Is it DEBUSSY or MINECRAFT? Musicians take quiz ft.
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- Can professional musicians tell if music is by a Classical composer or from a Minecraft game?
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0:00 Q1
1:45 Intro
2:18 Q2
3:37 Q3
5:02 Q4
7:25 Q5
9:26 Q6
12:15 Q7
14:33 Q8
15:57 Q9
17:22 Q10
19:36 Q11
21:26 Q12
22:59 Q13
24:20 Q14
25:40 Q15
27:57 Bonus round!
32:31 Bonus round answers
24:16 How did YOU do?
Ah, Debussy and Minecraft, my two favorite things.
bussy is indeed nice.
@@PixieStixye debussy bussy
@@voqz6667 debussussy
@@PixieStixye sussy bussy
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As a Minecraft veteran who listens to Minecraft OST all the time, this is really fun to watch.
Too
Pigstep won was very obvious because I heard pigstep before
Minecraft is one of my favorite soundtracks, and these composers are among my favorite composers, so this was especially fun for me as well lol
Me too bro.
Oh well, nice to meet you colleague!
As a Classical music veteran who listens to Debussy all the time, this is also really fun to watch. 😅
You mentioned looping a few times in this video, but Minecraft's music doesn't do that! Because Minecraft's default state is silence, with the music popping in every 10 minutes or so or if the player plays one of the in-game records, the soundtrack is written the same as any normal composition.
Honestly it was driving me nuts that David seems to think that video game music is still stuck in the worst days of the NES with just two bars looped infinitely
@@snorlax42 Yet Chrono Trigger had one of the best videogame OSTs
@@snorlax42 but David has played the game and made a video on Minecraft music?
I don't think he was saying it that way, I think he was talking about modern music using more repetitive sounds into the composition (that being percussion, chords, progressions, arpeggios or whatever). And that is true to most soundtracks made for games
Most of Minecraft's music revolves around loops within the songs, usually about 4-8 bars long. I think he was referring to that.
It was a pleasure to be involved in this 😊 thanks again Ryan!
Thanks for putting yourself through it!
What a surprising co-op. Loved it! ❤
No problem, my friend! Always a pleasure to listen to Minecraft music
Nice. Interesting collab
There was one, teensy weensy little problem. You don't recognize Lena Raine.
Mice on Venus sounded WILD without that rallentando. It made me think the whole thing was sped up, but it was just that element missing.
i knew it in my heart when it started playing, purely out of the pain it makes me feel since technoblade’s passing. it’s crazy how much these things can impact
- but it is faster , slightly but it is faster , the lack of rall just seems like it but if you listen to the first couple of chords its more noticeable the bpm difference
It's definitely sped up. original is ~225 and the noteblock version was ~300
Having Debussy's Reverie in the trivia feels strange, because I swear there's a newer song on the Minecraft soundtrack that feels directly inspired by Reverie. When I first hear it while playing I immediately recognised some passages.
Left to Bloom by Lena Raine, it had me fooled too!
Absolutely i thought it was there too
It really shares that Minecraft vibe!
@@siraeslava2562 I didn't know this one, oh boe! It's a new favorite now
Yeah, that one was giving me some strong Lena Raine vibes.
I can tell I listen to too much Minecraft because not only could I pick out the Minecraft pieces, but I also knew the title of each just based off those snippets. As a theory nerd as well, it was really interesting to hear how you guys defined Minecraft music guidelines to work off of.
lmao same, I know close to nothing about classical music or theory but I could recognize every single minecraft song the moment it showed up
Me too but mostly with the old OSTs. I haven't listened enough to the new OSTs and memorized their titles. I kept switching An Ordinary Day and One More Day.
Stand Tall from minecraft is by Lena Raine, and her style is so recognizable so i knew it instantly. It’s funny how many pieces she’s written for mountains in video games.
What can I say mountains are just cool I guess
@@sleepyemily07 facts
i miss c418
I didn’t recognize it because I haven’t played in a while
Yeah her celeste soundtrack was stunning
The way you immediatly jump into the video with no delay is refreshing in the day and age of 10 min intros
Cold opens need to be more of a thing on youtube. It’s a perfect middle ground for creators who still want to dedicate time to an intro without dragging it on at the beginning.
why isn't anybody talking about the choice of the classical music? it's brilliant! they've got those minecraft-y motives that can baffle even a big fan of minecraft ost, like Satie's Les Anges which are the same and even in the same key as Wet Hands
All relatively recent French composers. Strange.
