For the benchmarks like Fortnite, you should probably cap the FPS to limit the bottleneck and explain why so people aren’t put off by lower end hardware. A friend of mine ran an i5-6600 and a 1050 Ti for a good while and the 60FPS cap was a godsend for CPU intensive games. People who are buying these PCs probably have a 60-75Hz monitor anyway, so it only makes sense
yep.. should almost always have a global FPS cap ~3 fps lower than your monitors max refresh rate at the used resolution, and then turn off vsync individually in all games
Love all your videos. I myself just bought a used, in great shape, lenovo erasure gaming pc off ebay with an i5 8 gen. cpu, 32 gigs of ddr4 ram, a 1 tb crucial ssd, and a 2tb sata storage drive, and an nvidia 1660 ti video card for $129 + $25 ground shipping. People are selling stuff dirt cheap just to pay high rent and put food in their mouths.
These are some of my favorite builds to do. We can all assemble a PC with all brand new parts, but this takes some skill. Whether or not it looks good is a different story 😅
The president of the USA has a red telephone, you have a red computer! So you are totaly there. You guys made it!! Highly probable that the 2 X 2GB sticks slow down everything. The timing is not matching with the 2 X 8 GB sticks.
@@catraaa5261 It wouldn't even hold back anything if they are speed matched. If they aren't speedmatched then they will run at the speed of the slowest ram installed. Considering the motherboard and the cpu they are probably already running as fast as they can.
I think they sell stuff on etsy too, also $220 is not that cheap for those kinds of parts. I sold my spare old PC about two years ago with almost the same specs except it had a 960 instead of a 1050, and I sold it for like $130
Newbs ain't never seen a frankenstein PC. This was thrown together from dumpster quality parts just to make a buck. I've found similar specs in the dump.
For the looks of it and the price tag, the guy is working volume. You can't complain about this build, you get what you pay for. And it has an upgrade path for cheap, tucking an i7 7700 in will make it decent.
I would not consider it safe, long term, to put a magnet on a SSD. Regardless of whether it has DRAM cache, magnets could impact data being written and read from the chips on the drive, depending on the strength of the magnet.
Lenovo case, HP PSU and mobo, antec & be-quiet fans, Thermaltake cooler, mis-matched ram, random generic Chinese SSD... REEEEKing of cheap red paint... What is this build... what does this persons inventory look like? The laminated pages are the most professional things about the build
good of you to help out, but whenever there's a memory in question I doubt magnets help. I wouldn't have magnet near RAM sticks personally, even though it can't really damage it. it's just my thing. might be the cause of slow downloads tho. because peak speed was shown at 300+ Mbps and then it dropped to 19.8 also Steam cache on a local network wouldn't hurt.
It was more than just a can of paint. And even if it was a can of paint you have to clean, and sand, and paint. They also added led strips, fans, they did the weird stuff with the front panel IO replaced with a different front panel IO that was mounted internally and had leads to that weird thing attached to the front of the case. There wasn't any cutting involved so I wouldn't say it's extensively. But it was certainly not just custom painted. It's a modded case for sure.
That is how we modded 286´s. With a can of paint and AND an angle grinder. The glass we found on the streets. The end of the 90´s and 00´s were the craziest though. I even put windows in cd writers, so you could see them spin.
Thanks for all the testing that u always do I had a budget of 400 dollars and u guys helped me find out how to play games in that budget thanks so much toaster :)
This is the kind of frankenstein custom pc I like to see. The HP mobo/PSU inside a Lenovo case, with a BeQuiet fan, red led fan, and the random ass front i/o on the bottom of the chassis. Is this what meth does to a pc builder?
The I219-LM is a 1Gb network adapter so it should have been able to do close to 100MB/s assuming you have fiber. I assume since you run a pc building company, you know how to check the adapter properties to ensure the nic is negotiating at 1Gbps instead of 100Mbps but to be fair, a non tech user isn't going to know how to do that so if that was the issue, it wouldn't be obvious to the user. You could also check your rj45 cables to make sure you aren't using an older cat rated cable.
