Hey guys! Here's a follow up to the last vid about toxicity. With everything that's been going on with women in gaming, I figured it was time to make this video. Hope you enjoy! Also, I'm live on Twitch right now so come over and let's talk about stuff ;) www.twitch.tv/eggwickgg
Yo just wanted to let you know your hashtags aren’t working right because the discord tags are above the actual hashtags in the description, so youtube uses the first 3 discord tags as hashtags
Hello, nice presentation. I just wanted to ask why you didn't add already existing research on the topic, before adding your own study into the Valorant experience particularly? It could add a lot of value if you used this data and compare it to what was already known about gaming toxicity in general, especially to see if Valorant were more toxic than other communities. For example men experience more harassments than women while being online in general, which is known, but a hypothesis might be (based on this) that women perhaps experience more toxicity while playing FPSes.
I am an indian and i play in asian server but compared to female and male toxicity the boys do not get angry on the girls they try yo hit on them and try to be the top fraggers to impress them
i did this as an experiment i changed my username to a girl name and a huge majority of my games had guys flirting with me blaming me randomly and just harrasing me in vc. then i would talk and they would evaporate
thats so weird because I have felt the opposite actually! I used to use a regular gaming username and the second I would talk everyone would be shocked that there was a girl in the game and either insult me or try to "woo" me or whatever, but since I changed my username to my first name I feel like it happens less. I assumed it was because they have already read my name so when I talk they already know that I'm a girl, but I'm sure everyone's experience is different
@@LimeCoookie i didnt realize my comment got popular like that, but im not sure if this is the case but i changed it to a chinese alias similar to me name in chinese (but more feminine) and from what i know i believe people see asians as more soft and "easy" in a sense i could go into all of my biases but its difficult to explain how i see it
i think the reason why 14-18yo gamer boys are toxic towards women is because they can freely talk to them hiding behind their anon, in real life they are probably to scared to even talk to a girl/woman
Im a woman playing valorant and I really had to start hiding my name after a few days of playing duo queue. I was being insulted, objectified, simped for (also by the enemy team) and harassed in voice and text chat almost every game even though I never said anything or fuelled their hatred/misogyny. If I played bad, idiots would blame it on my gender. If I top fragged, they would call me fat & ugly. Now that I've hidden all the information that could lead to players thinking I'm female, my games are a lot more peaceful.
exactly! and sometimes i dont have the energy to defend myself but I don't want to just mute since I feel the need to prove them wrong or something. but at the end of the day whenever we play well and we get insulted personally we just know the persons now just desperate and has nothing else to yell at us so
i feel so bad for you. I am generally afraid when i queuing with my female friends, cause they are beginners and i dont want them to get the impression what valorant is from its community. They never comm and i usually comm for them its very sad the way it is
@@sohan8933 man oh man i wouldnt breathe without doing so. but sometimes I'm too tired to deal with bullshit like that so i type in the all chat to report them
i do that too. i act like a guy when I'm online. sometimes i just don't have the energy to defend myself sometimes or because its so tiring and dumb to dealing with people like that
I don't have a very deep voice at all so everytime somebody asks me "are you a little kid or a girl" I legit just say i'm a kid because I get less harassment that way lol
@Devansh i dont think riot games can fix this problem either. I’d rather pretend im a kid than Get harassed every other game. And it helps me enjoy the game so i dont see the problem in doing it
@Devansh I'd rather not, I want to play the game not waste my time arguing with people in every match. I'm also not "presenting as a kid", all I do is just say "yeah" if they ask if i'm a kid (or just say "no" if they ask if i'm a girl) then leave it at that and mute if they continue to bother me.
i don’t necessarily experience “toxicity” from most games but it’s distracting and just rude sometimes when a guy will constantly be asking for socials or asking if I’m hot, it is kinda hilarious how blown away they are by a girl existing
@@sebaschan-uwu yeah me personally, I prefer to not use mic. It’s actually quite detrimental in comp scenarios, and sometimes I’m forced to. but it’s hard because I’m one of those people that gets nervous and doesn’t take flaming well.
Or when I'm match mvp, unmute, and they start throwing and killing me until I give my socials or say sexual phrases- that's not how you get a girlfriend? This happens every 4th comp game i swear they always keep me from ranking up by throwing games that were super winnable.
the fact that we need "experiment" to show that women goes through these everyday in the gaming communities... bruh we just want to play the fucking game
I feel like the extreme toxicity in men that occurs is subject to the stereotypes of gender and all that. It's way less likely for women to play games compared to men, but even further it's even less likely for women to play FPS and shooter games. When men see it they just get this reaction in them that finds it unnatural, and when they perform poorly, it's all a blame of gender because it's unusual to see a woman playing a shooter. Whenever I play with a friend on Valorant, we make jokes that sometimes seem toxic, like we'll scream at eachother as if we aren't duo queued and such, and if another person interferes we'll team up on them and curse at them but in a way that they should be able to tell we're not being serious. I've had situations where we curse at women on our team, but our teammates tell enemies to report us because they think we're mad because of their gender, but it's just the way we treat everyone in order to have fun.
@@oakles First of all you're completely wrong about women being less likely to play games. There are tons of women who play games including FPS ones, they just aren't verbal about it or speak in voicechat because of the amount of toxic males. It isn't unusual and I can tell you're a male because you clearly haven't done your research about it. On your other statements that's just on you. If you don't clarify that you're joking people are bound to take it seriously especially if you're cursing at a woman because again, women are treated horribly in games. Most of the comments we get are written off as "jokes" because males don't want to take responsibility for the amount of toxic bs they spew out. Regardless if you were joking or not it's not up to you to brush it off as a joke because you aren't the one being cursed at by random strangers. So just don't be stupid is what i'm trying to get at. Sounds like you're being dense on purpose.
@@kkillri late reply, but you are also incorrect about the amount of females playing videos games, in 2020 a statistic of 60% of males were casual gamers, and 40% of women were casual gamers (Source: www.statista.com/statistics/232383/gender-split-of-us-computer-and-video-gamers/) (2nd Source: quanticfoundry.com/2017/01/19/female-gamers-by-genre/) Not only that, but a very little percentage of casual gamer females play fps, so yes, he was correct that women are way less likely to play FPS. I’m not sure of the 5% of female gamers are core gamers is true, but it seems reasonable since gaming has been male dominated for years upon years for the reason that they appealed to males. A few simple searches and you can see that you were wrong about it, no need to add that last sentence either. A game with a high female base is Dead by Daylight, so if you had said something about that I would understand, but this is FPS, a male dominated scene. If you want more sources here you go (www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamify.com/gamification-blog/not-all-games-are-created-equal-pt1%3fhs_amp=true) (www.radford.edu/~mzorrilla2/thesis/differencesinplay.html) (This one skewed the female base a little bit but still, you get it: techjury.net/blog/video-game-demographics/#gref) Have a nice day
@@oakles tbh, that kind of behavior just ruins the game for me and others. I need to hear sounds and audio cues and screaming at ur friends in vc isn't helping.
I only play with people I know bec people really can get toxic. If I do end up solo queuing, i will only use the text chat to communicate until i feel like the team is safe enough to speak in. That would mostly happen if another girl is speaking in the team lol From people straight up mollying me, walling me out, giving away my position, trash talking me even if I'm doing okay in-game (or not - still not cool), excessive simping, asking if I'm a girl multiple times, asking for socials - I've just decided it's safer to avoid soloing if I want to enjoy the game 😬
I understand your pain and I have witnessed it multiple times. But don't think every boy/man is like that. These are a few idiots shouting the loudest. It's not like you would be in danger to encounter always ppl like that. Me and my friend are just trying to climb. Don't care if our bottom fragger is a male or a female. It's as I said: those toxic idiots are just the ones shouting the loudest. So pls, use vc, pls communicate. Most ppl only want to climb. And if there's a player who just doesn't say anything and never gives info really makes those ppl angry.
Im a guy and I rarely talk in voice chat, I only talk when I get teammates that wants to win. And that is rare. Yesterday I got two toxic teammates that was constantly blaming, calling me shit and threw the game. He didn’t stop talking and writing for a second. He even sent me a friend request just to talk even more shit with his 3 other friends in his lobby. Why do these sad people even play this game? And why doesn’t they get heavy penaltised for this? Hope they get a 3 month vacation
That’s actually sad, honestly if this happens again just mute and take deep breaths before you get back into the game because their comments will make you unconsciously tilt and even though they’re muted you’d feel embarrassed by your plays and think about what they’d say. Just don’t forget to report them at the end
Whalequid the data results are quite similar among just men too, the 78% toxicity rate when losing is pretty much with everyone, it’s becuase people get mad they’re losing and if they’re stacked they won’t blame their mates, they’ll just be toxic to the random, it’s pretty consistent with valorant, I play with roughly 50/50 males to females (close irl friends and long time discord friends) and it’s generally similar in that whenever you’re losing the teammates will be just as toxic to the guys as the girls, I’m in Australia though so I guess that might have a factor and what I do notice is when someone is being toxic to a guy they’ll just call him a cunt or “trash at the bottom” etc whereas with the women it’s almost always “get back in the kitchen” or “go make me a sandwich” or even “show me your tits if we clutch” toxicity to women is just less creative because guys only insult girls by being sexist
@@RJ-zl9vj I meant it is sad, because women get insulted simply because of their gender. sexism is stll prominent, even if most of them arent that hard core
Its so bad because realistically at least one of the 10 people in a valorant lobby spend their entire day playing and have no social lives. Just cus they are good at left clicking on people it makes them think that they are the shit. Its so unfortunate for girls at the moment and with all the storys im reading its all just so fucked up
we asians respect woman, i befriended a woman in a game and she gave me advice about adult life and some tips. She helped me find my dream job and told me "just keep working at the job u just started and after a long time you can quit"
i guess it's more of the fact the gender roles of asians( based on my personal experience) is actually more equal than the gender roles in other countries. but you can my word to a grain of salt as Im technically a kid(ish??)
