Trent Horn | When Protestants Argue Like Atheists | Defending the Faith Conference
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- Trent Horn delivered this talk, "When Protestants Argue Like Atheists", at the 2022 Defending the Faith Steubenville Conference.
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Just watched Trent's talk from the Philippines. I've been watching the past Steubenville Conferences for over a year now and they were very instrumental in my transformation as a revert Catholic.
Welcome home. I reverted as well. I had strayed away in my teens, then in 2016 when I was 32,. I finally made my Confirmation. Better late than never, it was the best decision I ever made. For 8 months I attended RCIA to clear up some of the many misunderstandings I had, I learned so so much.
I found out that as a child, I was very poorly catechized. I also came to realize that most of my grandparents who all attended Catholic school, were also poorly catechized. This trickled down to my parents and onto my generation. Very unfortunate. I have one Grandmother living and all she knows is that she has to attend mass and go to confession. She can't defend her faith, she can't explain it. She even tried arguing with me once that Martin Luther and the Lutheran church came first. This is common among those in her circle. This is so unbelievably sad.
All of my cousins, aunts, uncles and my parents even fell away from the church. All due to being poorly catechized.
All I can do now is pray for them. So when I say "Welcome Home". I truly mean it. ❤️
Well done. Your Parents and family’s will come back.
GOD Bless you, Ferdie! Welcome back Home to the fullness of Faith!
Watch more, read more, think more, pray more. I recommend the new testament, emphasis on Galatians. God bless.
Trent, your awesome. Very intelligent and graceful. I'm growing to appreciate you more every month.
Wow, we have a hockey team of apologetics... Horn, Fradd, Ray, Hahn, Beaumont, Bergsma, Mericier, Staples...
Pray we get Francis Chan too!
A real winning title. We'll win over alot of Protestants with this...
Trent has won over more protestants than everyone who comments on this video put together.
Why are Catholics so... accommodating
Strange....I'm technically still a Protestant, yet he makes a lot of sense, as do other Catholic apologists. There are so many arguments and points they make that I just can't get around nor refute. Maybe not all of them, but most of them.
Dear @@imherwerdio6852, it's actually not surprising for Catholics to make sense to Protestants. If you shed the "Protestant" beliefs, you will be left with the common Christian beliefs we all have. And if you continue to add the Christian beliefs that have been in the Church since the beginning, then we will all one day rejoice the Heart of Jesus by all coming as One to His Table. As He prayed.
No?
@@susand3668 granted. I think I'm coming back home anyway, to be honest.
Wow.... 43:05 through 43:20. "So why is the devil impersonating Mary to get people to join a church where, during our baptismal vows, we promise to reject the devil and all of his empty promises? It does not make sense."
That was actually a rather profound and logical argument and question that I've never thought of nor heard before. Thank you for that, Trent. That, and I've read some of the accounts of the apparitions where Mary is speaking, and she so often points to and defends her Son, and especially regarding worship and devotion to him, and his teachings. It's like, if she was a minion of Satan, or an impersonation that he was using, why would said apparition tell people to follow and to worship Christ, or defend and uphold Christ?
That’s a similar argument that Jesus made when they accused him of using demons to cast out demons.
For the algorithm. Such an important message to spread.
7:12 In the novel "Barchester Towers," an Anglican cleric (one of the good guys!) is troubled for a while with J.H. Newman's conversion to Catholicism, but decides not to follow him. He explains his decision to remain Anglican by saying, in effect, "We're fallible people who can't know these things on earth, so it's not worth worrying about." Atheism (at least the complacent, silent-despair British kind) is just what happens when somebody makes this attitude general (towards all religious claims) instead of particular (towards Catholic claims only).
Acts 4:12
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
John 14:6
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
God bless, please ask today the lord Jesus about the truth.
Today some protestants don't believe Jesus to be God, some call him Angel Micheal etc...
yeah, it's sad Protestants are falling into long old heresies, it's infecting their churches
"Today some protestants don't believe Jesus to be God."
Did Jesus say he was God? Or did he call himself God's Son? (John 10:36)
Those are not protestants,they are Jehovahs Witness. They believe that Jesus is actually Michael the Archangel. Please be careful for those comments. JWs are not Christians.
@@bmundo587 What in the world are you talking about? I'm not talking about Protestants or Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm talking about what the Bible says about God. So, where does it say that Jesus claimed to be God? After all, didn't Jesus say his Father is "the ONLY true God"? (John 17:3) Doesn't the word "only" mean, "to the exclusion of others"? So, if Jesus' Father is the true God to the exclusion of others, how many other true Gods can there be? Answer: *NONE!!*
@@cbooth151 it was meant for @amagara jerome, not you. Sorry for the mix up. If you read amagaras comment, they were referring to a JW belief, not a christian belief.
Great talk, Trent. And that Chick character? Just him and his "publications" are straight up reprehensible....
Jesus established “one” Church. P’s will never accept the truth even though it’s easily proven biblically Matthew 16:18-19, 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” P’s would rather tell us we’re wrong about everything so there is no common ground. Unfortunately based on the uneducated comments from “p’s” here or on other peaceful Catholic podcasts they are consumed in their sins and spew nothing but calumny and detraction at Catholic Christians and Christs Church. There is no rational thought in them. Pray for them.
Excellent video Trent Horn. Thank you.
Yes, Jesus established the "one church," but it wasn't the Catholic Church. Instead, it was the Christian church. Big difference.
@@cbooth151 Show me.
