Hi Ive just stumbled across your channel, and being late 50's,and just booked my CBT, I am pleased to see your reviews of learner legal bikes that arent budget busters. Keep up the good work.
It would be really useful if you mentioned service intervals in these reviews, the old terrain had really short 1200 mile intervals but I understand the new Terrain has longer ones, cost of running the things seems to be left out of most TH-cam channels reviews.
These, in my opinion, are nice looking bikes. When you were out on it, wide shot, with the white bike and silver boxes, and your white helmet, it definitely gave off police bike vibes. I I guess that’s because it looks similar to the Honda NC750P which is a police bike I see out a lot at the moment where I live. Great review, videos constantly improving.
Appreciate you doing this review! I'm the opposite being 6' 5" and new. I've not managed to find a 'newer' 125cc motorcycle that's anywhere near this bike's size. It seems to be the best option out there?
@@maskedavenger2578 the brakes are linked anyway so there is no opportunity to learn individual brake use, most 125's are set this way nowadays, and speaking as someone who has a 125 with linked brakes and no abs I would definitely pay a few extra quid for abs.
@@maskedavenger2578 i run a 2003 honda varadero 125. And to be fair its amazing for what it is, that thing sits at 70mph all day.. and pulls realy well.. i am just looking for a second bike. Was thinking zontes. But not shure on reliability? Maybe an aprilia rx for a bit of green laning to.. i had a 2018 sinnis terrain and i didnt like it one bit. Underpowerd to the point it was dangerous and to many breakdowns.. build quality was shocking.. dont no if its improved any now???
Hello, I have a question about my crash helmet, do you have any remedy for the helmet slipping down over my vision, the foam inside has obviously worn, causing this to happen. A balaclava maybe?
Hi, Maybe a balaclava will help. However if you can afford it, maybe £60-£70 I would get another helmet as it seems it is too big to be effective and a balaclava will not be nice during the summer.
Another great review mr boss! Shame we also don’t get these here in Aus but at 125cc these won’t sell well since here is a bigger island & a scooter is better around town. I think the zontes looks & sounds better
Check out the Cyclone RX motorcycles, they are sold in Australia, by a company called CSC Motorcycles apparently. The Sinnis Terrain is based on the Cyclone RX1 (euro 5 might be based on the RX1S I don’t know). There is also the Cyclone RX3, and RX4 which have bigger engines. I think Sinnis also import one of those as their 380 model.
What Zontes model are you refering? About the Sinnis, the original brand is Zongshen and it is rebranded all over the world (Vortex in Portugal, Macbor in Spain, etc...)
Is the newly released motron x-nord 125 basically the same machine? Not released in UK yet, but I'm in Spain and can't get sinnis here, so if it's basically KSR (Motron) copy of Sinnis, I'd be interested.
Any chance you could do a review of 125 scooters for the short.? I'm thinking of doing a CBT, but being only a shade over 5ft...(155cm).I have concerns that pretty much anything I like the look of will be just to big. Being able to properly touch the ground for a beginner is essential. I get annoy when folks in videos say "if your short like 5ft 7/8..you'll be ok"... 5ft 7/8 is NOT short!
Hi, just for info, my wife had the same worries, and is just tipping 5ft, but has no problems riding a Honda pcx 125. Trick is not to focus on trying to touch the floor with both feet at same time, you simply use one foot (left normally) to take the weight. My wife is mid 40s only weighs 8stone, and has no issues.
@@garethadamson2393 Thank You Gareth for your reply. I lost my partner to cancer in 2017 and have been suffering depression. i was hoping to maybe get a scooter to get out as I have no friends so don't get out unless it's for a walk or shopping. I was thinking a 125 would get me out and distract me by visiting places beyond just a walk away. But I lack confidence as my health is not great. I am (was) used to holding up a weight with my left foot as we used to ride a tandem and I would hold the bike up at the lights etc..so know what you mean.
