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I think the first two or three inches of flight are closer to real ball speed and the AG ball would then rapidly drop off. Hence a algorithm could solve all that quite easily...just a thought
Okay, You actually made a whole video from it! I hope you are blessed x3 fold.. I know you literally answer every comment, that makes sense to. And the content is just wonderful. and is fun as it can be to watch a simulator video. Great job
Great infotaiment, Jay. I'm using Almostgollballs in my backyard due to safety issues and reduced noise (neighbours!). A follow-up video with "dot on" and normal swingspeed could be very interesting.
Thanks Brother!!! Due to Covid, I needed some way to hit balls in my garage without noise or breaking anything. This video fully answered my question. Thank you!!!!!!!
I have a dozen of these balls when they were called the “sweet 60s”. I believe at the time the company was called Point Five. They are really fun to play on executive courses, or par 3 courses. Would love to see a really good 4000 yard course designed to accommodate these.
Great to see how your channel is growing!! All that hard work is paying off. That was a fun one! Can see it for short game practice, but really that’s kind of it
Yes it really is cool and should only get better as we cover more hardware etc. I agree this was a viewer request, fun but not super practical. Thanks for watching!!
For us lesser techies, I suppose I need to start paying attention to my SC300i while I practice with my Almost Golf balls on the back porch. Have only been watching the clubhead speed. What I really like about the Almost balls is that I have not broken any glass when they bounce off the net. Lot of expensive double pane on my back porch.
Thanks so much for the great analysis of the MEVO+ with Almost Golf Ball. My indoor setup is based on Almost Golf Balls and had given up on the chance to use a launch monitor or simulator. Does SkyTrak also work with Almost?
I have not tested skytrak with AG balls. I think any unit that properly reads the ball will have major variances due to it not having the same compression, spin, or flight.
Even though the Mevo+ can read the ball, I still agree with your original assessment of "Why"? The numbers are useless...Also, the sound (or lack there of) when you hit the first shot almost made me stop the video. I couldn't stand hitting that ball...That said, I was intrigued by your comment of your indoor chipping area...you should do a short video showing that off. Sounds nice.
Drew Lance Yeah you have to take it for what it is for sure. I think I’m going to do a full part two video using a metallic dot this time 👍. Thanks for watching!
I use them with optishot as I don’t want to using real balls in my garden room simulator and they are great as it’s a club tracker,.but I want to upgrade to mevo plus or skytrak but can only use almost balls so it would be great if you could do a side by side test with real balls to compare .
Kind of impossible to do side by side? I explain the distance differences. Very close under 80 yard then starts going down. We were thinking part 2 video using the metallic dot. Thanks for watching
I bought these a few years ago for recreation ground practice, uber good. Then I bought some to hit into a net in lockdown and also useful. On my SC300 they are useful to hit just try and smash drivers and see BS results. I think its all relative.
Okay even though Im one who asked.. If im being honest i didnt expect it to be as close as it was. When using radar like Swing caddy these seems to read as about 60% of a real ball. However when using sci core balls , they were reading nearly 85 percent the normal distance. With all that being said, I cant help but wonder if sci core ball would read nearly a real balls distance. Im ordering a mevo+ , it might be awhile but i will test out sci core balls.
I actually was just talking to ES Sports about that unit. Seems like the one most people are asking to see. I am working getting one. Thanks for watching and asking!
So temped to get a mevo plus or sky track which would you say is better? Glad you did this test as I would be using these and good to know accurate results. 👍
I never pick devices or software over another. When I created the channel I set a goal to have the best content and enough of it so people could make the best decision based on what they see. Since the SkyTrak unit I originally planned on having got stopped from arriving due to Corona I apologize I do not have a unit on hand to do direct comparisons. I still plan on having one as soon as possible and doing a direct comparison. I can tell you some facts. Flightscope is great for indoor and outdoor, it really can shine outdoor as radar. Now Flightscope takes some more space vs Skytrak can fit in a little smaller space which can be nice. Skytrak has a few second delay after the shot is hit, Mevo+ is almost instant. Flightscope comes with software and no annual fee, Skytrak has annual fees. There are few differences. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I think because that's how you would play golf. You need to aim your feet and play to the pin. I think it would make for a good video.
Waiting the whole video for you to mention what your normal club distances are, I think maybe vaguely heard it once. I golf ball comparison without the actual comparison? Ouch!