@@billylapworthAGAIN!? How dare the French!
dude yeah idk classical music at all and i for sure thought that was wet hands
Satie's Gymnopedie No.1 sounds right out of minecraft as well
As a Minecraft player, I was shocked to recognize The Engulfed Cathedral by Debussy
Hi, french person here, just wanted to say that I really loved the sonority of this title in english, is it always translated this exact way ?
@@bubulle4697 It is called either The Engulfed Cathedral or The Sunken Cathedral in English
@@RetroBlockade thank you for your answer ! I do like engulfed a lot more though !
@@bubulle4697 No, thank you and the original commenter, because of you I found a new Debussy piece to enjoy
wow a positive interaction with the french, it is possible!
I got pigstep on the first 2 notes 😄, but, if you are into a little bit of background info, pigstep was the first song in the game not made by C418 but by lana rane (may have butchered her name). And a lot of players really needed time to fall in love with it cause it's SO different to the rest of the soundtrack. And now its one of the most iconic tracks in the game.
I think she's just as good if not better! I love Stand Tall so much
Lena raine I believe
@@alicerowe4097 my opinion you can't compare composers they are all good (for minecraft) but each one is different
@@duality4y you definitely butchered her name 😂
@@duality4y I agree, i like both Lena and C418's music, they just have different styles
Big props to not just C418 but also Lena Raine. Everyone knows C418 is great, but Lena's work on Minecraft has been absolutely fantastic as well. She should get just as much praise. She also made the soundtrack for Celeste.
Celeste has an incredible soundtrack. She also helped toby on Deltarune
Honestly, I disagree. Raine’s music is objectively good music and is obviously fit for other games (ex: Celeste), but it does not embody Minecraft as a game nor does it give enough respect Daniel Rosenfeld’s legacy. I’m not sure what her intentions were, but it sounds like she wanted to take the music in another direction-away from the unforgettable and defining sound of C418’s original soundtrack.
@@sethburchill2631C418's music can be unforgettable and defining while still in the presence of other styles. Adding new music doesn't detract from the old- it only recontextualizes it, as time does. And that music is already in different context than it was, having gained additional connotations through the decade of memories attached to it.
Minecraft is, fundamentally, a different game now, with a different identity. The people who make it, too, are a core part of what the game is- to force an artist to the visions of people who aren't even present anymore is stifling.
C418's music was for a minimalist indie survival game. Minecraft isn't that game anymore. Lena Raine didn't conspire to redefine Minecraft through music, she just made music to fit the game that Minecraft is now, with the expected level of production that that entails. Sure, that means there's a greater degree of thematic and stylistic variation within the score, but that's hardly a bad thing, and I'd argue that C418 and Lena Raine's tracks emphasize different themes and aspects of them that are equally valid parts of the game's identity. C418's music has the lonely, almost empty nostalgia of the memories it created- while Lena Raine's highlights the bittersweetness of those memories from the perspective of the present, and the potential the game provides. You cannot have those without the other- they don't subtract through contrast, but add to each other through it.
@@_oceanstar I was going to respond but you said it so much better than I could have. Lena's music reflects the game and its community as it stands now, and does a very very good job of getting *that* vibe right.
@@_oceanstar well spoken! I totally understand your pov, and I appreciate your response. I actually agree with a lot of what you said here! Minecraft is surely more than just a minimalist indie survival game now - in fact, it didn’t even stay that way for long. Creative Mode, public servers, mods, new games like Story Mode and Dungeons, and all the like came very quickly in succession after the game’s release in 2011. But these additions never interfered with the minimalist survival game that they were built upon. Survival Mode, even through countless updates with new mobs, blocks, and features, remains as a minimalist survival game. It might not be the entirety of Minecraft anymore, but it is indisputably still a large part.
Survival Mode and Rosenfeld’s original soundtrack both remained untouched for all this time, just like the mode itself did. Even Rosenfeld himself didn’t touch it… Volume Beta, his second soundtrack for Minecraft, was arguably even more of an exploration than Raine’s music - but that’s why those songs are found only in Creative Mode and on the in-game discs, not in Survival Mode. So go ahead! Put Raine’s music in a new Minecraft game, a new mode - heck, most of her songs would play well with Volume Beta in a Creative world. That would be fine! But please, leave it out of Survival, an area of Minecraft that has already been defined. Or, alternatively, have Raine try to make music similar to Volume Alpha for survival mode. Either works.
I see why you could have the sentiment that the game and its community have completely changed since 2011, but that’s just not true. That old survival game and the people who play it (like me) are still here.