Would that borked ram configuration hurt the downloading speeds? If the cpu memory controller is stuttering out would that cripple the cpu's ability to negotiate downloading? Or maybe the storage is like some fake ssd ?
if you're wondering about the issue with the magnets on the ssd? SSD's are not effected by magnets that I know about, the one thing you gotta really protect against magnets are mechanical hard drives, as they can can become magnetized and be damaged as they have moving parts, and that can get stuck to the disk and scratch it to all heck, and it's going to lose your data, where as SSD's does not have any moving parts to get stuck to and damage one another, so that's why they did it, because they knew it won't damage it, but I do agree, the network on this thing is kinda bad, you're better off just getting a usb wifi receiver and going off of that, and/or maybe go direct wired connection to the eithernet to boost internet speeds. and I also agree that yes, fps capping it is an ABSOLUTE must lest you end up with gpu lag up the wazoo.
honestly it's a nice project build. The future owner should scrap that motherboard though and the power supply, I bet the cpu was being held back by the terrible vrm, it would also allow you to overclock the gpu and cpu and eek out some extra performance of this aged relic.
I am curious to how it would have performed with an upgraded network card. I imagine playing online games was drastically affected by the network capabilities or therefore lack of.
So long ago someone with little money wanted to BOTH play esports and pimp out his rig - I liked the paint job and making the most of what’s practically free In a WAY the old builder seems like yesterdays version of Toasty -_(I say old, but the builder is likely under 30)_ So much love for a machine? Or was it the fun shared finding friends online
Well at least the seller tried... Edit: Magnets were much bigger threat to the mechanic drives where they could've damaged not only written data but also the mechanism depending on strength of the magnet. SSD are not so easily damaged so it would have to be really strong magnet to damage SSD.
i need some help with my laptop. i bought a IdeaPad gaming 3 with a Ryzen 5 5600h about 2-3 years ago wanting to switch from console but never did, now that i use it more often i want to upgrade it so it doesn't have a hard time playing games, but i have no clue about a single word u guys say half the time. i understand that i need another stick of ram but what else can i do to improve performance. mainly fps
I was honestly wondering if it was something like this. That HP motherboard should have Gb LAN the network shouldn't have been THAT slow. Unless they were using Wifi? People noted a USB wifi dongle inside the case? I didn't notice if they were using Wifi I assumed they were using wired.
watching right now but hmm case /red looking like a bad date from night before that was looking good. after watching if a pc/ case was a used tampon that was painful.
i5-6500 is 35$ average, 1050ti is 40$ average, 20gb of ram is like 50$ if we're being generous, windows 11 is worthless, cuz win10 is better 20$, the lenovo platform without a cpu is generally like 20-30$. 175$ pc for 220$ is not cheap
Can someone tell me what hardware stats monitor they use that goes over their games in all their videos? I feel like I’ve been searching for weeks trying to figure out what they use
My computer has and antenna and does 150 mb a second SOME OF THE TIME mainly it is at 30mb a second but no matter what it only downloads things at 20 mbps
$220 is absolutely not cheap for 8 year old hardware in an office chassis w/ proprietary hardware
Yep, what a piece of crap that thing is, it will make great target practice.
For the benchmarks like Fortnite, you should probably cap the FPS to limit the bottleneck and explain why so people aren’t put off by lower end hardware. A friend of mine ran an i5-6600 and a 1050 Ti for a good while and the 60FPS cap was a godsend for CPU intensive games. People who are buying these PCs probably have a 60-75Hz monitor anyway, so it only makes sense
yep.. should almost always have a global FPS cap ~3 fps lower than your monitors max refresh rate at the used resolution, and then turn off vsync individually in all games
I still game on an i7 8700k and GTX 1060 6GB. It's not a bad combination although the 1060 is limiting FPS in certain games.
@@BREEZYM6015I get by with i7 4770, rtx 2060 super.
@@BREEZYM6015 I find that my 8700K really kills me in Fortnite when I run at 1440p.
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Getting a custom build done from ur shop in Louisville! It’s gona be epic when finished. Can’t wait!!!
the toasty bros are cooked with those shirts
Erm, What the sigma? More like Toasted XD
Erm
Love all your videos. I myself just bought a used, in great shape, lenovo erasure gaming pc off ebay with an i5 8 gen. cpu, 32 gigs of ddr4 ram, a 1 tb crucial ssd, and a 2tb sata storage drive, and an nvidia 1660 ti video card for $129 + $25 ground shipping. People are selling stuff dirt cheap just to pay high rent and put food in their mouths.