Is your sim a regular indoor or short indoor configuration? We purchased a Mevo+ and have not been able to get any kind of reading with foam golf balls. It would be good to have foam as an option. The only difference I can see in this video compared to our setup would be short vs regular indoor configuration. Unless I'm missing something else. Thanks.
Interesting but wouldn’t it be true that the simulator is just applying the algorithm that it has inbuilt which is configured for normal balls? So, the distance figures you are getting are just a calculation - it doesn’t mean the almostball actually traversed that distance. One of the first comments was by someone who uses the almostball and actually gets 1/2 the normal distance with a wedge (say, 50 yards) but only 1/3 of the normal distance with a 3-wood (say, about 65-70 yards).
The device is reading the actual ball speed and spin of the ball. The foam is not going to react the same way as a normal golf ball. So it really doesn't have to do with any calculation because it doesn't know it's foam.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I don’t think that what you wrote is correct. The device is doing exactly what I wrote - it is measuring some parameters of the foam ball in the first 8 feet after it is struck (that’s in the me o information) and then applying the algorithm under the assumption that it is a real golf ball. That’s what all those devices do, if you think they don’t then that’s fine but I suggest you hit the almostball outside, on a real golf hole, with your 7-iron and see how far it goes; it won’t go anywhere near the distance reported by the mevo machine. Even with real golf balls these machines just estimate a distance based on what is measured in the first 8 feet. They do not measure real distance.
@@stuartbaker3897 I'm pretty sure you were just misunderstanding what I am saying. The facts are the foam ball is not going to react on the club the same way a real ball does. So the spin numbers and speeds are not going to be the same. Does it apply an algorithm after reading 8 feet yes it does but it's going to be using that data that is going to be much different from a real golf ball.
Can you please state if the Almost golf ball can be used with the Skytrak and is it comparable to the Mevo plus as seen in the beautiful video you made?
It really can’t be used with any LM. They are reading the ball speed, spin, etc and the almost balls are intentionally short flight so other than some shipping data will be off. Thanks for watching
I have had the SkyTrak for 3 years now and have a garage net setup. Most of my practice is with the AG balls, and here is what I’ve seen - For shot shaping practice it is extremely accurate for showing your swing path and club face angle. Distance is inconsistent and ranges from 75-90% of a proV due to the lower ball speed. Generally I’ve found that the spin is much lower and launches higher than the ProV. In short, very good to practice ball striking and shot shaping but no good for simulation.
I can't get any reading at all from the foam balls... I don't have the almost golf ball brand, but the Callaway hx. If I hit with real ball no problem, with foam, nada. Is there a setting I'm missing??
There are different foam balls with varying degrees of compressibility on the market. Do the Almost Golf Balls have a hard shell on them, or are they 100% foam?
@@GolfSimulatorVideos How much can you compress the AGB between your thumb and index finger? I am asking because I am trying to compare these balls to the 9-gram dimpled PU foam balls I currently have. I think the AGB weighs about 13.5 grams.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I wonder if they are just weighted PU foam balls. My 9-gram PU foam balls can be compressed about 0.75 cm (total = 1.5 cm to 2 cm) from each of two adjacent sides (top-bottom).
I was very surprised how well it read them. Clearly a little short but the flight was close. Fun review and people were begging for it so had to :) Thanks for watching!
Thanks. I mean I think we all know since the unit is actually reading the ball as you get up in speed it’s going to be manipulated but it still tracks it fine and actually the slower balls were pretty darn on
As I said right away, this was a user requested video. I will not be using them other than for demonstration in a video like this. It was very interesting though. From what the viewers requesting the video a few lived in apartments and wanted to at least hit something without noise and others have limited space and thing it would suffice when they cant get outdoors etc. The CHS should be correct and you can tell if it was straight, right, or left etc. so some feedback for sure. I hear what you are saying though that is why I questioned even doing it the past few weeks as some were begging :) Thanks for watching!
It's not a value add, it's an answer to a limited setup problem. I am looking at setting up a simulator in my conservatory but there isn't really enough space for a full net or screen to stop a real golf ball. So I would have to use these balls or foam balls so wondered if it was worth spending the money on a Skytrak or Mevo+ for my limited setup. I've read that you can add boosts to certain clubs. Somebody suggested something like 5% to wedges, 10% for mid irons, 15% for long irons, 20% for woods and 30% for drivers. Looking at the data in the video suggests this would give pretty accurate real life yardages. Great video, thanks!
