own China boards (Meepo) too. One truck broke, remote batteries are dead after a year, BMS defective. These are additional costs which may be overlooked in the first place. All companies cook with water, everything may brake sooner or later, but for now with my experience I'd rather choose warranty over lowest price. I'm sure Daniel would get new motors for free from Evolve, even after a year riding.
@@eboardcologne I have a backfire ranger x1 that i bought for 600 euro on a kickstarter. That board has now done over 6000km and Backfire has replaced every single part for free.
@@eboardcologne sadly here in China where evolve doesn't have customers service we're forced to go though friends in locations with evolve and buy motors out of warranty then ship them back (est 100quid a motor) since evolve will only maintain the if you ship the board at your own cost to and fro thier repair shops
@@tzdkb well, if I lived in China, there would be no reason for me to buy an Evolve 😂 for Europe the Chinese market is good if you don't rely on warranty, add future costs in mind and/or can handle very long shipping times. As I said, I'm lucky to have the Evolve department 30km away from me. And I can drink a coffee while waiting for things to get replaced. I'm willing to pay some money extra for this.
THAT INTRO SLAPS SO HARD
I see, so Daniel is gonna become an eskate otaku now...
this was a video I was waiting for you to do ! thansk Daniel
Bro these intros are unmatched
And daniel the way you segway to you sponsors/affiliate is so smooth. Nice intro btw its like initial d.🚓🚗
Wish we could get another Uphill battle video like this in 2024.
Daaamn, you had to put the Saint Seiya sound-alike OP for this vid !
That's some OP opening, right there, to pump us all up right from the get go !
This is so wild, Tilo is the first person i have ever seen with the same name as me!
It would have been a great apportunity to see how the Atlas 2wd compares to Eovan carbon, which is it's closest competitor in my opinion...
Yeah but they didn’t respond to me or didn’t get my message 🤷♂️
@@DanielKwan I really hope that they'll send you one soon👍great video nonetheless and that intro 🔥 legend!
@@DanielKwan who did you reach out to at Eovan? Surprised to hear they did not respond. I know they are servicing a lot of demand at the moment (took 5 weeks for my board from order to shipping) but Jason their marketing man is always helpful and responsive. I pinged him and he said he had not heard from you personally - DM me on Instagram and I can hook you up.
@@markrobbins3357 I used their website’s contact form. What’s your IG? My DM requests are turned off. Can also reach me thru my website dkwan.com/contact.
I see allot of used Evolve boards for sale after this video! Great video btw!
Missed out on trx 2.0 because I just got one put 300kms.on it now, quicker than bamboo gtr and more. Fun imo cheaper. Better wand and battery. Wish trx2.0 was here as well. As the m24 ecomobl
I remember watching this vid quite a long time ago. Later I got my Ownboard W2 Pro , sold it, and I'm looking forward to getting my Atlas Carbon 2WD
All the boards in your test were belt drive. I must avoid belt drive as I can’t replace the belts by myself. Maxfind hub motor is my choice too so I bought one M6 DIY KIT- $799. IT is installed to the retired Aston blinks 2 deck. It’s my favorite too. It’s two rear wheel hub motor drive. My M24 ecomobl is about $2000 after discount code is so heavy and I love my M24 so much ! M24 runs marvelously in grasslands 👍👍👍. Thank you - DK 🙏🙏🙏
Maybe you learn 🤷♂️
Well, the results don't lie. Seems like Evolve is dead or murdered by default. Specs does matter if you really know what it means. Exway's technical design of the ATLAS is really hard to defeat (commercial & economic aspects) for now.
So you are like deep into the e skate community I’m just starting, but I’m very curious what you think about the propel 2 pro, I just bought one , haven’t used it yet , and am apprehensive to use it as I can’t return it once I do, I’ve heard it’s great but then I hear it’s gutless up hills , what do you think of it? I definitely want the off road capability but not if it can’t get me up good little hills, what is your true opinion?
Do they not have a function to shut them off when they reach a certain critical temperature? or at the very least decrease the power similar to how a CPU would in a computer
hey Daniel i bought a wave with cloudwheels 105mm. the battery indicator from 35% drops to 15% in no time. i have 3 batteries. they all behave the same. u mentioned they were super accurate with the%?