I don’t understand why everything must be redefined and reworked for a new audience or community. Can we not cherish the old while the new comes in, instead of being out with the old as the new comes to take its place? :/
Satie often wrote music with no barlines. I don't think he ever said why, but if he did I wouldn't believe him. He was one of those artists who are so eccentric that you can't tell how much of their behavior is an act. He loved making up absurd titles for his works (such as "Dried-Up Embryos" and "Flabby Preludes for the Dog"). He seemed to be satirizing the very idea of composition as an art, but who knows? I think of him as the David Lynch of French music.
Or did you mean “satierizing”? 😅
Embryons Desseches, yeah, that's the one that has a Beethovenian coda where he just stays on a single chord for multiple bars a la Fifth Symphony Finale almost out of mockery if I remember right.
I instantly recognised pigstep simply because that music disk slaps harder than anyone expects. Got 9 right, was thrown off my the inclusion of caves and cliffs (and that one that almost sounded like sweden) since I haven't heard much of the newer soundtrack
Pigstep is a hell yes and as a person who plays Minecraft with everything turned to 50% but the music 9 was easy to get :D
The fact that it’s hard to answer these right really shows just how good the minecraft soundtrack and classical music are.
fun fact about the trick question from the bonus round:
the track Stal has an instrument called mellotron, which as far as I know is kind of an old sampler. each piano key triggered a tape recording, allowing to play other types of instruments or even a whole band just by playing some keys.
There's this video of Paul McCartney demonstrating how it works and how they used it for the track Strawberry Fields, and if you pay attention and Stal is quite recorded on your mind, you'll instantly recognize something interesting :)
the video i'm talking about: th-cam.com/video/tTKPW92ndUA/w-d-xo.html
This is amazing. Stal in general kind of sounded like a bunch of random musical ideas that were just brought together, and still somehow worked! Thank you for this
I've seen it classified as a analog synthesizer, over all its a really interesting one.
@@mirdordinii5783 not a synthesiser, since it can only make sounds prerecorded into it. Also, analog synths are far older than it
Do you think that was the inspiration behind the track titled, “Mellohi”?
@@sus-kupp english is not my first language, so I may not always be able to express things as I intend. If there are errors in my comment I'm open to correction :)
Satie just liked to leave out the bar-lines sometimes. His Gnossiennes are all written that way, too.
I don't think there's a definitive answer as to why; he just liked to do new/different things with his scores, like writing without bar-lines (even when there's a clear metre) or giving strange written instructions to the performers.
Apparently there’s a Salvador Dali painting called Homage to Erik Satie so I guess it makes sense
Satie was quite an odd person that did some quite unique things for his time. Both Minecraft and Satie is close to my heart.
One piece of Satie trivia I really like is that those weird written instructions were so noticeable that it apparently became popular to read them out loud during performances, and eventually Satie wrote in one of his compositions: "To Whomsoever. I forbid the text to be read out loud during the performance of the music. Failure to conform with these instructions will cause the transgressor to incur my just indignation. No special exceptions will be granted"
Oh these guess videos are such a guilty pleasure. Really a brilliant concept
It would be great if you played the recordings of the classical excerpts too
I’ve always been under the belief that video game music is the most fitting spiritual successor to classical
A lot of JRPG music is literally just prog
Some VGM is classical (Minecraft, Pokemon, Zelda) Some follows jazz (Mario, Megaman), some follow other genres. VGM is really one of the most important musical traditions of our century, maybe the most important
It was really funny to hear Pigstep be labled as classical.
Also as a lifelong Minecraft player I didnt get all of them I feel ashamed, even some of the classic C418 ones
The timbre does have quite the effect on perception
Honestly there's a surprising amount of osts out there that are comperable to classical music, I'd love to see more of this. It's interesting seeing where game ost makers get their influences from
All western music goes back to classical one way or another
In my opinion, game and film soundtracks are the closest we have to modern classical
@@sirpixel7945 you should listen to a star trek music compilation, its bassicly classical for even more nerdy nerds
“Danny” is one of the video game soundtrack masterpieces of all time… the second half creates the perfect feeling of being in a cave
FYI: Minecraft Caves and Cliffs is still the normal Minecraft. It was just the name of certain update that brought new terrain generation to the game.
he really put his whole Debussy into it
It's not as challenging when you're a classical musician and have been playing Minecraft since 2011.
