‘Crooks and spooks’ in Putin’s government at war after Shoigu replaced | Edward Lucas
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- “I wouldn’t say things are going brilliantly for Putin.”
Internal conflict in Putin’s government is the “greatest corrosive effect” in his regime, says security specialist Edward Lucas, after Putin replaced his defence minister Shoigu.
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" A surprise attack on Kharkiv? " If you were surprised bro , you were the only one. 😂
Well, its pretty surprise if even zelensky calls it that.
Gaslighting at its finest
'Surprising' as far being completely idiotic. But then the 'military genius' behind the said 'enterprise' became known - the infamous general Lapin and all the questions disappeared..
He's another "expert" who knows nothing about anything!!
'Surprising' as far as being completely idiotic. But then the 'military genius' behind the said 'enterprise' became known - the infamous general Lapin and all the questions disappeared.
Didn’t think they had a defence minister, are you sure he wasn’t the offence minister?
"Ministry of stolen toilets" --Operator Starsky
those NATO bases just spawned from nothing I guess, fed by cookies
How many Nato troops were stationed in Eastern Europe before 2022? For example in the Baltics? Very few. Extraordinarily dangerous indeed.
Shoigu's lieutenant was arrested for corruption. If I were Shoigu, I would stay away from windows in tall buildings, airplanes, cups of tea, doorknobs, etc.
..and no ordering polomium pizzas or herbal teas.
@phattmanmorgs don't forget chew gums
@@phattmanmorgs oy, don't give pizza all the bad press. Sushi gets laced too... 😂
I'm reminded of the Returning Officer for Dunny-on-the-wolde who "accidentally brutally cut his head off whilst shaving" in Blackadder
He should know ruzzky tradition...
When one door closes
A window always opens
Every time Putin throws a temper tantrum and fires someone Ukraine should publically thank them for all their help and shared information
Watch out soon shoigo will be flying out of the window. 😂😂😂
The guy has been promoted, so think again.😂
doubt it, he is now Secretary of Security Council making him Putin's replacement next to Belousov
@@imperatorvespasian3125 Yeah, cause all the 'sharpest' tools are there - like Dmitriy Alcohol-ievich Medvedev..
I think he just bought a jacket with a built in parachute.
All in all Shoigu’s management of the logistics side of things has been very good. Russia alone is outproducing the entire west, how big a fail is that? Not of course….its the west that’s abysmal. Shoigu has long been thought to be a possible for higher government. This guy talks about corruption. The western MIC is nothing but and Ukraine is the home of corruption. These experts also never fail to mention the drone use against the Black Sea Fleet. Note: That chicken came home to roost in the Red Sea. The Russians captured one and gave Iran the low down and now the Houthis are using them…Oops! This just typifies the west….no thinking ahead…..we rely on sea power ….is this a good move, Russia moves things on land after all. I don’t doubt Russia is working on solutions, but the west have sown a wind and will be exposed to the whirlwind. All that low grade powers need is some of these then the US carrier fleets can’t come near!
My question is; how does a "peace-loving" nation have a non-military "defense minister" like Shoigu with so many ribbons on his chest? Merit badges?
He saved up his Double Bubble wrappers
None of their medals or ribbons are combat or service related. Political awards for superb corruption.
To all the Russian trolls suggest you take your pay in potatoes rather than rubbles 😂
why take potato, potato free on a dacha
i hear artillery shell is worth more than gold abroad
my uncle work at a factory making shells
today he make more shells than european country of north lithuania
should take pay in those?
Is that what Ukraine pay you at the troll farm?
@@Cruzeoc101 Ukraine don’t need a troll farm Krembot number 5770. VP’s war has created RuZZiphobia as well as an increased border with NATO and a ruble that’s worth as much as a handful of dirt!
Tell a lie often enough and the sheeple start believing it.
I've heard that so often it must be true.
THE truth is sensored, that is why all that is written here, are lies...😊
Censored!
Masks and jabbs for the masses, comrade?
Indeed. Sometimes sheeple make up an entire nation like Russia.
This russo-ukrainian war is pointless in the sense that even if Russia (contrary to the assumption) manages to hold the occupied territories, they still have not managed to win them. According to international law (UN Declarations) it is forbidden to annex other country's territories, so these areas will never be recognized as Russian territories except by Russia itself (and possibly North Korea). The only way for Russia is for the UN Declarations to be rewritten or for Ukraine to voluntarily give Russia these areas (none of this will happen). The territories will continue to be Ukrainian illegally annexed by Russia which will therefore always have sanctions and trade boycotts from the West (formerly Russia's best customers). There will also always be fighting in the areas so Russia will always need to have a lot of its military resources placed in these areas. It will be very expensive in the long run for Russia to illegally try to keep the territories, and the question is whether the Kremlin (and the Russian people) have both the will and the ability to pay this price.