@@etheriongaming517 As a North American I run into tons of toxic players in Valorant. Apex Legends has servers for practically every single state, as I live in a pretty developed area and I’d assume this is why I run into way less toxic players in Apex Legends, just a hypothesis, toxic players unfortunately exist in every game.
@@idkwhatswhat2382 i personally think it depends, but countries where Western influence is more prevalent, the sexism is way worse. But for most of it, the people I've played with are nice.
half the games is quite a lot of games. and think about it, if a woman has experienced toxicity and misogyny in HALF of their games, they’re likely to not trust voice chat in ALL of their games, because they’ll never know when they will get ripped apart for simply being a woman. so for people who say “it’s just 50%,” reconsider how it may affect all of the games.
Ripped apart I have learned not to get worked up about dumb shit like something a toxic says if your getting ripped apart by toxic people then either don't use mic or maybe valorant isn't the game 4 u it's sad to say but the gaming industry as a whole is toxic not much you can do other than ignore it
@@sneakysquid2893 bad mindset tbh, voice chat in games has been slowly improving thanks to videos like this and better moderation, if it's "just how it is" why is Asia so much better, and why is it improving over the years
it is so difficult for me. i feel like in general people are a lot more toxic towards me because of my voice. its very egirlish, and people assume im whispering and doing it on purpose. i have a lot of speech issues and it is so difficult for me to talk at a normal level, and even then my voice will still sound "egirlish". its so disheartening and just breaks my spirit. ill just be vibing, make a call and some guy will be like "why are you whispering?" n shit. i messed up a raze's jump and he told me to kill myself and i said "yikes" or something in vc and he said "oh no wonder youre trash, youre a woman. shut the fuck up already and end your life." i was not only top fragging but had the least amount of deaths and had an ace. i wasnt doing trash at all i just accidentally got in his way once. and thats how he reacted. so many people have told me to kms in valorant because im a girl. it just breaks my heart.
i am experienced similar things after i used to that i started to break their heart and step on them they really dont deserve anything disgusting piece of shits
@@zhen_xi I'm so sorry u feel that way. I know what it's like to be trashtalked and frequently telling me to leave the game. Idk where it from but Tokyo servers are usually very friendly. Hope u experience a lot of fun gamings in the future!
I admire your courage. no one really stands up for women in video games because they’re scared of being called a simp or something like that. keep it up!
This does not change the fact that in Australia there are 48 million kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan will have to fight 14 kangaroos
I have a friend that's like whenever there's a female he's like friend requesting and inviting to our group just because they're female it's honestly cringe and annoying, he's not a bad guy but sometimes he's gotta chill
Then tell him it's not okay. One of the major problem is, that non-misogynistic men don't call their misoginyst peers out. So, the creeps feel safe and justified in their behaviour.
I’m a boy, but since I’m younger, my voice is higher pitched. I don’t talk very much, but when I do, people tell me to shut up because of my voice. I truly enjoy valorant as a game, and when I get teammates that are kind, and understanding that it’s just a game, It makes me want to play more.
Might just be me, but, I feel as if asking for a social and/or sending friend requests isn’t really bad unless the person is clearly not interested or if turns into blatant harassment. Some people genuinely just wanna talk to others and aren’t trying to be rude or offensive.
@@israelmontero4762 I have never seen anyone ask a dude using mic for his snap/insta/socials. Ever lmfao. Farthest is discord and that's relatively normal if you want to keep queueing with them, but because of the game and not because they're a boy (hence if you flip gender.... Well, yeah).
Honestly, the worst thing is that whenever a female opens up the mic my team loses the game. Everyone just loses their shit and the goal of the game suddenly becomes wooing the e-girl rather than winning the competitive match. Bonus points if it's some 40 y.o Turkish guy asking for an e-girls insta
Hey tbh i think the rhetoric of "egirl" kinda encourages the idea that women or girls playing games is diff or weird, since its like giving girls who play games a nickname or name, and since guys who play games dont have a nickname specifically tied to their gender, it creates that difference between girls and guys with even just the words we use.. I know you probably didn't mean harm in using that word but I thought I would let you know. thank you ^^
I have run into so many people where i cant tell if they are a young boy or a high pitched girl. Either way, doesnt change the way you speak to em, just curiousity.
I just stopped talking on voice. I only talk in comp. The reason was that one time i made a joke directly to someone that was weird (i thought it was a boy, and i just usually play around like that) and it was a girl. I still feel regret to this day about making that joke
I play valorant and I'm in Asia and there is a lot of girls who play valorant. When I queue to female gamers I just treat them normally and everybody in the voice chat does the same and the only time I experience something weird is just not that bad. I really feel bad for other regions.
I play on the EU server AND NA server with my bf and I have experienced more toxicity in the NA region than the EU one. But it’s still toxic. Tbh Asia sounds nice right about now🥺
Really appreciate you making this vid and continuing to hammer home on this issue. It’s likely more important and impactful than even your gameplay guides on improving the experience of players, and my hope is that it will make your audience consider how prevalent a problem this is in gaming as a whole.
To be fair, there's a lot of actual simps who instantly become obsessed with being nice to a female player, just to get virtual cookie points. I'm not saying you're one of them, but I just wish people could treat female gamers exactly the same as they'd treat male gamers, instead of being overly nice or creepy or harassing them.
@@thundervoid420 Then you get a bunch of woman whining about toxicity still lol...everyone wants to be treated the same till the see the not so nice sides of equal treatment.
@@keonkla dude I could care less of teammate was toxic to me in general, it's when all of their comments are directed at me being a girl. It's annoying when dudes throw because you're a girl or because you wont give them your snap. Thats the part most people are annoyed about
I literally just got a game with a girl gamer and the other guys were so damn toxic it was actually so damn infuriating, just let them play how fkin hard is that
I think the best thing we normal players can do is to back up the person being harassed. Don't just sit quietly there and listen to people insulting others. It's not even dependant on gender or anything. If someone is being harassed, support them and tell the bully how shit they are
I can’t tell you how many times guys asked me for socials or for me to follow them & when I say no they full on start harassing me or flaming me. Even worse I once had a guy who somehow found out I was a girl even though I didn’t talk & my name isn’t a dead giveaway & for the entire game of val he just followed me around shouting at me & when he died because he wasn’t even paying attention just following me, he blamed it all on me. It blows my mind how often I see this happen to me or my friends, or even just other girls that are in the game. I’ve gotten better at just ignoring people but it doesn’t mean that it’s okay. 🤷🏻♀️ even my guy friends talk trash about girls who game & they’re just like, “well you’re basically a boy so it’s fine we’re not talking about you”- like.. that doesn’t help dude I still don’t want to hear that ever from anyone.
i agree, i made a catfish account with a voice changer, just wanted so see how bad it is personally (my sisters play this game lol), jesus i feel horrible for you girls, i got asked for my IG the whole game, asked for nudes, keeped getting team killed and harassed, i really feel bad for you, i play with my sisters a lot (they are new so they kinda suck lol) and i always try to encourage them, even randoms girl or not just be encouraging, you never know that little push might raise their courage and get you that carry (been carried by a lot of female randoms lol), just don't be a toxic dumbass all in all, keep at it i promise you, the games where you get good people that felling you get just makes going through a few shitty games worth it IMO
im so sorry you had to go through that :(, from what you've said, it kinda seems like your friends are misogynists. 'we're not talking about you, you're basically a boy'??? lol no that's not how it works dude
@@aliasalias738 sometimes I want to honestly, but I’ve known them for over 6 years. They’re not always like that it’s just sometimes, it should be never but aaa what can you do.
@@GoldstarVFX that’s a big commitment you made just to see how bad it can be, but I’m glad you did because most people would just be like “oh well it’s toxic for guys too sooo just get over it” but when you have it happen to you you’re kinda just like... wtf?? I always try to encourage people, especially if it’s a soft spoken woman in game because I can just tell they’re nervous. I’m 21 now so I can ignore some of the bs people say but when I was younger it seriously hurt me & steered me away from playing shooters & such. I’ve had some wonderful games with both men & women, not everyone is toxic and it is worth it to just keep playing through it when there are people like that, it just sucks that there are people that go out of their way to make you feel bad. I agree with you 100% though, just be nice to everyone you play with because you never know what’s going on- they could be brand new or having a bad day & just nice uplifting words could really help them & not only make them feel good but honestly help them play better. 🤍
@@amtrixieit’s alright, I mean sometimes they can be but they mostly just say stuff like that because I’m gay & I do dress more like a boy than a girl. 🤦🏻♀️ it doesn’t make it alright & I do tell them off if they start getting way out of line, I’ve known them all for a long time so I know they’re not always like this it just sucks when they are because I do love them it’s just hard to change what’s been ingrained into their heads. It’s really sad to see a lot of boys grow up making or hearing stupid sexist jokes & then really believing them to a degree when they’re older.