Compression will probably be the cause of the distance difference. Less compression on shorter clubs will create less distance gap. Driver will compress the almost golf ball into deformation and cause energy (ball speed) loss. Same concept when a person with high club head speed hits a low compression ball like a Wilson duo vs a prov1x. Wedge will retain the speed but driver will have higher ball speed with prov1x.
@@jmac13131 Well they specifically say 1/3 of the flight for outdoor use this seemed high of course. Wild the Mevo+ read it that well, with no dot! Now I am thinking I have to do a part 2 video with a dot?
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I used Almost Golf balls a lot in my backyard. The distances don't scale to 1/3 across the club set. For instance a PW will go more than 1/2 the distance of a real golf ball, but a 3W goes less than 1/3 the distance.
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I think the first two or three inches of flight are closer to real ball speed and the AG ball would then rapidly drop off. Hence a algorithm could solve all that quite easily...just a thought
Okay, You actually made a whole video from it!
I hope you are blessed x3 fold.. I know you literally answer every comment, that makes sense to.
And the content is just wonderful. and is fun as it can be to watch a simulator video.
Great job
Really glad you liked it. 👍
I love your excitement in this video. Such a genuine response and honest way to present. Great job.
It was fun to do for sure. I never would have expected the results :) Thanks for watching!!
Great infotaiment, Jay. I'm using Almostgollballs in my backyard due to safety issues and reduced noise (neighbours!). A follow-up video with "dot on" and normal swingspeed could be very interesting.
Brother Lefty Agreed! Part 2 with dot and more data coming soon!! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Brother!!! Due to Covid, I needed some way to hit balls in my garage without noise or breaking anything. This video fully answered my question. Thank you!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching
Did you end up doing a mevo+ setup with almost golf balls?
@@WithaKayOK No.......I was on a long wait list and gave up.
I have a dozen of these balls when they were called the “sweet 60s”. I believe at the time the company was called Point Five. They are really fun to play on executive courses, or par 3 courses. Would love to see a really good 4000 yard course designed to accommodate these.
Great video. Love the honest/real time reaction!
I appreciate you watching!
Well done... you answered a lot of my questions. Ordered those today.... to celebrate Maine winters, :-)
These are great for the right situations. WIll look to see if you did these balls with Skytrak
Great to see how your channel is growing!! All that hard work is paying off. That was a fun one! Can see it for short game practice, but really that’s kind of it
Yes it really is cool and should only get better as we cover more hardware etc. I agree this was a viewer request, fun but not super practical. Thanks for watching!!
Just has a thought.. It seems like they might could add an algorithm for an almost golf ball mode.
assuming these units are patchable
It maybe possible I will see if I can talk to the developers about it. Thanks for watching!
For us lesser techies, I suppose I need to start paying attention to my SC300i while I practice with my Almost Golf balls on the back porch. Have only been watching the clubhead speed.
What I really like about the Almost balls is that I have not broken any glass when they bounce off the net. Lot of expensive double pane on my back porch.
I bet you could play with the altitude adjustment to get close to full yardages.
Thanks so much for the great analysis of the MEVO+ with Almost Golf Ball. My indoor setup is based on Almost Golf Balls and had given up on the chance to use a launch monitor or simulator. Does SkyTrak also work with Almost?
I have not tested skytrak with AG balls. I think any unit that properly reads the ball will have major variances due to it not having the same compression, spin, or flight.
Well looks like I just bought some almost golf balls! Did u do part 2 with the dots?
Even though the Mevo+ can read the ball, I still agree with your original assessment of "Why"? The numbers are useless...Also, the sound (or lack there of) when you hit the first shot almost made me stop the video. I couldn't stand hitting that ball...That said, I was intrigued by your comment of your indoor chipping area...you should do a short video showing that off. Sounds nice.
Drew Lance Yeah you have to take it for what it is for sure. I think I’m going to do a full part two video using a metallic dot this time 👍. Thanks for watching!
How high is your ceiling above the screen? Have you done a video of your room setup discussing room size, ceiling height, screen size, & projector?
I sure have :). This should answer all of your questions, Rob. th-cam.com/video/bRItjGbngqY/w-d-xo.html thanks for watching
I use them with optishot as I don’t want to using real balls in my garden room simulator and they are great as it’s a club tracker,.but I want to upgrade to mevo plus or skytrak but can only use almost balls so it would be great if you could do a side by side test with real balls to compare .
Kind of impossible to do side by side? I explain the distance differences. Very close under 80 yard then starts going down. We were thinking part 2 video using the metallic dot. Thanks for watching
I bought these a few years ago for recreation ground practice, uber good. Then I bought some to hit into a net in lockdown and also useful. On my SC300 they are useful to hit just try and smash drivers and see BS results. I think its all relative.