Welcome to the new world mate
That is why his new defence minister is an economist. The coffers are draining fast.
@@gyaanfreakpoor Russia, welcome to your new reality, they better get used to it.
Read the UN 2030 agenda, their role is not in anyones favour, nor are their declarations, any more than that. They exist to legitimise the evil that politicians spawn on humanity....
I've always said that they can take but never hold Ukranian territory or Ukranian spirit. They were doomed from the beginning.
Imagine if we concentrated on the crooks in our own government.
Just wait until Nov. 5th.
Which country are you from? Belarus?
@KirsiVackelin the uk, it's worse than
Belarus
@@Cruzeoc101 Tell me how is the UK worse than Belarus?
@daveoc5770 never been to Belarus obviously
Whatever you said in the past 2 years, none of it has come true. How can that be?
It’s called predictions and they’re not always right. Did VP think he would be fighting in Ukraine for this many years? No he didn’t and he has egg on his face and blood on his hands.
Shoigu the dancing 0rc
Did you think that up all by yourself, or did mummy help you?
Has he picked his prefered window.
He literally got a higher position he now serves as the head of the Russian security council.
If the election was fixed does this mean that the majority could rebel at some stage,✌️
He was promoted to the Security Council, not 'replaced '! 😂😂 journalism at its finest, or maybe more accurately propaganda.
Correct, when i read the same on other news sites that is also what i understood.. where they get this from who knows.
More corrupt Russian incompetence. Russia should focus on giving their citizens indoor plumbing and alcohol counselling
it's called failed up or kicked up and put of the way
also the tuvan engineer is very loyal to putin and they even go fishing in tuva together. so kind of loyal buddy. not really fireable at least for now...
@yeshechangchub6914 funny how he's been appointed to 2 other consecutive positions aswell then, he's well qualified for them too.
Did Putin ring in and tell you personally lol Wasn't Putin on the verge of defeat two years ago 🤡
Love watching them lie and twist things with a straight face it's actually hilarious
Shogu I was Ukraines greatest assist, because of his incompetence 😂😂😂
How can you post such nonsense?
Does Grant Shapps command the British army or is the defence minister.
@@Therealist679 No nonsense at all - Shoigu was responsible for the trumpeted 'modernisation' of the Russian army - who went into Ukraine on broken old trucks, no body armour and with 3days worth of expired (years ago!) rations..
Like Zelensky for Ukraine...
Shoigu has an appointment with a high level open window sometime very soon
Ha refrain back on all your excitement children 😊. The show is not over
So it's absolutely normal for other countries to replace their ministers and when it comes to Russia its cracks in the system 🤔 or its a times radio BS
Replacing a minister of defence in the middle of a war is highly significant.
Interesting how a mindless comments gets upvoted by all your accounts at once. Shuffling the chairs in an authoritarian cleptocratic state currently at war is very significant. Deal with it.
One advantage Russia has in attacking Kharkiv is they are basing the attack within Russia proper. Ukraine cannot then use US supplied ordnance to attack the originating support bases. Doesn't seem fair to me. So why does the US help Russia in this atrocity?
The rules have changed. Ukraine are allowed to use whatever they want.
I love the propaganda and spin on this channel. Western "democratic" governments routinely conduct cabinet shuffles that's no issue. However, a routine cabinet shuffle in Russia is the end of their system of government! I love how they glossed over the fact that Shoigu has been appointed as the leader of security council and also how Zelensky has also shuffled his cabinet of got rid of key people. There's nothing to see here folks - only a slow a grinding war that's currently in Russia's favour.
Get lost evil Russian.
Shoigu and the other guy who was relieved have been implicated in a massive defence equipment fraud, been common knowledge for a few weeks, so why do you not mention that ?!?!
Oh that was all the $$$ billions in Wagner African gold that Prigohzin brought back after his abortive coup as a peace offering that Ivanov and Shoigu “borrowed” and forgot to mention to putin. Then putin sent Prigo off on his one-way trip to paradise knowing nothing about the transaction. Putin is woefully out of the loop. The man can’t even use a laptop, he might as well not know how to read, he is so far out of the loop. Any random TH-camr knows more about russia than putin.
Because they have no idea what they are talking about.