I one time was top fragging as Sage in valorant like I was carrying and these two boys they sounded like kids honestly kept on screaming into there Mic and I asked them not to they put two and two together of me being a girl and just amped there levels to unbearable. Like I was winning the game for them and they just kept on screaming and harrasing me. Like I asked them to stop mulitple times and it got so bad where I legit had a panic attack while in game.
I was on a game where I had a woman teammate and basically all the other people on the team were just spouting generic insults towards her, but she was also kinda toxic, so basically the whole match was just a woman and 3 children screaming at each other, we lost that game
Asia does have as many toxic players as other regions but since we all are taught to be polite to everyone, fewer people actually go through with being toxic
Thank you for making this! Too many people think that this isn't as big of a problem as it truly is. Your gender shouldn't matter in video games. I hope that there will come a day when girls no longer have to feel anxious about using comms
As a gurl, i dont really use my mic in any of the games I play. usually its bc i just dnt feel comfortable or im too shy but its mainly bc guys r sometimes rlly toxic >:(
I play compi,but I don't have any intention to get a rank. I just play with my friends only. I don't enjoy multiplayer games unless I play with my friends. I used to play a lot of csgo in the past years, watching how to videos about rank pushing. The toxicity ruined the game for me. I switched to story mode games and have had a great experience.
It's always such a relief when someone defends you. The only thing that sucks is that the guy who stood up for you will end up being called a white night or something and getting hated on as well. It's so sad. :(
some people have made videos about this actually! while muting might seem like a good idea, there's still the chance they throw or try and kill you in game. I can't remember her name, but someone made a video where after she muted toxic teammates, they mollied her, walled her, threw grenades at her, bodyblocked her and so much more that prevented her from playing the game. So while this isn't always the case, it's still an annoying thing you have to deal with :( so overall it's a tough situation, but muting can help in some cases!
Im a male from EU and In my last 10 I had 4 or 5 games that were so toxic that were at least a 8 on a scale from 0-10. You can’t solo queue this game, because you get either get trolls, people that disconnect, people that don’t talk at all or people that are just toxic.
when i duoq with a female friend of mine people are almost guarenteed to simp/ask for nudes and socials its really sad how toxic the Valorant community is
Its disgusting how people will go out of their way to say stuff like "go back to the kitchen" or bully a random female for trying to play a game. Regardless of gender everyone should have the ability to enjoy games.
Thanks very much for making this video. I think the type of guys who harass girls (or just don’t think its a big deal) are very unlikely to listen to a woman talk about this stuff. Its really helpful for a dude to make this and maybe change some opinions of people who think this stuff doesn’t happen.
Lol your one of my kind I see. I have a high pitch and I like to smoothen it out so its not too high pitch and when I hear my own voice when its smoothen out through a mic like "Damn"
Very encouraged to see this video and all of the support from your community on it. Toxicity has no place in gaming. Games are for fun, not for bullying. It's sad to see how casual and common sexism, homophobia, and racism have become. But these videos are absolutely helping. The world needs to know. People should be held accountable for what they say. I can't wait to see what else you have, and would love to brainstorm ideas on solutions to toxicity in gaming. I'm very passionate about it as well and have been doing some research/data collection of my own. Keep up the positive vibes. Cheers.
Once I heard that female players don't use voice chat because they are afraid of toxicity, and I realized that's actually true, I've played with many girls who didn't use voice chat until the end of the match or they spend half of the match without talking, and that's a shame because if we all could communicate we could play better, but I understand why they don't talk and it's horrible. They deserve to play and enjoy games just like men do
In addition, I think the best we can do as "non-toxic" players for women is to make them feel safe when they play, congratulate their good plays, not insulting for bad plays and of course, not harassing and being misogynist. I and I say to women because they have more issues regarding toxicity than men
I usually play with my best friend (who's a girl) and she barely uses vc usually when she does 90% of the times there are people asking for her socials or trying to flirt with her I remember sometimes she even asks me to ask for weapons for her from others at times, plus the worst part is that she isn't even interested in guys (lesbian) this makes her even more uncomfortable when people try to flirt with her (I'm a guy btw and I'm helping her get together with a girl she likes since I know that girl rather well)
I have a soundboard, with raze voicelines, (loads of people don't notice it's raze) and I feels special when I use it to say hello and yes/no to questions in agent select, everyone is always waaaay nicer, and people are way more willing to say hello back over voice, rather than say nothing or type hello in chat if I use my own, male, voice.
Thank you so much for spreading the awareness about toxicity in general and here against women. I started playing Valorant and liked the game very much till I started playing ranked with push to talk. I play on EU servers and it’s so often That I just say something gamerelated and then immediately get called out by a male or rarely even female as female and stuff. The weirdest things I experienced was my second time on Breeze a couple of days ago. I came into a group with a quite toxic Sage that kept on „giving advice“ through tough situations so loud that you couldn’t even hear footsteps anymore and he kept on blaming a female Jett for kind of anything and picked on my female friend for no reason. But to the most craziest part: I protected my friend and Jett cause she was polite and good even though he kept on saying she wasn’t. And then he started calling me Baby and his future wife and I told him several times to stop doing that and even told him I had a girlfriend (which I actually have but he didn’t care) I have to add I was the worst player cause it was a new map for me and I picked Breach for the first time ever and just for fun and had no idea how to use him and ended up with only one Kill but also with several plants and defuses cause the male Sage never left me alone and always rushed in in order to „protect me“ and getting all of the kills😅 It ended up with my friend muting everyone except me and the respectful male Sova on our team, Jett and Sage keeping on fighting over something in a language that sounded Turkish to me and me being carried, annoyed and confused by Sage at the very same time.... It was a very unpleasant situation but hey that was my worst experience so far soooo... also there are many male Gamers that are very respectful and helpful especially when we have one or two toxic guys in our team. So Shoutout to all of you friendly fellows: THANKS MAN👏👏👏
as an asian girl playing in the SEA server (singapore) I've always been shocked by the amount of times i watch NA girl gamers going through the insane toxicity in their matches, because i fortunately have never been flamed that much solely by my gender and its not even 10% as bad to the extent of what i've watched. This data gathered made a lot of sense and i am wishing that each server can decrease their toxicity more for everyone's enjoyment and safety
Tbh though I feel like in Australia it’s less gender bias to toxicity because people just talk shit no matter what, most of the time gender only dictates what the insult you’ll cop is, people in Australia just talk shit when you’re bottom fragging no matter what
I play Valorant with 2 dear girl-friends and the amount of toxicity we dealt with is unbelievable. No matter how good or bad we are, we are always blamed for EVERYTHING and the sexism never stops. The kitchen comment is very light in comparison with comments such us ''Your mother raised a h*e'' or ''Send your OF, you must certainly sell nudes'' etc Stay strong girls.
@@xaquariix Hurts the most when the guy simping is in a call with me and when he hears a girls voice he literally goes insane before *mildly* harassing the girl for the entirety of the game
from duo queueing with my girlfriend i can confirm that on eu toxicity towards women is really common and it pisses me off that i cant really do anything to stop it. it keeps ruining our games its so annoying.
idk if its just me or recently i've been noticing a decrease in toxicity towards women in valorant. could be because of the new voice comm reporting system but either way im glad
I noticed a lot more women talking on coms lately too, I'm sure it's the reporting/the new system working which is pretty great to get rid of these toxic people.
@Devansh ....ok mate lmao if u were above 12 u wud act a bit mature and try to understand and not be annoying but ok i dont really care about what u say :) and ur max like 14/15 cos ur yt gives a lot away lmao
A big misconception is the type of toxicity we get. I don’t care if someone says I’m bad or is just being toxic, everyone experiences this no matter what. My problem is when people are toxic towards you for being female even if you carrying the team they will find some way to just be plain rude,
The Mumbai server is hella toxic. The funniest part is, some of them assume that agents like Sage are only picked up by women, and they just keep spamming derogatory words in the chat against Sage.
I'm not a pro or something but I think it's below 14 guys who are toxic coz I'm a hard stuck iron and I have faced like 1 toxic guy per 16 games (comp) and honestly I think shit talking is more common in mumbai servers than toxicity Edit:- EU and NA servers are hell I once tried playing in a EU and they heard my voice and started being racist and after that match I realised people in mumbai servers aren't bad they are just frustrated if we approach them nice they calm down
I generally use voice chat a lot. As someone who has a deep voice, people get confused whether I’m a girl or a young boy. I don’t say anything because they’d either ; 1. Be chill with it and continue 2. Judge me for it and other mean things (more of a 50/50 situation.) Another weird thing I hate is that people think you are terrible at a game for being a girl.