Exactly, same here ;)
Yeah I recognized everything
That's awesome :O
How did you guys learn?:3
@@MetalBansheeX Debussy only published like 250 pieces of music, and Satie only has like 6 or 7 hours total. You'll recognize tunes after a whole. As for Minecraft, yeah that's the easy part lol
SAME LOL
I find it funny that David says that he thinks minecraft would have more arpeggios, but the first few classical pieces are the ones to have arpeggios haha
Q7:
Me: "this is too fast, there is no way it's mine- oh, it's pigstep"
Being someone not super familiar with classical music but also knowing Minecraft quite well, I managed to get I think all of the first 15 correct. I also don't know a lot of Beatles songs (to clue you in on how little I know, I didn't even recognize that part of Yellow Submarine), so I was astounded at how much #4 sounded like Stal. Then the results came and I knew. :D
A few years back there actually WAS a concert hall for listening to orchestral versions of pokemon music. It's called Pokemon Symphonic Evolutions! I saw the very last showing of it and it was absolutely incredible. I really hope they do it again someday.
12:16 LOL I recognized it immediately, but knew you'd have trouble with it looking at the score.
When you recognize both the classical and minecraft music it gets challenging again.
It's so cool to see a new (to me) music TH-camr collaborate with an older (to me) one. So excited that your channel is growing, Ryan! Soon you'll be on the "5 composers, one theme" show!
I got 7, which feels awful to get as a huge fan of Minecraft and C418 BUT in my defense I don't know much of the newer soundtrack and some of those classical pieces seemed handpicked to have motifs/melodies very similar to Minecraft songs. i.e. 7:38 sounded like a motif heard in Sweden and 19:40 sounds like Wet Hands to me.
Same, everything from the caves and cliffs update threw me off
@@pancakedroid same
⛏ Analysing Minecraft's Music (ft. Mumbo Jumbo) th-cam.com/video/ZiM3RUTrvn4/w-d-xo.html
Damn so happy to see these two lads, love both of your contents
I was surprised that I’m more familiar with Debussy than these guys. I guess it goes to show how much music there is out there to listen to
It's cool to see another one of these types of videos. I really enjoyed the Mozart vs. Pokémon one, too. I'm hoping for more like these.
Every time the video starts i think its some clip from the middle of the video and you'll do an intro after the "crazy twist we'll get to see later" it's so nice to see someone get into the video and not explain whats obvious from the title.
As a huge Minecraft music fan, a bunch of those Satie ones almost tripped me up lol Might have to look into those some more
Edit (since I can never seem to finish a video before commenting): That trick question was very funny, because I thought "No way they'd do a trick question, but that sure does sound a whole lot like the Stal disc"
Listen to more classical it’s good for you 👍
@@manguiki I've definitely listened to a good amount, being a band kid in school and all, just not enough to know everybody
I instantly recognized it as one of the discs, although when he was saying he thought it reminded him of a beatles song I was wondering if it was a coincidence. But I was at least 70% that it was a trick question when I heard it
You'll like Erik Satie's Gnossienes.
Especially, I recommend Gnossiene 1 and Gnossiene 5.
it could be cool to do a similar thing with classical and metal, once you take away the distortion metal can have a lot of similarities
I'm really glad they had Alpha in here, it's my favourite song as it includes parts from tracks from the old minigames mode and motifs from many nostalgic tracks
I just watched the Pokemon Vs Mozart, then this appeared in my feed just a few hours after posting! This is an awesome series.
God, i love Debussy
But I always finish on de Bach, never in Debussy
@@kingdancekiller *applause before the cutaway ends
I want this to be a running series that other channels copy. This is great!
This comparison is pretty accurate because I was playing Satie in my dorm and one of the kids in my hall knocked on my door and said he enjoyed the Minecraft music lol
This is really nice to watch since I play minecraft and absolutely love the OST.
When song number 7 came on I instantly recognized it, it's the only music disk you get from the nether. Me and my brother used to listen to Pig Step all the time after first receiving one of the disks because of how good it is for newer minecraft music
Yeah I heard that Debussy was a big fan of Minecraft
The quartal harmonies of Debussy sound like they actually belong in minecraft. Especially the sunken cathedral
im glad a song from the beta soundtrack was in this. i swear no one ever listens to alpha and it's my favorite composition out of the whole soundtrack
the fact that i still recognised pigstep bc its so deeply ingrained in my brain I hear it Anywhere
These videos have such a chill vibe ~
Fun fact: Stal from the bonus questions uses Mellotron samples, which Paul McCartney uses in a more recent video where he demonstrates the Mellotron
I almost died laughing when Stal came on in the bonus section 😂
What an absolutely genius use of google slides! Incredibly dynamic visual with what seems like minimal editing. So innovative!!
At question 14. I already recognized it at like first 4 notes. Alpha from Volume Beta.
If someone asks what's my favorite Minecraft piece of all time, it'd be Alpha Volume Beta. NO DOUBT.