@@TCK-9 Lol oh really, the other high ranking officer has already been arrested and I believe charged, watch the news 🤡
Shoigu's deputy General was recently arrested in full
Uniform, in his Office, by the FSB on charges of corruption, theft, embezzlement.... For all his own corruption, Putin has to be seen as not letting Shoigu get away with saying that he wasn't aware of his deputy General's dodgy activities.
This shows that some things are not working for him.
Aren't they one and same thing? Crooks and spooks? Indivisible?
Abrubtly removing a long time defense minister in the middle of a war due to needing a scapegoat to blame the failures on isnt a great idea.
They keep doing this with so, so many commanders in the russian military - to put a loyalists in their places not based on merit, competence and experienxe. Most were already loyalists and those who bribed the military for a privileged position. Then the Putin-regime goes surprised pikachu face when the military performs horrible and continues with doing the same thing that caused this.
If times radio was a newspaper it would be more useful, and thicker than andrex
😂😂😂😂 true
What does "andrex" mean?
Thank god it's not Christopher Steele again. If he comes back in I'll never watch times radio again.
OK
NOW Ukraine is winning.
This is it.
It’s time you hired some new creative fiction writers. Retreading the same BS, over and over is BORING.
Same guy who predicted Russian economic collapse and military defeat
2 years ago...?? 😂😂😂. The sort of " security expert " loved by Times Radio
and BBC...
More garbage from what must now be a contender for the ‘top wannabe world owner freak show propaganda outfit’ world champion!
Good summary. Thank you. For some reason I had trouble following the cadence or emphases of interviewees speech. Pronunciation good. I don’t understand my problem (76 y o) but maybe a better microphone?
AND HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW ALL THE SENSIBLE PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE WHAT TIMES RADIO AND THEIR GUESTS ARE, I DONT KNOW ABOUT PUTIN BEING FINNISHED, BUT THE PROPAGAND TIMES RADIO WILL BE SOON😂😂😂
Along with the BBC and Guardian
they have up any pretense of objective reporting on the War
as soon as it started. Interesting to see how contemptuous foreign
politicians now are of the Beeb.
They're a laughing stock .Soon to be defunct...!!
Thank you!
Paranoia big destroyer.
It says the money is now an issue!
What kinda Shovels and washing machines is Russia using?!!! We're told they ran out of ammunition years ago!
An wasn't Putin having multiple heart attacks, strokes, Cancer, and falling down stairs??? The people here need those washing machine chips because they seem to be Defeating NATO!
" We're told they ran out of ammunition years ago!"
Better follow good news sources and some logic.
“We were told”. Do you always believe everything you are TOLD? “We were led to believe”
And so you believed it, hook, line and sinker. Gullible, no?
@@war-painter It looks like Royal has trouble finding/accepting context. ;-)
Shoigu's retiring, that is all.
He wanted to retire before the invasion.
Our analysis is always wrong and I'm sure this is also very wrong
You just stated that you are always wrong, so what you are sure of is of course wrong too.
@rmdomainer9042 our countries analyse is always wrong, proven time and time again.
It's not wrong to say we are wrong
@@Cruzeoc101 " our countries analyse" What country do you pretend to be from?
@@rmdomainer9042 I don't pretend to be from any country.
That makes ypu sound guilty of pretending to be from a country
@@Cruzeoc101 "our countries" You literally referred to being from a country whose "analyse[sic]" is wrong. Cotton on!
❤Ukrainian ❤
The Times doesn't seem to have the same level of interest in the Kiev regime, even though billions of our tax money have gone there.
It's not that long since Budanov's wife was poisoned and Zaluzhny's deputy was blown up with a birthday present.
Shoigu has been promoted and the new defence secretary is an expert military economist, probably tasked with outproducing the entirety of NATO by an even larger factor tha the current three times.
How cute , you living in the same world the cellar dweller lives in.
@@Matthew-wn8oqcope and seethe 😂😂
You're a ludicrous post truth merchant. I hope this Kafkaesque worldview you are peddling comes back to bite you.
We know everything is *PERFECT* in Russia. RT tells us this every day. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
There is no "Kiev regime". The regime definition is reserved for deplorables.
Security Council of the Russian Federation :
Chairman, President Vladimir Putin
Deputy Chairman, Dmitry Medvedev
Secretary, Sergei Shoigu
* is a constitutional consultative body of the Russian president that supports the president's decision-making on national security affairs and matters of strategic interest. Composed of Russia's top state officials and heads of defence and security agencies and chaired by the president of Russia, the SCRF acts as a forum for coordinating and integrating national security policy.
GOLD!