These are some of my favorite builds to do. We can all assemble a PC with all brand new parts, but this takes some skill. Whether or not it looks good is a different story 😅
Chipset drivers from manufacturer. People tend to slap windows on and forget the motherboard drivers.
That soundblaster box is prob worth more than the whole computer.
The president of the USA has a red telephone, you have a red computer! So you are totaly there. You guys made it!!
Highly probable that the 2 X 2GB sticks slow down everything. The timing is not matching with the 2 X 8 GB sticks.
I lost it when I saw that Soundblaster box. 🤣
this is like a $80 PC and then once painted its worth about $40
the gpu alone is 60-70
@@L4ftyOne Ya and the rest of the PC is worth $20
@@L4ftyOnea gtx 1050 is worth about 20-30 dollars
Where are you getting these prices
@@2048Megabytes. Where are you getting a gtx 1050 for 20 bucks
I love the hp PSU in the Lenovo case. I’m betting the motherboard is an hp as well.
I totally wrote this as y’all were discovering the hp PSU. 😂
My favorite of all,Toasty Bros at it again,I love these flip builds you do I Love your work guys 💗
The 20gb of ram is a death sentence. If they took out those two 2gb sticks it would run much much better
Sorry to ask, but would you mind explaining? I do know that it holds the pc back, but how is the bottleneck created?
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a death sentence. That's a little extreme. 😂
@@catraaa5261 It wouldn't even hold back anything if they are speed matched. If they aren't speedmatched then they will run at the speed of the slowest ram installed. Considering the motherboard and the cpu they are probably already running as fast as they can.
What are you on, bruh.
lying for no reason
Toasty.... MAKE A PC WITH THE THEME OF ONE OF THOSE SHIRTS
so odd to see an old sleeper case be modded into not a sleeper lol
Specs may not be great, but I'm kinda digging the red color. Reminds me of the Gundam Sazabi. It's definitely eye catching.
I think they sell stuff on etsy too, also $220 is not that cheap for those kinds of parts. I sold my spare old PC about two years ago with almost the same specs except it had a 960 instead of a 1050, and I sold it for like $130
Newbs ain't never seen a frankenstein PC. This was thrown together from dumpster quality parts just to make a buck. I've found similar specs in the dump.
For the looks of it and the price tag, the guy is working volume. You can't complain about this build, you get what you pay for. And it has an upgrade path for cheap, tucking an i7 7700 in will make it decent.
I would not consider it safe, long term, to put a magnet on a SSD. Regardless of whether it has DRAM cache, magnets could impact data being written and read from the chips on the drive, depending on the strength of the magnet.
Lenovo case, HP PSU and mobo, antec & be-quiet fans, Thermaltake cooler, mis-matched ram, random generic Chinese SSD... REEEEKing of cheap red paint...
What is this build... what does this persons inventory look like? The laminated pages are the most professional things about the build
Apparently magnets are fine on SSDs when I Googled it. Obviously not old mechanical HDs though lol.
good of you to help out, but whenever there's a memory in question I doubt magnets help. I wouldn't have magnet near RAM sticks personally, even though it can't really damage it. it's just my thing. might be the cause of slow downloads tho. because peak speed was shown at 300+ Mbps and then it dropped to 19.8
also Steam cache on a local network wouldn't hurt.
A can of paint = "extensively modified"?? Cmon.
It was more than just a can of paint. And even if it was a can of paint you have to clean, and sand, and paint. They also added led strips, fans, they did the weird stuff with the front panel IO replaced with a different front panel IO that was mounted internally and had leads to that weird thing attached to the front of the case. There wasn't any cutting involved so I wouldn't say it's extensively. But it was certainly not just custom painted. It's a modded case for sure.
@@exturkconner It's the PC equivalent of some shitbox Civic EX after some highschool kid was done modding it
You can't deny the refurbishment is very well done. Painting isn't exactly "extensive modding", but it's nice to see an honest seller.
That is how we modded 286´s. With a can of paint and AND an angle grinder. The glass we found on the streets.