For point 2, its kinda chicken and egg problem. people have suggestion that women is more often not playing a game of any kind. This is not being sexist, but i dont rmb theres a solid explanation to this. For ex, less women play chess than men, even tho the game have been established for very long time. This obviously create different top tier player pool for each gender (assuming fixed percentage of players reach top tier). With how esports have mostly man in the teams, this create false suggestion that woman cant play at top tier, even tho there is probably player at this level but dont want to show in public. And because the community is more toxic, less woman want to join the game. Sorry for the long essay xd
My girlfriend is Immortal and I'm in gold. We were duo queueing in Unrated and two boys were getting upset because I was bottom fragging, and afterwards because they find out that they were getting outperformed by a girl. They were being rude to me thinking I was the "girlfriend" getting carried by the "boyfriend" lmao (I guess we got matched with higher rated people cause I'm pretty bad and I couldn't go up against them). But then I told them that my gf is the one carrying (with her permission because she doesn't generally like letting randos know) and they told me to stop lying to them about her being a girl... I could hear their brain cells short circuit from here. Women are sensitive? Show a boy a woman is dropping 41 bombs and he immediately cries and wets his bed at night clinging on to his 20 kills. Also, this is in Asia server. They are either too much of a coward to be toxic in voice chat but they will type all sorts of dumb shit in text, or they will scream down their bad quality mic. There's no in between.
I play a ton of valorant and I'm in NAW. I dont know ehat its lije in NAE but in W I experience toxic players often but even if they know I'm a girl, they tend to ignore that fact which is good. Just wish they werent toxic at all lol
Dang this is just sad and embarrassing to people all around the world. Whenever I encounter a toxic player I just stay positive and encourage my team to mute the person being toxic.
One thing i want to know is the ranks, cuz in csgo there is pretty much no toxic players ive queued with (in eu) on the higher ranks but when i played in 2019 i was a pretty low rank and pretty much 6/10 players were really toxic.
Im a guy but a trick is to play with a friend or a few of them because when there's a toxic kid we shut them up pretty quickly because usually the toxic kids don't play with other people and u wonder why
@@djdhshshhshdhdbsudysyshsg6151 By going to the settings while in-game, you would immediately see the player chat options. You could choose who to mute in voice/text chat through there.
Hii fellow girl Valorant player here! I've been playing for about 2-3 months now and within my first month playing I had already heard everything. Valorant is one of the less-toxic games I've played, most of the men I've played with will only ask for socials (mostly snap) and pics. I used to play Overwatch and my experience was very different, I was often given the more toxic reactions like rape threats and constant misogynistic jokes. Although the two experiences were very different neither one is better than the other, please just respect each other and have fun, a girl might actually like you if you're kind and just trying to have fun in game.
Great video, and thank you for your efforts in collecting this data. I suspect this was not a statistically significant sample size, but the data certainly suggests what we all intuitively suspect to be true: women experience more toxicity overall, and more toxicity specifically on account of their gender while gaming. The fact that any somewhat randomized sample of female gamers would see rates of toxicity as high as *fifty percent* is flatly ridiculous. It's 2021 , and this is a pathetic state of affairs for gaming, e-sports, and VALORANT. We all have to do better.
and this is why i almost never talk unless i'm queued with a male friend. the chances of being exposed to toxicity for being a girl are way too high, don't wanna risk it
That is the main reason why I don't play ranked matches in any game usually, lol, people in quick plays, normal games and unranked matches are way more chill, but it can still be weird sometimes so I just mostly don't talk in chat and just talk in discord with my friends
From my personal experience when partying with a female they dont usually receive toxicity until they play poorly or we start losing then toxic comments towards their gender usually start
as a girl playing val, my weirdest encounter was somone spamming my ears with "sit on my face", i would prefer 10000 times to be "sent back to the kitchen" rather than being s.a.-ed bc i wanna give info on voice
As a girl myself I never use mic unless I am 100% sure that my team is not toxic, or unless there are a few females (2+ [including me] ) on my team and lastly if someone is being toxic towards someone excessively, I would usually step in and then receive the same toxic treatment lol🤗
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Hey guys! Here's a follow up to the last vid about toxicity. With everything that's been going on with women in gaming, I figured it was time to make this video. Hope you enjoy! Also, I'm live on Twitch right now so come over and let's talk about stuff ;)
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Yo just wanted to let you know your hashtags aren’t working right because the discord tags are above the actual hashtags in the description, so youtube uses the first 3 discord tags as hashtags
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Hello, nice presentation. I just wanted to ask why you didn't add already existing research on the topic, before adding your own study into the Valorant experience particularly? It could add a lot of value if you used this data and compare it to what was already known about gaming toxicity in general, especially to see if Valorant were more toxic than other communities. For example men experience more harassments than women while being online in general, which is known, but a hypothesis might be (based on this) that women perhaps experience more toxicity while playing FPSes.
I am an indian and i play in asian server but compared to female and male toxicity the boys do not get angry on the girls they try yo hit on them and try to be the top fraggers to impress them
If a guy plays bad he gets flamed for being bad if a girl plays bad she gets flamed for being a girl. Thats my experience most of the time.
Man.
if a girl plays well she gets flamed for being a girl, from my experience anyways
@@dhessn 100% true.
@@dhessn wdym u play well anf still get flamed?
@@Nbunasuis24 yeah, of course, and other females aswell, there are some videos showing it on some channels of female streamers.
As an asian i rarely get toxic cuz when i curse in voice chat my mom will come in with the slippers
Asian people. Divided by borders united by fear of mom's slipper
Exactly💀
Chat: *am I a joke to you?*
True
She brings the slippers and ask you to gtfo the house wearing those😂
Asia isn't toxic but each comp match feels like a world tournament
Either that or all aim no brain andys
@@lethinhphong yeah you can say that lol
Exactly xD
Yup
Tryhard 1000x
i did this as an experiment i changed my username to a girl name and a huge majority of my games had guys flirting with me blaming me randomly and just harrasing me in vc. then i would talk and they would evaporate
This is just sad
wait for them to simp and use voice changer and ask for operators and stuff and then near the end reveal that you were a trap hahahha
thats so weird because I have felt the opposite actually! I used to use a regular gaming username and the second I would talk everyone would be shocked that there was a girl in the game and either insult me or try to "woo" me or whatever, but since I changed my username to my first name I feel like it happens less. I assumed it was because they have already read my name so when I talk they already know that I'm a girl, but I'm sure everyone's experience is different
@@LimeCoookie i didnt realize my comment got popular like that, but im not sure if this is the case but i changed it to a chinese alias similar to me name in chinese (but more feminine) and from what i know i believe people see asians as more soft and "easy" in a sense i could go into all of my biases but its difficult to explain how i see it
@@justinlim7506 i usually get my girlfriend to ask them for nitro and shit cuz im to much of a bitch to do that
i think the reason why 14-18yo gamer boys are toxic towards women is because they can freely talk to them hiding behind their anon, in real life they are probably to scared to even talk to a girl/woman
That’s the exact reason lol
So true
It is sad, they are the future of our world xd
14-18yo gamers are toxic towards everyone
@@Кошмар-э1л most of them are just sad cringe. You almost feel pity for them.
Im a woman playing valorant and I really had to start hiding my name after a few days of playing duo queue. I was being insulted, objectified, simped for (also by the enemy team) and harassed in voice and text chat almost every game even though I never said anything or fuelled their hatred/misogyny. If I played bad, idiots would blame it on my gender. If I top fragged, they would call me fat & ugly. Now that I've hidden all the information that could lead to players thinking I'm female, my games are a lot more peaceful.
Noice
Fucking hell , that sounds like a nightmare......sorry for what happened....
exactly! and sometimes i dont have the energy to defend myself but I don't want to just mute since I feel the need to prove them wrong or something. but at the end of the day whenever we play well and we get insulted personally we just know the persons now just desperate and has nothing else to yell at us so
i feel so bad for you. I am generally afraid when i queuing with my female friends, cause they are beginners and i dont want them to get the impression what valorant is from its community. They never comm and i usually comm for them its very sad the way it is
@@sohan8933 man oh man i wouldnt breathe without doing so. but sometimes I'm too tired to deal with bullshit like that so i type in the all chat to report them
Thats why my female friend acts as a guy online. Reverse catfish. Genius.
lmaooo
wait.........
@@AyushKumar-oy1zv what
i do that too. i act like a guy when I'm online. sometimes i just don't have the energy to defend myself sometimes or because its so tiring and dumb to dealing with people like that
@@evan1461 i thought you were being played by some guy as a joke
im dumb sry
@@nothingnothingnothing31 it’s sad that you even have to do that :( but thank you for sharing your experience and I hope it gets easier for you!!
some guy said to me "did i hurt your feelings? welcome to the real world sweetheart" as if his mum doesn't pay his rent.
exactly, its just
_buddy, just because you insult someone and they slightly acknowledge it doesn’t mean they’re gonna cry about it_
When you suck at video games so you have to blame it on anything else
kyedae literally had the EXACT same experience..
LOL like girls know exactly what real world is. Not those freaky creepy men.
As if he cant even talk to women in real life so he copes in a toxic hateful way hiding behind a screen. Thats the real world bro.
I don't have a very deep voice at all so everytime somebody asks me "are you a little kid or a girl" I legit just say i'm a kid because I get less harassment that way lol
Lol same
@Devansh i dont think riot games can fix this problem either. I’d rather pretend im a kid than Get harassed every other game. And it helps me enjoy the game so i dont see the problem in doing it
SAME
@Devansh dont act like riot are gonna do anything lmao
@Devansh I'd rather not, I want to play the game not waste my time arguing with people in every match. I'm also not "presenting as a kid", all I do is just say "yeah" if they ask if i'm a kid (or just say "no" if they ask if i'm a girl) then leave it at that and mute if they continue to bother me.
i don’t necessarily experience “toxicity” from most games but it’s distracting and just rude sometimes when a guy will constantly be asking for socials or asking if I’m hot, it is kinda hilarious how blown away they are by a girl existing
Nah its coz most gamers have never seen grass irl let alone a girl. Dw its only the weirdos who do this
its just surprising to see women playing the game. Although now I see more and more women playing they just don't use mic
@@sebaschan-uwu yeah me personally, I prefer to not use mic. It’s actually quite detrimental in comp scenarios, and sometimes I’m forced to. but it’s hard because I’m one of those people that gets nervous and doesn’t take flaming well.