I have an Exway wave with the same issue, I have been reading a few posts about it and apparently exway is going to be releasing a firmware update soon that will improve the accuracy.
That intro was awesome! I have a wowgoat2 and I'm not even mad 😄
Really nice tests. It seems that you really enjoy Evolve-Bashing - I think besides that there was no point to use the Evolve in the second test, because the result of the first test was already very poor ;-)
Considering the bigger battery capacity, the Onsra Black Carve 2 seem to be a very nice option. Could you please provide a table with all results on your homepage for easy lookup? Thanks.
Love it. PREMIUM POWER!!!!
This was a really great video. And an awesome intro!
My poor DIY board can barely start from flat without a push, this is pushing me closer to more and more upgrades
Can you review the Lycaon TRX 2.0?
What about one of the most sold? The Backfire Ranger X2,3 ...Would have been interesting to see..
That anime intro was FIRE
I just got the exway atlas 4 motor board but the remote won't connect to the app can you please help?
You did a great job on testing e boards with rear wheel drives. I just got M24 ecomobl e board with all 4 wheel gear drive , all 4 wheel independent suspensions and all 4 wheel brakes. The M24 is so solid and powerful that I feel the boards I saw in your videos were boys toys 😀. Well , here I suggest that you test M24 , bajaboard, bio boards of the all four wheel gear drive and compare the relative endurance of the three all wheel gear drive boards 🙏. Thank you !
Great idea to make this test happen! Really helping me decide! In the Market for 2 more boards. AT and street.
Awesome video!!!! It was very entertaining and interesting to watch!!!
Awesome video. Great work on the documentation
Help!!! I am looking to buy an all terrain board, and I hear everyone hate on double kingpin struts. But, after watching numerous videos, I have not found any that were not double kingpin. What are the options? I was thinking Atlas, but that one has double kingpin too. Thanks in advance
Is ther eany Video comparing all those Bamboo Boards in the Point of Riding comfort, Carving Stability, Acceleration Smoothness. I mean its fun to see a Test like that. but its a very "specific" Test where ti find a general comparison that could help you deciding which Board to buy? We have no E-Skate Store here. So i have no Option then to take all Infos out of the Web and hope im lucky and pick the right one. But in 90% of all Videos its only about Max. Speed and stuff and not so often about the Riding feeling or how hoisy a board is. Greets From Spain!
Great video! I am definitely getting one of those jackets -lazy rolling
that intro fucking slaps. I love it. 💯
I recently picked up the backfire g3 and enskate r3 longboard there quite fun
Great videos man, subscribed and liked. Are you guys from China?
super interesting test, thank you
OUTSTANDING Compro!
How does the Atlas compare to the Onsra Black Carve 2 in terms of range and also overall size? I am having a hard time deciding which one to choose!
For more stability is that possible to add a handlebar with the remote included with all led lights possible ?
Exway decided to bend Evolve over and then give them the D... with a higher quality board which is also cheaper XD.
For those who didn't know, Evolve made fun of Exway and uploaded the video on youtube. The board they used from Exway was not all terrain, was on beginner mode and was pre production testing unit.
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Did BiBuff Board go out of business, their website is no longer active?
This was a great video. I'd love to see a "battle of the shortboards" versions, and another one that focuses on electric street longboards. (:
How is it possible that the exway Atlas 2WD with 4240 motors beats the 6368 motor setup from the onsra?
great video you should do comparison of the onsra black carve and the exway atlas in 90mm or 100mm street wheels
Lycaon TRX 2.0! Eovan board! I'd like to see how they compare, I bet they'd outperform most, if not all of them. The Lycaon even has a good bit more torque than the Atlas.
I love Pegasus Fantasy! Goood fight match Well probably would be a more justice fight with a eovan gts pro and metroboard x are missing cause in terms of torque up hill the kally and lacroix belong to anothet leage
Great way to work in the adds ,so tempted by the wowgo and onsra
Great vid, can you do this for budget boards.
intro is hella money
Have you ever taken that backpack on a plane? And I just ordered the Exway Atlas 4wd - can’t wait !
And thank you and your bro and friends for making awesome videos..
This test is legit. Full premium!
Need more like this man 🙌🏾