The end of the 90´s and 00´s were the craziest though. I even put windows in cd writers, so you could see them spin.
@@patricktrakzel9657 ah, the old burnt media days. I miss them.
Thanks for all the testing that u always do I had a budget of 400 dollars and u guys helped me find out how to play games in that budget thanks so much toaster :)
i have that exact case: minus red paint, and I had to redo a few wires and usb headers, but it was good for my second gen intel i7 rig
got a ryzen 5-3600 for 60/ rx 580 OC xxx edition 47 bucks/ 32gb corsair rgb ddr4 $20 pc building hasn't been this cheap in awhile loving it.
$220 hell yeah!
I want that Sound Blaster fr
The shirts in the intro are legendary.
The shirts bro 😭
Do you guys overclock any of the PC's yall benchmark... overclocking may help out with performance...
This is the kind of frankenstein custom pc I like to see. The HP mobo/PSU inside a Lenovo case, with a BeQuiet fan, red led fan, and the random ass front i/o on the bottom of the chassis. Is this what meth does to a pc builder?
can u guys do budget gaming setup build for CS2 ?
The I219-LM is a 1Gb network adapter so it should have been able to do close to 100MB/s assuming you have fiber. I assume since you run a pc building company, you know how to check the adapter properties to ensure the nic is negotiating at 1Gbps instead of 100Mbps but to be fair, a non tech user isn't going to know how to do that so if that was the issue, it wouldn't be obvious to the user. You could also check your rj45 cables to make sure you aren't using an older cat rated cable.
Would that borked ram configuration hurt the downloading speeds? If the cpu memory controller is stuttering out would that cripple the cpu's ability to negotiate downloading? Or maybe the storage is like some fake ssd ?
@@darkkingastos4369 download speed has nothing to do with the storage.
Hey guys good day ❤
Should I upgrade from an i7 8700k and GTX 1060 6GB or keep the CPU for now and just upgrade the GPU?
their drip bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥
LAMINATED!!!! (Hopefully you get the movie reference)
Lenovo tune up as Crazy PC LOL
Love y’all’s shirts 😭
AFAIK a magnet couldn't be powerful enough to bother an SSD. It takes effort to handle one that will bother a HDD.
You guys should get a dedicated external ssd for games to test on these pcs
if you're wondering about the issue with the magnets on the ssd? SSD's are not effected by magnets that I know about, the one thing you gotta really protect against magnets are mechanical hard drives, as they can can become magnetized and be damaged as they have moving parts, and that can get stuck to the disk and scratch it to all heck, and it's going to lose your data, where as SSD's does not have any moving parts to get stuck to and damage one another, so that's why they did it, because they knew it won't damage it, but I do agree, the network on this thing is kinda bad, you're better off just getting a usb wifi receiver and going off of that, and/or maybe go direct wired connection to the eithernet to boost internet speeds. and I also agree that yes, fps capping it is an ABSOLUTE must lest you end up with gpu lag up the wazoo.
You sound somewhat educated until you wrote "effected."
Effected which means to start.
"The law effected change."
They didn't even make an attempt to dremel the old I/O shield from the host system to reuse. Quirky system though
honestly it's a nice project build.
The future owner should scrap that motherboard though and the power supply, I bet the cpu was being held back by the terrible vrm, it would also allow you to overclock the gpu and cpu and eek out some extra performance of this aged relic.
The fire hydrant build.
reminds me of my first gaming pc bought a lenovo pc with this same case with a i5 650 for cheap with 8gbs of ram and a 1tb hdd. put a 750ti in it
This build is so cursed, I love it.
relic from the past goes hard
I am curious to how it would have performed with an upgraded network card. I imagine playing online games was drastically affected by the network capabilities or therefore lack of.
Network card doesn’t affect fps
@@slaydog5102 Network card affects performance of the game; FPS wasn't mentioned.
So long ago someone with little money wanted to BOTH play esports and pimp out his rig - I liked the paint job and making the most of what’s practically free
In a WAY the old builder seems like yesterdays version of Toasty -_(I say old, but the builder is likely under 30)_
So much love for a machine? Or was it the fun shared finding friends online
open network card settings, put it on full duplex
Is that USB dongle on the inside the networking card? Why not move it to the Back IO and try downloading again?