Yeah, I'm 15 and ofc people don't know that online but being asked my cup size in video games is just 😬
Or when I'm match mvp, unmute, and they start throwing and killing me until I give my socials or say sexual phrases- that's not how you get a girlfriend? This happens every 4th comp game i swear they always keep me from ranking up by throwing games that were super winnable.
the fact that we need "experiment" to show that women goes through these everyday in the gaming communities... bruh we just want to play the fucking game
I feel like the extreme toxicity in men that occurs is subject to the stereotypes of gender and all that. It's way less likely for women to play games compared to men, but even further it's even less likely for women to play FPS and shooter games. When men see it they just get this reaction in them that finds it unnatural, and when they perform poorly, it's all a blame of gender because it's unusual to see a woman playing a shooter.
Whenever I play with a friend on Valorant, we make jokes that sometimes seem toxic, like we'll scream at eachother as if we aren't duo queued and such, and if another person interferes we'll team up on them and curse at them but in a way that they should be able to tell we're not being serious. I've had situations where we curse at women on our team, but our teammates tell enemies to report us because they think we're mad because of their gender, but it's just the way we treat everyone in order to have fun.
@@oakles First of all you're completely wrong about women being less likely to play games. There are tons of women who play games including FPS ones, they just aren't verbal about it or speak in voicechat because of the amount of toxic males. It isn't unusual and I can tell you're a male because you clearly haven't done your research about it.
On your other statements that's just on you. If you don't clarify that you're joking people are bound to take it seriously especially if you're cursing at a woman because again, women are treated horribly in games. Most of the comments we get are written off as "jokes" because males don't want to take responsibility for the amount of toxic bs they spew out. Regardless if you were joking or not it's not up to you to brush it off as a joke because you aren't the one being cursed at by random strangers. So just don't be stupid is what i'm trying to get at. Sounds like you're being dense on purpose.
@@kkillri late reply, but you are also incorrect about the amount of females playing videos games, in 2020 a statistic of 60% of males were casual gamers, and 40% of women were casual gamers (Source: www.statista.com/statistics/232383/gender-split-of-us-computer-and-video-gamers/) (2nd Source: quanticfoundry.com/2017/01/19/female-gamers-by-genre/)
Not only that, but a very little percentage of casual gamer females play fps, so yes, he was correct that women are way less likely to play FPS. I’m not sure of the 5% of female gamers are core gamers is true, but it seems reasonable since gaming has been male dominated for years upon years for the reason that they appealed to males.
A few simple searches and you can see that you were wrong about it, no need to add that last sentence either. A game with a high female base is Dead by Daylight, so if you had said something about that I would understand, but this is FPS, a male dominated scene.
If you want more sources here you go
(www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamify.com/gamification-blog/not-all-games-are-created-equal-pt1%3fhs_amp=true)
(www.radford.edu/~mzorrilla2/thesis/differencesinplay.html)
(This one skewed the female base a little bit but still, you get it: techjury.net/blog/video-game-demographics/#gref)
Have a nice day
@@oakles tbh, that kind of behavior just ruins the game for me and others. I need to hear sounds and audio cues and screaming at ur friends in vc isn't helping.
@@Lianzi_Spl Thats why its unrated, i dont know what to tell you.
I only play with people I know bec people really can get toxic. If I do end up solo queuing, i will only use the text chat to communicate until i feel like the team is safe enough to speak in. That would mostly happen if another girl is speaking in the team lol
From people straight up mollying me, walling me out, giving away my position, trash talking me even if I'm doing okay in-game (or not - still not cool), excessive simping, asking if I'm a girl multiple times, asking for socials - I've just decided it's safer to avoid soloing if I want to enjoy the game 😬
Really sucks that this happens so much more to women. I'm very sorry that you have had to experience this
@@frederickaiza7354 probably means people being creepy
@@frederickaiza7354 oh boi it is you just haven't seen one yet
I understand your pain and I have witnessed it multiple times. But don't think every boy/man is like that. These are a few idiots shouting the loudest. It's not like you would be in danger to encounter always ppl like that. Me and my friend are just trying to climb. Don't care if our bottom fragger is a male or a female. It's as I said: those toxic idiots are just the ones shouting the loudest. So pls, use vc, pls communicate. Most ppl only want to climb. And if there's a player who just doesn't say anything and never gives info really makes those ppl angry.
join the discord server galorants! 12,000 all female members!
Im a guy and I rarely talk in voice chat, I only talk when I get teammates that wants to win. And that is rare. Yesterday I got two toxic teammates that was constantly blaming, calling me shit and threw the game. He didn’t stop talking and writing for a second. He even sent me a friend request just to talk even more shit with his 3 other friends in his lobby. Why do these sad people even play this game? And why doesn’t they get heavy penaltised for this? Hope they get a 3 month vacation
They talk shit cuz they see u as a easy target to take out there frustration on
unfortunately this happens. I've learned the best choice is to mute so that I can focus on the game and enjoy it better. Don't let them ruin your day.
Mute function takes 3 clicks wow so hard
Taking a break from the game helps
That’s actually sad, honestly if this happens again just mute and take deep breaths before you get back into the game because their comments will make you unconsciously tilt and even though they’re muted you’d feel embarrassed by your plays and think about what they’d say. Just don’t forget to report them at the end
It's really sad to see this.
theres so much missing info lmao
@@RJ-zl9vj but there still enough info that women aren't being treated fairly like men, which is very sad to hear
Axolotl is a larva right?
Whalequid the data results are quite similar among just men too, the 78% toxicity rate when losing is pretty much with everyone, it’s becuase people get mad they’re losing and if they’re stacked they won’t blame their mates, they’ll just be toxic to the random, it’s pretty consistent with valorant, I play with roughly 50/50 males to females (close irl friends and long time discord friends) and it’s generally similar in that whenever you’re losing the teammates will be just as toxic to the guys as the girls, I’m in Australia though so I guess that might have a factor and what I do notice is when someone is being toxic to a guy they’ll just call him a cunt or “trash at the bottom” etc whereas with the women it’s almost always “get back in the kitchen” or “go make me a sandwich” or even “show me your tits if we clutch” toxicity to women is just less creative because guys only insult girls by being sexist
@@RJ-zl9vj I meant it is sad, because women get insulted simply because of their gender. sexism is stll prominent, even if most of them arent that hard core
as a girl, i dont use voice comms, I usually get my bf to comm for me in-game because how toxic valorant is in gold.
That's me too, i tell my bf the info then he relays it to them
That's really sad.. I'm so annoyed that people are so toxic
Its so bad because realistically at least one of the 10 people in a valorant lobby spend their entire day playing and have no social lives. Just cus they are good at left clicking on people it makes them think that they are the shit. Its so unfortunate for girls at the moment and with all the storys im reading its all just so fucked up
Them egos be stonking
Thats why I play CS:GO. Idk about you, but I meet like toxic players in my team once in 10 games or something.
Shout out to my fellow solo queue girls it's a tough world out there
It really is 🙏🏽
+1 T-T
Yup
Yea, no kidding. The moment they find out you're a girl in a solo queue match you get hounded.
Literally almost never solo queue because my confidence in my abilities goes so low I end up throwing every match
Losing brings toxicity but toxicity brings losses too since everyone is in a foul mood and not doing their best
we asians respect woman, i befriended a woman in a game and she gave me advice about adult life and some tips. She helped me find my dream job and told me "just keep working at the job u just started and after a long time you can quit"
i guess it's more of the fact the gender roles of asians( based on my personal experience) is actually more equal than the gender roles in other countries.
but you can my word to a grain of salt as Im technically a kid(ish??)
EU and NA love to shit on Asia for sexism and misogyny when they're so much worse. Lmao
@@etheriongaming517 As a North American I run into tons of toxic players in Valorant. Apex Legends has servers for practically every single state, as I live in a pretty developed area and I’d assume this is why I run into way less toxic players in Apex Legends, just a hypothesis, toxic players unfortunately exist in every game.
nah mostly were just simps
@@idkwhatswhat2382 i personally think it depends, but countries where Western influence is more prevalent, the sexism is way worse. But for most of it, the people I've played with are nice.
half the games is quite a lot of games. and think about it, if a woman has experienced toxicity and misogyny in HALF of their games, they’re likely to not trust voice chat in ALL of their games, because they’ll never know when they will get ripped apart for simply being a woman. so for people who say “it’s just 50%,” reconsider how it may affect all of the games.
Ripped apart I have learned not to get worked up about dumb shit like something a toxic says if your getting ripped apart by toxic people then either don't use mic or maybe valorant isn't the game 4 u it's sad to say but the gaming industry as a whole is toxic not much you can do other than ignore it
@@sneakysquid2893 bad mindset tbh, voice chat in games has been slowly improving thanks to videos like this and better moderation, if it's "just how it is" why is Asia so much better, and why is it improving over the years
honestly i cant play any game outside of one or two in my comfort zone. i have a mic but i refuse to use it in fear of misogyny and toxicity lol
"asia is the least toxic region"
me on philippine servers: *Doubt*
Sadly yeah :(( I encounter people who get easily tilted when I solo queue..