Waited for this release for a long time, if anything the video has made it even more likely one will be joining the stable in the foreseeable. There's no SInnis dealer in the local area, going a fair way for initial purchase is not a concern but do Sinnis allow a local registered bike dealer to carry out scheduled services so as to keep any warranty? A bit dubious about the bedraggled squirrel under your bottom lip though.
Old one was dangerously underpowerd even for a 125. I had to sell mine n get an old honda vara i just couldnt live with it day to day.. honda is fine more than enough power n reliability..
Nice review, sounds like a sprocket change might be needed for better cruising. Be nice to find out the actual top speed, to get an idea of a comfortable cruising speed. Sorry old bean but on a personal note, not keen on the direction that the beard is going, looking a bit like last years hanging basket!
@@motorsforthemasses sorry my bad I thought you said 56, but 60 is still a big difference from 70. Some people would choose a different bike because that. Why would Sinnis not say its true potential? I'm 13st if that makes a difference. P.s. you are the reason a have the t125. I first came across your video of the 2017 model and I finally decided to get one and I gets an upgrade.
@@maskedavenger2578 I know, they are partners with Hyundai now. It's a 70y old company and generally they are one step above Chinese bikes. But for now the are offering only 2 geared bikes in Europe. They would make big impact with 400cc version of NHT and to bring back old Wolf model because people now love retro.
@@maskedavenger2578 also for which market. For example, I've heard good thing about Lexmoto for UK. Here in Montenegro they are called Peda and they are crap.
@@maskedavenger2578 yes many Sinnis and Lexmoto bikes are sold under different names worldwide. The Terrain is known as the Cyclone RX1 (and RX3, RX4, RX6 for bigger engines) elsewhere and is manufactured by Zongshen. They also bring in the same bikes under different names, the Lexmoto Michigan and Sinnis Hoodlum are both the same bike, the Zongshen RA1.
Had two of these piles of shit. Taking delivery of a Yamaha MT 125 in November. I’ll never ever buy Chinese crap again. No end of bother. Bearings don’t last a year. Buyer beware.
Am I wrong?? But isn’t this bike going to be a pile of shit in a short while?? A guy I know bought a Keeway 125, lasted under a year. Same sort of quality. I personally would touch it with a barge pole.
As said many many times before, a lot of these bikes are down to how they are looked after and treated. I know of 3 year old Terrains, used daily that still look as good as new. I know of 2010 Keeway Superlights that still shine and still work perfectly...Sadly as they are cheaper than the main Japanese brands (despite them being made anywhere except Japan, including China); they tend to get abused and not maintained/serviced as they should be.
That back top box is perfect for carrying a drone and doubles up as a take off and landing pad 👍
Good point!
Video production getting better every time. Top review
Thank you
Hi Ive just stumbled across your channel, and being late 50's,and just booked my CBT, I am pleased to see your reviews of learner legal bikes that arent budget busters. Keep up the good work.
Welcome to the bike world...and thank you
It would be really useful if you mentioned service intervals in these reviews, the old terrain had really short 1200 mile intervals but I understand the new Terrain has longer ones, cost of running the things seems to be left out of most TH-cam channels reviews.
I will look to incorporate these in future. Thank you for the feedback.
It takes 1 litre of oil and anyone can do it literally out in the elements in less than 10 minutes
These, in my opinion, are nice looking bikes. When you were out on it, wide shot, with the white bike and silver boxes, and your white helmet, it definitely gave off police bike vibes. I I guess that’s because it looks similar to the Honda NC750P which is a police bike I see out a lot at the moment where I live.
Great review, videos constantly improving.
Now we are talking, but still, would like it better when they use the allowed 15 horsepower to its fullest to make more torque. Because i'm heavy.
Appreciate you doing this review! I'm the opposite being 6' 5" and new. I've not managed to find a 'newer' 125cc motorcycle that's anywhere near this bike's size. It seems to be the best option out there?