Well at least the seller tried...
Edit: Magnets were much bigger threat to the mechanic drives where they could've damaged not only written data but also the mechanism depending on strength of the magnet. SSD are not so easily damaged so it would have to be really strong magnet to damage SSD.
Whats the name of the second song you used while playing apex??
Holy frick those shirts go so hard
Is it possible that the slow internet speeds might be because the dongle is in a metal pc case?
7mbs is bad? My internet sucks. It took a week and a half to download cyberpunk, 4-7 days every time fortnight updates. 😂☹️
damn lol
The ram configuration is what is borking that pc. It might also be slowing down the networking too
If that is all you can afford and run lower settings and it is a good gaming experience its a win.
This computer will be good for gaming if you put a better ssd and better ram
My computer had the same problem
Some single mom would buy that for her kid and it would make him cry.
*Not a bad price*
I am watching this on my i5 7500 with GTX 1060 6GB desktop. 😁
Love the content
Is there a thing as "too much red"😂
Cool shirts!!!
this is literally we have MacDonalds at home.
Love the videos, but just wondering why you guys didnt just plug it in through ethernet to do the downloads?
We did, that was the ethernet download speed
@@ToastyBros oh really? Oh jeez lol thats horrible, thank you for your sacrifice! Also thanks for the reponse!
love the shirts
I've never seen such a low-quality build. I've sold two PCs, and I make they don't look this bad before selling.
why not use a usb wifi dongle to get faster downloads?
dang that shirt is skibity
i need some help with my laptop. i bought a IdeaPad gaming 3 with a Ryzen 5 5600h about 2-3 years ago wanting to switch from console but never did, now that i use it more often i want to upgrade it so it doesn't have a hard time playing games, but i have no clue about a single word u guys say half the time. i understand that i need another stick of ram but what else can i do to improve performance. mainly fps
Could it be the ram configuration?
no red scares me
The ssd writing speed is too slow that’s why it takes forever to download something
I was honestly wondering if it was something like this. That HP motherboard should have Gb LAN the network shouldn't have been THAT slow. Unless they were using Wifi? People noted a USB wifi dongle inside the case? I didn't notice if they were using Wifi I assumed they were using wired.
Building my first pc in the h9 flow wish me luck ❤😅
watching right now but hmm case /red looking like a bad date from night before that was looking good. after watching if a pc/ case was a used tampon that was painful.
Could we see a single player game
i5-6500 is 35$ average, 1050ti is 40$ average, 20gb of ram is like 50$ if we're being generous, windows 11 is worthless, cuz win10 is better 20$, the lenovo platform without a cpu is generally like 20-30$. 175$ pc for 220$ is not cheap
Instead of wifi you could just use an Ethernet cable
Matt I need that Bulbasaur hoodie pls
So... took an Intel 4th Gen Lenovo PC, put in an Intel 6th Gen HP motherboard, and adapted a bunch of things... I guess?
They forgot to paint the power supply red.
I couldn't catch this one early cause I was at school 🥺
Watching this on my Lenovo M83, Xeon E3-1270 v3 & RTX 2060-S. It has the original motherboard, though. HP would have been a downgrade.
bro my laptop has a gtx 1050 and it runs better than that pc when dropping out of the battle bus
Can someone tell me what hardware stats monitor they use that goes over their games in all their videos? I feel like I’ve been searching for weeks trying to figure out what they use
Where are the links to those shirts? xD
The RED was a warning ;-)
I do this frequently to sell office PCs... But I take the time to do it right. That paint job is so horrible.
Absolutely horrifying
My computer has and antenna and does 150 mb a second SOME OF THE TIME mainly it is at 30mb a second but no matter what it only downloads things at 20 mbps
Only here for the first shirt 😮
Those are some w shirts
That runs like a true work PC, Crap 😂
i have a dell optiplex for my kids 16 gbs of ram 1660 ti and i 5 6500 had to also put in a dual band wifi card still downloads slow
I feel like some random kid spent all that amount of time on that cuz realistically no one is putting that much effort into that type of hardware imo
this is the shoddiest pc build i might have ever seen
More of a StinkPad than Thinkpad.