If you can, try Singapore 1. There are nice people and some filipinos playing there
@AssassinAcademy my country Philippines are known to be really toxic on competitive games like Valorant.
Well, that's where your wrong kiddo. Git gud and they will never have an excuse to be toxic or either way just mute them that's easy as that.
@@antoinvaleroso4773 Ah yes I am totally not trying to get good by playing this game alot
it is so difficult for me. i feel like in general people are a lot more toxic towards me because of my voice. its very egirlish, and people assume im whispering and doing it on purpose. i have a lot of speech issues and it is so difficult for me to talk at a normal level, and even then my voice will still sound "egirlish". its so disheartening and just breaks my spirit. ill just be vibing, make a call and some guy will be like "why are you whispering?" n shit. i messed up a raze's jump and he told me to kill myself and i said "yikes" or something in vc and he said "oh no wonder youre trash, youre a woman. shut the fuck up already and end your life." i was not only top fragging but had the least amount of deaths and had an ace. i wasnt doing trash at all i just accidentally got in his way once. and thats how he reacted. so many people have told me to kms in valorant because im a girl. it just breaks my heart.
i'm so sorry that happened to you. keep going, girl
i am experienced similar things after i used to that i started to break their heart and step on them they really dont deserve anything disgusting piece of shits
@@zhen_xi I'm so sorry u feel that way. I know what it's like to be trashtalked and frequently telling me to leave the game. Idk where it from but Tokyo servers are usually very friendly. Hope u experience a lot of fun gamings in the future!
They don't realize how sexist comments can hurt women. I cried multiple times because of instinces like yours...
I wish Riot would have stronger bans... this is just ridiculous and terrible behaviour
I admire your courage. no one really stands up for women in video games because they’re scared of being called a simp or something like that. keep it up!
bruh, my toxicity ends up me clowning myself.
Awareness is the first step ✨
glad that ur aware
there are younger people who still aren't
@@maxim6088 i didn't ask
@@ritvikboom9464 bro stfu your part of the problem. This guy is like showing his heart out man.
@@ritvikboom9464 did i ask if you asked homie? what sorta goofy-ass elementary school humor comment is this?
Ah Eggwick the most intellectual Valorant gamer
This does not change the fact that in Australia there are 48 million kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan will have to fight 14 kangaroos
This is an alarming fact
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that Bungee Gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum.
@@zyonicyt these facts are insane! Thanks for the fun info brothers have a great week
@@zyonicyt this cracked me
can't disagree
2:22 this shouldnt be the background vid cuz i totally focused on the whiff
I have a friend that's like whenever there's a female he's like friend requesting and inviting to our group just because they're female it's honestly cringe and annoying, he's not a bad guy but sometimes he's gotta chill
Then tell him it's not okay. One of the major problem is, that non-misogynistic men don't call their misoginyst peers out. So, the creeps feel safe and justified in their behaviour.
I’m a boy, but since I’m younger, my voice is higher pitched. I don’t talk very much, but when I do, people tell me to shut up because of my voice. I truly enjoy valorant as a game, and when I get teammates that are kind, and understanding that it’s just a game, It makes me want to play more.
I've just read the spreadsheet, The amount of people asking them what's their snap or insta / sent friend requests is shocking and kinda sad ngl.
I play on NA valorant and mostly all the games where I've had a female in my team someone has asked for some sort of social media. Seemed cringe ngl
Might just be me, but, I feel as if asking for a social and/or sending friend requests isn’t really bad unless the person is clearly not interested or if turns into blatant harassment. Some people genuinely just wanna talk to others and aren’t trying to be rude or offensive.
@@israelmontero4762 yup, You're right 'bout that.
@@israelmontero4762 But I feel like they're just being simps as well, at least some part of them
@@israelmontero4762 I have never seen anyone ask a dude using mic for his snap/insta/socials. Ever lmfao. Farthest is discord and that's relatively normal if you want to keep queueing with them, but because of the game and not because they're a boy (hence if you flip gender.... Well, yeah).
Honestly, the worst thing is that whenever a female opens up the mic my team loses the game. Everyone just loses their shit and the goal of the game suddenly becomes wooing the e-girl rather than winning the competitive match. Bonus points if it's some 40 y.o Turkish guy asking for an e-girls insta
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Hey tbh i think the rhetoric of "egirl" kinda encourages the idea that women or girls playing games is diff or weird, since its like giving girls who play games a nickname or name, and since guys who play games dont have a nickname specifically tied to their gender, it creates that difference between girls and guys with even just the words we use.. I know you probably didn't mean harm in using that word but I thought I would let you know. thank you ^^
@@snowbird7254 Yee,,, I didn't mean that; however, you right. Shouldn't make labels like that. Thanks for making me think
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i sound like a 14 year old boy on voice chat so i’m good 🙏
I have run into so many people where i cant tell if they are a young boy or a high pitched girl. Either way, doesnt change the way you speak to em, just curiousity.
I just stopped talking on voice. I only talk in comp. The reason was that one time i made a joke directly to someone that was weird (i thought it was a boy, and i just usually play around like that) and it was a girl. I still feel regret to this day about making that joke
U are more likely to be insulted if you are a kid than you are a girl LOL
Not going to deny that girls get harassed online but lmao guys are actually more forgiving if not equal if you are a girl, at least from where I'm at.
@@Nbunasuis24 same here
I play valorant and I'm in Asia and there is a lot of girls who play valorant. When I queue to female gamers I just treat them normally and everybody in the voice chat does the same and the only time I experience something weird is just not that bad. I really feel bad for other regions.
I play on the EU server AND NA server with my bf and I have experienced more toxicity in the NA region than the EU one. But it’s still toxic. Tbh Asia sounds nice right about now🥺
Really appreciate you making this vid and continuing to hammer home on this issue. It’s likely more important and impactful than even your gameplay guides on improving the experience of players, and my hope is that it will make your audience consider how prevalent a problem this is in gaming as a whole.
Whenever you try to help them I get called. A. Simp instantly
Yeah it's so fcked up
that word is so overused people don’t know how to properly use it anymore
To be fair, there's a lot of actual simps who instantly become obsessed with being nice to a female player, just to get virtual cookie points. I'm not saying you're one of them, but I just wish people could treat female gamers exactly the same as they'd treat male gamers, instead of being overly nice or creepy or harassing them.
@@thundervoid420 Then you get a bunch of woman whining about toxicity still lol...everyone wants to be treated the same till the see the not so nice sides of equal treatment.
@@keonkla dude I could care less of teammate was toxic to me in general, it's when all of their comments are directed at me being a girl. It's annoying when dudes throw because you're a girl or because you wont give them your snap. Thats the part most people are annoyed about
I literally just got a game with a girl gamer and the other guys were so damn toxic it was actually so damn infuriating, just let them play how fkin hard is that
I think the best thing we normal players can do is to back up the person being harassed. Don't just sit quietly there and listen to people insulting others. It's not even dependant on gender or anything. If someone is being harassed, support them and tell the bully how shit they are
In my experience, that makes things worse :). They either gotta take it, deal it, or leave it. Goes for both genders.
This is why as a girl I don’t talk on valorant and other games. I only talk if the people are nice or my friends.
one of the few videos telling me that apac has the lowest rate of toxicity
@@swqs0wen no Asia Pacific
I can’t tell you how many times guys asked me for socials or for me to follow them & when I say no they full on start harassing me or flaming me. Even worse I once had a guy who somehow found out I was a girl even though I didn’t talk & my name isn’t a dead giveaway & for the entire game of val he just followed me around shouting at me & when he died because he wasn’t even paying attention just following me, he blamed it all on me. It blows my mind how often I see this happen to me or my friends, or even just other girls that are in the game. I’ve gotten better at just ignoring people but it doesn’t mean that it’s okay. 🤷🏻♀️ even my guy friends talk trash about girls who game & they’re just like, “well you’re basically a boy so it’s fine we’re not talking about you”- like.. that doesn’t help dude I still don’t want to hear that ever from anyone.
i agree, i made a catfish account with a voice changer, just wanted so see how bad it is personally (my sisters play this game lol), jesus i feel horrible for you girls, i got asked for my IG the whole game, asked for nudes, keeped getting team killed and harassed, i really feel bad for you, i play with my sisters a lot (they are new so they kinda suck lol) and i always try to encourage them, even randoms girl or not just be encouraging, you never know that little push might raise their courage and get you that carry (been carried by a lot of female randoms lol), just don't be a toxic dumbass all in all, keep at it i promise you, the games where you get good people that felling you get just makes going through a few shitty games worth it IMO
im so sorry you had to go through that :(, from what you've said, it kinda seems like your friends are misogynists. 'we're not talking about you, you're basically a boy'??? lol no that's not how it works dude
@@aliasalias738 sometimes I want to honestly, but I’ve known them for over 6 years. They’re not always like that it’s just sometimes, it should be never but aaa what can you do.