Yamaha MT 125 is bigger and definitely more reliable.
The lxr euro 5 is ideal for tall riders. That's 820mm seat height.
Shame Sinnis didn't add ABS braking...£85 for a bigger plastic box, lol...Zontes are the better deal now :-)
@@maskedavenger2578 the brakes are linked anyway so there is no opportunity to learn individual brake use, most 125's are set this way nowadays, and speaking as someone who has a 125 with linked brakes and no abs I would definitely pay a few extra quid for abs.
I agree zontes are way above in quality, looks and performance.
@@maskedavenger2578 i run a 2003 honda varadero 125. And to be fair its amazing for what it is, that thing sits at 70mph all day.. and pulls realy well.. i am just looking for a second bike. Was thinking zontes. But not shure on reliability? Maybe an aprilia rx for a bit of green laning to.. i had a 2018 sinnis terrain and i didnt like it one bit. Underpowerd to the point it was dangerous and to many breakdowns.. build quality was shocking.. dont no if its improved any now???
How many miles until it's run in please sir?
much better with commentary
Yes we like this one a lot Great reviews,I would be very happy with the top box .
Hello, I have a question about my crash helmet, do you have any remedy for the helmet slipping down over my vision, the foam inside has obviously worn, causing this to happen. A balaclava maybe?
Hi, Maybe a balaclava will help. However if you can afford it, maybe £60-£70 I would get another helmet as it seems it is too big to be effective and a balaclava will not be nice during the summer.
Another great review mr boss! Shame we also don’t get these here in Aus but at 125cc these won’t sell well since here is a bigger island & a scooter is better around town. I think the zontes looks & sounds better
Check out the Cyclone RX motorcycles, they are sold in Australia, by a company called CSC Motorcycles apparently. The Sinnis Terrain is based on the Cyclone RX1 (euro 5 might be based on the RX1S I don’t know). There is also the Cyclone RX3, and RX4 which have bigger engines. I think Sinnis also import one of those as their 380 model.
What Zontes model are you refering? About the Sinnis, the original brand is Zongshen and it is rebranded all over the world (Vortex in Portugal, Macbor in Spain, etc...)
very good videos wonering how he filming was done in sky when turning
drone
Is the newly released motron x-nord 125 basically the same machine? Not released in UK yet, but I'm in Spain and can't get sinnis here, so if it's basically KSR (Motron) copy of Sinnis, I'd be interested.
Oui la même en Espagne et en France motron x-nort 125
I am about 6 foot 2/3. Do you Think a This is too small for me? Great video btw!
The bike is big enough but the seat height may be slightly low for you.
Fantastic review. Cheers mate.
Any chance you could do a review of 125 scooters for the short.? I'm thinking of doing a CBT, but being only a shade over 5ft...(155cm).I have concerns that pretty much anything I like the look of will be just to big. Being able to properly touch the ground for a beginner is essential. I get annoy when folks in videos say "if your short like 5ft 7/8..you'll be ok"... 5ft 7/8 is NOT short!
Hi, just for info, my wife had the same worries, and is just tipping 5ft, but has no problems riding a Honda pcx 125. Trick is not to focus on trying to touch the floor with both feet at same time, you simply use one foot (left normally) to take the weight. My wife is mid 40s only weighs 8stone, and has no issues.
@@garethadamson2393 Thank You Gareth for your reply. I lost my partner to cancer in 2017 and have been suffering depression. i was hoping to maybe get a scooter to get out as I have no friends so don't get out unless it's for a walk or shopping. I was thinking a 125 would get me out and distract me by visiting places beyond just a walk away. But I lack confidence as my health is not great. I am (was) used to holding up a weight with my left foot as we used to ride a tandem and I would hold the bike up at the lights etc..so know what you mean.
Have they sorted out the top-end rev's now?. The old one seemed to run out at 60mph near the red line
erm....need a sprocket change for better top end
No power to make a diferance! With the old aircooled unit.