Thanks for watching
Okay even though Im one who asked.. If im being honest i didnt expect it to be as close as it was.
When using radar like Swing caddy these seems to read as about 60% of a real ball.
However when using sci core balls , they were reading nearly 85 percent the normal distance.
With all that being said, I cant help but wonder if sci core ball would read nearly a real balls distance.
Im ordering a mevo+ , it might be awhile but i will test out sci core balls.
I was surprised! Thanks for watching
How is the feel?
Since you said user requested, how about the ES Tour Plus? Curious how they improved it over the ES 16. Curious how it matches up to other simulators.
I actually was just talking to ES Sports about that unit. Seems like the one most people are asking to see. I am working getting one. Thanks for watching and asking!
How is the feel
Another great video. Do you think they would perform similar on a skytrak?
Thanks for watching! I plan to have SkyTrak ASAP and will test for you 👍
Awesome! Looking forward to it
So temped to get a mevo plus or sky track which would you say is better? Glad you did this test as I would be using these and good to know accurate results. 👍
I never pick devices or software over another. When I created the channel I set a goal to have the best content and enough of it so people could make the best decision based on what they see. Since the SkyTrak unit I originally planned on having got stopped from arriving due to Corona I apologize I do not have a unit on hand to do direct comparisons. I still plan on having one as soon as possible and doing a direct comparison. I can tell you some facts. Flightscope is great for indoor and outdoor, it really can shine outdoor as radar. Now Flightscope takes some more space vs Skytrak can fit in a little smaller space which can be nice. Skytrak has a few second delay after the shot is hit, Mevo+ is almost instant. Flightscope comes with software and no annual fee, Skytrak has annual fees. There are few differences. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
Could you tell me what size screen you are working with on this video? Thanks.
It is 12x8 which is a 16:10 ratio
Could you boost driver to get the correct distances
Hi Jay can you try playing a few holes by aiming on screen, rather than moving on your laptop. Thanks
Sure. It works well just feels different. What’s the real goal so I know. Why wouldn’t your aim with the computer?
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I think because that's how you would play golf. You need to aim your feet and play to the pin. I think it would make for a good video.
@@homegolfaustralia1078 Sounds good. Thanks for the comment and suggestion! I appreciate you watching.
Waiting the whole video for you to mention what your normal club distances are, I think maybe vaguely heard it once. I golf ball comparison without the actual comparison? Ouch!
Would you try it with a Birdie Ball?
Is your sim a regular indoor or short indoor configuration? We purchased a Mevo+ and have not been able to get any kind of reading with foam golf balls. It would be good to have foam as an option. The only difference I can see in this video compared to our setup would be short vs regular indoor configuration. Unless I'm missing something else. Thanks.
Short indoor. This was only to test. It's not intended for foam balls.
Interesting but wouldn’t it be true that the simulator is just applying the algorithm that it has inbuilt which is configured for normal balls? So, the distance figures you are getting are just a calculation - it doesn’t mean the almostball actually traversed that distance. One of the first comments was by someone who uses the almostball and actually gets 1/2 the normal distance with a wedge (say, 50 yards) but only 1/3 of the normal distance with a 3-wood (say, about 65-70 yards).
The device is reading the actual ball speed and spin of the ball. The foam is not going to react the same way as a normal golf ball. So it really doesn't have to do with any calculation because it doesn't know it's foam.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I don’t think that what you wrote is correct. The device is doing exactly what I wrote - it is measuring some parameters of the foam ball in the first 8 feet after it is struck (that’s in the me o information) and then applying the algorithm under the assumption that it is a real golf ball. That’s what all those devices do, if you think they don’t then that’s fine but I suggest you hit the almostball outside, on a real golf hole, with your 7-iron and see how far it goes; it won’t go anywhere near the distance reported by the mevo machine. Even with real golf balls these machines just estimate a distance based on what is measured in the first 8 feet. They do not measure real distance.
@@stuartbaker3897 I'm pretty sure you were just misunderstanding what I am saying. The facts are the foam ball is not going to react on the club the same way a real ball does. So the spin numbers and speeds are not going to be the same. Does it apply an algorithm after reading 8 feet yes it does but it's going to be using that data that is going to be much different from a real golf ball.
Can you please state if the Almost golf ball can be used with the Skytrak and is it comparable to the Mevo plus as seen in the beautiful video you made?