@@GoldstarVFX that’s a big commitment you made just to see how bad it can be, but I’m glad you did because most people would just be like “oh well it’s toxic for guys too sooo just get over it” but when you have it happen to you you’re kinda just like... wtf?? I always try to encourage people, especially if it’s a soft spoken woman in game because I can just tell they’re nervous. I’m 21 now so I can ignore some of the bs people say but when I was younger it seriously hurt me & steered me away from playing shooters & such. I’ve had some wonderful games with both men & women, not everyone is toxic and it is worth it to just keep playing through it when there are people like that, it just sucks that there are people that go out of their way to make you feel bad. I agree with you 100% though, just be nice to everyone you play with because you never know what’s going on- they could be brand new or having a bad day & just nice uplifting words could really help them & not only make them feel good but honestly help them play better. 🤍
@@amtrixieit’s alright, I mean sometimes they can be but they mostly just say stuff like that because I’m gay & I do dress more like a boy than a girl. 🤦🏻♀️ it doesn’t make it alright & I do tell them off if they start getting way out of line, I’ve known them all for a long time so I know they’re not always like this it just sucks when they are because I do love them it’s just hard to change what’s been ingrained into their heads. It’s really sad to see a lot of boys grow up making or hearing stupid sexist jokes & then really believing them to a degree when they’re older.
I one time was top fragging as Sage in valorant like I was carrying and these two boys they sounded like kids honestly kept on screaming into there Mic and I asked them not to they put two and two together of me being a girl and just amped there levels to unbearable. Like I was winning the game for them and they just kept on screaming and harrasing me. Like I asked them to stop mulitple times and it got so bad where I legit had a panic attack while in game.
I mean yea thats bad but u couldve muted them
@@Robi-wd5zx Fr idk y people dont think of that bro its insane
the fact when i always duo with my friend (a girl) and when were in a public game and she does bad she gets blamed for being a girl is just sad to see
I was on a game where I had a woman teammate and basically all the other people on the team were just spouting generic insults towards her, but she was also kinda toxic, so basically the whole match was just a woman and 3 children screaming at each other, we lost that game
This is really sad. I had no idea what women went through until someone said I was probably a woman cause I choked a round.
As a female gamer this really was interesting. I’ve been tempted to start tracking the toxicity in games on a spreadsheet myself.
Asia does have as many toxic players as other regions but since we all are taught to be polite to everyone, fewer people actually go through with being toxic
Every game im in with a women is just people simping and asking for numbers
I guess that was considered toxic as well
In the last matches I fell with a woman, nobody pissed her off
Thank you for making this! Too many people think that this isn't as big of a problem as it truly is. Your gender shouldn't matter in video games. I hope that there will come a day when girls no longer have to feel anxious about using comms
As a man of culture, respecting women is my biggest priority
Pov: you're a simp
@@mortis3732 pov: you get no bitches so you whine when other men treat women normal
As a gurl, i dont really use my mic in any of the games I play. usually its bc i just dnt feel comfortable or im too shy but its mainly bc guys r sometimes rlly toxic >:(
I don't play comp and just play casually in unrated because there were so much toxicity in comp.
I play compi,but I don't have any intention to get a rank. I just play with my friends only. I don't enjoy multiplayer games unless I play with my friends. I used to play a lot of csgo in the past years, watching how to videos about rank pushing. The toxicity ruined the game for me. I switched to story mode games and have had a great experience.
It's always such a relief when someone defends you. The only thing that sucks is that the guy who stood up for you will end up being called a white night or something and getting hated on as well. It's so sad. :(
Tip for everyone out there: If someone is being toxic just turn off voice chat for them
some people have made videos about this actually! while muting might seem like a good idea, there's still the chance they throw or try and kill you in game. I can't remember her name, but someone made a video where after she muted toxic teammates, they mollied her, walled her, threw grenades at her, bodyblocked her and so much more that prevented her from playing the game. So while this isn't always the case, it's still an annoying thing you have to deal with :( so overall it's a tough situation, but muting can help in some cases!
sometimes It's comp and I have to sit through the harassment just to get coms from them
Im a male from EU and In my last 10 I had 4 or 5 games that were so toxic that were at least a 8 on a scale from 0-10. You can’t solo queue this game, because you get either get trolls, people that disconnect, people that don’t talk at all or people that are just toxic.
when i duoq with a female friend of mine people are almost guarenteed to simp/ask for nudes and socials its really sad how toxic the Valorant community is
Thats been my experience with most competitive games, the community just tends towards toxicity
yeep simps are everywhere in our country. PeepoSad
Its disgusting how people will go out of their way to say stuff like "go back to the kitchen" or bully a random female for trying to play a game. Regardless of gender everyone should have the ability to enjoy games.
honestly toxicity is high in a few servers (Asia) others are really good and non toxic
Low elo asia servers are toxic, but its less
@@swqs0wen tru
@@swqs0wen the players are super chill/super toxic
@@swqs0wen even deathmatch
They either chill when winning or toxic when losing lol.
Thanks very much for making this video. I think the type of guys who harass girls (or just don’t think its a big deal) are very unlikely to listen to a woman talk about this stuff. Its really helpful for a dude to make this and maybe change some opinions of people who think this stuff doesn’t happen.
Im a guy but because my voice is very high pitched some guys have tried to hit on me hahahahaha
Lol your one of my kind I see. I have a high pitch and I like to smoothen it out so its not too high pitch and when I hear my own voice when its smoothen out through a mic like "Damn"
Very encouraged to see this video and all of the support from your community on it. Toxicity has no place in gaming. Games are for fun, not for bullying. It's sad to see how casual and common sexism, homophobia, and racism have become.
But these videos are absolutely helping. The world needs to know. People should be held accountable for what they say.
I can't wait to see what else you have, and would love to brainstorm ideas on solutions to toxicity in gaming. I'm very passionate about it as well and have been doing some research/data collection of my own. Keep up the positive vibes. Cheers.
I love your content man! :D
Keep up the work :D
Once I heard that female players don't use voice chat because they are afraid of toxicity, and I realized that's actually true, I've played with many girls who didn't use voice chat until the end of the match or they spend half of the match without talking, and that's a shame because if we all could communicate we could play better, but I understand why they don't talk and it's horrible. They deserve to play and enjoy games just like men do
In addition, I think the best we can do as "non-toxic" players for women is to make them feel safe when they play, congratulate their good plays, not insulting for bad plays and of course, not harassing and being misogynist. I and I say to women because they have more issues regarding toxicity than men
Do one about being younger because in every game there’s an 17 yr old telling me to go back to school and shit like that
Valorant is PEGI 16 lol
@@destraac still not cool to bully younger ones
@@matze1652 yea i know
It's not that deep
@@kkillri what do you mean?
I usually play with my best friend (who's a girl) and she barely uses vc usually when she does 90% of the times there are people asking for her socials or trying to flirt with her I remember sometimes she even asks me to ask for weapons for her from others at times, plus the worst part is that she isn't even interested in guys (lesbian) this makes her even more uncomfortable when people try to flirt with her
(I'm a guy btw and I'm helping her get together with a girl she likes since I know that girl rather well)
I have a soundboard, with raze voicelines, (loads of people don't notice it's raze) and I feels special when I use it to say hello and yes/no to questions in agent select, everyone is always waaaay nicer, and people are way more willing to say hello back over voice, rather than say nothing or type hello in chat if I use my own, male, voice.
Thx carolina
@@destraac idk wtf you're trying to say but, np, thanks for thanking me patricia
Thank you so much for spreading the awareness about toxicity in general and here against women. I started playing Valorant and liked the game very much till I started playing ranked with push to talk. I play on EU servers and it’s so often That I just say something gamerelated and then immediately get called out by a male or rarely even female as female and stuff.
The weirdest things I experienced was my second time on Breeze a couple of days ago.
I came into a group with a quite toxic Sage that kept on „giving advice“ through tough situations so loud that you couldn’t even hear footsteps anymore and he kept on blaming a female Jett for kind of anything and picked on my female friend for no reason.
But to the most craziest part: I protected my friend and Jett cause she was polite and good even though he kept on saying she wasn’t. And then he started calling me Baby and his future wife and I told him several times to stop doing that and even told him I had a girlfriend (which I actually have but he didn’t care) I have to add I was the worst player cause it was a new map for me and I picked Breach for the first time ever and just for fun and had no idea how to use him and ended up with only one Kill but also with several plants and defuses cause the male Sage never left me alone and always rushed in in order to „protect me“ and getting all of the kills😅
It ended up with my friend muting everyone except me and the respectful male Sova on our team, Jett and Sage keeping on fighting over something in a language that sounded Turkish to me and me being carried, annoyed and confused by Sage at the very same time....
It was a very unpleasant situation but hey that was my worst experience so far soooo...
also there are many male Gamers that are very respectful and helpful especially when we have one or two toxic guys in our team.
So Shoutout to all of you friendly fellows: THANKS MAN👏👏👏
I swear when I bottom frag everyone flames me but when a girl bottom frags they start to simp even more
for real
as an asian girl playing in the SEA server (singapore) I've always been shocked by the amount of times i watch NA girl gamers going through the insane toxicity in their matches, because i fortunately have never been flamed that much solely by my gender and its not even 10% as bad to the extent of what i've watched. This data gathered made a lot of sense and i am wishing that each server can decrease their toxicity more for everyone's enjoyment and safety
You forget Oceania, now specifically Australia, which guarantees 2 toxic players per lobby
Tbh though I feel like in Australia it’s less gender bias to toxicity because people just talk shit no matter what, most of the time gender only dictates what the insult you’ll cop is, people in Australia just talk shit when you’re bottom fragging no matter what
yeah, brazil too, i would be happy to help with spreading info but i dont usually use voice chat bc of harassment.