Waited for this release for a long time, if anything the video has made it even more likely one will be joining the stable in the foreseeable. There's no SInnis dealer in the local area, going a fair way for initial purchase is not a concern but do Sinnis allow a local registered bike dealer to carry out scheduled services so as to keep any warranty?
A bit dubious about the bedraggled squirrel under your bottom lip though.
A service can be carried out by a franchised registered garage as long as they can stamp the book.
Check out the service intervals oh dear
Any more new liquid cooled Sinnis bikes coming out?
The new euro 5 lxr is
@@Dxmta Thanks.
The new lexmoto LXR and LXS. Zontes U1. Loads
@@JDMz Thanks.
Old model 11.2HP/150Kg; New model 12.7HP/162Kg -> The new model is slightly better
Old one was dangerously underpowerd even for a 125. I had to sell mine n get an old honda vara i just couldnt live with it day to day.. honda is fine more than enough power n reliability..
Nice review, sounds like a sprocket change might be needed for better cruising. Be nice to find out the actual top speed, to get an idea of a comfortable cruising speed.
Sorry old bean but on a personal note, not keen on the direction that the beard is going, looking a bit like last years hanging basket!
Camera takes the blonde bits...looks weird on camera
Those boxes look a bit silly when so small
They should put this engine in an apache or blade
I like it.
You can't possbly carry out a proper roadtest on an un-run-in engine!
...and what other choice is there?
Mine does 70mph so 56mph is a load of rubbish.
Who said 56?
@@motorsforthemasses sorry my bad I thought you said 56, but 60 is still a big difference from 70. Some people would choose a different bike because that. Why would Sinnis not say its true potential? I'm 13st if that makes a difference.
P.s. you are the reason a have the t125. I first came across your video of the 2017 model and I finally decided to get one and I gets an upgrade.
Sinnis and Zontes are constantly improving Keeway and Sym must step up
@@maskedavenger2578 I know, they are partners with Hyundai now. It's a 70y old company and generally they are one step above Chinese bikes. But for now the are offering only 2 geared bikes in Europe. They would make big impact with 400cc version of NHT and to bring back old Wolf model because people now love retro.
@@maskedavenger2578 also for which market. For example, I've heard good thing about Lexmoto for UK. Here in Montenegro they are called Peda and they are crap.
@@maskedavenger2578 yes many Sinnis and Lexmoto bikes are sold under different names worldwide. The Terrain is known as the Cyclone RX1 (and RX3, RX4, RX6 for bigger engines) elsewhere and is manufactured by Zongshen. They also bring in the same bikes under different names, the Lexmoto Michigan and Sinnis Hoodlum are both the same bike, the Zongshen RA1.
Had two of these piles of shit.
Taking delivery of a Yamaha MT 125 in November.
I’ll never ever buy Chinese crap again. No end of bother. Bearings don’t last a year.
Buyer beware.
White lacey thong ....you mind that chafing.
I really like your videos, down to earth, but what’s going on with that beard? You’re one fishing rod away from a garden gnome.
It's the camera, only picks out the grey....will put close up pick on Facebook page.
Am I wrong?? But isn’t this bike going to be a pile of shit in a short while??
A guy I know bought a Keeway 125, lasted under a year.
Same sort of quality.
I personally would touch it with a barge pole.
As said many many times before, a lot of these bikes are down to how they are looked after and treated. I know of 3 year old Terrains, used daily that still look as good as new. I know of 2010 Keeway Superlights that still shine and still work perfectly...Sadly as they are cheaper than the main Japanese brands (despite them being made anywhere except Japan, including China); they tend to get abused and not maintained/serviced as they should be.
As I’ve always said, many times before, don’t buy crap.
You can’t polish a turd.
@@Nivacromcolumbus You can polish a turd and 2nd market for good brands is full of turds.
First baby 👊