It really can’t be used with any LM. They are reading the ball speed, spin, etc and the almost balls are intentionally short flight so other than some shipping data will be off. Thanks for watching
I have had the SkyTrak for 3 years now and have a garage net setup. Most of my practice is with the AG balls, and here is what I’ve seen -
For shot shaping practice it is extremely accurate for showing your swing path and club face angle.
Distance is inconsistent and ranges from 75-90% of a proV due to the lower ball speed.
Generally I’ve found that the spin is much lower and launches higher than the ProV.
In short, very good to practice ball striking and shot shaping but no good for simulation.
I can't get any reading at all from the foam balls... I don't have the almost golf ball brand, but the Callaway hx. If I hit with real ball no problem, with foam, nada. Is there a setting I'm missing??
I did not do anything particular it just worked.
It would be interesting to see you hit a real golf ball and then hit a almost golf ball right after. I'm curious what the data would be for each.
Abdul The short shots are close. I will see what I can do. Thanks for watching
There are different foam balls with varying degrees of compressibility on the market. Do the Almost Golf Balls have a hard shell on them, or are they 100% foam?
Not positive of the material but it’s soft like foam.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos How much can you compress the AGB between your thumb and index finger? I am asking because I am trying to compare these balls to the 9-gram dimpled PU foam balls I currently have. I think the AGB weighs about 13.5 grams.
@@pequodexpress I mean you can squish them down a decent amount. I’m not around one now to measure, sorry.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I wonder if they are just weighted PU foam balls. My 9-gram PU foam balls can be compressed about 0.75 cm (total = 1.5 cm to 2 cm) from each of two adjacent sides (top-bottom).
@@pequodexpress not sure but they have a great reputation for being a good indoor or short range practice ball. I enjoy chipping with them indoor.
The ball would be great on par 3 course and less damage on your screen than a real ball
I was very surprised how well it read them. Clearly a little short but the flight was close. Fun review and people were begging for it so had to :) Thanks for watching!
Great video, I’m thinking I’ll be using foam ball for the most in my basement
Thanks. I mean I think we all know since the unit is actually reading the ball as you get up in speed it’s going to be manipulated but it still tracks it fine and actually the slower balls were pretty darn on
The question is "why" would you want to use Almost Golf Balls with Mevo+? I'm not understanding the value add?
As I said right away, this was a user requested video. I will not be using them other than for demonstration in a video like this. It was very interesting though. From what the viewers requesting the video a few lived in apartments and wanted to at least hit something without noise and others have limited space and thing it would suffice when they cant get outdoors etc. The CHS should be correct and you can tell if it was straight, right, or left etc. so some feedback for sure. I hear what you are saying though that is why I questioned even doing it the past few weeks as some were begging :) Thanks for watching!
It's not a value add, it's an answer to a limited setup problem. I am looking at setting up a simulator in my conservatory but there isn't really enough space for a full net or screen to stop a real golf ball. So I would have to use these balls or foam balls so wondered if it was worth spending the money on a Skytrak or Mevo+ for my limited setup. I've read that you can add boosts to certain clubs. Somebody suggested something like 5% to wedges, 10% for mid irons, 15% for long irons, 20% for woods and 30% for drivers. Looking at the data in the video suggests this would give pretty accurate real life yardages.
Great video, thanks!
Because there is always a chance a stray ball will f something up in your house, or worse f someone else’s property up outside
Interesting. I didn’t think it would project correct distance because of the difference in mass or weight.
Glenn Wisse Agreed. Flight was nice and distance not that far off! Especially the short shots!!! Wild! Thanks for watching!
Compression will probably be the cause of the distance difference. Less compression on shorter clubs will create less distance gap. Driver will compress the almost golf ball into deformation and cause energy (ball speed) loss. Same concept when a person with high club head speed hits a low compression ball like a Wilson duo vs a prov1x. Wedge will retain the speed but driver will have higher ball speed with prov1x.
@@jmac13131 Well they specifically say 1/3 of the flight for outdoor use this seemed high of course. Wild the Mevo+ read it that well, with no dot! Now I am thinking I have to do a part 2 video with a dot?
Golf Simulator Videos I agree. A dot would be interesting to see the difference.
@@GolfSimulatorVideos I used Almost Golf balls a lot in my backyard. The distances don't scale to 1/3 across the club set. For instance a PW will go more than 1/2 the distance of a real golf ball, but a 3W goes less than 1/3 the distance.