@@Spiritof76Catholic At John 8:31. Jesus said to his followers: "If you obey my teachings, you are really my disciples." Later, at Acts 11: 26, it says that when Barnabas found [Paul], he took him to Antioch, and for a whole year the two met with people of the church and taught a large group. It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians." Did you see the word "Catholics" in that verse? No, you didn't.
So, a Christian is a person who believes in the teachings of Jesus. Now, tell me, where in your Bible does it say that the early Christians believed Jesus taught that...
1. purgatory is real? Answer: NOWHERE!!
2. his birthday should be celebrated on December 25th? Answer: NOWHERE!!
3. single priests are bound to celibacy? Answer: NOWHERE!!
4. meat must not be eaten on Fridays or during Lent? Answer: NOWHERE!!
5. "we worship one God in trinity"? Answer: NOWHERE!!
6. Mary can be worshiped? Answer: NOWHERE!!
7. the Father, Son, and holy spirit are one in substance, nature, and essence? Answer: NOWHERE!!
8. inanimate objects like statues and relics can be worshiped? Answer: NOWHERE!!
9. he [Jesus], the Father, and the holy spirit are equals? Answer: NOWHERE!!
10. Mary was immaculately conceived? Answer: NOWHERE!!
I could add to the list above, but the point is already proved, namely, that Catholics are not followers of the teachings of Jesus. In other words, Catholics are not Christians.
@@cbooth151 Jesus spoke very simply about the church he established in Matthew 16:18-19 but you disagree with Jesus. May God have mercy on your soul. I stand by everything I wrote in my initial comment. Thank you for proving my point. Your opinions mean nothing because you twist scripture to your own destruction 2 Peter 3:16. I will pray for you.
@@Spiritof76Catholic You say that because you refuse to accept the truth. Jesus' early followers were called Christians, not Catholics. Not only that, but Catholics don't follow the teachings of Jesus. Catholics are not Christians. This is not an opinion. This is a fact that you can't refute. So sad for you.
Karen freakout videos remind me of judgemental Protestantism
OSTIA!
Sorry but John chapter 1 makes it clear that Jesus is the word made flesh .Therefore if you want to use any information outside of scripture that disagrees with scripture you are calling Jesus a Liar .Or to put it another way you are calling god a liar .How can we be sure if something we think we have discerned is truly from the holy spirit or Satan or our own mind ? Answer does it agree with or contradict scripture !!!
Catholics affirm John 1:1 teaches the divinity of Christ, go preach to the JW fools
I' willing to bet there are Roman Catholics who miss the good old days of the Inquisitions.
@po18guy Don't be silly. Nothing on the scale of the Roman Catholic Church murders, tortures and wars over the centuries.
You can't miss what you didn't experience, but if I could, I would. The inquisition is a beautiful expression of christ's kingdom on earth, and the loss of the devil's ownership over the kingdoms of the earth.
@@johnbrowne3950 You are laughably ignorant on history. The church is the light of Europe and of the world, always leagues ahead. I love the Church, irreguardles of some bad apples even at the levels of nobility and clergy, they can't spoil the batch blessed by Jesus.
@@tafazzi-on-discord You are confusing Christ with Satan. And you also have that typical twisted, perverted Catholic way of seeing the world. Thanks for confirming.
@@tafazzi-on-discord A perfectly holy Jesus has nothing to do with the Catholic church or The Vatican den of vipers and demons.
Alex O"Connor is brilliant!
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Dont Catholics pray to Saints? How is that not idol worship? This video is offensive he claim to not compare the moral standards of Protestants to atheists. Then procedes to compare the two about legitimate questions Protestants have. Did he answer the questions about pergatory? Seems like he dance, deflects real honest inquiriries as just atheistic dismissals.
Ya mean wen Protestants expose the outright errors and contradictions of RCC teaching in "tradition"? The blatent historical errors in the Apocryphal books? Or the liberal lens of not viewing the 66 books of the Bible as inerrant (which can be proven; scientifically, historically & prophetically) As well as the ridiculous method of interpreting historical narratives as allegories or merely symbolic...? except wen it contradicts Catholic teaching.
Nah the Apocrypha is good, it was in the KJV for 200-plus years. Even if you don't accept it as inerrant you can pull great wisdom from it.
The Bible makes me more Catholic the more I read it
Hmmm, Christianity is more than 2000 years old?? not just 200+ When did Mary have her substitute take the reins? See Colm Toibin's "The Testament of Mary" ??@@gabequinn9796
The catholic hubris.....
No. The ultimate hubris is to think Bible Alone, because one has the pride to say that I don't need to listen to the church (as Jesus said to do in Matthew 16) but instead to say that one has the authority to interpret scripture infallibly when reading in privately.
"In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes." - Judges 17:6
I think you have a concience that is tweaked a little
@@CalvinGomes How is following what the Gospel says is hubris? If people followed the Lord's word then the original stuff the Protestants rebuked wouldn't have even existed. The words of Christ supersede any pope, minister, pastor, priest that is living or dead.
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
Stated twice in the first chapter of Galatians by the apostles themselves.
So if some guy wearing a Daegon fish hate in Rome says something openly rejecting the Lord's word, are we to accept it?
@@galatian5it's not a fish hat that is a myth with no evidence no eye witness accounts
ah, feel the hate between Christians, padawan.
I'm just waiting for Trent Horn to start chanting "Great is Artemis of the Ephesians" for hours as Demetrius did in Acts 19 when Paul was evangelizing in Ephesus. The traditions of men do not supersede the scriptures. #Anathema