More smoke and mirrors for the sheeples
But Russia is still biggest bandit of Europe
The guy was promoted to the security council. Not the same as being "sacked" - is this how much of a stretch needs to be made in order to have some kind of "positive" news in the UK?
It's actually a promotion
Dude, it happens during a war. Their security council is a place to drop untouchables like Medvedev. Probably just a place to keep the Delirium Tremens managed.
Get Putin somehow
Crooks & Spooks. That's the ruling class in the UK.
Ahem, the UK ruling class is an etalon of honesty and prudence compared to what's in Russia - something from the pre-Magna Carta Dark ages.
@@nikolaikrustev1159 Hasn't been in centuries......
You should take a trip to Russia for a reality check Ben
How did you find out?
Sunak is more concerned about our borders than Ukraine. Hang on, isn't that a MAGA theme?
Albert Speer was Germany’s armaments minister; he was nothing to do with the Economics Ministry.
Maria Avdeeva...really? The Times is now a complete joke!
MA is a responsible reporter. You are a conspiracy theorist.
That's how it started.
Cracks are appearing. Wheels will fall off next
It's always this nonsensical wishful thinking whereas the wheels really are coming off for Ukraine, 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 Every objective the West has had for #ProjectUkraine has led to opposite outcome, yet our leaders keep doing the same thing expecting different results - no reverse gear
Times Radio , ? I agree
The move shows that Russia suffers severe financial burden due to extended war with Ukraine.
Wow so Ukraine must be losing badly seeing g ad they have fired officials
I love how this guy thinks he knows what Putin was and wasn’t told so arrogant
If you are such an expert, why aren't YOU on Times Radio? Is it because you know sod all about Russia, Ukraine and the war?
@@baltasarnoreno5973 lol awe so angry
@@Justme42yay Angry? Not at all! Just explaining to you in clear and simple language exactly what your real status is and your importance as an 'expert' 🤣 in Putinology. Which is zero, in case you hadn't figured it out already.
HARRY HOMELESS IS BACK AT IT I SEE.
Does anyone else find predictive text annoying it buggers me up all the time
Grow up and buy a computer.
You can turn it off.
You can turn it off in settings. 👍
This is Trupm and his idiots fault.
Stop spinning
The security council position that Shoigu has got is definitely a demotion.
it is a constitutional consultative body of the Russian president that supports the president's decision-making on national security affairs and matters of strategic interest. Composed of Russia's top state officials and heads of defence and security agencies and chaired by the president of Russia, the SCRF acts as a forum for coordinating and integrating national security policy.
@@truthmatters8689I see it as demotion because Russia is in a serious war with Ukraine.
Shogu has been promoted
If you actually want to talk about cracks in a regime. Why don't you talk about the Ukrainian government. Or wouldn't that suit your agenda.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 okey dokey
No.....they can't replace Shiogu. He's one of the main reasons Ukrainians are able the stop the Russian onslaught.
They not stopping russia you are brainwashed to thinking that ukraine will fold within weeks
stop when?
He's the defence minister, not the army commander, 🙄
Mug
keep believing the same media that lied to you during cv19... some people never learn
End of days for the Putin regime…
Here we go again. Spinning more irrelevant bullsh#t. The narrative we've been spun is failing big time. Keep it real!!!
Yet here you are, upvoting yourself. Everybody else here is more relevant than you are. Do you even have running water at home?
Prophecy, not by power nor by mighty but by my spirit says the Lord
Putin looks after his mates until they die.
What claptrap
When Ukraine sack officials, the British hail it as good, but when Russia reshuffle her cabinet, Times Radio goes into a state of insanity.
thats because Ukraine is actually trying to fight corruption, in russia, they are just playing musical chairs. That's why. Keep up, its not hard.
You wish.
So Russia is the only country that can not change ministers
But not it’s leader lol.
Almost like Ukraine who can't even vote this year due to dictatorship
It’s the criminal syndicate that is currently our own government we need to worry about.
Well, unlike Russia, you can stand for office and help stop it. Or not. If not, stop complaining.
@@bigglesharrumpher4139 derp
@@bigglesharrumpher4139 oh you’d love to believe that wouldn’t you? However the nearest you’d get would be shouting from the back benches the called a conspiracy theorist and drummed out of the party. See what happened to Andrew Bridgen.
@@KevinTullock Believe what? I just suggested you do something instead of complaining. That's how Democracy works. YOU do something. I'm not the whinger here.
@@bigglesharrumpher4139 oh bless, you still think you live in a “Democracy” 🤣🤣🤦♂️ Not cottoned on to the whole Con Lib Lad Green Uniparty yet then I see. It doesn’t matter who of those you vote for you get the same Masters… Waken up wee man.