@@Kaoticreeper This guy gets it
OCE is part of APAC, included under Asian servers. We had some OCE players in the experiment
I play Valorant with 2 dear girl-friends and the amount of toxicity we dealt with is unbelievable. No matter how good or bad we are, we are always blamed for EVERYTHING and the sexism never stops. The kitchen comment is very light in comparison with comments such us ''Your mother raised a h*e'' or ''Send your OF, you must certainly sell nudes'' etc Stay strong girls.
this might be biased but in my games the only thing happening is simping (not a girl, but if a girl is there)
tbh both simping and toxicity are disrespectful. when guys simp they dont actually see girls as individual persons
@@xaquariix Hurts the most when the guy simping is in a call with me and when he hears a girls voice he literally goes insane before *mildly* harassing the girl for the entirety of the game
@@wush2570 yea lmao
simping really is just a form of harassment most of the times
from duo queueing with my girlfriend i can confirm that on eu toxicity towards women is really common and it pisses me off that i cant really do anything to stop it. it keeps ruining our games its so annoying.
idk if its just me or recently i've been noticing a decrease in toxicity towards women in valorant. could be because of the new voice comm reporting system but either way im glad
I noticed a lot more women talking on coms lately too, I'm sure it's the reporting/the new system working which is pretty great to get rid of these toxic people.
@@orionstardust2060 yes i’m very happy about it. glad it’s getting bearable
Thank you eggwick. You really made my day. Hope to see more of this in the future! You fucking rock.
I Like playing with anyone :)
i hate toxic ppl :(
@Devansh ...ok
i meant to say that i like playing with anyone who isnt toxic
calm down 12 yr old :|
@Devansh ....ok mate lmao if u were above 12 u wud act a bit mature and try to understand and not be annoying but ok i dont really care about what u say :)
and ur max like 14/15 cos ur yt gives a lot away lmao
A big misconception is the type of toxicity we get. I don’t care if someone says I’m bad or is just being toxic, everyone experiences this no matter what. My problem is when people are toxic towards you for being female even if you carrying the team they will find some way to just be plain rude,
The Mumbai server is hella toxic. The funniest part is, some of them assume that agents like Sage are only picked up by women, and they just keep spamming derogatory words in the chat against Sage.
Trueee. I play in Mumbai on my alt acc and pretend to be a women. If they are toxic, I open the mic, let them know I'm a guy. And then throw the game.
I'm not a pro or something but I think it's below 14 guys who are toxic coz I'm a hard stuck iron and I have faced like 1 toxic guy per 16 games (comp) and honestly I think shit talking is more common in mumbai servers than toxicity
Edit:- EU and NA servers are hell I once tried playing in a EU and they heard my voice and started being racist and after that match I realised people in mumbai servers aren't bad they are just frustrated if we approach them nice they calm down
@@atharvatiwari3209 shit talking is fine. But being toxic is kinda lame.
@@rooftopastronomer2697 yep that's true best way to deal with toxicity is being thick skinned if u can't u can just mute toxic guy
I generally use voice chat a lot. As someone who has a deep voice, people get confused whether I’m a girl or a young boy. I don’t say anything because they’d either ;
1. Be chill with it and continue
2. Judge me for it and other mean things
(more of a 50/50 situation.)
Another weird thing I hate is that people think you are terrible at a game for being a girl.
For point 2, its kinda chicken and egg problem. people have suggestion that women is more often not playing a game of any kind. This is not being sexist, but i dont rmb theres a solid explanation to this. For ex, less women play chess than men, even tho the game have been established for very long time. This obviously create different top tier player pool for each gender (assuming fixed percentage of players reach top tier). With how esports have mostly man in the teams, this create false suggestion that woman cant play at top tier, even tho there is probably player at this level but dont want to show in public. And because the community is more toxic, less woman want to join the game.
Sorry for the long essay xd
no joke i would be laughing my ass off if someone said "you belong in the kitchen" to me
same hahahaha and i like to flirt too so im okay with that but if they are toxic imma be toxic back lmao
not in a toxic way, but always wanted to end up in icebox with a girl to tell her go hold kitchen lol
Omg ur a girl u have insta or snap
@@thishdude HAHAHAH and I main sage OMG
I'm not a girl, but I play support in League. I cannot count the times I've been told to go to the kitchen.
My girlfriend is Immortal and I'm in gold. We were duo queueing in Unrated and two boys were getting upset because I was bottom fragging, and afterwards because they find out that they were getting outperformed by a girl. They were being rude to me thinking I was the "girlfriend" getting carried by the "boyfriend" lmao (I guess we got matched with higher rated people cause I'm pretty bad and I couldn't go up against them). But then I told them that my gf is the one carrying (with her permission because she doesn't generally like letting randos know) and they told me to stop lying to them about her being a girl... I could hear their brain cells short circuit from here. Women are sensitive? Show a boy a woman is dropping 41 bombs and he immediately cries and wets his bed at night clinging on to his 20 kills. Also, this is in Asia server. They are either too much of a coward to be toxic in voice chat but they will type all sorts of dumb shit in text, or they will scream down their bad quality mic. There's no in between.
hey eggwick, for NA can you split it up into NAE and NAW, I wanna see if there's a difference between them.
shouldn't think the difference will be perceivable on a sample size that small unfortunately
I play a ton of valorant and I'm in NAW. I dont know ehat its lije in NAE but in W I experience toxic players often but even if they know I'm a girl, they tend to ignore that fact which is good. Just wish they werent toxic at all lol
Dang this is just sad and embarrassing to people all around the world. Whenever I encounter a toxic player I just stay positive and encourage my team to mute the person being toxic.
Bro dude I lost it when you said one guy acted like he was one of the person boyfriend.
One thing i want to know is the ranks, cuz in csgo there is pretty much no toxic players ive queued with (in eu) on the higher ranks but when i played in 2019 i was a pretty low rank and pretty much 6/10 players were really toxic.
You guys should check out kyedaes vid when she got teamed up with toxic teammates, but its still sad to hear about this.
lmao that vid was bs she was more toxic than her teammates XD
Im a guy but a trick is to play with a friend or a few of them because when there's a toxic kid we shut them up pretty quickly because usually the toxic kids don't play with other people and u wonder why
I can confirm lots of men on Valorant can be very toxic towards women - it’s frustrating to deal with. Thank goodness for the mute button 🤷♀️
You can mute people? How?
but if you mute you ain't getting karma on reddit
shhh
@@djdhshshhshdhdbsudysyshsg6151 By going to the settings while in-game, you would immediately see the player chat options. You could choose who to mute in voice/text chat through there.
Hii fellow girl Valorant player here! I've been playing for about 2-3 months now and within my first month playing I had already heard everything. Valorant is one of the less-toxic games I've played, most of the men I've played with will only ask for socials (mostly snap) and pics. I used to play Overwatch and my experience was very different, I was often given the more toxic reactions like rape threats and constant misogynistic jokes. Although the two experiences were very different neither one is better than the other, please just respect each other and have fun, a girl might actually like you if you're kind and just trying to have fun in game.
Tbh I am too nice to be toxic. Even when I hard carry in rank, I always just tell myself that my team is having a bad day.
Great video, and thank you for your efforts in collecting this data. I suspect this was not a statistically significant sample size, but the data certainly suggests what we all intuitively suspect to be true: women experience more toxicity overall, and more toxicity specifically on account of their gender while gaming. The fact that any somewhat randomized sample of female gamers would see rates of toxicity as high as *fifty percent* is flatly ridiculous. It's 2021 , and this is a pathetic state of affairs for gaming, e-sports, and VALORANT. We all have to do better.
I cant tell if the '!' At the 'backed by data' is in an exciting way or not.
and this is why i almost never talk unless i'm queued with a male friend. the chances of being exposed to toxicity for being a girl are way too high, don't wanna risk it
I am the same way, I only use voice chat if their is a nother girl using voice or if I'm playing with friends.
Me in the meanwhile: Cheering women up, even when they whiff the round xD
keep doing it, it might mean a lot to someone!
That is the main reason why I don't play ranked matches in any game usually, lol, people in quick plays, normal games and unranked matches are way more chill, but it can still be weird sometimes so I just mostly don't talk in chat and just talk in discord with my friends
From my personal experience when partying with a female they dont usually receive toxicity until they play poorly or we start losing then toxic comments towards their gender usually start
and that’s why I only play with my friends and if I’m not, I won’t use mic and just mute everyone 💀
why does everyone call us females, like im curious... do we call u males??
Exactly, if only there was a word created specifically for female humans... HMMMM women?
as a girl playing val, my weirdest encounter was somone spamming my ears with "sit on my face", i would prefer 10000 times to be "sent back to the kitchen" rather than being s.a.-ed bc i wanna give info on voice
Just mute those idiots. Wouldn't even argue with them or even blink until i mute people like that.
"asia isn't as toxic" aha
As a girl myself I never use mic unless I am 100% sure that my team is not toxic, or unless there are a few females (2+ [including me] ) on my team and lastly if someone is being toxic towards someone excessively, I would usually step in and then receive the same toxic treatment lol🤗