I'm no composer, but Hollow Knight's soundtrack *is* in the classical music genre so I would love to see how real composers compare it to other classical work.
Great video, loved this quiz.
I've known Minecraft for nearly à decade and it's been a big part of my childhood, yet i didn't play or listen to the music that much. Got 11 for the regular rounds, so it's still nice enough.
Your analyses were pretty entertaining, trying to break down the musics into specific characteristics; especially on more difficult rounds.
Thank you for this, take care.
Surprisingly challenging to distinguish the songs! I’d love to see a video comparing bloodborne music to classical
Missed stand tall and left to bloom because I haven’t listened in a while but got all the other Minecraft/non Minecraft guesses pretty easily
omg when i heard the first beatles one i had like a visceral reaction to it i have listened to the white album too many times
SUCH a great video idea
I loved watching their attempts at the sunken cathedrale
Having played many Debussy pieces on the piano and playing Minecraft while listening to the OST my entire life, this was a very fun watch! ❤
Yo always great to see DBP 👌
~8:50 I got thrown off by this one because Minecraft uses variations on that downward three note phrase as a common motif
As someone whose musical expertise ends at MUS-101 but who has played minecraft for over a decade, I did about as well as you guys. Great video idea!
These are really fun!!
i love classical music and minecraft ost so this was super fun to watch
Going to concerts for video game music has already been a thing for several years! There are touring orchestras that specifically play concerts of music from single video game franchises - the first two that come to mind for me are Distant Worlds: music from Final Fantasy, and The Legend of Zelda: Symphony of the Goddesses.
hearing them think they recognized Stal as a Beatles song was so funny bc I knew it was Stal immediately
dude I always get so nostalgic whenever I listen to the soundtrack
I was able to get Pig Step because on the sample version it sounded like music from Celeste which is also composed by Lena Raine!
Lmao with bonus 4 i was like "is there a beatles song so similar to this OST track on minecraft?"
After seeing Mozart vs Pokémon and now this i definitely want to see more “is this classical composer, or modern video game music” videos
10:38 I knew immediately that it was Minecraft, not because of any prior knowledge or even association to Minecraft, but instead because I recognized Lena Raine's handiwork in the selection.
She has a very recognizable artistic flair! And every time I hear it, I'm reminded of her work on the Celeste OST.
I'll put this one in the win column, thankyouverymuch :P
I was losing my MIND at the 4th bonus song! I swore it sounded exactly like "Stal" lmao
C418 is actually a contemporary impressionist. He makes music with a level of atmosphere which is highly reminiscent of that genre. Mid-Air Theif/Shadow Community/Bird's Eye Batang, Brian Eno, and Trent Reznor are great examples of this, as well.
I was hoping for there to be a trick question in the Beatles part, I was grinning so hard when I heard Stal
Hi Ryan! When’s the next composers competition? I’m excited about trying out for it 🎹
Composing over the month of January, announcement video December 28th
@@RyanLeach that works for me. Looking forward to it 😎
I LOVED the trick question at the end it was a very fun twist
Did not expect Davidbennetpiano to be here! Great Suprise!
i actually got the trick question on the bonus round. i instantly recognised it as stal! lets go
2:25 honestly thought from this melody that it was ‘one more day’ from Minecraft
recognized pigstep immediately; i know lena raine's music so well from listening to it so often lol
love how ravel's playing the note block in the first one!
It's very funny watching this while having memorized the entire minecraft soundtrack
Love the Channel, the 4th Beatles song you're thinking of is "Fixing a Hole" from sergeant peppers. Keep up the good work!
YES!
As someone who loves minecraft classical music and the Beatles I enjoyed that one. Thought I was going crazy when I heard revolution 9 in there but it was anyway
i can hear the water rustling each time the minecraft songs come on, i got this
omg I recognized Alpha almost immediately, amazing song
That Left to Bloom excerpt reminded me a lot of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. Just the sparse melodic texture with the triplets immediately reminded me of Moonlight Sonata.
i was so confused with the first one because I swear I recognized it but the tempo made it impossible
same
As someone who has played Minecraft for 10+ years and knows the OST by heart, this was so fun to watch!
Very cool video!
this was fun I got all the older minecraft tracks except alpha for some reason, and in the bonus round i was like that is stall like exactly haha
Some of this music is from newer versions, where C418 isn't solely responsible for it anymore - some of it is by Lena Raine, there may be others.
Minecraft is practically my entire childhood, and I also love classical music and play piano as a hobby. But I still missed a bunch of these 😭
Creative video idea!