The contracts Shiogun awards will also be in the mix. If a not-so-good guy loses his contracts/money will they just let it happen.
145 million people ruled by one man’s paranoia!
And all they had to do was invest in their own nation. Of course, they would eventually have wanted agency then. Instead they get permanent war.
Americas population is larger than that
Quite an achievement if you are referring to Rupert's Radio's number 1 obsession, namely Vladimir Putin. But he has had the intelligence to surround himself with some impressive people with Lavrov, Zakharova, Nebenzia and others. Meanwhile Britain is ably run by a Mafia character based in Washington who is suffering from terminal dementia! But I love this channel for its Carrollian perspective.
Shoigu's new role is deemed a promotion...nothing to see here!
Your wrong he’s been put out to pasture, no more skimming money, he could also be used as the fall guy as he signed all the orders to attack Ukraine.
Trash
I find this channel to be overly optimistic on the difficulties of Russia since the war started, unfortunately...
Maybe putin just hasn't seen Shoigu the 'Dancing Bear'. I'm sure he will reinstate him soon. Or he will become a scapegoat for Pooter's failing government.
Where is Gerry
He was the special operations minister
The Times, propaganda
Why dont you move to the glorious russia then?
Nightmare
More nonsense propaganda
Yawn....Putin's nearly done again is he? Goog good.
Times Radio or Daliy Sport Radio!
Have you ever wondered why YOU aren't being interviewed by Times Radio? Is is perhaps because you know absolutely nothing about Russia?
@@baltasarnoreno5973 neither does times radio, ffs...
My guess is he'll get the call ☎ very soon if that is true
Poor Ukraine. They are exhausted. 🇺🇦💪🏻🇺🇦🙏🏼🇺🇦
That's because they have foolishly failed to conscript all men of fighting age.
They should not have acted cocky, trusted Nuland, and the EU. Now, they are having what they have been asking for. All that had been required of them to stop terrorising LDPR. Was it that difficult?
@@Светлана-о6ф5т what a load of 💩
THE UK LOVES MOTHER RUSSIA...🙏🏻...
No russian is gonna say in 5 years "well it was worth it"
No Ukrainian will say "well it was worth it" that's for sure
😊😅
Beggars dream
When Zelensky dismiss zaluhzny, it is all about bringing fresh ideas and so on but when Putin replaces his general, it is about cracks, you guys are super funny😂😂😂
Typos lol me
The times in full propaganda mode
.
Putler: "Everything is going according to plan!"
Are they not tired to be so so baised, and most of the time wrong on their judgement calls? It must be draining
This is laughable 😂😂😂
Blah Blah Blah
A very thoughtful and considered comment. Not even a Russian Bot could come up with this.
Not, not, bot
@@jimmeltonbradley1497 Accurate though.
This comment upsets the bots
@@jimmeltonbradley1497 It's all talk. Nothing will change unfortunately.
I wondered the same thing about the USA and UK governments.
If you're going to be anti-Russian, make sure your hostility is based on the reality. Find someone for whom the wish is not the father of the thought. Find someone who understands Russia and Russian concerns (whether they support Russia or not) and doesn't have such an absurdly hostile animus that it's impossible for them to do anything but feed prejudices subconsciously planted in our collective heads. When you look at how the Western economies have been hit by the boomerang sanctions, how the Western powers are rudderless, their leaders are unpopular headless chickens, have no reverse gear and their only strategy is the hope strategy and then look at Russia thriving and confident and more united than ever before, with more and more influence than ever and the West losing its influence incredibly quickly, doing straw-clutching programmes looking for bad things to say about the party that's running rings around 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 economically, militarily, diplomatically and geopolitically hoping that one day one of your dire predictions for Russia may actually happen makes you a laughing stock. It would be hilarious if the consequences of such ignorant stupidity were not so awful for Ukraine, USA, the EU and the UK, but that ignorance is the father of disastrous decision making
OK Vlad.
@@Steve_Coates Thanks Ursula von der Crazy 🤪 😂
There is no Russophobia. Disgust over Russian actions is as normal as oxygen.
@@rmdomainer9042 When you are brainwashed like you are obviously yes. There are two sides to every story and the other side of the story puts a completely different perspective on the matter
Oh yeah, you've been saying this for ages.
You lot, the media, said he was dying years ago, now he's fine.
Idgaf about Ukraine. Stop trying to rope us in with more bs, it's boring.
Yet here you are, caring about Ukraine.